WALNUTS IS GONNA LOSE IT  6:16 pm July 16, 2012

The Latest End of America: No Urinals On Navy’s New Gender-Neutral Carriers

by Jim Newell

Such an old boys' clubThe Navy has a new class of aircraft carriers coming out! The new versions still have runways for planes and still float on the sea and are still big old boats. Beyond that, however, these new ones are decidedly liberal aircraft carriers. For the first time, the bathrooms won’t feature urinals. Women have served on combat ships since 1994 and, well, maybe at this point it would be easier to put in toilets that everyone can use in the new fleet’s bathrooms, the deciders decided. Just aim a few degrees lower, boys, then hit flush, and it’s not so bad. Just kidding, it’s officially the end of America again.

If you didn’t think this change was all that big a deal, then fuck you. It seems the military folks upset with this change are deeply unsure of their ability to lift a toilet seat and pee in a toilet without dousing the entire bathroom in urine. Via the Atlantic Wire:

“Navy is getting way too politically correct,” wrote Steve Mcgaha in a thread on The Navy Times, an independent news source for sailors and their families. “Let’s get back to projecting sea power … and get rid of the NANNY NAVY.” Others were worried about the logistical implications. “Great. As if there weren’t enough pissed-on toilet seats on Aircraft Carriers,” wrote Matt Metz on the same Navy Times thread. “I guess actual warfighting is pretty low on the list in today’s big bucks, PC, diversity is our strength … Navy,” wrote Orville Seybert. In perhaps the most novel argument, Navy vet Timothy Ritchie argued that urinals aren’t actually gender-specific. “In Europe all gender-neutral bathrooms have urinals. It is a matter of sanitation. And believe it or not even a female can use a properly placed urinal with a bit of practice.”

The CNN.com article on this has 900+ comments of people describing how they go to the bathroom.

…Well, have you finished reading them all yet?

[Atlantic Wire]

 
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Dashboard Buddha July 16, 2012 at 6:19 pm

Patriots know how to aim you lazy fucks.

Designer_Rants July 16, 2012 at 8:08 pm

Does the NANNY NAVY make house calls? I made a boom boom.

mwittier July 18, 2012 at 3:33 am

As a lazy fuck, I will not be aimed, by Patriots, or anyone else.

[My excessive use of commas compensates for the change in meaning resulting from your missing comma.]

CapnRadio July 16, 2012 at 6:20 pm

AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO ALL THOSE TASTY URINAL CAKES‽

mrpuma2u July 16, 2012 at 7:43 pm

Can't use those, on board naval vessels they run salt water in the bowl. (recovering Navy vet)

Negropolis July 17, 2012 at 1:16 am

"Let them eat urinal cake."

- Barack Antoinette

Hey, how was my impersonation of a wingnut?

kittensdontlie July 17, 2012 at 9:31 am

Nice. We would need BA to let his hair grow out and comb in some fancy hairdos to complete this chain letter fantasy in wingnut style.

mwittier July 18, 2012 at 3:34 am

Less of the diabeetus.

LetUsBray July 16, 2012 at 6:21 pm

They're at sea; can't they just whizz off the side of the boat?

Fare la Volpe July 16, 2012 at 6:53 pm

They're the navy — too busy whizzing into each other's mouths.

BaldarTFlagass July 17, 2012 at 7:45 am

I was standing watch in Damage Control Central one night and read the Captain's Night Orders, learned we were going to be steaming across the equator at appx 0044 hours. I drank a bunch of soda when I got off watch at midnight and held it, then went up on the flight deck and took a nice looooong piss off the fantail at the appropriate time. I don't know which is the prouder accomplishment in my life: spitting into the Grand Canyon or pissing across the equator; I'll probably have to go with the latter.

Gopherit July 16, 2012 at 6:21 pm

It's like the good old days of the Cold War with tuck-and-cover.

majicunderwear July 16, 2012 at 6:22 pm

Fox and friends will be all over this one….Urinal Libel!

CapnRadio July 16, 2012 at 6:22 pm

Well, this will certainly tarnish the manly image the navy holds in our culture.

coolhandnuke July 16, 2012 at 7:13 pm

Indeed. My image of the Incredible Mr. Limpet will never be the same.

mwittier July 18, 2012 at 3:35 am

"YOU CAN THAIL THE THEVEN THEATHE…"

-the Village Corporations

coolhandnuke July 16, 2012 at 6:22 pm

As long as the toilet seats don't cost $89,000, I see nothing to be pissed about.

BloviateMe July 16, 2012 at 6:23 pm

We're now a tampon dispenser away from complete mutiny. Thanks libtards.

emmelemm July 16, 2012 at 6:34 pm

Ay carumba, can you imagine?

Hammiepants July 16, 2012 at 6:26 pm

I'll bet these girlyman toilets were made in CHINA! Fuck you, beret-making noodle-sucking yellow COMMIES!

weejee July 16, 2012 at 6:27 pm

Some may think this is a pisser, but hey this is the new wide-stance Navy we're talking about here. They'll be launching a new mine sweeper the USS Larry Craig in 3, 2, 1…

PubOption July 16, 2012 at 7:39 pm

How often will they play "Taps"?

WhatTheHeck July 16, 2012 at 6:28 pm

No wonder. It’s the suggestion of the Secretary of the Navee. Right?
I can’t wait to hear the Rear Admiral’s suggestion.

ManchuCandidate July 16, 2012 at 6:28 pm

Seems like wingnuts are trying to make a tidal wave out of a pisspot.

Antispandex July 16, 2012 at 7:35 pm

Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin'?

JohnyEdge July 16, 2012 at 6:30 pm

I'm just going to wait until a helpful Wonker condenses all 900 comments into one simple post with instructions.

It will be a serve to humankind.

GeorgiaBurning July 16, 2012 at 6:33 pm

Captains' mast for leaving the seat up?

rickmaci July 16, 2012 at 7:57 pm

Keel hauled if the Skipper is a woman.

Dashboard Buddha July 16, 2012 at 8:14 pm

Only if it falls on the captain's mast.

smokefilledroommate July 16, 2012 at 6:34 pm

You can avoid all the liberalism by simply pissing in your fucking pants, crybaby.

bumfug July 16, 2012 at 6:34 pm

The assholes that are whining about something this minor need a fucking nanny.

Designer_Rants July 16, 2012 at 8:12 pm

Oh, they're just upset 'cause they missed their nappy. So cranky! *wink* ~NANNY NAVY

emmelemm July 16, 2012 at 6:36 pm

The header photo is so perfect, I can't even…

Lionel[redacted]Esq July 16, 2012 at 7:06 pm

finish a sentence?

starfanglednut July 16, 2012 at 10:36 pm

What terms were entered into google images I can only imagine.

SorosBot July 16, 2012 at 6:40 pm

Let the navy go back to projecting sea power, so that we can fight all the naval threats the US faces, like um…

um…

…the aliens from Battleship?

vodkamuppet July 16, 2012 at 7:10 pm

No one ever expects the Spanish armada!

rickmaci July 16, 2012 at 7:58 pm

Talking about seamen and "projecting power" just sounds a tiny bit gay to me sailor.

vodkamuppet July 16, 2012 at 6:46 pm

Gender neutral glory holes or GTFO! I don't know how that would work but it only seems fair.

rickmaci July 16, 2012 at 8:24 pm

Probably will need a whole new concept for "hot bunking."

edgydrifter July 16, 2012 at 6:52 pm

Who cares? Modern urinals suck anyway. Long gone are the days of elegant, inviting floor-length urinals, resplendent porcelain cascades that accommodated men of all heights and celebrated their excretory functions equally. Monuments to the manly art of waste elimination they were! Now it's nothing but stupid goddamned wall-mounted back-splashing dick potties. Might as well pee in the sink.

HoytClagwell July 16, 2012 at 7:26 pm

Urinals on US Navy warships are especially horrid, since they are flushed with seawater. Combine that salty crust with the liquid excreta of 60+ sailors and you have nature's own urinal cake-in-reverse: it grows instead of shrinking and it adds to the stench instead of masking it.

edit to add: I should add that my personal experience is a few decades in the past, so for all I know the Fleet's urinals are pristine clean these days. Go Navy!

Antispandex July 16, 2012 at 7:38 pm

…and they flush themselves too. What's up with that? Just not enough time in the day to elbow bump the handle?

GhostBuggy July 16, 2012 at 11:13 pm

The University of Michigan stadium, aka the Big House, has these urinals that are basically the wall, corner to corner, with water running down them. There's a channel running along the floor/wall edge to catch it. It's either the best thing ever or the worst.

BaldarTFlagass July 17, 2012 at 7:48 am

"Might as well pee in the sink."

Don't go off thinking that doesn't happen. A lot.

Callyson July 16, 2012 at 6:53 pm

I had a (male) classmate who thought it was amusing to use his camera phone and secretly snap photos of the profs at the urinals. No idea how he got away with it but he did…

PS: the big ones never belong to the men you would think would have a large member, and vice versa…

Butch_Wagstaff July 16, 2012 at 7:06 pm

Having seen a good number of them in my time, I know this to be true.

Spurning Beer July 16, 2012 at 10:18 pm

Are you a urologist, Butch? A sailor? A conservative Republican?

Fare la Volpe July 16, 2012 at 6:54 pm

Navy seamen universally reversed their opinion after realizing this meant more privacy stalls for bunkmate handy j's.

AncienReggie July 16, 2012 at 6:55 pm

Fellas, remember: Put the seat down after or you will NEVER hear the end of it.

starfanglednut July 16, 2012 at 10:37 pm

Damn straight.

TootsStansbury July 16, 2012 at 6:57 pm

I don't know about the Navy but it is customary on small boats at sea for the manly men to are you ready for this – SIT DOWN on the head to avoid pissing all over the place (if they aren't whizzing over the side, of course).

kittensdontlie July 17, 2012 at 9:50 am

Amen…and if these men are too manly for sitting, that sadly leaves castration as the only viable option…just kiddin'…I'm sure female hormone treatment for the gents will work just fine, but if not…

Hedley_Lamarr July 16, 2012 at 6:57 pm

Meh, they'll just continue to piss in the officers coffee mugs.

Doktor Zoom July 16, 2012 at 8:38 pm

Or the captain's strawberries.

Lionel[redacted]Esq July 16, 2012 at 7:08 pm

Given that the toilets are to be used by men, it doesn't really matter if you have urinals or not, as they will just piss all over them anyway.

MittBorg July 16, 2012 at 7:38 pm

Talk about a tempest in a, uh, never mind.

rickmaci July 16, 2012 at 8:01 pm

peapot?

MittBorg July 16, 2012 at 8:59 pm

Why not?

Antispandex July 16, 2012 at 7:08 pm

"And believe it or not even a female can use a properly placed urinal with a bit of practice.”

Now that's something I'd like to see. No, really, I'm kind of pervy that way. But, then again I was a fleet sailor, and I find the logistics of that interesting…and pervy.

HoytClagwell July 16, 2012 at 7:29 pm

Well, there are urinals and there are urinals.

starfanglednut July 16, 2012 at 10:39 pm

Gah! The shit you learn on wonket.

Nostrildamus July 16, 2012 at 7:33 pm

♫ In the navy
Yes, you can sail the seven seas
In the navy
Yes, you can stand there while you pees ♫

new_pic_for_NEWTer July 16, 2012 at 7:43 pm

It's all rum, sodomy and the lash, oh yeah and the urinals…

chascates July 16, 2012 at 7:42 pm

Just piss in the sink, that's what I do.

new_pic_for_NEWTer July 16, 2012 at 8:56 pm

I trust that you are a gentleman and remove the dirty dishes first…

Antispandex July 16, 2012 at 7:42 pm

Woke up this morning desperation A.M.
What I've been saying, won't say them again
My heads not empty, it's full with my brain
The thoughts I'm thinking like piss down a drain

Pragmatist2 July 16, 2012 at 8:03 pm

Whoa! "The CNN.com article on this has 900+ comments of people describing how they go to the bathroom."
How many ways can you say Depends?

johnnymeatworth July 16, 2012 at 8:09 pm

How many more soldiers killed by "friendly fire?"

DemmeFatale July 16, 2012 at 8:13 pm

As Aunt Dorothy used to say:
"We aim to please. You aim too, please!"

(Actually, I think it was embroidered on a Kleenex box cover.)

owhatever July 16, 2012 at 8:17 pm

You think you've got problems peeing now? Wait until the Chinese fleet, built with Wal-Mart dollars, heaves into view.

Chow Yun Flat July 16, 2012 at 8:21 pm

Is there anything that doesn't mean the end of the Amerikkka to these idiots?

rickmaci July 16, 2012 at 8:29 pm

Electing a white, male, 1%er as president?

TheGyrus July 16, 2012 at 8:31 pm

Seems to me we could circumvent this issue by not spending all our goddamn money on yet another new aircraft carrier.

rocktonsam July 16, 2012 at 8:32 pm

Mitten$ is waiting for an apology on this one too you guys, for Ronnie

Doktor Zoom July 16, 2012 at 8:34 pm

Martin Mull haz a sad.

mavenmaven July 16, 2012 at 8:41 pm

The navy lost a chance to accuracy train their sailors http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhcs_0uygXE

Doktor Zoom July 16, 2012 at 9:05 pm

That's… something, all right. I imagine it's only available for the Nintendo Wee…

DemmeFatale July 16, 2012 at 10:15 pm

What is it with toilets over there?
Wacky, man, wacky!

SayItWithWookies July 16, 2012 at 8:51 pm

What's the big deal? I'll bet most of the officers in the navy haven't peed standing up in years.

So Tired July 16, 2012 at 9:21 pm

Ok, kinda OT, but a sailor and GI take a piss in the latrine of the local bar. The GI starts to walk out of the restroom but the sailor stops to wash his hands. "Hey!" says the sailor, "In the Navy they teach us to wash our hands after we take a piss!" The GI looks over his shoulder on his way out the door and replies, "In the Army, they teach us not to piss on our fingers."

Stevola July 17, 2012 at 1:01 am

Ya got that backwards

Barrelhse July 16, 2012 at 9:35 pm

Could they have simply labeled the urinals " & bidet" and saved a few bucks?

deanbooth July 16, 2012 at 9:40 pm

Do I like pictures of bathrooms? Sadly, no!

redarmyzombie July 16, 2012 at 10:22 pm

Oh, wah, wah, wah!

Seriously. What a bunch of goddamned crybabies.

Stevola July 17, 2012 at 1:00 am

“Great. As if there weren’t enough pissed-on toilet seats on Aircraft Carriers,”

That's with urinals, right? What difference will it make? I'm a Navy vet and this means less than nothing to me.

lochnessmonster July 17, 2012 at 6:44 am

Males and females using the same bathroom? Oh my!

BaldarTFlagass July 17, 2012 at 7:49 am

That's why they have scuppers on ships.

WIDTAP July 17, 2012 at 8:14 am

Still beats the Chinese Navy, with the hole in the floor and the footprints for appropriate squat position.

An_Outhouse July 17, 2012 at 8:31 am

The bitches will be bitching when someone leaves pee on the seat.

johnnyzhivago July 17, 2012 at 8:36 am

Next thing you know the Navy is going to start requiring sailors to speak French and watch Lifetime.

LeAlbatross July 17, 2012 at 9:45 am

Having served on an aircraft carrier in heavy seas, this will be an improvement, I assure you. Mind you, mine was an all-male crew, back the day, and they couldn't aim sitting down, either.

Mapmonger July 17, 2012 at 10:08 am

I'm kinda having a 'Placemats moment about this: "Kewpie dolls and urine stalls will be laughed at the way you're laughed at now."

valthemus July 17, 2012 at 11:12 am

"The CNN.com article on this has 900+ comments of people describing how they go to the bathroom. "

One more argument against anonymous commenting.

DahBoner July 17, 2012 at 1:04 pm

But will female sailors learn to be considerate to male sailors and lift the seat afterwards???

ttommyunger July 17, 2012 at 7:13 pm

Remember to mention my name, Squids, to get a good seat.

Baba_NinjaCat12 July 17, 2012 at 7:31 pm

McCain would say, "Toughen up Sailors! When I had to go to the bathroom, I used a wooden bucket to defecate and pee over side of the galley."

mwittier July 18, 2012 at 3:43 am

" And believe it or not even a female can use a properly placed urinal with a bit of practice."

But apparently man-monkeys cannot be trained to use a toilet, despite likely decades of practice?

Also, "even a female"? That lowliest of low-intelligencers, the Female? And as for the IMPROPERLY placed urinal… what is this individual's thought process like? I picture a laundromat full of dryers, each drying a single, worn, tennis shoe, noisily and uselessly, as none of them make a pair.

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