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Hot Blog Rumor: Maybe One of Those Huntsman Boys Gabbed To Harry Reid About Romney’s Taxes

And did you SEE what Ann was wearing? The Internet is rapidly zeroing in on the identity of Harry Reid’s source, the one who was like “oh yeah Harry, that guy, Romney, no taxes from that guy,” which Harry Reid reiterated on the Senate floor, destroying any semblance of what had previously been a sense of good faith and comity between the two parties in the World’s Greatest Deliberative Body. After a couple of weeks, Kos and Cannonfire nosed around a bit and found themselves with a lead: Oh, duh, it’s probably someone from the other rich Mormon political family that owns the other half of Utah, the Huntsmans — Jon Jr. and pop Jon Sr. They’re not the first to surmise that Reid’s source came from within powerful Mormon circles, where secrets do not appear to be safely kept. But they are the first to google around for a few more nuggets of circumstantial evidence and crap it out into a blog post, because why not?

Cannonfire goes with Jon Huntsman Jr., Kos with Jon Huntsman Sr. Some points made:

  • The Huntsmans are hella Morm, of course. As in they’re bigwigs in the church hierarchy; no clue if they’re into the actual Jesus-in-Missouri hoopla.
  • Huntsman Sr. is business partners with Robert C. Gay (“business partners”), who was Bain’s managing director from 1998 to 2004 and perhaps knows the secrets.
  • It’s unclear if the Huntsmans have invested in Bain, but Bain has invested heavily in Huntsman Sr.’s multibillion dollar Big Mac container corporation. Bain has also been considering buying Huntsman’s company in classic private equity incubus style, and maybe that makes the Huntsmans sad.
  • While Huntsman Sr. supports Romney’s campaign now — Huntsman Jr. is basically checked out at this point — it’s quite possible that there’s residual anger from the primary season, since every campaign that’s run against Mitt Romney has gone on to despise him deeply as a person.
  • Huntsman Sr. has donated to and, pushed for projects with, Harry Reid.
  • Just… umm… it’s gotta be one of the Huntsmans… right??
  • Maybe it is someone else. But maybe it is one of the Huntsmans??

McKay Coppins, the Mormon guy at Buzzfeed who is MAYBE ALSO THE REID SOURCE? (BECAUSE HE IS MORMON AND… OTHER STUFF?), called up some other Mormon politics guy to ask him about the rumors. (And, *sigh*, He engages in vulgar hate speech against bloggers to make his point. As though we marched all those years for nothing. We have theories about Big Foot and crop circles and space ships? Dude, we don’t want to “get into it,” but try googling your religion):

Chuck Warren, a Salt Lake Republican strategist who endorsed Romney in the primary and has fundraised for the younger Huntsman’s gubernatorial bid, dismissed the speculation as “ridiculous.”

“I mean, people who believe this are the same people who espouse a theory that Big Foot is making crop circles with his space ship,” said Warren, whose firm is Silver Bullet. “Besides the obvious fact that Mr. Huntsman is not Gov. Romney’s accountant… he is simply a more honorable man than that. He doesn’t work in the shadows, and because you donate $9,600 to someone, probably less than .0001% of what Harry Reid collected that cycle, doesn’t make them BFFs.”

Another Utah powerbroker who endorsed Huntsman in the primaries was similarly incredulous.

“Personally I would REALLY doubt [Huntsman Sr.] is behind this — Harry has tons of other dubious source possibility,” the source e-mailed. “And [Huntsman Sr.] is behind Mitt now, too.”

Gross. And now Huntsman Sr. himself has chimed in at Greg Sargent’s blog, saying he’s not the source (he would say that), but, in any event, Mitt Romney should release more tax returns:

But I just got off the phone with Huntsman, and he confirmed to me that he is not Reid’s source.

However, in a move that could be significant, Huntsman forcefully called on Romney to release his tax returns. This matters, because Huntsman is a longtime backer of Romney — he has long been close to Romney; he supported his early campaigns; he was the national finance chairman of Romney’s 2008 presidential campaign; and he has raised a lot of money for him over the years. (He backed his own son in the latest GOP primary.)

“I feel very badly that Mitt won’t release his taxes and won’t be fair with the American people,” Huntsman told me. In a reference to Romney’s father, who pioneered the release of returns as a presidential candidate, Huntsman said: “I loved George. He always said, pay your taxes for at least 10 or 12 years.”

“Mr. Romney ought to square with the American people and release his taxes like any other candidate,” Huntsman said. “I’ve supported Mitt all along. I wish him well. But I do think he should release his income taxes.”

All very interesting. But for now, we’ll go back to thinking the source was Chuck Schumer in a bad cowboy voice.

[Cannonfire, Kos, Buzzfeed]

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  • Goonemeritus

    I’m guessing Mitt wishes he wasn’t such a mean girl to John during the primary now.

  • IncenseDebate

    I hope this turn of event brings us back to Huntsman's hot daughters.

    • Tundra Grifter

      Agreed. I had no idea Mr. Huntsman had a son.

      • Mahousu

        It's John Hunstman's father who had the son. This sounds like a riddle.

        As it happens, John Huntsman (Jr.) does have a son as well, named John of course – though I think he goes by Jon. (He also has another son named William, but that doesn't count.)

        • Tundra Grifter

          Brothers and Sisters have I none?

          Must not be a Mormon.

    • rickmaci

      Am I the only one fapping over the thought one of the Huntsman filles is the new Deep Throat?

      • Angry_Marmot

        You're just the first to admit it.

      • IncenseDebate

        I'm already writing the screenplay for Vivid

      • Tundra Grifter

        Brains, beauty, and a sense of humor is a tough combination to beat.

  • pinkocommi

    Romney is an asshole. You can fully attribute that statement to Pinkocommi.

  • ph7

    One of the hot Huntsman daughters, Fawn Huntsman, smuggled Mitt's tax returns out of Bain offices in her underwear.

    • IncenseDebate

      I want to sniff that out.

      • Nostrildamus

        All the Huntsman daughters need to release their underwear.
        For America!

        • IncenseDebate

          Yes. Yes they do. For God and country.

          • Steverino247

            For "oh, my God!" and country.

            /fixed

    • chicken_thief

      So you saying then that Mitt really did pay zero taxes or that something in Fawn's crotch ate the ink off the 1040 and it just appears that nothing was paid?

      • IncenseDebate

        These are questions that need answers.

    • TheGyrus

      Except it was Mormon underwear, so not actually that hot.

      • http://simplyleftbehind.blogspot.com/ actor212

        Once she's out of them, do you really care?

      • ph7

        You need Mormon sized underwear to hold one of Mitt's tax returns.

    • http://simplyleftbehind.blogspot.com/ actor212

      This deserves a probing in-depth

      • ph7

        I'd like to chair the exploratory committee. All in favor, say "aye"

        • http://simplyleftbehind.blogspot.com/ actor212

          I!

  • ChernobylSoup

    As long as it keeps circling back to, "wasn't me, but he really ought to release those returns," I don't care who it was.

  • Baconzgood

    "He always said, pay your taxes for at least 10 or 12 years.”

    How about "pay your taxes EVERY YEAR like every other muther fucker in the country!!!!"

    • 1stNewtontheMoon

      turns out Mitt can't even meet his father's woeful standard on the paying your taxes front.

  • bumfug

    Actually, it was the angel Moroni who appeared to Harry Reid and gave him Mitt's tax records inscribed on golden tablets.

    • arihaya

      "And it came to pass that Angel Moroni spaketh to Harry Reid: "Thou shall proclaim that the assholes known as Mitt Romney hath not paid a dime of taxes". And Reid did so."

    • http://slackoftownnola.wordpress.com Comrade Wingtardd

      Not Charlton Heston?

    • mannacler

      Best comment ever.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/30500320@N06/ DerrickWildcat

    MORMON FIGHT! MORMON FIGHT! MORMON FIGHT!

    • Baconzgood

      Are they allowed to fight? Or they like the Amish?

      • nounverb911

        The Amish are into scissoring (beards).

      • TavariousChinaSmith

        They can sk*ll-f*ck each other as long as they don't cuss.

        • HeeHaw77

          Or drink caffeine

      • Ducksworthy

        For your answer, Google Meadow Mountain Massacre.

        • 1stNewtontheMoon

          in fairness, they weren't massacring other mormons.

          • Ducksworthy

            And they were pretending to be Indians so I guess the mutilation was permissible.

    • http://www.wonkette.com ChillBill

      Do they throw golden plates or dirty magic undies at each other?

  • http://www.proofnpudding.com muthalovin

    Hopefully Mittens paid his Mormon church dues! There would be a shitstorm if he didn't.

    • viennawoods13

      No… hopefully he didn't. Because that would be so much more fun to watch.

      • 1stNewtontheMoon

        no, hopefully he paid his church. and didn't pay his taxes. the alternative is to make his base actually like him.

        • rickmaci

          Hopefully he didn't pay either and he is the pile of shit we think he is.

  • Pragmatist2
  • coolhandnuke

    It was one of the Osmonds, acting alone who leaked it–Lee Harvey Osmond.

    • IncenseDebate

      Single leaker theory.

    • ph7

      But who was hiding in Marie's grassy knoll?

      • IncenseDebate

        Those nutritionally balanced weight loss meals.

      • chicken_thief

        Donnie? With a candlelabra? In the library?

        • mlle_derp

          Wearing purple socks…

    • rickmaci

      Magic bullet, magic undies. Either works for me.

  • Jus_Wonderin

    “I loved George. He always said, pay your taxes for at least 10 or 12 years.”

    Wait a minute. I haz a confuse.

  • Oblios_Cap

    “I loved George. He always said, pay your taxes for at least 10 or 12 years.”

    But no longer than that?

  • RadioBowels

    Have they considered the lesser known brother, Mike Huntsman?

    • Oblios_Cap

      Has anybody seen Mike Huntsman?

    • coolhandnuke

      Rumor says he has a deep throat.

      • rickmaci

        I heard it was only sore.

  • SorosBot

    The source appears to be a high profile Mormon who knows a lot and can't stand Mitt Romney – it's Ken Jennings isn't it?

    • tihond

      It would make Jennings even more dreamy.

    • HistoriCat

      Isn't "can't stand Mitt Romney" pretty much pointless in narrowing this down? Who the hell can stand Romney?

      • SorosBot

        Certainly not his dog.

  • Callyson

    I love the smell of Republican infighting in the morning…or any other time…

  • SheriffRoscoe

    My bet's on G. Gordon Liddy. He's a moron, right?

    • zippy_w_pinhead

      Liddy is a classic example of what is wrong with tea bagger selective outrage. While they wail and moan about fast and furious, none of them seems to remember Liddy's famous radio comments about shooting ATF agents in the head, since they would be wearing Kevlar jackets

  • DaveJ

    "He always said, pay your taxes for at least 10 or 12 years."

    Ah ha, because….er…what, ok now, what the hell does that even mean?

    • IncenseDebate

      Is he hinting that someone did NOT pay taxes for 10 or 12 years????

      • 1stNewtontheMoon

        that is such a weird and otherwise non sequitur quote.

        • bobbert

          People do, sometimes, misspeak. Or maybe he just has an old-guy weird sense of humor (not that I'd know anything about that).

  • fartknocker

    It was a blind accountant in Massachusetts.

    • http://simplyleftbehind.blogspot.com/ actor212

      Thank god for blind accountants, or Mitt would be broke.

      • zippy_w_pinhead

        and yet he had the nerve to tax them for their blindness, what an ingrate

        • http://simplyleftbehind.blogspot.com/ actor212

          Nobody has ever called Mitt grateful

  • Oblios_Cap

    Chuck Warren, a Salt Lake Republican strategist who endorsed Romney in the primary and has fundraised for the younger Huntsman’s gubernatorial bid, dismissed the speculation as “ridiculous.”

    So the GOP strategist thinks that's ridiculous, but doesn't think the shit his party is throwing out there is beyond the pale? What a jackass.

  • http://facethesuncastnoshadow.wordpress.com/ Mumbletypeg

    This rumor will end up where all those deflated balloons go. And speaking of sad sacks: I'm still waitin to hear what dark secret of Newty-Grinch's we were taunted in these same pages about, that Nancy Pelosi alluded to but wouldn't spill outright?

    • 1stNewtontheMoon

      she didn't need to because newt's lead in the polls lasted about the same length of time as his marriages. no need for a cocktober surprise when your campaign fails before cocktober.

    • bobbert

      Newt's still breathing. Nancy has a number of faults, but wasting ammo ain't one.

  • SexySmurf

    Huntsman Sr. is business partners with Robert C. Gay (“business partners”), who was Bain’s managing director from 1998 to 2004 and perhaps knows the secrets.

    So the Gays did it! I knew it!

    • OneYieldRegular

      I was going to say: if Romney was a Democrat, the FOX headline would be "Director of Bain Capital was Gay!"

  • http://simplyleftbehind.blogspot.com/ actor212

    Gay Huntsman, huh?

    I knew Little Red Riding Hood played into this somehow.

  • ChernobylSoup

    I bet the source was white.

    • mlle_derp

      Snow White! AND the Huntsmans…

    • 1stNewtontheMoon

      that's fucking brilliant (assuming there ever was a source).

    • Tundra Grifter

      I've never met a Blah CPA.

    • arihaya

      white and delightsome !!

  • http://simplyleftbehind.blogspot.com/ actor212

    Y'know, I can actually see Mitt Romney giggling to his business partners about how he never pays taxes.

    • 1stNewtontheMoon

      kinda like how he chides his maid service for using illegals (not because it's illegal, but jeezzzus christ, y'all, i'm trying to run for president here).

  • GeorgiaBurning

    Funny how these scandals always come back to that Snow White movie.

  • http://simplyleftbehind.blogspot.com/ actor212

    I'm shocked, shocked I says, that Breitbart.com hasn't pursued this with the fervor of an Anthony Weiner tweetpic.

    • Jus_Wonderin

      You'd think they would give the focus on this as it is a dick – not paying taxes.

    • rickmaci

      Notsobreitbart.

  • http://www.wonkette.com ChillBill

    Sounds to me like one of those "pranks" from the Hunstman girls.

    • chicken_thief

      Book 'em, Danno! Let's put the cuffs on them and…. oh, shit, let the fun begin!

      • rickmaci

        I am all in for getting punked by a Hunstman girl.

  • WhatTheHeck

    Say, is that Horse of Anne’s, a talking horse?

    • zippy_w_pinhead

      oh Wilbur! horses can't talk once they've made the trip to the Elmer's factory…

      • rickmaci

        It's Willard.

    • Tundra Grifter

      Stalking, not talking.

  • lochnessmonster

    Romney said he is unemployed like many other Americans…no income = no taxes or returns…

  • SheriffRoscoe

    All I can say is, is that I'm hoping this little time bomb waits until mid-October to go off.

  • http://www.wonkette.com Lionel[redacted]Esq

    As someone has pointed out, one of the reasons that Romney doesn't want to turn over his tax records is not because he runs a child prostitution ring out of Mexico (that is a plus in Republican circles, you can just hear Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter saying "Finally, we are getting something back from those illegals that have taken all our best fruit picking jobs!"), but because he doesn't want the church to know how much he has made, and that he hasn't properly tithed.

    Don't under estimate that the Church may not be happy with Mr. Romney keeping all his money for himself and his horse.

  • mavenmaven

    I was hoping you'd at least leave up pics of the Huntsman girls, as our weekend fapping pic (and not Mema again).

  • Tundra Grifter

    The Joseph Smith Code.

    • rickmaci

      Bring'em Young.

      • Tundra Grifter

        Bring'em Young. Treat 'em Rough. Teach 'em to Dance.

  • elburritodeluxe

    Isn't it clear to everyone that Reid makes shit like this up? Because he's fucking crazy?

  • widestanceromance

    I am nourished by thoughts Willard will be undone by his own.*

    *some may have noticed I always refer to him as 'Willard' and not his last name or his porn name of 'Mittens.' I think Willard should not be allowed to dodge his own name. He gets to dodge everything else, after all.

  • elburritodeluxe

    When Republican politicians or pundits say crazy shit like this the get a pass in the lamestream media because – hey they're Republicans! It would be Liberal media bias to point out that they're full of shit. Besides, Republicans aren't very smart, and they speak for the folks from the not very smart Heartlands. So give them a break!

    But when a Democrat says something dumb, holy shit, why is he degrading this nation's political discourse!

  • zippy_w_pinhead

    I'm betting it was the shadowy figure on the grassy knoll…

  • OneYieldRegular

    Wait, Mormons aren't good at keeping secrets, the this is where they store the sacred texts?:
    http://www.alwayssomethingcool.com/top-ten-post-a

    • 1stNewtontheMoon

      so that's where Hitler is lying in state…hmmm. always wondered.

    • bobbert

      Actually, that's where they store your genealogical history. And mine. And yours, and yours, and yours, and …

  • Ducksworthy

    Nehor Queen of the Planet Kolob is on her way here in her beehive shaped spaceships to rescue the Romney Campaign for Mormon World Domination, or to destroy him. Depends. Look it up sheeple!

    • rickmaci

      You guys really think that head helmet he wears is hair? Take off the crystal eyeglasses people!!!

  • http://lostintarnation.blogspot.com/ SayItWithWookies

    Huntsman's just about the only Mormon Republican anybody knows about — whereas I have no idea who else the guys are in the Bain Capital picture with all the dollar bills stuffed in their suits. Either way, I'm betting it was a rich white male.

  • http://simplyleftbehind.blogspot.com/ actor212

    I kind of picture Mitt calling Huntsman into his campaign office and closing the door.

    "I know it was you, John. You broke my heart. You broke my heart!"

    …and once he's left, to his henchman: " I don't want anything to happen to him while my mother's alive."

    • rickmaci

      From the Kolobfather, right?

    • 1stNewtontheMoon

      and then, true to form, they go kill actor greg kinnear.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Johnny-Appletruth/133951326629923?sk=wall deanbooth

    Warren, whose firm is Silver Bullet.

    Warren, whose Silver Bullet is firm = Best Bond villain ever!

  • barto

    Did Rafalca lose yet? That could be another tax deduction, you know. Not that he needs it, apparently.

  • Steverino247

    It was a one-armed man. Unfortunately, we have a lot of them now thanks to that stupid bastard, W, sending them to Iraq for no fucking reason.

    • Tundra Grifter

      On a somewhat more serious note, especially for a Friday afternoon, can't you just hear the cheers in every VA hospital in America for Oscar Pistorius?

      Best thing to come out of South Africa since Nelson Mandela. And Charlize Theron. Also.

      • Steverino247

        I was able to speak to some of them personally last weekend and they were very pleased. I've seen a number of men with similar prosthetics (and beyond) at Walter Reed and various VA facilities since 2004. Very inspirational, all of them.

        • bobbert

          Somebody twatted him a question about whether he had more than one set of legs, and he replied (1) walking, (2) sprinting, (3) party.

          • Tundra Grifter

            I remember when Paul Newman played Earl Long and he liked to wear cowboy boots to bed for the traction. Maybe those "party legs" are really short – but with plenty of spring.

        • Tundra Grifter

          So247:

          Dulce.

  • http://www.toastcat.com Fred_Wertham_Jr

    Garbling what George Romney said about candidates releasing 10-12 years' worth of tax returns would indicate that Huntsman Sr. is senile. He's probably the source but just forgot about the whole thing.

  • NYNYNYjr

    After saying Rom should release his returns Huntsman also said: “I loved George [Romney]. He always said, pay your taxes for at least 10 or 12 years.”

    What a humanitarian– you should pay your taxes for at least 10 years before doing the rich-person hide all your money thing. Then you can safely release your returns when running for president.

  • MinAgain

    The Huntsman girls post a satirical video on YouTube in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1…

    • TribecaMike

      And it's embarrassing.

  • mosjef

    High atop the Mother Church in downtown Salt Lake, Gideon is poised, trumpet to his lips, waiting for a halfway decent back beat to lay down some smoking tracks at the second coming of J. Christ. Tax this, mofo.

  • ttommyunger

    Looks like Mittens is going to have to choke a bitch.

  • TribecaMike

    Nothing personal, Utahans, but are you all this butt ugly?