SIKH MOVES BRO  7:15 pm August 6, 2012

Nice Nonviolent Faith You Have Here, Shame If Anything Happened To It

by Jesse Taylor

sikhs asking for itInevitably, someone was going to use yesterday’s mass shooting in a Wisconsin Sikh gurdwara to argue something insanely stupid. Glenn “Instapundit” Reynolds has thankfully stepped in and made it so that we no longer have to wait.

The 6 Sikh temple shooting victims identified; Satwant Singh Kaleka died trying to fight off shooter. Heroic. But it’s too bad he didn’t have a gun.

It really was too bad that a member of a faith fundamentally devoted to non-violence didn’t bring a gun into a place of worship in case he had to kill someone, like a white supremacist or a rival emcee. Really, this is just a matter of poor planning on the part of the Sikh religion. If they’d been Christian, they would have been checking their gun sights and blowing the Chick-fil-A crumbs out of the chamber. And when’s the last time you heard about a Christian church getting attacked by a domestic terrorist?

I mean a white Christian church, come on.

P.S.: Wisconsin just passed a concealed carry law last year. Presumably, this mass shooting only slipped through the cracks because Sikhs want terrible things to happen to them.

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Maman August 6, 2012 at 7:19 pm

Brown religious types are always in season in America because of the baby Jesus

UW8316154 August 6, 2012 at 8:36 pm

That's "white baby Jesus" to you!

TribecaMike August 6, 2012 at 10:08 pm

That Jesus wasn't a cute li'l blue-eyed Viking kid explains why his "missing years" weren't a big deal in the tabloids of his time.

kittensdontlie August 6, 2012 at 10:12 pm

Add one part crazed psycho with a NRA-approved gun , with two parts of a violence-infused society and a dash of christian intolerance,…and we make yet another sorrowful tragedy.

MittBorg August 6, 2012 at 11:43 pm

Why don't people tell me these things? (looks around nervously)

CromulentLogin August 6, 2012 at 7:20 pm

If only someone had warned us about extremists recruiting angry disillusioned former military members.

anniegetyerfun August 6, 2012 at 7:22 pm

Well, Sikhs are technically required to carry a kirpan. But it's not much good against a semi-automatic.

One_who_wanders August 7, 2012 at 9:29 am

You can just imagine how happy Joe Six-pack would be if all the Sikhs in America started packing . . .

ChernobylSoup August 6, 2012 at 7:22 pm

I give up.

AlterNewt August 6, 2012 at 7:40 pm

Don't.

SayItWithWookies August 7, 2012 at 12:07 am

It just encourages them.

valthemus August 6, 2012 at 8:08 pm

I'm sure someone carved those words into a cuneiform tablet 5000 years ago, scribbled them on papyrus, inscribed them on an illustrated manuscript and printed them on a broadsheet. It never seems to take.

Just remember: THEY LANDED ANOTHER FREAKIN' PROBE ON MARS, BAY-BEE!!

TribecaMike August 7, 2012 at 1:44 am

Giving up is better than giving in.

grandinquisitor August 7, 2012 at 9:54 am

I think I will just opt to get drunk and obstinate instead. Someone go ahead and call my attorney now.

Blunderthing August 6, 2012 at 7:22 pm

You can have my non violent religion when you pry it out of my forgiving hands.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 12:38 am

dead forviging hands.

sewollef August 7, 2012 at 8:29 am

Of course Sikhs aren't non-violent, but, and I quote from the never-wrong Wikipedia:

"In the years to 1945, 14 Victoria Crosses [the highest British military medal] were awarded to the Sikhs, a per capita record given the size of the Sikh Regiments. In 2002, the names of all Sikh VC and George Cross winners were inscribed on the pavilion monument of the Memorial Gates on Constitution Hill next to Buckingham Palace, London."

Sikh regiments fought — in the British Army — in both World Wars and in the many historical wars against moghuls at home in Punjab.

Ellie K August 8, 2012 at 4:18 am

Sewollef, yes. That's the reason I stopped by here to comment. I even spent about an hour on the website that was mentioned in the article.

Sikhs have a long tradition as formidable, highly disciplined warriors. That doesn't mean that Sikhs who live in Wisconsin in peacetime were behaving out of character because they weren't carrying firearms. But it is annoying to see Sikh belief described as a non-violent faith. There are many other better premises to base this news story on. What happened was wrong, appalling, bad, regardless of the Sikh faith.

InstaPundit should try checking its facts next time.

anniegetyerfun August 6, 2012 at 7:23 pm

My grandmother was killed when a truck hit her as she crossed the street. Tragic. But it’s too bad she didn’t have a gun and a jetpack (also, better eyesight).

ChernobylSoup August 6, 2012 at 7:41 pm

Jet packs will solve a lot of the world's problems. Have you registered for the jet pack infant carrier at Target?

BigSkullF*ckingDog August 6, 2012 at 7:25 pm

This guy makes me feel shooty. And I don't even own a gun.

FlownOver August 6, 2012 at 7:28 pm

Stabby will do. I'll hold him still (Yeah, I know… I know… "with votes.")

C_R_Eature August 6, 2012 at 7:51 pm

I do, but all of my training involves being safe and responsible and not pointing them at people, at anytime and for any reason. In addition, shooty stuff in anger is Bad Karma.

That doesn't preclude me from putting Glen Reynolds in a hammerlock while you repeatedly kick him in the nuts until you feel better, though. As long as I can get a few shots in.

EDIT: Of Course, we would be metaphorically Kicking Glen Reynolds in the Nuts – With Votes!

mlle_derp August 6, 2012 at 9:54 pm

Votes? Is that the new footwear the kidz are wearin' these days? Hard to keep up since my onion-on-a-belt days…

C_R_Eature August 6, 2012 at 10:17 pm

It's kinder and gentler than the older Horrorshow Kick-Boots term. But we're all trying to conform to the Rules. Really trying.

YasserArraFeck August 7, 2012 at 2:00 am

A good stiff vote to the 'nads will certainly get ones attention – as the Chinese might say "That's the last election I'm going to have for a while….."

MittBorg August 6, 2012 at 11:45 pm

Oh, definitely. In fact, I feel a strong bout of voteishness coming on right about now.

C_R_Eature August 6, 2012 at 11:52 pm

One Foot, One Vote. Repeat as necessary.

MittBorg August 7, 2012 at 12:06 am

Makes me wish I'd gone with ballet. Those fuckers can KICK.

Monsieur_Grumpe August 6, 2012 at 7:56 pm

I'll lend you my favorite pitch fork. His name is Pokey.

TribecaMike August 6, 2012 at 10:09 pm

I thought I was the only one who named his implements.

HogeyeGrex August 7, 2012 at 5:48 am

Well, Elvis had "Little Elvis."

MilwaukeeKent August 6, 2012 at 8:45 pm

I'll put him on my "To be sucker-punched" list, right after David Addington and Bill Kristol. I had to check Google images but he definitely has enough smarm to make the list.

tessiee August 6, 2012 at 9:19 pm

*googles images*
OK, in the picture I saw, he and breitbart are standing with their arms around each other's shoulders, and both look all smiley and happy. That alone makes him deserve a cockpunch (by "him", I meant Glen Reynolds, but Breitbart too, of course).

Also, has any picture of Breitbart ever been taken wherein he *doesn't* look like a homeless wino?

MilwaukeeKent August 6, 2012 at 11:31 pm

Now that you mention it, no. Now that he's safely dead, if I ever found myself in proximity of his grave, in possession of wine, I'd pour some on it.

MittBorg August 6, 2012 at 11:46 pm

Don't waste good wine. Drink it first. It's the thought that counts, after all.

C_R_Eature August 6, 2012 at 11:49 pm

Be sure to pass it through your kidneys, first.

tessiee August 7, 2012 at 12:23 am

Run it through your kidneys fir–
Oh, DAMN it!!

zippy_w_pinhead August 6, 2012 at 11:35 pm

you can still cockpunch Breitfart. Hell, I'll help ya dig up his moldy corpse…

Not_So_Much August 6, 2012 at 7:29 pm

We should all be Yosemite Sam all the fucking time.

Beowoof August 6, 2012 at 7:41 pm

Too many of these guys who have Clint Eastwood fantasies would turn into Wile E. Coyote super genius given the chance.

weejee August 6, 2012 at 8:04 pm
TribecaMike August 7, 2012 at 1:01 am

Oiks!

iburl August 6, 2012 at 7:50 pm

Tea party rally is pretty much nothing but Yosemites and Anti-Semites.

anniegetyerfun August 6, 2012 at 7:55 pm

I see what you did there.

viennawoods13 August 6, 2012 at 8:09 pm

That is SO much win right there.

MinAgain August 6, 2012 at 8:14 pm

Dude.

glasspusher August 6, 2012 at 8:59 pm

This.

tessiee August 6, 2012 at 9:20 pm

I think I may have gone dyslexic for a minute reading that, but I'm better now.

BigSkullF*ckingDog August 6, 2012 at 8:03 pm

"Maybe that'll learn ya to keep yrr mouth shut."
PEW! PEW! PEW!

CleverSobriquet August 7, 2012 at 10:20 am

in keeping the the meme that should be le pew! le pew! le pew!

littlebigdaddy August 6, 2012 at 8:45 pm

I wanna be Marvin the Martian.

tessiee August 6, 2012 at 9:21 pm

Dibs on the Q-37 space modulator!

MilwaukeeKent August 7, 2012 at 2:02 am

Isn't that the character who taught Christopher Walken his vocal moves? I think it. Is. But I'm not. Sure.

tessiee August 6, 2012 at 9:22 pm

"We should all be Yosemite Sam all the fucking time."

"OOooh, Ah hates them turban-wearin' varmints!"

TribecaMike August 7, 2012 at 1:03 am

I don't mind towel heads, just as long as they don't go in the pool.

Chet Kincaid_ August 7, 2012 at 12:33 am

Rootin'!! And Tootin'!!

mwittier August 6, 2012 at 7:30 pm

Why stop there? Too bad no one had a flame thrower. Or a tank. Or Glenn Reynolds as a human shield.

Ducksworthy August 6, 2012 at 8:11 pm

Or Glenn Reynolds as a rectal cannon, just stuff him with gunpowder and scrap metal and touch him off. Very effective.

Doktor Zoom August 6, 2012 at 9:48 pm

I'm afraid I'm going to have to dispute that "human" part there.

YasserArraFeck August 7, 2012 at 2:04 am

How about a "meat shield"?

BoatOfVelociraptors August 7, 2012 at 6:51 am

That will get your Gears going.

Negropolis August 6, 2012 at 10:29 pm

Yes, a human shield that would have taken all of the "votes" flying at him.

SayItWithWookies August 7, 2012 at 12:09 am

Really — why build a civilization when we can all be crouching behind walls shooting at each other as The LORD intended?

Negropolis August 7, 2012 at 12:13 am

"There is no such thing as civilization."

-Reworked Maggie Thatcher.

SayItWithWookies August 7, 2012 at 12:28 am

Someone (variously attributed) said that America is the only nation to have gone from barbarism to degeneracy without the interval of civilization. I'm not sure that we were the first, but we certainly have perfected the craft.

Negropolis August 7, 2012 at 12:54 am

Efficiency!

I mean, we all know that civilization costs too many tax dollars. Back to the trees with us.

YasserArraFeck August 7, 2012 at 2:04 am

Cutting out the Middleman – it's the Amercian way!!

HogeyeGrex August 7, 2012 at 5:54 am

AKA, American Exceptionalism.

emmelemm August 6, 2012 at 7:31 pm

I seem to recall Jesus saying something about turning the other cheek?

I guess Sikhs are better Christians than American Muscular Jesus Worshippers™.

TribecaMike August 6, 2012 at 7:40 pm

I seem to recall Jesus saying something about how "this generation will not pass" before he came back.

SayItWithWookies August 7, 2012 at 12:11 am

Wait — is this competition a high-jump or a limbo? I forget.

Mittens Howell, III August 6, 2012 at 7:31 pm

Just 'Heroic' would have done. Dontcha think, Glenn?

anniegetyerfun August 6, 2012 at 7:56 pm

Conservative means never having to stop while you're ahead.

Mittens Howell, III August 6, 2012 at 8:08 pm

It also means never having to stop while you're a dickhead.

miss_grundy August 6, 2012 at 8:45 pm

It also means never having to say you're sorry……oh, wait, that was Love Story.

Maybe we could string up all the haters and turn them into pinatas……..with votes…..

redarmyzombie August 6, 2012 at 9:46 pm

Votes and a big, heavy 2×4…

C_R_Eature August 6, 2012 at 7:31 pm

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

A Gun for a Gun makes the whole world dead.

It's not much, but it's all I can muster right now.

BigSkullF*ckingDog August 6, 2012 at 8:04 pm

A beer for a beer makes the whole world drunk?

C_R_Eature August 6, 2012 at 8:10 pm

I will fucking drink to that, BSFD.

Wait…I am!

AlterNewt August 6, 2012 at 9:56 pm

Maybe Jesus can help you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_-sskQWfK4&f

C_R_Eature August 6, 2012 at 10:11 pm

That's the most helpful thing I've seen in a while. Thanks.

AlterNewt August 6, 2012 at 10:16 pm

You're most welcome. Thought you might like it, based on previous link swappings.

C_R_Eature August 6, 2012 at 10:27 pm

We do seem to do that a lot around here, don't we?

Here. Enjoy.

TribecaMike August 7, 2012 at 1:04 am

Gimme that old time two thousand year old rotted corpse religion.

MittBorg August 7, 2012 at 12:08 am

Aw, sweetie. (Hugs the CRE)

ChernobylSoup August 6, 2012 at 7:31 pm

If you spend any time in a "Christian" church, they're always droning on about "surrendering" to Jesus. I have a hard time making the connection to that eventual hatred that pours forth from most of them.

Ducksworthy August 6, 2012 at 8:13 pm

Surrender to Jeebus and fuck your fellow humans. A simple creed for simple people.

BerkeleyBear August 6, 2012 at 8:34 pm

That's because you think too much about those pesky words and their meanings. Even for Evangelicals, the vast majority see "surrender to Jesus" as at most meaning "everything I feel must be right" and so no need for ongoing efforts at purging hatred or basic self-examination.

Negropolis August 6, 2012 at 10:31 pm

Surrending to Jesus sounds and awful lot like submission to Allah in Islam. Someone get me a chalkboard….

horsedreamer_1 August 7, 2012 at 7:32 am

Issa bin Mariam al-Nazriti Libel!!!

zippy_w_pinhead August 6, 2012 at 11:38 pm

that's because going to church makes you a Christian about the same way standing in your garage makes you a car

YasserArraFeck August 7, 2012 at 2:07 am

Yeah, but if'n you were concealed carrying, you wouldn't have to surrender to anyone…..

Willardbot9000_V2.5 August 7, 2012 at 3:25 pm

That's an interesting point and there have been studies conducted in regards to how Christians can do such awful, hatefilled shit and still be holier than thou. The best resource is Bob Altemeyer's social science study on authoritarians, particularly true of the followers. Essentially, without the space to be more in-depth, these people are attracted to the cheap grace of Evangelism because it gives them the feeling of being holier than thou without having to do any work to become so. The other thing is when they do something that's clearly wrong they compartmentalize and then expel any feelings of conscience via confession. The study is very interesting and explains wingnut followers very, very well.

ChernobylSoup August 7, 2012 at 3:37 pm

Thanks, Willardbot. I'll look into Altemeyer's work.

AlterNewt August 6, 2012 at 7:33 pm

More guns.

Res ipsa loquitur.

littlebigdaddy August 6, 2012 at 8:48 pm

Indeed they do.

Mittens Howell, III August 6, 2012 at 7:33 pm

NRA: fundamentally devoted to violence

zippy_w_pinhead August 6, 2012 at 7:33 pm

Teh Stoopid is strong in this one…

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 12:41 am

Too bad Reynolds doesn't carry a concealed brain*. It would have protected him against making such asinine statements.

*outlawed in Texas.

Negropolis August 7, 2012 at 3:01 am

Too which I'm obliged to offer with equal snark: "This one? How about 'All of them, Katie'"?

drstrabismus August 6, 2012 at 7:33 pm

The Sikhs fundamentally non-violent? Aren't they famous for being great soldiers?

Dashboard Buddha August 6, 2012 at 7:45 pm
sullivanst August 6, 2012 at 7:57 pm

You'd certainly expect this category to be smaller if they were fundamentally non-violent, wouldn't you?

anniegetyerfun August 6, 2012 at 8:02 pm

Sikhs, like Gurkhas, are bad-ass motherfuckers when the time calls for it. And it's not like Sikhdom has been without violence and controversy (see Gandhi, Indira). But since the 1980s, Sikhs have made great strides in tamping down on extremism in their own communities.

The Sikh diaspora in the US, like the Muslim one, just wants to get by.

I should point out here that I have a terrible, embarrassing fetish for Sikhs. I tried desperately to get my husband to wear a turban for our wedding (hey, he's brown), but he refused.

viennawoods13 August 6, 2012 at 8:13 pm

Sadly, they are not without a terrorist element. It was Sikh extremists who blew up Air India Flight 182 in 1985. So non-violent religion? Not so much. But to open fire on an innocent congregation- what the hell is happening in this world?

anniegetyerfun August 6, 2012 at 8:16 pm

I don't think there's a single religion that can claim to have totally non-violent adherents. But following the violence of the 1980s, when there were, like, weekly stabbings at the Vancouver temple, it has calmed down quite a bit.

EatFrankRich August 6, 2012 at 8:53 pm

Even we Quakers had Nixon. Sigh.

viennawoods13 August 6, 2012 at 8:59 pm

No, agreed, it's become much less violent since then.

MittBorg August 7, 2012 at 12:10 am

Actually, if there was a prize for that, the Jains would probably take it. Jain monks and nuns wear veils so they will not accidentally inhale (and thereby kill) small flying life. They are forbidden to harm any living creature, so they do not eat things that grow under the ground.

sullivanst August 6, 2012 at 8:53 pm

You could make a reasonable case that Indira Gandhi had it coming, what with the widespread murders of Sikhs she at least tolerated, if not encouraged, for years before her assassination. Indian history is absurdly complicated, and not only because of the British Empire.

Nevertheless, a religion devoted to nonviolence wouldn't require it's adherents to strive to be "Warrior Saints", now, would it?

anniegetyerfun August 6, 2012 at 10:25 pm

Oh, I'm not defending her by any stretch of the imagination. Also, what happened to Sikhs following her assassination was horrific – my husband was living in Delhi at the time, and they were sent home from school. A mob formed just outside of his house and marched down the street to set fire to a home where a young Sikh couple had just moved after getting married. The mob cheered while the couple burned to death. Of course, India was (and still occasionally is) such a tinderbox of religious and ethnic strife.

And now, apparently, so is the US! Uh, progress?

C_R_Eature August 6, 2012 at 8:09 pm

Perhaps you're thinking of the Gurkhas?
Because those cats will fuck you up.

tessiee August 6, 2012 at 9:25 pm

And Little Walter will cut a bitch.

C_R_Eature August 6, 2012 at 10:00 pm

Oh, Baby you got that right.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 12:48 am

Megh.

C_R_Eature August 7, 2012 at 5:54 am

Imaging seeing that word as the Last One, like Dodge on the front of a truck.

DerrickWildcat August 7, 2012 at 7:40 am
Tundra Grifter August 6, 2012 at 7:34 pm

I think it's going to turn out that another right wing nut didn't study his "Field Guide to Muslins" and gunned down some people wearing turbans thinking he was taking another scalp for 9/11.

Apparently the first Sikh killed in such an incident was murdered less than a week after we were attacked. It might have been the next day. Two Sikh gentlemen were recently murdered in Northern California – again, mistaken identity.

Swampgas_Man August 6, 2012 at 7:57 pm

WHOOPSIE!!

anniegetyerfun August 6, 2012 at 8:04 pm

It was the day after 9/11, I think, and I remember one of the Sikh communities at the time offering to write a guide that would help Angry Americans identify Sikhs versus Muslims based on headwear, until Muslims were, like, "Uh, thanks a whole fucking lot, assholes" and the Sikhs dudes were, all, "Oh, right. Sorry."

sullivanst August 6, 2012 at 9:00 pm

Given that Sikhi instructs its adherents to fight for the rights of all people, not just Sikhs, saying "them over there, not us" was a rather un-Sikh thing to do. Not as un-Sikh as most of what the Talibangelicals say and do daily is un-Christian, but still…

MittBorg August 7, 2012 at 12:13 am

Nehi, yaar, when someone's about to fucking mow you and all your family down, of COURSE you're going to point at the other guys and say "It wasn't us! THEY'RE the droids you're looking for!" Right before hotfooting it to some safe hideout, na?

Tundra Grifter August 7, 2012 at 11:43 am

I can see the cartoon. Dude looking at an open book. Picture of a Sikh on the left-hand page: "No." Picture of a Muslin on the right-hand page: "Yes."

Of course, there's one other problem with that "joke." Just what does a Muslin look like?

anniegetyerfun August 7, 2012 at 11:56 am

:) It had to do with various head covering. Tight turban = Sikh. Loosely wrapped turbany thing? Probably Muslim. Beanie? Jew. SLIGHTLY larger beanie, maybe crocheted or with lots of embroidery? Muslim.

horsedreamer_1 August 7, 2012 at 7:14 pm

Considering the most populous Muslim nation is Indonesia, with 220 million Muslims, & that the Muslim population of India is also around 200 mil (20% of 1 billion), which account for about 1/3 of the World's Muslims, & then including West African & Subsaharan Muslims, I would think a composite Muslim would look like Tiger Woods or Dev Patel. Neither of whom is a Muslim. (Well, Patel might be, but I assumed he was Hindu or nonreligious.)

Ellie K August 8, 2012 at 5:08 am

Horse Dreamer! That is much too rational ;o) You cite widely accepted demographic data, and draw logical conclusions from it, without making any racist assumptions along the way. You might even be humorous, but if so, it is respectful, mild e.g. the statement that serial philanderer Tiger Woods is not a Muslim (nor any other religion… what he did would not pass muster as NON-religious ethical behavior, either). Please consider commenting more often!

YasserArraFeck August 7, 2012 at 2:10 am

Listen Buddy – a Raghead is a Raghead is a Raghead. Which part don't you unnerstand?

Tundra Grifter August 7, 2012 at 11:40 am

YAF: Do you remember the state legislator – I believe from Tennessee, but this was a number of years ago – who said we need to screen those folks wearing a diaper held by a fanbelt on their heads when they tryi to get on an airplane?

On a more serious note, once again we return to the Teutonically-named Department of Homeland Security report warning us about Domestic Terrorism, particularly the "lone wolf."

The right wing nutz were up in arms over that – yet as time goes by, sadly, it proves more and more to be true…

Riggsveda August 6, 2012 at 7:36 pm

I seem to recall George Tiller being shot to death in his church. But that wasn't "domestic terrorism" because abortion! If he had only taken Glenn's advice…

Fraudulently_Joe August 6, 2012 at 7:57 pm

You mean the part where he started carrying a gun after the first time he was shot? Didn't really help him, somehow. Almost as though carrying a gun doesn't actually stop someone from shooting and killing you first.

But that can't be right, because we all know that guns prevent all crime, ever.

shelwood46 August 6, 2012 at 11:31 pm

He forgot to mention that you have to not just carry, but also always have the gun drawn and spin in slow circles to scan for the enemy. At church.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 12:55 am

The NRA's basic premise is that the other guy is going to respect yer Second Amenedment rights, and demand a duel. So obviously, the problem with Amercia is the lack of respect for the Second Amendment. It's common sense, people!

ugodOH August 6, 2012 at 8:25 pm

There was also that one old crazy dude who shot up that Unitarian church in Tennessee a few years ago, but I think they're too non-judgmental to be considered Christian.

tessiee August 6, 2012 at 9:31 pm

I went to the Unitarian church near me a couple of times, but on Easter Sunday, the service's theme was cherry blossoms in Japan. I'm all in favor of cherry blossoms, multiculturalism, inclusiveness, yadda yadda — but if you consider it some kind of faux pas to mention Judeo-Christian holidays on *Easter Sunday*, you're too "Portlandia" for me.

horsedreamer_1 August 6, 2012 at 10:55 pm

Portland doesn't even have Unitarians. All the weed makes them too lethargic on Sundays even for fake church.

BoatOfVelociraptors August 7, 2012 at 7:13 am

There are the church services performed by chicken hed. http://noisebored.com/?tag=chickenhed-church

StarsUponThars August 6, 2012 at 7:37 pm

yeah yeah, and if a slut wears steel panties she won't get raped.

TribecaMike August 6, 2012 at 7:38 pm

I wish the fundies would read up on and be inspired by a certain event at Masada in the first century CE.

Beowoof August 6, 2012 at 7:42 pm

Yeah, like they read. If it isn't on the 700 Club or Fox they don't know it.

TribecaMike August 6, 2012 at 8:00 pm

Way too Jewish anyway.

MissTaken August 6, 2012 at 7:51 pm

Masada? That sounds furrin.

TribecaMike August 6, 2012 at 9:32 pm

I think its a Korean car or sumpin'.

Blueb4sinrise August 6, 2012 at 8:42 pm

Related. They found the ship that took Mary Mag and Jesus Jr. away.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19153732

sullivanst August 6, 2012 at 9:13 pm

I guess that must've been after they planted the tree on Glastonbury Tor.

Blueb4sinrise August 6, 2012 at 9:28 pm

See. Two weeks ago I didn't even what a 'tor' was. Thanks Olympics!!!

sullivanst August 6, 2012 at 9:52 pm

Once upon a time, I lived less than 30 miles from it.

TribecaMike August 6, 2012 at 9:56 pm

Michael row your boat ashore, hoopsydoopsee…

MosesInvests August 7, 2012 at 12:26 am

El'azar ben Ya'ir libel!

MissTaken August 6, 2012 at 7:39 pm

Jesus died on a cross for mankind's sins. Heroic. But it’s too bad he didn’t have a gun.

HateMachine August 6, 2012 at 7:47 pm

I seem to recall Jeebus rebuking the fuck out of Peter for exercising his Second Amendment Remedies©

Fare la Volpe August 6, 2012 at 7:52 pm

"Jeebus rebuking the fuck out of Peter."

I think I own that porno.

HateMachine August 6, 2012 at 7:57 pm

Hell, that porno is probably beautifully illuminated in some manuscript deep in the vaults of the Vatican.

zippy_w_pinhead August 6, 2012 at 7:57 pm

I think it stars Jenna Jameson

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 1:33 am

So "turn the other cheek" means something entirely different? The more you know…

MinAgain August 6, 2012 at 8:12 pm

If swords are outlawed, only outlaws will have swords.

Guppy August 6, 2012 at 8:26 pm

He was rebuked for using a sword. Jesus rebuked him for being a pussy.

tessiee August 6, 2012 at 9:58 pm

"Jeebus rebuking the fuck out of Peter for exercising his Second Amendment Remedies"

Yes, and *then* who loked foolish when that fig tree got uppity and needed to be taught a lesson?

ChernobylSoup August 6, 2012 at 7:50 pm

In Soviet Rome, Christ crucifies you!

mwittier August 6, 2012 at 7:54 pm

He would've looked really hot, ridin' that dinosaur, with a six-shooter.

Or shootin' wolves, from a pterodactyl.

Blueb4sinrise August 6, 2012 at 8:42 pm

This is sickly brilliant.

Beowoof August 6, 2012 at 7:44 pm

I believe we may find these dopes would have a difficult time if they were ever caught in a real situation. They think they are characters played by Clint Eastwood, rather than fat, slow, dimwitted cretins they are.

MittBorg August 7, 2012 at 12:18 am

That's the whole problem.. When some fat weenis who can barely keep his pants pulled up to hide both beer gut and rear smile starts braggin' on how he's gonna take down armed bad doods who are aggressing with intent, I just have to hide my smile. They can barely squeeze their enormous overhangs into the fuckin' elevator to take a ride to the office. I can't see them fighting off Wickedness and coming out on top.

Trannysurprise August 6, 2012 at 7:46 pm

Too bad Glen "Instaasshole" Reynolds band "The Nebraska Guitar Militia" wasn't there.

They could have been all militia-y on them.

iburl August 6, 2012 at 7:48 pm

Too bad we don't all have guns that have unlimited ammo that we could just spray in every direction until the only living people are the subjects of Dick Cheney, King of the Mole People.

edgydrifter August 6, 2012 at 7:48 pm

They were practically asking for it, weren't they?

tessiee August 7, 2012 at 12:34 am

I heard they were saying their prayers in an "antagonistic" manner.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 1:38 am

Hey, if you're gonna walk around in Real Amercia™ dressed like that*, you're asking for trouble.

*different

mbobier August 6, 2012 at 7:50 pm

I have a genuine sad over this. It's bad enough when ignorant white supremacist nuts assault actual Muslims becuz, well, Terrists! and all, but to assault Sihks because they wear turbans, which prompts the nuts to THINK they must be Muslims….. It makes my head hurt.

tessiee August 6, 2012 at 10:21 pm

I get what you're saying, but I had a very nice Muslim co-worker. She showed up, sat at her desk, did her work, minded her business, and bothered no one. Every so often, she'd be grocery shopping or waiting for a bus, and some Real Amurrkin [tm] would shove her off the sidewalk with some delightfully patriotic comment like, "Thanks for 9/11, rag head!"

Persecuting the "right" group isn't that great, either (although I realize you weren't suggesting that).

Tangled sin tax August 6, 2012 at 11:30 pm

It's all good; they're brown, after all. It's the white man's burden to bring them all to civilization with a glock.

fuflans August 6, 2012 at 7:50 pm

can't we have a republican rentboy scandal or something?

this shit is making me lose faith in humanity.

Callyson August 6, 2012 at 7:52 pm

What fun facts do you have, Wikipedia, about Glenn “Instapundit” Reynolds?

Reynolds was a finalist for the World Technology Network's 2004 Media and Journalism award. In his remarks, he said:
Changes in technology are producing major changes in media and journalism. Journalism is becoming an activity, not simply a profession. In my InstaPundit.com weblog I have tried to foster the growth of amateurism in that field

Well done, jerk…

TribecaMike August 7, 2012 at 1:06 am

A real profit without honor that guy.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 1:45 am

There's way too much of that old-fashioned elitist "professionalism" in the journalism business. If the goal is to root it out completely, I can see why this fuckwad took the prize (the Murdoch Medal.)

Chet Kincaid_ August 6, 2012 at 7:53 pm

If the guy had had a gun, he and the whole Sikh temple would have been hounded as terrorists by dumbass Americans who believe gun rights are only for white people.

Now you have made me go look up who the fuck this Glenn Reynolds thinks he is. According to Wiki, he dishonors my birth month and year and is the "Beauchamp Brogan Distinguished Professor of Law at the University of Tennessee." His punditry does not reassure me as to his sharp legal mind, and neither does a professorship that sounds like the name of a third-place "American Idol" contestant.

HateMachine August 6, 2012 at 7:56 pm

"Beauchamp Brogan" sounds like a nickname they might use for someone down at Pi Kappa Alpha, assuming that they're not into the whole 'brevity' thing.

TribecaMike August 6, 2012 at 8:07 pm

Brogans is also prison slang for shoes.

bobbert August 6, 2012 at 8:47 pm

Also, just a type of shoe.

Chet Kincaid_ August 6, 2012 at 9:15 pm

My older siblings used to talk about brogans as a kind of big, clumsy shoe that inner city grade-schoolers used to wear to school in the '50s.

Chet Kincaid_ August 6, 2012 at 9:10 pm

"Bro-Champ" Reynolds looks like Yogi Bear, also:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thu
http://parentpreviews.com/legacy-pics/yogi-bear.j

All he needs is a scrunchy little hat.

MittBorg August 7, 2012 at 12:21 am

Beauchamp Brogan? Isn't brogan another word for "humongous turd"?

Oh, no, that's grogan. My bad.

tessiee August 6, 2012 at 10:29 pm

I thought "Beauchamp Brogan" sounded like a charming and charismatic, but utterly incompetent, Civil War general. After he got all his men slaughtered, and then escaped by running away and hiding, he became governor of one of those loser states down South. There's a pigeon-shit-splattered statue of him in a very small park, across the street from the boarded-up textile mill.

RadioBowels August 6, 2012 at 10:31 pm

This fucknut is the worst kind of Paultard, to wit:
"I'd be delighted to live in a country where happily married gay couples had closets full of assault weapons."

BTW, Happy birthday Chet, welcome to 52.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 1:53 am

But, God hates people who love countries where heavily armed gay people are allowed to happily marry!

"We're gonna need a bigger sign."
– Westboro Baptist derp

mlle_derp August 7, 2012 at 1:56 am

So does this mean you have a birthday this month? Happy, happy!

smokefilledmeltdown August 6, 2012 at 7:56 pm

I won't even comment on this. Oh wait–I just fucking did.

anniegetyerfun August 6, 2012 at 7:56 pm

I hope the people whose lives were spared by Satwant's heroism were worth it.

doloras August 6, 2012 at 8:09 pm

I've seen _Bend It Like Beckham_. Sikh women aren't sluts or lesbians, so they probably passed the test.

anniegetyerfun August 6, 2012 at 10:28 pm

Oh, good call. Not like those hussies at the Dark Night showing, then.

TribecaMike August 6, 2012 at 8:44 pm

Every sperm is sacred. After penetrating the egg, the little bastards are on their own.

Boojum August 6, 2012 at 7:59 pm

The only thing about this that surprised me was that he wasn't killed by the Sikhs. This is a people with a proud martial tradition.

BerkeleyBear August 6, 2012 at 8:30 pm

More recently, the first Royal Gaurds to wear turbans instead of bearskin were Sikhs. But unlike inbred whites, they use weapons as disciplined soldiers, not in lieu of greeting cards.

Boojum August 6, 2012 at 8:44 pm

This may relate to the concept that the sword is to be used for justice, instead of being an auxiliary fapping device.

sullivanst August 6, 2012 at 9:19 pm

There is this story.

I'm going to go ahead and presume that Glenn Reynolds entirely ignored the fact that the first, presumably armed and trained, police officer on the scene got shot multiple times. Maybe he should've been carrying more guns, or something?

anniegetyerfun August 6, 2012 at 10:18 pm

Or not stopped to help the wounded guy. That was really HIS fault, for being so servicey.

Beetagger August 6, 2012 at 8:01 pm

I don't want to play this fucking game anymore. I don't even get shocked by the insane, crazy extremists killing hoards of innocent people. I expect it now. Monthly. Pretty shitty world my kids will have to live in.

BaldarTFlagass August 6, 2012 at 8:03 pm

Funny thing is that back in the day, the Sikhs were pretty badass. Just wiki on First Sikh War or Second Sikh War, or for a more fun interpretation, read Flashman and the Mountain of Light.

Tangled sin tax August 6, 2012 at 11:40 pm

Hi, fellow Flashman fan! I got a big portion of my 19th century history from perusing the bibliographies in Frasier's books. BTW, read The Steel Bonnets if you haven't already. I finally started to get half a clue about the Marches from that one. I once had a Scottish co-worker who would have made a perfect Border Reiver back in the day. Total asshole.

TribecaMike August 7, 2012 at 1:09 am

The other night I caught Richard Lester's 1975 flick Royal Flash. Ten minutes in I wished I'd caught swine flu. A must to avoid, but love the novels.

BaldarTFlagass August 7, 2012 at 8:01 am

Yeah, that movie was awful. I found and bought the DVD a few years back, was all geeked up to finally see Flashman on the screen, and like you, I was done in 10 minutes.

viennawoods13 August 7, 2012 at 10:19 am

And yet, Lester's Three Musketeers? The best!

Lionel[redacted]Esq August 6, 2012 at 8:06 pm

If God had wanted them to live, he would have armed them.

BaldarTFlagass August 6, 2012 at 8:08 pm

It's really too bad that the temple didn't have a secure perimeter with armed guards and vicious Dobermans and Weimeraners, manned watchtowers with .50 cal machine guns, two fences with razor wire on top and a minefield in between them, Jersey barriers to deter suicide trucks, and a moat. If they had, we wouldn't be having this conversation now.

anniegetyerfun August 6, 2012 at 8:09 pm

Because the US government would have attacked the compound and lit it on fire for being a cult?

Whatever August 6, 2012 at 8:23 pm

Sounds like a lot of Federal Buildings

TribecaMike August 6, 2012 at 9:41 pm

I live 1/2 a block from the federal buildings here in Manhattan, and they're heavily and impersonally secured, but many of the security guys and gals I chat with as I make my rounds are total characters and just regular working schlubs. Terry Gilliam's Brazil nailed it in '85, as did PT Barnum a century before: we're all small time suckers in "the big store."

Tangled sin tax August 6, 2012 at 11:45 pm

Nobby and Sgt. Colon?

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 1:55 am

That, or Sgt. Schultz.

doloras August 6, 2012 at 8:09 pm

The reason these guys don't shoot up actual mosques is the same reason the USA invaded Iraq and not North Korea – they didn't want to attack somewhere that might actually be able to fight back.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 1:59 am

Bull. If N. Korea had a shitload of oil, Dumbya would have gone in there to "liberate the people" (and Rummy and Wolfie would have convinced him we'd be welcomed with flowers.)

anniegetyerfun August 6, 2012 at 8:10 pm

Sikhs also wear special underwear. I hope Romney realizes how important it is to show his solidarity on this issue.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 2:00 am

I sense a growing market for magical undies made from Kevlar.

MinAgain August 6, 2012 at 8:10 pm

I mean a white Christian church, come on.

Well, there was that shooting at the Unitarian Church in Knoxville, TN, almost 4 years ago, to the day. Of course, only two people died, and some would argue that they aren't really a "Christian" church.

docterry6973 August 6, 2012 at 8:11 pm

The Sikh regiments in the old British army had a sterling record in combat. As soldiers they are not to be messed with.

Boojum August 6, 2012 at 8:12 pm

Guys, I would describe Sikhism as non-aggressive rather than non-violent.

"The philosophy is that if all other means of achieving justice have failed, it's righteous to raise the sword. That philosophy comes out of this concept of "saint-soldier," where the common analogy given is that a sword is merely a tool. In the hand of a righteous man, it can be used to uphold justice; in the hands of somebody who is evil, it will be used to commit atrocities."

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/week840

anniegetyerfun August 6, 2012 at 10:29 pm

Yes, this is probably a better way of putting it. They are definitely not evangelical in any way.

Negropolis August 6, 2012 at 10:40 pm

This is the best way to put it. I'd tried explaining as such, but it took me too many additional words.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 2:04 am

"In the hand of a righteous man, it can be used to uphold justice."

I'm surprised the NRA isn't all over this. Oh wait . . . there's more?

valthemus August 6, 2012 at 8:12 pm

It's rather disturbing how often I'm hearing/reading words to the effect of, "That big dummy! He was supposed to kill Muslims!"

DustBowlBlues August 6, 2012 at 8:14 pm

These gun-nuts always belong to the one truly patriotic political party. The party of the numb-nuts who stop at nothing to see to it that the Second Amendment is interpreted eactly like Thomas Jefferson meant it to be when he wrote the constitution. It's too bad for all us normal people that they have him mixed up with Davy Crockett.

sullivanst August 6, 2012 at 9:08 pm

The price of freedumb is eternal gun homicide.

TribecaMike August 7, 2012 at 1:53 am

That's the Texas state motto, only in latin.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 2:07 am

It must have been written when they shot their convicts.

not that Dewey August 7, 2012 at 9:24 am

Pretium libertatis est aeterna gun homicidium

YasserArraFeck August 7, 2012 at 2:17 am

Time for the third party – the Gunservative Party. Show those Republican pussies what a real right wing fringe looks like.

sullivanst August 7, 2012 at 9:01 am

Would anyone notice a difference?

viennawoods13 August 7, 2012 at 9:12 am

No, but vote splitting is always fun.

johnnyzhivago August 6, 2012 at 8:16 pm

There are some anti-violence, anti-gun, anti-hate Christian denominations, but they are getting fewer by the day….

TribecaMike August 6, 2012 at 8:20 pm

Or as what Sarah Palin calls them, lamestream denominations.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 2:09 am

Ding Ding Ding …. we have a winner!

weejee August 6, 2012 at 8:17 pm

Showing his expected brilliance, the neo-conned, neo-nazi, 9-11 tatted shooter:
1. Was a general discharged vet who never once was posted in harm's way
2. There were no Sikhs involved at any level in 9/11

Clearly this Rambo wannabe is at best pathetic. Sikhs chillin' with al Qaeda makes as much sense as Klan members chillin' with the Black Panthers, but then this whole thing makes not sense.

/ time to pop a brewski

emmelemm August 6, 2012 at 8:19 pm

When, in the last 30 years (Reagan onwards) has ANYTHING made any sense?

BaldarTFlagass August 6, 2012 at 8:18 pm

Isn't that South Carolina governor woman a Sikh? Maybe she can legislate some gun laws or something.

TribecaMike August 6, 2012 at 8:19 pm

Yeah, and Rudyard Kipling himself will be there to report on it.

rickmaci August 6, 2012 at 9:01 pm

Sad. There has not been a peep our of her. Where's the leadership?

mlle_derp August 6, 2012 at 9:57 pm

Where's the leadership?

Shhhhh- don't give her any ideas. She hasn't accomplished much here, & we'd like to keep it that way, thankyouverymuch.

TribecaMike August 7, 2012 at 12:00 am

Laugh all you want to, but Nikki Haley has accomplished great things in her state, like the Mandatory Mascara Act, higher state expenditures on public pickle purchases, and the groundbreaking rule that all SUV's must weigh at least 50 tons.

mlle_derp August 7, 2012 at 12:26 am

I am flaunting the mandatory mascara act right now!

Pffffffttt to Nikki Haley!

Negropolis August 7, 2012 at 12:06 am

Like Jindal, she's all deep-fried Christianized, now, but I hear she still attends Sikh services from time to time out of deference to her parents.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 2:13 am

I hope she brings her bodyguards with her. Can't be too careful these days … it's real Amercia out there.

not that Dewey August 6, 2012 at 8:19 pm

Without reading any of the linked article, allow me to guess:

"Sikhs look too much like Towelheads for the average Real American to be able to tell them apart, so they were asking for it."

[takes off blindfold]

How did I do?

C_R_Eature August 6, 2012 at 9:04 pm

Needs moar Umbrage at any suggestion by Liberals that the overheated rhetoric and extreme propagandization of everyday politics by the Right Wing might have had something to do with the elevated levels of gun violence here but, other than that, an accurate summation of the unspoken subtext. Bravo!

not that Dewey August 6, 2012 at 10:46 pm

I sensed it.

TribecaMike August 7, 2012 at 1:41 am

Some of my fellow lib-prog brethren can barely get up the energy to run a swamp cooler, no less overheat a rhetoric or extreme an umbrage.

C_R_Eature August 7, 2012 at 5:27 am

They're obviously not paying close enough attention. My Umbrage meter's been pegged so many times in the past decade I had to go to a Log scale.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 2:19 am

You've been reading Free Republic … that's cheating.

I was gonna snark-post there about how the Sikhs should just stop wearing the damned towels, but Poe's Law would totally defeat me if I tried.

johnnyzhivago August 6, 2012 at 8:21 pm

Y'all might find this interesting, from the Presbyterian Church (USA) website:

http://www.pcusa.org/news/2012/8/6/mormons-and-ba

TribecaMike August 6, 2012 at 8:29 pm

Thanks. There are around 16 million Baptists in the US, and around 13-14 million Mormons in the entire world (pop. 6,973,738,433). Both groups gain around a million new members every ten years, mainly because all they're allowed to do for fun is fuck and reproduce.

Barrelhse August 6, 2012 at 11:13 pm

Too bad those suckers are going to miss out on Life while they chase their deluded illusions.
Also, I'm wondering how the fundies are doing with our exploration of a Martian mountain that is 3.5 billion years old. I imagine it gives their faces kind of a pinched look.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 2:21 am

God made it look old, to test their faith. But the Farce is strong, and I'm confident they'll pass.

I mean, seriously, to get all those different isotope ratios just right, all consistent for the same age? That's proof of intelligent design right there.

Juicy_Stalin August 6, 2012 at 8:22 pm

Guns don't kill people, pacifism kills people.

YasserArraFeck August 7, 2012 at 2:20 am

Guns don't kill Sikhs – Sikhs jumping in front of good red-blooded Amercian bullets kills Sikhs

Mapmonger August 6, 2012 at 8:25 pm

Christ, what an asshole.

mavenmaven August 6, 2012 at 8:34 pm

The fact is, America is 'exceptional' in being one of the most violent cultures among westernized countries.

Rotundo_ August 6, 2012 at 8:48 pm

You mean we *aren't* numba one!!!!!111!!!!!!11111!!!!?????

glasspusher August 6, 2012 at 9:14 pm

The exclamation points, '1's and question marks in your post look pretty.

TribecaMike August 6, 2012 at 10:22 pm

And yet most violent crime, aside from rape, statistically continues to go down. I don't think we're more violent than other countries, we're just more insane.

Negropolis August 7, 2012 at 10:43 pm

That we've come down is great and all, but we continue to rank as one of the most violent Western nation in most categories. Yes, we are more violent than most. Even our low-violent crime cities have violent crime rates than some of Europe's high-crime cities.

Hell, even among our more violent cities it's just ridiculous. Chicago now has a higher murder rate than Sao Paulo and Rio down in Brazil. And that's with continuous decline in violent crimes in America.

sullivanst August 7, 2012 at 8:34 am

On murder rates, we're one of the most violent cultures among all countries, and by far and away the most violent culture among westernized countries.

BarackMyWorld August 6, 2012 at 8:43 pm

The shooter was obviously from the Obama Administration trying to manipulate people into supporting more gun control laws.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 7:04 am

Obviously a plot — Ted Nugent can see the pattern from his back yard.

Blueb4sinrise August 6, 2012 at 8:45 pm

Weren't the wingers also critical when no one in Aurora tried to tackle the shooter ? Where were the heroes of Flight 93?
Now someone does try to do it unarmed….and still pissing and moaning.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 7:05 am

Doesn't count if you don't blow the sucker away with your concealed gun. I'm not sure how the Flight 93 guys get any respect from the NRAnderthals.

rickmaci August 6, 2012 at 8:52 pm

Wow. He managed to slaughter unarmed old men and women. Must make all those big, tough neo-Nazis proud.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 7:07 am

Yeah, it's not as if Nazis ever … oh, wait.

miss_grundy August 6, 2012 at 8:57 pm

This is why everyone in America needs single-payer health insurance: to pay the hospital bill because crazy white people have guns. Why is it that the majority of rampage killers are white?

glasspusher August 6, 2012 at 9:21 pm

That's a red herring. The tear wrists are only doing that to distract us. Wake up sheeple!

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 7:11 am

Gun-toting ignorant racist white fucktards are the oppressed minority — you have to expect them to be angry.

Chet Kincaid_ August 6, 2012 at 9:00 pm

It's unfortunate that the meme on the Sikhs has been reduced in this event to "nonviolent religion." Sikhs have been warriors; Sikhs have also tactically used nonviolence against the British. Their religion has a lot of admirable qualities, including the equality of all human beings and both sexes. But nowhere am I seeing that they profess or aspire to be the world's punching bags.

It plays into Americans' preference for our browns to be non-defensive sitting ducks in order to be worthy of our sympathy. There's also an element of "you don't see that everyday, a brown religion that's not based on kill whitey!" There are ethnicities, and there are religions, and they often carry the same name. Let he whose community is a perfect embodiment of its nominal faith spray the first round.
http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Origin_of_non_

glasspusher August 6, 2012 at 9:22 pm

You're really fucking up your run for the NRA presidency there, Chet.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 7:12 am

Will no-one think of the stereotypes?

eggsacklywright August 7, 2012 at 7:19 am

A meme is a terrible thing to waste.

MosesInvests August 7, 2012 at 9:39 am

Kinda like how everyone feels sorry for Jews who were in ghettos and concentration camps, but absolutely loathe Jews who defend themselves (and no, I'm not justifying every stupid or dickish thing done by Israel, but really.)

MilwaukeeKent August 6, 2012 at 9:07 pm

There a several Sikhs who own stores, gas stations, etc. here in Milwaukee that I patronize, several times a week, I'm hoping none of the clerks and owners I've become friendly with were directly affected. It's a small community and they certainly would know the people killed and injured. They're dignified and kind.They're also generally non-violent but frankly, in Glenn Reynolds case, they should make an exception and tear the asshole a new one.

BerkeleyBear August 6, 2012 at 9:14 pm

The Sikhs as a movement have used non-violence. But the religion is actually built around an idea of proud muscular masculinity that any Bubba would love if only they knew it. Men are to never cut their hair, and wear a ceremonial (but sharp) dagger at all times.

The martial exploits of the Sikhs, coupled with their unique brand of monotheism, are believed to have been the source of medieval legends of the kingdom of "Prester John", a Crusader style warrior king who was variously supposed to be guarding the Garden of Eden, the king of the "lost tribes", or a whole host of other fun fantasies. The Sikhs are also one of the ancient Aryan people in the screwed up ethnographic classifications that Hitler and his ilk were so enamored of.

glasspusher August 6, 2012 at 9:24 pm

Today we are all people of watercolor?

Also, I can see you from my backyard, bear.

TribecaMike August 7, 2012 at 1:55 am

How very gouache.

eggsacklywright August 7, 2012 at 7:21 am

You should be in double digits for that one.

lurker_above August 6, 2012 at 9:20 pm

Heroic. But it's too bad he didn't have a gun.

No, too bad it he didn't come up against this Sikh.

Übermensch would have have handed him his fat, white ass.

BaldarTFlagass August 7, 2012 at 8:24 am

According to Alan Moore/League of Extraordinary Gentleman, Captain Nemo was a Sikh as well.

jakegittes August 6, 2012 at 9:30 pm

I always bring my gun to church. You never know when that sumbitch preacher might say something that requires "interdiction."

zippy_w_pinhead August 6, 2012 at 9:43 pm

besides, you get much less backtalk when you help yourself to the collection plate

redarmyzombie August 6, 2012 at 9:32 pm

Wait, you mean there's MORE than one Glen we have to put up with now? Fuck!

sullivanst August 7, 2012 at 8:28 am

Instamoron's been drooling onto the internet since before the other Glenn first showed his crazy mug on HLN.

Gorillionaire August 6, 2012 at 9:36 pm

So, this doofus who spent his entire adult life obsessed with hating the muslims or whatever finally decided to "do something about it" and chumped over to a quiet temple that he probably mistook for a completely different kind of temple, sprayed a few bullets, ended the lives of some totally innocent humans (including an 86 year old) and then walks outside and gets popped by a cop. Whew did he blow it. I'll bet nobody like him ever ever ever does that again.

BaldarTFlagass August 7, 2012 at 8:26 am

No exactly the Blaze of Glory that Bon Jovi sang about…

GregComlish August 6, 2012 at 9:36 pm

Sikhs are mostly Muslim-like except whiter, so basically they are equivalent to Democrats

YerMa August 6, 2012 at 9:38 pm

There was a mass shooting at a white Christian Church (ok, church SERVICE at a hotel) in 2005, right up the road from this (and me, also, too!)
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/13/world/americas/

Those people must have been asking for it since they weren't packing heat, either, huh?

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 8:32 am

Nutty member of a nutty church … just add guns, and stand back. I don't exactly expect one of the Westboro Baptist morans to crack up and pull a similar stunt, but if it happens, my surprize meter will be pegged at zero.

rocktonsam August 6, 2012 at 9:46 pm

only in merikKka

CRIPES

TribecaMike August 6, 2012 at 9:46 pm

Bit o' trivia: Gun ownership has gone down 75% since the early seventies, but the amount of guns owned by individuals has gone way up, as well as neglected cases of mental illness by the look of it.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 8:21 am

Makes you wonder where the NRA gets all the money and power.

BaldarTFlagass August 7, 2012 at 8:27 am

"neglected cases of mental illness"

Thank you Ronald Reagan.

BZ1 August 6, 2012 at 10:04 pm

Wisconsin gets a concealed carry law last year, now, who got elected last year??

mlle_derp August 6, 2012 at 10:08 pm

So can we pass a law saying that any of these numbskulls who say "shoulda had a gun" should be adequately punished for their stupidity? All offenders' names are given to a crackerjack team of Navy SEAL's who will then pay these idjits a visit at a time when they are least likely to be packing heat. They MUST be threatened with guns, but the guns need not be loaded. Once offenders have publicly repented, they are on probation. If a visit is needed for a second offense, guns MUST be loaded.

With votes, of course…

GorzoTheMighty August 6, 2012 at 10:13 pm

Never take a knife to a gunfight

sorry, too soon

TribecaMike August 6, 2012 at 10:29 pm

Never not take a cape to a bullfight.

RadioBowels August 6, 2012 at 10:14 pm

If only those people in Hiroshima had an atomic bomb to heroically stand their ground.

Negropolis August 6, 2012 at 10:21 pm

There have been, unfortunately, far too many (white) church shootings, and even some politically motivated ones. The one down in Tennessee comes to mind.

BTW, they maby be known for using violence as a last resort, but a Sikh will cut a bitch. Why do yoou think they carry around those ceremonial knives with them? They are known as much for their ferciousness — at least outside the US — when they have to use it as they are for their default peaceful teachings.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 8:28 am

Talk softly, but carry a sharp stick.

Baba_NinjaCat12 August 6, 2012 at 10:24 pm

So much guns, so much death, so much massacre, we are the Yemen of the highly developed, advanced economic power.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/interactive/2012

TribecaMike August 6, 2012 at 10:31 pm

Somebody had to sell them those weapons, and Jeebus declared it would be us. Booyah!

RadioBowels August 6, 2012 at 10:35 pm

USA! USA! USA!

fuflans August 6, 2012 at 10:42 pm

yeah but does YEMEN have chick fil a???!?!?

i don't think so.

TribecaMike August 7, 2012 at 12:05 am

Just try to find a chick to lay in Yemen.

Negropolis August 6, 2012 at 10:47 pm

My bad side totally regrets that they killed this dumb-ass motherfucker. I want all of the answers in these horrific events, and for him to slip away in a hail of gunfire to never be held accountable before the family's he hurts for this burns me up. Fucking terrorist coward; he knew he was going on a suicide mission.

TribecaMike August 6, 2012 at 11:11 pm

If I were a twisted psychokiller (and I'm not saying I'm not — psych!), I'd barge into a place of worship and shoot myself in front of everyone. The congregation would have nightmares for the rest of their lives, and I'd be singing twisted lullabyes in eternity. No muss, no fuss. But there I go again thinking crazy people should be rational. Alas, it doesn't work that way.

Manhattan123 August 6, 2012 at 10:50 pm

Isn't this asswipe Reynolds a tenured professor at a state university? Granted, it's in Tennessee or Alabammy or one of those other god-forsaken hillbilly states, but still, is this idiot really who taxpayer money should be supporting?

fitley August 6, 2012 at 10:50 pm

God made this happen because of gays getting married. And the last big fire was too. No wait it was the flood. Yeah it was the flood. I'm positive it was the flood and this.

SorosBot August 6, 2012 at 11:10 pm

And welcome, Jesse; is this the same Jesse Taylor who writes for Pandagon?

Barrelhse August 6, 2012 at 11:19 pm

Glenn, you're a goddamned fool. Why do you feel the need to pander to the most base and ignorant among us? This country is becoming too fucking stupid to survive- thanks a pantload, asshole.

Monsieur_Grumpe August 6, 2012 at 11:47 pm

Pete Seeger on Corbert!

Monsieur_Grumpe August 7, 2012 at 12:01 am

97 years old fuck yeah!
I'm getting a Marshall stack when I'm 100.

TribecaMike August 7, 2012 at 12:14 am

Good gracious, I've rubbed shoulders with Pete many times over the years and find it hard, nay impossible, to believe he's that close to 100. The gentleman sure does keep himself in tip top shape and can still wail on that old banjo. A favored memory: in a Catskill kitchen singing Dylan's "When I Paint My Masterpiece" with Pete strumming banjo, John Herald and Happy Traum picking chords on the guitar I never knew existed, and my pal Babs jauntily tickling the fiddle. The Guinness brewery was established in 1759 for that very evening.

97 you say? Pshaw, the dude was barely 8 years old that night, and it was only 12 years ago!

KTimely August 6, 2012 at 11:55 pm

Jesse Taylor asks, "When's the last time you heard about Christian church getting attacked by a domestic terrorist? I mean a white Christian church, come on."

Actually… that would be May 31, 2009… at the Reformation Lutheran Church in Wichita Kansas where Dr. George Tiller was shot and killed by a 'domestic terrorist.'

glamourdammerung August 6, 2012 at 11:59 pm

I am surprised that a white guy managed to get called a terrorist finally.

MosesInvests August 7, 2012 at 12:31 am

Maybe the Sikhs need to bring those circular throwing knives with them to worship (yeah, like Xena the Warrior Princess used-those were actually a Sikh weapon). Yeesh, what a world.

Dimitrios_M August 7, 2012 at 1:01 am

It may just be possible that Wade Michael Page shot up a Sikh temple under the mistaken impression he was killing Muslims, since the two different religions’ people appear similar to the uneducated, and in America it is infinitely easier to legally procure an assault weapon than an education.

smashedinhat August 7, 2012 at 1:40 am

You know, if we all had cinder block basements chock full of weapons and ammo this kind of shit wouldn't be happening.

TribecaMike August 7, 2012 at 2:12 am

The only problem would be some people would start horseplaying around with their laser sights and forget why they were there and start shooting each other and did I say there would be a problem? On second thought, that's not a problem, it's a solution.

Negropolis August 7, 2012 at 3:15 am

BTW, I love t Yahoo! News headline "Domestic terrorism or hate crime" as if the two things are mutually exclusive. The stupid; she burns.

not that Dewey August 7, 2012 at 7:38 am

There's no dichotomy like false dichotomy.

Dr. Nick Riviera August 7, 2012 at 6:25 am

"I regret that I have but one life to lose for my country…also that I didn't have a big motherfuckin gun."

BoatOfVelociraptors August 7, 2012 at 7:39 am

Obviously a bunch of Sikhs openly carrying guns would have no problem living in Tennessee.

Misty Malarky August 7, 2012 at 8:44 am

Why didn't they just throw Chick-Fil-A sandwiches at him?

Thunderclees August 7, 2012 at 8:55 am

The NRA always says, "I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by Sikhs."

/wokka wokka!

YouLikeCookies August 7, 2012 at 10:07 am

You get a gun! And, you get a gun. And, you get a gun.

EVERYONE GETS A GUN!

BeefHardcake August 7, 2012 at 10:49 am

I wouldn't trust 99% of the populace with a burnt-out match, much less something as potentially lethal as a firearm.

DahBoner August 7, 2012 at 1:45 pm

How many more crazy religous people need to die before Those People will realize the Christian religion is based on LOVE???

ttommyunger August 7, 2012 at 7:51 pm

Poor Glenn, too many n's, too little brains.

Ellie K October 11, 2012 at 8:15 am

Ummm, you're right ;)

That up vote count is now at nearly 200! I never received more than five up votes in 3 years of doing this commenting thing. I'm not complaining, just saying that you clearly must be on to something, because it certainly IS effective (I wish this silly comment system would allow genuine smiley faces ;o)

viennawoods13 August 6, 2012 at 8:58 pm

I hear you. (former Quaker here) Herbert Hoover did a much better job as a Quaker president, if you look at his foreign policy initiatives.

MilwaukeeKent August 7, 2012 at 12:05 am

Sound advice from MittB and you. More fun though with an eternal flame like Joe McCarthy's in Appleton, WI. (not recommended for the womenfolk, however).

MittBorg August 7, 2012 at 12:06 am

Hey! I said that!

YasserArraFeck August 7, 2012 at 2:01 am

Mmmmmmm…..warm….Chardonnay…..

Biel_ze_Bubba August 7, 2012 at 12:46 am

I'm trying to remember if the Enterprise ever visited their planet.

horsedreamer_1 August 7, 2012 at 7:33 am

But, they are still capable of soldiery. (Ibid. Leitch, Donovan.)

C_R_Eature August 7, 2012 at 5:21 am

I see we're all on the same page here!

C_R_Eature August 7, 2012 at 5:33 am

McCarthy, eh. Don't forget to have a big bowl of asparagus before you go.

MittBorg August 7, 2012 at 12:40 pm

They have pee-funnel thingies for those ladies desirous of, um, lauding, that's the word, lauding old Joe's achievements. Do it standing up, girlies! You'll be glad you did!

C_R_Eature August 7, 2012 at 6:46 am

Ah, I see that! You clever cybernetic organism, you!

horsedreamer_1 August 7, 2012 at 7:36 am

First Church of Ludacris, Communicant?

sullivanst August 7, 2012 at 8:20 am

You're wondering if they ever went the Jain way?

MittBorg August 7, 2012 at 12:38 pm

Dood, we all know I'm shamelessly fishing for a CRE_aturish hug. Flattery not required. (Hugs the CRE)

MittBorg August 7, 2012 at 12:51 pm

Arre!

MittBorg August 7, 2012 at 12:56 pm

Although Jains are big proponents of ahimsa, and always ragging on the Hindus and Buddhists for failing to implement ahimsa as it should be implemented, they do believe in the right to self-defense. As a rule, however, violence in Jain communities is pretty damn minimal.

viennawoods13 August 7, 2012 at 1:33 pm

Meh. Tried one of those whilst hiking. I think they need practice. Hiking is the only time I suffer from penis envy.

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