QUIET ROOMS  2:20 pm July 24, 2012

Arizona Sen. Jon Kyl: America Has No Class

by Kris E. Benson

larry bird, we guessWhy is our socialist Kenyan Marxist Muslim president being so NEGATIVE, hmm? The richest 1% of Americans are doing great! Corporate profits are at an all time high! It should be champagne and caviar for EVERYONE but NO, Obama is insisting on talking about something called the “Middle Class.” Of course, as Senator Jon Kyl (R-Arizona) points out, the existence of such a class is a total fiction because of rising income inequality because there is no such thing as “middle class values.” Even if there were (but there aren’t!), you shouldn’t run around DISCUSSING them, in PUBLIC, when you are the President, because it is un-American! And when you do it, you pit the middle class against people like Michael Jordan, which is bad for everyone. Jon Kyl kindly explained this to his colleagues and to the American people during a speech he made Monday on the Senate floor.

“We have a president who talks incessantly about class, particularly the middle class,” Kyl said.

“I just think the whole discussion of class is wrong. It’s not what we do here in America,” said Kyl, the Senate minority whip. He added, “I don’t think there’s anything called ‘middle class values’ that are different from the values of other people in this country. Tell me what’s different about the values of someone who the president identifies as middle class?”…

When Michael Jordan came, after he established how great he would be, he was given an enormous, almost unheard of salary. Did the other players say, ‘That’s not fair?’ No, actually all the other players got big salary increases, too,” Kyl said. “The whole franchise did well, the people selling popcorn, the people parking the cars … made more money than they ever would have had Michael Jordan never came to the team.”

Oh yeah, the NBA cheerleaders who still earn between $50 and $135 per game and the minimum wage workers who sell popcorn at the Chicago Stadium and the janitors at the Chicago Stadium and the little kids in China who make the Nike shoes that Michael Jordan eventually got the opportunity to act as a highly paid spokesperson for — well, even though their wages didn’t exactly go UP because of Michael Jordan’s salary, they weren’t jealous! Not one bit. So let’s all just calm down about this “class” business, and go back to worshipping our economic and social betters as though they are the Michael Jordans of the economy, which they totally are.

[Huffington Post]

 

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{ 153 comments }

Maman July 24, 2012 at 2:22 pm

And klassless Jon Kyl would know

Baconzgood July 24, 2012 at 2:23 pm

There is no middle class to one who works with people earning at least 250K.

Goonemeritus July 24, 2012 at 2:24 pm

Can’t we just get back to pitting the almost poor against the really poor?

danielwalldammit July 24, 2012 at 3:05 pm

Amen!

anniegetyerfun July 24, 2012 at 3:33 pm

Brilliantly put.

Swampgas_Man July 24, 2012 at 4:53 pm

The "Have Nots" against the "Have Less", if you will.

Butch_Wagstaff July 24, 2012 at 5:04 pm

Whattaya mean "get back to"? Hm?

Whale Chowder July 24, 2012 at 7:53 pm

Um, I believe that's pretty much what Kyl is after.

Estproph July 24, 2012 at 2:24 pm

He looks familiar. I've got it! Wasn't he the doctor in Airplane?

Baconzgood July 24, 2012 at 2:27 pm

Surely you can't be serious.

nounverb911 July 24, 2012 at 2:28 pm

And don't call me Shirley.

MLHencken July 24, 2012 at 2:28 pm

Just remember, we're all counting on you.

Thurman Munster IV July 24, 2012 at 3:10 pm

It looks like I took the wrong week to give up sniffing glue.

MosesInvests July 24, 2012 at 4:42 pm

Do you like movies about gladiators?

Ducksworthy July 24, 2012 at 2:24 pm

Money is not only speech. It is also the only value.

Maman July 24, 2012 at 2:24 pm

Somebody needs to read Pygmalion. Or at least watch My Fair Lady if he wants to know about different classes and values. ooops.. that is the arts and would turn him the gayz no doubt.

MLHencken July 24, 2012 at 2:29 pm

"How deliciously low!"

Maman July 24, 2012 at 2:37 pm

"How positively dirty"

va_real July 24, 2012 at 3:04 pm

Oim a goog girl oi am- oi washed me face an' me 'ands before oi come 'ere, oi did…

Jus_Wonderin July 24, 2012 at 3:08 pm

Maman, don't give him any ideas. He'll begin thinking that anyone can mimic a rude, blowhard and over the course of the feature learn to stay…and bring him his slippers.

Dudleydidwrong July 24, 2012 at 9:14 pm

Rex Harrison for senator from Arizona–as if he'd stoop that low. (I know, I know, he's slightly dead, but he still would be better than Kinky kocksucker Killer Kyl.

nounverb911 July 24, 2012 at 2:24 pm

We have two classes: Us vs Them.

sbj1964 July 24, 2012 at 2:25 pm

The Middle class,if the GOP had it they're way you would only be able to view their remains at a Natural History Museum.

An_Outhouse July 24, 2012 at 2:39 pm

museum? the GOP?

imissopus July 24, 2012 at 2:41 pm

Natural History? Sounds science-y.

Geminisunmars July 24, 2012 at 3:01 pm

No room, what with the saddle-bearing dinosaurs.

kissawookiee July 24, 2012 at 2:25 pm

Is this the VIP entrance? Because we're VIP.

Generation[redacted] July 24, 2012 at 2:39 pm

This is what happens when the nails ladies are allowed to vote.

nounverb911 July 24, 2012 at 2:26 pm

Is that why the poor Mariner fans still boo A-Rod incessantly?

BaldarTFlagass July 24, 2012 at 2:31 pm

And Ohioans love Lebron James soooooo much!

anniegetyerfun July 24, 2012 at 2:37 pm

Well, now we've got Ichiro to loathe.

nounverb911 July 24, 2012 at 2:40 pm

Yankees got him wholesale, M's are still paying half his salary.

weejee July 24, 2012 at 2:40 pm

They certainly did last night, but cheered Ichiro & Ibanez.

Nostrildamus July 24, 2012 at 3:34 pm

As a Mariners fan, hosting the Yankees is like throwing a party for the jock who stole your girl – about ten million times. No bitters about Ichiro, though. He was the most exciting player on the field for 10 years and deserves a chance to play for a winner for once.

AncienReggie July 24, 2012 at 5:27 pm

I hate to repeat myself, but this: Fuck the Yankees.

Joshua Norton July 24, 2012 at 2:26 pm

It’s not what we do here in America

Apparently, they think overdosing on manners can make up for their deficit in the morals department.

mrpuma2u July 24, 2012 at 2:33 pm

Yes indeed, they are rapicious, elitist predators exploiting the working class, but they are so darn nice about it!

Billmatic July 24, 2012 at 2:27 pm

I'm sure he really wanted to say Larry Bird.

Estproph July 24, 2012 at 2:28 pm

This isn't intended to be a factual statement.

va_real July 24, 2012 at 2:41 pm

Facts are known to have a liberal bias.

hagajim July 24, 2012 at 2:28 pm

…"the whole discussion of class is wrong. It’s not what we do here in America."

Yeah we don't talk about 'em, we just do everything in our power to screw them over seven ways to Sunday, while spending all of our public talking time trying to scare the shit out of everyone.

Baconzgood July 24, 2012 at 2:29 pm

You know that Michael Jordan is an ass hole? Honestly, I bought some Hanes boxer-briefs and they get all bunchy in the ass.

BaldarTFlagass July 24, 2012 at 2:39 pm

What about bacon neck T-shirts? It seems wildly appropriate, at least for you.

coolhandnuke July 24, 2012 at 2:30 pm

Kyl is blissfully unaware of the union Michael Jordan was a member of for his entire career. A union that went on strike multiple times so rich, white old fucking men would negotiate fairly and show some transparency in their financial books and spread the wealth more fairly.

Veritas78 July 24, 2012 at 7:48 pm

He doesn't mean that Michael Jordan. He means the wealthy basketball player with all the endorsements, the famous one.

coolhandnuke July 24, 2012 at 10:49 pm

Good snag. He's referring to Michael Jordan the failed AAA baseball player.

prommie July 24, 2012 at 2:30 pm

Those people, they keep going on and on about class, its simply dreadful. They really just don't understand they way things work. They just don't come from the right background, though, what can you expect coming from such poor stock. And still they wonder why we wouldn't dream of letting them in our club.

GHW Bush had a verbal tic that was so obvious, he would say "this guy over here," exactly as if he were referring to an atrocious social climber he had blackballed at the country club. This guy over here, this Saddam, . . .

danielwalldammit July 24, 2012 at 2:36 pm

…who was once part of the club, but not anymore.

James Michael Curley July 24, 2012 at 3:02 pm

Don't forget John McCain's "That one!."

Goonemeritus July 24, 2012 at 2:30 pm

The difference between sports teams and the US Government is that sports teams are run on SOCALIST principles. Look at the NFL, most revenues are put into a pool and split between winning and losing teams. What is this Kyl guy a Trotskyite?

FNMA July 24, 2012 at 2:46 pm

And the NBA is way over-regulated, what with that salary cap and refs who call fouls on guys even when no blood is shed.

va_real July 24, 2012 at 3:07 pm

Head injuries! Pffft! They never did me no harm…

mrpuma2u July 24, 2012 at 2:31 pm

It goes without saying (but here I am saying it) that Sen Kyl is in a class by himself of epic douchebaggery.

An_Outhouse July 24, 2012 at 2:31 pm

My mother always said "If you ignore it, it'll go away"

(no she didn't)

Jus_Wonderin July 24, 2012 at 3:14 pm

Mine said "Don't pick at it" and, if you fell and broke all the bones in your body, "rub it". Looking back, I think she wanted us dead.

anniegetyerfun July 24, 2012 at 3:34 pm

My mom totally said this, but she was incredibly wrong.

MLHencken July 24, 2012 at 2:31 pm

Invoking Michael Jordan to attempt to give your self cover with an issue that has overtone of race?

Let me know how that works out for you.

anniegetyerfun July 24, 2012 at 2:35 pm

Ha, the race thing didn't occur to me! I just remember thinking, "Uh, outdated reference – 1991 called and they want their pop culture back."

But you are right – he used Jordan as an example specifically because of his race.

va_real July 24, 2012 at 2:43 pm

To prove to himself and his copycat followers that they cannot be racisty if they admire a blah…

Trannysurprise July 24, 2012 at 3:00 pm

And to also illustrate the fact that the only blah person's name he can come up with in a pinch is a sports star.

AncienReggie July 24, 2012 at 5:30 pm

Herman Cain libel.

SorosBot July 24, 2012 at 2:31 pm

"Tell me what’s different about the values of someone who the president identifies as middle class?"

Well for starters, most of us have no idea what the fuck Dressage is, and when we see it recognize that it's not a sport.

Generation[redacted] July 24, 2012 at 2:47 pm

I thought Dressage is what women buy at TJ Max.

va_real July 24, 2012 at 3:03 pm

No, but he loves their slogan about getting the Maxx for the minimum…

BoatOfVelociraptors July 24, 2012 at 3:39 pm

It's what women buy for their tax write offs horses.

Jus_Wonderin July 24, 2012 at 3:16 pm

And what kind of sport is it when the horse does all the work? I mean, the horse should ride the rider. That makes more sense. That would be one hell of a sport.

AncienReggie July 24, 2012 at 5:32 pm

Easy. The value of the middle class tax burden is around 32%. The upper classes pay 15% on the money their accountants are too inept to shove through the loopholes their tame legislators installed.

Whale Chowder July 24, 2012 at 7:59 pm

We also don't stash our money away in the Cayman Islands

Gratuitous World July 24, 2012 at 2:31 pm

for the record, players constantly complained about Jordan getting calls, preferential treatment, etc.

Though MJ's greatness was at least genuine, as opposed to some self-important lobbyist-turned-senator who has spent a decade being an ordinary GOP douchebag

HogeyeGrex July 24, 2012 at 2:31 pm

Jon Kyl is a weeping syphilitic chancre on the flaccid and rotting wang that is Congress.

That is all.

Thurman Munster IV July 24, 2012 at 3:11 pm

You tell it girlfriend!

ttommyunger July 25, 2012 at 8:09 am

Kudos!

sbj1964 July 24, 2012 at 2:32 pm

Mittens Claims he has a lot of Middle Class friends,and that he has even had them in his home before.And thinks that they should not have to ride in the back of a bus.Whatever that is?

FNMA July 24, 2012 at 2:47 pm

Not quite. He doesn't know any middle-class people, but he has friends who own some.

YasserArraFeck July 24, 2012 at 2:51 pm

I think he said he had friends who owned much of the Middle Class

BaldarTFlagass July 24, 2012 at 2:32 pm

Here's looking down at you, kid!

YouBetcha July 24, 2012 at 2:32 pm

I'm sure Governor Snowbilly can class it up for ya, Joe. You guys are also after all in the Party of Class too, such as.

Callyson July 24, 2012 at 2:32 pm

"I don't think there's anything called 'middle class values' that are different from the values of other people in this country. Tell me what's different about the values of someone who the president identifies as middle class?"

What's different? Well, for starters, people who identify as middle class don't believe that we should have an economic system in which profits are capitalized (i.e., a few benefit) but risks are socialized (i.e., the taxpayers cover the costs of the speculation of the economic elite.) Also, people who identify as middle class also prioritize the provision of basic social services (education, public safety, infrastructure) over tax cuts for the wealthy who are not even creating jobs in the first place. And, people who identify as middle class would like to see elected officials prioritize doing what is best for the country over the destruction of President Barack Obama…those are a few things that are "different" about middle class values, compared to those of the Republicans in Washington…

God, I fucking hate Jon Kyl.

anniegetyerfun July 24, 2012 at 2:33 pm

As usual, the Republican talking points on income inequality boil down to, "Ur just so jelly."

randcoolcatdaddy July 24, 2012 at 2:34 pm

You people have just talked about this middle class thing long enough!

Extemporanus July 24, 2012 at 2:34 pm

CLASS DISMISSED!

danielwalldammit July 24, 2012 at 2:34 pm

Quite literally!

EatsBabyDingos July 24, 2012 at 2:34 pm

Muddle class v meddle class? More like Piddle class v piddled-on class.

va_real July 24, 2012 at 2:35 pm

Can I skip the champagne & caviar & just have the money instead? Unlike these folks, I'll need to pay taxes.

anniegetyerfun July 24, 2012 at 3:36 pm

Haha, not if you get ENOUGH money, you don't!

va_real July 24, 2012 at 8:36 pm

Yes, I suppose I might find a winning lotto ticket on the ground somewhere, or be the recipient of wealth from some currently unknown source…

Gosh- so maybe I should start voting Republican, just in case?

SorosBot July 24, 2012 at 2:35 pm

But yes, he is right in that discussing class issues is not what we do in America; our media has long insisted on perpetuating the fiction that this country is a meritocracy, and that class issues may exist over in other countries but not here in America, no we just pretend class doesn't exist and ignore the poor.

Of course this asshole doesn't get that that is a very bad thing and we fucking should be discussing the long-ignored issue of class in the US.

va_real July 24, 2012 at 3:24 pm

Yes, if you equate 'class' with economic status, then we have them, sure. But class IS more easily distinguished from financial status in some (most?) other countries…

I think two ideas about class that the 1% want to preserve are that a) the 1% are just regular folks no different from us & b) that socioeconomic status is extremely fluid in this country. With income inequality & fewer investments in the public sector, these claims have less basis in reality, but the American Dream is an extremely powerful fiction.

anniegetyerfun July 24, 2012 at 3:37 pm

It's just so UNCOUTH.

danielwalldammit July 24, 2012 at 2:35 pm

Why keep supporting the middle class, when every time you hurt them, the middle class blames someone else anyway.

SoBeach July 24, 2012 at 2:35 pm

Tell me what’s different about the values of someone who the president identifies as middle class…

I'll go with "they want to make their communities and country better and stronger, while the super rich, being insulated and all, really couldn't care less about those things and resent helping to pay for them."

How's that, senator?

An_Outhouse July 24, 2012 at 2:36 pm

Um, excuse me, Senator. Mr Senator? What about this?

"Caterpillar Posts Record Profits and Then Cuts Employee Pay in Half"
http://www.topsecretwriters.com/2012/01/caterpill

I don't think Michael Jordan is typical in the real world.

Blueb4sinrise July 24, 2012 at 2:36 pm

"Upper classes are a nation's past; the middle class is its future."
-Ayn Rand

Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/aynran

AbandonHope July 24, 2012 at 2:53 pm

"Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go pick up my Social Security check. Under an assumed name, of course."
– Ayn Rand

CapeClod July 24, 2012 at 2:36 pm

"Tell me what’s different about the values of someone who the president identifies as middle class?”

They're the ones trying to figure out which kidney to sell in order to buy medicine for their kid.

Not_So_Much July 24, 2012 at 2:37 pm

This pantload knows a thing or two about no class. Please talk more, Mr. Not-intended-to-be-a-factual-statement!

MissTaken July 24, 2012 at 2:38 pm

I can only imagine the vast quantity of hemorrhoid cream needed by someone who talks out of his ass so much.

Thurman Munster IV July 24, 2012 at 3:12 pm

Is it creme colored?

Maman July 24, 2012 at 2:38 pm

Which phrasing would Sen. Kyl prefer? socio-economic group? caste? serf?

va_real July 24, 2012 at 2:45 pm

Serf's Up!

Maman July 24, 2012 at 2:55 pm

Puts a different twist on "Hang 10"

Geminisunmars July 24, 2012 at 3:12 pm

That is such a feudal argument.

gullywompr July 24, 2012 at 2:38 pm

When somebody in the 1% does well, everbody in the 1% does well, there's nothing middle class about it.

weejee July 24, 2012 at 2:38 pm

The 12th Republican Commandment:

All animals people are equal, but some animals people are more equal than others

anniegetyerfun July 24, 2012 at 2:38 pm

He added, “I don’t think there’s anything called ‘middle class values’ that are different from the values of other people in this country.

I'll bet he has some thoughts on "welfare" or "lower class values", though.

elviouslyqueer July 24, 2012 at 2:39 pm

Somewhere, a pike is being reserved for Jon Kyl's head.

imissopus July 24, 2012 at 2:40 pm

A pike made of votes!

Thurman Munster IV July 24, 2012 at 3:13 pm

A surveyor's pike!

va_real July 24, 2012 at 3:34 pm

But pikes don't have teeth? Maybe a piranha or a shark would be a better choice?

UnholyMoses July 24, 2012 at 2:39 pm

"It’s not what we do here in America"

Except for when we did at the outset, making sure only land-owning white males could vote … or that time when we (well, most of us at least) decided that treating humans as property was a bad idea … or that time when we decided that letting granny starve to death on the street was a bad idea and, thus, created things like Social Security and Medicare … or that time when we decided that poverty sucks and we should do something to fight it, setting up many of the social programs that have saved millions upon millions of Americans from untold grief and pain … and when we elected a not-white and non-rich and non-from-a-rich-family guy to the Presidency …

Other than all those times, plus the countless others during our nation's long history, he's correct.

ADDING: Sorry. All outta snark today.

anniegetyerfun July 24, 2012 at 2:44 pm

No, no, it's different when it FAVORS white, rich males. If there's a chance that someone else might get ahead, or god forbid, be able to make a normal living, then it's class warfare.

AbandonHope July 24, 2012 at 2:51 pm

Hang on, I'll go get some more snark shipped over to you. You'll have to be present to sign for it, though.

UnholyMoses July 24, 2012 at 2:56 pm

As long as it's not COD, I'll be here.

outragedcitizen July 24, 2012 at 2:40 pm

Old, rich, white, out-of-touch GOP Senator says what?

JustPixelz July 24, 2012 at 2:41 pm

Imagine there's no middle class …
It's easy if you're Kyl.
No poor beneath us
Above us an unreachable money pile
Imagine all the people … living for today

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
We'll still have greed and hunger
The Koch Brothers are The Man
Imagine all the people .. sharing the crumbs they've left.

You, you may say
I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And wake me from this nightmare.

HistoriCat July 24, 2012 at 2:55 pm

John Lennon AND Herman Cain libel!

seppdecker July 24, 2012 at 2:42 pm

How many jobs is Jordan creating with the Charlotte "7 – 59" Bobcats?

He's as good an owner as he is a gambler.

Dudleydidwrong July 24, 2012 at 9:31 pm

He's as good an owner as he is a gambler or a baseball player.

anniegetyerfun July 24, 2012 at 2:42 pm

“The whole franchise did well, the people selling popcorn, the people parking the cars … made more money than they ever would have had Michael Jordan never came to the team.”

See? Trickle down! You know who else did well? The owners! He didn't talk about that, though, which is sort of odd.

SorosBot July 24, 2012 at 3:07 pm

And the owners shared that wealth – with the owners of the TV stations, the NBA, advertisers, etc.

BaldarTFlagass July 24, 2012 at 2:43 pm

How déclassé.

BaldarTFlagass July 24, 2012 at 2:46 pm

John Kyl is the reason that John McCain is only the second-biggest asshole in the Senate from Arizona.

Weird_Times July 24, 2012 at 2:46 pm

Funny stuff. I'm going to have to start reading you. But could you ditch the talking ads. They interfere while I'm listening to Dylan. And that's a stone-cold bummer.

JustPixelz July 24, 2012 at 2:47 pm

He can start by not calling rich people "job creators". That's a class distinction. And a lie.

"If you inherited a business, you didn't build that."

emmelemm July 24, 2012 at 2:48 pm

I think I need to go lie down in a quiet room.

The assholery is a little overwhelming today.

va_real July 24, 2012 at 3:00 pm

Just stay away from Mitt's quiet room- there's even more assholery there…

Mapmonger July 24, 2012 at 2:49 pm

Christ, what an asshole.

mavenmaven July 24, 2012 at 2:49 pm

He's speaking from experience. When the GOP officials say the right things to make the Koch bros happy, they all get a little more money tossed their way.

ph7 July 24, 2012 at 2:50 pm

Tell me what’s different about the values of someone who the president identifies as middle class?

Should I be suspicious that a rich person is asking this question?

Biel_ze_Bubba July 24, 2012 at 7:51 pm

Middle-class people are less likely to fire people like themselves, for the sake of the bottom line and Wall Street "expectations"?
Middle-class people don't install a car elevator in one of their six homes?
Middle-class people don't hide their money overseas?
Middle class people don't take a tax deduction for the costs of their dancing horse hobby?
Middle-class people don't tie the dog to the roof of the car?

Lots of diferences, you dumb fuck. Important ones. And if we're lucky, they'll matter in November.

James Michael Curley July 24, 2012 at 2:51 pm

"When Michael Jordan came, after he established how great he would be, he was given an enormous, almost unheard of salary."

Bring a towel.

Mumbletypeg July 24, 2012 at 2:55 pm

If I recall correctly, this is the same Kyl who asked several legislative terms ago, in similar douchepile fashion, why maternity costs had any business gettin' shouldered as obliged to insurers for sharing — since pregnancy's a condition applying to only half the population?

I think I hear my grandmother rolling over in her grave… and over & onward… tunneling across the lengths… miles of root systems and past caverns of other decomposing miscreants wave at her as she rolls … on her way to the burial site of zombie Mama-Kyl to slap her posthumously for the legacy she and we reaped from her disrespectful son.

BlueStateLibel July 24, 2012 at 2:55 pm

Could this guy be even more a prostitute for the 1%? How do these lowlifes get elected?

Biel_ze_Bubba July 24, 2012 at 7:45 pm

Let me rephrase the question: How does a lowlife like Kyl lay hands on millions of dollars for campaign spending? Oh, look, you answered it already!

YasserArraFeck July 24, 2012 at 2:56 pm

Kyl is right – there are no "Middle Class values", there are simply "values" – a concept that most of us understand, but which is beyond the comprehension of Kyl and his masters, who would skullfuck their dead mothers in the middle of an oil slick, to maximize profit.

smokefilledroom-owl July 24, 2012 at 2:57 pm

Yeah, why focus on the middle class when there isn't one anymore?

Fox n Fiends July 24, 2012 at 2:59 pm

Good ol' unionized socialist Michael Jordan.

i've have many flame-wars with Can'tservatives that ended up with me telling them that if they watch pro sports, they are socialists. pisses them off quite nicely.

vodkamuppet July 24, 2012 at 2:59 pm

People in Cleveland just loved it when Lebron got a raise.

Radiotherapy July 24, 2012 at 3:01 pm

If it wasn't for religion relentless Right Wing propaganda the poor would murder the rich.

Napolean Radio.

SayItWithWookies July 24, 2012 at 3:02 pm

Could there be a more coherent argument against the existence of class differences than how a guy getting offered a quarter of a billion dollar contract in an elite sports league increased the average salary from $3 million a year to $4 million a year? Truly Jon Kyl has his finger on the pulse of the American public, and that pulse is just thrumming along like the engine in his gold-plated Cadillac.

James Michael Curley July 24, 2012 at 3:05 pm

"When Michael Jordan came, after he established how great he would be, he was given an enormous, almost unheard of salary."

chascates July 24, 2012 at 3:17 pm

And to Michael Jordan's credit when asked how he felt about taking hundreds of millions in endorsements from a shoe company that used practically slave labor to make them replied, "Hey, I just shoot hoops."

Baba_NinjaCat12 July 24, 2012 at 3:37 pm

Kyl doesn't believe in middle-class because he was last in class in college and high school.

rickmaci July 24, 2012 at 4:08 pm

Remember that great statement by President Sorkin that "American used to be great back in the day when we fought a war on poverty and not a war on the poor," or something to that effect.

Guppy July 24, 2012 at 4:39 pm

(A)s far as there may be any real difficulty in the exercise of the power of internal taxation, it will impose a disposition to greater care in the choice and arrangement of the means; and must naturally tend to make it a fixed point of policy in the national administration to go as far as may be practicable in making the luxury of the rich tributary to the public treasury, in order to diminish the necessity of those impositions which might create dissatisfaction in the poorer and most numerous classes of the society. Happy it is when the interest which the government has in the preservation of its own power, coincides with a proper distribution of the public burdens, and tends to guard the least wealthy part of the community from oppression!

But what does ol' Ten-Dollar know?

labman57 July 24, 2012 at 5:10 pm

Fiscal conservatives are primarily interested in two outcomes:
1) Increasing the income divide between the wealthiest Americans and the rest of society
2) Increasing profit margins for corporations via lowered taxes and minimized environmental and workplace regulations

Reducing unemployment is a secondary issue — if said corporations opt to use their increased profits to hire additional employees, that's their prerogative.

Alas, historical evidence overwhelming demonstrates that increased corporate profits do not translate into increased hiring — increased demand for goods and services does.
And, of course, increased demand requires increased purchasing power by that subset of society which does the majority of the purchasing, i.e., the middle class.

Biel_ze_Bubba July 24, 2012 at 7:41 pm

Way too complicated. For starters, corporations are people (too) (my friend).

Fiscal conservatives are interested in increasing the wealth of the already-rich, because they deserve it (which is obvious because, duh, they're already rich.) Everything else they do, or want to do, follows from that.

Biel_ze_Bubba July 24, 2012 at 7:35 pm

If you're going to talk about the middle class, you should be high-class about it, and do it in quiet rooms.

TribecaMike July 24, 2012 at 8:24 pm

Laissez faire sans fairies!

Dudleydidwrong July 24, 2012 at 9:22 pm

Kyl doesn't like talking about Middle Class values because he knows that is a loser for him and for Mittens. "Obama shouldn't talk about such things because it makes us look bad.." Here, Jon, read this: http://cinemarasik.com/2012/07/21/birth-of-a-cast

ttommyunger July 25, 2012 at 8:11 am

Big, dumb and ugly is no way to go through life, Jon.

notanncoulter July 25, 2012 at 12:53 pm

Needs.
Moar.
Condescending.
Arrogance.

TribecaMike July 25, 2012 at 1:48 pm

"When Michael Jordan came"????

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