Some disturbing news for “traditional families” and their terribly insecure boy-girl marriages, from the Washington Blade: “The Democratic Party platform drafting committee approved on Sunday language endorsing same-sex marriage in addition to other pro-LGBT positions as part of the Democratic Party platform, according to two sources familiar with the drafting process.” Other confirmers have confirmed with the confirmy people. Are you reading this, Straight America? The Democratic Party has literally endorsed a mandate to end your straight marriage and force you to marry a gay person, like Elton John or the other one, within the next calendar year.
The Blade confirmed the news with Barney Frank, who knows everything that’s happening in the world thanks to his magical gay powers. The platform will not simply endorse gay marriage. That would be homophobic, if it ended there. But also rejects DOMA and supports ENDA, the evil twin acronyms who now make up the National Gay Agenda.
Retiring gay Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), who sits on the committee, told the Washington Blade on Monday that the 15-member panel unanimously backed the inclusion of a marriage equality plank after a national hearing over the weekend in Minneapolis, in which several witnesses testified in favor of such language.
“I was part of a unanimous decision to include it,” Frank said. “There was a unanimous decision in the drafting committee to include it in the platform, which I supported, but everybody was for it.”
Frank emphasized that support for marriage equality is a position that has been established for the Democratic Party, from the president, who endorsed marriage equality in May, to House Democratic lawmakers who voted to reject an amendment reaffirming the Defense of Marriage Act earlier this month.
A Democratic National Committee staffer, who is familiar with the process and spoke on condition of anonymity, said the language in the platform approved on Sunday not only backs marriage equality, but also rejects DOMA and has positive language with regard to the Employment Non-Discrimination Act. The exact wording of the language wasn’t immediately available.
Don’t bother spending too much time on wording; “we endorse the opposite of whatever Rick Santorum thinks about gays” should be fine.




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Hey Lizzie! Your face or mine?
Note to self: clean vidcam lens
The Scissor Sisters?
.. it's the face to be.
This may annul my marriage, but will it invalidate my vasectomy?
I think it makes all straight male penises invert. You're a lesbian! And *you're* a lesbian! EVERYBODY'S a lesbian!
If I have to get gay married, can I at least be paired up with someone who is fabulous ?
This is good news for Lindsey Graham.
HAM BISCUITS! (That's what he wants at the reception for his wedding to Raoul the poolboy: ham biscuit hors d'oeuvres.)
I personally undermined several straight marriages this weekend.
Nobody ever invites *me* to the good parties. *sulk*
Pics or GTFO.
If I'm married to my job, is that straight enough for subversion?
I'm so proud of you!
Is that what happened? And here I thought it was my fault (it's always my fault).
I don't want to get gay married until after I've had my mandatory abortion!
If you get a gay abortion, you get Green Stamps!
But will I finally have enough for that four-slice toaster?
I thought that was the standard engagement gift…
Maybe you can combine them. Have a fetus barbeque at the reception.
Baby back ribs…mmmmmmmmmmmmm…
Step right up! Get yours here. Fresh off the grill. Smokin' hot.
I'm just hoping my forced gay-marriage isn't to Marcus Bachmann.
Geez, guys, you get to pick, OK? The leftover doods that nobody wanted have to do it through a Government Exchange program, kinda like the insurance thingy.
Okay, If I can pick and am forced to gay marry I want richest, oldest gay man around. Okay???
You'll have to get up really *early.*
This should make the right-wingers foam at the mouth at their convention. I can only imagine the shit they will be saying about the Dems and the Pres.
uh, that's not foam on their mouths……
No, it's froth.
Yes, there will be Santorum at the 'Tard Convention, even if Rick isn't invited.
Oh, it's going to be *so very different* from what they've said before.
So it will be gay marriage vs polygamy in 2012?
What about gay polygamy?
I'll be Madeline Kahn!
That would be polygaymy. Aka, a fabulous party!
The GOPers will fume about this at the local Glory Hole.
It's hard to fume with a mouthful.
I foresee a rash of nashin' injuries.
That is downright cruel. Funny. But cruel.
No teeth grinding!
Which way does Ann Coulter go?
You know, like when you plug one end of an extension cord into its own rear end.
Man, this is getting bad. At first glance I thought your post said "…into your own rear end."
I don't know about you, but that was happening to me A LOT during Dubya's second term, and I couldn't decide if it was my eyes that needed checking or my brain.
You plugged extension cords into your butt? A lot?
And why was that an eye problem?
I believe she is equipped to go fuck herself.
And since nobody *else* is volunteering …
To Hell, please?
Where do you think she got that freakishly long neck and that grotesque, bobbing, adam's apple? It's the result of centuries of deep-throating Satan's scaly pecker.
Oh, girl! I'm'a have to RT that. I'll just say "tessiee @wonkette," OK?
I don't know what RT is, but OK.
ALL OF THEM, KATIE.
She's a dude.
OK, but no way I'm marrying Elton John!
If I have to gay marry, can it be to a lipstick lesbian?
Duh, he's *already* married — and he ain't no Mormon.
See, the upside to Sir Elton is that when pass, he will take an old song out of this book and change the words to fit your particular life.
Though, Zhivago is going to be hard to rhyme.
Meh, he'll just thieve Maurice Jarre's "Lara's Theme."
"Zhivago is going to be hard to rhyme"
"Bad, bad johnny zhivago,
Baddest man west of Chicago"
Not bad.
You just became (kinda) famous on Twitter.
He would get pissed off, when he had to cough
Because it irritated his lumbago.
Me neither. That guy performed at Rush Limbaugh's wedding, so his gay marriage credentials are suspended indefinitely.
Woo hoo Joe Biden, see what you started? I love you for this you crazy old hairplugging loud mouth – and would love to gay marry you, hoohah not withstanding. Do it again! Do women next.
Are you coming to the Drinky thing in Atlanta?
Yes! I cannot WAIT!
The Democrats will do just about anything to appear fabulous.
15 members, eh? Now that's what I call plank inclusion.
So I'm going to "have" to marry some buff, well groomed, successful, fun loving man who can cook Coq au Vin while making me a margarita? the horror!
It sounds like you already have Stockholm Syndrome!
You *have* one? If you don't want 'im, send 'im over. I could use a relief in the kitchen.
"relief in the kitchen"
That should have a 70's soundtrack. Waa waa waa chicka boom.
Waa waa CHICKEN boom boom.
The only problem with that is the dry rub.
I definitely like the CHICKEN better.
I originally read the above as "bend 'im over".
That could work too. Why not?
Dibs on Nathan Filion!
Bastard!
Meh, he's letting himself go. Dibs on Darren Criss!
Can I borrow a cup of your gay husband?
Couple nights with me, he'll be firmed right up
I feel like he'd be really mean in bed. Lots of sarcastic comments and stuff.
Don't you mean the Democrat platform?
Unless you're watching FOX, in which case it's demoRAT platform.
That's "demon-rat".
How quickly they forget, eh? I remember the flash-subliminal ads with "DEMON RAT" on them.
I used to tell my wife I would leave her if she got a sex change operation. But now I know I love her too much to live without her. Nice try Demoncrats, but after Obamacare pays for the Operation, we'll still be married.
Aw, that's sweet!
I had two friends who both had the change. They broke up. So sad.
wingnut denunciations in 3-2-1…
Well, if I have to gay marry, I want to marry Karl Rove so I can be a complete bitch, make his life miserable and not put out no matter how much he begs.
Geez. OK.
Even if his forehead miraculously stopped sweating?
That's the dicktionary definition of "taking one for the team." I applaud your bravery.
you can have an affair with Limbo just to really break his heart.". am I not enough of a megalomaniac for you baby?"
I guess this is a big fucking deal, eh?
Oh shit! Hetero marriages are all doomed, now! Gawd is gonna kill us all with Fire just like Sodom and Gomorrah (that was a song on the first Village People album, "Sodom and Gomorrah, Sodom and Gomorrah, cities full of hatred and lust. . . Because of all their lust the Lord decided destruction, was a must) all because we're gonna give fuck licenses for scissoring and ass-fucking.
I'm all but sure that the hetero-marriage part is the punishment.
Scissoring and ass-fucking is good karma for avoiding that all together.
Sometimes I just wanna quote you to everybody, you know? I just hope to gawd you don't have a Twitter account.
I gotta tell ya, most gay people have a very diverse sex life, and none of the lesbians I talked to had a clue about scissoring (although they're all grateful to Sarah Silverman for something new to try), and not all gay male sex is ass-fucking. Believe it or don't.
Now you know I oversimplify and perpetuate ignorant stereotypes only out of love, and with all respect, too.
I know, Prommie. It's why I love you. It's also why I'm a borderline aspie (or is that asshole? I forget) sometimes.
Yes?
That didn't exist when I was of an age to be diagnosed. I'm just someone who can't read social cues at all and inadvertantly offends people all the time. But I don't stand too close, and I have learned to modulate my volume.
Scissoring only exists in straight guy porn.
I swear, none of the wimminz here seem to have heard of it. We're talkin' some OLD dykes who have been sexin' on the wimminz for 50 years and more.
Nothing against lesbians, but I'm pretty sure I don't want *any* of my parts scissored.
Gay sex is assumed to be those activities that either horrify or inspire straight men, thus, it's buttsex for the gentlemen and scissoring for the ladies.
I don't get why straight men get so hot at the idea of ladies sexin' each other and so horrified at the idea of dudes sexin' each other. If they're hot, they're hot, what does gender have to do with it?
weiners. Do Not Like weiners.
Monodirectional orifice, also too.
'South Park' and 'Liquid Sky' are to blame for the scissoring myth, I think.
If I have to get gay-married, I want gender reassignment, and then a marriage to Rachel Maddow. Or Gillian Anderson. Or Jodie Foster. Or Portia DiRossi, if she divorces Ellen (nothing against Ellen, but Portia…!)
Wait, Gillian Anderson is …..? So, Mulder never got a peek at her "X-File?"
She's said that she likes both oysters and snails; so Mulder still had a shot.
Can I get Daniel Craig? I mean, I'm straight, but if I had to fuck a guy, I'd fuck him. Clooney too.
What are you, the Queen of England?
I could be….
I'd have to go with that Depp fella, if there was a gun to my head, of course, only with the gun to my head. Oh I am a fancy lad with my scarves and my purse and my fancy cocktails and tapas and such, but when it comes to penis, Do Not Want. Not that there is anything wrong with that, of course.
OH NOW I am getting a gun. THAT would be a thing to see, you and Johnny Depp all tangled up in your scarves and such.
This is a true story, I was in the grocery store one day in a turtleneck, all in black and a big long silk scarf tied in a big knot like in France and wearing my purse, and a kid comes up to me, a young kid like maybe 8 or 10, and he looks up and asks me "Are you some kind of movie director or something?" Lord, I can at least pass for someone with style to a 9 year old.
Don't you be getting no gun, we can work something out. I guess this is another application of the "threesome rule." You have to talk Depp into it, though.
The girl gets to pick the threesome and this might work out, except you sound like you dress like my Gramma did.
Oh try a penis. They're small.
Plus, deliciously saucy.
Oh lord I feel like I just cheated on somebody, I laughed ever so hard at that.
Its OK, I'm not threatened, I think he might be gay.
"if I had to fuck a guy, I'd fuck him. Clooney too."
One of the few funny scenes on "Two and a half men":
Alan: How do I know I'm not gay and just can't admit it to myself?
Gay guy: Well, are you attracted to any men?
Alan [thinks]: Maybe George Clooney?
Gay guy [exasperated]: Oh, George Clooney doesn't count!
Alan: Why not?
Gay guy: He just doesn't!
I'm sure the Teabilly Fucksticks will have some delightfully wingnuttian pronouncements on this! Like you'll have to defend your straight marriage in front of a "death to marriage" panel made up of Rachel Maddow and Anderson Cooper. 'Cause you know. They have Teh Gey!!!
If they knew how little gay people *cared* about their stoopid fucking marriages.
See, now this is the kind of thing that proves teh ghey are not so different from straights.
"Retiring gay Rep. Barney Frank"
How do you "retire" from being gay? Or do they mean "retiring" as in reticent, shy, reserved, introverted? No, I don't think so, not Barney.
Came here to day the same thing…
Retiring Rep. Barny Frank (D-Gay)
But then won't we have to get straight divorced, get gay married, get gay divorced, abduct our children and move to S. America?
That ought to kick-start the economy!
I wouldn't throw Colbert out of bed, if FEMA was gonna shoot me about it.
You have great taste, dood. Stephen would be welcome to play "Find the Bed Mice" with me ANY time.
Is he a cat?
A real cool kitty.
jesus, just don't want to think about it
Lookatim, all blushing and squirming! Dude, I'm SO tempted to turn George Takei loose on you!
Oh MY!!!
There's a joke in there somewhere about asking Mr. Sulu for Warp 9, me thinks.
This is The New Generation. Captain's log, "Engaged".
No, colbert is just so angular and skinny, he'd bruise you with the knees and elbows, I would think.
Methinks our dear little Prommie needs a round bouncy girl! You get special dispensation. Exempt from teh Forced Ghey Marriage.
I like 'em short, myself, but I'd probably make out with Colbert. I mean, if I were being all straight and shit.
Lordy, I feel like Oprah today.
You get a gay! You get a gay! EVERYBODY GETS A GAY!
How'd you like to go home in a new gay?
Woo.
Would it be sufficient if we avoided the suburbs and only made it to town?
Passing ENDA and repealing DOMA was part of the DNC platform in 2008, no? The party platform doesn't seem to mean all that much to certain party members (*glowers at Ben Nelson, et al.*)
Still, better to have it than not.
I support the Defense Of Anus Act!!1!!!!11!
This is the Wonketz. There IS NO defense of anus. BUTTSECHS LIVES!
(Twirling around and waving at own ass with a tennis racket)
You fucking KILL me, Chet. And I mean that in the best way.
..perhaps some sort of annexation of the anus is called for 'specially since the Poles give it no respect.
So if initially we had Bill Clinton who was the first "black" President who's a.) actually white and b.) kinda ill-poised to defend marriage;
and now Obama as the first pro-gay (-marriage-rights) President who's a.) actually straight and b.) has well-demonstrated the idylls of a strong marriage:
Aren't we just another election cycle or three away from our first Gay or Lesbian etc. President, and by extension, pro-gay-marriage embodying as such? This could be within my lifetime. Unless a straight woman gets to it first. I wonder. The possibilities thrill me to consider.
Maddow/Frank 2016!
That's a ticket I would punch. (with votes)
If I have this correct, the first actual gay president will be male and will be widely known as the First Female President, so we then get a woman in 20 years or so, too, also.
"another election cycle or three" indicating, given enough time within my lifetime remaining, and with regard to how progress in perception has manifested itself — let alone the mistakes committed with impunity, I don't mean *those* election choices — I have a lot to hope for on behalf of women as well as those who are of different sexual orientation than me.
Oh and the rest was just a little play on a pattern. An observation more than a quick-cooked conclusion.
But what about Buchanan?
On the other hand, considering how he was one of the worst Presidents this country has had I can see why the gays aren't quick to claim him.
Yes, indeedy, and it makes me VERY happy. I never thought I'd live long enough to see this, I thought it would be at least another hundred years. It could happen, even in my lifetime, Mumblety. I could live to see a Vagina-American or Faggot-American take the White House!
I don't see any reason why not. Though the White House re-decorating bill might be a little steep, especially if the First Gay Prez follows a Repub into office.
Oh, LORD, no pastels!
Pastels are so over. Faux-finishing the columns on the front portico, however…
Meh, if Nancy Reagan could spend 900K on china, and it was even ugly…
Not too far away from the first gay President who uses the SS guys to abduct the First Child (FCOTUS) from his/her former wife/husband.
BOYCOTT ALL MARRIAGES! CHICK FIL-As for EVERYONE!
ASS FILL-as
2020 Presidential Address: "Much to our astonishment, the Vice President and I are very much in love."
Does that mean buttsecks is finally legal?
Now we just gotta get skullfucking on the books
Library head is the best, cuz you gotta be quiet when you really want to scream (or slurp dramatically, depending on where you are in the skullfucking equation).
YAY! Fuckin' A, man. I don't give a shit what anybody says, this is fucking great.
Because you know what, fucking VIETNAM that we almost bombed right off the fucking map fifty years ago is on the point of legally permitting gay marriage. We should at least try to keep up with those poor Third-World countries we so despise, man.
Seems like an alarming segment of our society takes more to the kind of fundamentalist totalitarian theocracy model you see in, say, Saudi Arabia and The Taliban, than to any of the more "civilized" societies in the world, like Viertnam.
I'm amazed that someone like Hun Sen in Kampuchea is busy exhorting his people to accord equal respect to gay people and publicly discussing his openly lesbian daughter, and that VietNam's current leadership, all elderly, sees recognition of gay marriage as part of the pledge of equality they made so long ago.
WTF is wrong with this country?
That is fucking awesome and crazy. Thank you for mentioning it.
You're welcome. They're on the verge of doing it. This would make them the first country in Asia to legalize. I'm sure Thailand and Singapore will follow, and who knows, in 20 years, the rest of Asia.
It's actually amazing to me that Vietnam would do it before China. I mean, it just shows how little I know about Vietnam, really. There's no worldly reason why China hasn't bothered to become gay-friendly, but for some reason, they resist.
Interesting, innit? I thought Singapore would be first, or maybe even the Philippines or Guam, but it's VietNam.
Just from talking to Chinese friends, I think many Chinese feel that homosexuality is a Western capitalist corruption that a good Chinese would never permit or admit to. (And yet traditional opera is full of stories of girls dressing up as boys and fighting in wars, and men who took male lovers.)
At last, someone to decorate this pit of blandness I call home.
Well, my wife will be upset, but my gay lover should be stocked!
When she has her *own* gay lover, she won't complain so much.
I keep bringing other women over for us, but she insist that I'm "selfish."
And after all your hard work, too!
With condoms?
"my gay lover should be stocked"
On the shelves of your local supermarket?
gives a new meaning to "cleanup on Aisle 7".
Guess this means there's going to be a lot of happy closeted Republicans here soon.
Not really – they don't want their boy-toys getting any ideas about "commitment".
I hear that House leader Boehner has dibs on Tom Delay, and how the tears will flow at that wedding!!
Someone should just explain to the Conservatives that all of this is being done just to mess with the Muslims. They will support it then.
Hey, maybe we can slip habeus corpus in there, too!
Habeas corpus? That's so 1215.
Commie pinko.
I think "having the body" is the point of the Democratic position.
You can't have the body and eat it too!
Some cracker from the catholic church would beg to disagree.
I see what you did there.
Michelle will probably sneak in a requirement that any corpus must pass some fitness tests…
In other news, the Republican National Committee announced today that its platform will include a denunciation of Plessy v. Ferguson.
That's just one of the newer things. It will also include a renunciation of the laws of gravity and thermodynamics.
And the sun revolves around the flat earth, also too, you betcha.
When it's dark in Alaska 24/7 it means the sun went under the plate?Hey, if it's what Jesus wants …
I gotta say that the rainbow halo takes years off of Obama's apparent age.
Isn't it the same halo Joe Paterno had, that they painted over on the mural in downtown State College? Or was that one blood-red rather than rainbow?
Yay Gay!
Thank you!~ (seizes MissTaken, dances around)
Hey, I know, tell them everybody has to get gay married in an islamic ceremony. I can see the blood-vessels bursting already.
You might be a very cruel person. I like that in a person.
I am sorry, straight or gay, second marriage is the victory of hope over reason.
No kidding. Same-sex marriage merely extends the right to make each other miserable that straight people enjoy so much.
I've never understood Republitards' position on gay marriage. No, we don't want gay people to make lifelong commitments to one another, we would rather they (a) have lots of illicit gay sex without the limitations of a monogamous marriage, or (b) marry their beards and live lives that are totally a lie. Look at Michele Bachmann – she not only opposes gay marriage, but she also practices it by being married to Marcus.
If gays can marry, it reduces the number of people desperate for anxious anonymous sex in airport bathrooms. Really, it's all about their self interest.
Gay marriages for all, miniature American flags for others.
On behalf of the great state of K-Y, I am proud to cast our entire slate of delegates for Ben Dover.
A gay in every pot?
"Unanimous" sounds a bit dirty when it's Barney Frank saying it.
And I am unanimous in that.
Wingnut response in a nutshell: "They can have my traditional marriage when they pry it from my cold, dead, traditional marriage."
Nice.
Unfortunately, I think this might be better new for Mrs. Docterry than for me.
I am 100% in favor of this so long as this lesbian wife of mine has some moniez. I can learn new skills, but I'll need incentive … the same kind traditional wives have always been accused of needing (e.g. a paid Visa card and dinner reservations).
I want to legalize polyamory, next, if for no reason other than taking advantage of economies of scale.
Oh, oh, oh, I want Rachel Maddow. No, wait, if we married, then that wouldn't be a gay marriage, because only one of us is gay, and she's a girl and…shit, now I'm really confused.
This gay stuff is just another fad.
I predict that 100 years from now, kids will just roll their eyes when you mention Assfucking…
They already do. Wut, you didn't know that? Apparently, it's all the rage (assfucking) because you don't have to worry about pragnutz and how is babby fromed.
And when DOMA's finally repealed, I'm betting it takes about four years before the Republicans start taking credit for it.
This post reminds of traditional Cuban rumba (the real thing, not ballroom "rhumba"): When a man and woman dance together, they playfully perform the "vacunao." As they dance, the woman is on guard for a quick gesture from the man toward her playground area. If she blocks the gesture while dancing she "wins"; if he catches her off-guard, he "wins." So everybody do the Gay Cuban Rumba!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdgURtb83VM
As long as this leads to interviews with Newt Gingrich about the sanctity of marriage.
I don't know whom to call dibs on, because alla my lesbian ladycrushes are already married. Anna Paquin's bi, right? Dibs on her.
"Are you reading this, Straight America? The Democratic Party has literally endorsed a mandate to end your straight marriage and force you to marry a gay person"
HELL YEAH!!
Dibs on Stephen Fry!!
What?
Stephen Fry is a gay person; he said so himself.
“The Democratic Party platform drafting committee approved on Sunday language endorsing same-sex marriage in addition to other pro-LGBT positions as part of the Democratic Party platform, according to two sources familiar with the drafting process.”
Well, look who found their spine!
I don't think I'd marry Elton John, but I'd be happy to fuck Joseph Gordon Levitt with a strap-on. Does that count?
If these folk in both Parties could just get their attention above the waist for a little while, I would be one happy camper. I long for the good old days when dicks and pussies were confined to bedroom, motels, haylofts and the back seats of cars.
See? Further proof that Wonketteers are a sexy bunch.
Since I'm a straight man myself, could they gay marry me to a lesbian? We'll both be miserable, but it'll be easier to explain to the family.
Onion quote: "First the military, now marriage. Why do gays want to participate in our worst institutions?"
But why is Peter North a Celebrity?
You're so cute when you're squirming. OK, just for you, no weiners.
Oh, many many virtual upfists.
I don't have a problem with admitting it. You?
It would have to be *very* tastefully managed. Might have to replant the entire front area with a xeriscape garden, you know, to go with those no-longer-quite-so-white columns.
One is OK, but two is a horror movie!!
I don't know. Why don't you try asking the question mark?
Like a paler version of the elevator scene in The Shining?
Best short explanation ever! Precisely this.
I haven't had a problem with you before that I can remember. If something I said or did upset you and you want to discuss it, fine. If I'm being oversensitive because real life intrudes that way sometimes, let me know. OK? Because I'm not here to big-dick anyone else to death. I just wanna get along with everybody and have a good time. Thanks.
Doesn't sound too fun, does it? How about frogging?
Re-Tweet. Sorry. I'm going back and forth between tabs and keep forgetting which universe I'm in.
Yes, I just assumed that Vietnam, which was more or less culturally controlled by the Chinese for a long-ass time, would have had the same ideas about “Western corruption”. I think it might be tough in heavily Catholic countries, but I always assumed Thailand would get there first – which proves exactly how little I know about Thailand, as well.
I'm not sure I would consider VietNam "culturally controlled" by the Chinese, although it is certainly true that VietNam was the last of the countries with Chinese cultural influence to cease administering the "eight-legged essay." While the upper classes and the Northern peoples certainly experienced a great deal of Chinese influence, VietNam has a rich indigenous culture which accorded women a great deal more status and power than traditional Chinese culture. But YMMV, and I'm always happy to have my ignorance leavened.
one man's "big dick anyone else to death" is another man's euthanasia.
Um … which one? Ladies shove something the size of a watermelon through theirs.
The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled…
(Hugs prommie) Me too, sweetie. I just stay away from people IRL and smile a lot. But I don't dress *near* as cool as YOU.
Booj, I'm not sure being big-dicked to death is a euthanasish way to go. I'm thinking it could be painful. I always envisaged euthanasia as, you know, lilies on a white bed, weeping women, candles. Dignified, I guess.
Not anal stretching accompanied by loud screams.
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