DEPARTMENT OF BAD ANALOGIES  12:40 pm September 13, 2012

Jon Kyl To U.S. Embassy: Stop Raping Yourself

by Doktor Zoom

Because really, do you WANT a picture of anyone in this story?Senator Jon Kyl (R-Arkham Asylum) had a very insightful analysis of the U.S. Embassy’s statement condemning religious bigotry. In a stunning combination of cluelessness, partisanship, and a basic misunderstanding of analogy, Kyl told a group of reporters

It’s like the judge telling the woman who got raped, ‘You asked for it because of the way you dressed.’ OK? That’s the same thing. ‘Well America, you should be the ones to apologize, you should have known this would happen, you should have done — what I don’t know — but it’s your fault that it happened.’ You know, for a member of our State Department to put out a statement like that, it had to be cleared by somebody. They don’t just do that in the spur of the moment.

Leaving aside the trivial detail that the Embassy’s statement said nothing about America being at fault or needing to apologize, Kyl’s odious comparison achieved epic levels of assholishness on several counts. Un: You might think that, given the late unpleasantness over Todd Akin, which threatened to derail the GOP convention, a Senator might be a tad careful when it comes to throwing around comments regarding rape. Deux: You might also think that, given his own high-profile non-factual statement about abortion being “well over 90 percent of what Planned Parenthood does,” Kyl might think a little bit before opening his stupid hack mouth. Trois: Jon Kyl is from the Great State of Arizona, where a judge prompted widespread condemnation a few days ago for actually telling a victim of sexual assault that she asked for it.

In that shining example of jurisprudence, Coconino County Judge Jacqueline Hatch found it advisable to use the sentencing hearing for the perpetrator as a forum to lecture his victim on how she invited her own sexual assault by existing in public after dark.

Last summer, off-duty state police officer Robb Evans, already drunk, entered a Flagstaff bar, approached the victim (“a friend of a friend”) from behind, put his hand up her skirt, and groped her genitals. The jury at his trial convicted him of felony sexual abuse and he was fired by the Arizona Department of Public Safety after an internal investigation. Instead of the six months to 2 1/2 years in prison that the conviction could have brought, Judge Hatch sentenced Evans to two years of probation. He will also not have to register as a sex offender. Clearly, there must have been some pretty mitigating circumstances!

Judge Hatch, appointed to the bench by feminist icon Gov. Jan Brewer, told the victim that wantonly going to bars while in possession of a vagina is a recipe for trouble:

Bad things can happen in bars, Hatch told the victim, adding that other people might be more intoxicated than she was.

“If you wouldn’t have been there that night, none of this would have happened to you,” Hatch said.

Hatch told the victim and the defendant that no one would be happy with the sentence she gave, but that finding an appropriate sentence was her duty.

“I hope you look at what you’ve been through and try to take something positive out of it,” Hatch said to the victim in court. “You learned a lesson about friendship and you learned a lesson about vulnerability.”

Hatch said that the victim was not to blame in the case, but that all women must be vigilant against becoming victims.

“When you blame others, you give up your power to change,” Hatch said that her mother used to say.

So choose your friends carefully, ladies! You never know which friends might know someone else who is not your friend who likes to get drunk and put their hands up women’s skirts. And going to bars after dark? Well that’s just slutty. Even worse is to blame another person for walking up behind you, putting their hand up your skirt, and groping you, because if you blame someone else for that sort of thing, you actually are giving up your power to change your slutty behavior. Oh, and just to be clear, it’s not your fault. But in the future, think about this: why didn’t you stop it from happening, huh?

Also, Judge Hatch has apologized to the victim. So everything is OK now, there is no war on women.

So, getting back to Sen. Kyl: You can see how the U.S. Embassy saying that maybe religious bigotry is a bad idea is EXACTLY like blaming a rape victim. Which a judge in his state literally did. This week. One might think that Kyl would be somewhat aware of all that. Actually, this is Senator Jon Kyl, so any expectation that he would be “aware” of anything is maybe a bit optimistic.

[Atlantic Wire / ThinkProgress]

 

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Poindexter718 September 13, 2012 at 12:43 pm

No, Sen. Gassbag, here's the proper analogy, you pasty feck:
Shameless opportunists (you, Mitt Romney) criticize a rape victim's (Cairo embassy's) parents (the WH) because she used less than perfect grammar in her screaming (issued an inartful press release) while the rapist (angry mob) was closing in on her.

Lascauxcaveman September 13, 2012 at 12:53 pm

Nailed it.

sullivanst September 13, 2012 at 12:59 pm

ISWYDT.

orygoon September 13, 2012 at 2:17 pm

One might also argue that it would, in fact, be ill-advised for a girl-person to wear provocative clothing in Cairo or Sana or Riyadh or Kabul. You know what I mean?

miss_grundy September 13, 2012 at 11:18 pm

You could probably wear the full beekeeper's suit and if someone had a mind, I guess the girl could still be raped.

Obviously, the Repubs love to talk about rape. And they haven't learned to fermez la bouche.

Dr_Zoidberg September 13, 2012 at 12:44 pm

Good god. Good god! GOOD GOD!!!!

And this is why I hate people.

HELisforHEL September 13, 2012 at 12:53 pm

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Dr_Zoidberg September 13, 2012 at 2:30 pm

Ahhh, I love Phineas and Ferb!! Oh, now I want that shirt….

HELisforHEL September 19, 2012 at 1:33 pm

I know what we're gonna do today…we're gonna buy that awesome tshirt!

Dudleydidwrong September 13, 2012 at 1:45 pm

Billy Currington: "God is great, beer is good, people are crazy…" Well, two out of three ain't bad. Asshole Kyl's at the real baddy bad end of the crazy spectrum. Stay out of bars, Jon because some blind, really drunk and hard up guy might grope you and discover that of the three possible things between your legs, two are missing.

no_gravity September 13, 2012 at 12:46 pm

Since Kyl is retiring at the end of this term I expect a lot more stupid to come out of him between now and January.

Terry September 13, 2012 at 1:11 pm

You just KNOW his district is going to replace him with someone even more stupid.

bobbert September 13, 2012 at 1:22 pm

Senator. Whole state.

But, your point stands.

BerkeleyBear September 13, 2012 at 1:42 pm

Could get Dr. Awesome Carmona, former Surgeon General and pretty much badass. Or Jeff Flake, the perfectly named idiot.

Guess which one is leading in the polls (hint – it isn't the Messican sounding one).

Doktor Zoom September 13, 2012 at 2:47 pm

Sounds like an Eye-Tie to me.

BerkeleyBear September 13, 2012 at 4:58 pm

Only because you don't live in the land of sun-baked brains. He's brownish, and that's enough.

sbj1964 September 13, 2012 at 12:46 pm

Being American means never having to say your sorry.

Oblios_Cap September 13, 2012 at 1:20 pm

When you're exceptional, the rest of the world just has to kiss your ass.

Biel_ze_Bubba September 13, 2012 at 1:56 pm

And if America rapes a country, well, they were asking for it.

Estproph September 13, 2012 at 2:00 pm

Well, if that country wasn't dressed like that, hanging out on the wrong side of the world…

Gleem McShineys September 13, 2012 at 3:01 pm

Last decade, off-duty Vice President Dick Cheney, already drunk, entered a Iraq, approached the victim (“a friend of a friend — Rumsfeld was Saddam's pal”) from behind, put his drills up her skirt, and pumped her oil.

HIM? NOT CONVICTED, ALSO TOO.

Maman September 13, 2012 at 12:46 pm

Why are Republicans obsessed with rape?

CrunchyKnee September 13, 2012 at 12:50 pm

Because they like to fuck America against its will?

JustPixelz September 13, 2012 at 12:58 pm

And every democratically enacted bill by Democrats is "rammed down our throats".

prommie September 13, 2012 at 12:56 pm

Hedley Lamarr: "You said 'rape' twice"
Applicant: "I like rape."

MosesInvests September 13, 2012 at 1:38 pm

Beat me to it.

Isyaignert September 13, 2012 at 6:28 pm

Me too. I am beginning to see a pattern here.

Lionel[redacted]Esq September 13, 2012 at 12:58 pm

It's the only way they get laid.

ChillBill September 13, 2012 at 1:01 pm

"Sen. Kyl, show me on the doll where the pastor touched you."

PsycWench September 13, 2012 at 1:15 pm

Dunno but I remember Rush Limbaugh talking about bending over and grabbing one's ankles a lot. Clearly not HIS ankles. That would defy the laws of physics.

Toomush_Infer September 13, 2012 at 1:21 pm

It's ….um….psychological….guilt will do that to you….

Dashboard Buddha September 13, 2012 at 1:23 pm

Because to them, rape is like potato chips. Rape the land, rape the environment, rape the economy, make jokes about prison rape, rape women who deserve to be raped. Rape rape rape rape rape…you can't stop at just one.

FlownOver September 13, 2012 at 12:46 pm

The GOP legislative fascination with rape – it's everywhere you want it to be.

Boredw/Gravitas September 13, 2012 at 1:15 pm

That and comparisons to Hitler. BTW, just how does Hitler fit into this for repugs?

miss_grundy September 13, 2012 at 11:22 pm

Democrats are Hitler, which is funny since the Nazis were so right wing!

Goonemeritus September 13, 2012 at 12:48 pm

Fuck John Kyl, fuck terrorists, and especially fuck this new industry of professional inciters of Muslims.

WhatTheHolyHeck September 13, 2012 at 12:48 pm

If a train leaving Benghazi at 9 am is going 55 mph and a train leaving Sana travels in the opposite direction carrying 38 dozen squirrels, each carrying a bag with 13 vandalized Qurans, how is disavowal of one asshole's crazed rhetoric just like blaming a rape victim?

Show your work.

Graham Cracker September 13, 2012 at 1:33 pm

I hate math problems!

orygoon September 13, 2012 at 2:17 pm

TRAIN WRECK!

chicken_thief September 13, 2012 at 12:48 pm

Jon #notintededtobeafactualstatement #notintendedtobeanaccurateanalogy

Estproph September 13, 2012 at 12:48 pm

Attention Senator Stupid Kyl: If you are sitting in an embassy in Cairo when a riot breaks out in another predominantly Muslim country because of something incredibly stupid and racist that someone in the country you represent did, and you have no guidance from your superiors yet because not enough time has gone by to get that guidance, and there is a crowd forming outside your gates, and they are clearly VERY PISSED OFF…

you just might consider saying something conciliatory, in an effort to keep things from getting worse. Just sayin'.

Beowoof September 13, 2012 at 1:09 pm

Kyl was probably having his Clint Eastwood, I am a bad ass fantasy again. Tough guy when he is 7000 miles away, but if he was in the embassy he would have a great big pant load.

BoatOfVelociraptors September 13, 2012 at 1:55 pm

You will hear the word "leadership" from republicans quite a few times in the coming weeks. For them a great leader is a man of "strength" who is able to exact as much gain as they can in any situation, even if the other parties say no. They are like Conan, the Barbarian. Hence the dead people and crying women.

HistoriCat September 13, 2012 at 2:04 pm

I'll take Conan over the Republicans any day of the week.

Isyaignert September 13, 2012 at 6:31 pm

And teh fascination with rape.

BaldarTFlagass September 13, 2012 at 12:49 pm

Man, my Texas lady friends all love it when I grope their genitals at the bar.

Jus_Wonderin September 13, 2012 at 12:50 pm

They asked for it, right?

BaldarTFlagass September 13, 2012 at 12:52 pm

Yep. And I am really looking forward to the Texas Wonkette drinky meetup, if such a thing should occur…

Jus_Wonderin September 13, 2012 at 12:55 pm

I hear ya. They look like fun. I'll defintely drive if it is down there. Who other Wonketteers are from Texas? Just us?

Texan_Bulldog September 13, 2012 at 12:57 pm

Me…waving arm wildly! Near Austin.

BaldarTFlagass September 13, 2012 at 1:06 pm

Oh, we're pretty well represented here. I know HistoriCat lives in Houston, and I think Chascates lives in Austin, Fartknocker too, iTuna in Waco. there's more but I can't think of them right now.

anniegetyerfun September 13, 2012 at 1:07 pm

I do believe that there is a certain bulldogette who MIGHT come from the region.

MosesInvests September 13, 2012 at 1:40 pm

*In* Austin, thankyewverymuch.

Noah_S_Snark September 13, 2012 at 1:04 pm

Don't have to, just being in a bar means they want it…

Lionel[redacted]Esq September 13, 2012 at 1:00 pm

In Texas, they have special sections of the bar set up for that and smoking, right?

Jus_Wonderin September 13, 2012 at 1:02 pm

True, they ask at the door "Groping or No Groping".

Tequila Mockingbird September 13, 2012 at 12:49 pm

Jon Kyl speaks with the wisdom that can only come from experience, like a guy who went blind because he looked at a solar eclipse without one of those boxes with a pinhole in it and now goes around the country speaking at high schools about the dangers of looking at a solar eclipse without one of those boxes with a pinhole in it.

KeepFnThatChicken September 13, 2012 at 12:57 pm

…I don't recall the wisdom in his words, though.

Juan_Oriley September 13, 2012 at 1:02 pm

We had a partial eclipse in SoCal this year and I was asking the folks I worked with if they knew the deal with the box with a hole in it. Last time I was around for one of these things was 30 years ago or something so I couldn't remember. The all looked at me funny when I was asking about a box with a hole in it. We could really have used an explanation from a poor guy who went blind.

Steverino247 September 13, 2012 at 12:49 pm

"You said 'rape' twice."

"I like rape."

And thus another Republican talking point was born.

no_gravity September 13, 2012 at 12:49 pm

“I hope you look at what you’ve been through and try to take something positive out of it,”

Sort of like making lemonade out of piss.

BaldarTFlagass September 13, 2012 at 1:01 pm

Take chicken shit, make chicken salad.

GunToting[Redacted] September 13, 2012 at 1:19 pm

Just like a rape baby!

Dashboard Buddha September 13, 2012 at 1:23 pm

Or rape-ade out of rape.

Hera Sent Me September 13, 2012 at 12:49 pm

I gotta analogy for you, Johnny:

A prize fighter, convinced that defeating his opponent will be no problem, instead finds himself getting his ass kicked from the first round on. By round five, he's punch-drunk and angry. Thinking through his haze that he sees an opening, he punches wildly, missing his opponent and instead hitting the turnbuckle. He howls in pain. Then the boobs in his corner start yelling at the ref that it's the opponent's fault for ducking out of the way.

metamarcisf September 13, 2012 at 12:50 pm

Kyl's remark was not supposed to be a factual statement

Doktor Zoom September 13, 2012 at 12:55 pm

Excellent point. I should have made it clear that he already considers himself free of any need to use facts.

Beowoof September 13, 2012 at 1:11 pm

I thought that was a given about any republican legislator, candidate for office or Fox News anchor.

Toomush_Infer September 13, 2012 at 1:32 pm

Factless and feckless…nice combination…

Gleem McShineys September 13, 2012 at 3:08 pm

Full of fec-es, however.

youngfred September 13, 2012 at 1:42 pm

Good point. It wasn't an analogy, either, imho. It was more like a parable — just one point, not a consistent constellation of meanings. Kyl's people would understand this and not expect something else.

KeepFnThatChicken September 13, 2012 at 12:50 pm

In two weeks, there's been Akin, Kasich, Buchy and Kyl.

Misrepresenting the purpose of a vaginal orgasm.
Reminding women they were not supposed to attend the rally.
Making assumptions on abortive motivation.
Bad English / grammar / usage / theme.

Legislators, all.

chicken_thief September 13, 2012 at 12:52 pm

But Obama. Because worldwide apology tour.

oenspiek September 13, 2012 at 2:36 pm

"I'm sorry that the Republicans like to shoot first and aim later."

prommie September 13, 2012 at 12:59 pm

Fruedian libel!

Schmannnity September 13, 2012 at 12:51 pm

Zombie Barry Goldwater should kick Kyl's and Judge Hatch's asses. He would probably pass on eating their "brains."

sullivanst September 13, 2012 at 12:56 pm

Do we know for sure that Jon Kyl isn't actually Zombie Barry Goldwater himself?

GunToting[Redacted] September 13, 2012 at 1:22 pm

Barry actually comes across as a nearly reasonable human being. I think some of his ideas were not great, but he actually had a brain, and saw the GOP dumbening coming a mile away. Fuck, if Barry was still alive, I'd rather have him on the GOP ballot than Mittens.

sullivanst September 13, 2012 at 1:33 pm

The GOP dumbening is in large part Barry's fault. He really got the ball rolling on the unthinking embrace of the furthest right policies imaginable, regardless of consequence: SSA? Kill it with fire. Grannies will starve? Fuck 'em. Labor unions? Burn them! Workers will be killed by unsafe workplaces? Fewer mouths to feed! Plus, Goldwater's epic electoral whupping wiped out much of the Republican old guard and created the openings into which the young guns who valued ideology over functioning government started to insert themselves.

One_who_wanders September 13, 2012 at 2:21 pm

But Barry would never have allied with the religious right which is the source of much of the true insanity in the GOP platform. It is his fault in the sense that they got so creamed they realized they had to fully develop the Southern Strategy and, in general, take their allies where they could find them.

fuflans September 13, 2012 at 12:51 pm

GOD. i really REALLY wish i didn't know any part of that story.

Texan_Bulldog September 13, 2012 at 12:51 pm

Maybe all the young female (or male) Senate pages should stay away from the Republican senators. Just saying…they might be asking for it if they bend over to pick up a piece of paper.

Shypixel September 13, 2012 at 12:51 pm

You are missing the larger point here, which is this:

If the United States hadn't been having a Democrat in the White House out in public, none of this would ever have happened.

Which is true, if you think about it. You think President Palin (You know McCain would be dead by now had he won) would have hesitated for one second to bomb the shit out of Libya when she discovered that there were Muslims living there?

So you see, if we would have had the common sense to have a Republican in the White House, there would have been no Libyans left alive to attack our embassy.

Why do you libtards have such trouble following simple logic?

GunToting[Redacted] September 13, 2012 at 1:23 pm

Wow, Dearborn MI really dodged the ICMB there!

ColHeightsChic September 13, 2012 at 2:14 pm

But as the possesser of a vagina, would President Palin be advised to lock herself in her bedroom after dark so as not to have her vagina groped too? also.

Shypixel September 13, 2012 at 2:53 pm

Well, if her Republican brethren had their druthers, this wouldn't be an issue, as President Palin would be in the White House kitchen, where she belongs..

On a side note: do you notice how smoothly those words roll off your tongue – "President Palin"?

Smooth, like coarse grain sandpaper over a cheese grater.

no_gravity September 13, 2012 at 12:51 pm

The Rape of the Lock is the republicans favorite poem even though they don't get it.

4TheTurnstiles September 13, 2012 at 12:55 pm

Rather than the Rape of the Locke by Pope, they get the Rape of the Pope by Locke (whom they read as a proto-Adam-Smith)

StealthMuslin September 13, 2012 at 12:51 pm

Republican guys using rape metaphors are a gift from god. A broken gift which we must never abort. Although once they're born you can abuse them all you want because Bible.

RedneckMuslin September 13, 2012 at 12:52 pm

Clearly, Arizona is the victim here.

sullivanst September 13, 2012 at 12:57 pm

Then it must be Arizona's fault. Which makes sense.

Lionel[redacted]Esq September 13, 2012 at 1:02 pm

Arizona should stop dressing so provocatively.

LibrarianX September 13, 2012 at 1:21 pm

Confusing cause and effect.

Blueb4sinrise September 13, 2012 at 12:52 pm

Why?! What's this?! ZOUNDS!!!!!!!

I somehow have Kyl's contact right here, even though I suspect that my emails have been blocked for some time now.
http://www.kyl.senate.gov/contact.cfm

sullivanst September 13, 2012 at 12:52 pm

I see Kyl is compounding Mittens' major mistake in his wonton rush to politicize violence against Americans while it was still ongoing.

It's hard to blame the victim by issuing a statement before the violence has occurred. That is as insane as Mitt's double-down nonsense that an Embassy under siege must clear its urgent statements hoping to defuse an imminent threat with Washington.

How fucked up is this country that long-time politicians think that spewing this frothy bullshit is a good idea? How fucked up is it that there's even a chance that they're right about that?

Biel_ze_Bubba September 13, 2012 at 1:46 pm

Relax — it appears that a mere 40% of the populace is dumb enough to fall for frothy bullshit spouted by obvious morons.

UnholyMoses September 13, 2012 at 12:52 pm

Dear Sen. Kyl,

Shut. The. Holy. Fuck. Up. Forever.

Sincerely,

All of Humanity

TheGyrus September 13, 2012 at 12:52 pm

The people who think an embassy tweet should get clearance from the oval office are the same people who think government needs to be slashed because its too inefficient.

Shypixel September 13, 2012 at 12:56 pm

Can I like this post more than once, because I am pretty sure eleventy billion times is more than once.

Not 100% sure though, because I refuse to let my math be dictated by fact checkers…

Toomush_Infer September 13, 2012 at 1:36 pm

Unless, of course, 911….

Isyaignert September 13, 2012 at 6:45 pm

Slightly OT, but I went to a Chamber of Commerce luncheon today where a friend who is running for the state legislature was part of a forum of people running in our district. My friend is a proponent of forming a State bank instead of using Wall St. banks.

His opponent, a one-term incumbant and an "R" said she was against the idea because, you know, you can't trust us with your money. My jaw dropped. The cool thing is we have it on video and a commercial was born. How come the "Rs" always forget about those electronic recording devices?

Tequila Mockingbird September 13, 2012 at 12:53 pm

Jon Kyl’s use of analogies is as bad as, like, whatever.

sewollef September 13, 2012 at 1:21 pm

Or, or…. like a box of nuns singing, and you will too.

These analogy thingies are easy aren't they?

CapnFatback September 13, 2012 at 1:33 pm

You just made me laugh: a deep, throaty, genuine laugh, like that sound a dog makes just before it throws up!

Toomush_Infer September 13, 2012 at 1:38 pm

Jon Kyl's analogy is like Jon Kyle standing under an anvil with a rope attached which has a sign on it, stating: "Don't Pull Rope"…..

SayItWithWookies September 13, 2012 at 12:53 pm

So Jon Kyl is comparing outraged Muslims to rapists, is that right? Oh, this oughta help with our ties to the citizens of predominantly Muslim countries.

Lionel[redacted]Esq September 13, 2012 at 1:11 pm

But you see, if we bomb them, they won't be able to get outraged. That is the wonders of the Republican position.

notanncoulter September 13, 2012 at 12:54 pm

not to be so obvious as to be pointless, but john kyl is one the biggest assholes on the planet. ever.

and this landmark legal precedent from the other portion of this post will be gasped at and mocked for many centuries:
“If you wouldn’t have been there that night, none of this would have happened to you,” Hatch said.

cuz, you know, quantum physics.

SexySmurf September 13, 2012 at 12:55 pm

America was just asking for it by putting out such a short anti-Muslim video. Thirteen and a half minutes! You look like a street-walker.

TouchedByDog September 13, 2012 at 12:55 pm

Fun with pull-quotes!

"I…..like…..rape" – Sen. Jon Kyl

Lionel[redacted]Esq September 13, 2012 at 12:55 pm

FACT CHECK: You see, if it is a legitimate storming of an Embassy, the Embassy will naturally prevent the mob from enterring. Only if it is an illegitimate storming will the Mob enter and burn the American flag.

This statement is not intended as a factual statement.

Oblios_Cap September 13, 2012 at 12:55 pm

So Kyl thinks the Ambassador and staff that were killed were "just asking for it" since they were tweeting in the Midle East ? Everybody knows that nothing good can come from that; it's like wearing a short, tight, red dress to a Wonkette drink-a-thon.

BaldarTFlagass September 13, 2012 at 1:00 pm

*makes mental note to self*
"dont wear the red dress. check."

Toomush_Infer September 13, 2012 at 1:40 pm

Today, we are all a red dress…

kittensdontlie September 13, 2012 at 12:56 pm

Their is light at the end of the Stupid Tunnel:

Kyl will not seek re-election to the Senate in 2012 and will retire at the end of his third term, which concludes on January 3, 2013, a day when just a small bit of Senatorial stupidity dies….Hallelujah.

hagajim September 13, 2012 at 1:16 pm

Unfortunately it won't die. It's Arizona, they'll just replace him with someone that's as stupid, if not stupider. I figure Judge Hatch is probably the favorite.

HarryButtle September 13, 2012 at 5:31 pm

Actually, Congressman Jeff Flake is the Republican nominee and, therefore, favorite to win because…Democrat? Not fucking likely.

anniegetyerfun September 13, 2012 at 12:56 pm

Wait, I thought that telling women that they deserved to be raped was a part of the GOP platform this year?

hagajim September 13, 2012 at 1:18 pm

I think its integral…and not to get an abortion once you are raped.

magic_titty September 13, 2012 at 12:58 pm

I couldn't read his remarks because my eyes have ways of shutting that whole thing down.

MissTaken September 13, 2012 at 12:58 pm

So many women to rape, so little time.

sbj1964 September 13, 2012 at 12:58 pm

The Muzzies are always pissed about something.I would be pissed also if I had to live around that many complete religious assholes.They are almost as bad as the Southern Baptist.

SmutBoffin September 13, 2012 at 1:00 pm

Meanwhile, in Kyl's body…

Mouth: HOLY CRAP! Brain wants to make a terrible, ill-timed, and incorrect rape analogy! What should I do?
Lungs: I'm "shutting the whole thing down". Prepare to redirect this dumbass's comments to a different orifice!
Ass: PTBBBBBBBBBB…put

freakishlywrong September 13, 2012 at 1:00 pm

Can I get an Oh For Fuck's Sake? (OFFS).

fuflans September 13, 2012 at 1:00 pm

sometime in the distant and misty future, this republican campaign season will be funny.

bobbert September 13, 2012 at 1:19 pm

But the fact that John Kyl is a fucking US Senator will never be funny.

MosesInvests September 13, 2012 at 1:46 pm

Someday, we'll all look back at this and laugh…nervously, and change the subject.

KeepFnThatChicken September 13, 2012 at 1:01 pm

Speaking of can't-unring-a-bell, I can't wait for this asshole filmmaker, who had all the courage and dollars to make this fucking piece of shit film, to show up somewhere and start explaining his piece of shit film. Come out out hiding, goddammit. People want to axe you some questions.

Not that I have any empathy for the murderous among the religion of peace, but fuck… why should Uncle Sam have to take the rap for this dickhead's (again) PIECE OF SHIT FILM?!

Toomush_Infer September 13, 2012 at 1:41 pm

Nobody seems to know where the money came from – Koch Brothers????….

MacRaith September 13, 2012 at 1:02 pm

Doc, you keep making the same mistake. Here, I'll quote it for you: "Kyl might think a little bit before opening his stupid hack mouth." It's right there in the first three words: Kyl might think. Why, after all this time, do you still expect members of the GOP to think?

LibrarianX September 13, 2012 at 1:03 pm

Does living 40 miles from Arizona put me at risk for turning completely insane? Is it some form of radiation?

Shypixel September 13, 2012 at 1:05 pm

Yes.

Sorry, no humor here, move along.

GunToting[Redacted] September 13, 2012 at 1:30 pm

I've been interred here for nearly 7 years, and I'm still (reasonably) sane. At least when it comes to politics.

Toomush_Infer September 13, 2012 at 1:42 pm

Too Late!!!!!!…..

Mumbletypeg September 13, 2012 at 1:04 pm

Clearly Kyl is no closer to grasping the immedicacy of rape-related issues than Buchy is to mastering the wonderments of abortion's persistence in reality.
It'd be more fun if literary devices and rhetorical devices were somehow personified into the ugly, mutant things Kyl is abusing them into — so they could team up on him and pummel the crap out of him, with Buchy as stuttering referee trying to call the play blow by blow.

poorgradstudent September 13, 2012 at 1:04 pm

For starters it's coming out now that the attacks weren't the result of spontaneous violence against an anti-Islamic film (which incidentally was apparently funded by far-right Coptic Christians under the guise of a fictional Jew in California…zany!) but a planned strike by Al Qaeda, but even when people thought it was all about some crappy movie nobody except the voices in a few right-wing pundits' heads were saying that it was all America's fault.

I'm just assuming that's what brought out the dumb in Kyl, and not that tortured, crazy allegories about rape is just how he responds to every situation from "Someone ate all the ice cream before I could even have a bowl" on up.

sullivanst September 13, 2012 at 1:09 pm

Not clear that it was funded by the loony Coptic guy, apparently it had sank almost without a trace on YouTube until the zany Coptic dude saw it and thought "hell yeah, this'll piss of the moozies bigtime, I must make sure they all see it"

JustPixelz September 13, 2012 at 1:04 pm

I assume Kyl feels this is a legitimate rape, otherwise his analogy(?!) doesn't work.

Yet yesterday Sarah Palin™ told Obama to grow a stick. (Hint to Sarah: Men's sticks grow themselves when you're not around.) Is she thinking Obama should be more rapey with embassies or other countries.

So, Iraq was asking for it, right?

fatbob54 September 13, 2012 at 1:18 pm

Why is Sarah so concerned with black men's sticks?
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-09-14/news/3

Dashboard Buddha September 13, 2012 at 1:25 pm

Oh ho, Sarah might counter…what about Todd's "stick"? Sorry Sarah, anything that needs to be fluffed by Bristlecone doesn't count.

sudsmckenzie September 13, 2012 at 1:06 pm

The logical conclusion to wrap the embassy in a giant burqa.

Callyson September 13, 2012 at 1:09 pm

OK, in precisely what way is an expression of regret about religious prejudice–one that was expressed BEFORE the attacks in Libya took place, and consequently did NOT amount to making an excuse for the actions of the attackers–equivalent to blaming a rape victim by criticizing her attire?

Asshole.

oenspiek September 13, 2012 at 3:10 pm

Because, Jeebus. Obviously.

hagajim September 13, 2012 at 1:10 pm

Un: John Kyl is a complete dumbass.
Deux: The Republican party is filled with assholes
Trois: I'm so fucking glad I don't live in Arizona where apparently people are completely insane assholes.

GunToting[Redacted] September 13, 2012 at 1:31 pm

*sniff…*

BarackMyWorld September 13, 2012 at 1:10 pm

Noticing a theme with these posts today.

docterry6973 September 13, 2012 at 1:10 pm

Because a GOP senator making a rape analogy is the perfect cover for Romney. They are geniuses I tell you, geniuses.

imissopus September 13, 2012 at 1:11 pm

Related: an interesting story on how the statement from the embassy in Egypt came into the world: http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/09/1

Callyson September 13, 2012 at 1:11 pm

And fuck your apology, judge: it does not change the fact that a sexual predator roams the streets free to strike again. At least the Department of Public Safety had the decency to fire his sorry ass…

Bitch.

BaldarTFlagass September 13, 2012 at 1:17 pm

"At least the Department of Public Safety had the decency to fire his sorry ass… "

Yeah, now he can pursue his interests full time.

Callyson September 13, 2012 at 1:41 pm

Aaaand now I need a drink or ten, and it's not even noon here…Sigh…

barto September 13, 2012 at 1:14 pm

When I first read "Hatch apologized to the victim" I thought you meant the (ex) patrolman, as that would have been much more consistent with judge Hatch's exemplary judicial style.

Lionel[redacted]Esq September 13, 2012 at 1:14 pm

You know who else asked for it?

GunToting[Redacted] September 13, 2012 at 1:32 pm

Poland?

MosesInvests September 13, 2012 at 1:50 pm

Czechoslovakia?

BoatOfVelociraptors September 13, 2012 at 2:09 pm

I don't know, but they better be thinking of England.

ChernobylSoup September 13, 2012 at 1:14 pm

I'm just surprised Republicans haven't started calling Ambassador Stevens a coward yet.

smitallica September 13, 2012 at 1:14 pm

Yes, Kyl. Muslims getting all riled up about a film that was made SOLELY for the purpose of riling them up is EXACTLY like rape. You ignorant fuckwad.

cheetojeebus September 13, 2012 at 1:14 pm

a proper analogy: Jon Kyl is like a festering maggoty boil.

Lionel[redacted]Esq September 13, 2012 at 1:16 pm

You know the judge has a point, as most raped women take something positive out of the experience.

YouBetcha September 13, 2012 at 1:16 pm

I just love it when idiotic, paternalistic men discuss rape like they have an iota of what the fuck they're talking about. It's so sexy.

No but really, fuck him hard. Sideways. With a rusty hand saw.

FakaktaSouth September 13, 2012 at 1:18 pm

Someone should sneak up behind that "judge" and rip off her robe and stop this bitch's mouth from moving. It's not her FAULT she's an idiot who has no business dealing with victims of gross crimes, it's just you know, when we don't protect ourselves from morons, we give up our right to not have terrible people in positions of power.

CarolinaStewPie September 13, 2012 at 1:27 pm

Sharia law would solve the whole thing, Senator Kyl. If we only let the great usurper Kenyan Socialist in chief implement it across this great land the way he wants, that slutty bitch in Arizona would be home in her burka and the Muslim Brotherhood would love us all over the Arab World. Less slutty sluts parading around with their wanton and lascivious vaginas, AND cheap oil. It's a win/win. Now I need to go get a few drinks at my favorite Moozlim hangout..the Allah Ak BAR.

ffredpalakon September 13, 2012 at 1:29 pm

Well, I for one am grateful for this rape analogy. No doubt this means America's female biology will kick in to prevent any lasting consequences. But even if it doesn't, it's already got an abortion, in Jon Kyl.

Do you hear that, Kyl? You're actually what you hate most in the world. It's like the end of Planet of the Apes when Charlton Heston discovered he was actually manufactured out of Soylent Green.

proudgrampa September 13, 2012 at 1:31 pm

"It’s like the judge telling the woman who got raped, ‘You asked for it because of the way you dressed.’ OK? "

What?

What The Fuck??

Pu-leeze, if there is justice in this universe, smite this asshole.

ColHeightsChic September 13, 2012 at 1:32 pm

By counting in French, all you do is prove your allegiance to the elite liberal media. Stoopid French Frey loving lamestream media lackey.

Biel_ze_Bubba September 13, 2012 at 1:39 pm

I strongly recommnend we not stage any Wonkette Drinky Thingies in Arizona.

Boojum September 13, 2012 at 1:40 pm

I'm so not enjoying these assholes. Right now, after reading my client's psych records and seeing this shit, I fucking hate all men.

DahBoner September 13, 2012 at 1:51 pm

there is no war on women

"This was not intended to be a factual statement"–John Kyl

BerkeleyBear September 13, 2012 at 1:56 pm

Having gone through the FSO selection process once (and been selected for it twice – I backed out last time because my family was moving) I can say that the individual officers have to deal with shit like this riot a lot. They routinely are expected to independently deal with people who are pissed of at any number of things and taking it out on the Americans because they make easy targets. The number one goal in that setting is to calm the angry nuts the fuck down, if at all possible in a way that makes them walk away with a marginally better understanding of America's professed values of tolerance and multiculturalism. Because (outside of the Bush Admin Baghdad Embassy/green zone nightmare) they don't have the luxury of just cutting themselves off from the society they are tasked with living in.

In other words, John Kyl isn't worthy to kiss any of these people's asses, much less say anything about their conduct. His retirement package should include a one way ticket to serve as a Public Information Officer in Kabul – I suspect he'd make it about 2 seconds before he insulted someone so badly he would gain all sorts of new insights about sexual assault.

Guppy September 13, 2012 at 1:59 pm

Y'know… is rohypnol actually illegal in Arizona?

Sassomatic September 13, 2012 at 2:08 pm

Let me see if I can play the analogy game:

I am a white person(s) living in a mostly black neighborhood. If I were to stand on my stoop shouting the n word at whoever happened to be passing by, and my partner came out the door and said, "Hey! I'm not cool with this, bro!" and then my neighbor, who is also a white person(s) got beat down by some passing person(s) of color not possessed of a whole lot of patience, given to violent tendencies, and associating my white neighbor with the racial-slur-shouting white person of myself, my partner would then be guilty of "apologizing for our values," thus causing the beat down, and also "blaming the victim," despite the fact that the racial-slur-shouter and the beat-down-getter are separate parties.

This took me about ten minutes to work out and I still don't understand.

ColHeightsChic September 13, 2012 at 2:22 pm

This letter has changed my mind. http://azdailysun.com/news/opinion/mailbag/hatch-
I am no longer angry at the judge lady.

bobbert September 13, 2012 at 4:27 pm

Because you are now angry at Laura "You deserve what happens if you go to a bar" Parker?

TribecaMike September 13, 2012 at 5:26 pm

In Flagstaff, that's considered a mature attitude.

BTWBFDIMHO September 13, 2012 at 2:52 pm

And 9/11 was a gang-bang. No wonder OBL was watching porn all the time .

comrad_darkness September 13, 2012 at 2:52 pm

New, this season on Fox . . . Judge Hatch : Burka Patrol!

Pithaughn September 13, 2012 at 5:09 pm

So on this go nuts cuz some one made fun of your prophet idea.
Why are Xtians such pussies?
They have not attacked a single embassy or consulate since this was released. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vjsf1pVkiU

TribecaMike September 13, 2012 at 5:22 pm

Friends of a friend don't let friends of a friend rape Jon Kyle.

Isyaignert September 13, 2012 at 6:34 pm

Everyone here is on FIRE with their comments! Upfists all around!!

ttommyunger September 13, 2012 at 8:57 pm

I get it: Kyl is trying to win the coveted "Dumbest Motherfucker in the World" Title from Hologram Zombie Gerald Ford, amirite?

valthemus September 14, 2012 at 2:41 am
Jus_Wonderin September 13, 2012 at 12:59 pm

Oh, sorry. I had my back turned.

HistoriCat September 13, 2012 at 2:05 pm

I don't know man – all these dogs are making me a little nervous.

BaldarTFlagass September 13, 2012 at 2:21 pm

Check my teeth. No worries.

sullivanst September 13, 2012 at 3:25 pm

He might not have embraced the religious right, but there's a reason the religious right has embraced Ron Paul – they realize that if libertarians ever succeed in their wet dreams of drowning the Federal government in the bathtub, it'll give them an opening to theocratize the states. Even though Goldwater would have found that outcome less desirable than Paul, he'd have enabled it all the same.

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