EVERYTHING'S BETTER WITH LAYOFFS  2:11 pm June 13, 2012

Quirky Wall Street Journal Says Firing Government Workers May Lead To Higher Unemployment!

by Rebecca Schoenkopf

Up next: sleeping under a bridgeWe are sorry, but we do not know what has gotten into the formerly sensible Wall Street Journal. Just listen to this Communist nonsense!

One reason the unemployment rate may have remained persistently high: The sharp cuts in state and local government spending in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis, and the layoffs those cuts wrought.

We are not buying it, Wall Street Journal! Everybody knows government jobs come at the expense of private-industry jobs, and that is why Mitt Romney said we should learn the lesson of Wisconsin and have fewer teachers before saying it was “absurd” that anyone would say he said we should have fewer teachers!

The Labor Department’s establishment survey of employers — the jobs count that it bases its payroll figures on — shows that the government has been steadily shedding workers since the crisis struck, with 586,000 fewer jobs than in December 2008. Friday’s employment report showed the cuts continued in April, with 15,000 government jobs lost.

But the survey of households that the unemployment rate is based on suggests the government job cuts have been much, much worse.

The Journal takes from this report the bizarre notion that if more people had jobs, unemployment would be lower.

The unemployment rate would be far lower if it hadn’t been for those cuts: If there were as many people working in government as there were in December 2008, the unemployment rate in April would have been 7.1%, not 8.1%.

We commend the GOP (and Barack Obama) for resisting this nonsense and making American government “leaner” and “more efficient,” as always works so well at places like HP and the Times-Picayune. Now everyone go and kiss the hem of Rand Paul’s robe, for He shall lead us from this desert, the end.

[WSJ]

 
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DrunkIrishman June 13, 2012 at 2:12 pm

No way! I call bullshit on this one.

HippieEsq June 13, 2012 at 2:56 pm

It's true. And it's also Obama's fault, according to something I read in Wonkette (so it must be truthy).

Tommmcattt June 13, 2012 at 5:25 pm

It's opposite day.

DrunkIrishman June 13, 2012 at 2:13 pm

Oh, so I guess Pres. Obama was technically right then when he spoke about the private sector?

actor212 June 13, 2012 at 2:15 pm

Actually, yea. But don't tell the Republicans that. They're busy cutting jobs and blaming O'Bama

actor212 June 13, 2012 at 2:14 pm

One reason the unemployment rate may have remained persistently high: The sharp cuts in state and local government spending in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis, and the layoffs those cuts wrought.

In other news, dog bites tend to come from angry dogs and lighting matches tend to cause fires.

nounverb911 June 13, 2012 at 2:15 pm

WOW! Facts in the WSJ. Ruppert must be turning over in his grave.

Beowoof June 13, 2012 at 2:19 pm

Ah Monty Python just played in my head, Rupert picks up his head and says I am not dead yet, to which someone whacks him with a mallet. Just a happy thought.

mcrummett June 13, 2012 at 3:15 pm

Crypt, you mean. He not technically "dead" yet.

Barb June 13, 2012 at 2:16 pm

Mitt Romney and a pack of his thug friends in the GOP will hold the government down and trim it until it cries.

JustPixelz June 13, 2012 at 2:52 pm

Except military. They'll shove money down the military's throat until it cries.

Also oil companies. They'll give tax credits and cheap leases to oil companies until they run out room in the Cayman's to store all their money.

And uterus police. The TSA will be repurposed … with a vengeance.

ManchuCandidate June 13, 2012 at 2:16 pm

So… the Wall St Jernil is saying the wonderful job kreatoz 1% Mofos aren't all about kreatin jobz for slobz?

Beowoof June 13, 2012 at 2:17 pm

There is the astute reporting that caused me not renew my subscription to the Journal, that and the little to the right of Attila the Hun editorial page.

MittBorg June 13, 2012 at 2:23 pm

"the little FAR to the right of Attila the Hun editorial page."

FTFY, Beowoof.

Callyson June 13, 2012 at 2:18 pm

we do not know what has gotten into the formerly sensible Wall Street Journal. Just listen to this Communist nonsense!

Guess those legal issues are starting to distract Rupert Murdoch…

Ruhe June 13, 2012 at 2:18 pm

Do we have to pay Rand Paul to lead us? Because if we aren't paying him I can't imagine why in the name of Ayn Rand's ghost he would bother to do it. Leadership as a moral imperative is a cheap canard invented by socialists.

MittBorg June 13, 2012 at 2:25 pm

Perhaps if we refuse to pay him, he'll go away and let some REAL leaders step forth.

Assuming there are any left.

EatsBabyDingos June 13, 2012 at 2:18 pm

Even a blind squirrel can find a nut shoved up its ass.

Negropolis June 14, 2012 at 1:50 am

Then let me tell you that that is one impressive squirrel.

Blueb4sunrise June 13, 2012 at 2:19 pm

WTF?

edgydrifter June 13, 2012 at 2:19 pm

I'll bet one private-sector job will be opening up at the WSJ soon.

Chick-Fil-Atheist™ June 13, 2012 at 2:19 pm

So why isn't the deficit going down? Oh, that's right… we're still killing people.

not that Radio June 13, 2012 at 2:19 pm

Does the WSJ have any thoughts on whether the banksters' plundering of our retirement accounts has caused our retirement accounts to lose value?

nounverb911 June 13, 2012 at 2:19 pm

This is good news for the Cranbrook Academy?

Mumbletypeg June 13, 2012 at 2:20 pm

My surprise is that WSJ has developed something approaching a sense of humor.
Still need to hear the punchline to know for sure, though.

Not_So_Much June 13, 2012 at 2:20 pm

This piece of shit paper would be kicked out of the party if it wasn't owned by some of Mitt's best friends.

anniegetyerfun June 13, 2012 at 2:20 pm

The Journal takes from this report the bizarre notion that if more people had jobs, unemployment would be lower.

That IS some communist bullshit right there. Someone's achin' for a Congressional investigation into their anit-Americanness, methinks.

Serolf_Divad June 13, 2012 at 2:21 pm

1st rule of Economics: Paul Krugman is invariably right

2nd rule of Economics: if you suspect Paul Krugman is wrong about something, refer to rule 1.

Goonemeritus June 13, 2012 at 2:21 pm

But clearly public sector hiring is crowding out private sector hiring, just like Gay marriage is crowding out traditional marriage. Soon we will all be gay public sector employees.

fuflans June 13, 2012 at 11:25 pm

or we live in canada.

Serolf_Divad June 14, 2012 at 5:39 am

Holy crap, you win the analogy of the day (yesterday, alas… but still). I shall use that. I shall use that the next time either of those two topics of conversation come up.

OneYieldRegular June 13, 2012 at 2:22 pm

This is the danger of empirically-based economic studies: they turn up stuff that totally gets in the way of indulging in a self-righteous, abstract, unfounded opinion.

Serolf_Divad June 14, 2012 at 5:41 am

Yes, much better to be an "Austrian" economist (or is it Austrian "economist") and derive all your ideas from "first principles."

Such as:

Principle 1: everything that ever goes bad is because of government intervention in the economy.
Principle 2: The End.

CommieLibunatic June 13, 2012 at 2:22 pm

Cutting jobs raises unemployment? Really?

vodkamuppet June 13, 2012 at 2:24 pm

I'll wait for David Brooks to chime in on the subject before I form an opinion.

MittBorg June 13, 2012 at 2:25 pm

Well, there ya go. It was only a matter of time before Barry Hussain's Socialist Commie pinko comrades infiltrated the finest bastion of corporate/capitalist journalism the world has ever seen.

We're doomed now.

actor212 June 13, 2012 at 2:25 pm

Hey, why are all those people sleeping next to a cyclotron?

HempDogbane June 13, 2012 at 2:27 pm

Needs more bathtub drowning.

Estproph June 13, 2012 at 2:28 pm

Fucktard Limbaugh was out there saying that public sector jobs don't do anything to help the economy. There's a bunch of stupids that believe that too (probably because he said it). So, if someone makes $20 an hour working at a car dealer and spends money on groceries, that helps the economy. But if someone makes $20 an hour working for the government and spends money on groceries, that takes money out of the economy.

Yes, they actually believe this.

AbandonHope June 13, 2012 at 2:33 pm

Can't we just change the government's name to "America, Inc.," and pretend it's a giant corporation? Problem solved!

pdiddycornchips June 13, 2012 at 2:55 pm

That might work except for a few flaws in the plan.

We would have to pay Obama $200M a year and shortly after we launch our IPO,
Congress would demand we hire Goldman Sachs who would then sell the country to a Soviet Oligarch.

ph7 June 13, 2012 at 2:35 pm

Not to mention that government allocates the radio frequencies, which allows every red state grandpa to listen to Rush without interference from the microwave as it cooks their Swanson pot pie.

pdiddycornchips June 13, 2012 at 2:51 pm

If Rush said that shit tastes like steak, Middle America would be tossing turds on the BBQ right now. When people realize that shit doesn't in fact, taste like steak, it would somehow be the fault of Liberals and the media.

prommie June 13, 2012 at 2:29 pm

I has a new avatar! It is the once and future avatar! I love my old avatar, because its so pointless and borderline stupid!

actor212 June 13, 2012 at 2:32 pm

I'd liked the angry turd better

prommie June 13, 2012 at 2:37 pm

This looks more like me!

actor212 June 13, 2012 at 2:40 pm

You're an angry bird?

prommie June 13, 2012 at 2:44 pm

Be nice, or I will switch to The Evil Avatar of DOOM! Bwa ha ha!

BaldarTFlagass June 13, 2012 at 2:56 pm

Hmm. All I'm seeing is your old avatar of the raging turd. but when I run my cursor over it, the large pop-up avatar is some cute chick. Wonkette (or I guess Intense Debate) is really fucked up for me today.

Mumbletypeg June 13, 2012 at 2:34 pm

Perfect. WIN.

prommie June 13, 2012 at 2:43 pm

I feel pretty, oh so pretty. . .

WhatTheHeck June 13, 2012 at 2:35 pm

your old avatar became unemployed.

Estproph June 13, 2012 at 2:38 pm

No, it just worked for the government so it didn't count.

BaldarTFlagass June 13, 2012 at 2:35 pm

I have a new avatar too, but it looks just like half the other avatars here.

Mumbletypeg June 13, 2012 at 2:47 pm

I have a new avatar too, but it looks just like half the other avatars here.

I like yours better. It has that je ne sais qui. Wanna trade?

BigSkullF*ckingDog June 13, 2012 at 2:51 pm

I like my avatar. It reminds me that my head shaped space sits on top of my shoulder shaped space.

Edit: it would look better with a hoodie shaped space.

FakaktaSouth June 13, 2012 at 2:52 pm

Oh wow I remember this old gal. Now we are cute together. You know how much I fucking LOVE cute. I do. Randomly. Trick is finding out when.

You know what this reminds me of? drinking beer out of a can in the shower. That's a happy thing, right? I mean, yay, it's beer in a can so it tastes like water anyway, and it's showering, so yay naked, and if you are getting ready to go some place that you can show up beer-drunk, well, I mean, what else does one need? And this sweet young thing is so happy looking. Kind of incongruous, you and this – I love it.

BaldarTFlagass June 13, 2012 at 2:57 pm

Also, you can pee in the shower and no one will know.

actor212 June 13, 2012 at 2:59 pm

Sharight, like you've never "shampooed" up a third time in the middle of a shower…

prommie June 13, 2012 at 3:16 pm

You may treat your shower as if it were a masturbatorium, sirrah, but I daresay you should not presume we are all so tacky.

FakaktaSouth June 13, 2012 at 3:00 pm

Well, only if you are alone. Otherwise, I'm yelling, cause I would notice. Hit that fucking drain dude, that's all I'm asking. I'm shower drinking here, show some class.

prommie June 13, 2012 at 2:59 pm

You remember this avatar? I coulda swore it was years and years ago. Now what I love about your avatar is that the My Name Is Earl Question has replaced the Gilligans Island Question, which was Ginger, or MaryAnne? Your avatar was always my anwer to the My Name Is Earl question.

And for randomness, My Name Is Earl is set in New Jersey. And the drummer for the Killers looks just like Earl.

I heard in Alabama its acceptable to show up most anywhere beer-drunk. But whiskey-drunk is frowned upon at church.

FakaktaSouth June 13, 2012 at 3:05 pm

I just found out it was frowned upon at the fucking PTA meetings too, buncha bitches. If you don't want me drinking, don't make me come there. That's all I'm saying.

I don't know how long ago it was my darling, when first I fell in love with your avatar's farrah fawcett trickle down 80s hair do. I covet that shit though, I love big hair.

And there is not a thing you can tell me about Earl that I don't know. Camden is a city in Alabama too, isn't that weird?
And because you mention it, my ocd requires me to say, "That's okay I can say that, I just had a black baby." LOVE that shit.

OH OH and, I want to be Ginger but some times I accidentally turn in to MaryAnne.

prommie June 13, 2012 at 3:01 pm

And "Yay Naked" is my new imaginary rock band's name. Cause, yay, naked. Or maybe Promnight Fap Altar.

FakaktaSouth June 13, 2012 at 3:12 pm

I just turned my head to the side like a dog hearing a loud noise upon reading that band name. Promnight Fap Altar is a mouth full. (ew) ALSO it's kind of make ya think-ish. What the hell is wrong with you is mostly what I am thinking, but also, like, that's kind of deep.

prommie June 13, 2012 at 3:19 pm

So deep you need boots.

poorgradstudent June 13, 2012 at 2:29 pm

Government jobs just don't count because they don't generate Libertarian fairy dust.

Doktor Zoom June 13, 2012 at 2:31 pm

Math is hard. Let's go shopping!

GeorgiaBurning June 13, 2012 at 2:31 pm

This guy needs to watch out, suggesting that firing people makes them unemployed will kill his chances for a job in the Romney campaign.

John Birf Society June 13, 2012 at 2:32 pm

Premise 1. The Gov't has never created a single job (Cain, 2012).
Premise 2. Thus, "Gov't jobs" do no increase employment.
Conclusion. Therefore, the "loss" of Gov't jobs cannot increase unemployment.

Logic, bitches.

Negropolis June 14, 2012 at 1:53 am

Information goes in, facts go out. Never a missed communication. You can't explain it.

Wait, what? You say that you actually can explain it with logic?

SayItWithWookies June 13, 2012 at 2:33 pm

These facts violate doctrine — they should be outlawed, just like mentioning the rising sea levels is.

Lionel[redacted]Esq June 13, 2012 at 2:35 pm

But government workers don't count, as they don't actually work or do anything valuable. They are just there to shepherd people to the FEMA Concentration Camps, and to pave the way for the Idealized Workers State/New Caliphate.

If I had a chalk board, you would understand.

WhatTheHeck June 13, 2012 at 2:36 pm

I sense a disturbance in the republican force.

Jus_Wonderin June 13, 2012 at 2:36 pm

Honestly, it is time to simply put creamy hot fudge on the unemployment rates. And nuts, plenty of nuts.

Dashboard Buddha June 13, 2012 at 2:37 pm

Wait…isn't the WSJ one of those fake parody thing websites?

Lionel[redacted]Esq June 13, 2012 at 2:47 pm

Yes.

Allmighty_Manos June 13, 2012 at 2:42 pm

laying people off causes unemployment? I think we need a Heritage Foundation scholar to weigh on this relatively extreme notion before jumping to any conclusions.

Troglodeity June 13, 2012 at 2:43 pm

Probable Republican spin: fire all government workers, and unemployment in the private sector will go down even more. Stands to reason.

pdiddycornchips June 13, 2012 at 2:45 pm

Why don't all those state workers who got fired borrow twenty thousand dollars from their parents and start businesses umm? I'll tell you why not. 'Cause they're Socialists, obvs.

JustPixelz June 13, 2012 at 2:47 pm

Obama: "Government workers are people, my friend."
WSJ: "Government workers are statistics, my friend."
Mitt: "Government workers are job destroyers, my friend."

imissopus June 13, 2012 at 2:48 pm

The logic pretzels the WSJ commenters are twisting themselves into in order to blame Obama for spending too much AND screwing over the private sector AND keeping unemployment even higher than the actual reported number is making my brain hurt.

Lionel[redacted]Esq June 13, 2012 at 2:48 pm

But you see, if we had no government workers, then they wouldn't be able to become unemployed and hurt the nation.

Antispandex June 13, 2012 at 2:51 pm

This is just too bizarre even for the Wall Street Rag. Do they actually think that government workers use their ill gotten gains to pay for good and services and pay taxes? Only the job creators do that…well not the "pay taxes" part, but the rest of the stuff!

Ryy June 13, 2012 at 2:52 pm

Rand Paul is fucking the face off public sector workers

mavenmaven June 13, 2012 at 2:52 pm

But in the end, George Soros is somehow responsible in some sinister way.

JustPixelz June 13, 2012 at 2:54 pm

"Communist nonsense?" Rebecca: Will you be changing your screen name to JournalGirl?

Chick-Fil-Atheist™ June 13, 2012 at 2:54 pm

Hopefully they got rid of the crotchety bitches at the DMV. Sorry, but they really are awful people.

Negropolis June 14, 2012 at 1:56 am

Hey, crotchety bitches are people, my friend. In fact, some of my best friends are crotchety bitches.

Billmatic June 13, 2012 at 3:00 pm

In the words of Cheryl Tunt: "Like super DUHHHH!!!!!!!"

Wonderthing June 13, 2012 at 3:12 pm

They were hoping the laid off government workers would be so stressed and squeezed and depressed that they'd all go and take whatever shit job was out there, like a greeter at Wal Fart or something. They did not count on pride. Many people still have it. Darn it.

ttommyunger June 13, 2012 at 4:04 pm

So, now that Newspapers are pretty much a thing of the past, they decide to try the truth? Too little, too late, assholes.

Abernathy June 13, 2012 at 4:04 pm

"The Journal takes from this report the bizarre notion that if more people had jobs, unemployment would be lower."

Now that's cerebral!

barto June 13, 2012 at 4:28 pm

Next they'll be saying the less money I have, the less stuff I'll buy. Idjits!

deanbooth June 13, 2012 at 6:19 pm

All hail the K-man!

[excuse my repost, but I worked months on this]

Serolf_Divad June 14, 2012 at 5:37 am

OMG, that's awesome! Any way I can pay $3999.00 for a wall sized glicee print??

BTW: as long as we're on the subject of plagiarism, I pretty much stole my original comment from Brad DeLong… credit where credit is due.

MinAgain June 13, 2012 at 7:40 pm

If the Tennessee General Assembly gets wind of this, they'll probably pass a law against "cause and effect" being taught in public schools.

lulzmonger June 13, 2012 at 11:29 pm

Happiness Is A Warm Pink Slip.

Buckminster June 14, 2012 at 1:17 am

Great Googly Moogly! If I had a nickel for every time I had posted this OBVIOUS fact, I would, myself, be rich and would be looking down my nose at the rest of you poors. Instead of sharing your plight. I wish the writer would choke on his own vomit.

Buckminster June 14, 2012 at 1:22 am

Captain Obvious to Earth?

Negropolis June 14, 2012 at 1:56 am

Fucking communists, the lot of them.

actor212 June 13, 2012 at 2:50 pm

See, now I'm not sure whether to respect you or ask for tit pics…

FakaktaSouth June 13, 2012 at 3:22 pm

I have some 4"stiletto black Jessica Simpson whore boots that would be perfect.

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