99 ways to die

Heavy Metal Yowler Dave Mustaine Knows Obama Did All Those Shootings, Probably 9/11 Too

99 WAYS TO DIEEEEEEIf there’s one aspect of modern political discourse your Wonkette editor finds unbearably tedious, it’s “Remember how our side did X and you reacted with outrage, but now YOUR side did X and WHERE’S THE OUTRAGE,” because the only thing duller than arguing about tax policy or whatever is meta-arguing about arguing. That having been said, remember when the Dixie Chicks said “we’re ashamed that the President of the United States is from Texas” at a concert in London and people were all like “HOW DARE YOU ATTACK OUR PRESIDENT IN FRONT OF THE FOREIGNERS???” Well, um, Dave Mustaine, frontman for Megadeth, told a crowd in Singapore that Barack Obama staged the shootings in Aurora and Wisconsin as part of his plan to take away our guns, and also impose Nazi rule! This an important Lapse In Civility, right? Or maybe it’s just hilarious?

Your editor has vague memories from college that Megadeth was the “thinking person’s metal band” because it put out albums called things like Peace Sells … But Who’s Buying that seemed to indicate that there was some kind of semi-coherent political philosophy behind them, and also because Dave Mustaine reported for MTV from the 1992 Democratic National Convention, an honor only given to the music scene’s intellectual heavyweights. And yet, based on Mustaine’s between-song patter to some Singaporeans last week, maybe he is not so smart … or maybe he’s too smart, in that he knows too much about the coming Nobama coup:

Back in my country, my president is trying to pass a gun ban, so he’s staging all of these murders. Like the Fast And Furious thing down at the border and Aurora, Colorado, all the people that were killed there and now the beautiful people at the Sikh temple. I don’t know where I’m gonna live if America keeps going the way it’s going because it looks like it’s turning into Nazi America.

Here, you can watch the whole video at TMZ, and see that he hilariously ends his rambling about where he’s going to flee to by suggesting, much to the crowd’s delight, that maybe he’d escape Barack Hussein Hitler by settling in Singapore, which is of course a tightly controlled police state with extremely restrictive gun laws. But hey, whatever you gotta do to get the audience fired up, we guess!

Dave Mustaine’s Facebook page features praise for Glenn Beck and Alex Jones, so probably this shouldn’t be super-surprising. Also, back in the ’80s he started a riot at a concert in Northern Ireland because he inadvertently praised the IRA, so you might say he’s not really the most sophisticated guy politically. Enjoy being caned in Singapore, Dave! [TMZ]

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  1. ph7

    I don’t know where I’m gonna live if America keeps going the way it’s going

    I think Idaho is the place you're looking for.

    1. Tundra Grifter

      Montana. Up on the Snake. The area around the Flathead reservation. In the middle of all those white power idiots.

    2. An_Outhouse

      Don't come back. Somalia is beautiful. Even Hills had a good word for them a week or so ago.

  2. SorosBot

    I wish Obama would try to pass a gun ban; but no, he hasn't done anything on gun control, so why he would stage attacks to support a policy that does not exist is beyond me.

    1. PsycWench

      Yeah, remember how gun sales shot up after he was elected because he was going to somehow unilaterally ban all guns once he took office? Do these people ever stop and think about what POTUS really can and can't do?

        1. BerkeleyBear


          I only wish that was snark. Or that I didn't wish I could show people an alternative timeline where Obama hadn't won in 2008 just so everyone could see how fucked we'd all be and shut the fuck up about his perceived failures.

          1. SorosBot


          2. prommie

            Ahem. Nader got close to 50,000 votes in Florida in 2000. Nader can be thanked for Bush and trillions in war debt and hundreds of thousands killed and my house losing $200,000 in value and every fucking damned thing ever for the last 12 years. nader, nader, nader, and the Paultards of the left, the naderites. And youth is no excuse, you fucks, you know who you are.

    2. chicken_thief

      It doesn't matter that Obama loosened gun laws, they know deep in their hearts that him and Holder really want to take their guns away. Because Muzlin!

    1. GunToting[Redacted]

      Drug libel! Dave was just a violent alcoholic when Metallica kicked him out. He graduated to heroin later in life.

      1. Biel_ze_Bubba

        OK, so booze, and then heroin … but when did he completely lose his his shit, and descend into Republicanism?

        1. GunToting[Redacted]

          That would be an interesting case study… At what point had Dave so destroyed his higher brain functioning that Republican policy seemed reasonable to him?

    1. Tundra Grifter

      Chuck Norris' ghostwriter has probably been looking for a new gig for a while now, so that just might work out.

  3. Mumbletypeg

    Wasn't that kid who made headlines for getting the caning years ago, arrested and sentenced thus for merely chewing gum in an undesignated area or something?
    Oh,… this Mustaine guy should've been toast the moment he entered Singapore.

      1. Mumbletypeg

        I was just back from Nepal, which by contrast is tolerant of much Western crassitude for "good business"/ "customer is always right" sake — since tourism was key for thriving or just getting by. But even as I was negotiating the nuances (how not to insult your host; haggling at the market etc) I returned home to these headlines about singapore & realized I still had a lot left to learn about intercultural graces. It was my first overseas experience so at 25 I was just getting started (on understanding it all, that is. Mostly armchair-overeseas traveler since then).

  4. SorosBot

    Wait, how would gun control mean "it’s turning into Nazi America"? The Nazis encouraged people to own guns.

    1. el_donaldo

      Not according to gun-nut revisionist history. Seriously. They have a unified-field theory of totalitarianism that says it's basically restrictions on gun ownership, and so if the Nazis were totalitarian, ipso facto they restricted gun ownership. Q.E.D.

      1. Ruhe

        In that "standard model" of totalitarianism does the higgs boson come in both solid and hollow point flavors?

      1. SmutBoffin

        Fear not, Ye Gods of Metal shall smite ChillBill. First with a mighty riff, then with a full-size van bearing a kick-ass dragon airbrushed on the side.

    1. SmutBoffin

      “…pimply, prole, putrid, unchic, unsophisticated, anti-intellectual (but impossibly pretentious), dismal, abysmal, terrible, horrible, and stupid music, barely music at all…music made by slack-jawed, alpaca-haired, bulbous-inseamed imbeciles in jackboots and leather chrome for slack-jawed, alpaca-haired, downy-moustachioed imbeciles in cheap, too large t-shirts with pictures of comic book Armageddon ironed on the front…heavy metal, mon amour, where do I start?”

  5. bumfug

    Considering that there aren't 12 people in North America who give a fuck if Megadeth ever plays another note, why is there always so much publicity about what this mutt says?

    Fun Fact: Megadeth stole their name from a fake band in National Lampoon's Lemmings but spelled it wrong.

    1. MosesInvests

      I was about to mention that, but you beat me to it. Great album, BTW. The parody of John Denver was classic ("Oh, Colorado's calling me {HEY, YOU!}").

      1. bumfug

        The album was only the second half of the show – I saw it five times at the Village Gate and it had new stuff added every time. The first half was topical sketches and was hilarious.
        Female reporter interviewing John Belushi as the last POW off the helicopter, the man who'd been in the Hanoi Hilton longer than any other man: "What would you like to say to the American people?"
        Belushi, grabbing the back of her head and shoving her face in his crotch: "EAT IT!!! EAT IT NOW!!!!"

        1. Rotundo_

          I only caught a bit of it on tape, of all things, in the student union back in college many many many years ago, I would kill for video of it now, I can't even fathom how funny they must have been live. Congratulations on witnessing some great comedic talent. (Not just Belushi and Chase, but Alice Playten and all of them…)

  6. noodlesalad

    Well, if anyone knows what would cause a heavy-metal-playing ignorant racist to go and kill people at a Sikh temple, it would be this a-hole.

  7. FakaktaSouth

    Dave, Dave, ya gotta think bigger, it's not a proposed gun ban, it's FEMA camps for gun owners (even HE hasn't listened to Glenn Beck and he claims to "like" him?).

    Also, if PresO were gonna start having people shot, I would think he would start with the really important people, the truth-speakers, the old ass – no talent – playing in Singapore for JimBeam money – one hit wonders who were excommunicated from their uber-successful metal bands for being suckass losers. Like Dave.

      1. FakaktaSouth

        Oh my. She is beautiful and her voice is so sweet and twangy I love her too! Man. This is my new favorite song, for reals.

          1. FakaktaSouth

            I think he's coming around, through force and persistence, and hell, listen to this song! Who could ever resist? Especially not prommie, that's who.

          2. FakaktaSouth

            Are you talking about Meg? I know you cannot be talking about my baby girl's hero in this way. I KNOW this. Say it.

    1. sullivanst

      (even HE hasn't listened to Glenn Beck and he claims to "like" him?)

      Alex Jones libel! (who Dave also claims to "like" but hasn't listened to)

    2. toaster_pastry

      In the interest of fairness, despite banishing Dave, Metallica still finds itself full of "suckass losers". Thank god Cliff Burton did not survive to see what became of that sorry crap.

  8. Generation[redacted]

    The Dixie Chicks, for their sins, did not get any of their songs played on the radio.

    Dave Mustaine has been receiving the same punishment since 1985.

    1. fartknocker

      Our local independent rad-did-eo station in Austin loved playing the Dixie Chicks during that period. Emily Robison at the time was married to Charlie Robison, and both are highly respected musicians. I won't bother anyone with the divorce or new marriage stuff.

    2. Tundra Grifter

      If I remember "Shut Up and Sing" correctly, that whole brouhaha worked out very well for them.

  9. DaSandman

    This guy is just one step from an overdose and has been all his life. The best thing that came out of his mouth is vomit and that happens all the live long day.

    A perfect CV for commenting on FAUX news…

  10. MacRaith

    I'm betting that right about now the authorities in Singapore are regretting that they ever relaxed their old ban on men with long hair.

  11. SmutBoffin

    Peace Sells … But Who’s Buying was good. It was snotty and was a kind of metal that seems so long-gone now as to be considered "classic".

    But then Mustaine caught the Christian and then he sucked. The end.

  12. vodkamuppet

    He also got kicked out of Metallica for being a bigger asshole than the rest of Metallica. Not an easy accomplishment.

  13. smitallica

    Oh be quiet, Megadunce. Did Obama also get you thrown out of Metallica?

    Oh no, wait. That was your drinking and general assholeishness.

  14. CrunchyKnee

    Like little Davie's guitar playing, if you take the distortion and volume off the stupid words he's spouting it will come out as week, noodlely drivel that does not stand on its own.

  15. Baconzgood

    "my president is trying to pass a gun ban"

    Hmmmmm. I'm pretty sure if that was true I would have heard somthing about that.

  16. MissTaken

    I always trust the conspiracy ramblings of has-been musicians. I won't make up my mind who to vote for until Styx weighs in.

    1. Generation[redacted]

      Remember when the Styx song Show Me The Way was remixed to be a stirring patriotic Gulf War I anthem? Good times.

    2. kittensdontlie

      Given that ol' Lynyrd Skynyrd has remained deadly quiet about our oBamanation, we must assume that they approve. What,…too soon?

    3. UnholyMoses

      Well, I hope you have too much time on your hands because that's all just a grand illusion …

  17. imissopus

    The other night an old high school friend was posting pics from a concert she went to in Virginia Beach – Def Leppard with Poison and Lita Ford. And I thought that sounded pathetic.

  18. Troglodeity

    This is OUTRAGEOUS! Let's collect all the CDs Megadeth has sold over the last ten years and burn them all at once!

    I've got a 22-inch Weber Kettle; that should have plenty of room to spare.

  19. Tundra Grifter

    Druggedout rock and roller (or, at least, a guy who thinks he is one) says some crazy shit.

    Not exactly news in my world.

  20. prommie

    People think meta started with derrida, or foucalt, or whoever the fuck all, but in reality, it started with US political reporting, which, for most of a century, has been what they call "horserace" reporting, and thats just another word for "meta." Reporting on which campaign has been succesful in influencing the reporting makes my head hurt. My newest punk band will be called "Meta is Murder."

    1. FakaktaSouth

      But, watching you, the narrating-est narrator of all talk about how the media talks about what the politicians are doing to make them talk about them is just about the most meta thing I have encountered all day. And I like you, so instead of it making my head hurt it makes me laugh. Do it again! Do it again!

      1. prommie

        That other observer on my shoulder that watches everything from a distance, watch out, that might just be Mr. Schizophrenia.

    1. sullivanst

      They probably spoke English pretty well, but still had no idea what the fuck he's talking about, because contrary to what most Americans believe, especially ones like Dave Mustaine, the rest of the world does not obsess constantly about what's happening in America. They have their own countries to worry about.

      Also, even Dave Mustaine has no idea idea what Dave Mustaine is talking about.

      1. Generation[redacted]

        No, it's me, Dave. Open the door, I got the stuff. I think the cops are following me!

          1. Tangled sin tax

            They have a special place in my heart 'cause they were the first performance I took my hawt 19-yo gf to in '71 while back in school on the GI Bill. Also we were stoned.

  21. prommie

    The real story here is that this dude is obviously a victim of the disinformation campaign that seems to be spearheaded by that shoe-fetishist scumbag shitweasel Dick Morris, who is a constant presence on right-wing terror radio pounding some insane theory that Obama is gonna ban guns by signing on to a UN anti-gun treaty and that this will be a "back door repeal of the second amendment," on the grounds that treaties do take precedence over the Constitution. All based on a provision in the UN treaty that signatory nations must take steps to make gun transactions traceable. I have heard him give the whole spiel, on Hannity, its just vile and disgusting false nonsense, but the gun fetishists, you know, the dude's with the tiny dicks, they eat that shit up.

    1. GeorgiaBurning

      Obama, UN, gun sales regulations? Sounds like a trifecta win for the recreational firearms industry with any right-wing blogger

    2. sullivanst

      It's a hydra of disinformation. I wasn't even aware of Dick Morris spreading this absurd nonsense, but I knew about Glenn Beck, Alex Jones and Darrell Issa's dissemination.

  22. chicken_thief

    "…the beautiful people at the Sikh temple"

    In any context other than "Obummer is going to steal my guns!!!" I doubt that Mustaine would refer to the Sikh's as "beautiful".

  23. CommieLibunatic

    I wonder if "Occam's Razor" is taken as a metal band name yet. I'd thrash and scream-sing about how sometimes a random mass shooting is just a random mass shooting.

    1. sullivanst

      Maybe throw in something about how maybe, just maybe, if a President has, over the course of almost a full term, never once proposed specific new gun regulation, and has in fact on at least two occasions signed into law relaxations of gun regulation, maybe this is a sign that he is not coming for your guns.

      ETA: bad news, by the way

  24. Generation[redacted]

    Just goes to show, when Alice Cooper takes you backstage to warn you about your excessive drug use, you know something is seriously wrong.

    1. LetUsBray

      Kind of like when Keith Richards said Amy Winehouse needed to get her shit together and fly right. Turned out he knew what he was talking about.

  25. JustPixelz

    "…it looks like it’s turning into Nazi America…"

    I despise the way right-wingers (or anyone) throws Hitler and the Nazis into our political discourse. The real Nazis started World War II which killed 50-60 million people — a thousand deaths an hour for six years. The real Nazis rounded up their political, religious, ethnic and other enemies (Communists, Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals) and killed them. By the hundreds, the thousands and the millions. That was real life mega-death. And, heads up Mustaine, they banned music they didn't like.

    To equate the United States of America to Hitler's Germany is an outrageous insult to the soldiers and sailors who died in WWII. Fuck you Mustaine.

    1. lulzmonger

      But … but what would the Batshit Right possibly have to gain by trivializing Hitler????

      Also, Obama likes beer … you know who ELSE liked beer?

    2. sewollef

      Round of applause JP.

      As the son of a WWII veteran [and hero] who's armoured battalion liberated Bergen-Belsen death camp*, this ranks as the fucking comment of the day.

      [OT sidebar]; *My dad's comrades promptly rounded up the remaining SS guards and started shooting them in the head in anger. Their officers told them to stop.

  26. lulzmonger

    Give it up, Dave … FOX still won't put you on the air until AFTER you cut the grease-mop.

  27. Chet Kincaid_

    Led Zeppelin was a great band because they knew their roots. Your Megadeths and what not are what happens when you take all the "race music" out of rock'n'roll. After another round of devolution, all that's left is the "white power music scene."

  28. Toomush_Infer

    Oh, settle down people – he's just been reading the NRA Handbook on How to Stay Relevant Despite Reality and Garner Big Bucks…. although in his case, the big bucks aren't so relevant….

  29. CthuNHu

    So, wait — Megadeth frontdude thinks America is going Nazi… and he's not happy about it?

    I haz a confuse.

  30. larrykat

    We would organize a boycott of Megadeath if a boycott was not so close to the level of attention they actually get paid by the public. I mean, who would know they were being boycotted?

  31. randcoolcatdaddy

    Ah, the 80s … when politics and music meant "Just Say No" with Michael Jackson and Nancy Reagan and gay rights was about Frankie Goes to Hollywood telling Jesse Helms to "Relax".

    Good times, simple times. Except for the whole AIDS, Apartheid, Guns for Hostages, and Cold War things.

  32. glamourdammerung

    Wait a second, he is threatening to leave if President Obama gets re-elected? And he thinks that is going to get people to NOT vote for Obama?

  33. DahBoner

    Heavy Metal Yowler

    I thought 'Yowling' was the purveyance of Black Music from the 70's, like Average White Band?

  34. thefrontpage

    When did an anvil fall from the sky and hit Mustaine on the head?

    And why are so many anvils falling lately and hitting people on the head?

  35. thefrontpage

    TMZZZ reporting today, August 16, that Victoria Jackson, Dave Mustaine's girlfriend, issued a statement clarifying Mustaine's remarks.

    "What my conservative honeybunch was really saying is that Obama, together with liberal Democrats and liberal Republicans, has actually staged most huge domestic terrorist and gun-shooting incidents in the United States for the last 15 years. Many of these incidents didn't really happen, and they were all staged by a clandestine group of actors and magicians within the CIA, FEMA, the Defense Department, the Homeland Security Department, the DIA, the FBI and NOAA. Also, we believe that Democrats were behind the Kennedy assassinations, and they also faked the landing on the moon in 1969."

  36. thefrontpage

    Asked for comment about Mustaine's remarks today, Yeti, Sasquatch, Bigfoot, E.T., Bat Boy, Lobster Man, Dracula and the Loch Ness Monster just sighed, rolled their eyes and shrugged their collective shoulders, according to an exclusive reaction article in The Weekly World News.

    "Man, that guy–he's lost his grip on reality, big-time!" said Sasquatch, before heading back into the Oregon forest.

    "I think he's an asshole," said Lobster Man, from his oceanfront home in Maine. "He's taking the spotlight away from real sideshow and freakshow people. I mean, we have to make a living, too."

  37. Pat_Pending

    Well that 'splains everything. It's ok if stupid people say it. Smart people (Natalie Maines), not so much. That's why the totalitarians always round up the college students and professors first.

    Mr. Musty here need never worry, cuz he haz a dum.

  38. rockyoumonkeys

    Honestly, I'm still floored by this. I knew he was a born-again, and I was willing to overlook that. But I didn't realize he was this level of crazy.

    It's why I desperately avoid learning about artists I like (authors, musicians, etc.), because I'd hate to find out they were insane douches.

    So now what? How can I listen to his music again?

  39. Generation[redacted]

    Please, Dave, move to Singapore, and take all your guns with you. I'm sure the Singapore government would love that.

  40. bibliotequetress

    Serious question: Is Singapore where Ted Nugent adopted his teen wife?

    God, I don't care how tasty their slings are, Singapore is dropping to the bottom of my "Let's Go Asia!" travel list.

  41. iburl

    He's just trying to throw it for Romney, so Santorum can win in 2016 years.

    Mustaine used to shill for the Libertarian party in the 80's, that's when he seemed more political and therefore 'smarter' than most metalheads.

    His appearance in the "Some Kind of Monster" Metallica doc shows him, and Metallica, to be amongst the most whiney millionaire crybabies of all time. In other words, Romney Republicans.

  42. ttommyunger

    Dave, Dave, ugly, stupid and unhygienic is no way to go through life; just ask Ted Nugent…

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