LIKE A POLICY PORN STAR  10:20 am September 10, 2012

Mitt Romney Takes Four Different Positions On Pre-Existing Conditions In Twelve Hours

by Jesse Taylor

david gregory, ready to pounceYesterday, David Gregory had an exclusive breaking up to the minute two-part interview with the Romneys on Meet the Press. The first part of the interview was spent awkwardly sitting super-close to the Romneys and asking them kind of silly questions as the bus bounced up and down and maybe David Gregory got a little bit carsick.

9 AM EST

At one point, Gregory asked the Romney hive mind if it would keep any parts of Obamacare. Romney responded thusly:

Romney told Gregory he “likes parts of” Obamacare, and that he would leave in place the prohibition against excluding people with pre-existing conditions and the policy that lets young adults stay on their parents’ insurance policies “up to whatever age they might like,” Romney said, rather unbelievably. “I say we’re going to replace Obamacare. And I’m replacing it with my own plan. And even in Massachusetts when I was governor, our plan there deals with pre-existing conditions and with young people.”

This is really, really big news. Obamacare guarantees that you will not be discriminated against in terms of pricing or insurance issue if you have a preexisting condition, even if you were not covered while you had the preexisting condition. Because this is 2012 and we live in America, this is somehow still an issue that needs to be dealt with.

Romney has never said this before, and so it is a massive shift in his stance on this issue. That means, of course, that it was actually a massive screw-up, and  it’s all the liberal media’s fault.

11 AM

Thanks, Jennifer Rubin! You’re the best at being a really creepy middle-aged version of Alicia Silverstone’s character from The Crush with a sinecure at the Washington Post for no discernible reason!

As it turns out, the Romney plan, two hours later, is this:

The preexisting coverage plan would prevent re-rating of patients or exclusion of coverage if they go from an individually purchased plan to an employer plan or the reverse. (ERISA already protects those who move from one group plan to another.) For those first entering the insurance market, states will have the latitude to develop mechanisms such as high-risk pools for those hard-to-insure individuals.

This is essentially the state of insurance as it currently exists under HIPAA, coupled with some vague nod toward insanely expensive state-run insurance pools for people who are unlucky enough to take jobs that don’t offer health insurance or who can’t afford to pay $900 a month for COBRA coverage after Bain loads up their employer with debt and then sells off the asset. (I kid, I kid, Bain Capital made money by selling sugar cookies and lemonade on the side of the road.)

In other words, Romney’s plan is to do what we already do, but say it’s a new plan, and not grant any additional preexisting condition coverage to anyone.

4:55 PM

The National Review, however, did not get the above tweet, probably because they find Jen Rubin as insufferable as everyone else on the fucking planet does. They asked the Romney campaign for a clarification, and this is what they got:

In reference to how Romney would deal with those with young adults who want to remain on their parents’ plans, a Romney aide responded that there had been no change in Romney’s position and that “in a competitive environment, the marketplace will make available plans that include coverage for what there is demand for. He was not proposing a federal mandate to require insurance plans to offer those particular features.”

So now, Romney has flip-flopped on the part where he said young adults would be covered on their parents’ plans and also the part about the preexisting conditions. (Ed. – National Review edited out that part, Think Progress has the original edit.) THERE WILL BE NO PLANS FOR ANYONE TO GET ANYTHING SO SHUT UP AND NEVER EVER LOSE INSURANCE OR DON’T GO TO THE DOCTOR IF YOU DO, MKAY?

9:45 PM

Oops.

Turns out the Romney campaign got confused by whatever question National Review asked (exclusive: it was a single text asking “WTF???”), and has the real real answer that it meant to give all along.

“Gov. Romney will ensure that discrimination against individuals with pre-existing conditions who maintain continuous coverage is prohibited,” the aide said.

So, basically, sort of what Jen Rubin said at 11 AM, but without any specifics, and probably what his plan was before he opened his big yap on the bus to keep David Gregory from puking all over him or asking if they could be bunkmates when they got to camp.

The real lesson of all of this: Jen Rubin is always right. Always. The other real lesson: Mitt Romney will protect your right to be continuously insured as long as you have continuous insurance by doing absolutely nothing whatsoever because Congress already took care of that when he was just a failed Senate candidate.

The end.

 
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ManchuCandidate September 10, 2012 at 10:22 am

Spin that wheel of conviction Mittens.

Round and round it goes, what's his position nobody knows!

actor212 September 10, 2012 at 10:48 am

Wheel of Morality, turn, turn, turn,
Tell us the lesson that we should learn

"David Gregory made himself hacktacular"

sullivanst September 10, 2012 at 11:27 am

"David Gregory made himself hacktacular"

Nope, pre-existing condition.

BoatOfVelociraptors September 10, 2012 at 12:54 pm

It's that TIME again!
Like everybody around Romney, he wants a piece.

CrankyLttlCamperette September 10, 2012 at 10:55 am

Shouldn't that be "Shake that Etch-A-Sketch of convictions?"

chicken_thief September 10, 2012 at 10:59 am

AOT, K….

sullivanst September 10, 2012 at 11:30 am

Wheel in this guy keeps on turning
He don't know what he'll say tomorrow

DWW September 10, 2012 at 12:06 pm

You mean the Real Mitt Romney?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxch-yi14BE&fe

ChernobylSoup September 10, 2012 at 10:24 am

The fact that his wife has MS and he's against coverage of preexisting conditions disqualifies Romney from elected office, and from humanity. My father died from MS. The disease broke us, taking us from wealth to poverty in just a few short years. Go to hell, Romney family.

Texan_Bulldog September 10, 2012 at 10:34 am

You should have gotten him a fancy dancing horse since that helps HRH Ann.

(Sorry about your Pop.)

ChernobylSoup September 10, 2012 at 10:38 am

FDH technology was considered experimental, so the insurance wouldn't pay. We could only afford a mule but it just kicked all us kids and took our lunches.

Serolf_Divad September 10, 2012 at 10:43 am

Kicked you and took your lunches? Was that mule named Mitt Romney by any chance?

starfanglednut September 10, 2012 at 12:44 pm

Depends. Did it hold him down and cut his hair?

Tangled sin tax September 10, 2012 at 10:53 am

My wife has MS and keeps up fairly well on the research, but has never heard of FDH. What is it? (BTW, after 10 years of Avonex she stopped all treatments as apparently ineffective)

ChernobylSoup September 10, 2012 at 11:07 am

FDH – Fancy Dancing Horse. Sorry about the snark. Best wishes to you and yours.

Terry September 10, 2012 at 11:29 am

Equine therapy has been shown to be helpful to people with a range of conditions. Riding moves muscles fairly gently in a range of directions. I suspect that the fact that it's more interesting than working out on machines helps, as well.

I do believe, however, that the Romneys are writing off Ann's horse as a tax dodge.

actor212 September 10, 2012 at 10:53 am

It's still considered experimental, but some HMOs will let you ride a carousel, so long as you promise not to take the brass ring.

And sorry about your dad. Mine died after a lengthy incarceration in a nursing home, and if it wasn't for his union and Medicare, my mom would have had to move in with me. In fact, his illness made me go out and buy a long-term care policy, just so my daughter wouldn't have to feed me cat food.

And not even the expensive kind.

belmontreport September 10, 2012 at 10:47 am

I am truly sorry for your loss. For any family to have to worry about finances while their family member is ill should make every American ashamed.

They keep trying to "humanize" Romney by talking about how he helped friends, family, and members of his temple. But the true test of an empathetic human is the ability to understand the struggles of people that you do not witness. It is easy to be sympathetic or to help those you know, but it is far harder to be empathetic and help those that you've never met. Realizing and acknowledging their own privilege to pay for treatments for Ann's MS and breast cancer, and knowing that other people struggle to do the same (struggling to pay for far inferior treatments than what Ann receives) would say far more about them than if they bring Christmas presents to someone that they see each Sunday.

heathenette September 10, 2012 at 2:02 pm

THAT is a beautiful explanation of what’s wrong w/ Mittens! Thank you! If I give u credit can I use it when I’m discussing why I don’t like the R&R ticket?

StarsUponThars September 10, 2012 at 10:55 am
Mumbletypeg September 10, 2012 at 11:43 am

That is unspeakably low. Lower than a snake. Thanks for linking that.

Callyson September 10, 2012 at 12:44 pm

How is this not getting more coverage in the "liberal" media?

FFS…

fuflans September 10, 2012 at 2:20 pm

yowza. that's a story that should get traction.

reliefsinn September 10, 2012 at 10:57 am

I am sure you are comforted to know that not only does Anne Romney get a $100,000 "dressage" horse to help her out, she takes advantage of reflexology and other alternative treatments. Any person with an ounce of compassion or self awareness might reflect on how lucky they were to be in the position of taking advantage of any available treatment, "experimental" or otherwise, and come away with some compassion for their fellow man, but the Romney's are not normal persons. This is not surprising, consider that not one of the Romney sons, nor Romney himself, has ever had the honor of wearing the uniform of this country's armed forces, despite ostensibly "supporting" the wars this country engages in.
And I am sorry to hear that story about your Dad.

Katydid September 10, 2012 at 11:11 am

Oh, CS, I'm so sorry. I lost my mom last year, her death could not have been prevented, and that was tough enough. This must be maddening. <hugs>

Terry September 10, 2012 at 11:26 am

Agreed. How can he be so out of touch? I'm starting to think he's a psychopath, lacking entirely in empathy.

IonaTrailer September 10, 2012 at 11:32 am

I agree, we came to the same conclusion last week.
And my sympathy CS about your dad. The death of our parents is one of the hardest things we have to bear.

Living in Joy September 10, 2012 at 1:35 pm

Truly sorry for your loss. Where in the hell does Romney officially reside? Is it MA? If so, does he take advantage of the insurance mandate he pushed through while governor? It's amazing to me that there are actually human beings who would deny others the chance for health care. Everytime I see that idiot who owns Papa John's on TV talking about his $10 pizza, I always correct him – $10.14 so he can cover the costs of insuring his few full-time employees. What dicks!

ktscarlett24 September 10, 2012 at 1:44 pm

As someone living with MS, it infuriates me when I hear other patients say they're voting for Mittens. "Why should I care? I have insurance through my job, and even if I can't work, I'll have it through my husband."

On average:
– Annual cost of living with MS: $69k
– Length of time an MS patient remains in the workforce after diagnosis: 10 years
– Husbands who leave their wives after an MS diagnosis 67%

But hey, as long as you stay married to a gazillionaire, why should you worry?

no_gravity September 10, 2012 at 10:25 am

What he really wanted to do was to echo the sentiments expressed at the Tampa debate 'let him die.'

anniegetyerfun September 10, 2012 at 11:22 am

I wonder if Gregory would have cheered as loudly as the audience at that debate?

Buzz Feedback September 10, 2012 at 10:25 am

Is Mitt being a shit-tard a pre-exising condition?

LibertyLover September 10, 2012 at 10:27 am

Mitt being Mitt is a pre-existing condition. Sadly, there is no cure.

ManchuCandidate September 10, 2012 at 10:27 am

Yes. See Teabaggers, US Amercia

LibertyLover September 10, 2012 at 10:25 am

That wasn't a very good bedtime story…it didn't even start out with "Once upon a time…"

actor212 September 10, 2012 at 10:48 am

Or involve any lubricants.

LibertyLover September 10, 2012 at 10:56 am

That would explain the lack of a happy ending.

ManchuCandidate September 10, 2012 at 10:26 am

I just realized he's writing the Mittra Sutra.

The Ancient Art of 1000 Political Positions so he can fuck over every group of voters (including his brain dead supporters) in a single day.

actor212 September 10, 2012 at 10:49 am

Yes. In fact, I believe this one is called "Flying Turd".

sbj1964 September 10, 2012 at 10:27 am

We will just call it Rombama Care out of fairness.

Biff September 10, 2012 at 10:53 am

Rombama ended on August 18 this year.

Texan_Bulldog September 10, 2012 at 10:28 am

Jen Rubin=skinnier version of K-Lo. We'll have to start calling her JRub.

Apparently these poor women are still sad that no one took them to prom.

weejee September 10, 2012 at 10:36 am

Can you order K-Lo Skinny at the WaPoo coffee shoppe?

FlownOver September 10, 2012 at 10:48 am

I find it difficult to JRub one out.

actor212 September 10, 2012 at 10:49 am

JRube works better

SpiderCrab September 10, 2012 at 10:31 am

What's Sheldon Adelson's position on this? Seems to me that's the bigger question.

Serolf_Divad September 10, 2012 at 10:57 am

Does it involve bombing Iran or busting up labor unions? If not, he likely has no position.

eggsacklywright September 10, 2012 at 10:31 am

I wonder if Greggers can write off knee-pad expenses on his tax form.

FakaktaSouth September 10, 2012 at 10:33 am

Dammit just tell the man what he's got to say to win this thing and let's just be done with it all right? He does not have time for opinions and questions and DEFINITELY not FACT checkers, he has important shit to do. Like ride around on a fucking bus. I hate this man. It is made all the more worse by the up their own ass fucktard bastards I have to deal with here that think they are SO SMART for supporting this guy. WHAT DO YOU SUPPORT ASSHOLES? HE DOESN'T KNOW, HOW COULD YOU???? Shit like this does not help me not want to throttle the lot of them. This is a bunch of bullshit.

ManchuCandidate September 10, 2012 at 10:35 am

Romney/Money Badger don't give a shit.

FakaktaSouth September 10, 2012 at 10:39 am

or KNOW shit. Ever.

AbandonHope_ September 10, 2012 at 12:11 pm

Money Badger just might be the best nickname of all time. I have to tell my wife that one.

MosesInvests September 10, 2012 at 10:36 am

Seems like if you live in 'Bama (or anywhere in Texas besides Austin and maybe San Antonio), you'd need to take up meditation just to keep from strangling someone on a daily basis.
I know I would.

Nothingisamiss September 10, 2012 at 4:05 pm

You say meditation, I say medication. Same same.

Chet Kincaid_ September 10, 2012 at 11:08 am

Obama is going to beat him like a rented mule in the debates.

prommie September 10, 2012 at 11:23 am

Heh heh. That amuses me, that even a hundred years before cars, people abused any form of transportation that was rented.

FakaktaSouth September 10, 2012 at 11:29 am

I am absolutely LIVING for the debates. LIVING FOR THEM. I cannot wait to see what PresO does. It will be very interesting to see them debate the difference between what Roms did in Massachusetts and the Affordable Healthcare Bill as it turned out to be.

DerrickWildcat September 10, 2012 at 10:34 am

Still not a record. I think some guy in Bulgaria holds it.

glasspusher September 10, 2012 at 10:47 am

Yeah, but Mitt did this without doping.

actor212 September 10, 2012 at 10:51 am

Well, now evidence suggests he's quite the dope.

Oh, you meant like PEDs. Sorry.

glasspusher September 10, 2012 at 10:56 am

Great minds think alike! A dope without doping, truly a wonder.

4TheTurnstiles September 10, 2012 at 10:35 am

b-b-b-b-but… America needs a "normal" president!

MosesInvests September 10, 2012 at 10:46 am

"Normal", not "near"?

actor212 September 10, 2012 at 11:04 am

Unfortunately, Mitt has a pre-existing "condition".

CthuNHu September 10, 2012 at 11:31 am

Someone, you know, a normaler shade of normal.

actor212 September 10, 2012 at 10:35 am

Wow, so if I have a pre-existing condition, it will be covered under Romney, so long as I already have health insurance and don't let it lapse, which is sort of why I can't quit my job now because I'd let my insurance lapse because my COBRA payments would basically exhaust my unemployment insurance (assuming I could quit-by-being-laid-off) so under Romney I'd have to stay at the same sucky fucking job instead of borrowing $20,000 from my poor, dead dad and starting the business of my dreams, a canteloupe-picking service for urban gardeners.

weejee September 10, 2012 at 10:41 am

Actor, your dream job is to spend 8 hours a day fondling picking melons?

actor212 September 10, 2012 at 10:51 am

It's a tough job, but someone has to do it.

starfanglednut September 10, 2012 at 1:05 pm

An even worse fucking over would be perpetrated on those "just entering the insurance market", i.e. all the poor people who had previously been uninsured.

TootsStansbury September 10, 2012 at 10:36 am

Should we start a contest to guess what excuse this campaign will use to weasel out of the debates?

kittensdontlie September 10, 2012 at 11:42 am

Rafalca goes lame, but her health insurance coverage lapsed!

Nowisallthereis September 10, 2012 at 2:36 pm

Tagg comes out.

TootsStansbury September 10, 2012 at 7:26 pm

Seamus pooped on my homework.

mrblifil September 10, 2012 at 10:36 am

This is the political equivalent of being able to suck your own.

weejee September 10, 2012 at 10:43 am

Did Mittens learn how from carroofdog?

eggsacklywright September 10, 2012 at 10:38 am

I thought Mormons only allowed one position. Y'know, the one he had in France.

Come here a minute September 10, 2012 at 10:38 am

Item: Mitt Romney
Condition: Manufacturer Refurbished

MadBrahms September 10, 2012 at 10:50 am

I think his Opinion Regulator is still on the fritz. Quality Control always seems to miss that one; better go find the soldering gun.

Graham Cracker September 10, 2012 at 1:33 pm

Item: Mitt Romney
Condition: Manufacturer Refurbished
but still unstable

Warranty: No Guarantees
Price: Can be bought, but you can't afford him.

ChillBill September 10, 2012 at 10:39 am

"Four different positions in 12 hours" sounds like a sales pitch for Viagra.

YasserArraFeck September 10, 2012 at 10:45 am

"If you experience a strong opinion lasting more than 4 hours, contact your pollsters immediately…etc etc"

thurufally September 10, 2012 at 10:39 am

The New York Times is reporting that in addition to the two Presidential debates, Mitt Romney will be participating in three others in which he will debate himself.

FlownOver September 10, 2012 at 10:55 am

And lose.

actor212 September 10, 2012 at 10:59 am

Schizophrenia is a difficult illness.

Chet Kincaid_ September 10, 2012 at 11:11 am

Something something master debater.

PeaceWithHonor September 10, 2012 at 10:39 am

Oh for fuck's sake. Come on mumbles, can't you get anything right, from anyone's point of view?

Serolf_Divad September 10, 2012 at 10:40 am

So Mitt Romney's plan: claim to support all the reforms in Obama's Affordable Care Act, but carefully design your own versions of these reforms so that they don't actually do any of these things.

Romney's walk-back of the ACA provisions that allow young people to stay on their parents' insurance policies until age 26 really has to be the best walk back ever: "When I said that I would keep that part of Obama's plan that allows young people to stay on their parents' insurance policies till age 26 what I really mean to say was that if there's a market for insurance plans that allow coverage of children up to age 26, surely the market will meet this need by providing such policies."

Hell, you could promise anything using this logic, couldn't you? "When I said free beer and pizza every Friday at work, what I mean was that if there's real demand for free beer and Pizza every Friday at work, surely the market will step in to provide it."

prommie September 10, 2012 at 10:45 am

There is a market for two cars, and an elevator, in every garage. And invisible handjobs, for free, all the time, for everyone!

Serolf_Divad September 10, 2012 at 11:07 am

Two caddies for the wife, a hand-job for the pool boy and an elevator straight to Mormon Heaven.

Toomush_Infer September 10, 2012 at 11:21 am

Wow, thanks Prommie!….But which market should I apply to?…'cause I'm so out of it I don't know which one is stepping up……

MadBrahms September 10, 2012 at 10:41 am

At this point all of Romney's press releases should be scored with calliope music.

eggsacklywright September 10, 2012 at 11:04 am

And a laugh track.

glasspusher September 10, 2012 at 10:42 am

The one true direction on the compass? Why, North,South,East and West, of course!

YasserArraFeck September 10, 2012 at 10:43 am

This is why Anne stays with him – Mittens may not have Rafalca's personality, but he has snake-like flexibility

glasspusher September 10, 2012 at 10:57 am

…and unlike Rafalca, he's only been trotted out twice in the last four years.

CthuNHu September 10, 2012 at 11:37 am

…and with Rafalca, Ann gets to enjoy a ride every now and then.

ttommyunger September 10, 2012 at 10:44 am

"MITT ROMNEY TAKES FOUR DIFFERENT POSITIONS" : This is good news for Ann Romney.

ManchuCandidate September 10, 2012 at 10:52 am

Not really. 4 positions in 12 hours? Nah.

I'd be already halfway thru the Kama Sutra at that point assuming my privates were coated with Teflon.

ttommyunger September 10, 2012 at 11:00 am

…and in my case, a splint.

ChillBill September 10, 2012 at 10:56 am

Please, she's lucky if she gets 4 minutes, missionary.

YasserArraFeck September 10, 2012 at 11:02 am

in the dark, through a hole in the "special underwear"
getting your freak on, Mormon style

chicken_thief September 10, 2012 at 10:57 am

Or David Gregory.

ttommyunger September 10, 2012 at 11:25 am

…or Wolf Blitzer or………….

kittensdontlie September 10, 2012 at 11:48 am

Bad news for Ann Romney: He still has only one position, and even that one, is to screw everyone else.

ttommyunger September 10, 2012 at 2:11 pm

Well said!

eggsacklywright September 10, 2012 at 10:45 am

The fact that this soulless turd is even in contention for office is a pitiful reflection of the state of the nation.

BeachRose September 10, 2012 at 10:45 am

There is no Romney plan. On anything. Here is the strategy:

1. Make stuff up if anyone asks.
2. If anyone wants details, say you don't get to find out until after the election, so ha ha ha

amoamas September 10, 2012 at 10:47 am

He'll be back to "clarify" by 4:00 p.m. Eastern.

StarsUponThars September 10, 2012 at 10:50 am

Mitt Romney: Any Way the Wind Blows in 2012.

Toomush_Infer September 10, 2012 at 11:24 am

And, like the pre-christian jew told us: You don't need a Weatherman to know….

HistoriCat September 10, 2012 at 2:05 pm

Clint Eastwood really needs to stop doing sequels to 70s movies.

MacRaith September 10, 2012 at 10:52 am

Hey, go easy on the guy. He was working as hard as he could to keep it down to four contradictory versions; left to his own devices, it would have been around twenty.

glasspusher September 10, 2012 at 10:53 am

Rubin: another fucking Jennifer

belmontreport September 10, 2012 at 10:57 am

News agencies are a little bit like a 4th grader. They've already talked about this story (when the interview aired), so now they've moved on. Those of us that spend all day thinking about politics will know what happened, but those low-information swing voters are going to just think that he said his plan was the same as Obama's but it isn't Obamacare (so way better).

By the way, the people I hate the most during elections are not Republicans. I really hate the low-information swing voters. They are the reason why everything has to be smiles and unicorns and God and guns and FREEDOM and 'Merica. They're the reason Obama has to bowl, Romney has to talk about Obama taking God off of money, and we all have to pretend like press releases actually say something. They are also the reason I have to hear fucking Ann Romney prattle on about how sweet her husband is, while she nervously opens her eyes wide enough to give me nightmares. Can you please stop watching The Bachelor for an hour, visit the candidate's websites, read their stances, and then make a decision? It isn't that fucking hard, and you're fucking shit up for the rest of us.

Sorry. Rant over.

T3rbo September 10, 2012 at 11:53 am

I feel the same way. What makes me sick to my stomach is how these people make decisions: they seem to go with who they like more instead of who is the better policy guy. This works in Obama's favor, but when I see any news show that has a panel of undecided voters, I can't bear to watch anymore. The undecideds tend to give responses that are designed to be met with approval, like they want the interviewer to tell them good job for saying something correctly.
The undecided voter, on television shows, don't ever admit that they haven't done any research outside of media consumption or casual conversations with other idiots, so all they can do is vaguely quote the candidates' often repeated talking points or sound bites. The more I type, the more I realize that the undecided voter has a lot in common with the right wing voter. Perhaps the non college educated white male believes the talking points and the undecided voter does not?

belmontreport September 10, 2012 at 12:25 pm

I realize now that a lot of what I wrote is super classist. I understand that not everyone has the privilege to sit at a desk all day and read about politics while at work. And I realize that many people when they go home just want to spend time with their kids or go to their second job or just relax, not worry about politics. It is frustrating, but I shouldn't really be mad at them. I was going to say that I should be mad at an educational system that hasn't taught them media literacy or enough about government to be able to make informed decisions, but the reality is, part of the reason education is so fucked is because they keep electing Republicans.

Ehhhh. You're right, hopefully the fact that Obama is more likable will help them make the right decision, even if it is just based on that time when they saw that guy bear hug him and then he had a beer.

T3rbo September 10, 2012 at 12:44 pm

I think it is more of a kind of willful ignorance, which should be intolerable. It makes sense when people do not have access to information in third world countries or houses without the internet, but if someone chooses to not become engaged, at least every four years, with facts and information, that speaks more to the character of the person and not to the state of the economy or to the state of the educational system. Yes, civics classes are missing in a lot of high school classrooms, but to actively choose to remain ignorant in a house that has more than one smart phone, an internet connection, multiple computers and tablets, etc., is not easily excused even if it is easily explained. Citizens are failing the country, and forgiveness of this failure is a kind of an enabling of bad behavior, no?

belmontreport September 10, 2012 at 1:04 pm

I agree with that is true for many people.

I do have a Facebook "friend" that recently posted that politics isn't her "thing", but that she'd vote for Clinton again because he gave an awesome speech on Wednesday. The problem? She is a year older than me, so that means that she couldn't have voted for Clinton ever.

I wanted to yell at her about how politics should be everyone's "thing", because it is her responsibility to be engaged in how her government runs. She constantly bitches about schools losing funding (she is an elementary school teacher), state parks enacting a fee, the cost of healthcare, etc. These things are part of politics! But you know… like you said, willful ignorance.

But I think a lot of it does have to do with people's media illiteracy. The fact that anyone is swayed by attack ads is proof of this.

NellCote71 September 10, 2012 at 12:55 pm

I watched all the primary "debates," granted, mostly for the entertainment value. I watched all nights of both conventions, granted to see just how much the GOP would screw up. I do go out of my way to learn as much as I can about the other side. However, I will absolutely not turn into any Faux news program, listen to Rush Limbaugh or click on those racist, homophobic, hate-filled websites. I want the GOP to have worthy, sane candidates as much as anybody. It is good for the country. This current lot and the electorate are not. One can only hope they forget or are too drunk to vote on election day.

T3rbo September 10, 2012 at 1:49 pm
chicken_thief September 10, 2012 at 10:58 am

This is great news for Rick Santorum! Oh, wait…

Eve8Apples September 10, 2012 at 11:01 am

In other words, under RmoneyNOcare, your health insurance coverage will randomly vary every few hours depending on the direction of the wind, the time of day, the day of the week, and whatever the Magic 8 Ball says when you get sick and request health insurance pay your medical bill.

T3rbo September 10, 2012 at 12:12 pm

Yes, that's what he said. "Market based."

glasspusher September 10, 2012 at 11:01 am

Needz moar position changing

RedneckMuslin September 10, 2012 at 11:02 am

The free market allowed for four different positions.

chicken_thief September 10, 2012 at 11:04 am

Whatevz. He ain't a blah moozlin who never had a job so he's got my vote locked up.

I can't wait for those tax cuts to trickle down to me!

mbobier September 10, 2012 at 11:04 am

My, my — with so much flip-flopping and contorting, Mittens really should have a team of chiropractors traveling with him.

Jus_Wonderin September 10, 2012 at 11:05 am

Mr. Data: "Even a robot is more consistent than Mitt."

CthuNHu September 10, 2012 at 11:11 am

You know who else went through four positions in twelve hours, but swears it never happened?

glasspusher September 10, 2012 at 11:14 am

Jesse Jackson Jr.?

eggsacklywright September 10, 2012 at 11:23 am

Professor Irwin Corey? Although, I have to admit that anyone who starts a speech with "However….." would get my vote.

RedneckMuslin September 10, 2012 at 11:44 am

Bree Olsen?

OneYieldRegular September 10, 2012 at 11:26 am

Isn't there any kind of treatment for people suffering from pre-existing rich person obliviousness?

MozakiBlocks September 10, 2012 at 11:30 am

Oh, just fuck off Mitt.

IonaTrailer September 10, 2012 at 11:37 am

My gay, retired brother-in-law (with existing high blood pressure) said yesterday this election could potentially ruin his life if Romney gets elected. He could be denied health insurance for the pre-existing condition, or if he could find a policy it would be ruinously expensive. He and his partner could be denied the right to make health decisions, and if Romney ran the economy into the ground with his tax cuts to the rich, they'd lose everything they worked for.
We have got to make this election a win for the Democrats.

DahBoner September 10, 2012 at 11:42 am

The Adaptive Situational Logic Subroutine is a little too 'adapty'?

proudgrampa September 10, 2012 at 11:53 am

Oh, lies and the lying liars who tell them!

johnnyzhivago September 10, 2012 at 12:01 pm

So Mitt was for it and against it before he was against it and for it?

rickmaci September 10, 2012 at 12:07 pm

Mr. Romoney, "what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

Gleem McShineys September 10, 2012 at 2:57 pm

Or, May DOS have mercy on your Boot Sector.

T3rbo September 10, 2012 at 12:20 pm

Amazing, you can actually see the Tea/Republican Party ruin Romney's policies and his chances for election in real time!

Romney: "Of course I am going to have a set of healthcare policies that benefit Americans: I fucking created RomneyCare!"

Four Hours Later, Romney: "I for one welcome our Corporate Overlords and their ideas. Only hard working Americans will have access to market based solutions, because Constitution!"

BarackMyWorld September 10, 2012 at 12:59 pm

"Romney's inconsistency is very surprising," said no one.

LibrarianX September 10, 2012 at 1:28 pm

I thought his plan all along was: if discovered to have a lingering condition, we will smother you with plastic bags (pillows cost too much).

Slim_Pickins September 10, 2012 at 1:31 pm

A content-free campaign, just what the teabaggers deserve.

Troglodeity September 10, 2012 at 1:36 pm

Wow, I can stay on my parents' healthcare plan to "whatever age I like"? That's FANTASTIC! Can Romney also sign a law requiring them to let me stay in their basement to whatever age I like too, because I think I'm going to need that if he's elected.

HistoriCat September 10, 2012 at 2:10 pm

Wait a second – my mom is on Medicare. Does that mean I can get on Medicare and bring along my family? Medicare for All – the system works, people!

ffredpalakon September 10, 2012 at 4:56 pm

I don't think he's still running for president. He's now just trying out a one man show of The Butterfly Effect.

christianmuslin September 10, 2012 at 8:48 pm

Romney knows all he needs is a pulse on Nov 6 and no statements that offend significant segments of the gop cluster %#&@* and he has a good chance. It is ariithematic: he isn't blah! What a sorry excuse for a humsn being.

Attila_T_Hun September 11, 2012 at 1:43 am

On the bus wheels of Dharma, you spin your own karma.

lulzmonger September 11, 2012 at 6:52 am

The Tao Of POOPYHEADS.

HistoriCat September 10, 2012 at 1:55 pm

"Tax dodge" is Romney's default state.

Gleem McShineys September 10, 2012 at 2:32 pm

"working out on machines"

Also something Ann Romney does?

BOWM CHICKA BOWM
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