HACKS  5:36 pm July 31, 2012

Awesome Pundits Just Cannot Stop Saying Idiotic Things About Elizabeth Warren

by Doktor Zoom


In the annals of political lying, quoting someone out of context is almost not even surprising any more, as anyone familiar with the “you didn’t build that” nonsense knows (and yes, same goes for “I like to fire people”). The original comment, disconnected from its context, gets lost in volleys of misleading quotes. But it takes a special kind of chootzpah to lie about someone even as you include, right next to your lies, a copy of the very thing you are lying about. Consider this ad for Elizabeth Warren’s Senate campaign, above.

Pretty insane stuff, isn’t it? So of course, it’s perfectly reasonable that red-’bating doofus Ira Stoll, proprietor of the failed-newspaper-that’s-now-a-website The New York Sun would describe Warren’s position thusly:
“Elizabeth Warren Praising Communist China as a Model for America”

See what he did there? After all, Warren actually does say that the USA should do something sort of like what China is doing, so clearly she wants us to become a dissident-shooting, abortion-forcing, one-party dictatorship too! This is pretty much the tenor of the whole piece — for instance, Stoll “proves” that increasing US infrastructure spending to match China’s 9% of GDP would be ruinously expensive, even though Warren never says anything about matching that rate. And so on. Mr. Stoll apparently hopes to be remembered as the Emperor Qin Shi Huang of blogging, and has assembled an impressive army of straw men to accompany him to the afterlife.

Just in case Elizabeth Warren didn’t already have enough fools to suffer, vapid pudding Luke Russert, notable primarily for his steadfast abstinence from socks, had an insight regarding Warren’s scheduled appearance at the Democratic Convention:

How DOES he do it???

Because why would you possibly want to showcase someone at a political convention that the other party doesn’t like?

You know who else is a lightning rod for controversy? Barack Hussein Nobama. Maybe the Dems will smarten up and leave him off the program too.

[New York Sun, TBogg]

 
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Come here a minute July 31, 2012 at 5:39 pm

I remember the good old days when the Grand Old Party had the universally beloved Pat Buchanan as their keynote speaker. Yay centrism!

ChernobylSoup July 31, 2012 at 5:54 pm

Chris Christie is giving the keynote this year. He's not much of a lightning rod but there will be a bit of a to-do when he eats the audience.

keinsignal July 31, 2012 at 6:02 pm

Yeah, not so much a "lighting rod" as a "gravitational well".

sullivanst July 31, 2012 at 6:45 pm

"That's not thunder, that's just Chris Christie snoring"

Doktor Zoom July 31, 2012 at 8:03 pm

Obligatory "That's no moon…."

TheMightyHaltor July 31, 2012 at 6:43 pm

It won't happen again…Buchanan is *way* too liberal for today's GOP.

ManchuCandidate July 31, 2012 at 5:39 pm

Luke Russert… the dipshitty cluesless puffed up pumpkin head does not roll far from the pumpkin vine.

GhostBuggy July 31, 2012 at 5:48 pm

You can't make fun of the Russerts, because one of them liked football and died. I know these things, because I was told them for 48 hours almost non-stop.

mwittier July 31, 2012 at 6:05 pm

Also, motherfucking white board. See: patron saint of.

HobbesEvilTwin July 31, 2012 at 6:02 pm

As our government goes (Bush>Clinton>Bush>almost Clinton), so goes our media (Tim > Luke).
Who would have thought legacy applicant would ever apply to the job pool?

miss_grundy July 31, 2012 at 7:28 pm

Because daddy had been in charge of Meet the Press and died while working on set, his son is now a shoe-in for a job as a journalist, even though he probably never went to grad school or did any of the stuff that really good journalists do to get experience. I think NBC just gives shovels of money away to the kid.

horsedreamer_1 July 31, 2012 at 9:05 pm

He interned for Tony Kornheiser & Michael Wilbon on PTI.

He couldn't even hold Statboy's jock. Rest assured, he's not turned into Dan Rather, now.

Callyson July 31, 2012 at 5:39 pm

No snark–I would totally gay marry Elizabeth Warren. Other Dems could learn a thing or 10,000 from her.

vasty_derp July 31, 2012 at 5:49 pm

Aw, you beat me to it. EW is truly awesome, & I am so looking forward to her convention speech.

HobbesEvilTwin July 31, 2012 at 6:03 pm

I am so looking forward to her replacing the self-aggrandizing pantywaist.

boobookitteh July 31, 2012 at 6:16 pm

I am so looking forward to voting for her. Like, I'm gonna smile and do the Snoopy dance when I pull the lever.

TootsStansbury July 31, 2012 at 8:23 pm

Heehee I am jelly.

glasspusher July 31, 2012 at 8:55 pm

She makes me smile and want to pull my lever…

Nothingisamiss July 31, 2012 at 5:51 pm

I'll be your sister wife.

Not_So_Much July 31, 2012 at 6:49 pm

Like how to talk good. I mean, speak in a plain, easy-to-understand manner.

kittensdontlie July 31, 2012 at 8:27 pm

She's only the best spokesperson/candidate there is…May this shining star remain burning brightly for 2016.

Hammiepants July 31, 2012 at 5:39 pm

What Democrat isn't a lightning rod for criticism? Does Luke Russert actually live in the US?

Blueb4sinrise July 31, 2012 at 5:51 pm

John C. Calhoun?

rickmaci July 31, 2012 at 5:58 pm

"NORWALK, Conn., Aug. 1.–Rufus D. Cable, ex-Representative and ex-Selectman of Westport, and a prominent local Democratic politician, was struck by lightning during the severe thunder shower Tuesday afternoon and seriously injured."

New York Times. 8/2/1889

mwittier July 31, 2012 at 6:07 pm

Allison Janney. AKA Flamingo.

Doktor Zoom July 31, 2012 at 6:10 pm

"Code name Flamingo" would be an excellent online commenting nym.

Nostrildamus July 31, 2012 at 6:15 pm

pho?

Biel_ze_Bubba July 31, 2012 at 5:41 pm

No commie-socialist bullet trains for you, Florida. That would be like praising China – or France!

sullivanst July 31, 2012 at 6:54 pm

Or Italy or Spain or South Korea or Germany or Japan or the UK. Wait, is the special relationship special?

MittBorg July 31, 2012 at 9:28 pm

Not any more, sugar.

extreme_left July 31, 2012 at 11:05 pm

the simple fact is that the future is socialist.

Callyson July 31, 2012 at 5:43 pm

Hard to see the benefit of #NBC giving Tim Russert a prime time slot on NBC considering that he's such a snoozefest of a commenter

/fixed

/asshole

valgal2342 July 31, 2012 at 5:48 pm

That would be Luke, Tim would be a tough get. :-)

HobbesEvilTwin July 31, 2012 at 6:04 pm

they'd both be about equal in terms of intelligence and analytic skills.

Charlie_Foxtrot July 31, 2012 at 6:24 pm

Still rather have Tim than Luke. When did journalism become a hereditary sinecure? Is Luke some sort of Dubya of the fourth estate? He's probably hemophiliac as well a feeble-minded.

Luke is not qualified to speak EW's name, let alone question who speaks for the Dems. Go haze a freshman, frat boy.

Warren for President!

TheMightyHaltor July 31, 2012 at 6:47 pm

But you've gotta agree with the original post. Giving Tim Russert a prime time slot on NBC would be – after the initial shock – a snoozefest.

PhilippePetain July 31, 2012 at 5:43 pm

Still no word on when Ira Stoll stopped beating his wife as badly as he is 'bating the Reds.

Hedley_Lamarr July 31, 2012 at 5:43 pm

Fucking Chinese are better capitalists than we are, as evidenced by the fact that THEY OWN EVERYTHING.
Oh, and egg rolls.

RadioBowels July 31, 2012 at 7:05 pm

They are also good at exploiting labor, Monopoly® and talking in quiet rooms. Oh yeah, and ping-pong.

kittensdontlie July 31, 2012 at 8:33 pm

China is kickiing our butts,… hell they own our sorry butts1 If they stop buying our bonds, we are in a world of hurt…if their economy takes a hard landing, lookout below! If they decide to invade us, we will be on the losing end of that fight.

Hedley_Lamarr July 31, 2012 at 8:51 pm

I'm not too worried about an invasion, their navy is decades away from the ability to accomplish that. Easier (and cheaper) to buy us out.

kittensdontlie July 31, 2012 at 10:19 pm

Let's hope the term 'mongol hordes' never has a modern interpretation.

Charlie_Foxtrot August 1, 2012 at 1:41 am

Didn't the Mongols actually invade China, rather than launch invasions from China? And once they "conquered" China, China absorbed them.

I'm not sure China has invaded anyone (besides Vietnam for a few months in 1979) in the past 5000 years.

And speaking of the Mongols, Genghis Khan had the good sense to cut a deal with the tribes of Afghanistan and steer clear of the Graveyard of Empires. Unlike Alexander the Great, the British Empire, and the Soviet Union, who all decided to do some nation-building there. Am I forgetting anyone else who immolated themselves with adventures in Afghanistan…?

MittBorg July 31, 2012 at 9:29 pm

Mahjongg.

Also, too, dim sum.

Biel_ze_Bubba July 31, 2012 at 5:44 pm

Yes, the Dems should not give a prime position to anybody the GOPtards criticize. Sorry, Barack, but there's just no arguing with that logic.

miss_grundy July 31, 2012 at 7:33 pm

At this point it doesn't matter. The GOPtards will criticize anybody and everybody that the Dems will have to speak at the convention. What Dems should do is tweet and update on Facebook every stupid shitty thing they, the GOP, say, at their convention, and rebut the argument with cool, clear logic. There has to be some people left in America who have critical thinking skills and that will see the light.

Doktor Zoom July 31, 2012 at 7:57 pm

Hahahahahahahaha!

Good one.

memzilla July 31, 2012 at 5:44 pm

To paraphrase Mencken, no one ever went broke underestimating the political intelligence of the American people.

Tundra Grifter July 31, 2012 at 5:44 pm

If I hear one more right wing nut quote Speaker Pelosi's "we have to pass the bill in order to know what's in it" it's going to get ugly.

Just sayin'.

RadioBowels July 31, 2012 at 7:07 pm

The one that gets me is; This is the Most Important Election in Our Lifetime®

Tundra Grifter July 31, 2012 at 7:50 pm

Great call! I must agree with you on that one! As if electing George Bush wasn't a debacle.

NorthStarSpanx August 1, 2012 at 9:08 am

How about the Fundamental(s) (whatever) of America?

Let's Take Our Country back.

Or as Sheriff Arpaio's campaign finally admits, Take it.

MissTaken July 31, 2012 at 5:46 pm

Oh Luke, *your* lightening rod for criticism is the Dems' catalyst for campaign enthusiasm. It's okay, you must've skipped the class Politics – How The Fuck Does It Work? 101 because you couldn't find decent socks to wear that day.

ChernobylSoup July 31, 2012 at 5:49 pm

It wasn't the socks. His dad didn't die that semester and leave him an open seat in the classroom.

Mittens Howell, III July 31, 2012 at 9:46 pm

What the hell does that boy do with all of his socks if he's not wearing them?

MosesInvests August 1, 2012 at 1:12 am

You *don't* want to know.

horsedreamer_1 August 1, 2012 at 6:32 pm

Many a Buffalo Jills calendar has been soiled for want of a sock.

deanbooth July 31, 2012 at 5:46 pm

It's always the Communists, isn't it? It took 30 years to teach these fools to say "the Soviet Union" instead of "the Russians," and it's going to take another 30 to get them to go back to "Russians" again.

mwittier July 31, 2012 at 6:10 pm

Which is why I never wandered too far from "Russkies."
Even in xenophobia, classics are always a good bet.

spends2much July 31, 2012 at 5:46 pm

Oh goodie, a new Twitter account to go to town on when the PMS hits. Look out, Luke Russert, you entitled, talentless dipshit!

Nothingisamiss July 31, 2012 at 5:53 pm

Hormonal surges can be quite empowering.

SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU ENTITLED DIPSHIT.

Callyson July 31, 2012 at 5:46 pm

America and China are at different junctures in our development. America built a lot of bridges, tunnels, and highways in the 1950s and 1960s when China was stuck under Communism. A lot of China’s spending now isn’t going to outpace America but to catch up with things that we’ve had here for decades, like potable water and a population that is mostly non-rural.

So, because we built things already we don't have to bother to maintain them? Has this idiot taken a ride on our crumbling roads lately?

Christ, if I hit one more pothole I'm afraid my car will snap in two…

Fare la Volpe July 31, 2012 at 5:53 pm

If I go over one more bridge I'm afraid the bridge will snap in two.

miss_grundy July 31, 2012 at 7:36 pm

You must live in Michigan!

Callyson July 31, 2012 at 7:53 pm

No–Los Angeles, actually. But roads are crappy pretty much everywhere these days…

MilwaukeeKent July 31, 2012 at 11:53 pm

Lighten up. After only four years, they replaced the burnt-out lightbulb in the streetlight across from our house. It's not like we're the old Soviet Union or anything.

didgen August 1, 2012 at 2:02 am

There for a moment I thought we must be neighbors.

Lionel[redacted]Esq July 31, 2012 at 5:47 pm

Yes, we wouldn't want to be as good of capitalist as the Commie Chinese. That would be just wrong.

SayItWithWookies July 31, 2012 at 5:47 pm

Remember all those US presidents from Kennedy to — maybe Reagan? — who kept harping on our "missile gap" or some other weapons gap with the USSR? Why were they constantly praising the Soviet Union and saying we should emulate them?

RadioBowels July 31, 2012 at 7:09 pm

No Domino Shall Fall!

Biel_ze_Bubba August 1, 2012 at 9:28 am

Leave No Domino Behind

HistoriCat August 1, 2012 at 11:46 am

Leave No Domino Defense Contractor Behind

ChernobylSoup July 31, 2012 at 5:47 pm

Elizabeth Warren and Bill Clinton are both going to speak at the DNC. I'll watch Clinton if I have time; I'll cut anyone who gets in the way of me listening to Warren.

MissTaken July 31, 2012 at 5:53 pm

I'm already charging my vibrator for her speech.

LesBontemps July 31, 2012 at 6:07 pm

I'll watch at your house, then.

RadioBowels July 31, 2012 at 7:09 pm

Stand your ground!

Lionel[redacted]Esq July 31, 2012 at 5:47 pm

So, will Russert-lite tell us who the Republicans can have speak that isn't a lightning rod?

Dudleydidwrong July 31, 2012 at 6:52 pm

They are resurrecting Ronny Reagan. It'll be a ventriloquist act.

bobbert July 31, 2012 at 7:20 pm

Just like the old days, then.

HistoriCat August 1, 2012 at 11:48 am

I guess the guys who did the hologram Tupac were too busy preparing a hologram Romney (for a coherent and non-offending speech) to work on Reagan.

bobbert July 31, 2012 at 7:19 pm

So, will Russert-lite tell us who the Republicans can have speak that isn't a lightning nimrod?

edgydrifter July 31, 2012 at 5:48 pm

I heard Warren used that sacred bust of Churchill as fill when she regraded her driveway last year.

Generation[redacted] July 31, 2012 at 5:50 pm

I heard that too, but first she skull fucked it with a hammer-and-sickle shaped strap on.

TribecaMike July 31, 2012 at 11:23 pm

That rumor ought to sew up the Irish vote.

Arkoday July 31, 2012 at 5:49 pm

Your first femme-prez. 4 years from now. Mark my words, soakeded though they be by this intellectual lust I haz for her. She is the awesomest. Also.

vasty_derp July 31, 2012 at 5:55 pm

From your lips to FSM's ears…

LesBontemps July 31, 2012 at 6:08 pm

From your lips to FSM's ears meatballs…

FTFY.

Also, may you be touched by His Noodly Appendage.

vasty_derp July 31, 2012 at 6:28 pm

Ramen!

Negropolis August 1, 2012 at 12:38 am

She'll have to knock off Hillary Clinton first. I don't care what anyone says, Hillary is running, again.

Generation[redacted] July 31, 2012 at 5:49 pm

Well you won't catch Republicans having any of their former Presidents (or Vice Presidents) speak at their convention!

Trannysurprise July 31, 2012 at 5:49 pm

Based on this bit of absolutely perfect no one can fucking argue with logic, when do they announce Scalia as the Dems keynote speaker?

Callyson July 31, 2012 at 5:49 pm

U.S. gross domestic product is about $15 trillion a year. Increasing infrastructure “investment” to the 9% Chinese level that Ms. Warren cites would mean an additional $1 trillion a year in government spending. That’s an immense spending increase.

Asshole, Elizabeth Warren did not say we should spend 9% on infrastructure–she said "We can do better." Different concept.

Yeah, I know it's difficult for you…

Badonkadonkette July 31, 2012 at 5:50 pm

Hard to see benefit of #Pubes giving Chris Crisco a prime spot at RNC seeing as he's a disgusting, bilious ball of fat whose only value is to remind people that even the most dickish, lazy, and truculent high school bullies can be the heroes of at least one political party.

chascates July 31, 2012 at 5:51 pm

It's actually an urban legend that more people kill themselves around major holidays than normal. I'd like to know what the uptick in suicides and violence is in the three months before a Presidential election. I am so relieved I only watch PBS on my monitor and listen to community/classical radio. How can anyone expect to be assaulted all waking hours listening to political ads and not think of attacking the 'other' that is devouring our entire country? The billions spent on ad time, in some cases buying it up just no one else has access to it, will be viewed 50 or 100 years from now as the most bizarre aspect of American life since slavery.

Designer_Rants July 31, 2012 at 10:36 pm

I live in a "swing state", and the sheer amount of political ads is staggering. The guy from Mass. who's mad cuz he built his business (with a $million in gov't contracts/grants/handjobs); the ad about how Obama took all our munneez and gave it to some Finnish Fags to build queer wind-powered mopeds; the one where the RNC gently breaks it to me that my president tried real hard, but he no good, and it's just plain okay to vote him out of office, cuz he just don't know no better and I deserve more than that….

And I watch only a half-hour of live TV-with-commercials per day and still see about a dozen of the political ones. It's disgusting.

valthemus July 31, 2012 at 5:52 pm

“Elizabeth Warren Praising Communist China as a Model for America While Burning American Flags, Defecating on a Copy of the Constitution, Mangling the National Anthem, Handing out Coupons for Abortionplex and Fornicating with No Aspirin Between Her Knees. And Beating Her Wife while Dropping Crucifixes into Cups of Piss. Eats Babies.”

mwittier July 31, 2012 at 6:13 pm

No flag pin. Unconscionable woman.

HogeyeGrex July 31, 2012 at 5:53 pm

A lightning rod for criticism… from ridiculous propaganda hacks like Russert.

Fare la Volpe July 31, 2012 at 5:54 pm

You know who else once said a thing about China?

Richard Nixon.

Q.E.D., libtards.

horsedreamer_1 July 31, 2012 at 9:07 pm

I was going to say Pearl S. Buck.

usuhname July 31, 2012 at 5:55 pm

I hear that nice Mittens Romney fellow is a popular international public speaker – maybe the Demis should hire his act?

poorgradstudent July 31, 2012 at 5:57 pm

Luke Russert puts the twat in Twatter.

Chet Kincaid July 31, 2012 at 5:58 pm

Luke Russert and Megs McCain would make a nice couple. With his insights and her gift for writing, they could be a brain-damaged Carville & Matalin.

Doktor Zoom July 31, 2012 at 6:02 pm

Oh, ouch. heh…That's good snark, there.

Chet Kincaid July 31, 2012 at 6:56 pm

Let's just stand here admiring each other for a minute!

Mojopo July 31, 2012 at 6:07 pm

Here a sample of the dialogue. Let's pretend it's about politics.

Luke: So uh, Obama.
Meg: I'm like whatevarrr.
Luke: Iknowrite? But seriously.
Meg: Soooo…
Luke: Yeh.

Kill.me.now!

Chet Kincaid July 31, 2012 at 7:03 pm

Luke: Can I see 'em?!

HobbesEvilTwin July 31, 2012 at 6:10 pm

you seem to imply that Carville and Matalin do not suffer brain damage.

Mary has always been a shrill c**t and JimmyJamesRagin'Cagin Jackass clearly lost his mind sometime before he begged the judge in the Scooter Libby trial to go easy on that asshole.

imissopus July 31, 2012 at 7:21 pm

I thought Carville and Matalin were a brain-damaged Carville and Matalin.

Mittens Howell, III July 31, 2012 at 9:39 pm

You're right there. I think he meant a young, attractive, brain-damaged Carville and Matalin.

Come here a minute July 31, 2012 at 9:51 pm

ANOTHER unattractive, brain-damaged Carville and Matalin. A.K.A. ,Carvatalint@rdz.

neiltheblaze July 31, 2012 at 8:05 pm

I'll bet Walnuts has really fond memories of Luke's Pop too.

Doktor Zoom July 31, 2012 at 5:59 pm

In a just world, Stoll would be laughed out of business. Instead, most of the comments on Warren's YouTube page paraphrase his column.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 1, 2012 at 9:31 am

He's been laughed out of one business already. Too bad this one's got so little overhead, that even a zombie like Brightfart can stay in operation.

Mojopo July 31, 2012 at 6:01 pm

What kind of pudding IS Luke Russert? He is not butterscotch, because that is delicious. Is he some kind of spotted English pudding with grease – more like suet than a dessert? That would seem plausible to me. Good Heavens, do people really follow that suet cake on the Twatter?

RadioBowels July 31, 2012 at 7:12 pm

It must be grueling.

neiltheblaze July 31, 2012 at 7:12 pm

"….do people really follow that suet cake on the Twatter?"

102,839 of them, as of five minutes ago. I don't really know enough about Twitter to know if that's a big number for someone with his exposure. I can't believe many of them follow him with both eyes.

emmelemm July 31, 2012 at 7:21 pm

do people really follow that suet urinal cake on the Twatter?

Rude, but I just had to say it.

extreme_left July 31, 2012 at 11:23 pm

if there was such a thing as cabbage pudding he would be it.

horsedreamer_1 August 1, 2012 at 6:34 pm

Non-lettuce leafy vegetable libel!

I had cabbage on my Mc Chicken sandwiches in Romania; delicious!

Fraudulently_Joe August 1, 2012 at 10:49 pm

FACT: all delicious green vegetables are in fact the same species: cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, kale, Brussels sprouts, savoy, romanesco broccoli, kohlrabi, collard greens, Chinese kale…

FACT #2: the ONLY proper way to cook any of them does not involve boiling, but rather, tossing with olive oil, lemon juice, and salt, and then either sautee-ing, or ideally, baking until ideal delicious crispiness is obtained.

FACT #3: Any delicious vegetable that is NOT secretly cabbage is still VERY closely related to cabbage.

Negropolis August 1, 2012 at 10:15 pm

Spotted Dick?

Maman July 31, 2012 at 6:03 pm

Really?! Honestly. Why not just say Elizabeth Warren wants Massachusetts to be like China? Idiots.

Jerri July 31, 2012 at 6:03 pm

Nice of NBC to give a hungry young journalist a chance in this crazy mixed up business, I say.

mwittier July 31, 2012 at 6:04 pm

Elizabeth Warren just needs to release thirty seconds of footage of herself, smilingly eating a big fucking bowl of lo mein, skilfully, with chopsticks, while occasionally murmuring, "Mmmmmm. Chinese."
Followed by, "I'm imperturbable Elizabeth Warren, and I endorse this fucking lo mein."

Why must we take these people seriously?

Biel_ze_Bubba July 31, 2012 at 6:05 pm

"[C]learly she wants us to become a dissident-shooting, abortion-forcing, one-party dictatorship too!"

Flip the abortion thing 180º and you've got the wingnut platform.

FlownOver July 31, 2012 at 6:06 pm

Somebody (and I'm looking at you, Loose Ruckert) lacks the insight necessary to be aware of his own lack of insight. We all sorta hope people like that will reach their prescribed level of incompetence (and then eventually fade away), but look at the competition in broadcast media these days. I predict a spike in the incidence of bulimia by November.

Biel_ze_Bubba July 31, 2012 at 6:13 pm

No telling where lightning will strike, when the trees are all the right height.

Nostrildamus July 31, 2012 at 6:14 pm

the Emperor Qin Shi Huang of blogging

I was thinking Emperor Wang Dork Dong, but whatev'.

Dudleydidwrong July 31, 2012 at 6:46 pm

Emperor Hu Flung Poo is the one who comes to mind. The Shit U Dynasty.

Blunderthing July 31, 2012 at 6:18 pm

Quoting someone correctly requires giving a damn enough to listen in the first place and yada yer dog yer cat yer mouse and spice girls don't cry git along liddle doggie.

LetUsBray July 31, 2012 at 6:19 pm

O/T, but since yahoo makes me look at this shit every time I check my e-mail, could we have a thread or at least some discussion about how Jeff Greefield is dishonest, willfully ignorant hack who won't acknowledge that economic indicators are bad largely because the Rethugs have been fighting tooth and nail to keep them that way?
http://news.yahoo.com/add-it-up–the-prediction-m

Blueb4sinrise July 31, 2012 at 6:31 pm

Jeff Greefield is a dishonest, willfully ignorant hack who won't acknowledge that economic indicators are bad largely because the Rethugs have been fighting tooth and nail to keep them that way.

Doktor Zoom July 31, 2012 at 6:45 pm

I would simply add that Jeff Greefield is a non-truthful, deliberately uninformed lackey who refuses to recognize that fiscal measurements are negative largely because the wingnuts have been fighting hammer and tongs to keep them that way.

mwittier July 31, 2012 at 6:47 pm

You have won me over to your way of thinking. I used to hotly deny that Jeff Greefield is a dishonest, willfully ignorant hack who won't acknowledge that economic indicators are bad largely because the Rethugs have been fighting tooth and nail to keep them that way.
But now, after this discussion, I see your point. Nothing beats a good discussion.

Blueb4sinrise July 31, 2012 at 7:05 pm

Ah, thanks for illustrating that there are, indeed, other possible points of view that someone, sometime once held. THAT"S balance right there.
WONKETTES ROOOOOLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!

vasty_derp July 31, 2012 at 6:26 pm

I'm looking at the 'awesome pundits' part of the post headline, & didn't need to read more than the headline to realize that no awesome pundits would be mentioned. But I am now trying to rack my brains to come up with the name of any pundits who actually ARE awesome. Or at least usually worth reading. Any suggestions?

bobbert July 31, 2012 at 7:24 pm

Krugman.

Advn2rgirl July 31, 2012 at 8:04 pm

Robert Reich. My pretend boyfriend, Nate Silver. Melissa Harris-used to be Lacewell. Ezra Klein (who you never see in the same room as Nate, if you think about it.) Rachel Maddow for commentary, although Drift is really good.

vasty_derp July 31, 2012 at 10:58 pm

We don't have MSNBC, so I'm pretty unfamiliar with some of these folks. I do like Robert Reich- unlike many liberals, he listens to the non-liberals, so can do a nice job of critiquing their sacred cows. I had a look at Nate Silver's NYT blog- does he just do election forecasts? (I've never seen Mr. Klein or Mr. Silver in any room, but I also have been excluded from Romney's quiet rooms- mine is a provincial existence in many ways.) I'll have a look at the MSNBC web site to see what I can find- thanks!

Doktor Zoom July 31, 2012 at 8:36 pm

Reprints of Molly Ivins–still better than most of what living writers are producing, and still depressingly timely. Only the names of the idiots have changed.

vasty_derp July 31, 2012 at 9:43 pm

I met her once back when I lived in Austin. Extremely nice & surprisingly soft-spoken. Yes, her stuff is still pretty fine.

Advn2rgirl July 31, 2012 at 10:47 pm

I miss her and Anne Richards sooo much! I have this quotation from Molly on the wall of my classroom, gently edited: "So keep fightin' for freedom and justice, beloveds, but don't you forget to have fun doin' it. Lord, let your laughter ring forth. Be outrageous, ridicule the fraidy-cats, rejoice in all the oddities that freedom can produce. And when you get through kickin' ass and celebratin' the sheer joy of a good fight, be sure to tell those who come after how much fun it was. "

vasty_derp August 1, 2012 at 1:57 am

Very nice! What do you teach?

Advn2rgirl August 1, 2012 at 9:17 am

Government/Civics, Econ., and History. It's basically a users' guide to the Constitution.

Katydid July 31, 2012 at 6:27 pm

Are you implying that the 25-year-old snotnosed son of a dead journalist who was a sniveling suckup cocksucker himself, and whose son got his job by virtue of the cocksucker dropping dead, probably while sucking cock, and all the power of white privilege coming to bear, is NOT a good journalist? How dare you, Zoom, I feel the vapors coming on.

neiltheblaze July 31, 2012 at 6:43 pm

You say "sucking cock" as if it's a bad thing.

bobbert July 31, 2012 at 7:25 pm

Well, if it caused him to drop dead, maybe.

Oh, wait, Russert, right? Nevermind.

Baconzgood July 31, 2012 at 6:30 pm

Unrelated to this post

I really can't snark. I'd like to but I'm pissed because DB (see posts from way back) destroyed my bike because he got fired 3 weeks back and blames Bacon. I know this now. Because the garage I park my bike at has a camera pointing at the attendant to make sure he doesn't steal. The gate keeper took a piss and DB destroyed my bike. Wich one can clearly see because the bike rack is in the frame. This angers Baconz, who is. A a ppetty melow dude. It was only a cheap MT but the point is if I would have brought the lil' lady's, or my Company Car, he would have destroyed that. Now I am waiting to file a complaint at the police station.

emmelemm July 31, 2012 at 6:41 pm

Not cool, man. Not cool.

May the wheel of karma roll over him in a most unpleasant way.

Baconzgood July 31, 2012 at 6:52 pm

New development (sorry for the bad spelling errors but I'm on my phone). If you have been following my office prank with co-worker X you need no back story. Racist DB smashed co-worker X's. Windows too. Co-worker X just walked in 10 min ago. Doesn't take Dr. Watson to solve this case.

Monsieur_Grumpe July 31, 2012 at 7:04 pm

Fucking with your bike is personal. Once you place your ass on that seat for a few miles…. it's personal.

MissTaken July 31, 2012 at 6:56 pm

So not only is he a Racist Douchebag, he's also a Stupid Dick who needs to be thrown in jail.

Good luck, Baconz and sorry about your bike.

MosesInvests August 1, 2012 at 1:25 am

Trashed your BIKE? I speak as a clergyman here-you have full Divine sanction to go medieval on his ass. Thus sayeth MosesInvests, who when he is not quoting Monty Python on Wonkette can generally be found on a bike.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 1, 2012 at 9:46 am

DB (DoucheBag) will very much enjoy having his name come up in police and court documents, whenever anybody thinking of hiring him spends a minute on the Googlz. Just use the system – cops and courts – and he'll be totally and most deservedly fucked.

Antispandex July 31, 2012 at 6:32 pm

The Chiang Kai-shek is in the male. And Liz Warren has a bagina, so…commie.

LetUsBray July 31, 2012 at 6:34 pm

Thank you! That's all I was asking for.

Or, where you moved the comment to, anyway.

Blueb4sinrise July 31, 2012 at 6:39 pm

Sorry. I'll figure out this reply stuff eventually.

neiltheblaze July 31, 2012 at 6:40 pm

Luke Russert was given a job to burnish the image of his hack of a father.

sullivanst July 31, 2012 at 6:43 pm

What Luke Russert means is he can't see the point of anything because he's a big ol' stoopid-head.

CheeseBro69 July 31, 2012 at 6:57 pm

Luke Russert:
A Living and Breathing Kick In The Nuts/Vagina to anyone who has ever worked an honest day in their life

Toomush_Infer July 31, 2012 at 6:58 pm

So, is Florida the market for this garbage?- because I know this kind of shit mostly works in the south….also, Luke Russert?- one too many Russerts…..ok, back to the Cuba Libre…

Toomush_Infer July 31, 2012 at 7:00 pm

Also, Elizabeth Warren eating lo mein….?, NSFW…..

johnnyzhivago July 31, 2012 at 7:01 pm

The Queen, a Rabbi and a Pollack walk into a bar with Mitt Romney.

Please add the punchline.

bobbert July 31, 2012 at 7:30 pm

And they all punch Rmoney in the nuts.

rocktonsam July 31, 2012 at 10:10 pm

"whos got this round?'

Biel_ze_Bubba August 1, 2012 at 9:50 am

The Queen, the Rabbi and the Polack walk out.

Baconzgood July 31, 2012 at 7:05 pm

I expected some blow back, because "even though no one should do a prank like this" and I don't condone this kind of stuff in the workplace and have stated as much. He still thinks that it is Baconz that his anger should be focused on. C'mon I've been on Wonkette for 2 years….. would sandbagging and risking a pretty good job sound like somthing i'd do? He just blames me because someone pulled a prank on him. And that's my story.

vasty_derp August 1, 2012 at 2:04 am

Was he the one who made outrageously racisty remarks to a client? I'da been plenty worried if he hadn't been fired.

So sorry about the bike- what a pain in the ass.

didgen August 1, 2012 at 2:09 am

Hey I'll provide you with an ironclad alibi for the time of the alleged prank. Kick his ass, in a strictly legal way for the bike. Then get even.

fishwharf July 31, 2012 at 7:32 pm

Elizabeth Warren is perhaps the only person running for office who gives me hope that we are not completely screwed.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 1, 2012 at 9:53 am

That's why the GOPtards are on the attack. She's everything Obama is, without the melanin — and that scares the shit out of them.

mrblifil July 31, 2012 at 7:44 pm

Tim obviously should not have spared the lightning rod.

Guppy July 31, 2012 at 7:56 pm

China's 9% infrastructure spending builds cities that nobody actually lives in.

US America's 3% infrastructure spending leaves cities that nobody actually lives in, because foreclosures and offshoring.

randcoolcatdaddy July 31, 2012 at 8:06 pm

Luke Russert is a lightning rod for nothing, really, except snarky blog posts.

sullivanst August 1, 2012 at 12:05 am

Well that, and general disgust at how utterly devoid of talent or intelligence our mainstream media hacks have become.

not that Dewey July 31, 2012 at 8:11 pm

and yes, same goes for “I like to fire people”

Dok, if you don't watch it with that centrist, both-sides-do-it bullshit, I'm gonna start calling you "Doktor Brooks" or "Doktor Halperin".

Doktor Zoom July 31, 2012 at 8:33 pm

Just as long as you refrain from calling me "Broderesque."

Both sides do it — but absolutely NOT in even remotely similar proportions.

Better?

not that Dewey July 31, 2012 at 8:58 pm

je je je

Chow Yun Flat July 31, 2012 at 8:12 pm

A person would have to be really stupid to start a newspaper in New York City in 2002. Someone like Ira Stoll for example.

TootsStansbury July 31, 2012 at 8:35 pm

Somebody picking on Elizabeth Warren? I'm gonna have to go cut a bitch?

emmelemm July 31, 2012 at 10:08 pm

{taking off earrings}

horsedreamer_1 July 31, 2012 at 9:10 pm

Pss. Luke. Luke! Luke! "Scott Norwood".

Now, go back to Buffalo & choke on Johnny Rzeznik's vomit, you waste of oxygen.

Mittens Howell, III July 31, 2012 at 9:43 pm

'Vapid Pudding' is the best description of Luke Russert I've heard over the entire course of his three and a half minute 'career'.

horsedreamer_1 July 31, 2012 at 9:49 pm

Luke Russert isn't Tim's natural son; he's the Earthly remains of Mick Shrimpton, which were adopted by the Russert's & raised as their son.

rocktonsam July 31, 2012 at 10:04 pm

its an assault on reasonable people

Self-Uploader July 31, 2012 at 10:16 pm

Who is this Luke Russert guy? I tried looking him up on the Wikipedia, but it redirected to nepotism.

MilwaukeeKent July 31, 2012 at 11:39 pm

The Right Wing is hard to please. They're disappointed that our poor aren't really poor since they don't live in mud huts, can somehow scrape together the 40 bucks to buy a DVD player (or 3 bucks to buy a used one at a rummage sale) and most even have refrigerators. Now they're upset because Warren had the audacity to point out that a) we have a high unemployment rate, and b) a crumbling infrastructure.
Slight OT. Tim "No Socks" Russert is that much of a Preppie that he doesn't wear socks? As a dyed-in-the-wool Preppie, maybe he has some special insight into Mitt Romney's Preppie sense of humor. Everyone else seems put off by it.

Negropolis August 1, 2012 at 12:07 am

I agree, it's incredibly hard to see why the Dems would want someone popular with the base to rally the troops at a fucking political convention.

This is why Russert Jr. gets payed the big bucks. Wake me up when November ends.

lulzmonger August 1, 2012 at 12:49 am

Happiness is a warm non-collapsing overpass.

ttommyunger August 1, 2012 at 8:07 am

Luke Russert and Jonah Goldberg; totally different. One has a sold-out cunt for a parent who is still alive.

Biel_ze_Bubba August 1, 2012 at 9:22 am

"Mr. Stoll apparently hopes to be remembered as the Emperor Qin Shi Huang of blogging, and has assembled an impressive army of straw men to accompany him to the afterlife."

So full of win.

Doktor Zoom August 1, 2012 at 6:08 pm

Why thank you!

elgin_pelican August 1, 2012 at 9:29 am

Classic rethug technique. Hammer someone, then denounce them as "controversial." I seem to remember a story about an kid killing his parents, then asking for mercy on the basis of his orphanhood………

Allmighty_Manos August 1, 2012 at 9:37 am

Yeah why would you want someone speaking at your convention members of your party are actually excited about? Don't make no sense. The path to victory is paved with boredom and disillusionment.

Fraudulently_Joe August 1, 2012 at 9:36 pm

I meant to mention this earlier, but an anagram of Ira Stoll is I A TROLLS.

Which is a nice tl;dr of that New York Sun piece.

DahBoner August 2, 2012 at 9:17 am

If the Lightening don't get ya, the Thunder will…

HistoriCat August 1, 2012 at 11:56 am

They haven't eliminated you yet? Sheesh – educating students about the Constitution is just a gateway to letting them think that they matter!

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