Yet Another GOP Senate Candidate Says Something About Rape

  the liberal media strikes again

a generic man for specific rapeNew Rule of Politics: If you’re a Republican running for Senate, just never talk about sex or anything related to it. You will do better pretending storks bring babies to worthy parents and/or welfare applicants.

Tom Smith is running for Senate against Democratic Sen. Bob Casey. An intrepid Associated Press reporter decided to ask the candidate what he would tell a family member who was raped about his desire to see her keep the baby against her will. This is not a “tell me what happens during rape” question, nor is it a “tell me about Todd Akin without using the letter ‘e’” question. All Smith has to do is say something along the lines of “all life is precious” and he’s pretty much homefree.

MARK SCOLFORO, ASSOCIATED PRESS: How would you tell a daughter or a granddaughter who, God forbid, would be the victim of a rape, to keep the child against her own will? Do you have a way to explain that?

SMITH: I lived something similar to that with my own family. She chose life, and I commend her for that. She knew my views. But, fortunately for me, I didn’t have to.. she chose the way I thought. No don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t rape.

SCOLFORO: Similar how?

Just you wait.

SMITH: Uh, having a baby out of wedlock.

SCOLFORO: That’s similar to rape?

SMITH: No, no, no, but… put yourself in a father’s situation, yes. It is similar. But, back to the original, I’m pro-life, period.

You put yourself in a father’s situation? Like the father of the child with the woman he raped situation, or the father of the raped woman? It would just be handy to know how to properly confront your raped child, because it’s a topic not often confronted in most parenting books.

“Dad…I was raped.”

How much is this gonna cost me?

“I…what?”

Do you love this guy? You gonna marry him? How much am I shelling out?

“Are you listening to me?”

Oh, I suppose you’re going to want a registry with your little rapey friend now.

Healthy, well-adjusted children come from healthy, well-adjusted families that equate rape to pretty much any inconvenience ever.

[ThinkProgress]

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217 comments

    1. Gleem McShineys

      Are all of these guys douchbags?

      No.

      You've got your skeevy shitheels, scummy dickbuckets, tarded ass-dribblers (…continues this way much like Bubba Gump talks about shrimp)

  1. ChernobylSoup

    I know what I'd do during a nuclear attack. Something similar happened to me once: I got a hangnail and had to deal with it.

  2. finallyhappy

    As I remember -from sending Casey money when he ran against and defeated Santorum- Casey is also anti-abortion but not a moron. Mainly I supported him because he was running against Ricky S- I did not care what his platform or beliefs were.

      1. sullivanst

        You've got a lot of heart, giving even to crumby Dems like McCaskill and Casey. I know their opponents are ghastly, but… I hope you've given to Elizabeth Warren, Shelley Berkley, Debbie Stabenow and Tammy Baldwin, who are all better Democrats than either McCaskill or Casey, and are all also in tight races (in fact, Casey currently looks comfortably ahead). Some of their opponents are also terrible.

        1. iamrrm

          Claire looks at me funny when we are both trying on Manolos at Plaza Frontenac so I feel that I have to donate to her campaign.

        2. Callyson

          Yeah, my list keeps getting longer…Elizabeth Warren is actually at the top of my list, and thanks for the reminders on the others.I guess I can wait until I am 80 or so to retire…

    1. Negropolis

      Well, except that a doorstop actually knows when to, you know, fucking stop. No means no, to a doorstop. It's sad that I can't say the same for a huge portion of the Republican Party.

    1. 1stNewtontheMoon

      i mean, if paul ryan got a little handsy (rape-y) who would even want to consider her options?

    2. Warwhatgoodfor

      Suppose Ann Romney was raped. OMG. Excuse me, I have to go wash my frontal lobe with bleach. Shudder.

      1. miss_grundy

        I'm going to be a real bitch and say….you mean she found someone to have sex with her???????

  3. actor212

    Oh Lord…

    How hard is this? "Rape" is when the penis penetrates the (usually) woman when it is not wanted.

    "Out of wedlock" is when the cocksucking motherfucking idiot forgets to wear a condom.

    Clear now?

    1. SavageDrummer

      Not to be too pedantic, but typical in a procreative relationship the one who does the cocksucking isn't the one that wears the condom…

      Edit: Messed that up at first… the one that does the (future)motherfucking, however, does wear the condom…

      1. SavageDrummer

        However… I don't mean to suggest that the one that does the motherfucking might not do a little cocksucking on the side…

    2. miss_grundy

      And I guess no one told his daughter she should see a gyn for birth control if she was going to give it up to the bf………..

  4. actor212

    Oh, and Mike Dukakis is laughing somewhere, for he no longer holds the record for SINGLE STUPIDEST ANSWER to a softball question, ever.

    (correct answer should have been, and it applies in this case, "Bernard! How awful that you'd wish murder on my family!")

      1. SorosBot

        And, you know, he's helping cement the Republicans as the party that not only think women should be inflicted with forced pregnancies, but also that thinks rape isn't really a big deal.

  5. Callyson

    FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING FUCK MY HOME STATE DESERVES BETTER!!!

    /deep breath, sip of cool water

    FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING FUCK MY HOME STATE DESERVES BETTER!!!

    1. Negropolis

      It deserves better, and it'll get better because this guy is going to be absolutely trounced, just like Pete Hoekstra in Michigan; just like Todd Akin in Missouri.

  6. punkneverdies

    The underlying message here is that women should stop complaining, shut their mouths, and take it

      1. punkneverdies

        No sir, enjoyment is a feeling that is privilege of the white man and only the white man.

    1. Negropolis

      I'm not sure this is even underlying, anymore. It's laying right on the top of all of this.

    1. Jukesgrrl

      In all honesty, Father of Jukesgrrl would have thought an out-of-wedlock pregnancy was worse than rape. Because the O-O-W pregnancy meant I said YES to the sex.

  7. Mittens Howell, III

    More splitting hairs.

    First 'legitimate and 'forced' rape. Now comes 'DeFacto Rape'.

    Here's one: 'Eye Rape' from when you watch Fox news and Ann Coulter comes on.

  8. sbj1964

    These Red state assholes should put the Bible down when it comes to rape.That book treats rape as a crime against the father of the woman;instead of a crime against her.And the Bible tells us that a woman should marry her rapist,or be stoned as a whore.There you have it.

    1. ChernobylSoup

      They have to stop viewing women as property before they can even think about updating their thoughts on rape.

      And I wouldn't expect that to happen this century.

    2. miss_grundy

      Unfortunately, the authors of the Old Testament lived during the time when women were considered property, so you could do with her anything you wanted. You could sell her as a slave or marry her off to a chief of an opposing tribe. You could also have as many wives as you wanted. But the asshats who want to be all Old Testament are not able to make the connection that that was a different time, a different place and a very different culture.

  9. ChernobylSoup

    Knocked up daughter – check
    Opposes sex ed in schools – check
    No irony meter – check

      1. Biel_ze_Bubba

        Of course they had a choice … and the Repukes believe that every other woman has the right to make the same choice. And they do mean the same choice.

  10. marconidarwin

    More importantly, why didn't Scolforo ask Smith whether he did the Biblical thing? Have that young rapist pay 50 shekels (inflation adjusted) and take the whore off his hands.


    Deuteronomy 22:28-29
    King James Version (KJV)
    28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;

    29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

  11. Mahousu

    I got a parking ticket once. It was pretty much almost sort of kind of close to rape.

    Anyway, I wasn't too happy, but I chose to pay it.

    1. Tequila Mockingbird

      "I did some volunteer work once…I'm not saying it was slavery, but it was similar. To be clear, I am anti-slavery, but volunteering is similar."

  12. Tequila Mockingbird

    What in fresh hell is this?

    "No, no, no. Put yourself in a father's position, yes, I mean it is similar"

    Is this like when people use the "if by no, you mean yes" joke format? Couldn't he have just stopped at "no, no, no"?

    1. SorosBot

      And what kind of father would have a similar reaction to "my daughter's knocked up" and "my daughter was raped"? Besides a psychopath I mean.

  13. Buzz Feedback

    When the Rape Babies form an alliance with the Snowflake Babies shit is going to go down.

  14. smitallica

    Why is it that so many people who proudly call themselves "pro-life" have absolutely no fucking clue how life actually happens?

  15. SavageDrummer

    According to TPM, he also pulled the whole "I don't condone rape" line, as though anyone thought any rational person condones rape…

    The fuck is wrong with these people? Seriously…

    1. SorosBot

      While they're rational, there are sadly plenty of people who condone rape; just look for any MRA group.

        1. sullivanst

          Not quite sure about the A, but the "MR" part must be "Men's Rights", presumably the A is Association or something.

          Basically, a hotbed of seething rapey deadbeat misogyny.

          1. SorosBot

            The A is activists, I believe. And they are truly awful; they're huge on trying to claim that most incidents of rape and domestic violence are made up, while also pretty much trying to justify both. They are truly awful horrible excuse for human beings who probably deserve to be castrated.

          2. miss_grundy

            I think they are all divorced men who were, rightly, taken to the cleaners by their ex-wives. These jerks are angry all the time and hate women who stand up for themselves.

          3. sullivanst

            "I can't understand why the court gave her full custody and makes me pay so much child support. I mean, I only got drunk and beat her and the kids every night and she only found me banging that floozy from work in our bed twice, and the kids weren't even home the first time. The system is stacked against men, we gotta take the power back!"

    2. NYNYNYjr

      Seriously, the most rape-y dictators and african jungle warlords say they don't condone rape. But a lot of Republican dudes actually probably run the numbers on the effect of admitting that the heartily condone it.

  16. elviouslyqueer

    Do these motherfuckers ever engage their brains before they open their mouths? Like, at all?

  17. mrpuma2u

    All sex out of wedlock is rape, or uh, just as evil as rape, but still part of jeebus's plan to force babies on those whom gawd has chosen, or somethin'.

  18. weejee

    The Repugs get so confused with all their misogyny miscegenation planks in their platform. Seems they never get to the cogito, but they got the ergo sum down pat.

  19. MinAgain

    Tennessee State Senator Stacey Campfield sponsors "Don't Say Rape" legislation in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1…

  20. mgardener

    You know why it was almost the same?
    Because this idiot did not have any control over i.

    It was the shame of it, doesn't matter how his daughter got pregnant, she wasn't married.
    And did you catch the end? He's pro life.

  21. BigSkullF*ckingDog

    "But, fortunately for me, I didn’t have to.. she chose the way I thought."

    You didn't have to WHAT? I would really like to know what this guy would have "had to do" if she had made a different choice.

    1. Pithaughn

      Honor kill her, you know to protect the honor of the family that murders her for having the sexy time urges

  22. Tequila Mockingbird

    "But do I condone rape? Absolutely not."

    This– this is a profile in courage. Why will no other politicians make this brave stand?

  23. SayItWithWookies

    Tom Smith still had an important and emotional decision to make, folks — yes his pregnant female family member chose to keep the baby, but they had to decide after its birth whether to stone the mom to death or just exile her for the rest of her life.

      1. sullivanst

        Wait, is that real? I was looking for obvious signs of snark but didn't see any, and the site seems earnest.

        1. Mumbletypeg

          I agree, initially sharing your recoil that the concept has taken root and flowered to the extent of its current, tacky, self-congratulating form.
          But no I'm not at all kidding about pooling a team of Atheists in disguise for going on the show. In fact I'm having a hard time imagining what better relishment of beating-conservatards-at-their-own-game can be had.

          1. sullivanst

            Well, Conservatards are good at rote learning dictates from their chosen authority figures, so there's that.

            But then, they clearly lack reading comprehension since we atheists typically do by far better jobs of living the principles of the New Testament than those who most vociferously claim to be doing so.

            What would be really fun would be if the teams got to set questions for each other. There's plenty of parts of the Bible they don't really like to talk about outside of quiet rooms.

            Oh looky, their casting form has entries in the religious affiliation drop down for "nondenominational", "other" and "not disclosed", but faking a "great personal testimony" might not be too easy for anyone not fluent in Vangy

      2. PubOption

        Comment from the site attached to that sneaky comma link. …score 1 for the Christians… There was no comment on the score for the lions.

  24. 1stNewtontheMoon

    is this where Tom Smith might appropriately (if antequatedly and offensively) use the word "legitimate" or its antonym.

    As in "Tom, how many legitimate grandchildren do you have?"

  25. Jus_Wonderin

    Wait. So when my Dad/Mom said "why would a guy buy the cow when the guy was getting the milk for free"…………they were literally talking about cows?????? I am fuckin' confused.

  26. Antispandex

    There seems to be an epidemic of horsesassitis in the Grumpy Old People's Party this time of year…decade, century, whatever.

  27. pinkocommi

    I think what he was trying to say is, a daughter getting pregnant from rape is easier for the dad because when it is from consensual sex then the dad has to get used to the idea his daughter is a sexual human being…. I mean, a slut.

    Rape is so much easier on the dad.

  28. mmeetoilenoir

    Well, duh, guys. Everyone knows there's no "I" in rape, so bitches need to keep that aspirin locked between those kneecaps and stay sweet. Anyway, this just goes to show you that there's no unwelcome sex. Even if a chick is saying no, she's still saying yes…somehow…so, therefore, she welcomes the chance to have a forced birth, because it's the right thing to do…also, too…

    (I think my brain is bleeding. I can't even keep up with this convoluted thinking, not even for the sake of a comment. How vile these people are!)

  29. johnnyzhivago

    Poets priests and politicians
    Have words to thank for their positions
    Words that scream for your submission
    And no-one's jamming their transmission

    'Cause when their eloquence escapes you
    Their logic ties you up and rapes you

  30. labman57

    Yep, having a baby out of wedlock is exactly the same as getting pregnant as the result of a rape … except for the whole “being raped” aspect.

    Advice to tea party candidates: Do yourselves a favor — STOP TALKING!
    On second thought — KEEP TALKING!

  31. Crank_Tango

    Why does it appear to me like this guy's head is being squeezed out of a toothpaste tube?

    That, or he is using his "oops I crapped my pants" again…

  32. Chet Kincaid_

    Let me get this straight: If it's not a "legitimate rape", the baby is "illegitimate", right? So if it's a "legitimate rape", what's the baby?

    Illegitimate rape = Illegitimate baby
    Legitimate rape = legitimate baby?!

  33. LibertyLover

    I know that the Republicans want to be all up in women's uteri, but I wasn't aware that Jeebus was already in there eHarmony-ing a good egg with a good sperm.

    Why wasn't I taught this in Biology class?

  34. StealthMuslin

    So apparently if you say "sex" to a Republican he will explode like a vampire on "True Blood."

  35. LibertyLover

    Paul Ryan thinks that rape is just another form of conception…..except without the happy ending.

  36. Chet Kincaid_

    I'm sure his daughter, sister or niece is grateful that reporters and bloggers have photos of all his female family members pinned up on the wall for a game of "Which One's The Slut?", also.

    1. Jukesgrrl

      Since he's from a town of about 50 people, and seven of them are the spawn of Tom and Mrs. Moran, oops, I mean Smith, it shouldn't be hard to figure it out. Just ask down at the gas station.

  37. docterry6973

    "I'm pro-life, period"

    "So you would force a woman to bear a child conceived by rape or incest? Even if she might die? "

    Why can no reporter ever ask the obvious folllow-up question? Gutless.

  38. SorosBot

    Really, it comes down to the fact that these misogynistic motherfucking vile excuses for human beings don't understand the concept of consent. They think some sex is good and some is bad solely based on whether it fits their religious rules or not; therefore, any sex outside of their rules is equivalently bad, whether there is nothing wrong with it, like sex between two men or two women, or between an unmarried man woman, or whether it's completely fucking wrong, like rape.

    To them though, rape and non-marital sex are just both bad because they violate the rules they think an invisible man gave them. So they think both are morally the same. This is what the so-called "pro-life" movement really believes, and yet the media continues to treat them as if they have the moral high ground, even though not only do they not, they are one of the most immoral, vile, evil, anti-human movements around.

    1. sullivanst

      Although if you read your compendium of many different authors' writings in many different languages over the course of centuries but all claiming to have received dictation from some invisible dude in the sky carefully, you come to realize that apparently rape is sometimes OK.

    2. Chet Kincaid_

      I don't think they believe rape and non-marital sex are "the same." Once they have exhausted their skepticism over a woman wanting to abort a rape-baby, and their assigning of blame for alleged slut-dressing, they would admit that the woman is blameless in an act of sexual violence against her. Their point is that all fetuses are the same, whether they come from rape, marriage, or wine coolers.

  39. barto

    Healthy, well-adjusted government comes from healthy, well-adjusted representatives. This does not describe the GOP at all. These people are out of their goddam minds.

  40. comrad_darkness

    Shorter Tom Smith: That abstinence only policy in our household worked about as well as the one in the Palin household.

  41. MissTaken

    I know whenever I leave my home I try my best to avoid getting raped because I worry how my father's reputation will be affected. Obviously I'm not the important person in the rape scenario.

    Really, when you consider the rapist, the victim's father, wannabe US Senators, and the clump of cells if the victim gets pregnant, the woman raped is somewhere around #543 on the List of Importance In Case Of Rape.

    1. Toomush_Infer

      It's just astounding that women ever got the right to vote…..and to think you did it by withholding sex….

  42. afakhir

    "Fortunately for me, I didn't have to…." tie her up in the basement and make her carry that baby to term…"she chose the way I thought."

  43. NYNYNYjr

    Put yourself in the father's situation, whether you're a rapist or just having sex outside of marriage, once you hear that you're going to be a father, you have to think, am I going to man up and marry this woman now? It's all about doing the right thing by Biblical law. Horrible horrible Old Testament biblical sand people law.

  44. Pithaughn

    Clearly this is the lame stream medias fault. We all know how R's feel about the happy valley, NERVOUS and AWKWARD. After all their mom has one and their dad did you know, kind of sort of did that and and uh hmmeew just stop asking me all these va jay jay related questions , damn, …. LOWER TAXES, INCREASE DEFENSE SPENDING, PRAYER IN SCHOOLS.

  45. PubOption

    Another politician trying to fool us with a combover. Will he be one to introduce the Donald?

  46. TribecaMike

    I lost track of how many times I've been raped by unmarried pregger chicks. Stop it, please!

  47. Negropolis

    No don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t rape.

    They really can't help themselves, can they? Had he stopped a single sentence before uttering that, he'd have gotten away scott-free with this lie.

  48. NVPurple

    Daniel Tosh must be the happiest guy in America. After his turd in the punchbowl joke; a major party has made rape a plank in their platform. No one is paying attention to his sorry humor….

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