ALSO MARGARET SANGER WAS A NAZI  10:15 am June 22, 2012

NC Senate To Victims Of Forced Sterilization: Too Bad, So Sad

by Doktor Zoom

There's no war on women, just surgical strikesHeroes of fiscal discipline in North Carolina have made an astonishing discovery: paying compensation to the victims of a horrible crime does not actually make that crime un-happen in the past! Because of this ironclad law of physics, Republicans in the North Carolina Senate blocked an attempt to compensate surviving victims of the state’s eugenics program — for which compensation the NC House had authorized $10 million — because really, what good would money do to make up for their being forcibly sterilized decades ago? “You just can’t rewrite history. It was a sorry time in this country,” said alleged human being and state Sen. Don East (R). “I’m so sorry it happened, but throwing money don’t change it, don’t make it go away. It still happened.” (Excellent use of the passive voice there — we guess mistakes were made!) Besides, in 2002, then-Gov. Mike Easley issued a one-sentence apology that said it was a “regrettable episode in North Carolina’s past,” for godssakes, so what do these people even WANT?

Between 1929 and 1974, the North Carolina Eugenics Board sterilized about 7600 people to improve humanity; surprisingly, most of them were poor, black, disabled, or institutionalized. (Fun fact! For the program’s first 30 years, twice as many whites as blacks were sterilized. From 1960 to 1969, though, that reversed, almost as if North Carolina were using sterilization as a means of controlling the Negro Problem!) Consider the case of Elaine Riddick, who was 13 when she was raped by a neighbor and became pregnant. The NC Eugenics Board decided that she was “feebleminded” and almost certain to be promiscuous, because why else would a 13 year old go and get herself raped? The Board wrote at the time:

“Because of Elaine’s inability to control herself, and her promiscuity — there are community reports of her ‘running around’ and out late at night unchaperoned — the physician has advised sterilization…This will at least prevent additional children from being born to this child who cannot care for herself, and can never function in any way as a parent.”

Bonus points to anyone who can find a substantial difference between that statement and the asshats who suggest maybe women on welfare should get their tubes tied. (Haha, trick question–there is no difference!)

So after Riddick gave birth to her son Tony in 1968, the state got her illiterate mother to put an “X” on a consent form, and then a doctor cut and cauterized Riddick’s fallopian tubes. She didn’t even know what had been done to her until she was 19. This all was done to an American citizen in the Greatest Country in the World.

In 2010, in one of the few political moves that reflect honor on the state, NC Governor Bev Perdue established the Justice for Sterilization Victims Foundation, which held hearings and collected information on the sterilizations. Its webpage says its mission is “to provide justice and compensate victims who were forcibly sterilized by the State of North Carolina.” Unfortunately, the other thing its website says, as of June 20, is this:

“Due to the joint legislative budget agreement to exclude state funding for compensation for victims of the state’s former Eugenics Board program, as well as continuation funding for operation of the N.C. Justice for Sterilization Victims Foundation, the Foundation has suspended intake of new victim verification requests.”

The Foundation will be shutting down altogether at the end of this month, in a victory for commonsense budgetary discipline, because blowing the people’s tax money on this will not change history, after all. Maybe this logic will lead to the shuttering of any number of shrines to the Confederacy, too.

Still, it’s important to keep in mind the bigger picture, according to serious thinker about history State Sen. Austin Allran (R):

“If you could lay the issue to rest, it might be one thing. But I’m not so sure it would lay the issue at rest because if you start compensating people who have been ‘victimized’ by past history, I don’t know where that would end”

In other words, The Blacks might start getting ideas. [TPM]

 

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{ 110 comments }

chascates June 22, 2012 at 10:16 am

And tiny American flags for all.

Biel_ze_Bubba June 22, 2012 at 10:28 am

The state will send Hallmark sympathy cards instead of checks.

Chick-Fil-Atheist™ June 22, 2012 at 10:33 am

Little pink houses, for you and me.

Omophagist June 22, 2012 at 11:54 am

"And tiny American flags for all."

"Boo!!!"

"Abortions for some, tiny American flags for others."

"Yay!!!"

tessiee June 22, 2012 at 12:09 pm

Although I feel compelled to point out that the anti-choice folks would boo that too, since they don't even want some to have abortions.

ManchuCandidate June 22, 2012 at 10:18 am

The past is the past unless it's about that fucker Lincoln violating state's rights then it's on.

actor212 June 22, 2012 at 10:22 am

He kill't all them Reb vampires!

BoatOfVelociraptors June 22, 2012 at 11:24 am

They still seem come up.

SoBeach June 22, 2012 at 10:19 am

I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free.

actor212 June 22, 2012 at 10:22 am

And nothing bad ever happens.

SoBeach June 22, 2012 at 10:56 am

That's how it is when you're exceptional.

James Michael Curley June 22, 2012 at 11:42 am

so's your mother after a couple drinks.

Omophagist June 22, 2012 at 11:56 am

Your free government mandated sterilization is Monday at 3:30. Bring an extra pair of pants and underwear.

ChernobylSoup June 22, 2012 at 10:19 am

On average, it takes about $300,000 to raise a kid from birth to age 18. So if you think about it, these women ought to be paying the state compensation for all the money North Carolina saved these hussies.

actor212 June 22, 2012 at 10:21 am

Damned right! Think of all that edumacation that the state wasn't going to pay for that now they don't even have to think about paying for! That ought to be worth something to the state!

emmelemm June 22, 2012 at 2:51 pm

Wow… you are almost diabolical enough to be a Republican.

JudasPeckerwood June 22, 2012 at 10:20 am

So would it be wrong to forcibly sterilize the North Carolina State Senate?

Monsieur_Grumpe June 22, 2012 at 10:30 am

Yes and no. But mostly no.

CrunchyKnee June 22, 2012 at 10:20 am

Forget, hell!

actor212 June 22, 2012 at 10:21 am

Oops! But sorry, no soup for you!

noodlesalad June 22, 2012 at 10:22 am

Every so often, I hope that there really is a Jesus like the one described in the New Testament, because the idea of these fuckers waking up on judgment day and realizing that this is the shit that's sending them south of the afterlife's Mason Dixon line for an eternal torment in Satan's Dixie seems like all the justice that we'll ever see for them.

EatsBabyDingos June 22, 2012 at 10:22 am

Geez, they could have at least thrown in a $10 off coupon for a transvaginal ultrasound and a pack of Kools.

Gratuitous World June 22, 2012 at 10:23 am

Scars + Bars

actor212 June 22, 2012 at 10:23 am

It's almost getting to the point where we'll tell stories about Hitler and then say, "You know who else was a…."

mrpuma2u June 22, 2012 at 10:25 am

State Senator Austin Allrunninghismouth, you are an epic douche-bag among epic douche-bags.

noodlesalad June 22, 2012 at 10:28 am

Not saying that you have to, but you could leave a comment on the good State Senator's facebook wall right here: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Senator-Austin-Allr

thatsitfortheother1 June 22, 2012 at 10:36 am

Fuggface. Two words or one?

actor212 June 22, 2012 at 10:45 am

Depends. Is it a description or a command?

thatsitfortheother1 June 22, 2012 at 10:47 am

Both?

Biel_ze_Bubba June 22, 2012 at 10:26 am

NC to victims: we're sorry (NOT).

not that Radio June 22, 2012 at 10:44 am

Psych!

Biel_ze_Bubba June 22, 2012 at 3:28 pm

EDIT:

"We're sorry if anybody was offended by our sterilzing them, and we regret our poor choice of eugenics methods."

noodlesalad June 22, 2012 at 10:26 am

Joe the Plumber insists this never would have happened if the children had been armed and taught to shoot on sight as our Founding Fathers and Baby Jesus wanted it.

noodlesalad June 22, 2012 at 12:48 pm

I'm mocking his famous tomato holocaust ad, where he blamed a lack of guns for the deaths of 6 millions. Anytime there is a historical tragedy, according to Wurzelbacher, the answer is that there weren't enough guns.

Lionel[redacted]Esq June 22, 2012 at 12:48 pm

Nah, they would just get uppity.

Indiepalin June 22, 2012 at 10:27 am

Maybe it's me, but a $10 million investment in time machine technology would not only solve the problem, but create a lot of jobs in the process.

glasspusher June 22, 2012 at 10:34 am

Time machine…I haven't invented a time machine yet…

not that Radio June 22, 2012 at 10:44 am

What do we want? Time Travel!

Jus_Wonderin June 22, 2012 at 10:45 am

How can one be sure?

glasspusher June 22, 2012 at 11:29 am

Didn't anyone get the Doc Brown reference?

James Michael Curley June 22, 2012 at 11:45 am

Yes.

Jus_Wonderin June 22, 2012 at 10:34 am

I'll donate, if you allow me to buy a 1972 Olds Cutlass and some 1980s Microsoft and Apple stock. Oh, and maybe unload Dad's gun forty years ago this Summer.

Biel_ze_Bubba June 22, 2012 at 12:01 pm

If time travel were possible, somebody would have come from the future by now, and done something about the teabaggers and rightwing nutbags.

Doktor Zoom June 22, 2012 at 12:47 pm

It's not as easy as you'd think.

Also, obligatory repost of the best story on the topic in recent years

Biel_ze_Bubba June 22, 2012 at 1:30 pm

Thanks … I could not find either item. You keeping a list or something?

Doktor Zoom June 22, 2012 at 2:45 pm

The Google-Fu is strong with me.

scvirginia June 22, 2012 at 6:24 pm

Just hope you aren't relying on Blackadder & Baldrick: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=461829483

tessiee June 22, 2012 at 12:17 pm

It would also allow me to write and copyright "Stairway to Heaven".

Biel_ze_Bubba June 22, 2012 at 3:29 pm

But would you be able to prevent "Free Bird?"

not that Radio June 22, 2012 at 10:28 am

Three generations of Republicans is enough.

Chichikovovich June 22, 2012 at 10:40 am

No shit Sherlock Holmes.

scorpy1 June 22, 2012 at 10:28 am

Allran: … ‘victimized’…

Right, because we don't even know if any wrong was done here.
Fuck Allran with a rusty hedgehog.

SorosBot June 22, 2012 at 10:29 am

But now, they've moved from forcibly sterilizing women against their will to forcing women to give birth against their will, which is – well it's basically the exact same thing, ethically, and shows the same complete disgusting disregard for consent and view of women as nothing but wombs in service to the state.

Biel_ze_Bubba June 22, 2012 at 1:41 pm

wombs in service to the state Jeebus.

fify

Chick-Fil-Atheist™ June 22, 2012 at 10:31 am

Wow. Fucked my Friday right up, there.

When I was a kid, my community would talk about how all them "niggers keep askin' for all this stuff, and the government keeps givin' it to 'em. There's even talk about givin 'em reparations for slavery… but not ONE of 'em was ever a slave. Hell, they're all free now, so what else are they gonna ask for?!"

I kept thinking, "For you to quit calling them 'niggers', I guess."

glasspusher June 22, 2012 at 11:32 am

You have sorosbot's avatar? I'm confused.

Chick-Fil-Atheist™ June 22, 2012 at 11:36 am

Shouldn't be. I've got a still-store of Dari Alexander, after Ernie Anastos told the weather dude to keep fuckin' that chicken.

deit: I now have another icon in Frankie Say Relax mode.

tessiee June 22, 2012 at 12:18 pm

"But THEY get to say it, wah wah wah…"

Jus_Wonderin June 22, 2012 at 10:32 am

What an awesome sign. Today, we all can't believe we still have to protest this shit.

widestanceromance June 22, 2012 at 10:32 am

Someone please tell me sterilization cannot be performed by a drone so I can pass the next open window I see.

This is so horrible, the doctors who did it should be dug up and hit in the head with the shovel. To those not yet dead, then just shovel shampoo them and throw them in the hole with the dead ones.

Jus_Wonderin June 22, 2012 at 10:46 am

Rinse, Repeat?

widestanceromance June 22, 2012 at 10:51 am

ad nauseam

PhilippePetain June 22, 2012 at 10:32 am

Republicans: Principled Opposition to State Power Since 1912™

Monsieur_Grumpe June 22, 2012 at 10:33 am

I suppose we can expect the next move by this enlightened Senate will be to use the 10 million to restart the eugenics program.

widestanceromance June 22, 2012 at 10:54 am

10 million will make a good start for a defense fund so any still-living doctors can avoid job-killing litigation.

mavenmaven June 22, 2012 at 10:34 am

"We can't acknowledge this. If we are forced to confront the ugly things we did in the past, then we might have to confront the ugly things we are getting ready to do in the present"

BigSkullF*ckingDog June 22, 2012 at 10:35 am

I hope this same argument will hold up in court for someone when sen Allran gets raped (allegedly) and murdered. (with votes)

Dashboard Buddha June 22, 2012 at 10:37 am

"The state has no money anyway and the teachers would like to have a pay raise, and state employees would like to have a pay raise"

You miserable piece of shit…pay raises for teachers and state employees? Like that would ever happen.

JustPixelz June 22, 2012 at 10:39 am

Repubicans showing more respect for human money than human life. In other news, dog bites man.

thatsitfortheother1 June 22, 2012 at 10:41 am

Lovin' me some small gubmint.

Chow Yun Flat June 22, 2012 at 10:42 am

Elaine Riddick must have been the only thirteen year old girl in NC who was "out late at night unchaperoned".

actor212 June 22, 2012 at 10:48 am

The other girls were all home in bed, being porked by dad and the cousins.

Chichikovovich June 22, 2012 at 10:42 am

if you start compensating people who have been ‘victimized’ by past history, I don’t know where that would end”

A core principle of the NC government: We cannot act justly now, for if we did we might have to act justly in the future.

not that Radio June 22, 2012 at 10:45 am

And we never acted justly before. There's no precedent for it.

BigSkullF*ckingDog June 22, 2012 at 10:45 am

Who is that enchanting lady with the cool sign? She's a little old for me but I feel like she could teach me things. Important things.

actor212 June 22, 2012 at 10:48 am

She wears leather.

SoBeach June 22, 2012 at 11:00 am

She's not too old for me.

TribecaMike June 22, 2012 at 1:10 pm

And those sure ain't mom jeans. More like hot English teacher jeans. Yow, the memories are flooding back!

Oblios_Cap June 22, 2012 at 10:49 am

In other words, The Blacks might start getting ideas.

For the love O Gawd, please don't tell the Indians about this!

SorosBot June 22, 2012 at 11:09 am

Let them have casinos!

James Michael Curley June 22, 2012 at 11:59 am

Most of which end up being run by white guys

Limeylizzie June 22, 2012 at 10:52 am

South Carolina seems very Bavarian these days.

James Michael Curley June 22, 2012 at 12:27 pm

Hey Ll,
Melba was on morning TV yesterday to cook her chicken and waffles. I only saw a tease because I had to leave for work. Since it looked like they were going to prepare fried chicken and waffles, do they have smothered chicken and waffles. Cause decades ago I had that at Sylvia's and it was the first time I had seen it outside of the south.

Limeylizzie June 22, 2012 at 12:45 pm

You can get smothered chicken and waffles in Harlem at “Amy-Ruth's” on 116th between 6th and 7th, better than Sylvia's I think.

James Michael Curley June 22, 2012 at 1:28 pm

I haven’t been to Harlem since the late 80’s so Amy Ruth doesn’t sound familiar. Looked it up and it says Established 1998.

Guppy June 22, 2012 at 10:54 am

And where's the USCCB?

Guppy June 22, 2012 at 10:56 am

Yes, North Carolina, why pay a compensation now when, this time next year, you could be paying compensation, a penalty, and legal fees?

FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY!!111!!

Biel_ze_Bubba June 22, 2012 at 11:50 am

"The Constitution says nothing about ovaries."
-Antonin Scalia

Biel_ze_Bubba June 22, 2012 at 11:50 am

"The Constitution says nothing about fallopian tubes."
-Antonin Scalia

ttommyunger June 22, 2012 at 12:22 pm

Plus, the math would be challenging, considering they are worth only 3/5ths of a Hooman.

tessiee June 22, 2012 at 12:24 pm

Her sign really says it all, doesn't it?

owhatever June 22, 2012 at 12:42 pm

Oops. We meant to erase that law when Hitler passed away, but some of those little Nazi rules slipped through.

TribecaMike June 22, 2012 at 1:11 pm

That's Göring a little too far, isn't it?

Doktor Zoom June 22, 2012 at 12:49 pm

Oh, hey, I forgot to include a rightwing meme–"That's OK, you know, when all that happened, the sate was run by DEMOCRATS"

Lionel[redacted]Esq June 22, 2012 at 12:50 pm

Republicans in the North Carolina Senate blocked an attempt to compensate surviving victims of the state’s eugenics program — for which compensation the NC House had authorized $10 million — because really, what good would money do to make up for their being forcibly sterilized decades ago?

I'm assuming that they are also cutting any funding to any program or government institution that memorializes the Civil War. After all, what is the use of putting money into remembering an act of treason over 150 years ago.

Lionel[redacted]Esq June 22, 2012 at 12:51 pm

“Because of Elaine’s inability to control herself, and her promiscuity — there are community reports of her ‘running around’ and out late at night unchaperoned — the physician has advised sterilization…This will at least prevent additional children from being born to this child who cannot care for herself, and can never function in any way as a parent.”

The question is, does anyone have her phone number?

notanncoulter June 22, 2012 at 12:58 pm

Sometimes it makes makes you ashamed to be human, knowing the depths that some are capable of.

Lionel[redacted]Esq June 22, 2012 at 1:12 pm

Just getting naked does that for me.

philpjfry June 22, 2012 at 1:20 pm

It's Great to be an American

Biel_ze_Bubba June 22, 2012 at 1:33 pm

Being an Amercian, on the other hand, is not all it's cracked up to be.

Biel_ze_Bubba June 22, 2012 at 1:32 pm

The important thing about Riddick's story is that a 13-year-old girl was forced to give birth to her rape-baby, just as Jeebus intended.

TribecaMike June 22, 2012 at 1:52 pm

From what I can tell, the only time Jesus showed any interest in sex was when speaking of adultery and divorce, unless that episode with the demon-infested pigs was some sort of fetish thing.

Biel_ze_Bubba June 22, 2012 at 3:33 pm

Well, there was that whole "this is my body" business, which got totally re-written the next morning.

BerkeleyBear June 22, 2012 at 2:19 pm

The North Carolina program lasted longer, but a lot of states did shit like this based on the idea that "feebleminded" women were going to destroy the gene pool. Like Reefer Madness and the Red Scare, there was this bizarre propaganda effort that slightly mentally impaired folks (especially women) were these super dangerous villains who were going to destroy civilization. They were supposedly actually much more dangerous than severely disabled people, because you couldn't spot them and they might therefore lure otherwise decent people into having sex and producing legions of uncared for feebleminded offsprings. It was in just such a context that Justice Holmes wrote his (in)famous line about "3 generations of imbeciles being enough".

The really sad part is that the overwhelming majority of sterilized people, based on modern understandings of developmental disabilities, either wouldn't be diagnosed with any impairment or would be "success stories" for administrators of social services, since they'd be capable of living independently and forming lasting relationships. And almost certainly were at least as capable of raising children as any Palin seems to be.

I know this is a long and too serious post, but this shit disgusts me. All the paranoia about the ACA and "death panels" drummed up by the GOP, but these fucks don't even see why a little compensation for living victims of brutal assaults might be a good thing? GAHHHHHH!

swordfis June 22, 2012 at 10:36 pm

Before eugenics, it's important to consider the present genetic state of the Republican Party.

Biel_ze_Bubba June 22, 2012 at 3:24 pm

Lemme guess …. Hitler?

valthemus June 22, 2012 at 5:08 pm

"Maybe this logic will lead to the shuttering of any number of shrines to the Confederacy, too."

No more comments from me today. I have some cost-saving proposals to type!

fuflans June 22, 2012 at 5:19 pm

i guess it isn't a great day in NORTH Carolina

Naked_Bunny June 22, 2012 at 7:54 pm

North Carolina will also save a lot of money by closing down the courthouses and prisons. Those things can't undo crimes, so they're superfluous. Then they can finish the deal by shutting down the legislature and the executive branches since there's no point in having or enforcing laws; things just happen sometimes, and they are unfortunate, but you can't change what happened, after all. NC will finally be a conservative, libertarian paradise!

OldRedneck June 22, 2012 at 9:14 pm

THAT SIGN IS THE GREATEST SIGN I'VE EVER SEEN EVER ANYWHERE ANYTIME ANYWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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