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Hot Blog Rumor: Maybe One of Those Huntsman Boys Gabbed To Harry Reid About Romney’s Taxes

And did you SEE what Ann was wearing? The Internet is rapidly zeroing in on the identity of Harry Reid’s source, the one who was like “oh yeah Harry, that guy, Romney, no taxes from that guy,” which Harry Reid reiterated on the Senate floor, destroying any semblance of what had previously been a sense of good faith and comity between the two parties in the World’s Greatest Deliberative Body. After a couple of weeks, Kos and Cannonfire nosed around a bit and found themselves with a lead: Oh, duh, it’s probably someone from the other rich Mormon political family that owns the other half of Utah, the Huntsmans — Jon Jr. and pop Jon Sr. They’re not the first to surmise that Reid’s source came from within powerful Mormon circles, where secrets do not appear to be safely kept. But they are the first to google around for a few more nuggets of circumstantial evidence and crap it out into a blog post, because why not?

Cannonfire goes with Jon Huntsman Jr., Kos with Jon Huntsman Sr. Some points made:

  • The Huntsmans are hella Morm, of course. As in they’re bigwigs in the church hierarchy; no clue if they’re into the actual Jesus-in-Missouri hoopla.
  • Huntsman Sr. is business partners with Robert C. Gay (“business partners”), who was Bain’s managing director from 1998 to 2004 and perhaps knows the secrets.
  • It’s unclear if the Huntsmans have invested in Bain, but Bain has invested heavily in Huntsman Sr.’s multibillion dollar Big Mac container corporation. Bain has also been considering buying Huntsman’s company in classic private equity incubus style, and maybe that makes the Huntsmans sad.
  • While Huntsman Sr. supports Romney’s campaign now — Huntsman Jr. is basically checked out at this point — it’s quite possible that there’s residual anger from the primary season, since every campaign that’s run against Mitt Romney has gone on to despise him deeply as a person.
  • Huntsman Sr. has donated to and, pushed for projects with, Harry Reid.
  • Just… umm… it’s gotta be one of the Huntsmans… right??
  • Maybe it is someone else. But maybe it is one of the Huntsmans??

McKay Coppins, the Mormon guy at Buzzfeed who is MAYBE ALSO THE REID SOURCE? (BECAUSE HE IS MORMON AND… OTHER STUFF?), called up some other Mormon politics guy to ask him about the rumors. (And, *sigh*, He engages in vulgar hate speech against bloggers to make his point. As though we marched all those years for nothing. We have theories about Big Foot and crop circles and space ships? Dude, we don’t want to “get into it,” but try googling your religion):

Chuck Warren, a Salt Lake Republican strategist who endorsed Romney in the primary and has fundraised for the younger Huntsman’s gubernatorial bid, dismissed the speculation as “ridiculous.”

“I mean, people who believe this are the same people who espouse a theory that Big Foot is making crop circles with his space ship,” said Warren, whose firm is Silver Bullet. “Besides the obvious fact that Mr. Huntsman is not Gov. Romney’s accountant… he is simply a more honorable man than that. He doesn’t work in the shadows, and because you donate $9,600 to someone, probably less than .0001% of what Harry Reid collected that cycle, doesn’t make them BFFs.”

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Another Utah powerbroker who endorsed Huntsman in the primaries was similarly incredulous.

“Personally I would REALLY doubt [Huntsman Sr.] is behind this — Harry has tons of other dubious source possibility,” the source e-mailed. “And [Huntsman Sr.] is behind Mitt now, too.”

Gross. And now Huntsman Sr. himself has chimed in at Greg Sargent’s blog, saying he’s not the source (he would say that), but, in any event, Mitt Romney should release more tax returns:

But I just got off the phone with Huntsman, and he confirmed to me that he is not Reid’s source.

However, in a move that could be significant, Huntsman forcefully called on Romney to release his tax returns. This matters, because Huntsman is a longtime backer of Romney — he has long been close to Romney; he supported his early campaigns; he was the national finance chairman of Romney’s 2008 presidential campaign; and he has raised a lot of money for him over the years. (He backed his own son in the latest GOP primary.)

“I feel very badly that Mitt won’t release his taxes and won’t be fair with the American people,” Huntsman told me. In a reference to Romney’s father, who pioneered the release of returns as a presidential candidate, Huntsman said: “I loved George. He always said, pay your taxes for at least 10 or 12 years.”

“Mr. Romney ought to square with the American people and release his taxes like any other candidate,” Huntsman said. “I’ve supported Mitt all along. I wish him well. But I do think he should release his income taxes.”

All very interesting. But for now, we’ll go back to thinking the source was Chuck Schumer in a bad cowboy voice.

[Cannonfire, Kos, Buzzfeed]

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132 comments

      1. Mahousu

        It's John Hunstman's father who had the son. This sounds like a riddle.

        As it happens, John Huntsman (Jr.) does have a son as well, named John of course – though I think he goes by Jon. (He also has another son named William, but that doesn't count.)

    1. rickmaci

      Am I the only one fapping over the thought one of the Huntsman filles is the new Deep Throat?

  1. ph7

    One of the hot Huntsman daughters, Fawn Huntsman, smuggled Mitt's tax returns out of Bain offices in her underwear.

    1. chicken_thief

      So you saying then that Mitt really did pay zero taxes or that something in Fawn's crotch ate the ink off the 1040 and it just appears that nothing was paid?

  2. ChernobylSoup

    As long as it keeps circling back to, "wasn't me, but he really ought to release those returns," I don't care who it was.

  3. Baconzgood

    "He always said, pay your taxes for at least 10 or 12 years.”

    How about "pay your taxes EVERY YEAR like every other muther fucker in the country!!!!"

    1. 1stNewtontheMoon

      turns out Mitt can't even meet his father's woeful standard on the paying your taxes front.

  4. bumfug

    Actually, it was the angel Moroni who appeared to Harry Reid and gave him Mitt's tax records inscribed on golden tablets.

    1. arihaya

      "And it came to pass that Angel Moroni spaketh to Harry Reid: "Thou shall proclaim that the assholes known as Mitt Romney hath not paid a dime of taxes". And Reid did so."

      1. 1stNewtontheMoon

        no, hopefully he paid his church. and didn't pay his taxes. the alternative is to make his base actually like him.

  5. Jus_Wonderin

    “I loved George. He always said, pay your taxes for at least 10 or 12 years.”

    Wait a minute. I haz a confuse.

  6. Oblios_Cap

    “I loved George. He always said, pay your taxes for at least 10 or 12 years.”

    But no longer than that?

  7. SorosBot

    The source appears to be a high profile Mormon who knows a lot and can't stand Mitt Romney – it's Ken Jennings isn't it?

    1. HistoriCat

      Isn't "can't stand Mitt Romney" pretty much pointless in narrowing this down? Who the hell can stand Romney?

    1. zippy_w_pinhead

      Liddy is a classic example of what is wrong with tea bagger selective outrage. While they wail and moan about fast and furious, none of them seems to remember Liddy's famous radio comments about shooting ATF agents in the head, since they would be wearing Kevlar jackets

  8. DaveJ

    "He always said, pay your taxes for at least 10 or 12 years."

    Ah ha, because….er…what, ok now, what the hell does that even mean?

        1. bobbert

          People do, sometimes, misspeak. Or maybe he just has an old-guy weird sense of humor (not that I'd know anything about that).

  9. Oblios_Cap

    Chuck Warren, a Salt Lake Republican strategist who endorsed Romney in the primary and has fundraised for the younger Huntsman’s gubernatorial bid, dismissed the speculation as “ridiculous.”

    So the GOP strategist thinks that's ridiculous, but doesn't think the shit his party is throwing out there is beyond the pale? What a jackass.

  10. Mumbletypeg

    This rumor will end up where all those deflated balloons go. And speaking of sad sacks: I'm still waitin to hear what dark secret of Newty-Grinch's we were taunted in these same pages about, that Nancy Pelosi alluded to but wouldn't spill outright?

    1. 1stNewtontheMoon

      she didn't need to because newt's lead in the polls lasted about the same length of time as his marriages. no need for a cocktober surprise when your campaign fails before cocktober.

  11. SexySmurf

    Huntsman Sr. is business partners with Robert C. Gay (“business partners”), who was Bain’s managing director from 1998 to 2004 and perhaps knows the secrets.

    So the Gays did it! I knew it!

    1. OneYieldRegular

      I was going to say: if Romney was a Democrat, the FOX headline would be "Director of Bain Capital was Gay!"

    1. 1stNewtontheMoon

      kinda like how he chides his maid service for using illegals (not because it's illegal, but jeezzzus christ, y'all, i'm trying to run for president here).

  12. lochnessmonster

    Romney said he is unemployed like many other Americans…no income = no taxes or returns…

  13. SheriffRoscoe

    All I can say is, is that I'm hoping this little time bomb waits until mid-October to go off.

  14. Lionel[redacted]Esq

    As someone has pointed out, one of the reasons that Romney doesn't want to turn over his tax records is not because he runs a child prostitution ring out of Mexico (that is a plus in Republican circles, you can just hear Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter saying "Finally, we are getting something back from those illegals that have taken all our best fruit picking jobs!"), but because he doesn't want the church to know how much he has made, and that he hasn't properly tithed.

    Don't under estimate that the Church may not be happy with Mr. Romney keeping all his money for himself and his horse.

  15. mavenmaven

    I was hoping you'd at least leave up pics of the Huntsman girls, as our weekend fapping pic (and not Mema again).

  16. elburritodeluxe

    Isn't it clear to everyone that Reid makes shit like this up? Because he's fucking crazy?

  17. widestanceromance

    I am nourished by thoughts Willard will be undone by his own.*

    *some may have noticed I always refer to him as 'Willard' and not his last name or his porn name of 'Mittens.' I think Willard should not be allowed to dodge his own name. He gets to dodge everything else, after all.

  18. elburritodeluxe

    When Republican politicians or pundits say crazy shit like this the get a pass in the lamestream media because – hey they're Republicans! It would be Liberal media bias to point out that they're full of shit. Besides, Republicans aren't very smart, and they speak for the folks from the not very smart Heartlands. So give them a break!

    But when a Democrat says something dumb, holy shit, why is he degrading this nation's political discourse!

    1. bobbert

      Actually, that's where they store your genealogical history. And mine. And yours, and yours, and yours, and …

  19. Ducksworthy

    Nehor Queen of the Planet Kolob is on her way here in her beehive shaped spaceships to rescue the Romney Campaign for Mormon World Domination, or to destroy him. Depends. Look it up sheeple!

    1. rickmaci

      You guys really think that head helmet he wears is hair? Take off the crystal eyeglasses people!!!

  20. SayItWithWookies

    Huntsman's just about the only Mormon Republican anybody knows about — whereas I have no idea who else the guys are in the Bain Capital picture with all the dollar bills stuffed in their suits. Either way, I'm betting it was a rich white male.

  21. actor212

    I kind of picture Mitt calling Huntsman into his campaign office and closing the door.

    "I know it was you, John. You broke my heart. You broke my heart!"

    …and once he's left, to his henchman: " I don't want anything to happen to him while my mother's alive."

  22. barto

    Did Rafalca lose yet? That could be another tax deduction, you know. Not that he needs it, apparently.

  23. Steverino247

    It was a one-armed man. Unfortunately, we have a lot of them now thanks to that stupid bastard, W, sending them to Iraq for no fucking reason.

    1. Tundra Grifter

      On a somewhat more serious note, especially for a Friday afternoon, can't you just hear the cheers in every VA hospital in America for Oscar Pistorius?

      Best thing to come out of South Africa since Nelson Mandela. And Charlize Theron. Also.

      1. Steverino247

        I was able to speak to some of them personally last weekend and they were very pleased. I've seen a number of men with similar prosthetics (and beyond) at Walter Reed and various VA facilities since 2004. Very inspirational, all of them.

        1. bobbert

          Somebody twatted him a question about whether he had more than one set of legs, and he replied (1) walking, (2) sprinting, (3) party.

          1. Tundra Grifter

            I remember when Paul Newman played Earl Long and he liked to wear cowboy boots to bed for the traction. Maybe those "party legs" are really short – but with plenty of spring.

  24. Fred_Wertham_Jr

    Garbling what George Romney said about candidates releasing 10-12 years' worth of tax returns would indicate that Huntsman Sr. is senile. He's probably the source but just forgot about the whole thing.

  25. NYNYNYjr

    After saying Rom should release his returns Huntsman also said: “I loved George [Romney]. He always said, pay your taxes for at least 10 or 12 years.”

    What a humanitarian– you should pay your taxes for at least 10 years before doing the rich-person hide all your money thing. Then you can safely release your returns when running for president.

  26. mosjef

    High atop the Mother Church in downtown Salt Lake, Gideon is poised, trumpet to his lips, waiting for a halfway decent back beat to lay down some smoking tracks at the second coming of J. Christ. Tax this, mofo.

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