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In Which A Fox News Host Argues That Crushing Youth Unemployment Is ‘The Best Thing to Happen to Them’

Here is Andrea Tantaros, one of the however-many hosts of Fox News’ The Five, showing a chart of the historically horrid unemployment rates for the 18-24 year old demographic and proceeding to make one of those savvy counterintuitive arguments that earn her the big bucks: “I’ve argued once that maybe the economic downturn was the best thing to happen to them because then they weren’t… so… everybody gets a trophy; maybe they had to go back home and work at the Quizno’s and the Blockbuster and learn the value of a dollar.”

So, to recap: The unemployment rate among 18-24 year olds is crushingly high. Andrea Tantaros looks at this and says — quote — “maybe the economic downturn was the best thing to happen to them,” because now they can learn values.

A few things.

  • If someone has a minimum wage job, they are not unemployed. Depending on their skill sets, they may be underemployed.
  • When young people who have developed skill sets cannot find jobs that match their skill sets and work at minimum wage retail jobs, the economy is in poor condition.
  • High unemployment is an objectively bad thing.
  • When young people are unable to start their careers because of long-lasting terrible economic conditions, a bit of the future is lost.
  • Young people with expensive college degrees or apprenticeships or a viable entrepreneurial vision taking jobs at low-skill retail chains deprive high school students or other brand new entrants to the economy from having those jobs.
  • Suffering is bad.
  • Andrea Tantaros is one of the worst people in history.
  • [Nine hundred other ways of describing how wrong and immoral this is.]

[Media Matters via Atrios]

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175 comments

  1. JadedDissonance

    I would argue that this "young person" talking on the teevee is rising to the level of her incompetence, aka, "Overemployed."

    1. Nibbler of Niblonia

      She learned the value of a dollar when her dad flew her off to Bermuda for a descrete abortion junior year and then bought her a brand new BMW 3 series in exchange for a promise to never speak a word of it to her mother

      1. Advn2rgirl

        Whoa. I'm all for the ad feminem attacks on the obvious stupidity and meanness of what she said, but I'm not down with the "calling women with whom I disagree whores/sluts" thing.

        And it's "discreet."

        1. Nibbler of Niblonia

          Maybe my speculative hypothetical and deliberately exaggerated completely fake scenario missed the mark. I do not, and would not ever, refer to sex or sexuality as a weapon of shaming or oppression on principle.

          I merely meant to illustrate what I surmise is Tantaros' relatively privileged upper-middle class suburban upbringing, in which she was probably given much more than the average American kid working at the Blockbuster or the Quiznos.

          She just has that air about her, doesn't she? She's the girl from Lehigh who got the BMW for having good grades or not getting knocked up or because her daddy loved her or whatever, and she thought she earned it, and all those other slobs driving shitty cars just hadn't worked hard enough.

          Because, I mean, otherwise, she'd be a liberal.

          Is that a discreet enough point for you, proofreading den mother of today's comment thread?

          1. Advn2rgirl

            Oh! See, *I* thought you were saying she was a spoiled daddy-fucker who extorted a sports car out of him for not telling her mom she aborted her grandchild. My bad.

          2. Nibbler of Niblonia

            we're cool. obviously none of this was meant to be taken literally.

            but FACT: she did go to a school that costs over $50k a year and there is no evidence that she ever worked the salamander in a Quiznos or restocked VHS of Home Alone 3 at the Allentown Blockbuster.

          3. JadedDissonance

            I've been to the Allentown Blockbuster. Back when it existed. Smelled like cheese.

    1. JadedDissonance

      Whereas I do not comment on Teh Wonkett for the P-Ness Enlargement, (pro-tip: they don't usually work without a great deal of pain) I must spend a quick second to highlight how cutting and well-executed your comment is. Well done.

    2. Gleem McShineys

      Delorean went out of business, which totally ruins the feasibility of this option anyway.

      1. Nibbler of Niblonia

        maybe someone could travel back in time to save the company! If only there was a vehicle made of stainless steel capable of time travel!

    3. JohnnyQuick

      Don't you see those Blockbuster Kiosks, Libtard! Those can fit at least one small youngster, and just think of all the work they can do inside! No damn union bathroom breaks neither.

  2. noodlesalad

    Also Blockbuster is bankrupt. Or is that a good thing too, for Fox News?

    edit: Since I was beaten to the punch on blockbuster, let me just add that this is a great argument for a 100% estate tax. That's what she means, right?

  3. freakishlywrong

    How fucking old is Andrea Tantaros? Get yer ass to the Chik-fil-a and start slinging fries, cunt. These entitled assholes on wingnut welfare. Fuck. Youuuuuuuuuuuuu.

    1. BlueJoubert

      Kudos!! I love to see a cunt being called a cunt. The most powerful 4 letter combination in the english language because it so OFFENDS cunts like her.

  4. ChernobylSoup

    This is why I don't let my kid play sports. Every time a kid gets a team trophy, the economy dies just a little bit.

    1. kittensdontlie

      Let me get this straight…the worse unemployment is, the better job Nobama is doing. Odd reasoning on her part, but a back-handed compliment is better than none at all…

  5. Callyson

    If Andrea Tantaros were unemployed…maybe the economic downturn was the best thing to happen to her because then she wasn’t…so…maybe she had to go back home and work at the Quizno’s and the Blockbuster and learn the value of a dollar.

    /fixed

    /bitch

  6. PuckStopsHere

    And to top it off, the GOP wants to reduce the Minimum Wage to "Participation Ribbon."

    1. JadedDissonance

      A lack of values definitely goes much deeper than money. There are some people who spend their entire lives in a video game, others chase after fleeting physical fitness and still others prefer to surround themselves with meaningless trinkets pressed out of decomposed dinosaurs. The point in all of this is that value and values are subjective. If you put value on trashbags, then my shopping cart brings all the boys to the yard. If you value cultural relevance, don't vote for Mitt Romney. People with money have value, but that is usually only calculated during tax time or when applying for a mortgage. Given the rather truculent nature of our forensics departments in police stations scattered across the country, it is far more difficult to pull off an effective kidnapping/ransom than it was even 20 years ago. It's getting to the point where the hired-muscle jobs and hit-man-for-hire jobs are getting outsourced and I may need to move back in with my parents. They listen to Rush Limbaugh, and love Chick Fil-A. If we truly valued people with money, we could all have replacement organs and better hair.

      To summarize, it's difficult to listen to people with money talk about values. Heck, it's difficult to hear people talk about values, and what they value, when nobody else does.

      1. Native_of_SL_UT

        The one value I hold most dearly is actually in quite short supply these days.
        Honesty.

        1. sewollef

          Fear not, Fox & Friends are going to drill-baby-drill for it in ANWR…. they think they've found a source.

  7. Dr_Zoidberg

    'Shut up, stupid'.

    That's my new, all-purpose response to everything ever said by a Faux News GOP-mouthpiece.

  8. OneYieldRegular

    If young people really want to learn the value of a dollar (er…a few pennies?), they should go to London.

  9. Steverino247

    Perhaps Ms. Tantaros could get a job blowing burros at some Tijuana dive bar and learn a new set of values.

  10. Baconzgood

    Love that little slide in the estate tax bull shit. FAUX is never one to miss a talking point.

  11. ph7

    He, it's not always easy for Fox to fill the daily bucket of blame. Sometimes you've got to reach.

  12. BaldarTFlagass

    Maybe those kids should travel for a while, get a job at a Nike sneaker factory in Bangladesh, learn the value of a dollar.

  13. Baconzgood

    Yeah these kids should do what she did. Swallow some producers load and presto….You're a "news host".

    1. finallyhappy

      damn, everyone is saying what I thought way before I could even read Wonkette today!!

  14. Goonemeritus

    I am speculating here but I bet it is hard to learn the value of a dollar in an unpaid internship.

    1. finallyhappy

      today, I was asked to work with someone who had almost an identical unpaid internship to my daughter(which led to no job!). I did work with her(I am retired) but I felt like screaming- leave now- there will be no job after you do this free work for this place.

  15. ChernobylSoup

    She's kind of pretty. I don't understand why evolution allows for pretty female Republicans. Seems counterintuitive.

    1. rickmaci

      Yes, I agree it's the work of Satan. They start out looking like her, kinda cute, a little tease of nasty. Then one day you turn around and you're staring at Mann Coulter, Virginia Foxx or Jan Brewer. At that point it's like the song says; "You can check-out any time you like, But you can never leave! "

    2. Biff

      I enjoyed the company of a pretty republican one time, and I've regretted it pretty much ever since.

    3. doloras

      A pretty Republican gets much father than a pretty Democrat because the pretty Republican doesn't need talent, just a complete lack of self-respect.

  16. PsycWench

    Better to be unemployed than to be some kind of "hostage" like poor little Hillary Clinton. I'm sure she sobs everytime her pay is deposited.

  17. Tequila Mockingbird

    This is the same chick who, last December, told Eric Bolling that The Muppets were indoctrinating young children against capitalism.

    And um, Andrea, Blockbuster filed for bankruptcy in 2010 and was acquired by Dish Network last year. Nice to see you're keeping up with the times, hon.

    1. BaldarTFlagass

      I still see Blockbuster video kiosks (same as the Redbox, I reckon) here and there, but I'd hate to have to work in one of those. Awfully cramped.

  18. anniegetyerfun

    Well, that's not fair. This is the kind of thing we would say here at Wonkette, albeit not seriously.

    1. WhatTheHolyHeck

      Or something Barbara Bush would say, in earnest.

      Unless of course the kids were white.

  19. SayItWithWookies

    Andrea, you ignorant slut — people who were born in 1988 aren't kids — they're 24 and out of college and if they work at a fuckin' fast food place you better hope they don't recognize you. Also, you're probably a shitty tipper.

    1. BaldarTFlagass

      Wait, are we supposed to tip at fast-food joints? Fuck! Well, now there's a half-dozen places I'll never set foot in again. Although I do usually give a buck to the kid at the Sonic who brings my order out to the car.

      1. SayItWithWookies

        No, two separate ideas — it's just that I've noticed that folks who tend to lecture poor people on the value of work and money are usually fuckin' tightwads. Not that I want to discourage you from never setting foot in fast-food joints again, mind you.

  20. BaldarTFlagass

    “I’ve argued once that maybe the economic downturn was the best thing to happen to them because then they weren’t… so… everybody gets a trophy;"

    I don't see where arguing this a second time makes any more sense than it probably did the first time. Yer a dum kunt.

  21. YouBetcha

    I know the graphics say "Fox News", but isn't she a little ethnic and not-blond and not-showing-enough-tit to be sitting at a desk during a broadcast? I'm not convinced this is in fact Fox News.

    1. Tequila Mockingbird

      You’d be surprised. As of late, Faux has been jumping on the quota train, with a bevy of brunettes, gingers, and coloreds in their lineup. I mean, pretty much anyone would be willing to spew some right-wing bullet points for a six-figure paycheck, no?

      1. BaldarTFlagass

        As long as I could say "Nudge nudge wink wink" after every bullshit line I read off the teleprompter."

  22. Goonemeritus

    I’m very hopeful for my children’s futures they both have good bicycles and we live on a lake with drinkable water. Having water and transportation in the coming ass-chap wearing dystopia will put them in the 1%

    1. BaldarTFlagass

      Is there an island on the lake that they could retreat to in an emergency? Because if so, then they actually win the survival trifecta, with the water, the transportation, and the ability to escape a zombie attack (since zombies can't swim, ya know).

      1. Goonemeritus

        Better, the lake is so deep that the navy maintains a huge platform to do sonar research (the lake is 800’ deep). It is permanently moored ¾ of mile from shore and has its own generators and stuff. When the zombie apocalypse hits all Wonkette posters in good standing are invited.

        1. vasty_derp

          And you won't forget to post directions when the apocalypse begins?

          (Uh-oh- can zombies read directions?)

          1. Goonemeritus

            The clues are in the posts how many 800 feet deep fresh water lakes with lake trout and naval sonar barges do you think there are. In the future only people proficient with Google will survive.

      2. BigSkullF*ckingDog

        Zombies can walk on the bottom of the lake on account of the not needing to breath and stuff. Read your Max Brooks.

      3. GunToting[Redacted]

        Can't swim, but CAN walk underwater (no drowning) so all they would have to do is walk along the lake bottom until they stumbled upon the island. Think, people!

        1. Goonemeritus

          It’s not an island it is multiple barges moored to the bottom with 1000 foot chains. You do what you want I’m taking my chances on the naval research station.

          1. HistoriCat

            "You do what you want I’m taking my chances on the naval research station."

            Add some dramatic background music and that would be a great shot for the movie trailer.

    2. Gleem McShineys

      There has been too much violence. Too much pain. But I have an honorable compromise. Just walk away. Give me your bike, the water, the ass-chaps, and the whole barge, and I'll spare your lives. Just walk away and we'll give you a safe passageway in the wastelands. Just walk away and there will be an end to the horror.

  23. Texan_Bulldog

    Looks like Fox has run out of empty-headed blondes to spew hateful, stupid shit. And who says Fox isn't equal opportunity?

    1. BaldarTFlagass

      They'd only have that if they were interviewing an actual jobless kid.
      "Well, I got my master's degree and now I've got $150K in debt and the only job I could get was as a noodle maker at Olive Garden, and I got fired from there because I ate a noodle…"

      "AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!"

  24. thefrontpage

    I was married to Andrea Tantaros, for about a year, and, let me tell you, it was not fun. She used to scream out "Jeb Bush is my hero!" in her sleep, she watched Fox News all day, she read books by Republicans all night, and her main social thing to do was go to Republican Central Committee meetings! I only married her for her money. The divorce was pleasant. I have full custody of our four kids. As for economics, finances, jobs, the economy, commerce, manufacturing, labor issues and current events and government and politics–she doesn't know what on earth she's talking about.

    1. BaldarTFlagass

      "I was married to Andrea Tantaros, for about a year"
      "I have full custody of our four kids."

      So did she go in for those fertility drugs? "Quadro-Mom?"

  25. Billmatic

    "If bad things happen to you, you deserve it. I'm on television so obviously I'm great!"

  26. elviouslyqueer

    I'm sorry, but I couldn't hear anything except the mumblings and grumblings of three morons who probably didn't pass "Journalism 101: The Yearbook Years" in high school.

  27. WhatTheHeck

    Now, what is the employment rate for kids of wealthy parents as opposed to kids of the middle class? The solution to this inequality is to employ the kids of middle and working classes into the military, which is the one part of the government which should keep growing.

    This has to be their unstated conclusion.

    1. elviouslyqueer

      Oh, I'd hit it too. With my car. Then I'd put the car in reverse and hit it again, just for good measure.

    2. BornInATrailer

      Me too. But I would like to add on the off chance she accidentally starts to enjoy it (not a problem I typically encounter), I would make sure to remedy that situation.

      1. Biff

        Me too. How on earth is the "money shot" of pr0n fame supposed to be pleasurable for the recipient, anyway?

  28. Hammiepants

    Ah, more Dickensian pronouncements on the plight of the youthful poor by a well-off, overemployed no-talent Faux News hack. So it's Wednesday, then.

  29. Thunderclees

    As a 33-year-old woman, Tantaros has had nine additional years in which to get hers. So congrats on the hard work you put in towards being born at the right time.

  30. Boojum

    This is part of that Nietzsche bullshit. You know what? That which does not kill us does NOT make us stronger. It makes us scarred, crippled, and diminished, easy prey for the next thing to come along.

      1. Biel_ze_Bubba

        More like "the barriers to entry are just the right height" … to keep out the kids of the 99%.

  31. An_Outhouse

    Well, Miranda ran away
    Took her cat and left LA

    She was busted, broke and flat
    Had to sell that pussy cat
    That's the way that it goes
    That's the way … Miranda learned the value of a dollar.

  32. mavenmaven

    And the flip side of the reactionary argument is that what is important in a bad economic situation is to be "pretty" and do what the rich folks want of you, then you might have a shot at escaping the "quizno's" fate of your friends.
    In good economic times this argument has a different name.

  33. bureaucrap

    The up side: this generation can learn the solid values inherent in waiting at the Home Depot for some guy in a mercedes to drive by and see if he can bid down the hourly rate to $3.00/hr (cash under the table) and fighting 75 other desperate guys to the death for the privilege.

  34. barto

    My 24-year-old son works ten hours a day to make all of $110. Andrea makes that much or more for each dumb sentence that spews our of her mouth. There is no justice.

  35. mavenmaven

    OT: This is how the NYT describes a rising tea party "intellectual":

    He called President Obama the country’s “most radical president,” railed against the “gay rights agenda” and warned against new threats to “religious liberty.” Within days, National Review anointed him as “the next great conservative hope.”

    If that's their intellectual, what does their average person say?

    1. BaldarTFlagass

      Even living in an abandoned building that used to be a Quizno's or Blockbuster gives you more dignity than working for Fox.

  36. chascates

    'Everyone getting a trophy' leads to a dangerously high self-esteem which makes one unwilling to take the soul-crushing, low paying jobs our 21st century economy depends on. Learning the values of 'keeping your nose to the grindstone' and 'shutting the fuck up' is better for society (of managers and owners) as well.

  37. Millennial Malaise

    Can someone get this bitch an inflation calculator to teach her the "value of a dollar"? Earning $7.50 an hour at one of the four Blockbusters left in America will pay for nutritious meals at Quiznos. And that's about it.

  38. thetimchannel

    I am only surprised she chose Quiznos over Chick Fil A. The problem isn't that our kids have been molly coddled (they have). The problem is that she doesn't just want them to start at a minimum wage position but that her and her party are bound and determined to rig the game so they can never rise about it. Enjoy.

  39. Blunderthing

    Well, one must put a positive spin on the Apocalypse when one is in the business of making it happen.

  40. MadBrahms

    I'll tell you the value of a dollar: not very fucking much. Yes, "kids" who have to move back home will learn all about value, namely that their labor is only worth the price of a chicken sandwich at Wendy's.

  41. CrunchyKnee

    If only there were a book somewhere whose later half was dedicated to some guy who said to love the poors, and that the rich were pretty much dicks, which these fuckers could rally behind.

  42. Edith_Prickly

    Oh come on you guys, it's REALLY HARD WORK attaining the right level of entitled douchebaggery that gets you hired by Fox News. All those nights you have to spend kissing ass at the Applebee's salad bar….

  43. RadioBowels

    And all the single ladies should prostitute themselves to learn the value of a buck fuck.

  44. anniegetyerfun

    Wait, so when Obama personally destroyed the economy with his Kenyan hands, Andrea applauded with hers? OK.

  45. sullivanst

    It's been pointed out over and over again, when new college graduates hit a horrific employment marketplace like we've had for the past four years, their careers never recover. They will never make up for the earnings shortfall during these bad times. There's nothing good, and absolutely nothing remotely close to the "best thing", about it.

    1. Naked_Bunny

      If you don't get a job that utilizes your education right away, employers assume there's something wrong with you.

      1. sullivanst

        You'd kind of hope that most employers would realize that it might make sense to make an adjustment for people graduating into an historically terrible jobs market. The point is, though, that your job skills development is deferred and people assume you start to forget your education (FSM knows I couldn't solve a Sturm-Liouville eigenvalue problem any more, let alone a path integral).

  46. CHUDster_Arthur

    "If only young people had not been so irresponsible as to believe us when we said that they could do anything they wanted with their lives."

  47. Antispandex

    Let me say right off the bat, I do not know Ms. Tantaros. However, I'm willing to bet that she isn't taking no stinking minimum wage job at Wal-Mart. Just a guess.

    1. Biff

      The walmart near me recently let all their greeters and receipt-checkers go. Must've been really cutting into their bottom line.

  48. poorgradstudent

    McDonald's has been flooded with a historic number of job applicants for the past few years, but let's not bring "facts" into this.

  49. Tundra Grifter

    Yesterday I heard The Silly Savage seriously state that because a prominent climate change skeptic had changed his position and concluded, based on the available evidence, that humans are having an adverse effect on our planet, that his actions proved the science remains unsettled.

    This, according to Savage, is "The Scientific Method." Now, he did fuzz it up a bit with some snide remarks about grant funding – not realizing, or not acknowledging, this gentleman's study was paid for by the Koch Brothers.

    Still, the mind reeled.

  50. Slim_Pickins

    I would not describe her argument as "counter intuitive," I'd describe it as a Non Sequitur.

  51. notgross

    Because nothing screams "content employee" like a college grad prepping your $5 Foot Long.

  52. Gleem McShineys

    “I've argued once that maybe slavery was the best thing to happen to blacks because then they weren’t… so… everybody gets to be equal"

    “I’ve argued once that maybe the Holocaust was the best thing to happen to Jews because then they weren’t… so… everybody gets to be alive"

    Yes, Andrea, we've heard your arguments before. Just slightly different.

  53. Nostrildamus

    Andrea, losing that on-air commentator job and going to work for Quizno's would probably be the best thing that could happen to you. For us, too.

  54. Naked_Bunny

    I think we should drop Andrea Tantaros in the middle of the ocean. It'll teach her the value of seeking dry land instead of the "everybody gets to not drown when they sleep" mentality.

  55. doloras

    Republican answers to points raised:

    "When young people who have developed skill sets cannot find jobs that match their skill sets and work at minimum wage retail jobs, the economy is in poor condition."

    It's their fault for getting skill sets that Jerb Creators don't want. This will teach them that we need less philosophers and artists and more corporate drones.

    "High unemployment is an objectively bad thing."

    No, all it means is that wages are too high and more people should be living in boxes on the street, because that's their objective value in the Glorious Free Market.

    "When young people are unable to start their careers because of long-lasting terrible economic conditions, a bit of the future is lost."

    Well boo hoo. Why are "their careers" important? The important thing is what the Jerb Creators can profit from on the Glorious Free Market. That's the only measure of value.

  56. AznMom420

    I like the rest of that clip because you can see everyone hold their breath while the guy talking makes up whatever he's going to say. And then the pregnant pause afterward where they all try to yell at him for contradicting the nazi lady who's envious of participation ribbons.

  57. ttommyunger

    I haz confused, my eyes say "mos def fuckable" but my ears tell me "instant soft-on". Same thing happens with the Cupp Cunt. What a waste of pussy!

  58. mrblifil

    The Blockbuster reference is cracking me up because it proves when they are prepping her for the show they're pulling out the index cards they used to defend Bush ca. 2002. It's obvious she's too dumb to know the reference is outdated, but it's funny that the Svengali who gets all the titty fucking is now shown to be a completely out of touch douchebag. Which is an even bigger kind of douchebag than he already was.

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