Would easily crush RomneyToday is Wonkette Manifest Destiny history day! Well, there was this General Custer once who got himself and all his men killed after killing a ton of Indians himself. New Mexico GOP lobbyist and prominent local RNC official Pat Rogers remembers this well. It sears his every moment of consciousness. And he is absolutely furious that New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez agreed to meet with American Indians. “The state is going to hell,” Rogers wrote in an email. “Col. Weh [Martinez’s 2010 primary opponent] would not have dishonored Col. Custer in this manner.” Uhhh…

From former DC gossip blogger Rob Cappricioso (hi Rob!) at Indian Country Today:

Rogers made the Custer-friendly statement in an e-mail obtained by ProgressNow New Mexico, a liberal advocacy organization that is urging his exit from the RNC. Organizers with the group say his writing was a “tactless and bigoted statement.”

“The state is going to hell,” Rogers wrote in part of the e-mail. “Col. [Allen] Weh would not have dishonored Col. Custer in this manner.” Weh was a Republican candidate for governor of New Mexico in 2010 who ran against Martinez.

The e-mail was sent following a meeting in June between Martinez and the state’s tribes, according to ProgressNow. It was directed to senior members of the governor’s administration. The governor’s office has not responded to requests for comment.

“George Armstrong Custer may be regarded as a kind of military hero by Pat Rogers, but to the Native peoples of America Custer represents the bellicose imperialism that was responsible for the systematic slaughter of American Indians throughout this continent,” according to an e-mail being circulated by ProgressNow.

Rogers is being faced with calls for dismissal from his RNC duties. And that, friends, is the biggest insult to Gen. Custer of all.

[Indian Country Today via LGF]

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  • Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Custer lose? I mean, who wants to be associated with a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSER?

    • SystemError

      Who wants to associated with a loser? Most of the Southern population of the United States.

      • SorosBot

        And all the idiots who still try to defend the Vietnam war.

    • WhatTheHeck

      No, he did not lose. He came in second.

      • He received a glorious Certificate of Participation!

    • sewollef

      I believe the correct term is annihilated. Meaning, wiped out, totally destroyed.

      Lose is too dignified a term for Custer.

      • Meanwhile, Native Americans, despite all efforts, are still here.

        • GregComlish

          if by "here" you mean "forced onto a reservation created out of the shittiest land the government could find"

          • I was not aware of that!

            It's not the entire story. There are signs of cultural, economic and population resurgence in many native communities. Any glimmerings of such are a defiant middle finger to the memory of Custer.

    • CindynEncinitas

      I think that's how you can tell that Mr. Rogers might be a redneck…

      • IonaTrailer

        He's not related to Roy is he?

        OT but interesting – today is the anniversary of the eruption that destroyed Pompei.

        • MissTaken

          8/24/79 NEVAH FURGET!

          • horsedreamer_1

            Pompei Mayor Rudolphus Iulianus later run for Proconsul on an Empire Security ticket, but his history of wearing women's togas & having a eunech roommate doomed his chance.

        • ChernobylSoup

          And the 5th anniversary of the degradation of the PLANET Pluto. Can't people see what's happening?!?!

          • BoatOfVelociraptors

            Neil, much like curiosity, is demonstrating how he rolls.

    • Callyson

      Mitt Romney's supporters?

    • Grokenstein

      (*rocks back and forth*)
      (*starts playing Custer's Revenge*)
      (*unzips pants*)

    • HistoriCat

      "Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser!"

  • Come here a minute

    What a Custerfuck.

    • Baconzgood

      Great minds. We should hang out and have a beer.

    • SorosBot

      For that, you need Custer's Revenge.

      (Technically NSFW, but it's porn in Atari 2600 graphics so it's not exactly graphic).

      • I'd never heard of Boonga-Boonga before. I must see if there's one on eBay.

  • Baconzgood


    • Cruster?

    • OzoneTom

      No, that was she-who-must-not-be-named.

  • Another important contribution to the Unified Nutbar Theory that is today's Republican Party.

    • Creative Unified Nutbar Theory, you mean….

      • Thanks, Actor. Any time after noon on any given Friday it's unlikely I'll have any idea what I mean about anything.

        ROLLLLLLLLLLLLLL a… nother one…

    • SkinnyNerd

      Is it possible Republicans are eating/ingesting something that is making them hallucinate that they are in 1840? What the hell is going on?

  • metamarcisf

    Congratulations, Governor. I'm writing while on break working at one of New Mexico's reservations and, aside from a noon raindance, no one has threatened to scalp me yet.

    • Dr_Zoidberg

      Hey, it's still early.

  • prommie

    That the best picture of Custer they could find? Cretinous-looking bastard, isn't he?

    • Fox E. Puppet

      He looks like he ought to be playing bass in a Southern rock band with a Confederate flag prominently displayed somewhere on his person…

      • prommie

        Dumb and ugly enough for Lynyrd Skynyrd, you are right about that, and that was the dumbest and ugliest group of skeeveballs ever to walk the planet. Yet they could play and all, which is wierd.

        • ph7

          One benefit of dumb and ugly is you have lots of free time to practice in the basement.

        • You're gonna get spanked.

          • prommie

            Nah, they're Flarda boys.

          • "Let's write this song pretending to be from Alabama" isn't usually a great career move, but I guess it worked for them.

      • Berry Oakley libel!

    • ph7

      I'm pretty sure his genes were passed on to Hank Williams Jr.

    • UnholyMoses

      Well, the "after" picture really shouldn't be seen prior to eating …

    • Grokenstein


    • ttommyunger

      Graduated near the bottom of his class at West Point. Was never noted for his thinking but for his bravery and aggressiveness in battle. This goes a long way toward explaining his bloody demise at the hands of a force easily outnumbering his by at least tenfold.

  • coolhandnuke

    Rogers is a Little Big Man in his twisted world.

    • Some days the magic works…

    • Ruhe

      Thinks he's a scout but really just a mule-skinner?

  • no_gravity

    I'm going to have to start keeping a spreadsheet.

    • Tundra Grifter


      Make sure it's "wide stance."

  • SorosBot

    What's she going to do next, disrespect the legacy of Torquemada by publicly meeting with Jews?

    • Missed a great Godwin opportunity by this much.

      • SorosBot

        That would have been a little too easy.

    • We can stop the thread right here.

    • Worse, disrespect Jesus by meeting with the Jews. Or Italians. Take your pick.

    • I'm lookin' at buying a 2007 Nissan Torquemada, what kind of mileage they get?

      • BoatOfVelociraptors

        35 years per lash?

      • Swampgas_Man

        The Inquisition, whoa whoa whoa
        The Inquisition, here we go
        I know you're wishin'
        That we'd go awaaaaaay
        But the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay!

  • edgydrifter

    A) Custer was a general, not a colonel at the time of his demise.
    B) He was a racist piece of crap, albeit a flamboyantly colorful one.
    C) He got all his troops killed and lost the battle.

    FAIL. FAIL. FAIL. Pat Rogers is a failophile.

    • Tundra Grifter

      I believe he was Col. Custer at the time. He'd received a brevet star during the Civil War and another one after. However, at the time of his demise I think that rank is correct.

      • edgydrifter

        There you go, dishonoring Custer with facts. Traitor.

      • BlueJoubert

        Looked it up in Wiki. He did have the temorary rank of major general, but reverted back to captain at the end of the civil war.

        • Tundra Grifter


          I believe you'll see that post-Civil War he had various problems and issues, was given another brevet ("battlefield") promotion to General, fell out of favor, worked his way back to active command, and was a Lieut. Col. or Col. at the time he was killed on the hills above the Little Big Horn.

          • BlueJoubert

            –Apple-Mail-26-653149596 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Groovy, thanks for the clarification.

    • Baconzgood

      With historical knowlage like that I bet he went to school in Texas.

    • grex1949

      Maybe the first hint of Custer's rank would be the, uh, stars on his epaulet? (Thanks for the correction on the rank issue, Tundra. Pretty steep drop back to Col. from Maj.Gen., though.) Pat Rogers is prolly just another chicken-hawk Republican who never served in the military. Just a guess.

      • After the decommissioning of troops following Appomattox a lot of officers lost one or more levels in rank, in keeping with military necessity. It's traditional to address someone by the highest rank they attained, however, so while Custer died a colonel, it's appropriate to refer to him now as General Custer.

        None of this, however, is meant to detract from Rogers' innate ignorance and boorishness.

        • kittensdontlie

          Hey, Rogers…Private Custer was an ass.

    • Col. Custer in the drawing room. With the candlestick.

      • Boredw/Gravitas


    • Mittens Howell, III


      Sounds like falafel.

      Your move, O'Reilly.

    • ttommyunger

      Not sure the Indians gave his Rank the respect it warranted.

    • Charlie_Foxtrot

      "For servicemen, ranks are important – they have worked hard and, in many cases, risked their lives, to earn them."

      And in Custer's case, got his own and his command's butts shot off.

      I'm furious that Rogers would insult Admiral Custer by so carelessly getting his rank wrong.

  • Baconzgood

    I don't know what I can say about this douch bag. The last post had me at level 12 snark.

  • OkieDokieDog

    Can't speak for other states, but the Native Indians in Oklahoma are getting their revenge on the white man via smoke shops and casinos.

    And Custer was a cunt.

    • OkieDokieDog

      Oh and – I know of several roads that the Indian tribes have repaved out in my area because the county wouldn't do it. They've also given money to the local school. So take that, superior whitey man.

    • Graham Cracker

      That's happening here in New Mexico, too. Rogers probably lost big-time at one of the casinos and has been calling on his old hero Custer to revenge him.

    • Dudleydidwrong

      The Native Peoples of North America: winning back America one casino at a time.

    • Bezoar

      Cunt libel!!!

  • Ruhe

    Custer and Weh? Is this some hippy recipe for nine grain bread pudding or something?

  • Fox E. Puppet

    There's a colonel of truth in Rogers' remarks.

  • sharethegrief

    I heard the RNC offered to donate some blankets for the meeting.

    • Mittens Howell, III


      Nice one.

    • Dudleydidwrong

      Like those donated by Lord Jeffrey Amherst, the ones infected with smallpox?

  • Pat Rogers should respect the life of Aron Ralston and get trapped in a slot canyon for six days.

    • Baconzgood

      We CMU grads know how to solve problems yo!

  • SexySmurf

    Col. [Allen] Weh would not have dishonored Col. Custer in this manner.

    Wait until Rogers finds out Gov. Martinez also dishonored Col. Muster by accusing him of murder in the conservatory with the candlestick.

  • Mittens Howell, III

    Would it help if Martinez asked to see their birth certificates?

  • docterry6973

    Say I am the Governor of New Mexico (and start sending me my paychecks). If I meet with a Native American group I am insulting the memory of George Custer? Even though many Native Americans LIVE IN NEW MEXICO????

    Leaving aside the argument that Custer is a big enough insult to the memory of Custer, this GOP figure is now demanding that the sitting governor not talk to American Indians? What would the great Col. Weh have done? Rode in at dawn and killed the women and children, like Custer did at Washita?

    • T3rbo

      because 9/11, that's why

    • Poindexter718

      iknowrite? I kept waiting to get to the part of the story where the indians the gov met with were descended from the Sioux band that offed Gen. Yellowhair and they reenacted the battle and scalped him in effigy and the governor then issued a proclamation of apology or somesuch.
      Instead, it appears this GOP feck has a problem with an elected official meeting with her constituents–that acknowledging their very existence is somehow an insult to a dude who was keen to murder their entire lot 150 years ago. Passing strange.
      I have spoken.

    • AncienReggie

      Here in Albuquerque we are pretty much surrounded by reservations and pueblos, plus there are a ton of First Americans that live right here in town. Hell, there are Indians all over New Mexico–at least the better parts. This guy Rogers is truly an idiot.

      Funny thing, though: the real insult to the Indians is that Gov. Martinez (R-Corp) did meet with them. She was probably on a field trip looking for ways to "trim" education funding and eliminate environmental regulations.

    • Please marry my last few remaining outraged brain cells.

  • C_R_Trogloraptor

    Manifest Density!

    • It took three reads to see that.

    • ***sustained applause***

      • IonaTrailer

        Well played!

    • BoatOfVelociraptors

      But did you tip her?

  • I am pretty sure that I drove through the Little Bighorn Battle site in Montana. WTFH is the connection to New Mexico?

    • kittensdontlie

      To the R-white man, they all look, sound and act alike.

    • GregComlish


  • Tundra Grifter

    The Custer National Battlefield was probably the only one in the United States named for the loser. Of course, in the white histories it is often The Custer Massacre – not the Battle of the Little Big Horn.

    There's a wonderful Flashman book that includes this rather sorry incident.

    Additionally, there is substantial evidence a half-white, half-Indian scout, who had served in the US Army, ffought on the side of the Sioux in that Battle.

    Among the fallen was Boston Custer, Col. George's younger brother, out West on Summer Holiday from Harvard College.

    News that the 7th Cavalry had been wiped out by Indians rather damped festivities in Philadelphia, where they were celebrating the 100th Birthday of the United States of America.

    • sewollef

      The Custer National Battlefield was probably the only one in the United States named for the loser.

      Damn it. History is rarely, if ever, neutral in the retelling…. and is almost always told by the ultimate victors.

      • Tundra Grifter

        This is certainly true of the Indian Wars. It's the Fetterman Massacre – but the Battle of Wounded Knee.

        We often read and hear that the wars in Afghanistan or Iraq are the longest in American history. Well, the Korean "police action" is some sixty years and counting.

        And the American war with the Sioux? Say we date it from the mid-Civil War when the Minnesota outbreak took place – up until Wounded Knee.

        Overall, our war with the First Americans began about 1622 and I'm not completely sure it's over yet…

    • Dustin Hoffman was there, also.

    • MosesInvests

      Battle of the Greasy Grass.

      • Tundra Grifter

        Litte Big Man!

  • Grief_Lessons

    Remember the Alamo, also.

    • And the Maine!

      • And the half gallon of 2%

        • Veritas78

          And a pack of smokes. And a scratch ticket.

          • bobbert

            And the cedar cheese.

          • An_Outhouse

            and the cakes we like

    • MacRaith

      And Los Alamos.

      • Fox E. Puppet

        Y los alarmistas…

        • YasserArraFeck

          Y Tu Mama Tambien

      • GregComlish

        Do me a favor and stop reminding me of Los Alamos

    • How dare the Governor of New Mexico disrespect Texas by living in a state called New Mexico?

    • UnholyMoses

      Why not — Ozzy did.

    • IonaTrailer

      And petrol at $1.00 a gallon

  • GunToting[Redacted]

    Custer is a prime example of the fucked-upedness of the military procurement system. Custer's men went into battle with the Springfield 1873 Trapdoor, a single-shot carbine. It was issued because they felt that allowing an enlisted man a multi-shot weapon would lead to a wasting of ammunitions. The "savages" had a mix of Winchester and Henry repeaters. Even though the Springfield has a longer effective range, a hail of lead makes aiming a luxury.

    This has been your moment in military fucked-upedness.

    • prommie

      My dad was always going on about his "Garand." Tell us about that one, gramps!

      • bobbert

        Prommie, you can't claim firsties on TMBG and call somebody "gramps" on the same day.

    • ttommyunger

      Hitler applied the same logic in keeping his infantry armed with an 8mm Bolt-Action Rifle for the most part. Lucky for us he was nucking futs, otherwise I'd be tapping this out in German. Also, Custer was outnumbered ten to one, too, as well as.

      • GunToting[Redacted]

        Good points, all. And, there was speculation that the Springfield would jam upon repeated firing, requiring the shooter to pry the spent cartridge out with a knife (not ideal under the best of circumstances). I own a converted Springfield, which was my grandfather's first gun. It was apparently common to convert these to a trapdoor shotgun.

        • ttommyunger

          He also stupidly ordered sabers to be stowed, for stealth purposes.

    • Tundra Grifter

      The Zulus wiped out the British army at Isandlwana partly because their cartridges were stored in special crates with heavy straps that required a specific type of screwdriver to open.

      I mentioned this to my cousin. He said "I've been there." Facing the Red Army during a Cold War standoff on the border of West and East Germany, he asked his machine gunner if he was ready to rock and roll and the answer was "We can't open the ammuntion boxes."

  • C_R_Trogloraptor

    Well, Rogers stepped in it now. The RNC's just assigned him to Fort Courage.

  • SexySmurf

    Pat Rogers' Indian name is Sitting Bull Shit.

    Or Crazy Horse Shit. Take your pick; I like to give people options.

    • MaxNeanderthal

      Is he the "man afraid of his horses"?

    • unclejeems

      Dare I say it . . . Shitting Bull?

  • prommie

    Disrespecting William Calley by meeting with the Mayor of My Lai?

  • TootsStansbury

    They really do hate on everybody, don't they

  • not that Dewey

    Allen Weh also gave campaign speeches at a ridiculous Megachurch, and was endorsed by their pastor in (at least) a sermon, yet this church retains their tax-exempt status.

    I know, that's not funny.

    • BlueJoubert

      I am appalled at how many political organizations get no-tax status by pretending to be churches. In fact, the majority of christianist churches these days are nothing more than arms of the republican hate and bigotry machine.

      • not that Dewey

        It doesn't help that the Teaparty insistence on "SMALL GUBMINT REDUCE SPENDING" creates a double-bind, wherein the IRS lacks the enforcement manpower to investigate these tax-exempt groups, thereby reducing the amount of money coming in, thereby reducing the IRS's ability to enforce tax code, etc etc. The fact that these groups are simultaneously preaching hate is just the gravy.

  • "There are not enough Indians in the world to defeat the Seventh Cavalry."
    The real stupid shit Custer did/said was shame enough on Custer.

    • sewollef

      And yet…. apparently there were enough in Montana.

  • MacRaith

    I have reached the point where I no longer can tell if I'm reading the news or The Onion. Time to quit reading, I guess.

  • HarryButtle

    My fellow Redskins! Speaking for the Great White Father in Washington and all the American People, let me say we respect you savages for your Native Ability to instantly Adapt and Survive in whatever Godforsaken wilderness we move you to. Out there. Sign here!

    • Aw, come on! Call me Eddie!

    • docterry6973

      You know, I think we're all bozos on this bus.

    • bobbert

      <French Horn call>

  • Guppy

    Rogers is being faced with calls for dismissal from his RNC duties.

    So was Akin.

  • MissTaken

    I'm ashamed that I dishonor Benedict Arnold by speaking to American people.

    • SorosBot

      You're doing great dishonor to George III there too.

  • thurufally

    No one dishonored Custer's name more than Custer, a pompous, racist who finished last in his class at West Point. If he were alive today, he'd be the Republican nominee for president.

    • CindynEncinitas

      And Dubya's BFF!

    • And an improvement.

    • anniegetyerfun

      You sure? I mean, he did serve in the military, and we know how much Republican politicians hate doing that.

    • BlueJoubert

      No, he would have already cheated his way into the White House for eight years and would now be hiding out in Texas, unable to leave the country for fear of being arrested and put on trial at the Hague, and then imprisoned for life or executed for crimes against humanity.

  • PeaceWithHonor

    Good to see the Republicans are as well-versed on history as they are on reproductive biology. Bible studies is a push.

  • SavageDrummer

    Isn't posthumously demoting him from General to Colonel actually a bit more disrespectful?

    • BlueJoubert

      He resumed his title of Captain at the close of the Civil War. So far as I can tell he never was a colonel and only briefly held the position of Major General (a temporary title called a 'brevet'.)

  • UnholyMoses

    Manifest Stupidity.

  • Dudleydidwrong

    Custer's famous last words: "Jesus Christ! Look at all those fucking Indians! Uhhhh…"

    • Mittens Howell, III

      Texan history-textbook version:

      "One day a man named Reagan will come, and you'll all be ashamed of yourselves for hating America."

  • GhostBuggy

    Generals helping to slaughter a whole race are people too, my friend.

  • Wow, what a thread. Haven't seen this much free association since V-J Day in Times Square!

    • bobbert

      When was this "V-J-J Day?"

      • In Times Square it used to be every day – until Bloomberg turned the area into Knott's Berry City.

  • BlueStateLibel

    Republicans are fast growing out of people to alienate. Who will be left to alienate? Gays, womenz, African-Americans, Hispanics, American Indians, check – am I missing anyone?

    • Pretty much sentient beings in general. No need for pigeonholing.

      • CleverSobriquet

        I thought he was demoted to Col.

    • PsycWench

      If they alienate overweight people, they'll lose their voting base. At least in the South.

    • emmelemm

      Jewz. Muslims. Asians. Intellectuals. The handicapped. I'm sure I could think of more…

      • BlueStateLibel

        Wonkette had a post earlier this week about the wingnut who said edumacting cripples was too expensive … it goes without saying they've alienated Muslims. I'm booking next we see them go after the Jews, Asians and Intellectuals.

        • reliefsinn

          Don't forget the entire city of Chicago, the "elite" Eastern Seaboard, the inhabitants of "Maatha's Vinyid", those 'Hollywood liberals in lalaland", and all those elitists in New York, who, according to Newt Gingrich, (another failure) "ride on subways". Oh, and all those "snobs" who went to college.

    • bobbert


    • Groups on the RNC alienation checklist:

      Harry Potter fans. (The books are full of godless, satanic occult evilness and they were written by a foreigner. A foreigner!! )

      Joggers. (They often run on roads, sidewalks and in public areas built with tax-payer money. Freeloaders! Leeches!)

      Chuck Lorre. (Helped create a show called "The Big Bang Theory" instead of calling it "The 6-Day Cosmic Super-Being Miracle" the way his future theocratic overlords would prefer.)

      • horsedreamer_1

        & if Stone Temple Pilots ("Big Bang Baby") hadn't died, they would be 1b after Lorre.

  • ph7

    “The state is going to hell”

    It's touching Arizona. It's a miracle New Mexico has been hell-free this long.

    • CleverSobriquet

      Between TX and AZ! The resistance is courageous.

    • Charlie_Foxtrot

      I may be mistaken, but isn't it ironic that "Arizona" is actually adapted from a word in the Navajo language?

      It means "as redneck as Alabama but there is no water."

  • el_donaldo

    Funny what they hang on to, isn't it? It's no longer an insult to General MacArthur when I get into my Subaru and drive away, but Native Americans?!? Still holding a grudge about that resistance to treaty-breaking and land-grabbing?!

    And Quebecois? Is the French and Indian War still a sore spot?

  • savethispatient

    Those damn Native Americans should go back to whatever country they came from!

    • anniegetyerfun


      • Even Siberia goes through the motions. Hold out and hold on!

        • doloras

          And speaking of free association – we have YES lyrics.

    • doloras

      Beringia's underwater now.

    • DahBoner

      "Take America Back" means something to skins…

  • prommie

    If there was a Nobel Prize for persistence in error, they'd have to give it to the GOP and then just retire it forever.

  • HarryButtle

    Custer was killed by the Plains tribes (Sioux & Cheyenne), what the fuck does that have to do with the Southwest tribes in NM (Hopi, Navajo, Apache)?

    Wait…what am I thinking? Why do I expect logical consistency from this moran?

    • MaxNeanderthal

      Yeah, the geographical connection between New Mexico and the Dakotas had kind of escaped me also…..

  • Baconzgood

    Why did Custer hate Hindus so much?

    • T3rbo

      because 9/11

      • MissTaken

        That's just Sikh.




      • bobbert


    • It's just like how I've often wondered why Hindus are so dedicated to the music of George Harrison.

    • doloras

      They charged him $8 for a quart of milk at the Kwik-E-Mart?

  • calliecallie

    I am pretty sure the Indians in New Mexico are not even the same TRIBE as the Indians who fought with Custer at Little Big Horn. Native Americans take that tribal nation stuff rather seriously.

    • Steverino247

      You're right on both counts. Different tribes. They do take that seriously, as seriously as going into an Irish Pub wearing an orange shirt on St. Patrick's Day would be taken seriously.

      • IonaTrailer

        What's green and comes out in the spring?

        Pati O' Furniture.

        • CleverSobriquet

          Gay Paddy O'Furniture

    • DahBoner

      "All casino gift shops look alike"

    • Jadetiger79


  • Fox E. Puppet

    So he hates Martinez & Janice Arnold Jones… any other GOP women need reminding that their party is waging a War Against Women?

  • RadioBowels

    Has anyone ever summed it up better than D. Boon and the Minutemen In the Punch Line?

    I believe when they found the body of general george a.
    custer quilled like a porcupine with indian arrows, he didn't
    die with any honor, any dignity, nor any valor.
    I wouldn't doubt when they found george a. custer
    an american general patriot and
    indian fighter, he died with shit in his pants.

    • Rotundo_

      Thanks for pointing me in the band's direction. I checked the band out on YouTube, Boon's passing was a major loss to the music world from what I saw of the band. I would have loved to catch one of their shows.

      • RadioBowels

        One of the great under appreciated guitarists of all time. And the band was totally political. When Corona was hijacked by Jackass they lopped off the lyrics — sadly, because I have quoted them here before. We need more political music nowadays. But these kids today.

  • Poindexter718

    Forget Cols. Custer and Wey; hows about paying some lip service to Col. Angus?

    • UnholyMoses


      Ya know, because the GOP is just like …

      Oh, nevermind.

    • viennawoods13

      I see what you did there.

  • pinkocommi

    Can you believe the audacity of Native Americans wanting to meet with elected officials?…. It is like they think they were here first.

    • docterry6973

      Jeez, they act like the own the place.

    • Barrelhse

      Not satisfied with the "steenking desert" we gave them? Ingrates.
      Next thing, they'll want to play at the famous Trail of Tears Golf Course.

  • T3rbo

    What would cause this nimrod to have such strong feelings about Custer? Is this some form of Homeland Pride I missed out on? I really had no idea that the RNC included a "Fuck Native Americans" wing that they had to pander to. Fun fact: Little Big Horn was in Montana, and almost all of the people who slaughtered Custer's troops are dead now. I think?

  • BornInATrailer

    Can we give the RNC some "Don't Tread On Me" flags infected with smallpox?

    • Steverino247

      Smallpox is gone, thanks to immunization. However, you could give them some of Jenny McCarthy's rantings about vaccines…

    • What about a little herpes? American Indians could substitute the linens at RNC-populated hotels with herpes-ridden blankets. Of course, it's likely the conventioneers will be bringing their own viruses and won't need any extra.

  • pinkocommi

    This asswipe realizes that the actual guys who killed Custer are dead now, right?. Oh I we are supposed to dislike all Native Americans forever. For standing their ground, I mean.. being brown.

  • Colonel Weh? More like Colonel W-A-A-A-H.

    • Dammit the Weh-Wah thing stuck in my head through all this reading, until … DASHED.

  • MissTaken

    I like Wonkette Manifest Destiny Day. Makes me forget that I have a vagina GOP men want to legislatively rape, legitimately.

  • OneYieldRegular

    Rogers is being faced with calls for dismissal from his RNC duties

    Wait, you mean attacking minorities isn't part of his RNC duties?

  • "It dishonors the memory of Custer not to order the National Guard to roll on those savage New Mexico Indians at dawn!! Well, what do you expect from a damned Mexican."

  • SorosBot

    So I guess this dick thought Kirk dishonored his son David when he not only talked with Klingons, but saved the Khittomer Accords that brought peace between them and the Federation.

    • T3rbo

      I'm glad you said what everyone else was thinking. What a relief…

  • Steverino247

    COL. Guey? As in "pinche guey?"

    • IonaTrailer

      Or pinche pendejo

  • monthlykos

    Reminds me of the old joke: General Custer to his men: "The bad news is that we are all going to be killed. The good news is that we won't have to ride back across South Dakota."

  • MacRaith

    Fun but largely irrelevant fact: According to IMDB, among the many actors who have played George Armstrong Custer are Errol Flynn, Ronald Reagan and Leslie Nielsen.

    • ttommyunger

      The most accurate portrayal: "Little Big Man".

  • Steverino247

    OK, as a former member of the 7th United States Cavalry, let me join in the fun. For the facts about Major General (Brevet rank, LtCol active duty rank) Custer:

    Pretty balanced write up. He clearly fucked up by attacking before other units arrived. Had he waited, the Sioux would have been toast and we would all be making fun of somebody else right now. However, the man made his name by being bold. His men arguably saved Meade from J.E.B. Stuart's cavalry at Gettysburg and certainly hastened the surrender of Lee by ruthlessly pursuing the Army of Northern Virginia on the retreat from Richmond. His wife also embellished the facts and nobody wanted to be rude to a widow, much like many people play nice today with Nancy Reagan. After she dies, watch St. Ronnie lose the halo.

    Also, there were Indian tribes back then who made a pretty good living from raiding their neighbors, usually other Indian tribes. Those tribal victims often fought with or scouted for, Federal troops like Custer's. Saying all the Indians were "good" OR "bad" doesn't correctly explain the situation out there in 1876. Nomadic peoples are usually not "good neighbors" in the traditional sense. They do what they need to do to survive.

    Now, back to this idiot Republican Rogers. Dumb as a bunch of rocks.

    • "Also, there were Indian tribes back then who made a pretty good living from raiding their neighbors, usually other Indian tribes. Those tribal victims often fought with or scouted for, Federal troops like Custer's. Saying all the Indians were "good" OR "bad" doesn't correctly explain the situation out there in 1876. Nomadic peoples are usually not "good neighbors" in the traditional sense. They do what they need to do to survive."

      What does that explain or justify?

      • MadBrahms

        (Because I am a nerdy academic I have some sort of compulsion to write a serious post here, so I apologize for the lack of jokes about balls). I think it's important to ask that question. Of course white people have no monopoly on cruelty or greed, but that in and of itself doesn't really explain anything. Since we're still fighting brown people whose history we seem to have conveniently forgotten, we need to scrutinize 'cultural' explanations.

        By the 18th century, massive population shifts had occurred across the continent. Much of this was due to the combination of new diseases and proxy wars between colonial powers that armed tribes against one another; the introduction of horses also played an important role in the American West. "Nomadic" Plains Indians were not always so, nor were they even necessarily from the plains. Their wars against each other were frequently instigated by the expanding United States (and Mexico) and in other cases were the result of forced displacement or the domino effect of colonial wars. The similarities to our contemporary Land Wars in Asia are worth thinking through. Anyway. I'm done being all serious. Time to go back to Newell's thread about cocks and pants-pooping.

        • Steverino247

          It's also hard to make a serious point here (especially with the word limit and a lack of real desire) when the issue really is about how incredibly stupid.and ignorant Rogers is. Besides, go far enough back in time, everybody's an immigrant to the Americas. If you want a real asshole where Indians are concerned, you have to go directly to Hernan Cortes. Compared to him, Custer was an amateur.

          • "Besides, go far enough back in time, everybody's an immigrant to the Americas."

            Are you delegitimizing Native American claims to this continent? (You wrote it, I'm just asking questions.)

  • Doktor Zoom

    Is it even worth mentioning that Custer was wiped out by Lakota, Northern Cheyenne, and Arapaho in Montana, and Susana Martinez was meeting with members of New Mexico tribes–Navajo, Apache, Pueblo, Hopi, etc?


  • a_pink_poodle

    He wants to surrender to the people we took their land from in the first place! This is an injustice!

  • Antispandex

    “tactless and bigoted statement.”

    I'm not getting what the problem is here. It's the G.O.P. Of course it's tactless and bigoted! It's what they do best, and you need to stick to what you are good at.

  • Barrelhse
  • Barrelhse

    Wait a minute… I've had a few minutes to digest this and I am absolutely dumbfounded by the profound depth of ignorance displayed (once again) by the GOP. If that party wins I will seriously consider leaving this ship of fools.

  • pdiddycornchips

    In a related note, Mr. Rogers went on to say he hoped his fellow Republicans will sign his petition to have May the first officially recognized as Pol Pot Day.

  • owhatever

    In Bible-based schools, Custer wins.

  • ttommyunger

    The Right's irrational fear of the Browns persists to this day. As part Native American, I can personally attest to the fact that their women crave and their men fear my Scrotum Pole.

  • clblabin

    So where did the Custer thing come from? Is it his birthday or something, and so you're not allowed to be nice to the Injuns out of respect? Or does this guy's mind just automatically go to Custer? Maybe Custer a big weird hero in the tea party for some reason, but I've never heard of that.

  • GregComlish

    Not entirely Custer's fault that he lost. Custer relied on data that showed the vast majority of the Indian population had already been transferred to reservations. He didn't realize the data had been doctored by private government contractors. The Halliburtons of his era got paid by the federal government for each person they resettled onto reservations. Contractors wildly inflated their claims to rake in the profits. But some dipshit in the government treated the claims as if they were credible and passed them off as actionable military intelligence.

    • Steverino247

      That will ruin your day, it will.

  • neiltheblaze

    Wasn't Custer a conniving careerist and homicidal glory whore?

    Our Native American brothers saved us from experiencing President Custer! We owe our Red Brothers our thanks and appreciation.

  • DahBoner

    The state is going to hell

    Nah, they don't have to.

    Texans pretty much come to them…

  • nowave

    Custer committed suicide.

  • BZ1

    Little known fact, Major Reno and Captain Benteen's troops largely survived the Battle of Little Big Horn, Reno was court martialed, mainly for surviving.

  • oldedinvn

    Imagine the outrage if the gov. met & talked to blahs.

  • Yes, battle brevet, versus quiet time colonel, versus casual genocide.

  • arihaya

    Custer was a complicated man,

    On one hand, he is a Union general who kicked those Southern Rebels' asses for good.

    On the other hand, he was a racist who thought Indian Wars was like a deer-hunting season.

  • CrunchyKnee

    General George A Custer, American hero, he died with shit in his pants.

  • MrsConclusion

    "…to the Native peoples of America Custer represents the bellicose imperialism that was responsible for the systematic slaughter of American Indians throughout this continent…"

    Let's not bicker and argue over who systematically slaughtered who.

  • Vanilla Custer. mmmmmmmmm.

  • horsedreamer_1

    I'll give Rogers one bit of credit: I thought he was going to go after Martinez for shaming the brave Rebs who fought at Glorieta Pass in an effort to extend the Strict Constructionist South to the Pacific.

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