YOU'RE KIDDING US  1:27 pm July 20, 2012

ABC News Should Fire Brian Ross, And Other Notes On Being Terrible

by Jim Newell

Always a-talkin' to the sourcesThere are 12 people dead and 50 injured at a movie theater in Colorado, including a baby. It’s not as though you can’t look into a suspect’s history after a massacre and report things as they’re confirmed. That’s what the media should do! What the media, and every idiot on the Twitter, should not do, is first seek out a narrow angle that probably has nothing to do with crazy people going crazy — say, “what political party is this insane person in?” — and then get it wrong out of pure laziness. This matters. Let’s shame some people. First up: ABC News should fire Brian Ross.

Here’s how things went on Good Morning America, as people were just waking up to get the news about a massacre at the movie theater:

George Stephanopoulos: I want to go to Brian Ross here, because Brian you’ve been investigating the background of Jim Holmes and you found something that might be significant….

Brian Ross: There’s a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado, page on the Colorado Tea Party site as well, talking about him joining the Tea Party last year. Now, we don’t know if this is the same Jim Holmes. But it’s Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado.

Jesus fucking Christ on a hotplate. Brian Ross and his BLOTTER INVESTIGATIVE TEAM googled for a few minutes and didn’t bother trying to confirm anything and wow, huh, look at that, he was wrong.

Editor’s Note: An earlier ABC News broadcast report suggested that a Jim Holmes of a Colorado Tea Party organization might be the suspect, but that report was incorrect. ABC News and Brian Ross apologize for the mistake, and for disseminating that information before it was properly vetted.

Tea Party people on the Internet are furious over this, and they have every right to be, because it’s an egregious, early error that will color the impressions of people no matter how frequently or aggressively it’s retracted. Can Brian Ross! Put him in the goddamn street. He is constantly wrong, at reporting on national television.

Breitbart.com has been busy hammering ABC News all morning, but not so much that it didn’t have time to post its own typically shitty false reporting as well. We’d call for a firing at Breitbart.com, but it is wrong about every story, and so… they get away with it? Ha ha, incentives. EXCLUSIVE:

James Holmes, the suspect arrested in connection with the mass shootings at a screening of the new Batman movie early this morning in Aurora, CO, could be a registered Democrat, according to documents obtained by Breitbart News.

Uh huh. [*Checks wrist watch for a few seconds*]

Update (12:49 EDT): Newly-released information on the suspect’s birthdate (which, as indicated in our initial report, was a slight mismatch), combined with new details Breitbart News has obtained about the suspect’s likely addresses, together suggest that the suspect may, in fact, not have been registered to vote.

The dumbest member of Congress also has some thoughts. We’d rather not get into it.

Our condolences to the victims’ families and the people of Aurora, Colorado.

[ABC News, Breitbart via Gawker]

 
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Allmighty_Manos July 20, 2012 at 1:31 pm

Your move CNN.

weejee July 20, 2012 at 1:39 pm

Your move Mittens, your move Barry. Fuck the NRA.

johnnymeatworth July 20, 2012 at 1:51 pm

Let's go to our Wolf Blitzer Hologram….

ChernobylSoup July 20, 2012 at 1:32 pm

Good thing the shooter's name wasn't Bill Smith.

actor212 July 20, 2012 at 1:37 pm

"This just in to Breitbart News: Black actor black Will Smith was blackily involved in a black on white shooting in white Colorado movie theatre…"

Gratuitous World July 20, 2012 at 1:49 pm

or Brian Ross

actor212 July 20, 2012 at 1:51 pm

"Famed painter Bob¹ Ross gunned down dozens of people in a movie theatre last night.

¹ possible slight mismatch"

MrsConclusion July 20, 2012 at 2:24 pm

Maybe it was! We'll never know.

Barrelhse July 20, 2012 at 5:45 pm

Everyone knew him as "Nancy."

noodlesalad July 20, 2012 at 1:32 pm

Could have been worse – he could have suggested that the events of the day suggested a need for America to re-examine its death fetish with guns.

Condolences to all victims of gun violence.

BaldarTFlagass July 20, 2012 at 1:33 pm

Chrissakes, the guy is obviously a nutcase. No one ever talks about whether Charles Whitman was a Democrat or a Republican.

actor212 July 20, 2012 at 1:36 pm

In fairness, a lot of mileage came out of Giffords shooting, but then she was a poltician, so Loughner's political positions had validity in the case

Lionel[redacted]Esq July 20, 2012 at 1:41 pm

Whtiman wasn't a member of any particular political party. More of a sampler.

mookwrthwilson July 20, 2012 at 1:45 pm

I would say he was nuts…but he was actually full of nuts…and some of that cherry sugary goo…

Rosie_Scenario July 20, 2012 at 2:02 pm

And had a brain tumor, or is that an urban myth?

BaldarTFlagass July 20, 2012 at 2:19 pm

Not a myth.

b[redact]opple July 20, 2012 at 2:34 pm

There was a rumor
about a tumor
nestled at the base of his brain.

Puffperney July 20, 2012 at 5:15 pm

Yes, he had a brain tumor. He left a note, here's Wiki's summary: "…He requested that an autopsy be done after his death, to determine if there had been anything to explain his actions and increasing headaches

grex1949 July 20, 2012 at 3:22 pm

No, but his name is rarely mentioned without the descriptive term "ex-Marine".

MittBorg July 22, 2012 at 3:50 am

You've been away for a long time, my friend.

bibliotequetress July 20, 2012 at 9:06 pm

Balder, I think that back when Whitman did his thing, it wasn't particularly relevant. I think that an argument could be made that the political stance of a mass murderer in the US since 1990 has become relevant. I think it started in earnest with the first anti-abortion violence, although we could go back to violent attacks based on race or religion for the birth of this.

Quick search:

Pentagon attempted murder 2010 http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2010/03/05/8530

Holocaust museum shooting 2009 http://articles.cnn.com/2009-06-10/justice/museum

Brockton MA racist antisemitic murders/rapes 2009 http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/20

George Tiller's slaughter 2009 http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06

Unitarian church attack 2008 http://www.knoxnews.com/news/news/local/knoxville

AAAARGH too depressing time for wine

Jus_Wonderin July 20, 2012 at 1:33 pm

Wow! Very, totally, typically disgusting.

Though, when I woke and heard the news I figured it wouldn't be long until rabid consevatives labeled Holmes a Democrat.

sullivanst July 20, 2012 at 2:11 pm

And, of course, it wasn't.

CommieLibunatic July 20, 2012 at 2:52 pm

Word. I'd be shocked if it weren't so fucking predictable.

Mittens Howell, III July 20, 2012 at 1:33 pm

News is meant to be broadcast, not vomited.

MLHencken July 20, 2012 at 1:34 pm

Louis Gohmert needs to be repeatedly kicked in the nuts until his voice gets so hoarse from the screaming all he can say is: "I'm sorry."

rickmaci July 20, 2012 at 1:37 pm

Gohmert needs to be committed to a mental treatment facility and kept there for as long as it takes restore even a small part of his sanity.

Lionel[redacted]Esq July 20, 2012 at 1:43 pm

Life, you're saying.

AbandonHope July 20, 2012 at 2:00 pm

Good thing for him Reagan closed so many of them!

sullivanst July 20, 2012 at 2:14 pm

Restore?

Maman July 20, 2012 at 1:58 pm

I don't want to even hear him apologize.

sullivanst July 20, 2012 at 2:14 pm

I'll help. Maybe I'll vomit all over him, too, because he makes me fucking sick.

badseeds July 20, 2012 at 2:54 pm

Our condolences to the people of Texas's 1st Congressional District.

Gratuitous World July 20, 2012 at 1:34 pm

more lax gun laws is the obvious answer here.

Lionel[redacted]Esq July 20, 2012 at 1:43 pm

And tax cuts for the wealthy. How can you forget that?

Designer_Rants July 20, 2012 at 1:54 pm

I heard on NPR this morning, 12 people dead, 30+ injured, not a single reload.

AbandonHope July 20, 2012 at 2:09 pm

Jesus. I guess it's a really good thing I opted to forego NPR this morning and listened to an uplifting album (Eels' "Tomorrow Morning") instead, because that shit would've destroyed my good mood. I mean, not that my good mood means jack shit compared to all those poor people… just that… I think I'm just going to stop listening to the news ever. It's apparently really dangerous to my mental health.

Designer_Rants July 20, 2012 at 5:57 pm

Also, I could've been mistaken. I heard that on Tom Ashbrooke's show this morning. Now doing a Google, some stories say the guy was reloading, some say he was emptying guns and throwing them down and getting new guns. enough bullets to injure or kill 71 people, anyway.

CommieLibunatic July 20, 2012 at 2:57 pm

Their obvious answer for EVERYTHING, you mean. Medicine is too expensive? MOAR DAKKA

Jus_Wonderin July 20, 2012 at 1:35 pm

However, like my dog, they will probably eat it right back up. "Mmmm. Warm food!"

Mittens Howell, III July 20, 2012 at 1:44 pm

Now that you mention it, vomiting and re-eating sounds like a pundit job description.

Jus_Wonderin July 20, 2012 at 1:47 pm

Ah. Then there is possible employment for my dogs. All they do is lay around all day and listen to NPR.

AbandonHope July 20, 2012 at 2:00 pm

I agree. I've been trying to get my dogs to pull their own weight for a while. Maybe I should stop feeding and watering them so they'll pull themselves up by their own… um… pawstraps.

Geminisunmars July 20, 2012 at 2:17 pm

Or, as LBJ would've liked it, by their own ears.

CommieLibunatic July 20, 2012 at 2:54 pm

I believe this post deserves a humorous illustration.

actor212 July 20, 2012 at 1:35 pm

Newly-released information on the suspect’s birthdate (which, as indicated in our initial report, was a slight mismatch)

Um. Yea. Cuz fact-checking demands you put the story out with such a glaring "mismatch"

Lionel[redacted]Esq July 20, 2012 at 1:45 pm

Hey, for once, zombie Breitbart did some fact checking, even if it was after the fact. I'm just waiting for them to nail Holmes for hugging Sherrod Brown.

pdiddycornchips July 20, 2012 at 2:05 pm

ABC should fire Brian Ross along with the producers and editors who green lighted his on air report. They have to decide, do they want to compete with the Breitbart/Drudge's of the universe on getting things first or do they want to compete on competence. This shit show proves they can't do both.

Callyson July 20, 2012 at 1:35 pm

Aaaand I am reminded once again of why I hardly ever watch TV news anymore.

My sympathies with those who are impacted by this senseless violence.

HalluxValgus July 20, 2012 at 1:35 pm

Dear internet- if you have a "take" other than just being very sad, you are wrong. Just be sad, for like a minute. Then we can talk about your tea party or your second amendment or your aspiring sportscaster or whatever else bullshit. For now- sad.

the end

ChernobylSoup July 20, 2012 at 1:39 pm

I agree. But we have to consider how the UN and those Denver bike paths might be involved, because they totally were.

AbandonHope July 20, 2012 at 2:06 pm

I don't know, "fucking angry" works pretty well too.

MLHencken July 20, 2012 at 1:36 pm

The only thing reporter Brian Ross is capable of "scooping" is dogshit off of the sidewalk.

Dildeaux July 20, 2012 at 1:37 pm

Look, Dild despises the tbaggers as much as anyone. And the victimization crowd will have a field day with this goof, but frankly, Ross should lose his job, even if he qualified his statements. He was unprofessional, uninformed and useless. Leave the speculation to us professional left bleggers. You, Ross, are supposed to report reality. Nut up.

pdiddycornchips July 20, 2012 at 2:09 pm

Brian Ross is only the first step. Where's the accountability for the higher ups who decide what to put on the air? I have a hard time believing no one at ABC News knew what Mr. Ross was going to say.

BloviateMe July 20, 2012 at 1:37 pm

This kind of thing used to be humiliating, and a career destroyer. Now, it's barely surprising.

TribecaMike July 20, 2012 at 1:37 pm

In other news, the Supreme Court has ruled against the Affordable Care Act.

MissTaken July 20, 2012 at 1:37 pm

CNN Breaking News:

Colorado Shooting Suspect J. Holmes Could Be Famous Pornstar Who, According To Wikipedia, Died In 1988

BaldarTFlagass July 20, 2012 at 1:42 pm

My, that's a big gun.

Lionel[redacted]Esq July 20, 2012 at 1:46 pm

It's the perfect cover, and explains why he was so well equipped.

actor212 July 20, 2012 at 1:53 pm

Wadd the fuck???

metamarcisf July 20, 2012 at 1:38 pm

If Batman had been allowed to carry a gun, this tragedy may be been averted.

CommieLibunatic July 20, 2012 at 3:02 pm

Naturally, the page where he tells Robin how they'll practice breaking, disarming, and even throwing firearms evades me when I could use it most.

SexySmurf July 20, 2012 at 1:38 pm

If those people didn't want their deaths to be politicized then they shouldn't have gotten shot.

Antispandex July 20, 2012 at 1:38 pm

It's times like this I am glad to be somewhere that allows you to carry a gun if you want to. For reals. This would be a real surprise here…for the shooter, when all of the other patrons pulled their iron and dropped him.

noodlesalad July 20, 2012 at 1:43 pm

Yes, because the only thing that would have made this chaotic, dark, tear gas-filled theater safe would have been more bullets. Give me a fucking break.

sullivanst July 20, 2012 at 2:22 pm

As Fuckiningidiot (R-TX)'s interviewer pointed out, Colorado has shall-issue concealed carry permits.

mavenmaven July 20, 2012 at 1:43 pm

More likely drop twelve other innocent kids trying to get away. When has that fantasy scenario you describe ever actually happened? Never.

actor212 July 20, 2012 at 1:44 pm

I dunno. He led off with tear gas canisters.

I haven't fired too many weapons in my day, but I suspect that gagging and tears welling in my eyes might make aiming and returning fire with accuracy a bit suspect.

redarmyzombie July 20, 2012 at 4:33 pm

Oh, believe me, it's hard enough WITHOUT problems! Now, I will admit I am in no way a marksman to begin with, but I suspect the same is true of most people in this country.

keinsignal July 20, 2012 at 1:44 pm

Colorado *is* somewhere that allows you to carry a gun if you want to.

Lionel[redacted]Esq July 20, 2012 at 1:48 pm

Yes, a free fire zone in a dark theater full of smoke would not have increased the loss of life at all.

That being said, I have no problems with people being licensed to carry assuming they have had training in the use and safety of their weapon.

Oblios_Cap July 20, 2012 at 1:56 pm

I don't see how any more people would have been hit if everybody was armed, standing in a ring around the shooter, and aimed carefully in the dark, chaotic theater. Most people are great marksman, so every bullet that the circular firing squad let off would have surely only hit the perp.

Antispandex July 20, 2012 at 2:05 pm

Well, most people who carry, here, are ex-military, so I was assuming a similar skill set to mine. If I wasn't good under fire, there would be no Mr. Antispandex. However, I can't blame most people, who are afraid of guns, to understand that alot of us can be trusted with guns and ammo…and to do the right thing, even under preasure.

actor212 July 20, 2012 at 2:09 pm

Hang on, there's like 300 million guns in the country. I'm not sure that many are owned by ex-military

IceCreamEmpress July 20, 2012 at 2:33 pm

Are you somehow missing that Colorado is a concealed carry permit state where it is really easy to get a ccp?

GeorgiaBurning July 20, 2012 at 2:34 pm

I appreciate that there are well-trained and reasonable people who could have limited the damage done by this twerp, and their carrying weapons never bothers me. But there are not a lot of these guys. My own weapons training was enough to hit a stationary target and keep me from shooting myself or friendly folks. In a situation like this I'd be ducking like everyone else. I hope I'd remember to leave the weapon behind when I ran out of the theater into a crowd of cops.

mavenmaven July 20, 2012 at 3:01 pm

Apparently there were military among the dead. And some of us disagreeing with you have military backgrounds.

Dashboard Buddha July 20, 2012 at 2:10 pm

use, safety, and urban combat skills. Probably not a bad idea to carry night goggles too.

Mittens Howell, III July 20, 2012 at 2:01 pm

Because America won't be completely safe till there's a gun in every mouth.

Oblios_Cap July 20, 2012 at 2:10 pm

Golly Gee, Mr. Antispanks! You are obviously a man's man. I, too, was in the service, but, sadly, am now an Oldz.

I don't trust you or your fiucking "skill set" as much as you seem to think that I should. I'd hate to be in a crowded theater when I found out that I was right.

IceCreamEmpress July 20, 2012 at 2:35 pm

I think every military unit on Earth except maybe the 101st Fighting Keyboarders would have training that advised against opening fire in a crowded, smoke-filled theater full of confused potential victims trying to get out or get to cover, yes?

Dashboard Buddha July 20, 2012 at 2:08 pm

It's funny you mention this. I've been having a similar discussion with my nephew on FB. He's all ready to go to urban combat classes, btw. (nice kid, but serious knee jerk there). One of his friend posted this trenchant comment:

"I have guns and consider myself decently trained (not an LEO or anything) but I don't think I would've been able to effectively single out one guy in a dark room of hundreds, with gas, a loud movie, screams and people running all over the place. if someone breaks in my house, I know who is supposed to he here and who isn't, in a public place things get confusing and chaotic."

Chet Kincaid July 20, 2012 at 2:11 pm

Damn straight!! My piece keeps a lid on all the fucking chatter in movie theaters, too!

pdiddycornchips July 20, 2012 at 2:18 pm

This is a fairly common response. "If I was there with my gun, I would have taken this dude out". Not very likely. First, assuming you're a responsible gun owner, why would you take your gun with you to a midnight movie of Batman? If you did take your gun, can you really be considered "responsible'? Shit like this is an anomaly. You're more likely to get killed by grizzly than to encounter a crazed gunmen in a movie theater. Unless you're planning on setting bear traps along your commute route, please leave your gun at home when you go to the movies.

didgen July 20, 2012 at 2:33 pm

I believe that I am going to extend you the courtesy of believing that you have simply not thought that through well.

Dildeaux July 20, 2012 at 2:54 pm

You will not be warmly recieved, since your opinions are pure shit.

Dark theatre. Smoke. Patrons with guns. This aint my America.

Antispandex July 20, 2012 at 3:35 pm

I sure didn't mean to upset everyone so much. I guess the correct answer was probably' " Damn, I guess the best thing to do is just dive on the floor and cower whilst hoping to not get shot…dead", but I'm not a pacifist leftist. I don't believe "I have a dream" does as much good as "by any means necessary".

miss_grundy July 20, 2012 at 3:48 pm

Not even "probably". Unless you were wearing a full oxygen mask, your eyes would be tearing, which means you wouldn't be able to see well, in a darkened, smoke-filled auditorium. You would have severely wounded or killed innocent strangers, just like the doofus who committed this crime. Playing cowboy at the OK Corral is not the answer.

native11211 July 20, 2012 at 8:08 pm

Your macho fantasy scenario never seems to work the way it does in your daydreams: http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-01-02/news/3

fuflans July 20, 2012 at 8:17 pm

actually as an over educated effete urban artist, i would totally dive on the floor.

probably whimper too.

but i actually understand your point. i just can't imagine the logistics (effete urban artist, etc.)

miss_grundy July 20, 2012 at 3:40 pm

That would have been hard to do in a smoke-filled, darkened theater. More people would have died and would have been injured. Frankly, I'm tired of the whole cowboy mythology.

keinsignal July 20, 2012 at 5:41 pm

While we're puncturing this fantasy scenario, I should point out that the shooter apparently *expected* there to be other people there with guns, as he was wearing body armor. So even if some gun owner had brought their gun to a crowded theater, and was able to successfully unholster and aim it in the midst of the chaos and smoke, even *then* he might not have been able to stop the guy.

noodlesalad July 20, 2012 at 7:57 pm

Your facts, they are useless on this one, my friend.

Antispandex July 20, 2012 at 10:37 pm

I'll just say this one last thing on the subject. It is perfectly fine if you are a coward. It is an absolutely legitimate survival strategy. However, I believe this is what is wrong with the so called "left" in this country. If it comes to a fight, you are nowhere to be found. We used to face down bullets with brickbats, but when I was in the service of this country (and not as a keyboard commando, but where they shot at you), I was really lonely looking for people who shared my political views. We used to say stuff like, "By any means necessary". Not any more, I guess.

redarmyzombie July 21, 2012 at 3:55 am

Okay, I've been holding my tongue this entire time to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you know what? Fuck you, shithead. Fuck you and the self righteous high horse you rode in on. It's people like you who give gun owners a bad name in these parts. And yes, I've fired guns, I plan to own them (with a permit to carry them) and the only thing holding me back are financial considerations. I also happen to be a martial artist, with knowledge of how to kill a man with my bare fists. I pray, pray, pray to god I will NEVER have to use one or the other, but that is a matter strictly outside of my hands.

And in regards to this whole tragedy, this was in Colorado, where there effectively is no real bar to packing heat, and the lunatic who planned this a) chose a spot with relatively high density in terms of patronage, b) set off canisters of tear gas in a dark room with a loud action movie blaring, and c) was wearing Kevlar body armour, tactical camouflage, and a gas mask to give him unobscured vision. So why don't you chew on THAT for a bit the next time you open your flap.

Oh, and once again: fuck you, you slimy piece of shit.

actor212 July 23, 2012 at 10:28 am

"By any means necessary" implies there's a meaning to be gained by dying.

Standing up in a chaotic movie theatre and firing blindly seems to have no meaning to me.

actor212 July 20, 2012 at 1:38 pm

One of the victims was also at another theatre shooting earlier this year in Ontario, Canada.

CapeClod July 20, 2012 at 1:59 pm

She was in the food court at a mall and spontainiously decided to leave seconds before a gunman entered and opened up on the crowd. Deadspin has a story on her.
http://deadspin.com/5927673/aspiring-sportscaster

actor212 July 20, 2012 at 2:10 pm

OK, so "theatre" was a slight mismatch…

CapeClod July 20, 2012 at 3:00 pm

I take your point. She was miraculously spared being the victim of one shooting spree only to be the victim in another. As if this whole business wasn't depressing enough.

Hammiepants July 20, 2012 at 1:39 pm

These fucking assholes. All they can think to do is scramble to capitalize politically on a freaking massacre of innocents. They all ought to be horsewhipped. You can't appeal to their sense of shame, they're missing a freaking humanity gene.

bumfug July 20, 2012 at 1:39 pm

As soon as I heard about this I got pissed because this is the exact same shit that drives me nuts when the insane-right media (looking at you, WND) does it. Fuckin'-A fire him.

ColHeightsChic July 20, 2012 at 1:39 pm

Dear F*cktard Gohmert: Please leave my Hebrew brethren out of this! I'd appreciate it if you drop all reference to my people from your batshit crazy "Judeo-Christian" rants. Amen.

AbandonHope July 20, 2012 at 2:04 pm

Remember, "Judeo-Christian" means "Evangelical Christian, plus we need those filthy Christ-killers to bring about the End of Days".

Hope this helps.

sullivanst July 20, 2012 at 2:26 pm

"Also, they're useful idiots in our war on Mooozlims"

Chet Kincaid July 20, 2012 at 2:28 pm

Who's saying this, the Fundies or the Hebraics?

sullivanst July 20, 2012 at 2:38 pm

Yes.

Lionel[redacted]Esq July 20, 2012 at 1:39 pm

Still, can anyone argue that this isn't Barack Obama's fault? Or was inspired by the plank in the Democratic platform calling for the "Massacre of anything related to Bain/Bane"?

OzoneTom July 20, 2012 at 1:40 pm

Is it even possible to libel the Tea Party?

sharethegrief July 20, 2012 at 1:48 pm

Bravo!

Lionel[redacted]Esq July 20, 2012 at 1:48 pm

No, not really.

Guppy July 20, 2012 at 2:44 pm

It is if you work for Disney!

Maman July 20, 2012 at 1:40 pm

Well, it sure as hell doesn't help that Rush Limbaugh already described the movie as a liberal plot. I have to admit that it was my first thought that some ditto head was shooting up the theater to protect the nation.

Wadisay July 20, 2012 at 1:41 pm

No doubt Mitt Romney is thinking maybe this is a pretty good time to release his tax returns.

grex1949 July 20, 2012 at 3:33 pm

I was expecting that to happen at the end of the day today, anyway.

Lionel[redacted]Esq July 20, 2012 at 1:41 pm

I always hate events like this. Nothing else on the news but the same few facts over and over again. There should be a requirement that everyone hold their breath for 24 hours until people can actually digest all the information. Then we should let the ridiculous political charges fly, like always.

Chet Kincaid July 20, 2012 at 2:13 pm

Here here.

Joshua Norton July 20, 2012 at 1:41 pm

Breitbart News? Breitbart Fracking NEWS??????

Delusions of grandeur much?

Eric_T_Duckman July 20, 2012 at 1:41 pm

The Breitbart article was clearly trying to make a point about how irresponsible it is to put out information about a suspect without fully checking the facts and, though I hate to say this, they were right. There are enough cases in which the folks at Breitbart were actually being dicks that you didn't need to manufacture this one.

Oblios_Cap July 20, 2012 at 1:58 pm

I think you're giving them too much credit for having the ability to actually "make a point".

pdiddycornchips July 20, 2012 at 2:26 pm

Yeah fuck that. Breitbart had no problem posting every bullshit, selectively edited video and outright lie from his rent boy O'Keefe. They don't mind bullshit if it's in service to their agenda.

pdiddycornchips July 20, 2012 at 2:30 pm

Okay, why was my comment deleted by the administrator? We're going to pretend Breitbart is a respectable news source now?

redarmyzombie July 20, 2012 at 4:46 pm

Nah, more likely it was a glitch in the Matrix.

IceCreamEmpress July 20, 2012 at 2:36 pm

So they then did the same thing as Brian Ross as a joke? Are you fucking kidding me? None of those assclowns have a sense of humor.

Dildeaux July 20, 2012 at 2:56 pm

Then breitbrats turn around and do the same fucking thing. No need to defend them.

weejee July 20, 2012 at 1:42 pm

FUCK the NRA.

none asterisk, sorry policed readers

Guppy July 20, 2012 at 2:44 pm

Nah, the tear gas, et al, seems a bit outside their purview. Smells more like GOA.

Goonemeritus July 20, 2012 at 1:42 pm

I think this could become a teachable moment if we as a nation were teachable. Sadly we are not.

Not_So_Much July 20, 2012 at 1:43 pm

Louis fucking Gohmert — I got nothing.

BaldarTFlagass July 20, 2012 at 1:43 pm

I guess it's probably too soon to ask whether the movie is any good.

miss_grundy July 20, 2012 at 4:00 pm

The movie is awesome. I just got back from the theater a little while ago. It is a great end to Nolan's trilogy. I hope all of you, who want to see it, have the chance this weekend.

Barrelhse July 20, 2012 at 6:15 pm

Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, ….

fuflans July 20, 2012 at 8:18 pm

supposed to be but it's never going to have to worry about that.

sadly.

mookwrthwilson July 20, 2012 at 1:45 pm

Hey Breitbart…keep fucking that chicken…

Mittens Howell, III July 20, 2012 at 1:46 pm

I'm sure they checked for the suspect's political records before considering their mental health records.

SayItWithWookies July 20, 2012 at 1:46 pm

Glenn Dreck handled Brian Ross' outrageous allegation the proper way this morning — by saying, "If anything, the shooter would be an Occupy person, because those are the protesters in the movie." Proving that there is no instance of egregious laziness that can't be made worse by egregious utter stupidity.

And my condolences to the victims and their families. And sorry that you have to experience all the idiots jumping on their various hobbyhorses before anyone knows anything.

KeepFnThatChicken July 20, 2012 at 1:50 pm

What happened to his alleged murder victim's body again?

SayItWithWookies July 20, 2012 at 1:56 pm

The one he's never denied raping and murdering in the 1990s? I can't remember — shallow grave, dumpster — that sort of thing, probably.

Lionel[redacted]Esq July 20, 2012 at 2:43 pm

I thought he dumper her in Puget Sound with his mother.

KeepFnThatChicken July 20, 2012 at 4:06 pm

If it was a water dumping, I guess he allegedly defiled her body by having sex with her corpse first…?

Chet Kincaid July 20, 2012 at 2:16 pm

Re: Beck — I told you so.

danielwalldammit July 24, 2012 at 3:09 pm

The man certainly wins any race to the bottom. …pardon me; I called Beck a 'man'; what I meant to say was "festering bloodfart."

mavenmaven July 20, 2012 at 1:47 pm

The release of the killer in Bulgaria from Gitmo was initially widely circulated in the right wing press, until it became clear that Bush released him. Then it became just "liberals" who were responsible.
Same will happen here. And if they find that Holmes read Mein Kampf, they will say that shows he's a socialist.

x111e7thst July 20, 2012 at 1:47 pm

Memo to Goobert or whatever his name is: Increasing the number of guns being fired in random directions in a darkened movie theater is unlikely to reduce the number of casualties.

C_R_Eature July 20, 2012 at 1:47 pm

Goodness Gracious my grandma used to say
The world's a scary place now,
things were different in her day
What horrors will be commonplace
when my hair starts to gray?

- Kevin Gilbert

Well, now we know.

shelwood46 July 20, 2012 at 6:26 pm

God, I love that album.

C_R_Eature July 20, 2012 at 6:40 pm

Yeah me too, thanks. Another fellow we lost too soon.

freakishlywrong July 20, 2012 at 1:47 pm

The whole thing is a fucking disgrace to the nation. We're an embarrassment. And sad. Very, very sad.

JustPixelz July 20, 2012 at 1:47 pm

Louis Gohmert is waaaay ahead of ABC news on this.

People say… where was God in all of this? … Was there nobody that was carrying a gun that could have stopped this guy more quickly?

Exactly! Where was George Zimmerman? Unless this shooting was another of God's plans. Time to amend the Ten Commandments: Thou shalt be packing.

IncenseDebate July 20, 2012 at 1:51 pm

If God wanted to take the shooter out he would have. So, God was all for letting it happen. Part of his plan.

Hammiepants July 20, 2012 at 1:53 pm

I cannot believe that people are saying, "see, if only one person had been armed, this wouldn't have happened!" Yes, because a pitched gun battle between TWO armed dudes would have had a MUCH lower body count! Assclowns.

imissopus July 20, 2012 at 2:01 pm

In a dark, crowded theater where the first gunman had reportedly set off a tear gas canister before he opened fire. Yup, nothing bad could come of that.

Lionel[redacted]Esq July 20, 2012 at 1:56 pm

The question is: Why does God hate America so?

Or, why doe s/he hate the unarmed so?

Oblios_Cap July 20, 2012 at 1:59 pm

I'm beginning to think that maybe this "God" fellow is somewhat of a prick.

miss_grundy July 20, 2012 at 4:04 pm

No, the question is: Why do Americans hate America? Because they love being the laughing stock of the world. No wonder people in other countries think America is filled with cowboys and mobsters: because of our pornographic love of guns.

johnnyzhivago July 20, 2012 at 1:48 pm

ABC is looking back in it's files now since suspicion is building about Osama Bin Laden of Arabia, Adolf Hitler of Europe and Attila the Hun of Hungary.

Chill_Bill July 20, 2012 at 1:49 pm

No snark here. What a fucked up country we live in.

IncenseDebate July 20, 2012 at 1:56 pm

A hard rain is gonna fall.

sullivanst July 20, 2012 at 2:30 pm

Seems like hail.

Blunderthing July 20, 2012 at 1:49 pm

Let's not talk about the real problem which is TOO MANY FUCKING GUNS IN A NUT CASE NATION. Oops. Was that my common sense voice?

KeepFnThatChicken July 20, 2012 at 1:50 pm

I would apologize to humanity on behalf of God, but the belief that he exists probably exacerbated things along the way.

My heart goes out to all fifty people who were harmed directly by this horrible human. People of the world, humans can be basically good, despite current evidence.

mavenmaven July 20, 2012 at 1:50 pm

Can you believe this? Breitbart's new headline: "James Holmes Could Be Registered Democrat – UPDATE: Not Registered?"
in other words, "democrat" until proven otherwise, despite the absence of any information.

AbandonHope July 20, 2012 at 1:58 pm

I can totally believe it. But I think that we all know that the shooter was allegedly working clandestinely for a cabal consisting of Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, and Ann Coulter.

I snark because I have to. My brain can't process the concept of a dozen people dying simply because they were so excited to see a new superhero film. What an utterly pointless world.

Generation[redacted] July 20, 2012 at 2:57 pm

Maybe he couldn't get to the ID office the 4 days a year when it's open.

danielwalldammit July 24, 2012 at 3:07 pm

Whatever it takes! And heaven forbid that anyone call these puddles of pig puss on their shameless bullshit.

Lionel[redacted]Esq July 20, 2012 at 1:50 pm

Come on, the guy dropped out of med school. Clearly this is the result of the Affordable Care Act (cue Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity picking up this thread in 3, 2, 1….)

Generation[redacted] July 20, 2012 at 1:50 pm

Brian Ross and his BLOTTER INVESTIGATIVE TEAM

I prefer Wonkette's blotto investigative team.

actor212 July 20, 2012 at 1:55 pm

"Tomorrow's top story: How alcohol affects blogging"

IncenseDebate July 20, 2012 at 2:00 pm

I'm more concerned with how blogging affects alcohol.

actor212 July 20, 2012 at 2:01 pm

QUIT JUDSHING USH! *hic*

BaldarTFlagass July 20, 2012 at 1:57 pm

Blotto was also a pretty cool band.

IncenseDebate July 20, 2012 at 2:00 pm

Yes they were!!

imissopus July 20, 2012 at 1:51 pm

Everyone is terrible. Except you, Wonkette. Fuck Brian Ross.

IncenseDebate July 20, 2012 at 2:01 pm

Wonkette is my most trusted news source.

anniegetyerfun July 20, 2012 at 1:52 pm

Jeez, I can't stand Tea Partiers either, but I generally assume that they are too fat to get out of their houses and shoot a bunch of people.

imissopus July 20, 2012 at 2:03 pm

Or that their fingers are too fat to fit inside the trigger guard.

sullivanst July 20, 2012 at 2:32 pm

Hoverounds not an ideal tactical platform.

redarmyzombie July 20, 2012 at 5:02 pm

Too fat, and too cowardly.

EDIT: also, weird that my comment comes above the one by imissopus, even though he commented first.

Editrix? Are you taking note of this?

IncenseDebate July 20, 2012 at 1:53 pm

It's not violent enough.

AbandonHope July 20, 2012 at 1:54 pm

The difference being that ABC News probably made the mistake out of sheer incompetence, whereas Breitbart probably did it on purpose, and then "hastily" "retracted" the "error".

ChernobylSoup July 20, 2012 at 1:54 pm

Aurora mayor Steve Hogan seems like a good man; anyone know much about him?

EDIT: Just saying he came across very well in the briefing just now.

CapeClod July 20, 2012 at 1:55 pm

I think the Tucson shootings proved that the poltics of the batshit crazy gunman doesn't really have anything to do with how fucked up the are. Obviously, Brian Ross didn't learn that lesson.

TribecaMike July 20, 2012 at 1:57 pm

Brian Ross is also reporting that the Higgs boson discovery was just a passing truck.

johnnyzhivago July 20, 2012 at 1:59 pm

No comment from Sarah Palin yet? America waits.

KeepFnThatChicken July 20, 2012 at 3:59 pm

Heard from her grandson. Called his momma a faggot.

StealthMuslin July 20, 2012 at 1:59 pm

All involved should be strapped into chairs facing "The Newsroom" on a jumbotron and Ludovico Techniqued until their brains fall out.

elburritodeluxe July 20, 2012 at 2:00 pm

Please, Jon Stewart, kick the shit out of this guy metaphorically.

KeepFnThatChicken July 20, 2012 at 4:00 pm

Order of operations. Gohmert first, NRA second, reporter third.

DailyGrumbles July 20, 2012 at 2:01 pm

A Congresswoman was shot point blank and NO LAWS were passed. STFU about this being "Politicized"

Chet Kincaid July 20, 2012 at 2:02 pm

You can be sure "Newsroom" will sanctimoniously condemn all this in 2 years!!

not that Dewey July 20, 2012 at 2:12 pm

Well, they just fired all of their writers, so it may be even longer.

Chet Kincaid July 20, 2012 at 2:22 pm

Apparently, Sorkin writers don't write — they bounce ideas around for Sorkin and research them, and then he puts them in his Overused Trope Machine and extrudes the scripts.

Poindexter718 July 20, 2012 at 2:04 pm

The state of the Fourth Estate is just appalling. This never would have happened back in the days of the Dewey Administration.

sullivanst July 20, 2012 at 2:09 pm

I vote we steal Mitt's time machine and retroactively retire Ted Turner in 1979.

This attitude of being too desperate to get the scoop to ever pause to check anything is really destructive. I also blame the Chicago Tribune.

Chet Kincaid July 20, 2012 at 2:24 pm

Why the Tribune? Nobody reads that but me and the wife. Our subscription is $2 million for 52 weeks.

sullivanst July 20, 2012 at 2:33 pm

"Dewey Defeats Truman"

mrblifil July 20, 2012 at 2:10 pm

After a lifetime of such stories I can tell you this. Nobody in America gives a crap when someone else is the person being shot. And the next few Colorado politicians from that area and on up the state and federal hierarchy will be elected on the basis of their strong support of 2nd Amendment rights and their love of hunting.

AbandonHope July 20, 2012 at 2:14 pm

I'll do you one better: the next few Colorado politicians will probably campaign heavily on the whole "if other people in the theater had been armed the shooter would've been dispatched easily" argument, and win in landslides.

Because we are fucking morons.

Chet Kincaid July 20, 2012 at 2:27 pm

"I propose that all Colorado movie theaters be equipped with plain-clothes Federal Marshalls and ball-turrett gunners in the ceiling!!" (Applause)

johnnymeatworth July 20, 2012 at 2:11 pm

Has Michele Bachman blamed any Islamists yet?

labman57 July 20, 2012 at 2:12 pm

It's a byproduct of the Internet Age — far too many reporters/journalists/bloggers want to beat everyone else to "the story", and hence the tendency to take rumor mill, unverified reports, and wild speculation and present them to the public as the result of "investigative reporting".

Until a thorough investigation has been done, it would be premature to speculate on the motivations of this deranged individual that led to this horrific act.

TribecaMike July 20, 2012 at 2:13 pm

According to Wikipedia, "In 2008, Aurora was designated an All-America City by the National Civic League." It sure is.

schvitzatura July 20, 2012 at 2:19 pm

The price of movie theater facility security will assuredly be $20 popcorn, $12 high-fructose corn syrup soft drinks, and $30 3D features. AMC, Lowes, and the rest will have "security amenities", as attendance at any future summer blockbuster-type movie is now viewed the same as getting on an airplane following 9/11 for the first few months. Same-day DVD and streaming will eclipse brick-and-mortar attendance; all the stadium seating wonders with THX and cushy seats have become a risk to one's well-being.

Prediction:

The Well-Digger's Daughter will have 1st weekend boffo box office, as disgruntled, testosterone-addled males would never consider this for their swan song rampage of gun-play, right?

AbandonHope July 20, 2012 at 2:31 pm

Nah, we'll just get a new "Entertainment Safety Agency," tasked with maintaining the long lines of security we'll have to endure before entering a movie theater.

emmelemm July 20, 2012 at 2:34 pm

You'll have to get to the movie theater 2 hours before your showing…

AbandonHope July 20, 2012 at 2:48 pm

Actually, if they ran the ads during the screening process, they'd be killing two birds with one bullet.

anniegetyerfun July 20, 2012 at 2:23 pm

This is just one more reason for me to argue in favor of waiting to watch movies when they come out on Netflix. Not so much about my life being in peril, as not wanting to be covered on the news by these douchebags SHOULD I be killed.

valthemus July 20, 2012 at 2:44 pm

But it's network news… being first is SO much cooler than being accurate!

owhatever July 20, 2012 at 2:53 pm

Ross has stepped in it one time too many. Fire his scrawny ass. Any professional journalister who tried to "cover" the news by the Internetz is a lazy creep. It ain't the most reliable source for truth. I Google and Tweet, therefore I am.

Dildeaux July 20, 2012 at 2:59 pm

Fuck this. Im going back to bed with a fifth of vodka.

proudgrampa July 20, 2012 at 3:27 pm

Brian Ross needs to go. He's an idiot.

Jerri July 20, 2012 at 3:28 pm

Diane Sawyer (whose face-acting….I mean concerned and compassionate reporting…I am forced to watch at the gym) is going to be fucking insufferable tonight, even with the TV mercifully on mute.

EBGrey July 20, 2012 at 3:37 pm

When did people get so f@cking stupid?

An_Outhouse July 20, 2012 at 3:41 pm

Its like they're rewarded for it now. The company probably thinks it benefits them because they'll get free mentions via "Brian Ross, incompetent douche bag who works for ABC".

Antispandex July 20, 2012 at 3:48 pm

So…dive on the floor and cower. Got it.

noodlesalad July 20, 2012 at 7:57 pm

Beats shooting a 6 year-old by mistake, asswipe. If you want to play hero, move to Somalia. This isn't the 19th century anymore.

Antispandex July 20, 2012 at 9:15 pm

Any excuse to be gutless. Got it.

redarmyzombie July 21, 2012 at 3:33 am

You know, hate to raise a dead thread back to life, but being petulant doesn't help your argument.

mcrummett July 20, 2012 at 4:17 pm

"…properly vetted." How quaint.

TribecaMike July 20, 2012 at 5:07 pm

The National Rifle Association responds: "Like Rick Santorum says, 'Guns don't kill people, going to college does.""

ttommyunger July 20, 2012 at 5:20 pm

We already have free refills for popcorn and drinks at the movies. I guess we're headed for free reloads of ammo next, amirite? USA,USA!

bobbert July 22, 2012 at 12:57 am

"Will that be the drum magazine, sir?"

ttommyunger July 22, 2012 at 6:47 am

Win!Sent from my iPhone

Veritas78 July 20, 2012 at 6:37 pm

The only shocking part is that this doesn't happen at least once a week, given our collective firepower and abandonment of the the mentally ill. So actually we're quite self-restrained.

And no one will suggest that we try anything different, just like after the Giffords shooting.

rocktonsam July 20, 2012 at 10:44 pm

indeed.

while Cantor, Bohner and Mitten$ head for the bunker. That is where the cash is that the NRA left. pussies and opportunists blood money for blood suckers

redarmyzombie July 21, 2012 at 4:02 am

Fuck, this whole thing is depressing.

Pbizzel July 21, 2012 at 3:11 pm

Is there a reason @ABC has not explained why they won't @FireBrianRoss? The media needs to be held accountable for these actions. Reckless actions like these only move to divide Americans from one another. They should be ashamed of themselves. @PBizzel

danielwalldammit July 24, 2012 at 3:07 pm

Lol, Breitbart. Fucking idiots!

Lionel[redacted]Esq July 20, 2012 at 2:35 pm

Time to dig out the Harry Chapin. Sniper and other Love Songs has more to say about this than we'll hear from anyone else today.

NellCote71 July 20, 2012 at 5:35 pm

Wow. Good recall.

Chet Kincaid July 20, 2012 at 2:39 pm

Thank you for not AOTKing!

sullivanst July 20, 2012 at 2:42 pm

"Shall issue" state.

Lionel[redacted]Esq July 20, 2012 at 4:26 pm

His mother, or the girl he has never denied raping and murdering?

redarmyzombie July 20, 2012 at 4:54 pm

All of them, Katie.

Antispandex July 21, 2012 at 1:15 pm

WOW! You've fired a gun! Yeah! Have you ever defended anyone else , besides yourself? That IS what "martial artists" like you do, right? I can tell by your intelligent discourse that you were probably "ex-military" too, right? No, didn't think so. You are the type of coward I'm talking about, and you are a liar without honor. Sure you can pretend to be Jet Li, from behind your keyboard, but when it comes to risking something we won't be able to find you. Not enough money for a gun? What are you 12? You aren't a "martial artist " you are a foul mouthed, chest thumping, wannabe. I HAVE defended my country, and by extention, you, so you could sit there at your computer and pretend to be what you aren't and call me names because I refuse to be a coward like you. You're welcome.

redarmyzombie July 22, 2012 at 3:40 am

Well, let's see: You a) made an astoundingly ignorant comment about a horrific tragedy, b) showed callous disregard for people who were wounded and lost their lives, and c) continued spouting ignorance in order to defend your original, and still wrong, comment. Oh, and rather than actually address the points that were raised you resorted to passive-aggressive ad hominem attacks against an entire segment of society, in lieu of attempting to rationally explain your position or admitting that maybe, just maybe, you spoke a little hastily. And no, Mr. spandex, I'm not a liar; you only wish I were because in your eyes that would somehow magically validate your ignorant, and still wrong, position.

So no, shithead, you're the one masturbating to your overinflated ego here, and you're acting like a petulant child throwing a tantrum because no one wants to play Cowboys and Indians in your little fantasy dreamland.

Oh, and next time, try not projecting onto other people when you try to insult them, because I'm not Jet Li, or John Wayne, or Chuck Norris, or whatever piece of movie fiction you wish you were. So once again, fuck you and the self-righteous high horse you rode in on.

Have a nice day.

P.S. And when you do try and play hero in a shopping mall, do try not to get anyone else killed in your narcissistic fantasy.

redarmyzombie July 22, 2012 at 4:57 am

Ok…after having a moments contemplation, I would like to apologize for my earlier comments. It was not only wrong of me to insult you, it was juvenile, and for that I am sorry. I will confess, I have a terrible temper when my wrath is invoked, and I should have known better than to react in the way I did.

As for my earlier reply to you, I will also admit it was wrong for me to say what I said there as well. I won't delete it, the reason being that those were my words, and deleting them would feel disingenuous to me. I said that, and for that I am sorry. It was wrong of me.

I don't expect you to accept my apology; I do not say that to be passive-aggressive and snide, but because what I said was hurtful and unwarranted. I will say I made those comments in the heat of passion, but that still does not excuse what I said.

For the record, I really, truly, do sincerely hope that you enjoy your day, and I am sorry for what I said.

Antispandex July 22, 2012 at 12:09 pm

The point you will never understand, and perhaps are not capable of understanding, is that there is risk to self defense, but there is no advantage to passivity. If you act in a dangerous situation to try to stop aggression, you and others MAY die. If you do nothing, you, and others, will SURELY die. It isn't that I haven't thought this out, it is that I have seen it in practice. It isn't my fantasy to have seen people killed in combat. I wish it were. I won't sit still and have anyone shoot at me without try to stop them. I did think of the fact this guy was wearing body armor. Have you ever seen someone with body armor get hit? It isn't like a video game. It still hurts, can break bones, can be momentarily disabling, giving you a *chance*. Yes, I admit, it's only a chance, but sitting there, or lying there, and getting shot along with others isn't how I would chose to deal with it. If it is how you would deal with it, it is probably best that you don't try to help anyone or even yourself. Just don't judge people so harshly if they don't care to join you.

redarmyzombie July 22, 2012 at 4:43 pm

Once again, I spoke in extreme haste and passion, and it was wrong of me; for that I apologize.

And I understand the point you were trying to make. Body armor may stop the bullet, but it doesn't stop the momentum of an object traveling faster than the speed of sound, I get that too. But I also accept that the conditions in the attack would have made it more likely that someone else would have gotten hurt instead. Unfortunately, sometimes the best course of action is to do nothing. As bitter as that may sound, involvement has as much potential to do harm as it does to do good, and at the end of the day, That is how I base my decisions: will my actions do good, or will they do harm instead? Whatever the outcome, I must live with the decisions I make, for better or for worse. That is my position, and that is the way I think.

And once again, it was wrong of me to judge you as harshly as I did, and I apologize.

Oblios_Cap July 23, 2012 at 1:21 pm

It does if you're some chickenhawk asshat. I was always taught that discretion is the better part of valor. in fact, in the service they trained us to try to get away first and only fight in this sort of setting if there no other recourse.

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