WHEEEEE  3:38 pm May 23, 2012

More Democrats Squeamish About Trying To Win Presidential Election

by Jim Newell

If you thought that the full chorus of national voices in the Democratic party might have no problem with — and in fact would embrace, not merely for political reasons but also because they believe it and consider it central to whatever remains of their ideological foundaiton — the long-promised assault on the practice of leveraged buyouts and their place within the financialization of the economy over the past 30 years and the destruction of any sort of consideration for improving the well-being of workers, all personified cartoonishly by Mitt Romney, then perhaps you’ve been spending too much time on Planet Earth, thinking rationally about how to win presidential elections. Several more national Democrats have announced that attacking Mitt Romney’s Bain Capital and what it represents makes them uncomfortable. Indeed, perhaps criticizing Mitt Romney at all is simply beneath them, and it would be best for the President to resign now and campaign for an uncontested Romney victory.

It’s always fascinating to watch national Democrats have months or even years to privately work out differences in preparation for a crucial moment, such as ending the high-end Bush tax cuts or attacking Mitt Romney’s finance record, and then see them break down into factions as soon as the moment arrives as though they’d never considered it until then. We’d suspected that Cory Booker’s me-me-me! moment on Meet the Press this past weekend would lead a conga line of squeamish Democrats with certain donor bases taking turns at the microphone to announce that the Democratic party should not criticize Mitt Romney’s career, and so it continues:

Some influential Democrats on and off Capitol Hill are refusing to give President Obama political cover for his attacks on Mitt Romney’s record at Bain Capital.

Despite pushback from more than a half-dozen Democrats, the Obama campaign on Tuesday defended how it has scrutinized Romney’s business background.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), a widely respected member of Congress, stopped short of criticizing the president, but made it clear that the campaign should pivot.

“It’s done,” she said. “Go on to other things now.”

Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.) told The Hill, “I think the average American … hopes that this campaign will focus on competing visions for how to strengthen our economy, help create jobs and move the country forward.”

Pressed on whether he thought Obama’s campaign had operated within those guidelines, Coons paused.

“I’m not going to comment on President Obama’s ad,” he said, shaking his head vigorously.

Dianne Feinstein has been famously terrible for decades, and Chris Coons represents an actual bank colony, and there will be more of them, soon. Their values compel them to speak out!

It’s fundraising and Citizens United, here. The party just can’t turn hard on high finance in an effective way, at all, now; they’re owned and who knows what the solution is. And if Obama does continue with this attack, at some point he’ll need to make it more credible by pairing it with new, specific policy proposals tailored at the industry, because right now, reports saying “Democrats have accepted far more than the GOP in political donations from executives at Bain Capital” suggest something of a credibility gap that will prevent such attacks from sticking. Will he? Let the record show that he has been known to half-ass critical things.

What we’re saying is that maybe leaders of the Democratic party should think things out before a presidential election season instead of just mumbling and being confused for six months. There are little splits between party factions on a bunch of issues, sure, but if it’s on something this central and the factions don’t iron out their differences, then that’s something of an existential crisis!

[The Hill]

 

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Doktor StrangeZoom May 23, 2012 at 3:40 pm

One might almost get the impression that several prominent Democrats feel obliged to dance with the ones what brung 'em to the party.

Oh, but that would be such a cynical thing to think!

Wile E. Quixote May 23, 2012 at 4:08 pm

Nahhh, I was just thinking that DiFi and Coons were in a contest to see who can jam the most greasy banker cock down their gullets between now and November.

Callyson May 23, 2012 at 4:59 pm

My money is on DiFi since she's got more experience, but she better watch out for the up and coming Coons…

Doktor StrangeZoom May 23, 2012 at 5:06 pm

Can I sell derivatives on the outcome of this bet?

Callyson May 23, 2012 at 6:05 pm

Put me down for $300K–I don't want to spend much money.

Lascauxcaveman May 23, 2012 at 4:09 pm

Let's just say there have been a lot of conversations "in quiet rooms" in the past few months.

nounverb911 May 23, 2012 at 3:41 pm

Man-up Democrats!

Boojum May 23, 2012 at 5:36 pm

Seriously. The only thing that eliminates the credibility gap for Democrats who took Bain money is to go on record criticizing Bain and all the other financial scammers.

nounverb911 May 23, 2012 at 3:43 pm

Democrats that are uncomfortable attacking Bain make me uncomfortable.

actor212 May 23, 2012 at 3:46 pm

So they're the Bain of your existence?

flamingpdog May 23, 2012 at 5:05 pm

They're a Bain-in-the-ass.

Schmannnity May 23, 2012 at 3:43 pm

I guess Rick Perry is a better Democrat than Coons when it comes to Bain and vulture capitalism.

Ann_ObeyMe_Money May 23, 2012 at 3:51 pm

At least judging from what he *says.* It's not clear, however, that Rick Perry has ever opposed vulture capitalism if he thought it might benefit him in some way.

flamingpdog May 23, 2012 at 5:07 pm

It's not clear, however, that Rick Perry has ever opposed heterosexual sex if he thought it might benefit him in some way.

Ann_ObeyMe_Money May 24, 2012 at 1:17 pm

Hell, that dirty little weasel will suck anybody's naughty bits if it gets him a couple points in the game.

randcoolcatdaddy May 23, 2012 at 3:43 pm

I'm a little uncomfortable thinking about Mitt's years at Bain Das Kapital too. It reminds me of how screwed over my 401K has been the past decade.

Jus_Wonderin May 23, 2012 at 4:00 pm

401K? Those are used to fund that antiquated notion of retirement, right?

Biel_ze_Bubba May 23, 2012 at 4:36 pm

Retirement (ha!) accounts are deliberately designed NOT to give working stiffs the 15% tax rate on capital gains that all the gazillionaires enjoy. Evidently, only the rich should be rewarded for making investments.

Mumbly_Libel May 23, 2012 at 3:44 pm

I think the average American … hopes that this campaign will focus on competing visions for how to strengthen our economy, help create jobs and move the country forward

Ummm… it is? This is what that looks like???

FlownOver May 23, 2012 at 3:44 pm

Can we get Steve King to run the DSCC? He can bring his bird dog.

actor212 May 23, 2012 at 3:45 pm

Consuela, the Human Vacuum Cleaner?

fuflans May 23, 2012 at 11:38 pm

alan simpson for the uncompromising insult to the base.

littlebigdaddy May 23, 2012 at 3:44 pm

Send Joe Biden to kick their asses!

Callyson May 23, 2012 at 3:54 pm

Oh, how I long for that big fucking deal to happen…

bumfug May 23, 2012 at 3:44 pm

"We want to beat Mitt Romney in November but not because he sucks or anything, just…you know…"

actor212 May 23, 2012 at 3:45 pm

It makes them uncomfortable only because their SuperPACs are all heavily into hedge funds and private equity investments.

Billmatic May 23, 2012 at 3:45 pm

Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.) told The Hill, “I think the average American … hopes that this campaign will focus on competing visions for how to strengthen our economy, help create jobs and move the country forward.”

I think the average american is eating doritos tacos and watching a Kardashian marathon and doesn't know who this Bain Capital guy is.

actor212 May 23, 2012 at 3:47 pm

Kardashian's don't marathon. They marry Kenyans to run them for them.

nounverb911 May 23, 2012 at 3:47 pm

He's married to Barbara Bain, right?

Billmatic May 23, 2012 at 4:00 pm

This makes me think maybe Obama would be best off just pretending like Bain Capital is run by the villain from the new Batman flick.

Grief_Lessons May 23, 2012 at 4:59 pm

At would be a great tactic. Because I would totally register to vote, if I could vote against that dude.

Robman2 May 23, 2012 at 3:45 pm

Dianne is past her prime, and should be replaced by a more progressive liberal. I'll bet she's hedging simply because her fund raising millions went poof with a lot of other CA politicians in that ponzi scam last year.

Too bad she cannot stand on, or have it (principal) both ways, her principal has vanished in both cases.

V572 Is this him? May 23, 2012 at 4:15 pm

I wonder if this has anything to do with DiFei's reluctance to attack vulture capitalism?

Richard C. Blum (c. 1936) is an American investment banker. He is the husband of United States Senator from California Dianne Feinstein. He is the Chairman and President of Blum Capital, an equity investment management firm that acts as general partner for various investment partnerships and provides investment advisory services.

George Skullfry May 23, 2012 at 5:51 pm

Um. Yes? Also, DiFi persists because she is a dick, not because she's broke. Blum is worth hundreds of millions.

Ann_ObeyMe_Money May 24, 2012 at 1:21 pm

Rich people don't get, or stay, that way as a result of spending their OWN money on squat. They usually find some way to offload the cost onto someone else while enjoying the benefit. Richard Blum is no different.

There's a lot to be said for DiFi, most of it uncomplimentary, but overall, she's not really a bad person. Just privileged, and out of touch.

wolvenwood13 May 23, 2012 at 4:20 pm

Wait, Diane Feinstein is a DEMOCRAT?!? I lived in San Francisco when she became mayor and she always dressed like a Republican with those little pussycat bows she wore on her blouses. I remember she once introduced a bill that would ban anyone with weird names from running for office.This was San Francisco back in the '70's and EVERYONE had a weird name then, Jello Biafra and Sister Boom Boom both ran for mayor. Sister Boom Boom was, of course, with the wonderful Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence.

Steverino247 May 23, 2012 at 6:45 pm

OK, so who else that's on my ballot is better? Seriously. I'm all for voting for a Democrat who's not insane, so who is it?

In CA, now the top two vote getters appear on the November ballot. That's likely to be Orly Taitz and some other joke candidate. This shit is right out of Putney Swope.

Robman2 May 24, 2012 at 3:08 am

Too late for the cycle, Gavin Newsome meaning she gets another 6 years to co-opt venture capitalists, she may be marginalized, stepping to her left out of survival's sake, legacy etc.

Ann_ObeyMe_Money May 24, 2012 at 1:23 pm

Not to be difficult, but Newsom can't get the Orange County voters and the rich Republicans of Southern CA and DiFi can. Newsom needs a few more years in politics before he's ready to be a Senator for a state as large, wealthy, powerful, and diverse as California.

elburritodeluxe May 23, 2012 at 3:45 pm

Why can't Obama be more like that nice Mike Dukakis?

nounverb911 May 23, 2012 at 3:49 pm

Just don't let him ride around in a tank.

Fox n Fiends May 23, 2012 at 5:15 pm

You can't Willie this Horton.

Joshua Norton May 23, 2012 at 3:46 pm

Several more national Democrats have announced that attacking Mitt Romney’s Bain Capital and what it represents makes them uncomfortable.

That's why people tend to sneer at some so-called "liberals". You truly get fed up with the pearl clutchers that expect us to always talk like DNC spokes people.

metamarcisf May 23, 2012 at 3:46 pm

If you think about the TV and media ad-buy shitstorm that's set to begin the day of the Democratic Convention, Obama's current ad campaign is like kissing your little sister. Wait. What?

gullywompr May 23, 2012 at 3:47 pm

Feinstein also warned the President against launching allegations of experimentation in the single-sex dorms at college. No need, just move on.

actor212 May 23, 2012 at 3:47 pm

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), a widely respected member of Congress

Wait. What now???

shortsandpants May 23, 2012 at 3:55 pm

But she can say "yea" and sit in a chair for 30 terms!!! Oh noes!!

Guppy May 23, 2012 at 5:41 pm

She's got supporters in Orange County, CA and Orange County, FL!

Ann_ObeyMe_Money May 24, 2012 at 1:24 pm

Just because you (and I) don't like her doesn't mean her colleagues don't.

HogeyeGrex May 23, 2012 at 3:48 pm

Fucking DiFi.

I may have to vote for Queen Orly in November too.

Ffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu….

V572 Is this him? May 23, 2012 at 4:16 pm

Too late…She's running against DiFei in the primary. Can't say I like Orly's chances.

George Skullfry May 23, 2012 at 6:06 pm

Two qualifiers, ain'a?

Guppy May 23, 2012 at 5:42 pm

No third-party Socialist Peoples' Front candidate to throw your vote away on?

jakegittes May 24, 2012 at 8:22 am

I voted for Oily here in the June primary. But I'll be goddamned if I vote for DiFi in November after this bullshit.

Ann_ObeyMe_Money May 24, 2012 at 1:24 pm

Please, no. Not even as a joke. PLEEEEEEZ!!

JudasPeckerwood May 23, 2012 at 3:48 pm

Ugh. We need a Pirate Party here.

actor212 May 23, 2012 at 3:59 pm

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! I'd be happy to lead th' raidin' parrrrrrrrrrrrrties.

MissTaken May 23, 2012 at 3:48 pm

I voted for Orly over DiFi. When choosing between the hotter, tighter, hornier one or the rich, crabby, barely a democrat one I always choose hornier.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 4:12 pm

I choose tighter, wetter.

jakegittes May 24, 2012 at 8:24 am

I choose oilier, crazier, birtherier.

SorosBot May 23, 2012 at 3:49 pm

Yeah, we should focus on jobs and the economy and ignore the little distraction of how Romney used to run one of the financial companies that destroyed jobs and seriously hurt the economy.

Baconzgood May 23, 2012 at 3:51 pm

Love how the GOP can call the Dems commies and nazis but dems can't criticize the GOP. Just fuck Mitt already. Grow some balls!

PuckStopsHere May 23, 2012 at 3:51 pm

I think what Coons, Feinstein et. al. are suggesting represents sound strategy based alone upon the restraint and respect for the office that the Repubbies will no doubt show in their campaign.

Callyson May 23, 2012 at 3:51 pm

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), a widely respected member of Congress, stopped short of criticizing the president, but made it clear that the campaign should pivot.
“It’s done,” she said. “Go on to other things now.”

FFS, Senator, it is *not* done–it is (or should be) just getting started…

…and she is on my ballot. Think I'll leave that one blank…

OneYieldRegular May 23, 2012 at 4:09 pm

I'd be tempted to leave it blank too, but I'm eagerly anticipating the magnitude of schadenfreude I'll experience by seeing Feinstein's competitor for that Senate seat, one Orly Taitz, reduced to a less-than-single-digit percentage of votes.

Callyson May 23, 2012 at 5:03 pm

You and MissTaken make a very convincing case…I know I could use the lolz…

(dammit, where did I put that absentee ballot?)

MissTaken May 23, 2012 at 4:11 pm

Vote Orly! Make the GOP have to deal with her and her insanity. It will be fun!

redarmyzombie May 23, 2012 at 4:55 pm

MissTaken, you make a very tempting proposition…

OneYieldRegular May 23, 2012 at 5:00 pm

Ah, well, when you put it that way…

Callyson May 23, 2012 at 5:01 pm

And get back at both DiFi and the wingnuts? Talk about a win – win proposition…

(rushing to absentee ballot…)

George Skullfry May 23, 2012 at 6:10 pm

When Feinstein voted to confirm Mukasey, I sent her an email saying that if she ever ran for office again I would, for the first time in my life, not vote Democratic.

At the time, many people expected her to retire, but I guess I'll have a chance to keep my word.

Mittens Howell, III May 23, 2012 at 3:52 pm

$wned.

bureaucrap May 23, 2012 at 3:52 pm

Your choice is between the proud exponents of corporate greed and the apologetic lackeys of corporate greed. Choose wisely!!

Callyson May 23, 2012 at 5:04 pm

Wish NOTK were on the ballot…

Callyson May 23, 2012 at 3:53 pm

Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.) told The Hill, “I think the average American … hopes that this campaign will focus on competing visions for how to strengthen our economy, help create jobs and move the country forward.”

Senator, how do you propose focusing on these competing visions while at the same time *ignoring* a key aspect of Mitten's vision?

JFC…

WhatTheHeck May 23, 2012 at 3:53 pm

The problem with Democrats is, when they smell blood in the water, they try to do the honorable thing and clean it up.

pdiddycornchips May 23, 2012 at 4:05 pm

Or another explanation is they're sucking the same cocks the Republicans are and don't want to make their masters angry.

Boojum May 23, 2012 at 5:40 pm

Yeah, no one likes an angry cock.

SayItWithWookies May 23, 2012 at 3:53 pm

Yeah, what could be more illegitimate as a campaign focus than pointing out that during his professional career Mitt made the rich richer and the poor poorer while gambling with other peoples' money? That would be like Republicans harping on President Obama having been a community organizer, except that they could never actually say what was wrong with that career, only it sounded vaguely — you know — commie.

bureaucrap May 23, 2012 at 3:57 pm

All good republicans know what's wrong with community organizers. they go around waging campaigns and bringing lawsuits. They fail to express gratitude for the many benefits of global capitalism.

Nostrildamus May 23, 2012 at 3:53 pm
shortsandpants May 23, 2012 at 3:54 pm

Amen, Mr. Newell. No "human" can be sure how Democrats even get elected anymore, except for the obvious reason of people disliking the Goober 'Ol Party. Google could really improve the political experience for all of us. Vote for Google.

Come here a minute May 23, 2012 at 3:54 pm

These are the same folks who agree with Republicans that we need to prevent European austerity by cutting spending. They will be a huge help in the campaign. Not the presidential campaign, the campaign to further destroy the economy.

pdiddycornchips May 23, 2012 at 3:55 pm

Has anyone reached Bristol Palin for a comment yet?

actor212 May 23, 2012 at 4:00 pm

She's in no position

pdiddycornchips May 23, 2012 at 4:07 pm

Bristol and Levi ran a very successful meth lab in Wasilla until Katie Couric decided to start snooping around like the job killer she is.

nounverb911 May 23, 2012 at 4:01 pm

Shes still out back in the tent with some wine coolers.

flamingpdog May 23, 2012 at 4:16 pm

You'd probably get a more coherent comment out of her mentally-challenged "brother".

rickmaci May 23, 2012 at 3:56 pm

Feinstein would be more comfortable with Mitt Romoney as president anyway. She's a 1%er and a DINO.

Ann_ObeyMe_Money May 23, 2012 at 4:19 pm

I WISH we could get rid of her, but who else could manage to convince the rabid nutbags of CA (who, unlike rabid nutbags elsewhere, know that you can't diss Teh Ghey or Latinos) that they could look out for their interests as well as those of the fags, hippies, moonbats, druggies, aspies, Culludz, liberals, and Hollywood Ho's that comprise the rest of that benighted state?

rickmaci May 23, 2012 at 4:55 pm

The only thing that has been holding her back is re-election. I fear that once she gets re-elected to what will be her probable last term, she will go all Lieberman on us.

Ann_ObeyMe_Money May 24, 2012 at 1:33 pm

For some reason, the admin script deleted my response. I'll repeat what I said, omitting any offending words, if I can remember them.

DiFi is not mean and vindictive like Joe and has no axe to grind with the Democrats. What we need to replace her is a Democrat who knows how to secure the votes of California Republicans, reactionaries, and other such lowlifeforms. Until that happens, we'll just have to put up with DiFi.

Mittens Howell, III May 23, 2012 at 3:56 pm

If you give up before the fight even starts, it's like you were never defeated.

Right, Democrats?

Mumbletypeg May 23, 2012 at 3:56 pm

What we’re saying is that maybe leaders of the Democratic party should think things out before a presidential election season instead of just mumbling and being confused for six months.

Thinking things out is so olde school, Jim. Today's politicians poop out a tweet (or get their congressional aide to do it for them) here and there to feign concern and simulate involvement with the public affairs on constituents' minds. Then they go back to whatever campaign donor breakfast or lobbyist-schmoozefest deserves their full attention span.

BarackMyWorld May 23, 2012 at 3:58 pm

Meanwhile, as a six year old, Obama was helping Bill Ayers build pipe bombs and worshipping Satan with Saul Alinksy.

Wile E. Quixote May 23, 2012 at 3:59 pm

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), a widely respected member of Congress, stopped short of criticizing the president, but made it clear that the campaign should pivot.

“It’s done,” she said. “Go on to other things now.”

Senator Feinstein then offered to pop out her teeth and show any Wall Street executives who donated to her campaign the time of their lives.

pdiddycornchips May 23, 2012 at 3:59 pm

This reminds me of my college years when all the hot girls would saddle up to my bar, let me buy them free drinks while I listened to their stories of how horrible their rich and popular boyfriends treated them. At the end of the night, they went home and fucked the rich assholes.

Billmatic May 23, 2012 at 4:01 pm

Also Jim, the word is "squirmish."

actor212 May 23, 2012 at 4:23 pm

Only if handcuffs and a leash are involved.

Exhausted66 May 23, 2012 at 4:57 pm

I'm gonna need to refudiate that claim.

Chichikovovich May 23, 2012 at 4:03 pm

Spineless Democrats: Romney went on and on about how Bain had created "100,000" jobs, and then dropped it immediately when it was challenged. It's a standard part of his campaign rhetoric to talk about how he "knows how to create jobs" because he is a businessman. (And he'd better point to Bain, because his job-creation record as governor of Mass. was abysmal.) And the incessant Republican rhetoric of "job creators" is meant to reinforce this. Not only is it permissible to examine what Romney did at Bain, it is essential. Because he's campaigning on it. You're just going to hand him free points, especially when they are so transparently bogus?

actor212 May 23, 2012 at 4:44 pm

Especially since they're running on the platform of lower taxes = more jobs. Mitt pays 15% on his, and zilch jobs.

SmutBoffin May 23, 2012 at 4:03 pm

Dear Democrats,

The Republicans will call you all Socialists anyways. They have been for 5 fucking years and don't plan on stopping because you weren't then, and you aren't now, and they don't care.

Out.

actor212 May 23, 2012 at 4:11 pm

This is so fun of "This" it ought to be the comment of the week.

TootsStansbury May 23, 2012 at 4:06 pm

Things really aren't going to get better are they? It's over, the country is circling the bowl. I'm having a tough time laughing especially the ogres and awfullness of the past few days and then ro top it off with Newell post…Oh! Haha! Newell post! "Fixed the newel post!!". Get it? Huh? Ever see Christmas Vacation?

pdiddycornchips May 23, 2012 at 4:17 pm

Things will improve after the revolution. Of course we'll all be dead by then which is unfortunate.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 4:19 pm

Yeats called it the "gyre," but "circling the bowl" is the same, I suppose.

TootsStansbury May 23, 2012 at 7:26 pm

I wanted to edit this for massive "smart phone" fail and can't. Oh well. It might have been funnier had it been literate.

ps – Yeats is one of my favorite poetical type people but I'm not all smarty smart like the rest of you Wonkedillians. I'm probably among the last of the HS educated slobs that managed to carve out a decent living. For now.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 4:12 pm

So, the Mayor of Newark has this much power? He mau-maued them into making Bain off-limits? Jesus fuck, I guess the magic underwear will never be mentioned.

actor212 May 23, 2012 at 4:14 pm

He mau-maued them

Really, bro? Can't we say "intimidated? We libs, after all.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 4:18 pm

I go to great lengths to portray myself through this fictional personna of a foul-mouthed, sarcastic, cynical roue with an eclectic and colorful vocabulary, sirrah. In reality, of course, I am a pale paunchy, balding, quiet person, who is just trying to find his red stapler.

OldWhiteLies May 23, 2012 at 5:17 pm

I resemble that remark.

Well, except for the balding part – and the quiet part – and the stapler part.

And I'm trying to figure out what the hell a sirrah is.

Boojum May 23, 2012 at 5:45 pm

so much depends on a red stapler
glazed with spittle
beside the white cheetohs

elburritodeluxe May 23, 2012 at 4:15 pm

the only place where Democrats don't love Cory is in Newark.

niblick77 May 23, 2012 at 4:14 pm

Dems, do not worry about the election just worry about the Inauguration after parties!

BlueStateLibel May 23, 2012 at 4:17 pm

Dems are just too uncomfortable commenting on Mittens' work as a vulture capitalist, tying his dog to the roof of his car, Swiss and Cayman bank accounts, 13% income tax rate, policies as a Blue State governor, or assaulting a gay classmate. What else is left to comment on? His hair?

Jus_Wonderin May 23, 2012 at 4:25 pm

It's like we are going big game hunting armed with an empty water pistol.

gurukalehuru May 23, 2012 at 5:05 pm

Yes, but the big game is a mentally retarded elephant. Sooner or later he's going to walk into a tree or something.

flamingpdog May 23, 2012 at 4:20 pm

Could we just get a Constitutional amendment banning the psychologically-challenged (Rethuglicans) and intellectually-challenged (Feinstein and the other douchebag that I'm too lazy to even scroll up page to see what his name is)? I realize that would pretty much clear out Congress, but it might be the only chance we'd ever have to get a third party going to replace the turd and the nerd parties we have.

proudgrampa May 23, 2012 at 4:22 pm

"If you thought that the full chorus of national voices in the Democratic party might have no problem with — and in fact would embrace, not merely for political reasons but also because they believe it and consider it central to whatever remains of their ideological foundaiton — the long-promised assault on the practice of leveraged buyouts and their place within the financialization of the economy over the past 30 years and the destruction of any sort of consideration for improving the well-being of workers, all personified cartoonishly by Mitt Romney, then perhaps you’ve been spending too much time on Planet Earth, thinking rationally about how to win presidential elections."

Jesus, Jim. That's one hell of a lede.

I've had way too many martinis today to follow that one!

Boojum May 23, 2012 at 5:47 pm

If you thought Democrats were smart, you were wrong.

Shorter Newell.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 4:35 pm

OT, but sweet suffering Jeebus, the Big Bang Theory dude has come out! He's gay? OMG WTF? Shocked, shocked I am, who would have ever thunk? Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Jus_Wonderin May 23, 2012 at 4:40 pm

Sheldon? I love me some Sheldon. Oh, wait, not like that. Now, that cutey Kurt Hummel from Mckinley High is the beesknees.

mrblifil May 23, 2012 at 4:56 pm

He wasn't out? He just played an AIDS victim in The Normal Heart off-B'way and he's as thin as a rail in the way that straight guys give up on once they feel they have a half-way reliable vector for sex. So in my mind he had already come out a while back.

finallyhappy May 23, 2012 at 5:24 pm

seriously- who didn't know? he has had a serious relationship for some time. Prommie- you know new Spock is gay too , right?

V572 Is this him? May 23, 2012 at 4:56 pm

Don't even ask about Rock Hudson then.

proudgrampa May 23, 2012 at 8:06 pm

What about Rock Hudson???

V572 Is this him? May 23, 2012 at 8:40 pm

You’re going to be so sorry you asked.

LadyWisdom May 23, 2012 at 4:37 pm

That first sentence defeated me. Can Wonkette not afford punctuation? A couple of periods thrown in somewhere would have been nice.

Sorry. Maybe it's just me.

proudgrampa May 23, 2012 at 8:08 pm

Honey, it's NOT you. Three hours later, I STILL don't get it!

Love,

proudgrampa

Katydid May 23, 2012 at 4:39 pm

This is why we can't have nice things.

Doktor StrangeZoom May 23, 2012 at 4:42 pm

OT, but speaking of squeamish: So I'm in my next-to-last week at my temp job at Family Court Services (tho I'll also have PT work here for the summer), and this young woman is at the counter while I'm doing her child support calculation. Her new husband is standing behind her…licking and nibbling her ear.

It just sort of slipped out: "Sir, is that really necessary? This is an office…" He actually said, "What?"

And then she explained, "We just got married two weeks ago."

"I'm very happy for you. The Court Assistance Office can help you with the rest of your paperwork."

(Everything after my initial comment was said while my eyes were focused ONLY on my computer screen.)

Yeesh, I am soooo bourgeois!

MissTaken May 23, 2012 at 4:47 pm

To be fair, no place says sexytime like the Family Court Services office. Oh yeah, baby, mmm, just like that, right there. Yes, yes, YES! Oh god! OH GOD!!!

Doktor StrangeZoom May 23, 2012 at 4:55 pm

Esprit de l'escalier:

You can't make out here! This is Divorce Court!

Blueb4sunrise May 23, 2012 at 5:07 pm

Finally, something fappable.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 4:45 pm

Between the Teatards, the Randtards, and Grover Norquist, they have moved the debate soooooo far to the right that its no longer a question of "how much regulation of business is necessary." The debate is now "You hate business, you a commie." Look at that shit from the green-toothed hag this morning, "Obama Don't Get Capitalism (Because Hes A Kenyan Commie)," you can't criticize even the worst excesses of the vulture capitalists and corporate raiders, the right still comes at you, with the "socialist commie commie socialist nazi commie socialist, pissing on the Constitution" shit.

OldWhiteLies May 23, 2012 at 5:27 pm

Yes. And this is why we snark. And this why we snark in packs.

Cuz otherwise me thinks the majority of us could perhaps otherwise be either conspiring to commit murder (upon Teatards, Randtards, etc); being tried for murder (having sucessfully conspired upon same); or already be serving time as convicted murderers (for, again, same).

Barkeep …

Boojum May 23, 2012 at 5:49 pm

I keep my list up to date, my powder dry, and my knives sharp.

Edit: For making meat pies! Geez, you guys!

hagajim May 23, 2012 at 4:45 pm

"whatever remains of their ideological foundation"

What ideological foundation? Didn't they pretty much abandon what was their foundation in order to become the party of Billy Bob Clinton, centrist Democrat extraordinaire? The closest thing there is to a real Democrat in Congress is Bernie f'ing Sanders, and he isn't even a Democrat.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 4:49 pm

There was that hobbit from Ohio, who believed in chemtrails? Elizabeth Warren would be good, she's a democrat.

Ruhe May 23, 2012 at 4:54 pm

I agree with Feinstein. The Dems and the President should pivot…pivot to making it clear that they won't let the Repubs define the terms of the debate. This isn't a debate about capitalism, though that's what the republicans will frame it as. This is a debate about the moral responsibilities the owner/manager of any business has and how one can earn a profit by building a business or by cutting it up and selling the parts. Either decision is legal and within the bounds of capitalism but they are not equal in terms of the real world consequences they have for people outside of the boardroom. The President's point should be that what Mitt did at Bain doesn't make him a criminal, it just makes him an asshole.

Boojum May 23, 2012 at 5:55 pm

The President should have a Sister Souljah moment with the fucking financier Feinsteins of the world and tell those cash gobbling dirty kneed bootlickers that being a Democrat means caring more about the middle class than about champagne and caviar cocksuckers.

theshasta1 May 23, 2012 at 4:58 pm

This is why the democrats and the republicans will not back OWS.
Broken Government!

DustBowlBlues May 23, 2012 at 5:05 pm

Feinstein is such a fucking waste. I'm here in the Dust Bowl with morons electing morons to congress. But this is California we're talking about and could do better. I knew her sister when I lived in Seattle. She was an aristocratic Republican. Both of them bitches.

I'm totally slammed for time and have way too many things to do so I actually have no time for potty-mouthed losers but found myself (a relief) missing you all. Gone two days of weekend to do the family grave trip with two daughters and a daughter's girlfriend. Nice to have a new person to show our favorite White Trash graves. It's a very, very serious trip, as you can tell, but wtf the flowers get on better than a dozen graves. Also, a side trip to the REAL Dust Bowl. I hope no one kills us for food.

redarmyzombie May 23, 2012 at 5:08 pm

You know, say what you will about the communists, at least they have some fucking balls to sit on.

Sorry. Rage-monster posting here.

Fox n Fiends May 23, 2012 at 5:13 pm

Finally its the Democrats who vote against their own self-interest.

4TheTurnstiles May 23, 2012 at 5:13 pm

Democrats: voters like candidates who take clear positions and fight for them. They dislike squishy pussy people. For the sake of the goddamned country, stop being such cowards and throw down like grownups. You will win more and it will confuse the shit out of the GOP.

yellowerdog May 23, 2012 at 5:18 pm

One of the 1st things we learned in the New Left was that we needed to drop anti-communism. Not that we were communists, just that we didn't need to prove what good cold warriers we were by throwing actual leftists out of unions, educational institutions, doing the Right's bad work for them.
What we need to do now is to understand that we don't need to go on about the wonders of capitalism – that's the Repubs jobs. Not that we are communists, just that we understand that capitalism is a neccessary EVIL.

HistoriBarb May 23, 2012 at 5:57 pm

think things out before a presidential election season instead of just mumbling and being confused for six months.

You're talking about the party which somehow was taken by surprise by the 2010 shitstorm.

Nopantsmcgee May 23, 2012 at 6:18 pm

The day Dems stop being squishy and malleable is the day the Republicans become self critical and introspective.

Steverino247 May 23, 2012 at 7:07 pm

Having run for office, let me tell you how it works. There are recruiters who look for candidates. At least since 1992, the D's have been looking for enlightened millionaires to run for the House and the Senate. Then, they give them money from the congressional and senatorial campaign committees even though they can probably buy the seats on their own. They never challenge R's in their safe districts. If somebody comes along who shakes shit up (ahem) they get nervous because they didn't pick that person. It's all about keeping the fundraisers for each party employed. I gave speeches that knocked audiences out and beat the shit out of GOP talking points, but did ANY of that get in the papers? No, because I didn't raise enough money or have enough money to be viewed as serious. I had R's shake my hand after talks I gave, but the D's were nervous. I addressed a LGBT Democratic club and two non-members criticized my passion on abortion rights. The Democrats that whipped fascism in the 40's are LONG gone, my friends. R's and I's won't vote for cowards and that's the way they see D's.

BZ1 May 23, 2012 at 9:51 pm

Watch out for Bain Capital, they have a reputation of shutting down things they invest in.

imissopus May 23, 2012 at 10:05 pm

Democrats have accepted far more than the GOP in political donations from executives at Bain Capital.

It's cold comfort but I like to think this is because many of the execs at Bain Capital worked for Mittens and know what a giant douchebag he is, and don't want him in the Oval Office any more than I do.

Billmatic May 23, 2012 at 11:39 pm

I have to point out, possibly far too late for anyone to ever see it, let alone give it a thumbs up, that while we all mock Senator Coons and his racist name, if he wasn't in the senate, Christine O'Donnell would be.

Just something to think about.

MilwaukeeKent May 24, 2012 at 12:21 am

Heroic, pioneering, self-reliant "Job Creators" sure are a bunch of God damn delicate orchids, needing just the right PH, precise sunlight, exact balance of temperature and humidity and ever-declining tax rates to work their beautiful magic. Asshats aren't above a little criticism now and then.

lulzmonger May 24, 2012 at 2:45 am

More Democrats Squeamish About Trying To Win Presidential Election Pissing Off The Guys Who Write The Big Checks

(ftfy)

maybe leaders of the Democratic party should think things out before a presidential election season instead of just mumbling and being confused for six months.

Traditional Dem electioneering strategery = "FUCK IT! WE'LL DO IT LIVE!"

Negropolis May 24, 2012 at 2:58 am

Dems have railed against all kinds of industries that they get campaign money from. I don't know why some of the dicks are now changing their tune as if Dems can't both rail against industries that they speak ill of. That's kind of the entire point of the Democratic Party, and that is that while both parties may take money from the same places, the Dems don't have to pretend to like the people that fund them.

I honestly don't understand this pushback. It's bad politics because it's not even necessary. The Dems have been railing against energy and finance (and fill in the blank) companies for decades. All these companies care about is whether they get their bought politicians to vote for them, and for the more principled ones that they at least step out of the way.

This criticism of the president from his own party is just insane. The only good thing in all of this is that the president isn't backing down, for once.

ttommyunger May 24, 2012 at 2:17 pm

Feinstein & Coons: the walking, talking case for term limits.

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