OOH A RUMOR TO SPREAD  2:45 pm August 10, 2012

Hot Blog Rumor: Maybe One of Those Huntsman Boys Gabbed To Harry Reid About Romney’s Taxes

by Jim Newell

And did you SEE what Ann was wearing? The Internet is rapidly zeroing in on the identity of Harry Reid’s source, the one who was like “oh yeah Harry, that guy, Romney, no taxes from that guy,” which Harry Reid reiterated on the Senate floor, destroying any semblance of what had previously been a sense of good faith and comity between the two parties in the World’s Greatest Deliberative Body. After a couple of weeks, Kos and Cannonfire nosed around a bit and found themselves with a lead: Oh, duh, it’s probably someone from the other rich Mormon political family that owns the other half of Utah, the Huntsmans — Jon Jr. and pop Jon Sr. They’re not the first to surmise that Reid’s source came from within powerful Mormon circles, where secrets do not appear to be safely kept. But they are the first to google around for a few more nuggets of circumstantial evidence and crap it out into a blog post, because why not?

Cannonfire goes with Jon Huntsman Jr., Kos with Jon Huntsman Sr. Some points made:

  • The Huntsmans are hella Morm, of course. As in they’re bigwigs in the church hierarchy; no clue if they’re into the actual Jesus-in-Missouri hoopla.
  • Huntsman Sr. is business partners with Robert C. Gay (“business partners”), who was Bain’s managing director from 1998 to 2004 and perhaps knows the secrets.
  • It’s unclear if the Huntsmans have invested in Bain, but Bain has invested heavily in Huntsman Sr.’s multibillion dollar Big Mac container corporation. Bain has also been considering buying Huntsman’s company in classic private equity incubus style, and maybe that makes the Huntsmans sad.
  • While Huntsman Sr. supports Romney’s campaign now — Huntsman Jr. is basically checked out at this point — it’s quite possible that there’s residual anger from the primary season, since every campaign that’s run against Mitt Romney has gone on to despise him deeply as a person.
  • Huntsman Sr. has donated to and, pushed for projects with, Harry Reid.
  • Just… umm… it’s gotta be one of the Huntsmans… right??
  • Maybe it is someone else. But maybe it is one of the Huntsmans??

McKay Coppins, the Mormon guy at Buzzfeed who is MAYBE ALSO THE REID SOURCE? (BECAUSE HE IS MORMON AND… OTHER STUFF?), called up some other Mormon politics guy to ask him about the rumors. (And, *sigh*, He engages in vulgar hate speech against bloggers to make his point. As though we marched all those years for nothing. We have theories about Big Foot and crop circles and space ships? Dude, we don’t want to “get into it,” but try googling your religion):

Chuck Warren, a Salt Lake Republican strategist who endorsed Romney in the primary and has fundraised for the younger Huntsman’s gubernatorial bid, dismissed the speculation as “ridiculous.”

“I mean, people who believe this are the same people who espouse a theory that Big Foot is making crop circles with his space ship,” said Warren, whose firm is Silver Bullet. “Besides the obvious fact that Mr. Huntsman is not Gov. Romney’s accountant… he is simply a more honorable man than that. He doesn’t work in the shadows, and because you donate $9,600 to someone, probably less than .0001% of what Harry Reid collected that cycle, doesn’t make them BFFs.”

Another Utah powerbroker who endorsed Huntsman in the primaries was similarly incredulous.

“Personally I would REALLY doubt [Huntsman Sr.] is behind this — Harry has tons of other dubious source possibility,” the source e-mailed. “And [Huntsman Sr.] is behind Mitt now, too.”

Gross. And now Huntsman Sr. himself has chimed in at Greg Sargent’s blog, saying he’s not the source (he would say that), but, in any event, Mitt Romney should release more tax returns:

But I just got off the phone with Huntsman, and he confirmed to me that he is not Reid’s source.

However, in a move that could be significant, Huntsman forcefully called on Romney to release his tax returns. This matters, because Huntsman is a longtime backer of Romney — he has long been close to Romney; he supported his early campaigns; he was the national finance chairman of Romney’s 2008 presidential campaign; and he has raised a lot of money for him over the years. (He backed his own son in the latest GOP primary.)

“I feel very badly that Mitt won’t release his taxes and won’t be fair with the American people,” Huntsman told me. In a reference to Romney’s father, who pioneered the release of returns as a presidential candidate, Huntsman said: “I loved George. He always said, pay your taxes for at least 10 or 12 years.”

“Mr. Romney ought to square with the American people and release his taxes like any other candidate,” Huntsman said. “I’ve supported Mitt all along. I wish him well. But I do think he should release his income taxes.”

All very interesting. But for now, we’ll go back to thinking the source was Chuck Schumer in a bad cowboy voice.

[Cannonfire, Kos, Buzzfeed]

 

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Goonemeritus August 10, 2012 at 2:49 pm

I’m guessing Mitt wishes he wasn’t such a mean girl to John during the primary now.

IncenseDebate August 10, 2012 at 2:50 pm

I hope this turn of event brings us back to Huntsman's hot daughters.

Tundra Grifter August 10, 2012 at 3:06 pm

Agreed. I had no idea Mr. Huntsman had a son.

Mahousu August 10, 2012 at 3:21 pm

It's John Hunstman's father who had the son. This sounds like a riddle.

As it happens, John Huntsman (Jr.) does have a son as well, named John of course – though I think he goes by Jon. (He also has another son named William, but that doesn't count.)

Tundra Grifter August 10, 2012 at 3:52 pm

Brothers and Sisters have I none?

Must not be a Mormon.

rickmaci August 10, 2012 at 3:10 pm

Am I the only one fapping over the thought one of the Huntsman filles is the new Deep Throat?

Angry_Marmot August 10, 2012 at 3:16 pm

You're just the first to admit it.

IncenseDebate August 10, 2012 at 3:18 pm

I'm already writing the screenplay for Vivid

Tundra Grifter August 10, 2012 at 3:54 pm

Brains, beauty, and a sense of humor is a tough combination to beat.

pinkocommi August 10, 2012 at 2:50 pm

Romney is an asshole. You can fully attribute that statement to Pinkocommi.

ph7 August 10, 2012 at 2:50 pm

One of the hot Huntsman daughters, Fawn Huntsman, smuggled Mitt's tax returns out of Bain offices in her underwear.

IncenseDebate August 10, 2012 at 2:51 pm

I want to sniff that out.

Nostrildamus August 10, 2012 at 2:57 pm

All the Huntsman daughters need to release their underwear.
For America!

IncenseDebate August 10, 2012 at 3:00 pm

Yes. Yes they do. For God and country.

Steverino247 August 10, 2012 at 3:47 pm

For "oh, my God!" and country.

/fixed

chicken_thief August 10, 2012 at 3:00 pm

So you saying then that Mitt really did pay zero taxes or that something in Fawn's crotch ate the ink off the 1040 and it just appears that nothing was paid?

IncenseDebate August 10, 2012 at 3:03 pm

These are questions that need answers.

TheGyrus August 10, 2012 at 3:01 pm

Except it was Mormon underwear, so not actually that hot.

actor212 August 10, 2012 at 3:05 pm

Once she's out of them, do you really care?

ph7 August 10, 2012 at 3:16 pm

You need Mormon sized underwear to hold one of Mitt's tax returns.

actor212 August 10, 2012 at 3:05 pm

This deserves a probing in-depth

ph7 August 10, 2012 at 3:16 pm

I'd like to chair the exploratory committee. All in favor, say "aye"

actor212 August 10, 2012 at 3:21 pm

I!

ChernobylSoup August 10, 2012 at 2:50 pm

As long as it keeps circling back to, "wasn't me, but he really ought to release those returns," I don't care who it was.

Baconzgood August 10, 2012 at 2:52 pm

"He always said, pay your taxes for at least 10 or 12 years.”

How about "pay your taxes EVERY YEAR like every other muther fucker in the country!!!!"

1stNewtontheMoon August 10, 2012 at 3:40 pm

turns out Mitt can't even meet his father's woeful standard on the paying your taxes front.

bumfug August 10, 2012 at 2:52 pm

Actually, it was the angel Moroni who appeared to Harry Reid and gave him Mitt's tax records inscribed on golden tablets.

arihaya August 10, 2012 at 4:07 pm

"And it came to pass that Angel Moroni spaketh to Harry Reid: "Thou shall proclaim that the assholes known as Mitt Romney hath not paid a dime of taxes". And Reid did so."

Comrade Wingtardd August 10, 2012 at 4:38 pm

Not Charlton Heston?

mannacler August 10, 2012 at 7:18 pm

Best comment ever.

DerrickWildcat August 10, 2012 at 2:52 pm

MORMON FIGHT! MORMON FIGHT! MORMON FIGHT!

Baconzgood August 10, 2012 at 2:54 pm

Are they allowed to fight? Or they like the Amish?

nounverb911 August 10, 2012 at 2:57 pm

The Amish are into scissoring (beards).

TavariousChinaSmith August 10, 2012 at 3:02 pm

They can sk*ll-f*ck each other as long as they don't cuss.

HeeHaw77 August 10, 2012 at 3:23 pm

Or drink caffeine

Ducksworthy August 10, 2012 at 3:26 pm

For your answer, Google Meadow Mountain Massacre.

1stNewtontheMoon August 10, 2012 at 3:41 pm

in fairness, they weren't massacring other mormons.

Ducksworthy August 12, 2012 at 3:55 pm

And they were pretending to be Indians so I guess the mutilation was permissible.

ChillBill August 10, 2012 at 3:03 pm

Do they throw golden plates or dirty magic undies at each other?

muthalovin August 10, 2012 at 2:53 pm

Hopefully Mittens paid his Mormon church dues! There would be a shitstorm if he didn't.

viennawoods13 August 10, 2012 at 3:08 pm

No… hopefully he didn't. Because that would be so much more fun to watch.

1stNewtontheMoon August 10, 2012 at 3:42 pm

no, hopefully he paid his church. and didn't pay his taxes. the alternative is to make his base actually like him.

rickmaci August 10, 2012 at 3:49 pm

Hopefully he didn't pay either and he is the pile of shit we think he is.

Pragmatist2 August 10, 2012 at 2:54 pm
coolhandnuke August 10, 2012 at 2:54 pm

It was one of the Osmonds, acting alone who leaked it–Lee Harvey Osmond.

IncenseDebate August 10, 2012 at 2:57 pm

Single leaker theory.

ph7 August 10, 2012 at 3:00 pm

But who was hiding in Marie's grassy knoll?

IncenseDebate August 10, 2012 at 3:04 pm

Those nutritionally balanced weight loss meals.

chicken_thief August 10, 2012 at 3:04 pm

Donnie? With a candlelabra? In the library?

mlle_derp August 10, 2012 at 3:32 pm

Wearing purple socks…

rickmaci August 10, 2012 at 3:49 pm

Magic bullet, magic undies. Either works for me.

Jus_Wonderin August 10, 2012 at 2:55 pm

“I loved George. He always said, pay your taxes for at least 10 or 12 years.”

Wait a minute. I haz a confuse.

Oblios_Cap August 10, 2012 at 2:55 pm

“I loved George. He always said, pay your taxes for at least 10 or 12 years.”

But no longer than that?

RadioBowels August 10, 2012 at 2:55 pm

Have they considered the lesser known brother, Mike Huntsman?

Oblios_Cap August 10, 2012 at 3:12 pm

Has anybody seen Mike Huntsman?

coolhandnuke August 10, 2012 at 3:14 pm

Rumor says he has a deep throat.

rickmaci August 10, 2012 at 3:51 pm

I heard it was only sore.

SorosBot August 10, 2012 at 2:56 pm

The source appears to be a high profile Mormon who knows a lot and can't stand Mitt Romney – it's Ken Jennings isn't it?

tihond August 10, 2012 at 3:06 pm

It would make Jennings even more dreamy.

HistoriCat August 10, 2012 at 3:23 pm

Isn't "can't stand Mitt Romney" pretty much pointless in narrowing this down? Who the hell can stand Romney?

SorosBot August 10, 2012 at 3:30 pm

Certainly not his dog.

Callyson August 10, 2012 at 2:56 pm

I love the smell of Republican infighting in the morning…or any other time…

SheriffRoscoe August 10, 2012 at 2:56 pm

My bet's on G. Gordon Liddy. He's a moron, right?

zippy_w_pinhead August 10, 2012 at 3:12 pm

Liddy is a classic example of what is wrong with tea bagger selective outrage. While they wail and moan about fast and furious, none of them seems to remember Liddy's famous radio comments about shooting ATF agents in the head, since they would be wearing Kevlar jackets

DaveJ August 10, 2012 at 2:57 pm

"He always said, pay your taxes for at least 10 or 12 years."

Ah ha, because….er…what, ok now, what the hell does that even mean?

IncenseDebate August 10, 2012 at 3:01 pm

Is he hinting that someone did NOT pay taxes for 10 or 12 years????

1stNewtontheMoon August 10, 2012 at 3:47 pm

that is such a weird and otherwise non sequitur quote.

bobbert August 10, 2012 at 6:39 pm

People do, sometimes, misspeak. Or maybe he just has an old-guy weird sense of humor (not that I'd know anything about that).

fartknocker August 10, 2012 at 2:57 pm

It was a blind accountant in Massachusetts.

actor212 August 10, 2012 at 3:01 pm

Thank god for blind accountants, or Mitt would be broke.

zippy_w_pinhead August 10, 2012 at 3:12 pm

and yet he had the nerve to tax them for their blindness, what an ingrate

actor212 August 10, 2012 at 3:26 pm

Nobody has ever called Mitt grateful

Oblios_Cap August 10, 2012 at 2:57 pm

Chuck Warren, a Salt Lake Republican strategist who endorsed Romney in the primary and has fundraised for the younger Huntsman’s gubernatorial bid, dismissed the speculation as “ridiculous.”

So the GOP strategist thinks that's ridiculous, but doesn't think the shit his party is throwing out there is beyond the pale? What a jackass.

Mumbletypeg August 10, 2012 at 2:58 pm

This rumor will end up where all those deflated balloons go. And speaking of sad sacks: I'm still waitin to hear what dark secret of Newty-Grinch's we were taunted in these same pages about, that Nancy Pelosi alluded to but wouldn't spill outright?

1stNewtontheMoon August 10, 2012 at 3:48 pm

she didn't need to because newt's lead in the polls lasted about the same length of time as his marriages. no need for a cocktober surprise when your campaign fails before cocktober.

bobbert August 10, 2012 at 6:37 pm

Newt's still breathing. Nancy has a number of faults, but wasting ammo ain't one.

SexySmurf August 10, 2012 at 2:58 pm

Huntsman Sr. is business partners with Robert C. Gay (“business partners”), who was Bain’s managing director from 1998 to 2004 and perhaps knows the secrets.

So the Gays did it! I knew it!

OneYieldRegular August 10, 2012 at 3:19 pm

I was going to say: if Romney was a Democrat, the FOX headline would be "Director of Bain Capital was Gay!"

actor212 August 10, 2012 at 2:59 pm

Gay Huntsman, huh?

I knew Little Red Riding Hood played into this somehow.

ChernobylSoup August 10, 2012 at 3:00 pm

I bet the source was white.

mlle_derp August 10, 2012 at 3:34 pm

Snow White! AND the Huntsmans…

1stNewtontheMoon August 10, 2012 at 3:49 pm

that's fucking brilliant (assuming there ever was a source).

Tundra Grifter August 10, 2012 at 3:55 pm

I've never met a Blah CPA.

arihaya August 10, 2012 at 4:44 pm

white and delightsome !!

actor212 August 10, 2012 at 3:00 pm

Y'know, I can actually see Mitt Romney giggling to his business partners about how he never pays taxes.

1stNewtontheMoon August 10, 2012 at 3:50 pm

kinda like how he chides his maid service for using illegals (not because it's illegal, but jeezzzus christ, y'all, i'm trying to run for president here).

GeorgiaBurning August 10, 2012 at 3:01 pm

Funny how these scandals always come back to that Snow White movie.

actor212 August 10, 2012 at 3:02 pm

I'm shocked, shocked I says, that Breitbart.com hasn't pursued this with the fervor of an Anthony Weiner tweetpic.

Jus_Wonderin August 10, 2012 at 3:09 pm

You'd think they would give the focus on this as it is a dick – not paying taxes.

rickmaci August 10, 2012 at 3:53 pm

Notsobreitbart.

ChillBill August 10, 2012 at 3:02 pm

Sounds to me like one of those "pranks" from the Hunstman girls.

chicken_thief August 10, 2012 at 3:08 pm

Book 'em, Danno! Let's put the cuffs on them and…. oh, shit, let the fun begin!

rickmaci August 10, 2012 at 3:54 pm

I am all in for getting punked by a Hunstman girl.

WhatTheHeck August 10, 2012 at 3:03 pm

Say, is that Horse of Anne’s, a talking horse?

zippy_w_pinhead August 10, 2012 at 3:14 pm

oh Wilbur! horses can't talk once they've made the trip to the Elmer's factory…

rickmaci August 10, 2012 at 3:54 pm

It's Willard.

Tundra Grifter August 10, 2012 at 3:56 pm

Stalking, not talking.

lochnessmonster August 10, 2012 at 3:06 pm

Romney said he is unemployed like many other Americans…no income = no taxes or returns…

SheriffRoscoe August 10, 2012 at 3:08 pm

All I can say is, is that I'm hoping this little time bomb waits until mid-October to go off.

Lionel[redacted]Esq August 10, 2012 at 3:10 pm

As someone has pointed out, one of the reasons that Romney doesn't want to turn over his tax records is not because he runs a child prostitution ring out of Mexico (that is a plus in Republican circles, you can just hear Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter saying "Finally, we are getting something back from those illegals that have taken all our best fruit picking jobs!"), but because he doesn't want the church to know how much he has made, and that he hasn't properly tithed.

Don't under estimate that the Church may not be happy with Mr. Romney keeping all his money for himself and his horse.

mavenmaven August 10, 2012 at 3:10 pm

I was hoping you'd at least leave up pics of the Huntsman girls, as our weekend fapping pic (and not Mema again).

Tundra Grifter August 10, 2012 at 3:10 pm

The Joseph Smith Code.

rickmaci August 10, 2012 at 3:56 pm

Bring'em Young.

Tundra Grifter August 10, 2012 at 3:57 pm

Bring'em Young. Treat 'em Rough. Teach 'em to Dance.

elburritodeluxe August 10, 2012 at 3:11 pm

Isn't it clear to everyone that Reid makes shit like this up? Because he's fucking crazy?

widestanceromance August 10, 2012 at 3:11 pm

I am nourished by thoughts Willard will be undone by his own.*

*some may have noticed I always refer to him as 'Willard' and not his last name or his porn name of 'Mittens.' I think Willard should not be allowed to dodge his own name. He gets to dodge everything else, after all.

elburritodeluxe August 10, 2012 at 3:13 pm

When Republican politicians or pundits say crazy shit like this the get a pass in the lamestream media because – hey they're Republicans! It would be Liberal media bias to point out that they're full of shit. Besides, Republicans aren't very smart, and they speak for the folks from the not very smart Heartlands. So give them a break!

But when a Democrat says something dumb, holy shit, why is he degrading this nation's political discourse!

zippy_w_pinhead August 10, 2012 at 3:14 pm

I'm betting it was the shadowy figure on the grassy knoll…

OneYieldRegular August 10, 2012 at 3:21 pm

Wait, Mormons aren't good at keeping secrets, the this is where they store the sacred texts?:
http://www.alwayssomethingcool.com/top-ten-post-a

1stNewtontheMoon August 10, 2012 at 3:56 pm

so that's where Hitler is lying in state…hmmm. always wondered.

bobbert August 10, 2012 at 6:34 pm

Actually, that's where they store your genealogical history. And mine. And yours, and yours, and yours, and …

Ducksworthy August 10, 2012 at 3:21 pm

Nehor Queen of the Planet Kolob is on her way here in her beehive shaped spaceships to rescue the Romney Campaign for Mormon World Domination, or to destroy him. Depends. Look it up sheeple!

rickmaci August 10, 2012 at 3:58 pm

You guys really think that head helmet he wears is hair? Take off the crystal eyeglasses people!!!

SayItWithWookies August 10, 2012 at 3:22 pm

Huntsman's just about the only Mormon Republican anybody knows about — whereas I have no idea who else the guys are in the Bain Capital picture with all the dollar bills stuffed in their suits. Either way, I'm betting it was a rich white male.

actor212 August 10, 2012 at 3:25 pm

I kind of picture Mitt calling Huntsman into his campaign office and closing the door.

"I know it was you, John. You broke my heart. You broke my heart!"

…and once he's left, to his henchman: " I don't want anything to happen to him while my mother's alive."

rickmaci August 10, 2012 at 3:59 pm

From the Kolobfather, right?

1stNewtontheMoon August 10, 2012 at 3:59 pm

and then, true to form, they go kill actor greg kinnear.

deanbooth August 10, 2012 at 3:30 pm

Warren, whose firm is Silver Bullet.

Warren, whose Silver Bullet is firm = Best Bond villain ever!

barto August 10, 2012 at 3:46 pm

Did Rafalca lose yet? That could be another tax deduction, you know. Not that he needs it, apparently.

Steverino247 August 10, 2012 at 3:52 pm

It was a one-armed man. Unfortunately, we have a lot of them now thanks to that stupid bastard, W, sending them to Iraq for no fucking reason.

Tundra Grifter August 10, 2012 at 4:03 pm

On a somewhat more serious note, especially for a Friday afternoon, can't you just hear the cheers in every VA hospital in America for Oscar Pistorius?

Best thing to come out of South Africa since Nelson Mandela. And Charlize Theron. Also.

Steverino247 August 10, 2012 at 5:30 pm

I was able to speak to some of them personally last weekend and they were very pleased. I've seen a number of men with similar prosthetics (and beyond) at Walter Reed and various VA facilities since 2004. Very inspirational, all of them.

bobbert August 10, 2012 at 6:31 pm

Somebody twatted him a question about whether he had more than one set of legs, and he replied (1) walking, (2) sprinting, (3) party.

Tundra Grifter August 10, 2012 at 7:55 pm

I remember when Paul Newman played Earl Long and he liked to wear cowboy boots to bed for the traction. Maybe those "party legs" are really short – but with plenty of spring.

Tundra Grifter August 10, 2012 at 7:54 pm

So247:

Dulce.

Fred_Wertham_Jr August 10, 2012 at 4:07 pm

Garbling what George Romney said about candidates releasing 10-12 years' worth of tax returns would indicate that Huntsman Sr. is senile. He's probably the source but just forgot about the whole thing.

NYNYNYjr August 10, 2012 at 4:42 pm

After saying Rom should release his returns Huntsman also said: “I loved George [Romney]. He always said, pay your taxes for at least 10 or 12 years.”

What a humanitarian– you should pay your taxes for at least 10 years before doing the rich-person hide all your money thing. Then you can safely release your returns when running for president.

MinAgain August 10, 2012 at 6:45 pm

The Huntsman girls post a satirical video on YouTube in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1…

TribecaMike August 10, 2012 at 8:45 pm

And it's embarrassing.

mosjef August 10, 2012 at 6:47 pm

High atop the Mother Church in downtown Salt Lake, Gideon is poised, trumpet to his lips, waiting for a halfway decent back beat to lay down some smoking tracks at the second coming of J. Christ. Tax this, mofo.

ttommyunger August 10, 2012 at 11:44 pm

Looks like Mittens is going to have to choke a bitch.

TribecaMike August 11, 2012 at 1:38 am

Nothing personal, Utahans, but are you all this butt ugly?

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