DUMB HORRIBLE PEOPLE EVERYWHERE  4:15 pm August 24, 2012

RNC Official Furious At New Mexico Gov Disrespecting General Custer, By Meeting Indians

by Jim Newell

Would easily crush RomneyToday is Wonkette Manifest Destiny history day! Well, there was this General Custer once who got himself and all his men killed after killing a ton of Indians himself. New Mexico GOP lobbyist and prominent local RNC official Pat Rogers remembers this well. It sears his every moment of consciousness. And he is absolutely furious that New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez agreed to meet with American Indians. “The state is going to hell,” Rogers wrote in an email. “Col. Weh [Martinez's 2010 primary opponent] would not have dishonored Col. Custer in this manner.” Uhhh…

From former DC gossip blogger Rob Cappricioso (hi Rob!) at Indian Country Today:

Rogers made the Custer-friendly statement in an e-mail obtained by ProgressNow New Mexico, a liberal advocacy organization that is urging his exit from the RNC. Organizers with the group say his writing was a “tactless and bigoted statement.”

“The state is going to hell,” Rogers wrote in part of the e-mail. “Col. [Allen] Weh would not have dishonored Col. Custer in this manner.” Weh was a Republican candidate for governor of New Mexico in 2010 who ran against Martinez.

The e-mail was sent following a meeting in June between Martinez and the state’s tribes, according to ProgressNow. It was directed to senior members of the governor’s administration. The governor’s office has not responded to requests for comment.

“George Armstrong Custer may be regarded as a kind of military hero by Pat Rogers, but to the Native peoples of America Custer represents the bellicose imperialism that was responsible for the systematic slaughter of American Indians throughout this continent,” according to an e-mail being circulated by ProgressNow.

Rogers is being faced with calls for dismissal from his RNC duties. And that, friends, is the biggest insult to Gen. Custer of all.

[Indian Country Today via LGF]

 

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actor212 August 24, 2012 at 4:17 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Custer lose? I mean, who wants to be associated with a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSER?

SystemError August 24, 2012 at 4:39 pm

Who wants to associated with a loser? Most of the Southern population of the United States.

SorosBot August 24, 2012 at 5:01 pm

And all the idiots who still try to defend the Vietnam war.

WhatTheHeck August 24, 2012 at 4:49 pm

No, he did not lose. He came in second.

Chet Kincaid_ August 24, 2012 at 5:44 pm

He received a glorious Certificate of Participation!

sewollef August 24, 2012 at 4:50 pm

I believe the correct term is annihilated. Meaning, wiped out, totally destroyed.

Lose is too dignified a term for Custer.

Chet Kincaid_ August 24, 2012 at 5:08 pm

Meanwhile, Native Americans, despite all efforts, are still here.

GregComlish August 24, 2012 at 8:16 pm

if by "here" you mean "forced onto a reservation created out of the shittiest land the government could find"

Chet Kincaid_ August 25, 2012 at 1:09 am

I was not aware of that!

It's not the entire story. There are signs of cultural, economic and population resurgence in many native communities. Any glimmerings of such are a defiant middle finger to the memory of Custer.

CindynEncinitas August 24, 2012 at 4:51 pm

I think that's how you can tell that Mr. Rogers might be a redneck…

IonaTrailer August 24, 2012 at 5:02 pm

He's not related to Roy is he?

OT but interesting – today is the anniversary of the eruption that destroyed Pompei.

MissTaken August 24, 2012 at 5:09 pm

8/24/79 NEVAH FURGET!

horsedreamer_1 August 26, 2012 at 10:45 am

Pompei Mayor Rudolphus Iulianus later run for Proconsul on an Empire Security ticket, but his history of wearing women's togas & having a eunech roommate doomed his chance.

ChernobylSoup August 24, 2012 at 5:35 pm

And the 5th anniversary of the degradation of the PLANET Pluto. Can't people see what's happening?!?!

BoatOfVelociraptors August 24, 2012 at 9:23 pm

Neil, much like curiosity, is demonstrating how he rolls.

Callyson August 24, 2012 at 5:09 pm

Mitt Romney's supporters?

Grokenstein August 24, 2012 at 5:57 pm

HE DIDNT LOOSE
HE WAS AMBUSHED BY THE GOTCHA LAMESTREAM MEDIA
BECAUSE EXCEPTIONALISM! YOU STUPID LIBERALS HATE IT
(*rocks back and forth*)
(*starts playing Custer's Revenge*)
(*unzips pants*)
BOOOOOOORN WHITE
AS THE TOPS OF THE MOUNTAINNNNNNS
AS WHITE AS THE FOUNTAINNNNNNS
WHERE "THOSE PEOPLE" CANT DRINK

HistoriCat August 24, 2012 at 9:33 pm

"Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser!"
Patton

Come here a minute August 24, 2012 at 4:18 pm

What a Custerfuck.

Baconzgood August 24, 2012 at 4:25 pm

Great minds. We should hang out and have a beer.

SorosBot August 24, 2012 at 4:30 pm

For that, you need Custer's Revenge.

(Technically NSFW, but it's porn in Atari 2600 graphics so it's not exactly graphic).

actor212 August 24, 2012 at 4:33 pm

I'd never heard of Boonga-Boonga before. I must see if there's one on eBay.

Baconzgood August 24, 2012 at 4:20 pm

Custerfuck?

ChillBill August 24, 2012 at 4:28 pm

Cruster?

OzoneTom August 24, 2012 at 6:24 pm

No, that was she-who-must-not-be-named.

FlownOver August 24, 2012 at 4:20 pm

Another important contribution to the Unified Nutbar Theory that is today's Republican Party.

actor212 August 24, 2012 at 4:29 pm

Creative Unified Nutbar Theory, you mean….

FlownOver August 24, 2012 at 4:35 pm

Thanks, Actor. Any time after noon on any given Friday it's unlikely I'll have any idea what I mean about anything.

ROLLLLLLLLLLLLLL a… nother one…

SkinnyNerd August 24, 2012 at 4:49 pm

Is it possible Republicans are eating/ingesting something that is making them hallucinate that they are in 1840? What the hell is going on?

metamarcisf August 24, 2012 at 4:20 pm

Congratulations, Governor. I'm writing while on break working at one of New Mexico's reservations and, aside from a noon raindance, no one has threatened to scalp me yet.

Dr_Zoidberg August 24, 2012 at 5:02 pm

Hey, it's still early.

prommie August 24, 2012 at 4:20 pm

That the best picture of Custer they could find? Cretinous-looking bastard, isn't he?

Fox E. Puppet August 24, 2012 at 4:39 pm

He looks like he ought to be playing bass in a Southern rock band with a Confederate flag prominently displayed somewhere on his person…

prommie August 24, 2012 at 4:51 pm

Dumb and ugly enough for Lynyrd Skynyrd, you are right about that, and that was the dumbest and ugliest group of skeeveballs ever to walk the planet. Yet they could play and all, which is wierd.

ph7 August 24, 2012 at 5:08 pm

One benefit of dumb and ugly is you have lots of free time to practice in the basement.

Chet Kincaid_ August 24, 2012 at 5:10 pm

You're gonna get spanked.

prommie August 24, 2012 at 5:29 pm

Nah, they're Flarda boys.

FlownOver August 24, 2012 at 5:10 pm

Berry Oakley libel!

ph7 August 24, 2012 at 5:06 pm

I'm pretty sure his genes were passed on to Hank Williams Jr.

UnholyMoses August 24, 2012 at 5:07 pm

Well, the "after" picture really shouldn't be seen prior to eating …

Grokenstein August 24, 2012 at 6:04 pm

MOST FOLK'LL NEVER LOSE A SCALP
BUT THEN AGAIN SOME FOLK'LL

ttommyunger August 24, 2012 at 7:24 pm

Graduated near the bottom of his class at West Point. Was never noted for his thinking but for his bravery and aggressiveness in battle. This goes a long way toward explaining his bloody demise at the hands of a force easily outnumbering his by at least tenfold.

coolhandnuke August 24, 2012 at 4:21 pm

Rogers is a Little Big Man in his twisted world.

FlownOver August 24, 2012 at 4:24 pm

Some days the magic works…

Ruhe August 24, 2012 at 4:26 pm

Thinks he's a scout but really just a mule-skinner?

no_gravity August 24, 2012 at 4:22 pm

I'm going to have to start keeping a spreadsheet.

Tundra Grifter August 24, 2012 at 4:39 pm

ng:

Make sure it's "wide stance."

SorosBot August 24, 2012 at 4:22 pm

What's she going to do next, disrespect the legacy of Torquemada by publicly meeting with Jews?

FlownOver August 24, 2012 at 4:28 pm

Missed a great Godwin opportunity by this much.

SorosBot August 24, 2012 at 4:35 pm

That would have been a little too easy.

actor212 August 24, 2012 at 4:30 pm

We can stop the thread right here.

Lionel[redacted]Esq August 24, 2012 at 4:46 pm

Worse, disrespect Jesus by meeting with the Jews. Or Italians. Take your pick.

Chet Kincaid_ August 24, 2012 at 5:12 pm

I'm lookin' at buying a 2007 Nissan Torquemada, what kind of mileage they get?

BoatOfVelociraptors August 24, 2012 at 9:25 pm

35 years per lash?

Swampgas_Man August 25, 2012 at 2:40 am

The Inquisition, whoa whoa whoa
The Inquisition, here we go
I know you're wishin'
That we'd go awaaaaaay
But the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay!

edgydrifter August 24, 2012 at 4:26 pm

A) Custer was a general, not a colonel at the time of his demise.
B) He was a racist piece of crap, albeit a flamboyantly colorful one.
C) He got all his troops killed and lost the battle.

FAIL. FAIL. FAIL. Pat Rogers is a failophile.

Tundra Grifter August 24, 2012 at 4:31 pm

I believe he was Col. Custer at the time. He'd received a brevet star during the Civil War and another one after. However, at the time of his demise I think that rank is correct.

edgydrifter August 24, 2012 at 4:37 pm

There you go, dishonoring Custer with facts. Traitor.

BlueJoubert August 27, 2012 at 8:19 pm

Looked it up in Wiki. He did have the temorary rank of major general, but reverted back to captain at the end of the civil war.

Tundra Grifter August 28, 2012 at 2:48 pm

BJ:

I believe you'll see that post-Civil War he had various problems and issues, was given another brevet ("battlefield") promotion to General, fell out of favor, worked his way back to active command, and was a Lieut. Col. or Col. at the time he was killed on the hills above the Little Big Horn.

BlueJoubert August 28, 2012 at 2:55 pm

–Apple-Mail-26-653149596 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Groovy, thanks for the clarification.

Baconzgood August 24, 2012 at 4:31 pm

With historical knowlage like that I bet he went to school in Texas.

grex1949 August 24, 2012 at 4:32 pm

Maybe the first hint of Custer's rank would be the, uh, stars on his epaulet? (Thanks for the correction on the rank issue, Tundra. Pretty steep drop back to Col. from Maj.Gen., though.) Pat Rogers is prolly just another chicken-hawk Republican who never served in the military. Just a guess.

SayItWithWookies August 24, 2012 at 4:53 pm

After the decommissioning of troops following Appomattox a lot of officers lost one or more levels in rank, in keeping with military necessity. It's traditional to address someone by the highest rank they attained, however, so while Custer died a colonel, it's appropriate to refer to him now as General Custer.

None of this, however, is meant to detract from Rogers' innate ignorance and boorishness.

kittensdontlie August 24, 2012 at 5:32 pm

Hey, Rogers…Private Custer was an ass.

actor212 August 24, 2012 at 4:36 pm

Col. Custer in the drawing room. With the candlestick.

Boredw/Gravitas August 24, 2012 at 4:47 pm

Excellent!

Mittens Howell, III August 24, 2012 at 4:37 pm

'failophile.'

Sounds like falafel.

Your move, O'Reilly.

ttommyunger August 24, 2012 at 7:26 pm

Not sure the Indians gave his Rank the respect it warranted.

Charlie_Foxtrot August 25, 2012 at 6:53 pm

"For servicemen, ranks are important – they have worked hard and, in many cases, risked their lives, to earn them."

And in Custer's case, got his own and his command's butts shot off.

I'm furious that Rogers would insult Admiral Custer by so carelessly getting his rank wrong.

Baconzgood August 24, 2012 at 4:27 pm

I don't know what I can say about this douch bag. The last post had me at level 12 snark.

OkieDokieDog August 24, 2012 at 4:27 pm

Can't speak for other states, but the Native Indians in Oklahoma are getting their revenge on the white man via smoke shops and casinos.

And Custer was a cunt.

OkieDokieDog August 24, 2012 at 4:30 pm

Oh and – I know of several roads that the Indian tribes have repaved out in my area because the county wouldn't do it. They've also given money to the local school. So take that, superior whitey man.

Graham Cracker August 24, 2012 at 4:38 pm

That's happening here in New Mexico, too. Rogers probably lost big-time at one of the casinos and has been calling on his old hero Custer to revenge him.

Dudleydidwrong August 24, 2012 at 4:53 pm

The Native Peoples of North America: winning back America one casino at a time.

Bezoar August 24, 2012 at 10:35 pm

Cunt libel!!!

Ruhe August 24, 2012 at 4:29 pm

Custer and Weh? Is this some hippy recipe for nine grain bread pudding or something?

Fox E. Puppet August 24, 2012 at 4:29 pm

There's a colonel of truth in Rogers' remarks.

sharethegrief August 24, 2012 at 4:29 pm

I heard the RNC offered to donate some blankets for the meeting.

Mittens Howell, III August 24, 2012 at 4:33 pm

Bam!

Nice one.

Dudleydidwrong August 24, 2012 at 4:47 pm

Like those donated by Lord Jeffrey Amherst, the ones infected with smallpox?

SayItWithWookies August 24, 2012 at 4:30 pm

Pat Rogers should respect the life of Aron Ralston and get trapped in a slot canyon for six days.

Baconzgood August 24, 2012 at 4:33 pm

We CMU grads know how to solve problems yo!

SexySmurf August 24, 2012 at 4:32 pm

Col. [Allen] Weh would not have dishonored Col. Custer in this manner.

Wait until Rogers finds out Gov. Martinez also dishonored Col. Muster by accusing him of murder in the conservatory with the candlestick.

Mittens Howell, III August 24, 2012 at 4:32 pm

Would it help if Martinez asked to see their birth certificates?

docterry6973 August 24, 2012 at 4:32 pm

Say I am the Governor of New Mexico (and start sending me my paychecks). If I meet with a Native American group I am insulting the memory of George Custer? Even though many Native Americans LIVE IN NEW MEXICO????

Leaving aside the argument that Custer is a big enough insult to the memory of Custer, this GOP figure is now demanding that the sitting governor not talk to American Indians? What would the great Col. Weh have done? Rode in at dawn and killed the women and children, like Custer did at Washita?

T3rbo August 24, 2012 at 5:04 pm

because 9/11, that's why

Poindexter718 August 24, 2012 at 5:12 pm

iknowrite? I kept waiting to get to the part of the story where the indians the gov met with were descended from the Sioux band that offed Gen. Yellowhair and they reenacted the battle and scalped him in effigy and the governor then issued a proclamation of apology or somesuch.
Instead, it appears this GOP feck has a problem with an elected official meeting with her constituents–that acknowledging their very existence is somehow an insult to a dude who was keen to murder their entire lot 150 years ago. Passing strange.
I have spoken.

AncienReggie August 24, 2012 at 6:35 pm

Here in Albuquerque we are pretty much surrounded by reservations and pueblos, plus there are a ton of First Americans that live right here in town. Hell, there are Indians all over New Mexico–at least the better parts. This guy Rogers is truly an idiot.

Funny thing, though: the real insult to the Indians is that Gov. Martinez (R-Corp) did meet with them. She was probably on a field trip looking for ways to "trim" education funding and eliminate environmental regulations.

mwittier August 25, 2012 at 12:49 am

Please marry my last few remaining outraged brain cells.

C_R_Trogloraptor August 24, 2012 at 4:33 pm

Manifest Density!

actor212 August 24, 2012 at 4:39 pm

It took three reads to see that.

FlownOver August 24, 2012 at 4:41 pm

***sustained applause***

IonaTrailer August 24, 2012 at 5:29 pm

Well played!

BoatOfVelociraptors August 24, 2012 at 9:28 pm

But did you tip her?

Maman August 24, 2012 at 4:33 pm

I am pretty sure that I drove through the Little Bighorn Battle site in Montana. WTFH is the connection to New Mexico?

kittensdontlie August 24, 2012 at 5:41 pm

To the R-white man, they all look, sound and act alike.

GregComlish August 24, 2012 at 8:17 pm

injuns

Tundra Grifter August 24, 2012 at 4:34 pm

The Custer National Battlefield was probably the only one in the United States named for the loser. Of course, in the white histories it is often The Custer Massacre – not the Battle of the Little Big Horn.

There's a wonderful Flashman book that includes this rather sorry incident.

Additionally, there is substantial evidence a half-white, half-Indian scout, who had served in the US Army, ffought on the side of the Sioux in that Battle.

Among the fallen was Boston Custer, Col. George's younger brother, out West on Summer Holiday from Harvard College.

News that the 7th Cavalry had been wiped out by Indians rather damped festivities in Philadelphia, where they were celebrating the 100th Birthday of the United States of America.

sewollef August 24, 2012 at 5:05 pm

The Custer National Battlefield was probably the only one in the United States named for the loser.

Damn it. History is rarely, if ever, neutral in the retelling…. and is almost always told by the ultimate victors.

Tundra Grifter August 24, 2012 at 7:28 pm

This is certainly true of the Indian Wars. It's the Fetterman Massacre – but the Battle of Wounded Knee.

We often read and hear that the wars in Afghanistan or Iraq are the longest in American history. Well, the Korean "police action" is some sixty years and counting.

And the American war with the Sioux? Say we date it from the mid-Civil War when the Minnesota outbreak took place – up until Wounded Knee.

Overall, our war with the First Americans began about 1622 and I'm not completely sure it's over yet…

Chet Kincaid_ August 24, 2012 at 5:23 pm

Dustin Hoffman was there, also.

MosesInvests August 25, 2012 at 11:28 pm

Battle of the Greasy Grass.

Tundra Grifter August 26, 2012 at 10:28 am

Litte Big Man!

Grief_Lessons August 24, 2012 at 4:35 pm

Remember the Alamo, also.

Maman August 24, 2012 at 4:37 pm

And the Maine!

FlownOver August 24, 2012 at 4:42 pm

And the half gallon of 2%

Veritas78 August 24, 2012 at 7:21 pm

And a pack of smokes. And a scratch ticket.

bobbert August 24, 2012 at 7:29 pm

And the cedar cheese.

MacRaith August 24, 2012 at 4:44 pm

And Los Alamos.

Fox E. Puppet August 24, 2012 at 5:04 pm

Y los alarmistas…

YasserArraFeck August 25, 2012 at 4:02 am

Y Tu Mama Tambien

GregComlish August 24, 2012 at 8:19 pm

Do me a favor and stop reminding me of Los Alamos

Lionel[redacted]Esq August 24, 2012 at 4:47 pm

How dare the Governor of New Mexico disrespect Texas by living in a state called New Mexico?

UnholyMoses August 24, 2012 at 4:50 pm

Why not — Ozzy did.

IonaTrailer August 24, 2012 at 5:30 pm

And petrol at $1.00 a gallon

GunToting[Redacted] August 24, 2012 at 4:36 pm

Custer is a prime example of the fucked-upedness of the military procurement system. Custer's men went into battle with the Springfield 1873 Trapdoor, a single-shot carbine. It was issued because they felt that allowing an enlisted man a multi-shot weapon would lead to a wasting of ammunitions. The "savages" had a mix of Winchester and Henry repeaters. Even though the Springfield has a longer effective range, a hail of lead makes aiming a luxury.

This has been your moment in military fucked-upedness.

prommie August 24, 2012 at 4:53 pm

My dad was always going on about his "Garand." Tell us about that one, gramps!

bobbert August 24, 2012 at 7:36 pm

Prommie, you can't claim firsties on TMBG and call somebody "gramps" on the same day.

ttommyunger August 24, 2012 at 7:30 pm

Hitler applied the same logic in keeping his infantry armed with an 8mm Bolt-Action Rifle for the most part. Lucky for us he was nucking futs, otherwise I'd be tapping this out in German. Also, Custer was outnumbered ten to one, too, as well as.

GunToting[Redacted] August 24, 2012 at 7:56 pm

Good points, all. And, there was speculation that the Springfield would jam upon repeated firing, requiring the shooter to pry the spent cartridge out with a knife (not ideal under the best of circumstances). I own a converted Springfield, which was my grandfather's first gun. It was apparently common to convert these to a trapdoor shotgun.

ttommyunger August 24, 2012 at 8:00 pm

He also stupidly ordered sabers to be stowed, for stealth purposes.

Tundra Grifter August 26, 2012 at 10:28 am

The Zulus wiped out the British army at Isandlwana partly because their cartridges were stored in special crates with heavy straps that required a specific type of screwdriver to open.

I mentioned this to my cousin. He said "I've been there." Facing the Red Army during a Cold War standoff on the border of West and East Germany, he asked his machine gunner if he was ready to rock and roll and the answer was "We can't open the ammuntion boxes."

C_R_Trogloraptor August 24, 2012 at 4:36 pm

Well, Rogers stepped in it now. The RNC's just assigned him to Fort Courage.

Chet Kincaid_ August 24, 2012 at 5:26 pm

Cue Sorosbot and his blatant age-ism!

SexySmurf August 24, 2012 at 4:37 pm

Pat Rogers' Indian name is Sitting Bull Shit.

Or Crazy Horse Shit. Take your pick; I like to give people options.

MaxNeanderthal August 24, 2012 at 5:11 pm

Is he the "man afraid of his horses"?

unclejeems August 25, 2012 at 12:44 am

Dare I say it . . . Shitting Bull?

prommie August 24, 2012 at 4:37 pm

Disrespecting William Calley by meeting with the Mayor of My Lai?

TootsStansbury August 24, 2012 at 4:37 pm

They really do hate on everybody, don't they

not that Dewey August 24, 2012 at 4:40 pm

Allen Weh also gave campaign speeches at a ridiculous Megachurch, and was endorsed by their pastor in (at least) a sermon, yet this church retains their tax-exempt status.

I know, that's not funny.

BlueJoubert August 27, 2012 at 8:34 pm

I am appalled at how many political organizations get no-tax status by pretending to be churches. In fact, the majority of christianist churches these days are nothing more than arms of the republican hate and bigotry machine.

not that Dewey August 27, 2012 at 9:51 pm

It doesn't help that the Teaparty insistence on "SMALL GUBMINT REDUCE SPENDING" creates a double-bind, wherein the IRS lacks the enforcement manpower to investigate these tax-exempt groups, thereby reducing the amount of money coming in, thereby reducing the IRS's ability to enforce tax code, etc etc. The fact that these groups are simultaneously preaching hate is just the gravy.

ManchuCandidate August 24, 2012 at 4:40 pm

"There are not enough Indians in the world to defeat the Seventh Cavalry."
The real stupid shit Custer did/said was shame enough on Custer.

sewollef August 24, 2012 at 5:09 pm

And yet…. apparently there were enough in Montana.

MacRaith August 24, 2012 at 4:42 pm

I have reached the point where I no longer can tell if I'm reading the news or The Onion. Time to quit reading, I guess.

HarryButtle August 24, 2012 at 4:42 pm

My fellow Redskins! Speaking for the Great White Father in Washington and all the American People, let me say we respect you savages for your Native Ability to instantly Adapt and Survive in whatever Godforsaken wilderness we move you to. Out there. Sign here!

FlownOver August 24, 2012 at 4:46 pm

Aw, come on! Call me Eddie!

docterry6973 August 24, 2012 at 5:05 pm

You know, I think we're all bozos on this bus.

bobbert August 24, 2012 at 7:37 pm

<French Horn call>

Guppy August 24, 2012 at 4:43 pm

Rogers is being faced with calls for dismissal from his RNC duties.

So was Akin.

MissTaken August 24, 2012 at 4:43 pm

I'm ashamed that I dishonor Benedict Arnold by speaking to American people.

SorosBot August 24, 2012 at 5:14 pm

You're doing great dishonor to George III there too.

thurufally August 24, 2012 at 4:45 pm

No one dishonored Custer's name more than Custer, a pompous, racist who finished last in his class at West Point. If he were alive today, he'd be the Republican nominee for president.

CindynEncinitas August 24, 2012 at 4:56 pm

And Dubya's BFF!

FlownOver August 24, 2012 at 5:12 pm

And an improvement.

anniegetyerfun August 24, 2012 at 6:35 pm

You sure? I mean, he did serve in the military, and we know how much Republican politicians hate doing that.

BlueJoubert August 27, 2012 at 8:38 pm

No, he would have already cheated his way into the White House for eight years and would now be hiding out in Texas, unable to leave the country for fear of being arrested and put on trial at the Hague, and then imprisoned for life or executed for crimes against humanity.

PeaceWithHonor August 24, 2012 at 4:45 pm

Good to see the Republicans are as well-versed on history as they are on reproductive biology. Bible studies is a push.

SavageDrummer August 24, 2012 at 4:47 pm

Isn't posthumously demoting him from General to Colonel actually a bit more disrespectful?

BlueJoubert August 27, 2012 at 8:40 pm

He resumed his title of Captain at the close of the Civil War. So far as I can tell he never was a colonel and only briefly held the position of Major General (a temporary title called a 'brevet'.)

UnholyMoses August 24, 2012 at 4:48 pm

Manifest Stupidity.

Dudleydidwrong August 24, 2012 at 4:50 pm

Custer's famous last words: "Jesus Christ! Look at all those fucking Indians! Uhhhh…"

Mittens Howell, III August 24, 2012 at 4:55 pm

Texan history-textbook version:

"One day a man named Reagan will come, and you'll all be ashamed of yourselves for hating America."

GhostBuggy August 24, 2012 at 4:50 pm

Generals helping to slaughter a whole race are people too, my friend.

FlownOver August 24, 2012 at 4:50 pm

Wow, what a thread. Haven't seen this much free association since V-J Day in Times Square!

bobbert August 24, 2012 at 7:38 pm

When was this "V-J-J Day?"

FlownOver August 24, 2012 at 10:15 pm

In Times Square it used to be every day – until Bloomberg turned the area into Knott's Berry City.

BlueStateLibel August 24, 2012 at 4:53 pm

Republicans are fast growing out of people to alienate. Who will be left to alienate? Gays, womenz, African-Americans, Hispanics, American Indians, check – am I missing anyone?

FlownOver August 24, 2012 at 4:59 pm

Pretty much sentient beings in general. No need for pigeonholing.

CleverSobriquet August 24, 2012 at 5:31 pm

I thought he was demoted to Col.

PsycWench August 24, 2012 at 5:25 pm

If they alienate overweight people, they'll lose their voting base. At least in the South.

emmelemm August 24, 2012 at 5:29 pm

Jewz. Muslims. Asians. Intellectuals. The handicapped. I'm sure I could think of more…

BlueStateLibel August 24, 2012 at 6:12 pm

Wonkette had a post earlier this week about the wingnut who said edumacting cripples was too expensive … it goes without saying they've alienated Muslims. I'm booking next we see them go after the Jews, Asians and Intellectuals.

reliefsinn August 24, 2012 at 6:33 pm

Don't forget the entire city of Chicago, the "elite" Eastern Seaboard, the inhabitants of "Maatha's Vinyid", those 'Hollywood liberals in lalaland", and all those elitists in New York, who, according to Newt Gingrich, (another failure) "ride on subways". Oh, and all those "snobs" who went to college.

bobbert August 24, 2012 at 7:39 pm

Aliens?

valthemus August 25, 2012 at 2:59 am

Groups on the RNC alienation checklist:

Harry Potter fans. (The books are full of godless, satanic occult evilness and they were written by a foreigner. A foreigner!! )

Joggers. (They often run on roads, sidewalks and in public areas built with tax-payer money. Freeloaders! Leeches!)

Chuck Lorre. (Helped create a show called "The Big Bang Theory" instead of calling it "The 6-Day Cosmic Super-Being Miracle" the way his future theocratic overlords would prefer.)

horsedreamer_1 August 26, 2012 at 10:51 am

& if Stone Temple Pilots ("Big Bang Baby") hadn't died, they would be 1b after Lorre.

ph7 August 24, 2012 at 4:54 pm

“The state is going to hell”

It's touching Arizona. It's a miracle New Mexico has been hell-free this long.

CleverSobriquet August 24, 2012 at 5:36 pm

Between TX and AZ! The resistance is courageous.

Charlie_Foxtrot August 25, 2012 at 7:02 pm

I may be mistaken, but isn't it ironic that "Arizona" is actually adapted from a word in the Navajo language?

It means "as redneck as Alabama but there is no water."

el_donaldo August 24, 2012 at 4:54 pm

Funny what they hang on to, isn't it? It's no longer an insult to General MacArthur when I get into my Subaru and drive away, but Native Americans?!? Still holding a grudge about that resistance to treaty-breaking and land-grabbing?!

And Quebecois? Is the French and Indian War still a sore spot?

savethispatient August 24, 2012 at 4:54 pm

Those damn Native Americans should go back to whatever country they came from!

anniegetyerfun August 24, 2012 at 6:37 pm

Siberia?

Chet Kincaid_ August 24, 2012 at 7:12 pm

Even Siberia goes through the motions. Hold out and hold on!

doloras August 24, 2012 at 9:39 pm

And speaking of free association – we have YES lyrics.

doloras August 24, 2012 at 9:39 pm

Beringia's underwater now.

DahBoner August 24, 2012 at 10:28 pm

"Take America Back" means something to skins…

prommie August 24, 2012 at 4:55 pm

If there was a Nobel Prize for persistence in error, they'd have to give it to the GOP and then just retire it forever.

HarryButtle August 24, 2012 at 4:55 pm

Custer was killed by the Plains tribes (Sioux & Cheyenne), what the fuck does that have to do with the Southwest tribes in NM (Hopi, Navajo, Apache)?

Wait…what am I thinking? Why do I expect logical consistency from this moran?

MaxNeanderthal August 24, 2012 at 5:14 pm

Yeah, the geographical connection between New Mexico and the Dakotas had kind of escaped me also…..

Baconzgood August 24, 2012 at 4:57 pm

Why did Custer hate Hindus so much?

T3rbo August 24, 2012 at 5:05 pm

because 9/11

MissTaken August 24, 2012 at 5:07 pm

That's just Sikh.

FlownOver August 24, 2012 at 5:14 pm

OMMMMMMMMM;

OMMMMMMMMM;

Range

bobbert August 24, 2012 at 7:41 pm

ISWYST

Chet Kincaid_ August 24, 2012 at 5:30 pm

It's just like how I've often wondered why Hindus are so dedicated to the music of George Harrison.

doloras August 24, 2012 at 9:39 pm

They charged him $8 for a quart of milk at the Kwik-E-Mart?

calliecallie August 24, 2012 at 4:58 pm

I am pretty sure the Indians in New Mexico are not even the same TRIBE as the Indians who fought with Custer at Little Big Horn. Native Americans take that tribal nation stuff rather seriously.

Steverino247 August 24, 2012 at 5:19 pm

You're right on both counts. Different tribes. They do take that seriously, as seriously as going into an Irish Pub wearing an orange shirt on St. Patrick's Day would be taken seriously.

IonaTrailer August 24, 2012 at 5:36 pm

What's green and comes out in the spring?

Pati O' Furniture.

CleverSobriquet August 24, 2012 at 5:38 pm

Gay Paddy O'Furniture

DahBoner August 24, 2012 at 10:26 pm

"All casino gift shops look alike"

Jadetiger79 August 25, 2012 at 12:32 am

YES WE DO TAKE IT SERIOUS BECAUSE IT'S ALL WE HAVE LEFT

Fox E. Puppet August 24, 2012 at 4:59 pm

So he hates Martinez & Janice Arnold Jones… any other GOP women need reminding that their party is waging a War Against Women?

RadioBowels August 24, 2012 at 5:00 pm

Has anyone ever summed it up better than D. Boon and the Minutemen In the Punch Line?

I believe when they found the body of general george a.
custer quilled like a porcupine with indian arrows, he didn't
die with any honor, any dignity, nor any valor.
I wouldn't doubt when they found george a. custer
an american general patriot and
indian fighter, he died with shit in his pants.

Rotundo_ August 24, 2012 at 6:26 pm

No.
Thanks for pointing me in the band's direction. I checked the band out on YouTube, Boon's passing was a major loss to the music world from what I saw of the band. I would have loved to catch one of their shows.

RadioBowels August 24, 2012 at 10:27 pm

One of the great under appreciated guitarists of all time. And the band was totally political. When Corona was hijacked by Jackass they lopped off the lyrics — sadly, because I have quoted them here before. We need more political music nowadays. But these kids today.

Poindexter718 August 24, 2012 at 5:01 pm

Forget Cols. Custer and Wey; hows about paying some lip service to Col. Angus?

UnholyMoses August 24, 2012 at 5:05 pm

COL. CLINK LIBEL!!

Ya know, because the GOP is just like …

Oh, nevermind.

viennawoods13 August 25, 2012 at 12:49 am

I see what you did there.

pinkocommi August 24, 2012 at 5:02 pm

Can you believe the audacity of Native Americans wanting to meet with elected officials?…. It is like they think they were here first.

docterry6973 August 24, 2012 at 5:08 pm

Jeez, they act like the own the place.

Barrelhse August 24, 2012 at 6:26 pm

Not satisfied with the "steenking desert" we gave them? Ingrates.
Next thing, they'll want to play at the famous Trail of Tears Golf Course.

T3rbo August 24, 2012 at 5:02 pm

What would cause this nimrod to have such strong feelings about Custer? Is this some form of Homeland Pride I missed out on? I really had no idea that the RNC included a "Fuck Native Americans" wing that they had to pander to. Fun fact: Little Big Horn was in Montana, and almost all of the people who slaughtered Custer's troops are dead now. I think?

BornInATrailer August 24, 2012 at 5:04 pm

Can we give the RNC some "Don't Tread On Me" flags infected with smallpox?

Steverino247 August 24, 2012 at 5:39 pm

Smallpox is gone, thanks to immunization. However, you could give them some of Jenny McCarthy's rantings about vaccines…

valthemus August 25, 2012 at 3:15 am

What about a little herpes? American Indians could substitute the linens at RNC-populated hotels with herpes-ridden blankets. Of course, it's likely the conventioneers will be bringing their own viruses and won't need any extra.

pinkocommi August 24, 2012 at 5:05 pm

This asswipe realizes that the actual guys who killed Custer are dead now, right?. Oh I we are supposed to dislike all Native Americans forever. For standing their ground, I mean.. being brown.

Chow Yun Flat August 24, 2012 at 5:07 pm

Colonel Weh? More like Colonel W-A-A-A-H.

slowhansolo August 25, 2012 at 3:46 am

Dammit the Weh-Wah thing stuck in my head through all this reading, until … DASHED.

MissTaken August 24, 2012 at 5:13 pm

I like Wonkette Manifest Destiny Day. Makes me forget that I have a vagina GOP men want to legislatively rape, legitimately.

OneYieldRegular August 24, 2012 at 5:17 pm

Rogers is being faced with calls for dismissal from his RNC duties

Wait, you mean attacking minorities isn't part of his RNC duties?

Chet Kincaid_ August 24, 2012 at 5:19 pm

"It dishonors the memory of Custer not to order the National Guard to roll on those savage New Mexico Indians at dawn!! Well, what do you expect from a damned Mexican."

SorosBot August 24, 2012 at 5:20 pm

So I guess this dick thought Kirk dishonored his son David when he not only talked with Klingons, but saved the Khittomer Accords that brought peace between them and the Federation.

T3rbo August 24, 2012 at 6:02 pm

I'm glad you said what everyone else was thinking. What a relief…

Steverino247 August 24, 2012 at 5:22 pm

COL. Guey? As in "pinche guey?"

IonaTrailer August 24, 2012 at 5:38 pm

Or pinche pendejo

monthlykos August 24, 2012 at 5:24 pm

Reminds me of the old joke: General Custer to his men: "The bad news is that we are all going to be killed. The good news is that we won't have to ride back across South Dakota."

MacRaith August 24, 2012 at 5:31 pm

Fun but largely irrelevant fact: According to IMDB, among the many actors who have played George Armstrong Custer are Errol Flynn, Ronald Reagan and Leslie Nielsen.

ttommyunger August 24, 2012 at 7:34 pm

The most accurate portrayal: "Little Big Man".

Steverino247 August 24, 2012 at 5:35 pm

OK, as a former member of the 7th United States Cavalry, let me join in the fun. For the facts about Major General (Brevet rank, LtCol active duty rank) Custer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Armstrong_Cus

Pretty balanced write up. He clearly fucked up by attacking before other units arrived. Had he waited, the Sioux would have been toast and we would all be making fun of somebody else right now. However, the man made his name by being bold. His men arguably saved Meade from J.E.B. Stuart's cavalry at Gettysburg and certainly hastened the surrender of Lee by ruthlessly pursuing the Army of Northern Virginia on the retreat from Richmond. His wife also embellished the facts and nobody wanted to be rude to a widow, much like many people play nice today with Nancy Reagan. After she dies, watch St. Ronnie lose the halo.

Also, there were Indian tribes back then who made a pretty good living from raiding their neighbors, usually other Indian tribes. Those tribal victims often fought with or scouted for, Federal troops like Custer's. Saying all the Indians were "good" OR "bad" doesn't correctly explain the situation out there in 1876. Nomadic peoples are usually not "good neighbors" in the traditional sense. They do what they need to do to survive.

Now, back to this idiot Republican Rogers. Dumb as a bunch of rocks.

Chet Kincaid_ August 24, 2012 at 5:47 pm

"Also, there were Indian tribes back then who made a pretty good living from raiding their neighbors, usually other Indian tribes. Those tribal victims often fought with or scouted for, Federal troops like Custer's. Saying all the Indians were "good" OR "bad" doesn't correctly explain the situation out there in 1876. Nomadic peoples are usually not "good neighbors" in the traditional sense. They do what they need to do to survive."

What does that explain or justify?

MadBrahms August 24, 2012 at 6:59 pm

(Because I am a nerdy academic I have some sort of compulsion to write a serious post here, so I apologize for the lack of jokes about balls). I think it's important to ask that question. Of course white people have no monopoly on cruelty or greed, but that in and of itself doesn't really explain anything. Since we're still fighting brown people whose history we seem to have conveniently forgotten, we need to scrutinize 'cultural' explanations.

By the 18th century, massive population shifts had occurred across the continent. Much of this was due to the combination of new diseases and proxy wars between colonial powers that armed tribes against one another; the introduction of horses also played an important role in the American West. "Nomadic" Plains Indians were not always so, nor were they even necessarily from the plains. Their wars against each other were frequently instigated by the expanding United States (and Mexico) and in other cases were the result of forced displacement or the domino effect of colonial wars. The similarities to our contemporary Land Wars in Asia are worth thinking through. Anyway. I'm done being all serious. Time to go back to Newell's thread about cocks and pants-pooping.

Steverino247 August 24, 2012 at 8:35 pm

It's also hard to make a serious point here (especially with the word limit and a lack of real desire) when the issue really is about how incredibly stupid.and ignorant Rogers is. Besides, go far enough back in time, everybody's an immigrant to the Americas. If you want a real asshole where Indians are concerned, you have to go directly to Hernan Cortes. Compared to him, Custer was an amateur.

Chet Kincaid_ August 25, 2012 at 1:15 am

"Besides, go far enough back in time, everybody's an immigrant to the Americas."

Are you delegitimizing Native American claims to this continent? (You wrote it, I'm just asking questions.)

Doktor Zoom August 24, 2012 at 5:39 pm

Is it even worth mentioning that Custer was wiped out by Lakota, Northern Cheyenne, and Arapaho in Montana, and Susana Martinez was meeting with members of New Mexico tribes–Navajo, Apache, Pueblo, Hopi, etc?

Nahhhhhhhhhhhh

a_pink_poodle August 24, 2012 at 5:56 pm

He wants to surrender to the people we took their land from in the first place! This is an injustice!

Antispandex August 24, 2012 at 6:08 pm

“tactless and bigoted statement.”

I'm not getting what the problem is here. It's the G.O.P. Of course it's tactless and bigoted! It's what they do best, and you need to stick to what you are good at.

Barrelhse August 24, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Barrelhse August 24, 2012 at 6:21 pm

Wait a minute… I've had a few minutes to digest this and I am absolutely dumbfounded by the profound depth of ignorance displayed (once again) by the GOP. If that party wins I will seriously consider leaving this ship of fools.

pdiddycornchips August 24, 2012 at 7:05 pm

In a related note, Mr. Rogers went on to say he hoped his fellow Republicans will sign his petition to have May the first officially recognized as Pol Pot Day.

owhatever August 24, 2012 at 7:09 pm

In Bible-based schools, Custer wins.

ttommyunger August 24, 2012 at 7:38 pm

The Right's irrational fear of the Browns persists to this day. As part Native American, I can personally attest to the fact that their women crave and their men fear my Scrotum Pole.

clblabin August 24, 2012 at 8:11 pm

So where did the Custer thing come from? Is it his birthday or something, and so you're not allowed to be nice to the Injuns out of respect? Or does this guy's mind just automatically go to Custer? Maybe Custer a big weird hero in the tea party for some reason, but I've never heard of that.

GregComlish August 24, 2012 at 8:25 pm

Not entirely Custer's fault that he lost. Custer relied on data that showed the vast majority of the Indian population had already been transferred to reservations. He didn't realize the data had been doctored by private government contractors. The Halliburtons of his era got paid by the federal government for each person they resettled onto reservations. Contractors wildly inflated their claims to rake in the profits. But some dipshit in the government treated the claims as if they were credible and passed them off as actionable military intelligence.

Steverino247 August 24, 2012 at 8:37 pm

That will ruin your day, it will.

neiltheblaze August 24, 2012 at 9:59 pm

Wasn't Custer a conniving careerist and homicidal glory whore?

Our Native American brothers saved us from experiencing President Custer! We owe our Red Brothers our thanks and appreciation.

DahBoner August 24, 2012 at 10:24 pm

The state is going to hell

Nah, they don't have to.

Texans pretty much come to them…

nowave August 24, 2012 at 11:39 pm

Custer committed suicide.

BZ1 August 25, 2012 at 1:16 am

Little known fact, Major Reno and Captain Benteen's troops largely survived the Battle of Little Big Horn, Reno was court martialed, mainly for surviving.

oldedinvn August 25, 2012 at 1:57 am

Imagine the outrage if the gov. met & talked to blahs.

slowhansolo August 25, 2012 at 3:44 am

Yes, battle brevet, versus quiet time colonel, versus casual genocide.

arihaya August 25, 2012 at 7:03 am

Custer was a complicated man,

On one hand, he is a Union general who kicked those Southern Rebels' asses for good.

On the other hand, he was a racist who thought Indian Wars was like a deer-hunting season.

CrunchyKnee August 25, 2012 at 10:55 am

General George A Custer, American hero, he died with shit in his pants.

MrsConclusion August 25, 2012 at 11:22 am

"…to the Native peoples of America Custer represents the bellicose imperialism that was responsible for the systematic slaughter of American Indians throughout this continent…"

Let's not bicker and argue over who systematically slaughtered who.

gurukalehuru August 25, 2012 at 4:29 pm

Vanilla Custer. mmmmmmmmm.

horsedreamer_1 August 26, 2012 at 10:56 am

I'll give Rogers one bit of credit: I thought he was going to go after Martinez for shaming the brave Rebs who fought at Glorieta Pass in an effort to extend the Strict Constructionist South to the Pacific.

Chet Kincaid_ August 24, 2012 at 5:38 pm

"Let's write this song pretending to be from Alabama" isn't usually a great career move, but I guess it worked for them.

An_Outhouse August 24, 2012 at 9:18 pm

and the cakes we like

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