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Keith Ellison Opponent Explains Elusive Nature Of ‘Facts’ And Quotes To Lucky Reporter

Did you know he's MUSLIM, also too?Have you ever wondered how people in the public eye feel when they are blatantly misrepresented by the media? Well, wonder no longer! They feel sad! You can see this in the following amazing transcript between Minnesota Congressman Keith Ellison’s Republican opponent, Chris Fields, and lucky CityPages reporter Andy Mannix.

Chris Fields: “I just want to point your attention to a few things that are blatantly misrepresented.”
City Pages: “In my post?”
Fields: “Yes, in your post. I did not explicitly call Keith a reverse racist. I didn’t. I didn’t.”
CP: “Ok, I’m looking at the ad right now, it says, ‘reverse racism.’ And there’s a picture of Keith Ellison next to it.”
Fields: “Ok, it says two words. What about the rest of the words there? I mean, do they count? And I’m not trying to be confrontational here –”

Reader, would it shock you to learn that Mr. Fields does in fact go on to be confrontational? US TOO!

CP: “So you’re trying to tell me that you’re not calling Keith Ellison a reverse racist?”

Fields: “It says, ‘Does Keith–’”

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CP: “Yeah, ‘Does Keith Ellison practice reverse racism and racial politics?’”

Fields: “You decide. You decide.”

CP: “And then you’re trying to tell me that in this literature it’s not supposed to be answering that question for the people that are reading it?”

Fields: “I’m putting a set of facts out there, just like everybody else. And I’ll tell you this much –”

CP: “No, no, no. Let me read another part of this. ‘Keith Ellison has a double standard for justice: one for blacks, one for whites. That’s just wrong.’ I mean, c’mon, you’re not gonna tell me that you’re not trying to say that he’s a reverse racist. Why even introduce the term reverse racism?”

Fields: “Here’s the thing, Andy. If we’re going to talk about facts — facts are facts. I said, factually, I did not call him a racist. That’s what I’m saying. And then if you want to talk about the actual issue itself, do you believe, Andy, in your heart, mind, and soul, that if Brian Terry were black, and this were the Bush administration, and the attorney general were John Ashcroft – if those were the cast of players, do you believe that they would have walked out?”

It goes on — quite enjoyably! — from there. But we can all agree that Mannix should be drummed out of CityPages at once and posthaste for saying Mr. Fields called Rep. Ellison a reverse racist when those were only two words, next to his picture! This is just a journalism science fact, and it is so obvious we shouldn’t even have to say it, but there we are. Because ethics. Shame, Mr. Mannix. For shame, sir.

[CityPages]

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154 comments

  1. BaldarTFlagass

    "If we’re going to talk about facts — facts are facts. "

    Facts are stupid things.
    —Ronald Reagan

    Fields is a stupid thing.
    —B. T. Flagass

    1. Butch_Wagstaff

      "Did Chris Fields' wife run into his fists repeatedly?"*
      You decide.
      I"m just puttin' out something that might be a fact but isn't but could be.
      Again, it's up to you to decide.

      *Not intended to be a factual question.

  2. glasspusher

    How about seeing "shut the fuck up" and only taking "the fuck"? Clearly taken out of context.

  3. miss_grundy

    If you are going to call someone a reverse racist, you better explain using facts. If you don't have facts backing you up then you are not being factual, you are just a lying rat bastard.

    1. Butch_Wagstaff

      Who says that lying rat bastards can't use facts. Or a set of facts? Howabout a set of facts wrapped up in a pack of lies? Or a pack of lies nestled in the bosom of facts? What about the smell of GOP lies with a taint of truth?

      I'm just playing around with the latest GOP-speak, so forgive me.

      1. Boojum

        How about we wrap the facts in wet newspapers and pack our lies in bubble wrap?

        Edit: I have no idea what that means.

  4. barto

    Curious that Republicans aren't more supportive of victims' rights, since they are always playing the victim.

    1. zippy_w_pinhead

      they are supportive of themselves. but as we all know, everyone else who has ever been a victim was just milking the system…

    2. Willardbot9000_V2.5

      My favorite is when they denounce the "culture of victimhood" perpetrated by the left. I mean, we cannot go a day without some dumb rightwing bullshitter whining about being victimized, and I don't think it means what they think it means. Like here, Chris Fields is going to be a whining butthurt victim the next time some right wing douchecanoe has him on the radio, but let's face it: the reporter was only quoting his ad. In the immortal words of Newt the wife Slayer: "anyone who quotes what I said is lying"…so says the worlds biggest VICTIMS of their own bullshit: Republicans.

    1. glasspusher

      That's a good point. Just because I saw her picture with the two words "dumb bitch" next to it doesn't mean anything!

      1. Jus_Wonderin

        Oh, there must be a deck of those. I saw the one with "stupid cunt" next to her picture.

  5. JustPixelz

    I can clear this up. On Chris Fields' campaign site he says

    Sadly, Keith Ellison and his cronies in the Congressional Black Caucus practice reverse racism and racial politics all the time.

    1. bobbert

      But, but, that doesn't mean he called him a "reverse racist". Just that he is practicing to be one. Ha Ha!!!!

    2. ThankYouJeebus

      It says right there that he's sad about it. It's Keith Ellison's fault that he was forced to say anything at all.

    3. kittensdontlie

      Sure 'reverse racism' is two words, but what about the other eighteen words…don't they count against the two, leaving us with a sentence containing sixteen words devoid of racist overtone?!

    4. Butch_Wagstaff

      "We don't practice reverse racism. No, we have integrity so we practice the right kind of racism. It's the American Way. Patriot. American. Flag. That's Chris Fields."

      1. Willardbot9000_V2.5

        hah…that is so full of win. "White privilege done the American way. Anyone who says otherwise is an obvious racist, scummy minorities. We are the GOP."

  6. ChernobylSoup

    If you mention Trayvon Martin without holding a moment of silence for every white person who has ever died, you're race baiting.

  7. Schmannnity

    When is Bachmann going to focus on the relentless plot of dumb asses infiltrating all levels of government?

    1. Butch_Wagstaff

      Yes, what about the the creeping menace of Dumassria law? It is an issue I'm really concerned about it but why don't our legislators address it? I mean, it's clearly right there in the Quacky'ron that America should be conquered in the name of some sandal-wearing freak who had an entourage of 12 men.
      Then, a few hundred years after this freak dies, some nerf herders, under the influence of dehydration and malnutrition, started telling people about him. And they didn't even KNOW him. Then they started writing about shit he did that he didn't even do.
      (I've taken some liberty with the history of the Gospels. I don't care. I just wanted to use a "nerf herder" reference."

  8. Texan_Bulldog

    Poor Andy. If his boss tells him he has to interview Shelly Bachmann next, I suspect he'll go drown himself in one of those 10K lakes.

          1. BoatOfVelociraptors

            But then you would be floating in the lake on death panels, making them reverse death panels.

  9. BaldarTFlagass

    I loved that Mannix show when I was a kid. He always drove the badassest of badass cars.

    1. Jus_Wonderin

      Wasn't it a Quinn Martin Production? I bet they were Fords.

      Edit: I was wrong. Desilu.

      1. BaldarTFlagass

        According to Wiki, it was Desilu. I remember mostly Mopars – Plymouth Cudas and Dodge Challengers and such.

  10. Urban_Achiever

    "Is Chris Fields a double-secret reverse racist, who also doesn't understand basic concepts like 'facts?' You decide…"

  11. Goonemeritus

    Does Chris Fields rape and behead adorable puppies, you decide.

    Puppy raping is wrong!

  12. actor212

    "I'm Chris Fields, and I approve this message. Maybe. It doesn't really say what you think it says, and there's lots of words, so let's not focus on the five or six that get under your skin, mmmmmmmmmmmK?"

  13. Lionel[redacted]Esq

    Does Rush Limbaugh like to get blow jobs from Domenican boy sex slaves?

    Sure, concentrate on the two words blow jobs. But All I'm doing is raising the issue. Let the people decide.

  14. Jus_Wonderin

    Here, in Olympics season, I believe a reverse racism has a difficulty level of 3. Many of the athletes use that technique in early rounds so as rack up points and then use simpler techniques in an effort to make it to the finals.

  15. BaldarTFlagass

    Jon Stewart had a piece on this kind of shit a few years back, I think he raking Fox over the coals about that question mark thing. "Is your mother a whore? I'm not saying she is, just asking…"

  16. OhDeerMee123

    Practicing racism makes you a racist as much as practicing christianity makes you Christ, right Chris?

    1. Limeylizzie

      OK, i just read that as "Practicing Dentistry makes you Christ". So I am laughing like a fool.

      1. Chet Kincaid_

        And turning, the Lord didst stay the hand of Mary the Hygienist, and said unto him, "why seekest thou an anesthetic? What thou sayest hurts thee, I have already removed." And the Lord didst show him the tooth which was already in His hand. And feeling that the corrupt tooth was gone, the man afflicted with a toothache didst fall down and worship Him.

  17. Callyson

    “Yeah, ‘Does Chris Fields practice racism and racial politics?’”

    “You decide. You decide.”

  18. poorgradstudent

    I could do this all day.

    "Does Chris Fields have a bizarre sexual disorder where he's only aroused by footage of the Holocaust? You decide."

  19. Pragmatist2

    News release fro Field's Press Secretary:
    The CP completely misreads the ad. In truth and as anyone can see Mr. Fields was calling on all Americans, including Mr. Ellison, to "reverse racism." "Reverse" is, of course, a verb as well as san adjective and we all believe that racism should be reversed.

    1. HistoriCat

      They should have gone with the typo defense – "that should be 'reject' … we want Mr. Ellison to reject racism"

  20. LesBontemps

    Also, I'm pretty sure I didn't explicitly call Chris Fields's mom a whore. I was just asking if she exchanges sex for money.

  21. BaldarTFlagass

    I also like the stencil-style font they used for the word "RACISM." Kind of implies the use of spray paint, which implies graffiti, which implies urban. Or I could be really reaching here.

    1. TribecaMike

      Either that or they were trying to remind white folks of "Whites Only" public accommodations during Jim Crow, a time when whites suffered so much.

  22. YasserArraFeck

    Are you all forgetting the great RepubliTard get-out-of-jail-free card? "This was not intended to be a factual statement"

  23. Guppy

    I daresay, this transcript of someone challenging a politician on his own record seems frighteningly close to actual journalism in our post-9/11 world…

  24. valthemus

    Are Republicans racists? Are they fascists? Are they anti-American extremists who worship Satan? Are they aliens from the planet Nebulon? Do they inject venom into female virgins to liquefy their internal organs and have dirty, nasty dead girl sex with the corpses? Is insane speculation the best way to spread lies about people? Do GOPers, perhaps, hope to escape lawsuits by phrasing ridiculously outlandish accusations in the form of questions?

  25. TribecaMike

    We should kick out all the minorities and go back to the simpler good old days when the micks hated the pollacks and the pollacks hated the krauts.

    1. BoatOfVelociraptors

      If you hear the dogwhistle, it's the fear of old rich white dudes that someday every minority might enact the enforcement part of the golden rule.

      It's implicit in the language. There's 'good ol racism', but then there's this 'reverse racism', which is just perverse.

      1. TootsStansbury

        I was afraid that's what it meant. I tune out when I hear the term like it's one of those corporate-speak meaningless buzz words. Only this is a dog vuvuzula.

    2. Designer_Rants

      It's what gets Glenn Beck fired from Fox News even though he averages over 3 million viewers. It's awesome. Behold, the Reverse Racism! (Use it for good, like getting rid of Glenn Beck).

  26. actor212

    I get the distinction Fields is making but he ought to be more obvious about it.

    He's not saying that Ellison is practicing reverse racialism because he doesn't know better. He's saying that Ellison knows better but is cynically playing the race card since he knows it will get him an advantage.

    He's still a fucking obtuse assholic idiot, because Ellison is clearly not even practicing reverse racism.

    Pardon me, I mean he's practicing fucking obtuse assholic idiotism.

  27. Ruhe

    So Brian Terry comes into it because…? Because by failing to become AG under Obama and thereby have the power to more vigorously pursue the investigation into Terry's death and how that relates to "Fast and Furious" Ellison is obviously being reverse racist against a dead ATF officer. And don't say that's preposterous! Remember, Obama is a black Muslim, Ellison is a black Muslim so naturally they are totally best buds and if Ellison wanted to get into the AG's office and do the right thing by Terry he totally could have done that but he didn't so he's a reverse racist! QED stupid libtards.

  28. viennawoods13

    OT, but now Byron Wolf over at ABC is saying that Ann rMoney did NOT say "you" before "people". Right.

    1. Biel_ze_Bubba

      She did not say what everybody heard her say. Her husband is running for President, for Pete's sake!

  29. Estproph

    If Chris Fields ever went on a murder spree, he would claim his innocence: "I didn't shoot those people! The gun did!"

  30. Misty Malarky

    How long do you have to practice reverse racism before you get it perfect?
    Is it anything like practicing the oboe or your tennis serve?

  31. MrsConclusion

    "…do you believe, Andy, in your heart, mind, and soul, that if Brian Terry were black, and this were the Bush administration, and the attorney general were John Ashcroft – if those were the cast of players, do you believe that they would have walked out?”

    And do you believe, Andy, that if Michael Jordan were white, and this were the Martin Sheen administration, because say there really HAD BEEN a Martin Sheen administration, and this was it, and the attorney general had been…oh…Ruth Buzzy, and the Secretary of Dental Appliances–because let's say there was one–was Bill "Moose" Skowron, and the capital of Ohio was Rome, Italy, do you really believe that Keith Ellison wouldn't be black? Because I'm saying he would. No more, no less. I truly believe that, in my heart of hearts."

  32. Tundra Grifter

    So now the right wing nutz will stand on the body of Brian Terry to try to score a cheap political point.

    They were silent when G. Gordon Liddy said "Shot the AFT agents in the head – they wear bulletproof vests."

    They didn't say anything when the NRA called AFT agents "jack-booted thugs."

    Now this.

  33. Blunderthing

    Oh talking to these fucks is like taking a piss into a tornado while trying to eat a bacon lettuce and tomato sandwich and explaining how gravity works to a jellyfish.

  34. gingerland62

    Factually, I didn't call you an assho;e, I said you are the part of the body that passes the poop out.

  35. zippy_w_pinhead

    seriously, where does the GOP find these people? The hardest part of joining the party has got to be the mandatory trephination…

  36. Chow Yun Flat

    I like the idea of "reverse racism". Not that it really exists, of course-an action is either racist (prejudice or discrimination directed against someone of a different race based on hatred or intolerance of that race) or it isn't.

    HOWEVER–it admits the premise that (in Amerikkka) that white racism is real, ubiquitous and enduring so that anything done by non-whites has to be seen in the context of white racism.

  37. ttommyunger

    Or, taking a page from the Faux and Fiends Playbook: "SOME SAY" Chris Fields sucks Elephant dicks for a dime a herd.

  38. Troubledog

    Also, I don't get this part about the guns. In Arizona, anybody can get as many guns as they want.

    You don't need them to fall out of the back of Eric Holder's truck, ya know? They like it like that, in Arizona. So, um, just saying.

  39. DahBoner

    "Keith" Ellison?

    Since when do black people have Irish names??

    Get a "real" Black name, like "Shaq" O'Neil….

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