Remember when Your Wonkette went to Tampa and Charlotte and then lots and tons of other cities, to feed beer to you, our beloved Wonkados? No, we don’t either. But we are told we made friends with a bunch of dudes from Boston whilst there, and they told us FLAT OUT that Scott Brown was gonna cream Elizabeth Warren in the Massachusetts Senate race. Everybody likes him too much, they explained, but we have not asked them to splain since all those polls came out showing Warren finally ahead how they could be so stupid. Eh, happens to everyone! Like today, we put up a Fox & Friends post that was over two years old! Here, have some liveblog, we shall begin! If you don’t have Cspan THREE, you can watch it here.
7:02 PM — And in his very first answer, Scott Brown comes out and calls Elizabeth Warren an Affirmative Action Pocahontas who lies about her very skin color! We think Massachusetts voters might not like the Dickish side of Sears?
7:04 PM — Whoops. “I was gonna start out by saying Scott Brown is a nice guy.” Her dad’s family not wanting him to marry her mom because of her mixed-breed heritage seems like a good enough reason to think you are Native American. Brown returns with “personnel records,” even though Harvard has already vowed she didn’t claim minority status. This is an uggggllly debate from Question One, and Warren is being soft-spoken and gracious.
7:12 PM — Scott Brown explains that joblessness comes from “regulatory uncertainty.” This is hilarious, because Elizabeth Warren actually knows stuff about things. And the made-up-ness of that rightwing talking point is almost unanswerable. But not when Warren is there to break it down for you. Remember Bill Clinton in Charlotte? Yeah, Elizabeth Warren would like to Explain some stuff at you!
7:16 PM — Brownie cites the extreme rightwing US Chamber of Commerce as Warren being a job killer. He calls them “independent.” Warren is going to reeeeallly need to focus on not making “IDIOT!!!!” faces at every idiot thing Brown says.
7:21 PM — Yes Warren is saying awesome things, but can we note that with that weird Plexiglas podium, it looks like she is saying them from her Invisble Wonder Woman Plane?
7:22 PM — Warren talks about subsidizing the oil companies making $137 billion in profits each year. He rebuts that it’s reaallly expensive to gas up his truck. DRINK!
Every time Scott Brown acts like a dick to Elizabeth, how about one dollar here? secure.actblue.com/page/ussenate/
— Howie Klein (@downwithtyranny) September 20, 2012
7:32 PM — Why does Elizabeth Warren keep bringing up Scott Brown’s votes? Doesn’t she know that is not allowed?
7:33 PM — Brown: My dad or stepdad or someone was a piece of shit who beat up my mom so I have been fighting for women since I was six, except for Equal Pay for Equal Work, also Catholics! Stop pittin’ ‘em! Oh, what, somebody is actually explaining how the birth control mandate was NOT a war on religion? SHUT YOUR MOUTH HUSSY.
7:35 PM — Brown loves women! And hates the Globe! But equal pay is for trial lawyers, and some nonsense about the Blunt Amendment. Oooh, and Warren lowers the “I knew Senator Kennedy” BOOM.
7:42 PM — Is it just us, or does Brown sound like a condescending prick even when he’s praising Hillary Clinton? We are fairly sure he said something nice, but it came out like he was slapping her ass and calling her a great gal.
7:46 PM — Scott Brown goes in for the kill: OH YEAH? Well ELIZABETH WARREN IS RICH!!!
7:47 PM — Sure you wanted to leave that hanging right over the plate, Scott? Are you suuuuuure? Oh right, here is Elizabeth Warren to explain that citizens invested in her education, not loopholes for the big guys, with those big warm eyes of hers. Scott Brown: BLAH BLAH ANGER! PIGGY BANK! FLOOD INSURANCE! BLAH.
7:51 PM — Scott Brown says Elizabeth Warren poisons people with asbestos. True? Don’t know! We will get back to you on that, once Twitter makes its ruling!
7:52 PM — Scott Brown cites the eternal sadness that is no new nuclear facilities, the same day Three Mile Island shuts down. (For real!)
7:54 PM — And finally, Elizabeth Warren pulls the James Inhofe is a fucking moron card. However did it take so long?
8:05 PM — So here is the Globe article Warren cited to refute Brown’s assertion that she danced on the grave of asbestos victims. It’s … long! But it basically says no, Elizabeth Warren helped people with asbestos, even though she was working for the insurance company. Stupid Globe commies.
And … that’s it! Did it feel incredibly weird and short to anyone else? Like, there was so much pent up SHIT the two were trying to say, they sounded like cattle auctioneers. LUCKILY THERE WILL BE THREE MORE.
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Thanks for the 7PM reminder, the Yankee game is about to start.
So what happened to the other three parts? Or are those being folded into the Mormon/Mexican Massacree at Alice's Restaurant?
Oh God, Scottie's smile is smug.
Even his hair is smug.
Why do all these republicans look like smarmy dicksuckers?
Is that a rhetorical question?
Well … yeah.
Oh, wait. Was THAT a r …
Fuck.
MUAHAHAHAHA!
Reince Priebus responds:
"Slrpfl-glrpflglrp-blrglflrp!"
Elizabeth!
Let's get ready to RUMBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE
Obey your monitor!
"I want to thank Elizabeth Warren for coming out"
Scottie just got the hopes of a bunch of lesbians way up…
Yes,character is important…
WTF?
That's a good summary of the whole debate.
I was hoping I wouldn't have to watch this shitstorm alone….Thank you, Editrix!
Mumbling like Clint Eastwood! Jeebus!
Scott !!!!
You fucking asshole!
FFS, no one gives a fuck about this Native American crap. This is as boring as the flap about Obama's college transcripts…
Wrong! This is a HUGE deal!!!!
If she really is a native American then she is an illegal immigrant in violation of US federal and state labor employment laws who is taking jobs away from REAL Americans.
"Senator Brown is a nice guy"
For once, I *like* that "nice guys finish last" quote…
Senator Brown: "Warren is a liar. "
Elizabeth Warren: "Senator Brown is a nice guy."
I see what you did there!!
She must have meant Sherrod.
And Brutus is an honorable man.
Quite.
Well, Olive Oyl thought so, but entre nous, I never thought she was all that bright…
Motherfucker.
Hey, Happy Trails, this is gonna go over well.
Scotty threw the first sucker punch. What a douchenozzle.
NICE comeback about the native American flap, Elizabeth! Suck it, Scottie!
The guy is F'n' desperate. Stoopid
Not releasing personnel records. Is that bad? Like not releasing tax returns?
Personnel records? FFS, what's next, will the wingnuts start asking for dental records next?
What are we live blogging? Besides the Yankee game? I had eye surgery yesterday. Am I allowed to talk about how I still have a headache? Pretty please?
My brother said when they took off my cataract I would "see the light" and start voting Teapublican. BUT I STILL HATE MITT. So obviously I am recovering. And no, I am not an old — even the young and hawt can have cataracts.
Oh, it's a debate! I'm starting to wake up. I can't listen to Scott Brown without more drugs.
Do you have an eye patch? Because 'talk like a pirate day' was yesterday.
AAAArrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh.
My daughter's boyfriend is a "pirate."
I'll bet he said Yaaaaarrrrrrrgh all day.
Unless "talk like a pirate day" is just for poseurs and sell-outs.
He's the real thing, (whatever that means).
I hope you have a speedy recovery.
I'm an old. I am more of a dogaract kind person.
You bark like you blink?
Oh, baby! (Hugs you) Wish I were there. I'd bring you tea and prop your feet up for you and rub your head. You didn't TELL me you were going to get your eye sliced up, geeze.
Thanks for your good wishes.I could have used a head rub yesterday. The corrective surgery was successful but my cornea was scraped in the process.SUPERPAIN!It heals quickly, though.I can see the monitor just fine today.
My toes curled up just reading that. Rest plenty, I'll be hovering in spirit all weekend. (Oy. Just like having your bubbe over.)
Ooh- will you make rugelach, too?
Thanks for the concern.It still hurts to put the drops in, but other than that, I'm fine.I'm wearing sunglasses in the house, so I look like a hipster.The constant stream of news about the Republicans' meltdown is all the medicine I need.
Ooh, scratched cornea. Dang, that's agonizing. Fortunately, as you say, it heals quickly. But that was the only time I ever woke up screaming. Scared the hell out of my family.
Seriously, yes!I was in a fetal position and I don't know if the Niagara Falls pouring out of my eyes was from sobbing or an involuntary body reflex.I don't wish that on a tea bagger.
I was thinking heroin … mainlined.My old ma actually offered me the Oxycontin left over from her hip replacement.We're such trailer trash here in Arizona.
I'm sure you'll do what's right. Feel better.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRVkS6Owp9Q
my folks got cataract surgery a couple years ago and now both of those assholes see way better than me.
hope it all works out jukes!
Thanks.It was weird to be the young one in the doctor's waiting room!But weird in a good way.BTW, my brother was kidding.He has a bumper sticker on his car that says, “I'm a tax and spend liberal and I vote.”
Get better soon. <3
Thanks.I'm fine today.
Jeese, so did I – like Monday and Wed for the other eye. But it feels better than it has for months.
If you had the surgery, why am I seeing double?
I just gave up on commenting, the whole thing seems a little screwed up.“I see everything twice” is one of my favorite episodes in Catch-22. As I have mentioned before the Army decided I could fly helicopters but my eyes were starting to cross after being straightened while I was a kid. “No problem, we’ll straighten them for you, lay down on this table.” So the doctor performs the surgery which required being blindfolded for five days in the 60’s and the blindfolds get taken off and “I see everything twice.” The doctor had STRAIGHTENED my eyes when they needed a slight paralex. So after a week of walking around and see a lot of identical twinse, falling out of things and walking into poles they took me in and redid the surgery. (Driving a motorcycle is more than a little difficult when you have to look down and try to decide which speedometer to look at.) I hated that doctor for decades because eventually it was determined that I would never have full depth perception. I only learned a few years ago that after he left the Army he went to South East Asia and spent the rest of his life performing ocular and facial surgery on people we had bombed. I understand he stayed in Saigon after the fall and was not located again. The internet has everything on it.
Seeing the rest of you post, I have to confess that mine was to releave the pressure between the fron and back of the lens which was causing it to collapse. Ms. Curley's cataract surgery went very well but get to the doctor if it looks the slightest cloudy. My eye doctor said 40% of those who receive an artificial lens develop a cloudy membrane behind it and thing nothing can be done. It can because now, if you have an artificial lens in place, the membrane can be removed by a laser procedure.
They have my other eye scheduled for next month.I thought it was the good one, but now that the right one is cleared up, I can tell that I can't see properly through the left one either.Glad your operation was a success.
It’s good you are getting it cleared up with the procedure. I keep meeting people who didn’t realize how much cataracts had diminished their vision. Today I follow up on the procedures to relieve the pressure in the eyes with an exam which will look at the cataract I have to determine if and when it needs attention.Did your doctor give you a set of those giant space man sun glasses that fit over regular glasses?
Yes, I got the spaceman glasses.They are surprisingly comfortable.I already had yellow-tinted prescription specs that have proved to be very handy for indoor wear.I don't have to close all the blinds in my AZ house and annoy the rest of the family.
I'm glad you didn't say Mandarin.
"No monopoly on good ideas"…but the GOP has a monopoly on bad ideas.
Way to give a laser like focus on jobs and the economy, Scottie…
Will Brown do a reverse of Mitt's tandering, and appear as pale as an Irish-American in Belchertown?
This is, what, a one hour debate, and we've spent over 10% of the time on this crap? FFS…
Personnel records my ass. Fuck you Scott Brown.
Brown is a Sarah Palin one note talking point idjet. He is a really sucky debater.
Scott Brown appears to have a staple left in his brain from that centerfold spread.
Hah! I like it.
There is nothing in his brain but one rusty staple.
And a wistful remembrance of those pink hot pants…
Including brain.
Mental shortcomings are a staple of the Republican Party
ID seems to be very wonky tonight, sorry, catch up with you another time!
Too bad the staple didn't go through his shortcomings…..tee-hee!
Oh yeah–and about those small businesses:
According to a new study conducted by The George Washington University’s Graduate School of Political Management, 39% of more than 6,000 small-business owners surveyed said President Obama is “more supportive of small business” versus the 31% who believed that of Republican Presidential candidate Mitt Romney.
http://www3.cfo.com/article/2012/9/growth-compani…
So much for the "we built it" group…..
Are there any other commonwealths than Mass. and Va. or are the rest just states?
Pennsylvania. But I've always liked "State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations."
Kentucky is one, too. And Pennsyltucky as Lucid mentioned.
Didn't they try and change that a year or so ago. I can't recall whether they were successful in ridding themselves of the Providence Plantations part.
Per Wikipedia –
Thank you. Appreciate you looking that up for me. (I is the lazy).
Commonwealths ought to be socialist.
I don't have a television, so I'm just going to have to make do with a copy of Playgirl and a volume of John Maynard Keynes.
Why is he talkin' like James Cagney? I have never heard Brown lay on the pahk yer cah accent like this before, what a phoney.
I'm yoose guys.
I was waitin' for the grapefruit in the eye thingy
Yeah, Congress held a vote just so Elizabeth Brown could have a talking point. It had nothing to do with actually wanting to reduce the deficit or any crap like that…
Asshole.
This is really dull.
Hard for either one of them to compete with the amusement we've all derived from Mittens' flubs…
"The only part of the President's jobs plan that passed was mine"
Christ, credit-grabber much?
Oh yeah, go for those teachers, firefighters, police, and construction workers!
She's being gracious? This is Massachusetts, Liz! Joe Kennedy didn't get to be a rich bootlegger being nice.
Liz scored a body shot.
Okay I'm feeling better. He's irritating, and she's not. It's all good.
OOH Snap!! She just called him a Republican!!
A "Republican centerfold" would have been better.
Dayum! The gloves are OFF!
I don't think you want to play the "regulatory certainty" card, Scotty.
I would watch Mittens (the cat) debate Liberty (the dog) if Wonkette was live blogging it.
Say, is this the real <i/> Commie Mommie?
Genius vs. Microrganism
Oh, and about that National Federation of Independent Businesses?
Citing the National Federation of Independent Business, she added, “A few years ago, the N.F.I.B. contributed 95% of its PAC money to Republican candidates.” Another offered: “The N.F.I.B. on any piece of legislation will be slanted towards the leanings [of] the paying membership and, thus, not representative the feelings of all small businessmen.”
http://boss.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/26/whom-doe…
Asshole.
He'd better be careful here. His contempt is showing.
The only hope that he has is misrepresenting his record.
And Liz is doing a good job of calling him out on it.
Explain it to me, 'Lizbeth!!
"I will not vote to increase taxes on working families–ever"
Oh yeah! Kiss my ass, Scottie!
"Our job creators"—a phrase that's past its Sell By date.
What is he reading? He keeps looking down and his lips are moving. So annoying!
What happened to that shoulder-cheater-machine the GOP invented for W.?
"The so – called wealthy"–really? The top 2% is "so – called wealthy"? That's the best Scottie can do?
The Lorax is doing a great job as moderator.
She just made him look like a lackey of the 1%.
Brown wants to keep cutting the taxes for the upper 2%. Be moar successful Scott iffin' you just cut the cheese.
Weej! Where'dju find the cute li'l piglet?
It was hiding in my triple-ought.
Scott Brown sneezed cos he's allergic to being Warren-smacked.
Boston.com just described this way: "7:15 p.m. – In 2010, Brown was the hunter against Martha Coakley. Now, he is the hunted by Elizabeth Warren."
Am I the only one who thinks this moderator is utterly uninspired?
What moderator?
No.
Mod doesn't understand that fiscal cliff is what they've been talking about.
Liz. Throw in a 'wang' joke and you'll knock him off his stride. Then walk over and kick him in the nuts.
Just a thought.
I was thinking she should cut off his balls and throw them in the audience.
Glad you're feeling better.
There is no eye surgery in the world that would make me want to see that.
(Too soon?)
Put that on pay per view and I am buying.
nice thought!
1/3 done and I'd say she's slightly ahead on points and personality. Also, he doesn't sound so bright.
Taxmageddon, Mr Brown?
Keep ya hands off my Geddon!!
Whoever started the word-combining neologism trend, please feed his eyeballs to worms.
Brangelina?
TomKat?
Desilu?
&, like Fidel, Ricky was Cuban. Like Chris Brown, he roughed up his partner. Like Sonny Bono, his partner was the brain of the business.
Three strikes!
Craisins?
Lewis Carroll with snark(shark and snake!!
Eyeball soup to all of them.
Can't wait for the part when Tip O'Neill shows up and beats Brown over the head with Chris Matthews in a sack.
God, he just keeps repeating the same tired talking point, doesn't he? I guess that's what you do when you've got nothing…
Ahem, 'Mitt Romney'.
Rebuttal, Mr Brown?
We should not be subsidizing Big Oil–tell 'em. Elizabeth!
S.B. :We shoulda, we shoulda…..we shoulda….
Who's Cliff?
He's what the republicans will take us over should they win in November.
It's Boston, so it's gotta be Claven.
Oh noes, Brownie rolls out the "Professor" title to beloved Elizabeth.
/ All Teaparties wet themselves and run shrieking from the room
Elitism!!!!
Why isn't this being held in a bar?
"They can check a box"
Yeah, and how many people are going to be inspired to do so while politicians like Scottie allow unfair tax subsidies and breaks for industries like the oil companies?
Asshole.
The fucking truck.
The truck!
Senator check a box. Kiss my box, Scottie.
I'm for the motorist!
Cost me $70.00 to fill up my 12 ton shit-can, AMIRIGHT?
Oh god he's a friend of the motorist, talking about how much it costs to fill up his truck. She's right back at him for supporting tax breaks for big oil.
Excellent riposte on her part. Remind me to never cross epees with Ms. Warren.
"And he protects every one of those loopholes…"
Go Elizabeth!
Hey Scott, it's not a 3 1/2 year Recession. The recession started 4 years ago under your guy.
Longer still. December 2007. Ended what… Q1 2010 officially? Can't remember, but definitely over by mid-2010.
Numbers are elitist.
"That's not where taxpayer money should go…"
She's starting to warm up…that's it, Elizabeth, get some passion going along with the smarts FTW!
On EW's twitter feed – @elizabethforma – she is correcting his errors as the debate rolls….she really is a professor!
For the grand finale she can make him clean the blackboard.
I think she's doing good. Y'all?
She's a scrapper she is.
I think she looks at little shocked at his bald faced lies, but is regathering well.
Turning those beautiful, earnest blue eyes on the audience, she proceeded to slit his throat from ear to ear, with words.
Si. Brownie's 'Professor' taunts are starting to get silly.
Pretty sad when you have to pander to the tea baggers in Massachusetts.
I think she got better and better as the evening progressed,
She's poised and keeps going at him, in a very nice way. That will count here.
Spending's a "big problem," but Pretty Boy says nothing about oil subsidies…
Scott Brown explains that joblessness comes from “regulatory uncertainty.”
Or on planet earth, from the willingness of international capital to squeeze every bit of value from workers before discarding them.
Medicare fraud? Yeah, let's discuss that–let's discuss how the cuts that you fuckers have made in the budget mean there are entire states that have NO auditors looking over Medicare billing records, which makes fraud easy to commit…
Asshole.
All i can say is she must have super powers to keep from rolling her eyes every time this doofus talks.
The smarm, it smarts.
Trucks vs. Energy policy. Which is more important to the US Senate?
Close call…
He said he doesn't want to spend any money!
Cutting subsidies to hugely-profitable oil companies will have less of an impact on the price of gasoline than it already fluctuates on a daily basis for no apparent reason.
A break, thank God…and I hope the questions in the second part are more interesting than this has been…
Scotty looks like a kid who was counting on a snow day (senate business), didn't study for the test and woke up to bluebird skies…
she's brought a tray of cookies to a knife fight.
needs to stop saying "commonwealth"
her fake smile no where near as practiced as
mr. trucknuts
Look everyone–a new troll!
1. Those cookies include an ingredient to which Scott Brown is allergic–the truth.
2. Massachusetts is a commonwealth.
3. Her unpracticed smile is clearly genuine, whereas Scotty's drips with smarminess and contempt.
I don't like wonkado. Can we please be known as wonkasexuals? Or does that sound too much like a pervy candy maker?
It makes me think of the noise a clown nose makes during certain facial activities.
"All Wonkette and no play, makes a wonk an asexual boy….
FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Christ, the Supreme Court…how could I forget about yet another reason to keep the Senate in Democratic hands…
this is the thing – no matter how mad i get at dems/barry – that keeps me awake at night thinking of republicans wins.
"Regulatory uncertainty" is such a canard. GM and Ford have factories in Brazil where the only regulatory certainty is that it will take forever to get the right government employee to stamp the right document. They know that and they manage accordingly.
Scott Brown knows as much about business formation as a duck does about Sanskrit.
Not to mention, one party asserting that they'll do the exact opposite of the other party, whatever that might mean, just because, and also that if they're ever in power, they'll repeal what the other party did, again just because, is probably the single best way to increase uncertainty.
It's the same shitty game the rich and their ass lickers always play. If we don't keep their taxes low, allow them to pollute the shit out of our environment and do whatever they want with workers, then they'll take their factories or capital elsewhere. Unfortunately, in the age of Citizen's United, we'll never get a politician who'll call them on their bluff and tell them to fuck off.
He voted against Kagan? Fuck this guy (with votes!)
Warren just threw a nice gut punch on the judge question.
Brown is pro-choice like Romney was.
Fighting for women. On his back.
What a smarmy prick.
Sorry, Scotty, you just lost the women's vote. Peeps?
You know, there is some pretty good data showing that people from abusive families often act out the same abuse, although maybe in a different way. Sounds to me like Scottie boy learnt sumpin' from that abusive whatever.
Sure looks like it. His body language says he doesn't like women much, or not assertive women like Warren, anyway.
Keep talking about how HE ACTUALLY VOTED.
Dem pesky details.
So, which girl is gonna win this Bitch-Slap-A-Looza? My vote goes to the short one; she's kinda sexy in a "Hot Teacher" sort of way.
I read the alt-text and thought "Oh, I'll be there"
"You should stop scaring women, Elizabeth Warren"
What the Fuck?
He was trying to shoot death-rays out his eyes.
"You should stop scaring women"
OH NO HE DIDN'T just say that women are such delicate flowers that we will cringe in terror whenever a candidate goes after another candidate on women's rights!
Fucking sexist pig…
"I don't want to pit women between their church and the state. I want to pit women against their insurance company."
Dang, she beat me to it.
Don't interrupt her, you motherfucking pig!
Oh, he's done it now–I am *definitely* sending a few bucks here:
https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/elizab…
Camera got a good Brownie facial twitch on Warren's last answer. Twitchy, twitch, twitch.
Trying to hide behind Teddy Kennedy for his Blunt amendment vote? Balls!
He looked like such a prick right there when he got caught out on Lilly Ledbetter.
She started out a little stiff, but she is warming up now…and shout out to Senator Kennedy! Oh yeah!
Liz is schooling the schmuck with just the facts, mam.
Catholics pitted against their faith? Don't something like 90% of Catholics use birth control?
Fucker.
(God, this debate is making me hate this asshole more and more…)
Someone's getting schooled, and it aint the slightly naughty schoolteacher.
We don't need laws on equal pay because we already have them? Well okay then.
Well yeah, and now they work better because of the Lilly Ledbetter Act. It's not like there wasn't a poster-child for why the old laws weren't good enough.
Sen. Brown (R-Chamber of Commerce)
That makes him a chamber pot?
And he meets with Kings and Queens.
Is this rambling on the use of force supposed to be an answer? Scottie isn't even trying…
Brown doesn't need an empty chair for a prop, he needs an empty bucket for his vomit.
"We've got to have a whole plan"
Unlike what we had when we went barreling into Iraq…no thank you, W…
Nasty crack from Scottie, calling Elena Kagan "your boss," when talking to Warren.
He sounds dumb on foreign affairs.
Stupid is as stupid sounds.
"Please convey my thoughts to me." Great error.
Oh great, warmongering on Iran. Thanks for doing your part to keep gas prices up, asshole…
Scottie is such a pawn of the neo-cons.
OH YEAH–Obama as CinC, not Mittens…go Elizabeth!
Poor Scotty. Spanked by Reid on the floor and used to mop the floor by Warren.
She's heading for her wind-up, tying Scottie to Mitt Romney.
That's gotta be his biggest fear.
Yeah, maybe Obama would be more inclined to visit the PM of Israel if he had not made it crystal clear that he wants Mittens to win, asshole…
As well as Netanyahu saying not meeting with Obama before the election is no big deal.
As well as Netanyahu avoiding meeting President Obama multiple times.
Oh, Scotty quit bragging about how important you are, how you're telling POTUS what to do.
NO NUANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh FFS, is this really a question? Some people who went to college get jobs that don't require a degree…so they should not go to college at all? So much for those aspiring actors, writers, artists, musicians…
This moderator sucks.
Instead of investing in Big Oil, invest in education…nice!
The Dick-O-Meter just exploded.
That criticism of her Harvard salary was REALLY dickish.
I did not think this was possible, but I think I might hate Scott Brown even more than Mittens…the topic is education, asshole, not small businesses and taxes…
(ETA–and no, oil companies are *not* small businesses, idiot…)
education, asshole, not small businesses and taxes…
Until you privatize the school system
GOOD reminder of the student loan interest rate issue, Elizabeth!
It's ok to be financially successful for Scottie, just not by contributing to a major research university's bottom line.
He's going after her professor's salary? Go after the millions he made as an attorney after law school!
Lowering student loan interest rates = putting money in a piggy bank?
Christ, there is not enough alcohol in the world to soothe this rage…
PLEASE, Massachusetts, PLEASE get rid of this asshole!
I love how he keeps saying that Elizabeth is misrepresenting his votes, when his best argument against her is based on speculative "studies" by business groups…
Asshole.
Brown criticizing someone because they once worked for a corporation? WTF?
BTW, Elizabeth, *please* visit Foxboro Stadium and wherever the Red Sox play several times this fall…
And associate herself with losers?
Just kiddin'. Sox 2013!
Wait 'til next year.
I heart you all too much to say anything.
(Besides, I'm trying to watch a game here.)
Why isn't she fighting back about asbestos.
She probably did do a consultation with them. Doesn't mean she could control what they did with the study she provided. But he sounds really jealous of her money, doesn't he? Since when are Teapublicans against people making money?
thx. He's jealous of her mind. And money.
She worked for Traveler's but it was a long and complicated case that the Supremes eventually overturned: http://articles.boston.com/2012-05-01/metro/31499…
Warren campaign spokeswoman Alethea Harney told the Free Beacon, “Elizabeth served as a consultant for Travelers because she wanted to ensure that all victims got a fair shake and had an equal chance for compensation. That’s why she supported all insurance proceeds being put in a trust rather than fighting lawsuit-by-lawsuit until the money ran out.”
Because it would take too long to explain to an idiot like Brown that working for a company on one issue is not the same thing as supporting what they do years after you are no longer working for them that subverts your prior efforts. Plus, the Globe already debunked it in detail, so just referring people to its coverage (as she did) is easier.
As a small bidness owner it is quite clear that Brownie ain't got my back.
SHUT UP FUCKER, the moderator said she has the final word!
CHRIST I hate this sexist, pompous prick!
Keystone pipeline and jobs? Really? The route is nowhere near Mass!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/nati…
Asshole.
Brownie is one of Inhofe's Keystone Kops.
Tough turf for him here, going after her for supporting clean energy.
Good comeback on the clean energy jobs, and how those are the jobs that are actually in Massachusetts…
So tired of square-jawed white men. Is it just me?
Oh, hell no.
Oh yeah, Inhofe…forgot about that asshole.
And since you would put him into power if you win, it is *too* fair for her to call you out on his extremism, asshole…
Oh huzzah, Liz!! Smack Brownie right-up the head with Jim Inhofe. Great hockey move!
I'm not from Mass., but I think she just did a fabulous job of reminding voters that this really isn't so much about Scotty as it is about the folks he votes with…
Ah, Scott Brown, the gallant protector of the oil companies and the 2%…
Coal doesn't want to kill us?
Maybe it does. But I want to kill these chunks of coal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8Gy-kgL8yA
Well, it's not the capability to act with intent, so no.
But coal is death. Digging it out of the ground kills people. Coal smoke kills 30,000 Americans every year, and ruins the respiratory health of millions. And that's before you even start to consider the land and food wars global warming will bring about, or the storm and flooding deaths, or the starvation from failed crops due to flooding/drought.
Coal is death.
Another smug smile…how can anyone actually like this guy?
"This is about the votes of all the Republicans." = Haymaker.
"This matters—control of the Senate." Yes!
Double yeah!!
I double your double yeah!
"The least partisan senator"
In today's polarized climate, that does not say much…
Especially since we all know that his constituents- most of 'em, anyway- are not looking for a partisan Repug.
Yes please, 100 Elizabeth Warrens in the Senate.
98 Warrens, Al Franken and Kirsten Gillibrand, please.
Make that 97. I love me some Amy Klobuchar.
Ninety-six. Y'all forgot Bernie Sanders.
And how can we can forget the maybe first gay senator Tammy Baldwin?
Bernie Sanders or GTFO!
You're going to love Angus King (I-ME), who will have the ultimate in narcissistic party/state post-name IDs.
96- we want to keep Barbara. Dianne needs to settle down in a nice 12 bedroom cottage on an acre in Atherton and complain about the neighbors.
Difi used to live on Presidio Terrace; a monumental house right on the cliff past the golden gate bridge. I saw it and it was incredible. Used to be owned by Marsha Lucas (George's ex)
I think she lives in Pacific Heights now.
Oh! I'm in! Let my crappy comments commence!
And Scott Brown wins the dabate! (not really, but I wanted to beat Fux News to it)
Nice line re: cuts for the oil companies and the wealthy, tax raises for the middle class…
She's fab. I have to go give money now…
At least she got to wrap it up with a summation.
And a good one, considering how rushed she was.
Oh shit Brownie, when you close a debate by dumping a gunny sack including all the radical libtard nightmares of the Teatarders, you know you lost. And you did!
FINALLY the moderator prevented Scottie from interrupting yet again…
But if they don't get a different moderator for the next one, I'm out…
Off to walk the dogs, but I'll come back and read everyone's comments from the start. Happy snarking, Wonketters!
Browny has a quivering scared little boy voice thing going. It's too fukcing annoying to listen to him. Wawawa. She's so mean. Wawawa, She has brains and I don't. Wawawa.
Then there's this factoid from the twittershpere:
Before EW entered the race, Brown voted w/R’s 81% of the time. After, it dropped to 60%.
I feel a whole lot better. Now I think she has a decent chance of winning. Wish we'd seen this earlier, but now's certainly the time!
Having left CSPAN-3 on post-debate, I am greeted by the charming visage of one Representative David Camp (R-Michigan), Ways and Means Commitee chair. Who just happens to look like that lovely fella from The Hills Have Eyes (1977).
Our own Intense Debate was stalling me some, feel free to add 10 more
SCOTT !!!! YOU FUCK!!!
to the thread.
That happened to me to when I came back to read the comments from the top, but I think it's better now.
Also–
SCOTT !!!! YOU FUCK!!!
It was weak of him to start off attacking her Native American heritage and demanding that she release her personnel files to prove she didn't get an advantage from it. She batted that down expertly, in a comprehensive way I hadn't seen before.
For some reason I can only respond and not post a new comment, how did it go, sounds like she won, yes?
He keeps trying to play the "I'm bipartisan crowd, I'm just like Teddy!" card, and that's not going to work, because Teddy's voters will hate him for it and turn out for her (and his voters, who hate Teddy, will lose their lunch).
She's got him on the control of the Senate, and everyone remembers how health care nearly didn't pass because he won that special election. She's ready to remind everyone.
New staffing? More focused message? Whatever it is, she's got it now.
The special election where the only part of his campaign that wasn't "Hey, I drive a truck" was "I'll be the 41st vote to filibuster healthcare"?
I thought Brown came off as a condescending prick. I can't see too many independents being attracted to his twatishness.
SCOTT BROWN IS KIND OF A DICK
Yes! And not the warm and fuzzy kind!!
He's going after the Provincetown vote?
To hell with the debate, already. Lizzie is hawt! Jesus H Christ on a T Rex! Anybody got her private #, because…….
Someone said on Morning Edition that she should lose the granny glasses.
I'm like, no way man,thats where the HAWT begins.
I'd take her class…yessiree…office hours? Yes, I understood the homework just fine, it's just that…
I has a wonktard crush on Ms. Warren.
thanks wonkette! that was the most painless / quickest summary of asshole vs. academic evah!
I can see Granny and Silvester, but where is Tweety?
Chris Matthews?
I loled.
Honestly, fuck Scott Brown. What a slimeball to open up the debate like that.
Like she wouldn't be prepared! Is he that frickin' dumb? Does he need to be on Social Security for a learning disability? First thing, right off the bat, and she fed it into the garbage disposal like so many eggs shells and coffee grounds.
Like she wouldn’t be prepared! Is he that frickin’ dumb? Does he need to be on Social Security for a learning disability? First thing, right off the bat, and she fed it into the garbage disposal like so many eggs shells and coffee grounds.
c-span THREE.!?
fricking fancy pants Wonkados
xoxo
if i had a pickup truck i'd run for dog catcher – but i like dogs to much.
OT: On Maddow Barney Frank's official response to McCain and other doomsday predictors regarding the remarkable lack of problems in the military in the last year related to the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell:
"NYAH NYAH!"
(smiley face)
Lets all pledge to give $5 per fap to Warren's campaign, even though that will bankrupt some of us.
I *was* going to wait until October and budget out how much I can afford to give, but after seeing this, I sent in a quick $25. Will budget for more next month.
GO ELIZABETH!
What about the guy running against Cantor?
Steph and Mudcat seem to think Cantor can be beat.
It may be to soon to call it however but maybe hope and change will be four years later, as planned
I'll put that on my list when I budget for October (God, that list gets longer by the day…)
Wayne Powell was great on her show the other day
Cantor vulnerable? Be still, my heart.
Wonkette is doing that thing it did last night where the full date and time are listed when you refresh the latest comments. Argh! What the hell has been going on the last few nights?
I like it, but why not GMT? Now it's back to regular.
It's not just the time, though. While that is annoying, I'm having to refresh the page just to make replies. Otherwise, when I'm replying, it just hangs.
Huh. I've seen similar behavior on my iPad, just upgraded to the GM of iOS 6.
I'm having the same problem- it seems to wait for live blogs to crop up…
Here is what SayItWithWookies said last night:
"What's funny is that it's Twitter-related — when the writers embed the tweets as above, there's a script in the follow button that refers to something not on the page, which causes it to hang. Putting a screenshot instead of a direct embed solves the problem."
I hope someone sent this tweet to them. It sucks that the last thread of the night is the one it happens to.
Huh, that's worth knowing. I've been fucked by this many a time.
Firefox doesn't like it. Perhaps some other browsers don't care.
I'm using Firefox, and I'm one of those stubborn people that once I find a browser, program or search engine I like, I don't switch. Hell, I bet I'm the last user of the Yahoo search engine. lol
Can anyone test to see if you get this error in, say, IE?
After watching the debate, Romney decided to return to that house in Florida, organize a couple of pool-fun-raising parties and try to revamp his campaign. Orale, Mito!
https://picasaweb.google.com/11400799981044075510…
Aughhhhhh! DO NOT WANT!!1!
Am I disappointed that at no point did Brown strip to the waist, revealing his oiled-up torso, and start shouting at Warren daring her to wrestle him for the senate seat because, "You think I can't take you?? YOU THINK I CAN'T TAKE YOU?!?"
Yes. Just a little. Maybe next time.
So, who won i?!
Needs: "Direction by George Cukor"
Scott Brown = Neoclinus blanchardi
He manages to make the word "Professor" come out like a sneer.
Meanwhile back at the ranch, Rush Limbaugh's dick is shrinking because you ladys won't shave your legs
http://mediamatters.org/mobile/video/2012/09/20/l…
fsdfsdfadf
She may be a fake Native American, but Scottie is a genuine asshole.
Does he play for Pittsburgh's baseball team? They are Pirates.
*pouts*
Ya want maybe some nice latkes for breakfast also?
LATKES? Yum! You are an awesome Bubbe.
Oh Borg, I love you just a little more every day
I can no longer get into ID, even though I'm supposedly logged in. But don't jinx Tammy. We're not celebrating till she's in.
For such a shayne punim, we make latkes.
I love you too, sweetie. (Hugs you)
I'll see if I can get 'em to melt a little faster, in the interests of your poor hurting eyes. They must've heard you, cause, MAN, they are losing it big time.
My blood pressure went down 10 points when I saw Mitt in his orange-face.Watched Chris Hayes this morning and actually felt sorry for his token conservative.The rest of them laughed so raucously through the entire two hours, incl. our girl Ana Marie Cox.
Here's a little tidbit to make you extra happiez, then: Sarah Palin has decided she needs to give Mitt 'n Ann the benefit of her WhizDumz. She's advising Mitt to "go rogue."
I imagine he's popping a blood vessel right … about … now.
I look forward to daily explosions now.
I think his campaign manager went rogue quite awhile ago.
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