HINT IT IS NEVER  10:30 am August 16, 2012

Paul Ryan Tricked By Fox News Into Admitting He Does Not Know When the Romney Plan Would Balance the Budget

by Kris E. Benson

We cannot stress enough that this is a VERY SERIOUS campaign, and it deals with VERY SERIOUS issues, and the addition of Paul Ryan (R-P90X) to the VP ticket really signaled a move by the Romney campaign towards VERY SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS because Ryan is a VERY SERIOUS person. So when Paul Ryan (R-P90X) accidentally revealed that he doesn’t KNOW when the Romney plan would balance the budget (because they “haven’t run the numbers on that specific plan”) it was probably because it was Fox News and he was tricked into feeling comfortable.

Yes, they haven’t run the budget on THAT specific plan because why would they, when they have so many plans to choose from: there’s the Romney budget that’s on the same page as the Ryan budget, there’s Romney’s “own budget”, and there’s the Romney budget that’s “very different” from Ryan’s budget. So many to choose from! We are curious to see how it comes out, when they figure out which one they like and run the numbers.

[Media Matters]

 
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Mittens Howell, III August 16, 2012 at 10:35 am

I just ran the numbers, here they are: 1 plus 1 = Fuck you!

FakaktaSouth August 16, 2012 at 10:35 am

Damn these people never do ANYTHING. They STILL haven't "read the bill" or "seen the dead prostitute in the bathroom" OR "run the numbers" EVER. Just what in the hell HAVE they done besides talk about what worthless layabouts all you poors are?

Chet Kincaid_ August 16, 2012 at 10:48 am

Stroke Magic's nose.

boobookitteh August 16, 2012 at 10:57 am

You're so pretty, Chet.

FakaktaSouth August 16, 2012 at 11:00 am

You know she ain't sticking to just stroking nothing's nose, not no way, not no how. (Yes, it's horse-fuck talk time again. Welcome. I actually saw a picture of a horse's dong the other day, in one of those hilariously captioned "look at this" fb things. I am now willing to just go with it. She's totally doing that horse.)

Chet Kincaid_ August 16, 2012 at 11:07 am

"Serial Horse Molester Ann Romney" has a nice ring to it.

PsycWench August 16, 2012 at 10:51 am

Why start now? Look at the results they've gotten with inertia.

Wadisay August 16, 2012 at 11:01 am

Back off, haters! Mitt's still doing the math on whether he paid less than 13% income taxes.

fredbell August 16, 2012 at 10:35 am

Now Fuck Snooze is part of the liberal media…

Baconzgood August 16, 2012 at 10:35 am

"It's clearly a budget. It's got lots of numbers in it…Oh wait it doesn't?"

a_pink_poodle August 16, 2012 at 10:37 am

There goes the LAMESTREAM MEDIA™ again posing it's Gotchya Questions© to make the GOP look bad AGAIN!

elviouslyqueer August 16, 2012 at 10:37 am

Um, Kris? It's P90X. I'm totally serious, too, also.

craigslistfiend August 16, 2012 at 1:41 pm

Yeah. Um… R stands for Republican. Kind of like "R-Wisconsin"? So… "R-P90X"? get it?

ChillBill August 16, 2012 at 10:37 am

To be fair, it doesn't take much to trick Ryan.

Oblios_Cap August 16, 2012 at 11:19 am

but…how can this be? He's the most intellectual member of the GOP!

ChessieNefercat August 16, 2012 at 11:53 am

And?…Your point?

WhatTheHolyHeck August 16, 2012 at 10:37 am

I've just changed my mind on entitlements. Let's abolish them, starting with these clowns' belief they deserve the highest posts in the land just because they want them.

Sharkey August 16, 2012 at 10:38 am

I got money on the number 5. Run, numbers, run!

fuflans August 16, 2012 at 10:38 am

so i'm guessing 'budget' is the next thing we can't say?

AbandonHope_ August 16, 2012 at 11:28 am

Romnette doesn't allow comments.

Mittens Howell, III August 16, 2012 at 10:39 am

If you have Ayn Rand's face screen-printed onto your jock strap I don't want you running any numbers that might affect me.

Shady_Esperanto August 16, 2012 at 11:23 am

I did not want the visual of Paul Ryan in a jockstrap, but, no, you just had to go there.

Mittens Howell, III August 16, 2012 at 11:30 am

But Ayn Rand's face softens the blow a bit, yes?

lulzmonger August 16, 2012 at 1:58 pm

Softens, yes – the blow, no.

ChessieNefercat August 16, 2012 at 11:54 am

I myself stopped at "I did not want the visual of Paul Ryan."

JustPixelz August 16, 2012 at 10:39 am

No fair! It was a trick question. Romney is going to use his business acumen to assess our balance sheet. If his record with Bain Capital is any indication, he'll declare America bankrupt and sell off our assets. At the moment I'm an asset ('cause I have a job I should be doing right this second!) but soon I'll be a liability sucking at the dried up teat of the government. See you in the clearance isle my peeps.

PubOption August 16, 2012 at 11:35 am

He might try to siphon off the pension fund (Social Security) into his own, bloated, 401(k).

Katydid August 16, 2012 at 10:39 am

Anyone who quotes what Ryan says is a dirty lieberal liar.

Chet Kincaid_ August 16, 2012 at 10:50 am

Newt?

ManchuCandidate August 16, 2012 at 10:41 am

Dumb/Dumber 2012!

kittensdontlie August 16, 2012 at 12:46 pm

I am going with Dumbass / Dumberass 2012. The teevee is full of obama is choking america to death ads, and now today, the latter imbecile is in town spewing his nonesense.

eggsacklywright August 16, 2012 at 10:41 am

Whine, whine, always play the victim. It's the repugs standard. Bbbut, math is hard .

PuckStopsHere August 16, 2012 at 10:41 am

It's like Robert Reich said on "The Ed Show" last night (even if I don't like "The Ed Show" because he sounds like Foghorn Leghorn to me, I'm a Maddow man) they haven't run the numbers, can't run the numbers, because there ARE NO NUMBERS TO RUN.

Chet Kincaid_ August 16, 2012 at 10:51 am

I was skeptical about Ed, but now I appreciate him.

Isyaignert August 16, 2012 at 1:32 pm

Ed's better on the TV than the radio. I always like it when Mike Pappentonio subs for his radio show, like today. Frankly, I don't think Ed's that smart. He's always getting railroaded by the paid RNC trolls who call his show and lets them spew their spew without challenging them with the facts. I could do a much better job refuting their BS. Ed does okay if he has a script.

JohnyEdge August 16, 2012 at 2:20 pm

I'm pretty sure there isn't any "Maddow man".

Mittens Howell, III August 16, 2012 at 10:41 am

Fox interviewer: "I think you're marvelous, would it be okay if gave you a blow-job?

Ryan: "I don't know! Stop it with the Gotcha questions already!!"

freakishlywrong August 16, 2012 at 10:52 am

They baked him a fucking cake, fer fuck's sake.

Mittens Howell, III August 16, 2012 at 11:00 am

A money cake!

sbj1964 August 16, 2012 at 10:41 am

They will balance the budget on the backs of the middle class,the elderly,unwed mothers,children,education,the poor,and Magic golden tablets of the tax code that Mitt has the seer stones for.

thatsitfortheother1 August 16, 2012 at 10:41 am

Paul "Two Bills" Ryan Tricked…

FIFY

EatsBabyDingos August 16, 2012 at 10:42 am

Well, if he had said "when the River Styx freezes and Beelzebub returns to the throne! BWAAA HA HA HA!" people might not take him seriously.

SavageDrummer August 16, 2012 at 12:19 pm

So… next Thursday?

MrFizzy August 16, 2012 at 10:42 am

S/O on some level the Wonk shouldn't criticize the only honest answer a repubelickin has provided in years.

Angry_Marmot August 16, 2012 at 10:43 am

Whoever wrote these questions forgot to read the memo. Mr. Ailes won't be best pleased.

Estproph August 16, 2012 at 10:43 am

Wait, you don't get it. It's not that they know that the budget plan will reduce the deficit, it's that they KNOW it will reduce the deficit.

thatsitfortheother1 August 16, 2012 at 10:45 am

And this guy calls President Obama a failure?

IncenseDebate August 16, 2012 at 10:46 am

I really thought it was unfair when Brit Hume asked Ryan to read a list of performers at the Iowa State Fair out loud:

Alpha Kenny Body
Sofa King
Hard with Mike Hawk

Toomush_Infer August 16, 2012 at 11:14 am

Really? Sofa King was at the Iowa State Fair? Damn!!!!!….

BarackMyWorld August 16, 2012 at 10:47 am

I had a macro already made for the Paul Ryan budget that'd be perfect to post for this, but my smartphone doesn't like photobucket. I'll summarize it…
Paul Ryan: Balance the budget derpa derp derp derp.
And…scene.

PsycWench August 16, 2012 at 10:47 am

Someone at Fox News is getting fired for this even as we type.

Schmannnity August 16, 2012 at 10:47 am

If only Republicans could go on a friendly media outlet. Oh, wait….

SorosBot August 16, 2012 at 10:48 am

But I thought their tax cuts for the rich would immediately make revenues increase, because of magic.

ChessieNefercat August 16, 2012 at 11:56 am

Well, revenues to the rich, obviously it would. Oh, you meant the Treasury. We'll have to get back to ya on that, you betcha.

pinkocommi August 16, 2012 at 10:48 am

The 1%'s net worth goes up. The 99%'s net worth goes down….. Actually, you can explain this one.

Mittens Howell, III August 16, 2012 at 10:49 am

Interviewer: That thing you keep talking about, could you explain it to us, just a little, please?

Ryan/Romney 2012: YOU MUST STOP THE DIVISION AND ATTACKS AND HATRED!!

thatsitfortheother1 August 16, 2012 at 10:49 am

The funny thing is, this guy really is their best and brightest.

Mittens Howell, III August 16, 2012 at 11:03 am

And to be fair to the people who vetted him, rummaging through a bucket of shit looking for the best and brightest turd is quite a difficult task.

ChessieNefercat August 16, 2012 at 11:59 am

Polish that one! Shit (ha). That one crumbled and squished to nothing too. Oh, how does one polish a turd?

Dudleydidwrong August 16, 2012 at 11:26 am

There are no corn kernels in the GOP septic tank.

elviouslyqueer August 16, 2012 at 10:50 am

I'm sure this will receive the same rigorous, strident, shit-storm provoking attention as did Nancy Pelosi's now-legendary Obamacare quote.

Oh, wait…

neiltheblaze August 16, 2012 at 10:50 am

He doesn't know the numbers in his own plan, never mind Mitt's.

freakishlywrong August 16, 2012 at 10:51 am

And nearly 50% of the country will vote for them. The "I'm not voting for either of them group, but I favor Obama" won't vote, and the fascists will suppress everyone else. Somebody hold me.

An_Outhouse August 16, 2012 at 11:06 am

I was so optimistic just a couple days ago but now feel the same as you. I feel like I have bipolar whiplash or something.

Pithaughn August 16, 2012 at 11:18 am

Hold you? to comfort you? Or hold you as in " keep from storming the windmill in a futile gesture of attacking our oligarch over lords"

Generation[redacted] August 16, 2012 at 12:34 pm

Bad news. They cut funding for windmills, too.

Isyaignert August 16, 2012 at 1:53 pm

The whores in Congress and their corporate overlords HATE that no one owns the wind or the sun.

Not_So_Much August 16, 2012 at 10:51 am

Typical liberal gotcha media, those fuckers.

fawkedifiknow August 16, 2012 at 10:53 am

You know how serious and brilliant and indispensable and just fucking wonderful Ryan is because he uses serious, brilliant, arcane and just fucking wonderfully insidery budgetary language that just impresses the living shit outta me: "Run the numbers."!!

It makes me crap my pants, it's so great.

MacRaith August 16, 2012 at 10:53 am

Oddly enough, I do know when the Romney plan would balance the budget. The answer is "Never".

And I think Ryan knows that too.

mavenmaven August 16, 2012 at 11:26 am

yeah but its much more fun to f@#$ over the middle class, makes being rich much more enjoyable.

Joshua Norton August 16, 2012 at 10:55 am

New "gotcha" issues the Repubs want to be declared off limits. Numbers, science, engineering, calculus, statistical analysis and pi.

GeorgiaBurning August 16, 2012 at 11:14 am

that's one way to improve kids' test scores

DahBoner August 16, 2012 at 11:38 am

The only acceptable Unit of Measure is Cubits!"!

JohnyEdge August 16, 2012 at 2:46 pm

. . . and pie

widestanceromance August 16, 2012 at 10:57 am

So, it's Fox that gets one more word–balance–made illegal to say within 20 miles of the R&R campaign?

Rich, very, very rich.

MacRaith August 16, 2012 at 11:02 am

"Fox News – Fair and, um, uh, a word we're not allowed to say, sorry…"

widestanceromance August 16, 2012 at 11:15 am

Indeed.

SayItWithWookies August 16, 2012 at 11:04 am

I watched this whole goddamn segment last night, and I was like, "Wow — that's the one thing Paul Ryan is supposed to be an expert on, and not even he can give Brit fucking Hume a straight answer." He admits the CBO says the Ryan plan will have a balanced budget by 2030, and then goes on to say that he really feels it'll stimulate the economy sooo much that it'll actually happen a lot sooner than that.

Not to mention that President Obama took $716 billion out of Medicare, but Ryan's plan, which has exactly the same number in fact saves medicare even though it results in fewer benefits than Obama's. It's fucking giving me flashbacks to being questioned by my parents when I was four and did something bad but was just learning how to lie.

An_Outhouse August 16, 2012 at 11:04 am

Ryan has a lot to learn from Romney. Just make something up! No one's going to check or even think about whether what you said made any kind of sense at all.

Question: when will the Romney plan balance the budget ?
Answer: It already has.

MinAgain August 16, 2012 at 11:06 am

Why does Fox News hate America?

widestanceromance August 16, 2012 at 11:16 am

Some people are wondering. . .

Isyaignert August 16, 2012 at 1:58 pm

Because it depends upon stupid fumducks to vote for the 'cons against their own best interests. A recent study proved that people who watch Fux News are less informed than those who watch NO news at all. Fux News should be sued by the Attorney General for media malpractice and the demoition of democracy. Fukkers!

belmontreport August 16, 2012 at 11:12 am

"I don't want to get wonky on you…" = I need to maintain my image as a SERIOUS Republican, but I seriously don't have a clue about any of this.

Harrison Wintergreen August 16, 2012 at 11:14 am

The debates are going to be fun!
Biden: "Mr. Ryan, your budget plan cannot work."
Ryan: "Yes it can."
Biden: "Prove it."
Ryan: "Uh, well, we haven't run the numbers yet…"

ottercliff August 16, 2012 at 11:19 am

Ryan's body fat number is 8. Can we just use that number?

BigSkullF*ckingDog August 16, 2012 at 11:23 am

fucking p90x gave me a stress fracture in my foot. fuck that, i'll just keep these 30 extra pounds.

Isyaignert August 16, 2012 at 2:00 pm

It's a brutal workout – my son stuck with it for about six weeks and gave up – of course after he spent oodles of bucks on all of the accessories and supplements required to do the program.

mavenmaven August 16, 2012 at 11:24 am

When people need to keep telling you that they are "serious", it is like your old uncle telling you that he is "important" or some loser insisting that he/she is "really attractive".

Isyaignert August 16, 2012 at 2:02 pm

Srsly. When someone is telling you how awesome they are – they automatically aren't.

GeorgiaBurning August 16, 2012 at 11:25 am

Don't ask about numbers, he's on a mission from God. Or is it Plan 9 from Outer Space without the angora sweaters?

AddHomonym August 16, 2012 at 11:30 am

GO BACK TO CHICAGO BRIT HUME!!!

ragarlove August 16, 2012 at 11:31 am

Depends on how long it takes for all the poors to die once their entitlements are cut.

DahBoner August 16, 2012 at 11:36 am

So, this basically proves the moon landing was fake, right?

Sister_Ray August 16, 2012 at 11:39 am

The budget gets balanced after the übermensch flee to Galt's Gulch and all the looters die off. Dddduuuhhhh

MrsConclusion August 16, 2012 at 11:41 am

Since when does Brit Hume talk like Darth Vader? Why wasn't I informed?

DocChaos August 16, 2012 at 11:47 am

Liberals have an emotional response to facts and figures, they need elitist data to support their feelings about how things should work. Conservatives understand that "Reagan proved" can successfully be substituted for actual numbers when projecting outcome.

mrblifil August 16, 2012 at 11:54 am

Also too they are still waiting to hear back from the flag pole they ran the budget up. To see if it could fly. For freedom.

smitallica August 16, 2012 at 11:58 am

Shorter Ryan:
Once all the poor and aged die off, we will have fewer entitlements to pay out, and lower unemployment because everyone without a job will be dead.

This shit solves itself!

BeefHardcake August 16, 2012 at 12:06 pm

I'm surprised the two of them just haven't started answering all these questions with a shrug and, "hey, I got mine, what the hell do I care?"

DalePues August 16, 2012 at 12:07 pm

Honestly, I don't give a shit if they don't ever balance the budget. I can't believe that the election has boiled down to balancing the budget.

Callyson August 16, 2012 at 12:09 pm

"I would put a contrast. President Obama…"

Oh shit, time to deflect attention away from the obvious failings of our plan. Quick, talk smack about Obama!

nowave August 16, 2012 at 12:22 pm

I can only confirm that the budget *numbers* are confidential, but the *wording* includes "shackles" and "chains" and "everyone, except for Sheldon Adelson."

Exhausted66 August 16, 2012 at 12:28 pm

Well we KNOW, but we're not releasing those documents.

T3rbo August 16, 2012 at 1:00 pm

That's why I am so excited about the Romney/Ryan ticket: they promise to balance the budget, no matter what, even if they don't actually know how they are going to do it. Good enough for me. Also, they are not blahs, forgot that part.

Millennial Malaise August 16, 2012 at 1:15 pm

"I don't want to get too wonky on you here…we haven't run the numbers" Translation: "Trust me, I'm smart and know all the answers, I just haven't bothered to check" Riiiiiight. Oh please, spare our poor little brains from all those wonky "numbers" that don't exist.

What is Paul Ryan's expertise, exaclty? Isn't that what "wonk" really means, being an expert at something? Ezra Klien is a wonk. Paul Krugman is a wonk! Paul is a budget dilettante. He done shit in congress except rubber stamp excessive spending bills and save his hedge fund donors money so he can hitch a ride on their bandwagon after he gets voted out.

Troglodeity August 16, 2012 at 1:21 pm

Well of course, it's way, WAY too much trouble to actually "run the numbers" on the budget you're running for office on.

Troglodeity August 16, 2012 at 1:22 pm

I'm surprised Romney's been able to resist taking some scissors to Ryan's incredibly distracting widow's peak.

Native_of_SL_UT August 16, 2012 at 1:28 pm

She also stated that Mitt gives 10% of his income to "charity'" Charity? Come on, Ann, why are you afraid to say "gives 10% in tithing to the LDS Church."
The LDS Church may give a certain amount of money to charitable causes and has its own welfare program, but I don't know of any other "Charities" that buy a chunk of Main Street in a large city to put in fountains next to their temples. I don't know of any other "Charities" that buy 2 whole blocks in the middle of a major city to build a freaking mall complete with a Tiffineys and a Rolex store.

Isyaignert August 16, 2012 at 2:05 pm

Budget, budget? Oh, THAT budget!

Have I told you today how much I HATE the Republicons?

lulzmonger August 16, 2012 at 2:07 pm

Read somewhere that to work, the "Ryan Simplex" fiscal virus needs to have the unemployment rate at or below 2.8%

CLAP HARDER, YOU FUCKING PEASANTS!
TINKERBELL IS STILL DEAD!

HistoriCat August 16, 2012 at 2:15 pm

If you haven't "run the numbers" yet, you don't have a budget – you have a wish list.

Come here a minute August 16, 2012 at 2:19 pm

It's hard to run the numbers on magic asterisks.

YouBetcha August 16, 2012 at 2:28 pm

This is one of those moments where he should phone-a-friend and have some words with our Beloved Snowbilly Grifter about how to handle the media.

BZ1 August 16, 2012 at 5:16 pm

Oh, please go wonky on him.

Ducksworthy August 16, 2012 at 5:28 pm

I demand to be taken seriously too when I say that this is not a human being, it is a Vampire!

ttommyunger August 17, 2012 at 8:06 am

(Empty) Heads will roll at Faux Snooze…

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