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Dark Knight Shooting Victims Practically Shot Themselves, Says Prominent Arizona Idiot

super cool guyYou could say a lot of things about the words of former Arizona state senator Russell Pearce, the lead sponsor of SB 1070, the ol’ “get ridda the browns” law. Most of them have something to do with racism. None of them resemble “consoling” or “reasonable.”

So when he issued a statement about the Dark Knight shooting in Aurora, he did not disappoint: Did you know, for example, that the people to blame for the shooting are the people who got shot?

“Had someone been prepared and armed they could have stopped this ‘bad’ man from most of this tragedy,” he wrote. “All that was needed is one Courages/Brave man prepared mentally or otherwise to stop this it could have been done.”

Translation: People just LET THEMSELVES get shot? What a bunch of PANSIES! Also, I am drunk.

Pearce wrote this on his Facebook page over the weekend — being a Great and Upstanding American who Never Backs Down and whatnot, he has since deleted it. Don’t worry though, your Wonkette didst take a screenshot.

“He was two and three feet away from folks, I understand he had to stop and reload. Where were the men of flight 93???? Someone should have stopped this man,” he typed, presumably without the aid of opposable thumbs. Are you listening, battered, traumatized citizens of Aurora? Stop not being heroes! And when you don’t take your Glock to the movie theater, people with Glocks kill people in the movie theater. The responsible thing to do, obviously, would have been to shoot around in a dark, panicked theater at a guy wearing body armor. You know, like 9/11.

When people started pointing out that maybe this response was nothing more than an exploitative attempt to further a ridiculous gun-control argument at a time when people were trying to scab over bullet wounds, Pearce followed up with a second post (also deleted) that, rather than saying “hey, sorry, let’s just mourn for like FIVE SECONDS before talking politics,” just called the Arizona Republic stupid.

Here’s the picture of that first post. Note his Facebook name still includes “Senator,” despite his rather notable position as the first Arizona state senator ever voted out of office. That was more than eight months ago.

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263 comments

    1. FakaktaSouth

      It makes me think I too am drunk (I happen not to be for some stupid reason) because not only is this complete nonsense, but is that facebook post really blurry to everyone or is that just me? It's sort of symbolically hard to read, like the logic.

    2. tessiee

      "This makes me exceptionally stabby."

      If only someone were exceptionally shooty, we'd all be safe, right?

    3. lulzmonger

      Less stabby than stompy here … SIGH … but then de gustibus non est disputandum, or some such cack.

      1. Dr_Zoidberg

        When, though? No snark, I just kinda want to know when. It seems that nothing ever changes, and the bad people, the idiots, the racists, the hate-filled, spread further and further every day, and nothing changes.

    1. prommie

      It says "Everyone should have a gun so everyone can shoot everyone before everyone shoots someone."

        1. prommie

          Only the Galts survive! Nature red in tooth and claw, thats the meaning of civilization, right?

          You know, this ain't a fight between liberals and conservatives, this isn't a fight between science and superstition, between religion and secularism.

          This country is split by a fight between civilization and barbarism. These people are barbarians, intent on destroying civilization, they simply hate civilization itself and they are itching to sack Rome like the Vandals did.

    1. AbandonHope

      As far as I can tell some wacko in Colorado shot up Penn State which resulted in his being banned from Wonkette, but I may have some of the details wrong.

    1. actor212

      To be precise, dead either way, but you give it a try and pray for a miracle. In the theatre, the people ducked behind seats lived.

      End of story. It's not like the entire theatre was about to crash into another theatre full of innocent people.

      1. thatsitfortheother1

        Better than an armed citizenry, somebody killing the lights/projector might have actually done some good.

        1. sullivanst

          Not sure someone who doesn't care who they kill would really be deterred much by darkness, just keep firing randomly.

          1. actor212

            He seems to have killed people in line of sight, mostly. That's not to say he wouldn't have simply fired blindly, plus turning the lights off would have prevented people who could exit from making it out.

          2. Naked_Bunny

            He could have fired in the direction of the signs. Especially since it would be light there with the doors opening into the corridor.

            I don't think there's anything that could have been done to mitigate the death toll, but there's plenty that could have been done to make it worse. It's easy to come up with scenarios after the fact, but right in the seconds where the gunfire is happening?

            Even the people on Flight 93 had time to find out what was going on elsewhere that morning, and nerve themselves up to fight back after discovering that they were dead even if they didn't.

        2. GhostBuggy

          Yeah, I wondered about that too. I have no idea how theaters work nowadays, but I sort of assumed someone was always up in the booth. Maybe not, or maybe if there was, he had no idea what was happening any more than anyone else not actually in the thick of it.

          1. sullivanst

            In the era of digital projection, the booth is empty most of the time – the projectionist will be running many screens, since they don't need to change reels and therefore don't need to watch for the blips to tell them to do so.

          2. Naked_Bunny

            Heck, even in non-digital theaters, they don't usually have someone in the booth the whole time, since it's not as though the reel changes occur randomly. That's one of the reasons why the starting times are staggered. (The other reason is so everybody doesn't show up at the multiplex at the same time.)

          3. HistoriCat

            And that's why you have a theater full of people yelling "focus" and "volume!" while they miss the first five minutes of the movie.

      2. tessiee

        "It's not like the entire theatre was about to crash into another theatre full of innocent people."

        NOW who's being naive??

  1. Gratuitous World

    i find it amazing that so many people who could've taken out a semi-auto armed man with full armor in a dark and tear gas filled theater spend so much time posting their vigilante fetish told-ya-so's on-line instead of training for combat 24-7.

    1. Biel_ze_Bubba

      There are people who think that way, and there are people trained for combat.
      There is no overlap between the two sets.

      1. tessiee

        I don't claim to be any kind of expert about combat, military strategy, etc.; but my best guess is that that's because people who are familiar with *actual* combat know what it's really like and don't cling to an adolescent fantasy of it. At Pat Parisi said in "The Sopranos", "It won't be cinematic".

      2. sewollef

        In June or July 1973, as a kid, I was in Chile on an exchange deal for my newspaper. There was an attempted military coup while I was there. This was a godsend to a trainee photo-journalist like me.

        My Chilean journalist friends and I piled into a VW bus and drove from Valparaiso to Santiago. Unfortunately, we got caught up close to an armed attack on La Moneda, the Presidential palace.

        Cowering in doorways, all your senses on full alert, you are shitting yourself from the gunfire all around, adrenalin from total fear is coursing through your veins. The smell of cordite and that rattling sound of tanks driving through the streets without knowing whether they're behind or in front of you, the noise, the smells, people running in all directions. It is terrifying.

        And no, I don't want to experience it ever again and no, reacting with any sense of composure is completely out of the question. You are in fear for your life, not knowing where the bullets are coming from.

        It was at that moment I knew I didn't want to become a war photographer… the so-called romance of it was gone.

        1. MittBorg

          There's nothing like the consciousness of possible imminent death to create a laser-like focus on exactly what is and what is not important in life. Nothing.

          1. sewollef

            Yeh, it was scary alright. To add to that brown trouser moment, the Allende authorities shut down all airport traffic — nothing was coming in or leaving — this included the airport I was due to fly out from 2 days later. I was stuck for an extra week.

            The attempted coup failed, but obviously this was only a 'dry run' for the real coup that succeeded on September 11 that year. It became a '9/11 event' that ended up killing more Chilean citizens than the US 9/11 event.

            And of course the CIA helped compile the lists of leftists, trade unionists and activists that the DINA [Chile's secret police] used to hunt down and kill.

            Happy [selfish] thought? I'm glad I went in June and not September.

          2. MittBorg

            I had friends in Grenada during that delightful invasion. The American military knew exactly who to round up in the villages. Those villagers who had been working to start cooperatives, including financial cooperatives. No one's written much about the mass graves there.

            There is only ONE 9/11, of course. OURS. USA! USA! USA.

            I'm glad you survived.

    2. pdiddycornchips

      Everyone regardless of age should be issued an Uzi and instructions on it's use as they enter the theater. That will end this craziness once and for all.

      1. Native_of_SL_UT

        Probably stop those assholes that insist on using their phone at the theater too.

          1. MittBorg

            See, now, I would have no problem with that.

            Except all those yutzes would be armed too, and at the end of it, we'd ALL be deader 'n doornails.

          2. redarmyzombie

            Welp, I dunno about you, but *I'M* going off to have a drink right now!

            (could sure use fucking SOMETHING…)

  2. SorosBot

    Had someone been prepared and armed they could have accidentally shot a whole bunch more of the people in the theater while trying to play Dirty Harry and made the situation even worse.

    That's a much more likely outcome, moran.

    1. chascates

      And when the police arrived they would simply spray the crowd to take out everyone. God will know His own.

      1. SorosBot

        Gee, what a shock to discover that the author of such a horrifically racist law might just be a racist.

    2. oldedinvn

      I is always prepaired. If not the shooter, I could have spraided the area & maybe got him or her or someone.

    3. YasserArraFeck

      Any True Red-Blooded Amercian (TM) would've stood up, spit the toothpick out've the corner of his mouth, pulled out his 50 cal Desert Eagle, squinted down the loooooong, hard, shiny barrel and put one through the Nogoodnik's eye. Then sit back down to finish his popcorn and fend off the dripping babes who flocked around him. It's true – I've seen it in the movies……..

      1. tessiee

        With perhaps a dry, witty punchline like, um… "Haw, did you see the way I shot that guy?"

    4. bobbert

      As I mentioned a few posts back, nope.

      The shooter was wearing body armor, and a gasmask, and had a fucking AR-15. Anybody that fired a handgun would be dead (haha) obvious from the muzzle flash, and shot shortly thereafter, so they'd have little chance to add to the casualties.

      1. MittBorg

        Thank you. All those rah-rah eejits keep forgetting the guy had full body armor. The chances of getting off a good enough shot in a dark theater crowded with screaming, terrified people AND tear gas were pretty fucking minimal. I wish I were rich enough to stage a repeat of this for all these heroes. Put 'em all, fully armed, in a darkened theater and send in a robot with a paintball gun. Robot would be the only survivor, I reckon.

  3. BigSkullF*ckingDog

    I got no snark for this. All I can do is hope that former state senator Russell Pearce enjoys burning in hell after he dies of what is sure to be natural causes after a long life. Except I don't really believe in hell either, so even that hope is no fun. Sigh.

    1. prommie

      He'll be really really wealthy too and his asshole children won't ever have to work. Thats the way the world works.

    2. sullivanst

      Russell Pearce enjoys burning in hell after he dies

      Given he lives in Arizona, he's doing that before he dies. I wish a lifetime without A/C on him.

    3. redarmyzombie

      Well, we *could* always hope he gets devoured by our great and illustrious Cthulhu…

      1. sullivanst

        Yeah, but you didn't write an assholish "If I was there'd I'd have taken him out so it's all the victims' fault for not being awesome like me" Facebook post, did you?

      2. OzoneTom

        That's how I beat the draft also! Did my whole hitch in Alaska.

        The G.I. Bill to go to school afterwards was the gravy.

  4. chascates

    Really, only members of Seal Team Six might have made a difference in this and then only if they were right next to the guy and managed not to hit anyone else. Using a handgun to run off a carjacker or hold a house burglar for the police is a lot different than shooting a moving target armed with more firepower than you who's wearing protective gear in a crowded enclosed space in the dark amidst screams, tear gas, and chaotic panic.

    1. SoBeach

      …only members of Seal Team Six might have made a difference…

      Yeah but these dipshits are all bigger badasses than Seal Team Six in their masturbatory fantasies.

    2. fartknocker

      Myself and some other gun owners had this exact discussion yesterday. Besides law enforcement or U.S. military, very few people have the skills or training to respond to a scenario of 200 scared, screaming people facing off against a criminal with body armor and a large caliber semiautomatic rifle.

      I'm still trying to digest why these types of incidents are becoming almost a monthly event. Between Toronto, Norway last year and this event, what the hell is driving our society to this level of lunacy?

      And Russell Pierce is a goat fucking teajhadist colostomy bag.

    3. BoroPrimorac

      I'm pretty sure a member of Seal Team Six would have a hard time dealing with someone sneaking up on them and opening fire.

  5. chascates

    The obvious solution is for brave Americans to carry guns openly and for coward Americans to wear body armor and stay home. Although there may be a fine line between 'militia' and 'lynch mob'.

    1. AbandonHope

      And be sure to wear a gas mask at all times. And night-vision goggles. And have a laser sight on your gun.

    2. tessiee

      "there may be a fine line between 'militia' and 'lynch mob'. "

      Or, since it's Arizona, none.

  6. Goonemeritus

    Had people in the World Trade Towers only had the sense to arm themselves with Stinger missiles thousands would be alive today

    Edit – I’m assuming this guy has given up on running for office ever again.

    1. MaxNeanderthal

      I mentioned this general argument yesterday to a friend of mine (ex British Royal Marines, ex SAS) who's only comment was a hoot of derision, and the comment "stupid c**t"….

      1. Goonemeritus

        Gun companies sell the allusion of defense the way cologne companies sell sexual desirability in a bottle. Even casual investigations of real data show an inverse effect on desired outcome.

  7. BaldarTFlagass

    The theater-goers should have just taken off and nuked the Cineplex from orbit. It would have been the only way to be sure.

  8. actor212

    And when you don’t take your Glock to the movie theater, people with Glocks kill people in the movie theater.

    If we outlaw movies, only outlaws will have movies.

    1. chascates

      But this guy had an AR so I'll have to take mine as well as a Glock. And since he had a pump shotgun I'll have to carry my automatic one. Crap, my gun safe needs to have wheels on it!

    2. tessiee

      "If we outlaw movies, only outlaws will have movies."

      Even those movies where Nicolas Cage goes batshit?

  9. chascates

    Click on the Facebook and it'll open in another window and become clear. Legible, I mean.

  10. IncenseDebate

    I have a suggestion. Why not just shoot anyone who buys an automatic weapon and ammo? That would prevent this kind of thing from happening.

    1. Preferred Customer

      "OK, sir, you're almost done, and we'll be able to give you the giant-ass gun you want for reasons that are probably totally legit and have nothing to do with an absence of detectable sexual organs. You just have to fill out this form…great…now, if you would just hold this target up in front of you…perfect."

    1. Guppy

      The daycare employees should be packing, without trigger locks or safeties, because reaction time.

  11. Swampgas_Man

    I've been openly avoiding my paper's letters-to-the-editor section, terrified that I'll read something from one of these "If me and MY gun had been there" dribblings and blow my blood pressure through the roof. Asshole.

    1. SorosBot

      And every one of these manly would-be vigilantes who knows they could have taken out the shooter all by themselves would have, if there, immediately pissed and shit their pants.

    2. tessiee

      "As soon as I'm done eating my popcorn, I'm gonna take that gun off him and kick his ass, etc. etc."

  12. noodlesalad

    The problem with shootings is not enough shooters. Just like the problem with unemployment is not enough unemployed, and the problem with poverty is not enough poors.

  13. ThundercatHo

    Why delete the fb post? Aren't you man enough to stand behind your own words? No balls.

    1. kathop53

      maybe he got his glock out and shot it. no…he's too vicarious for that. he can only stand behind other people's words, then snipe.

  14. Limeylizzie

    I hope this doesn't insult any Latter Day Wonkettes, but this tool, JT Ready who had his own massacre, the moronic Az Sec of State/Birther man and , of course Mittens, are all Mormons. Make of that what you will, I am going with racism as the other common denominator.

    1. sewollef

      Had a bizarre thought: What if Ena Sharples packed heat in the snug of Rovers' Return…. me thinks there'd by no arguing with that lady, and she'd be getting her glass of stout pretty sharpish.

      1. MittBorg

        I don't know anything about Ena Sharples or Rovers' Return, but I can tell you, if I'd been packing in the snug in that pub in Galway, I'd've had my champers pretty fucking quick, fer sure.

  15. BaldarTFlagass

    I wonder if we would be having this conversation if this Holmes guy had gone to see Ice Age:Continental Drift or Madagascar 3 instead.

    1. YasserArraFeck

      If I'd been forced to sit through either of those screen gems, I probably would have shot myself.

  16. Estproph

    The people that died Friday morning went to their graves thankful that they live in a country with a Second Amendment.

    What a piece of $hit that man is.

  17. DailyGrumbles

    I smell a WAGER! Tell you what Russ, let's test that theory of yours. We'll lock you in a 4×4 room and pop some tear gas, after a cool minute of sucking down some of that "Egypt Freedom Juice", you'll be let loose on a target. Now, the gunman was covered head to toe in armor, so the only hits on target that will count are ones through the left eye. And since you're no pussy, only a .45 Colt will do for you. Now here is where the fun comes in. For every shot OFF target or miss. We shock you with enough ZAPP to defib a moose. Whaddayousay?? Proceeds will go to a Victims Fund! Come on!

  18. elviouslyqueer

    "Lives were lost because of a bad man, not because he had a weapon but because noone [sic] was prepared to stop it."

    Um, "Senator" Pearce? I believe lives were lost in Aurora precisely because "the bad man" had a weapon. Four, to be exact. You fucking moron.

        1. sullivanst

          To mix national metaphors, the yarn he's spinning is a load of bollocks, so yes, I'd say you're about right.

  19. JustPixelz

    Instead of buying and carrying a gun everywhere, I'll just stay home. Especially from Arizona.

  20. smashedinhat

    Well, obviously the answer is to avoid all public spaces, and we can produce shadow puppets on the walls of our steel reinforced underground dungeons left over from the Soviet times. And feel the FEAR! Oh gawd how I missed you so!

  21. AbandonHope

    Arizona idiot

    I'm sorry, that headline must have come from the Department of Redundancy Department.

  22. Allmighty_Manos

    Might be worth pointing out that the theater in question doesn't allow you bring in firearms – as do most private businesses who don't want to pay half their budget in insurance.

    But seriously, Pearce needs to guzzle a bottle of Drano mixed with razor blades.

    1. HistoriCat

      I'm waiting for someone to go full-crazy and introduce an all-purpose "any employee can carry at their job" bill … then we let the NRA and the Chamber of Commerce tear into each other.

      1. sullivanst

        You say that as if you think the Chamber of Commerce exists primarily to promote the interests of a broad spectrum of businesses in this country, and not first and foremost to promote the Republican Party.

        1. HistoriCat

          I'm kind of assuming Exxon and AT&T don't want their corporate offices filled with gun-toting employees.

    2. tessiee

      "Pearce needs to guzzle a bottle of Drano mixed with razor blades."

      Then he'd be pierced.
      [ya get it, huh?]

    3. redarmyzombie

      I'd also like to point out myself that I smuggle stuff into theaters ALL the time. I'm sure anyone who wanted to bring their firearm would have been inclined to do the same.

      1. MittBorg

        Well, yes. However, I sure hope people don't start smuggling their fucking guns into theaters, because we're talking Americans here. While I have no problem with say a theater full of armed Israelis (I mean those folks train round the clock with that shit and they know all about gun safety), I fully expect a theater full of armed Americans to result in multiple casualties as various PeopleofWalmart types attempt to shift their FUPA for greater ease in belching, farting, or rearranging food and sproggen.

        1. redarmyzombie

          Oh, I'm not saying it's a good idea. I just mean anyone who was inclined to bring them would have done so, thereby rendering any wingnut rantings about the establishment in question not allowing firearms on their premises absolutely irrelevant.

  23. Preferred Customer

    Isn't it the case that the movie theater forbid the carrying of handguns on its property? Why does Russell Pearce hate property rights so, so much?

  24. An_Outhouse

    "Lives were lost not because of a bad man, but because no one was prepared to stop it".

    Moral relativism at its finest. This immoral piece of human garbage needs to deport himself before the surveyors get to him.

  25. Chet Kincaid

    Why don't they just use the same technology they use to detect people with video cameras making bootlegs movie theaters? If somebody has something suspicious in their hand, they can be auto-tazed in their seat, and then the ushers, who should always be off-duty cops and ex-military police, can draw down on them. TSA x-ray machinery and procedures should, of course, be instituted at all movie theaters, which should make theater security jobs very attractive, since hot chicks are always being taken on dates to the movies. Tickets will cost $75, but that is the price we pay for the Second Amendment.

    1. AbandonHope

      You're on to something. I suggest you take Tom Friedman's advice and form a startup using magical fairy money from the sky to explore this idea further.

  26. Nowisallthereis

    Lives were lost 'not because he had a weapon'. Of course. Lives would have been lost if he had waved his wiener at them instead of a couple of Glocks and an auto. Of course. They also would have been lost if he had aimed a pea-shooter at them. Of course. The guns had nothing at all to do with the loss of life. Nothing.

  27. Guppy

    The only way to ensure that everyone has the proper training to respond in such a situation is to institute a universal draft, like some of the finer socialist countries in Europe. And we'd have to make sure that it applies to everyone, not allowing anybody to hide from the Viet Cong in the AZNG.

    1. sullivanst

      Of course, those soshulist Europeens allow public service as an alternative to military service.

  28. el_donaldo

    Did you guys catch the story about the racist emails from this walking dog turd the ACLU was able to FOIA from when SB 1070 was making its way to the legislature?

    I nominate Pearce as the person to sacrifice himself by throwing his body in the path of every lunatics' semiautomatic round forever.

  29. CivicHoliday

    A million cans of hobo beans says that 'ol Russell would have been the very first person to shit himself and pass out from fear in that theater. And I am including the 3 month old baby.

  30. finette_

    We don't even know for sure yet that someone else in the theater wasn't packing, do we? There are two active duty military among the dead, two wounded, and a lot more who made it out OK.

    ETA: Which is not to imply that I think members of the military all carry weapons at all times, nor that I think they're allowed to take their service weapons with them when they're off-duty. It's just–if anybody in there was likely to have their own weapon and know how to use it in a chaotic situation, it would be them.

    As for not removing "Senator" from his The Facebook–he probably doesn't know how without the interns who set it up.

  31. MonkeyMotion

    Exactly right, Russell. Same for them sorry-ass 'victims' at Columbine, Virginia Tech, etc.

    Clearly the answer is EVERYONE being armed — at movie theaters, shopping malls, sporting events, schools (yes, even pre-schools!), Disneyland, GOP conventions, churches, Russell's neighborhood — EVERYWHERE. Oh yeah, and cut taxes while you're at it.

    Praise, god bless, and where are my nachos?

  32. Bezoar

    I suppose he's considered the outcome if 6 or 8 people had pulled out guns in the dark and started shooting.

    1. ChessieNefercat

      "I suppose he's considered the outcome if 6 or 8 people had pulled out guns in the dark and started shooting."

      a) 6 or 8 minimally trained with no follow up people employed in jobs requiring no firearms expertise at all

      b) No, they never do.

  33. ph7

    I'm all for allowing the gunman and Russell Pearce a one-on-one renactment to test his theory.

  34. kissawookiee

    Sometimes there really is nothing left to say except fuck off and die in a fire (slowly) after a nails lady has removed your scrotum bit by bit with rusty, dull, unregulated toenail trimmers while you're being sodomized by a syphilitic goat, you fucking fuck.

    This may be one of those times.

  35. anniegetyerfun

    Guns don't kill people. People with lots of guns and full body armor kill people in dark theaters after throwing a canister of tear gas in first.

    It's very simple, I don't see why you liberals can't figure that out.

  36. Pragmatist2

    Mr. Pearce and his heroic ilk ignore one basic fact:
    Shooting someone with a pistol who is firing at you with an assault rifle is actually very hard. Indeed, NYC police, who have mandatory gun proficiency training and well maintained and high quality equipment, manage to hit their target in actual confrontations only one out of eight times. In that time an assault weapon will have splattered 30-40 bullets at them with a higher accuracy. So, Pearce, you've got to ask yourself one question: Are you feeling lucky?

  37. Woodshedding

    Wonkele, good article but I want to correct one thing; "They got themself shot" is the correct redneck terminology. They didn't just let it happen, they MADE it happen.

    1. viennawoods13

      Jesus. I can guess what the father's "unspecified medical issue" following that was.

  38. Naked_Bunny

    Yeah, I really want to see the day when I might get shot at a movie because some armed dude who is full of caffeine and really has to pee is irked at my $3 M&Ms bag crinkling too loudly.

  39. tessiee

    "Barring some seismic realignment in this country, the gun control debate is all but settled — and your side won. The occasional horrific civilian massacre is just the price the rest of us have to pay. Over and over again, apparently." — "This Modern World" cartoon, first posted after the Gabby Giffords shooting, and now relevant again, or still

    1. superdave

      Yeah, it's a horrible tragedy. But part of me is like, well, this is the country we have chosen. With our guns laws the way they are, things like this are bound to happen. If we choose to have easy access to guns for all, this will continue to happen.

      The NRA owns the Republicans and the Democrats have been cowed into submission. So nothings going to change.

  40. tessiee

    “All that was needed is one Courages/Brave man"

    Chances are you won't get anything unless you're able to spell it.

  41. ElPinche

    Looks like the Aurora psychopath killer is the next darling of the GOP, just like Zimmerman.

  42. va_real

    How could this man be considered racist when the clashing boutonniere & tie clearly indicate that this man is, indeed, color blind?

  43. tessiee

    Even if Russell Pearce were not as completely worthless as he is, I would still loathe him for screwing up my youtube searches for Russell Peterson. At least when the latter says, "Somebody gonna get hurt", it's funny.

  44. mavenmaven

    The republican fantasists are particularly disappointed that Superman didn't show up, inhale the gas, and apprehend the villain, like he would have done were Reagan still president.

    1. tessiee

      If Dumbass were still pretzeldent, he would have would of personally showed up at the theater in a stuffed crotch flightsuit and knocked the shooter out with one punch with "Stars and stripes forever" playing in the background.

  45. GregComlish

    Serious Question: Every time somebody goes on a rampage, the NRA crowd bemoans that not enough people were armed to stop the shooter. Has this ever happened even once? Was there even one incident where a privately armed citizen witnessed a shooting spree and proceeded to accurately shoot the gunman without hitting anybody else and then everything abruptly came to a peaceable halt without any more bullets? Because every time I read about these attacks, the killer is always taken down by the cops or by suicide.

    There were no less than three privately-armed citizens present during the massacre of the Gabriele Giffords entourage, but they all fled. The Ft. Hood shooting was on a military base. It was crowd of highly trained, heavily armed, battle-tested, gun-enthusiastic American heroes, And even then, even the most advantageous circumstances possible for a bystander, the assailant was still taken down by a police officer.

    In light of this, it seems the honest chance of a privately armed citizen with minimal training stopping an assailant is almost zero. There are challenges in combating a gunman (eg, navigating total chaos and uncertainty under the threat of death) that gun advocates naively dismiss. The idea that privately armed folks are going to be effective in opposing an armed assailant is a cartoonish belief rooted in child-like fantasy that the good guys always win.

    1. sullivanst

      I think the guy the gun nuts held up as an example of why they were right in the Giffords shooting is actually a fairly comprehensive case study in why they're completely and utterly wrong:

      He was in the drug store when he heard the first shot, ran into the scene with his safety clicked off, saw the actual hero who'd disarmed Loughner, decided not to draw and shoot because he didn't want to be mistaken for a second gunman (wise choice) and instead tackled the good guy, wrestling him against a wall. With a gun with the safety off in his jacket pocket, where an accidental discharge would almost certainly have injured one of them.

      The only difference his gun made in the end was it was a factor in his running into the scene. His presence there really didn't do anything good – the gunman was already being subdued, but he set that effort back. Had he fired his weapon at the person he was considering firing at, it would have been at least one more innocent victim. Worst case, it would've allowed Loughner to regain his weapon and continue the attack. Everyone involved was basically highly lucky that he had enough awareness of the dangers of gun use in that situation not to use his gun.

    2. SpeedoFart

      Well, talking about Gabby Gifford, wasn't whatshisface was taken down by an unarmed aid?

      Also, wasn't Dr Tiller's shooter tackled by a couple of unarmed church ushers?

      Seems like you're way more helpful if you aren't carrying a piece.

      Edit:
      Maybe instead of Tiller, I'm thinking of the shooting that happened at a Unitarian church a while back. Remember that? In one of the instances, it was unarmed people that stopped and held the shooter.

  46. Monsieur_Grumpe

    Why would anyone want to live in a country where you must bring a weapon to go to the movies?

  47. tessiee

    “All that was needed is one Courages/Brave man… With large, muscular biceps and dreamy blue eyes… MMMmmm… um, wait, what was I saying?"

  48. ChessieNefercat

    Colorado is a concealed carry state, right? I read that there was one person with a gun who realized that the only way to use the gun would be to expose him/herself to a difficult to see, fully armored, heavily armed shooter, and who wisely chose to hide instead.

    Also, too Former. Sen. Asswipe? I'll bet there were any number of people in that theater who felt the same way. Yes, sirree, I am sure if you were there, despite being all big and bad, and Courages/Brave, you would have been among the first to toss an infant through the air in order to wedge your fat ass under the nearest seat.

    You have your gun! You stand up in the middle of the smoke, and screaming, and panic, and people running all over! You're thinking aim at the one with the gun! But you see a lot of guns. You're all thinking the same thing, and you take each other out as well as how many more caught in the crossfire?

    I am tired of people like Pearce using terrible tragedies as an excuse to masturbate to their fantasies of having a dick long enough to throw over their shoulder and hit a gay/woman/minority right in the face.

    Sorry this isn't very coherent. I'm upset.

  49. lulzmonger

    Today we are NOT all Russell "Divothead" Pearce, putting on his best He-Man camslut moves for some cable network crews & just cold classing up some grisly mass-murder aftermath LIKE A MUTHAFUGGIN' BOSS. Wow: oddly, wageslaves often act more slavish even in a crisis than "Courages/Brave" – & who better to concern-troll about this banality than that squinting mewling withered lump?

    More importantly, did Pearce crib this entire bit from 2002-vintage Coultergeist – or as I recently saw on the Interwebs, did she just simply wait for an off-guard moment to stab her unspeakable black oily distended mutant ovipositor into his pooper & infect him with a ventriloquist Coulterembryo?

    It would be criminally negligent not to speculate.

  50. barto

    Obvsly the proper response is to have everyone remove their shoes and get x-rayed and manually violated before being allowed in the theatre. Also, no drinkies!

  51. Schmegeg

    CBS introduced the orange haired defendant as James EAGAN Holmes today, thus initiating him into the assassins club.

    1. Fare la Volpe

      Considering a man who shared just two of his names received harassment and death threats on Facebook, I can't imagine why.

  52. outragedcitizen

    Anyone have any doubts that put in this situation, the good "Senator" would have either shit himself or shot himself in the foot trying to get his gun out of the holster? Maybe both?

  53. Lazy Media

    He wasn't wearing body armor. He was wearing "ballistic gear," which is just nylon-web belts and vests and stuff.

  54. ttommyunger

    Thank to this doughy pant-load I now understand the term "Hindsight" : it is the particular point of view one has while peeping out of his own asshole.

  55. deleted3170292

    uh….this dude had armor, an AR-15, a shotgun, and 2 glocks.
    it would have been quite a feat for the average armed civilian to beat that.

  56. Troglodeity

    So, basically he's saying his friend's niece's best friend's boyfriend is less than a man. Nice.

  57. clblabin

    Also implied in the distinguished gentleman's comments: everybody on Flights 11, 77, and 175 were pussies. He's just sayin'.

    But what we really needed on 9/11 was a few REAL MEN with anti-aircraft weapons in their back yards in order to shoot down any airplane that's acting suspiciously–tragedy averted.

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