DAS KAPITAL  9:28 am May 23, 2012

Jennifer Rubin Opens Yap

by Kris E. Benson

Let them read BrooksDoes Barack Obama understand capitalism? This is a legitimate question that Jennifer Rubin of the Washington Post would like answered, given that Obama is a Socialist bully who uses intemperate language and who is NEVER EVER THERE for America’s bff Israel and MIGHT take powers granted to him by Obamacare to legislate “new and previously unimaginable infringements on individual liberty and decimating the federal structure of our government.“ His recent attacks on poor, defenseless Bain Capital can only mean one thing: Obama does not understand Capitalism, because duh.

…[Bain's] “brand” of capitalism is capitalism, and in its undiluted state does create hardship, but nothing in comparison to the amount of suffering inherent in other, less successful economic models. Two points should be kept in mind. First, we don’t have undiluted capitalism precisely because, while capitalism is the greatest wealth-creator the world has ever known (I think Obama even said this), we don’t as a compassionate society want undue suffering in the short term. Hence, we have unemployment insurance and an array of social safety-net programs.

Look, do you want to live in “other, less successful economic models” — like the kind of social democracy they have in Sweden, where everyone has free health care and education and paid maternity leave? DO YOU? Do you EVEN KNOW what kind of freedom and liberty you’d lose? And the suffering, my god, the suffering. Because nothing compares to the amount of suffering you see amongst those Swedish commie socialist pinkos, not even the minimal amount of suffering you might see in undiluted capitalism, which we don’t even HAVE.

If we had that, we’d leave everything up to the whims of the invisible hand of the market. Instead, we let banks write their own legislation and decide which rules they play by, and install a sort of revolving door between Monsanto and the FDA, and worship the holy alliance of Goldman Sachs and the Fed. And if anyone accidentally gets left out of all of this wealth creation, it’s probably because they are stupid losers. Lucky for them, we have the social safety net — you know, the one that Jennifer Rubin wants Paul Ryan to destroy? That one. But we really don’t even NEED the safety net because the most important thing about capitalism is that it helps the poor.

Second, capitalism is unmatched in its ability to lift and keep people out of poverty. (On this topic I would heartily recommend “Wealth and Justice: The Morality of Democratic Capitalism” by Peter Wehner and Arthur Brooks, as well as Brooks’s new book, “The Road to Freedom: How to Win the Fight for Free Enterprise.”)

Yes, I’ll go on ahead and send those titles to the 46.2 million Americans that were living below the poverty line in 2011, and let them know that they have Jennifer Rubin’s hearty recommendation. While I’m at it, I’ll let  them know that they’re poor because they have no skills or work ethic, or possibly because of stifling regulation, one or the other, they can take their pick, you know, whichever feels right. Hopefully they will be sufficiently shamed into being Productive members of society. But anyway, the thing about attacking Bain is that it is an Incorrect view of wealth. There is a Correct view and an Incorrect view, and guess which one Obama has? You’ll never guess!

Part of the problem with the Bain attacks, as well as the Buffett rule and Obama’s anti-Wall Street rhetoric, is a peculiar, and essentially incorrect view, of wealth. If Bain or the 1 percent are getting rich, as Obama would have us believe, then others are getting poorer or are being defrauded. So, naturally, government must step in to rearrange the slices of the pie. But we know that is not the case. Our economic opportunities are limited only by the impediments that government (taxes, stifling regulation, etc.) and individuals (lack of skills and work ethic) impose.

You know, Jennifer Rubin makes an excellent point. It IS peculiar, isn’t it? And incorrect. There is a “correct” view of wealth, which is basically that if someone has wealth, it in no way came from the increased productivity of employees or the purchasing power of consumers; no sir. It came from hard work and stick-to-itiveness. And also, that rich people shouldn’t have to contribute to the public good, because that would be punishment and would discourage them from making themselves EVEN MORE MONEY. WINNERS NEVER QUIT AND QUITTERS NEVER WIN, because this is capitalism, the very best system of them all! So just sit back, and let the wealth trickle down in a golden shower of capitalism….

 

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Barb May 23, 2012 at 9:30 am

Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's the "trickle down" effect, please. The wealthy "job creators" really don't care if we get a slice of the pie.

Give them a chance to bring the jobs back from the foreign countries that they farmed them out to or take away their tax incentives. Just move the jobs back to America and put our people back to work.

freakishlywrong May 23, 2012 at 9:48 am

I don't know why this isn't being pointed out more, (well, fuck, yes I do). The noble jawb creators are hoarding all those tax breaks and whinging about the mean Democrat Party. JesusHTittyfucking Christ. The ignorance.

actor212 May 23, 2012 at 9:54 am

Hear hear! Tax cuts on the rich have not produced jobs in this country, full stop.

Tax cuts on the middle class– people who make less than $50,000 from their shops and offices– who own 95% of the small businesses that create 90% of the new jobs in this nation…do the math…always, ALWAYS, create hiring.

Barb May 23, 2012 at 9:58 am

Excellent point, Actor.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 10:16 am

There you go again, with your empirical measurements and verified cause and effect relationships. Just like a liberal, to bring facts to a rhetoric fight. USA! USA! always wins.

proudgrampa May 23, 2012 at 10:12 am

Just please don't pee on my pie.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 10:15 am

Well, you know, it is called the "trickle" down effect, noone promised it would pour down in buckets.

yrbmegr May 23, 2012 at 1:14 pm

You misunderstand. You are poor because I am not rich enough. See how simple that is?

lulzmonger May 23, 2012 at 2:58 pm

Au contraire: I think the JERB CRATORZ care very much that you do NOT get a slice of the pie – at least not a slice any bigger than you need to survive, with perhaps a little extra for payments on the latest model of plasma-screen/gerbil-dewormer/GPS/Thighmaster.

"Oh you silly peasants! You don't want any of this yucky filthy mountain of money! Money just leads to Super-PACs … & everyone knows Super-PACs are for The Right Kind Of People only!"

doloras May 23, 2012 at 5:18 pm

And you see, when Karl Marx says this, everyone calls him EVIL.

lulzmonger May 24, 2012 at 10:29 am

Well, to be fair, ol' Karl DID treat his wife like shit.

Limeylizzie May 23, 2012 at 9:30 am

Good, maybe she is getting her teeth bleached, because they are disgustingly yellow.

V572 Is this him? May 23, 2012 at 9:41 am

If you wake up early on weekend mornings, you can see her live on the yak shows.

Do not do this.

Either she refuses the available hair and makeup assistance, or they're doing the best they can.

BaldarTFlagass May 23, 2012 at 9:48 am

That's a MAN, baby!!

Texan_Bulldog May 23, 2012 at 9:51 am

Why does the term 'lipstick on a pig' come to mind?

V572 Is this him? May 23, 2012 at 10:20 am

It’s really shallow to criticize a woman for being unattractive. (No one points out that evil war dwarf Henry Kissinger looks like a troll.) But when her arguments are so tired, vapid and so obviously stem from the undeserved sense of privilege that stems from WaPo op-ed-ness, there’s nothing left to attack. It’s a dirty job, but someone’s got to do it.

Texan_Bulldog May 23, 2012 at 10:36 am

I agree. That's why you'll never hear me talking shit about Golda Meir or Eleanor Roosevelt.

actor212 May 23, 2012 at 9:54 am

Cum will do that.

Or so I've been told.

thatsitfortheother1 May 23, 2012 at 10:12 am

And it's more likely that she gets her azzhole bleached.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 10:18 am

Jesus Christ, I am glad I am going in for a full set of caps next month, I wouldn't want to get judged by this crowd.

Limeylizzie May 23, 2012 at 10:29 am

When you've been judged by a Brit about the state of your teeth you know it's bad.

thatsitfortheother1 May 23, 2012 at 10:35 am

Now that's funny.
She's got Betty Davis eyes. And Ginger Baker choppers.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 10:39 am

Its like being called a bad lay by an Irishman.

Limeylizzie May 23, 2012 at 10:47 am

Or being called an idiotic tramp by Sarah Palin.

metamarcisf May 23, 2012 at 9:30 am

On the bright side, Ms. Rubin's pussy is said to be "magically delicious".

ManchuCandidate May 23, 2012 at 9:55 am

Her vulva looks like a Green Clover.

actor212 May 23, 2012 at 10:07 am

We can be pretty sure there are no hearts in that box

Crank_Tango May 23, 2012 at 10:36 am

I just don't want to know what is frosting her lucky charms. I am picturing something like the fuzzy rind on stinky french cheese.

actor212 May 23, 2012 at 9:56 am

For maggots, maybe.

chascates May 23, 2012 at 9:31 am

American Exceptionalism is based on God, greed, and guns.

freakishlywrong May 23, 2012 at 9:59 am

And gaydar.

Maman May 23, 2012 at 11:06 am

Hm, I thought it was claiming credit for the accomplishments of others while providing nothing in the way of effort yourself.

ManchuCandidate May 23, 2012 at 9:31 am

You'd figure apologists for the 1% would get better plastic surgery and a better argument than "Money for the sake of money."

chascates May 23, 2012 at 9:34 am

I actually thought it was Jerry Rubin at first.

Mumbletypeg May 23, 2012 at 9:42 am

I thought it was Michael Chabon. Seriously.

actor212 May 23, 2012 at 10:03 am

That's grossly unfair. Especially since it's clearly Jonathan Franzen on a bad hair day.

proudgrampa May 23, 2012 at 10:19 am

Is that a 5 o'clock shadow on that woman?

thatsitfortheother1 May 23, 2012 at 10:20 am

Or Jerry Garcia.

Douché May 23, 2012 at 9:34 am

I think the best part of her trickled down, ah forget it, I'm not motivated enough to finish my snark. Back to bed and waiting for my welfare check.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 10:19 am

Don't forget to take your illegal narcotics!

muthalovin May 23, 2012 at 9:37 am

Love letter to fat cats or hate letter to all you poors? Both.

BaldarTFlagass May 23, 2012 at 9:38 am

Man, it's really unfortunate for Ayn Rand's daughter that she got her mom's looks.

MarionNYNY May 23, 2012 at 9:39 am

Jennifer Rubin needs to get out of the country more.

Also, I'm confused by the paradox, how can Obama be both anti-Wall Street as she's saying, and somehow in bed with Wall Street as other wingers keep pointing out <a href="http://(http://www.theamericanmaverick.com/2012/03/new-video-exposes-obama-wall-street.html)” target=”_blank”>(http://www.theamericanmaverick.com/2012/03/new-video-exposes-obama-wall-street.html) ?

Then again I don't understand how he can be a gay, Muslim member of a radical church either.

Wile E. Quixote May 23, 2012 at 1:39 pm

Jennifer Rubin needs to get out of the country more.

And once she's out of the country she needs to stay there.

Texan_Bulldog May 23, 2012 at 9:40 am

Jennifer is just bitter because she is not very pretty and probably never got asked to the prom. And, man, she really hates the poorz.

Barb May 23, 2012 at 9:41 am

Do you get the feeling that she's a big fan of Janice Ian?

Chichikovovich May 23, 2012 at 9:44 am

She learned the truth at 17, that life was meant for beauty queens….

…or at least, that they were the only ones who could get away with writing things as brainless as her columns.

Texan_Bulldog May 23, 2012 at 9:46 am

Dunno…since Ian was gay & pretty progressive about social issues.

Wile E. Quixote May 23, 2012 at 1:42 pm

She still is, gay and progressive that is. Oh, and she's a huge science fiction fan as well. Janis Ian is way cool.

actor212 May 23, 2012 at 10:05 am

Well, she's married with two children and lives in a Virginia suburb.

So yes!

Wile E. Quixote May 23, 2012 at 1:41 pm

JANIS IAN LIBEL!!!

SaintRond May 23, 2012 at 9:48 am

Poor people are horrible. Rich people are wonderful and gracious and they'll do anything sexually. Poor people think getting on their knees to go down on their partner is a sign of subservience.

I have personally seen a beautiful rich matron at a formal dinner, hike up her evening gown and urinate in a wine bottle, simply for the amusement of well heeled dinner guests. Poor people would never do that.

Because poor people are horrible.

deanbooth May 23, 2012 at 10:01 am

Pics!

thatsitfortheother1 May 23, 2012 at 10:22 am

Where do you dine?

elburritodeluxe May 23, 2012 at 9:41 am

Who would want to live in a Commie shithole like the Netherlands or Sweden where you get "health care" and don't die of malnutrition or exposure when you're poor!

Arken May 23, 2012 at 9:41 am

I actually had a free marketer tell me that Sweden is a terrible place because there are still poor people there.

No, he didn't see the irony.

Chichikovovich May 23, 2012 at 9:41 am

[capitalism] in its undiluted state does create hardship, but nothing in comparison to the amount of suffering inherent in other, less successful economic models.

Take a social democracy like Israel, for example. It has created untold suffering in the Occupied Territories….

What?

That's not her point?

HobbesEvilTwin May 23, 2012 at 9:50 am

Nice!

Doktor StrangeZoom May 23, 2012 at 10:43 am

Is she planning to lecture Israel on the virtues of dismantling their socialized medical system?

doloras May 23, 2012 at 5:20 pm

Israel USED to be a social democracy, but once the Likud Party became the kept boys of US foreign policy, increasing barbarity towards Palestinians combined with dismantling of the welfare system. Which is why increasingly Jews don't want to live there.

freakishlywrong May 23, 2012 at 9:42 am

Do these dildos remember a few short months ago? Much less the fucking aughts? Newtie, Rick Purrah, Saintorum and yes, Sister Sarah spent the entire Rethug primary trashing Mittens. Because of Bain. Fuck the world.

Wile E. Quixote May 23, 2012 at 1:43 pm

We've always been at war with Eastasia.

V572 Is this him? May 23, 2012 at 9:43 am

Our high unemployment is "structural," according to David Brooks and other unintentional humorists of the right. This is their new euphemism for "You Poors are just lazy. Look at me, I get paid well to transcribe 800 words of Koch-dictated bullshit three days a week. Why can't you quit whining and find a scam like I did?"

DemmeFatale May 23, 2012 at 10:22 am

I have always had a real problem with David Brooks and his "aw shucks, guys" manner.
Mr. Fatale keeps showing me "reasonable" columns he's written, but I don't trust him AT ALL.
Now I find out that his son idolizes Boner.
He's dead to me.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 10:28 am

Or as Bart said, "Can't win, don't try."

V572 Is this him? May 23, 2012 at 10:40 am

So when an unemployed steelworker’s kid gets leukemia or diabetes and can’t get anything but emergency-room medical care because Daddy’s COBRA ran out two years ago, that’s just the “creative destruction” of capitalism. Of course another name for this sort of thinking, which you don’t hear so much anymore for some reason, is “Social Darwinism.” Maybe we need to start practicing “eugenics” again to help this evolution along.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 11:55 am

It would decrease the surplus population, as scrooge said.

SayItWithWookies May 23, 2012 at 11:38 am

I thought "structural" meant it was built into the system, like the foundation of a building — you know, so Mitt's hundreds of millions are like an edifice built on the foundation of millions of poor and unemployed people. Can't be helped — that's just the way it works.

sullivanst May 23, 2012 at 12:07 pm

"Structural unemployment" isn't code for "you poors are lazy", it's code for "we're not gonna do shit to fix this mess, so suck it up losers"

Were they not right-wingers, they would be unable to simultaneously believe that unemployment is all Obama's fault and an inherent feature of the system. But they're right-wingers, so they're entirely oblivious to the mutual exclusivity of those two concepts, both of which are in fact false.

Krugman's written several columns over the last four years trying to prevent a belief in "structural" unemployment because of the long-term damage (a "lost decade" or several) likely to be caused by policies formed by believers in such a myth.

BigSkullF*ckingDog May 23, 2012 at 9:44 am

The correct view of wealth is that you work very hard to be born into the right family and have the skills to inherit it from your daddy.

finallyhappy May 23, 2012 at 1:26 pm

hey, that is what my mommy told me- be born into a rich family next time

BaldarTFlagass May 23, 2012 at 9:44 am

Despite my belief to the contrary, sometimes I really hope that there is a Hell, and that it's full of idiots like this.

ManchuCandidate May 23, 2012 at 9:49 am

It's called the WaPo OpEd section.

shortsandpants May 23, 2012 at 9:57 am

It is occassionally known as the WaPo Stupid Part. And in some circles it is simply known as "Mornings With Helen Keller's Protege."

Wile E. Quixote May 23, 2012 at 1:47 pm

Well if there is then of course it is, because Jenny Rubin is a Jew. And while all dogs might go to Heaven no Jew will unless they get their minds right, ditch Judaism and get in tight with Jesus. It's all there in the Bible.

deanbooth May 23, 2012 at 9:44 am

There must be something rotten in the very core of a social system which increases its wealth without diminishing its misery. — Uncle Karl

True or false, Jennifer? …Take your time, I'll wait.

BaldarTFlagass May 23, 2012 at 9:47 am

Dang, my next comment was going to be "Your move, Karl Marx." Glad I refreshed the screen.

HobbesEvilTwin May 23, 2012 at 9:46 am

At least Jen's blaming the poorz now, instead of the mooslims.
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/07/23/2773

Tundra Grifter May 23, 2012 at 9:46 am

I, for one, would welcome capitalism to the good old US of A. Let's give it a try and see if it really does work.

Whatever system we have right now, it certainly isn't straight up capitalism.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 10:29 am

Personally, I would welcome democracy to the USA. It just could work, you know?

Tundra Grifter May 23, 2012 at 10:40 am

Nah.

pdiddycornchips May 23, 2012 at 12:02 pm

Capitalism died in '08 when we decided the banks needed taxpayer bailouts or the sky would fall in. What we have now is a Corporatist system. Once we have outlived our economic usefulness, we're fucked. That's the New American way. Work until your body gives out and then die slowly of starvation and exposure. Of course, this system has been tried several times throughout history and the result is usually violent revolution. When enough people get hungry enough, they tend to throw out the normal rules of behavior and the slaughter begins. I give us about ten years.

Mahousu May 23, 2012 at 9:46 am

We can get rid of the revolving door between Monsanto and the FDA by getting rid of the FDA. After all, businesses are already going to be careful not to kill off too many of their customers, since then, duh, fewer customers. So why do we need government to set kill quotas, er, health and safety regulations?

Skullfry Buddha May 23, 2012 at 10:27 am

As if they need customers. In the future, the wealthy will "earn" their money by re-trenching their derivatives through the amortification of frangible money according to the Laffer Curve.

Doktor StrangeZoom May 23, 2012 at 10:36 am

Let them hurry up and die then, and reduce the surplus population

PubOption May 23, 2012 at 11:16 am

That sounds like communism, consider Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.

not that Radio May 23, 2012 at 11:20 am

There's a fragile balance to be struck between reducing surplus population and retaining enough barely-alive worker/slaves to keep the mines running. Nose to spite your face, etc etc

SaintRond May 23, 2012 at 9:46 am

For me, when Romney wears his mommy pants, he seems to magically transform into the spirit of America.

BTY… About this article… What can I say but, that cunt.

Peace… God bless…

OneYieldRegular May 23, 2012 at 9:49 am

The way Republicans preach the glories of capitalism is starting to wander into realms of delusion previously accessible only to Scientologists and RONPAUL2012VOLUTIONaries.

actor212 May 23, 2012 at 9:49 am

…[Bain's] “brand” of capitalism is capitalism

Uh, Jennifer?

We, uh, don't….we aren't a capitalist state. We're a corporatist state and yes, Bain is pure Corporatism.

Capitalism eschews the corporate entity, full stop. Smith's entire basis for capitalism– enlightened self-interest creates a greater good– has a huge codicil that glib assholes like yourself always choose to ignore: Smith said that the producers MUST ALWAYS TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIVITIES.

It was a requirement of capitalism and ironically, is best espoused by the Marxist cliche "Workers should own the means of production."

doloras May 23, 2012 at 5:22 pm

People forget that Karl Marx was the last great classical economist, in that he took Adam Smith's insights to their logical conclusion. And at that point, the capitalists got scared and said we're moving with our aunty and uncle in Bel Air invented some mumbo-jumbo called "neo-classical economics" which all modern economics is based on, which is why it doesn't work.

Baconzgood May 23, 2012 at 9:50 am

I'm starting to hate this rich shouldn't have to pay taxes rhetoric. It's getting old. If the GOP had it's way anyone making over 10 million a year would pay a tax rate of 0% and get food stamps.

starfanglednut May 23, 2012 at 10:04 am

They'd get 1 million per month in food stamps . Caviar ain't cheap.

FakaktaSouth May 23, 2012 at 9:50 am

Our economic opportunities are limited only by the impediments that government (taxes, stifling regulation, etc.) and individuals (lack of skills and work ethic) impose.

Yes, when will America's factory workers attain the needed skills to keep working the jobs their corporate overlords are eliminating at factories that have been shut down? Stand your ground factory worker! Anybody tries to tell you to go home cause you're fired, you know what to do.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 10:12 am

Why thats so easy to answer, you silly liberal you. We just need to free our factories from these pesky pollution, safety, wage and hour, and other such regulations. If we could just bring back good old fashioned pollution-belching sweatshops, why, we'd be able to compete with China on a level playing field! Free Trade! The World Is Flat! Whoooo-hooo!

FakaktaSouth May 23, 2012 at 10:22 am

I swear to God, in my head (a scary, scary place, I know) what I see when they start talking about self reliance, lack of skills, all that – I see the dirt play yard in Oneonta, Alabama (Don't get no better'n Blount County baby) where my Great Grandmother used to make me go to VBS with these weird ass cracker kids in a tiny Baptist Church my GreatGrandfather built, but would never attend. ANYway, I just imagine throwing a kid in that dirt play yard with nothing in it, a chicken wire fence keeping the kid penned in and yelling, HEY! What the fuck is wrong with you? DO SOMETHING.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 10:32 am

Whats the worst is that when peoples do find something thats low-investment, high return, and manage to start a succesful entrepenuerial business, then the government comes around and tells them that growing pot and cooking meth is illegal!

prommie May 23, 2012 at 10:32 am

Whats a VBS?

FakaktaSouth May 23, 2012 at 10:33 am

Vacation Bible School, you heathern.

An_Outhouse May 23, 2012 at 11:31 am

Fewer regulations would help lower the life expectancy age, freeing up more jobs and lowering Social Security and Medicare costs! Win, Win, Win.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 10:52 am

This is your greatest post ever, by the way. I bow in your direction. I am going to create 50 new identities so I can upfist it 50 times.

Oblios_Cap May 23, 2012 at 9:52 am

Hence, we have unemployment insurance and an array of social safety-net programs.

Straight from the horse's mouth.

Really? Hasn't unemployment insurance been drastically reduced, for "austerity", and hasn't the GOP frayed the socail safety net rather badly?

How can she spout this shit with a straight face?

BaldarTFlagass May 23, 2012 at 9:58 am

Look closely, and you'll see that if the Republicans have their way, America's safety net will have the strength and resilience of a spider web. Hell, you don't even have to look real close, really.

freakishlywrong May 23, 2012 at 10:02 am

"Let them eat foodstamps".

Doktor StrangeZoom May 23, 2012 at 10:13 am

"Nobody wants to fall into a safety net, because it means the structure in which they’ve been living is in a state of collapse and they have no choice but to tumble downwards. However, it beats the alternative."

–Lemony Snicket

Wile E. Quixote May 23, 2012 at 1:33 pm

How can she spout this shit with a straight face?

Because she's an evil, lying, hate-filled neoconservative whore. Oh wait, damnit, that was another one of those "rhetorical" questions right? Man I hate those, asking a question without expecting a reply, is that Zen or something, because I fucking hate Zen.

shortsandpants May 23, 2012 at 9:52 am

Be sure to enjoy her screeds with a man-sized portion of twat waffles. If you cannot afford twat-waffles, you obviously aren't working hard enough.

WIDTAP May 23, 2012 at 9:54 am

"Our economic opportunities are limited only by the impediments that government (taxes, stifling regulation, etc.) and individuals (lack of skills and work ethic) impose."

…and availability of finance,
and availability of customers with money to spend,
and cost of materials,
and public safety,
and….

It's almost as if she doesn't understand economics at all.

BornInATrailer May 23, 2012 at 9:55 am

Did someone make a sandwich joke about not wanting to eat that Rubin?

Skullfry Buddha May 23, 2012 at 10:21 am

What the hell does the sauerkraut represent?

Tundra Grifter May 23, 2012 at 10:41 am

Right sandwich.

Wrong sauce. Call the witch doctor!

Which doctor?

No – the Witch Doctor!

SorosBot May 23, 2012 at 9:56 am

"If Bain or the 1 percent are getting rich, as Obama would have us believe, then others are getting poorer or are being defrauded."

Uh, yeah; that is a correct view of wealth, because that is how capitalism works, so to call that an "incorrect view of wealth" is a, what do you call it, lie. But then she also throws out "Second, capitalism is unmatched in its ability to lift and keep people out of poverty" which is also a giant whopper of a lie. This is, in fact, a pants-on-fire, lie-of-the-year worthy lie.

LetUsBray May 23, 2012 at 10:13 am

Don't ask PolitiFact to say so, however, because Both Sides Do It.

PsycWench May 23, 2012 at 9:56 am

"Our economic opportunities are limited only by the impediments that government (taxes, stifling regulation, etc.) and individuals (lack of skills and work ethic) impose. "

Seems like my kid came home in fourth grade or so with a list of Stuff That Increases Wealth and it included something like resources. You know, the stuff that poor people don't have much of. But that's ok…they don't have resources because they're poor and that is only fair.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 10:10 am

Long time no see. Thats pidgin, did you know that?

FakaktaSouth May 23, 2012 at 10:11 am

Resources? Please. Next they're going to want some sort of functioning educational system that would also influence and hopefully increase the capabilities of a particular skill-set in a poor person. We can't just be going around teaching people stuff and PROVIDING these "opportunities" now, can we? Wouldn't be fair at ALL.

DahBoner May 23, 2012 at 11:02 am

Actually, poor people do have "resources", but it's shared and called "the commons".

It's rich people's job to "take the commons" and destroy them by taking the resources for their own private profits…

Stevola May 23, 2012 at 12:16 pm

You don't expect these people to think at a fourth grade level, do you?

Mumbletypeg May 23, 2012 at 9:56 am

hahaha I just checked my horoscope on The Onion – -

While it's true you're not the brightest person around, take solace in the fact that you're not going to win any beauty contests, either.

Jennifer I can't find your month or year of birth online so I'm just gonna let you have my horoscope since it applies~

#checkmylookinthemirrorwannachangemyclothesmyhairmyface

Abernathy May 23, 2012 at 9:59 am

How to Win the Fight for Free Enterprise: Thinly disguise an ad for crummy books as a political op-ed. Free Enterprise wins!

elburritodeluxe May 23, 2012 at 10:02 am

That dude looks like a girl!

Skullfry Buddha May 23, 2012 at 10:20 am

Ugh…imagine her and Ann Coulter knockin' boots together.

not that Radio May 23, 2012 at 10:05 am

Third place is, you're fired.

Fare la Volpe May 23, 2012 at 10:06 am

If Bain or the 1 percent are getting rich, as Obama would have us believe, then others are getting poorer or are being defrauded

YES. GOD. HOW DO YOU NOT GET THIS?

Skullfry Buddha May 23, 2012 at 10:12 am

To be fair, it's hard to see society's ills when your view is blocked by the enormous Koch cock filling your mouth.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 10:44 am

Finance is a zero-sum game, whereas manufacturing is not. Another of the reasons a finance-based economy isn't really an economy at all.

Thurman Munster IV May 23, 2012 at 10:08 am

As a Jew I think I am allowed to say, "what's the thing about Jews and money?". How much is enough?

Skullfry Buddha May 23, 2012 at 10:17 am

"How much is enough?"

All of it, Katie.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 10:37 am

And whats the thing about jews and taxes? How little is little enough? Of course, thats really something to be said of all GOPers.

DahBoner May 23, 2012 at 10:58 am

This is why we can't put Ayn Rand's picture on the $3 bill….

el_donaldo May 23, 2012 at 10:09 am

The real question is why anyone continues to give this dull-witted turd-blossom a platform to spew her knee-jerk idiocy.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 10:09 am

My big corporate executive older brother likes to go around spouting right wing shit that sounds suspiciously like he got it from Limbaugh, though he swears he doesn't listen to Limbaugh so it must be the Wall Street Journal. And he lived overseas for the longest time and he would come home and pontificate about how the US is doomed because of the liberals and the regulations strangling business (because like child labor and workplace safety and pollution regulations, such as) and also too the welfare and social programs.

Then his proud American company got taken over by a Swedish company, and they shitcanned him. Because, you know, no company could ever succeed in that socialist place of socialism and free love and medical care.

thatsitfortheother1 May 23, 2012 at 10:32 am

My multimillionaire Republican brother in law cashed out in '09 with the Dow at about 8500. Yes, he belived some right wing tool's prediction that it was headed to zero. I realized at some point during the recovery that I was pocketing his hard earned cash. Lol.

fuflans May 23, 2012 at 11:21 am

from the crap my mom spots, wsj editorials (at least) are very very close to limbaugh land.

Doktor StrangeZoom May 23, 2012 at 10:10 am

Look, do you want to live in “other, less successful economic models” — like the kind of social democracy they have in Sweden, where everyone has free health care and education and paid maternity leave? DO YOU?

yes, please. I for one would rather like this.

pdiddycornchips May 23, 2012 at 12:46 pm

Norway enjoys the highest standard of living in the developed world. They have the most upward mobility as well. We're like 12th of 13th. So when she says "other, less successful models", she's assuming we're too dumb to fact check her ass. Our standard of living has been eroding for several decades. We work more hours, enjoy less time off, and have more personal debt than most of our peers. Our production per average worker is among the highest in the world. So, we work harder, take less time off and are more productive than most other countries. That should generate a better standard of living right? Unfortunately for us, we also have one of the highest inequality ratios in the developed world. All our productivity produces huge profits which go to the top and stays there. They buy themselves toys and invest in hedge funds but they do not reinvest that money here in the good old USA.

Someday, someone is going to articulate this story better than I can and a Nationalist movement will be born. It will result in violence and pit neighbor against neighbor. The gutters will run red with the blood of the innocent and the not so innocent. Cities will burn, government will collapse and we'll descend into chaos.
That's what I keep telling myself anyway. Otherwise, it's just too depressing to think about.

Doktor StrangeZoom May 23, 2012 at 5:00 pm

Yeah, but we have something they don't have: Freedom.

Why do you hate America so much?

pdiddycornchips May 23, 2012 at 5:42 pm

I love America but we have this sort of pimp/whore relationship dynamic. Sure America can be kind and say the right things when it's just the two of us but when I look into the eyes of America, I can see what's really going on. She's thinking "bitch better have my money".

Skullfry Buddha May 23, 2012 at 10:10 am

Welcome to the new feudalism.

proudgrampa May 23, 2012 at 10:11 am

“There is nobody in this country who got rich on their own. Nobody. You built a factory out there – good for you. But I want to be clear. You moved your goods to market on roads the rest of us paid for. You hired workers the rest of us paid to educate. You were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn't have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory… Now look. You built a factory and it turned into something terrific or a great idea – God bless! Keep a hunk of it. But part of the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along.”
― Elizabeth Warren

This is all there is to say. Except, FUCK YOU JENNIFER RUBIN!

MilwaukeeKent May 23, 2012 at 10:12 am

I had a business lunch with the Invisible Hand of the Marketplace once. When it wasn't trying to grope the waitress it was picking its nose or its ass. Seemed to have forgotten its wallet, of course, so could I cover this one? The whole thing was horrible…

MMathS May 23, 2012 at 10:12 am

There's an old Yiddish word for Republican Jew: "Presbyterian"

MosesInvests May 23, 2012 at 11:49 am

Actually, it's Episcopalian, I think.

starfanglednut May 23, 2012 at 10:15 am

Oh fer fucks sake, where do I even begin?

"capitalism is the greatest wealth-creator the world has ever known"

While it is true that captalism lifts people from poverty, it always does so by externalizing costs, particularly environmental costs. So down the road, our generation's great grandchildren (thanks, "family values" party) will have whatever wealth was created for them by capitalism negated by the costs of environmental destruction.

Also too, the capitalist model of economic growth through increased consumption, leads inevitably to unsustainable use of non renewable resources. If I remember correctly, in order for the world's population to live like an average American, we would need 9, count 'em, 9 earths.

This shows that not only is their economic model bullshit, but they really don't give the slightest fuck about their own families, never mind those of others, nor the "creation" discussed in their precious religion.

sullivanst May 23, 2012 at 10:35 am

Republicans are largely incapable of distinguishing between wealth creation and wealth capture.

Finance sector executives are universally incapable of making that distinction.

Also, this is bullshit:

If Bain or the 1 percent are getting rich, as Obama would have us believe, then others are getting poorer or are being defrauded. So, naturally, government must step in to rearrange the slices of the pie. But we know that is not the case.

Actually, in the case of Bain, if Bain is getting rich, then absolutely, 100% unequivocally, the rest of us are getting poorer. Wealth capture, as practiced by private equity firms, is a zero-sum game, everything they extract, the rest of us lose.

It's true that if one person benefits from the fruit of their own productivity, no-one else is poorer as a result. But to believe that a CEO produces anything of economic value, you have to have a complete lack of understanding of what capital actually is. CEO wages make the rest of us poorer. Even if you believe that the money isn't being taken away from anyone else (and in more healthy economies, including most of American history, much of what goes towards CEO pay in modern America would be spent instead on employee compensation), that it is essentially being plucked from a money tree, it still makes the rest of us poorer through inflation. The meaning of owning fiat currency is that it represents a claim on a proportion of the future productivity of the issuing nation; the size of that pie isn't fixed because productivity is variable, but it is nothing like as elastic as Rubin would have her readers believe; anyone who takes a bigger slice without commensurately growing the pie, basically everyone in the finance and shadow finance sectors – yes, including Bain – plus almost all of the executive class, is leaving less for the rest of us.

starfanglednut May 23, 2012 at 11:31 am

Thanks for explaining it in terms I can understand. Normally, discussion of the intricacies of economics makes my eye glaze over and my brain hurt.

pdiddycornchips May 23, 2012 at 12:56 pm

Capitalism could be part of the answer. Of course, there's no such thing as a taxpayer bailout in a true Capitalist system and taxes need to keep pace with government spending. If we tried that, who knows? It just might work.

actor212 May 23, 2012 at 10:20 am

Fapping is impossible to this post.

Allmighty_Manos May 23, 2012 at 10:20 am

And you know who else said capitalism is the greatest wealth-creator the world has ever known?

thatsitfortheother1 May 23, 2012 at 10:41 am

PeeWee Herman?

An_Outhouse May 23, 2012 at 11:26 am

Willy Wonka?

glamourdammerung May 23, 2012 at 12:05 pm

Secular government opponent Adolf Hitler?

Doktor StrangeZoom May 23, 2012 at 5:01 pm

Torgo?

sullivanst May 23, 2012 at 10:21 am

I think it's high time we palletted up a few million hardback copies of On The Wealth Of Nations and started dropping them (still palletted, of course) on the houses of pundits who feel compelled to demonstrate their utter ignorance of Adam Smith's work. Starting with Jenny Rubin, of course. Because we love them so!

DahBoner May 23, 2012 at 10:23 am

Karl Marx understands Capitalism.

Conservatives have heard of Karl Marx.

Therefore, Conservatives know everything about Capitalism.

Except for like, the facts and truth and stuff…

Guppy May 23, 2012 at 10:25 am

Why does she seem to be giving off Cherenkov radiation in that picture?

not that Radio May 23, 2012 at 11:26 am

She's actually way stupider than she appears in our reference frame, but that would violate causality, so she has to spontaneously decelerate when we view her.

Guppy May 23, 2012 at 11:43 am

And the fact that I understood that is why girls never talked to me in high school.

not that Radio May 23, 2012 at 11:47 am

Hey — did you hear about the Leap Second Announcement? We can start making guest lists for our Leap Second Parties.

Here is a countdown clock, which will display 11:59:60 in real time when the leapsecond is added.

Guppy May 23, 2012 at 2:38 pm

19:59:60 or GTFO

sullivanst May 23, 2012 at 12:01 pm

It's not because you were on the Heaviside?

Guppy May 23, 2012 at 2:44 pm

It's funny that you mention that just as I get down to my high school (over) weight.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 10:27 am

You know, her article is really on exactly the same level as the Breit-tards thing about Obama's SAT score. She takes a word or two out of context, then makes a wholely unwarranted sweeping and simplistic assumption about what Obama does or does not understand (Obama doesn't understand capitalism? Think about that statement, its fucking so vague as to be meaningless), then, having created this straw man, she goes on to slay it, slowly and boringly, ad nauseum. Plus, bomb Iran. Fuck this shit, man.

Wile E. Quixote May 23, 2012 at 1:28 pm

Carly Fiorina, who I love because as CEO of Hewlett Packard she transferred millions of dollars out of the pockets of HP shareholders and into the pockets of Amazon.com shareholders like me, wrote a similar column in CNBC the other day. I have to wonder if the wingers are co-ordinating this bullshit or if they're just coming up with it on their own.

__kth__ May 23, 2012 at 10:35 am

Rubin is deliberately misstating Obama's argument here. Despite being a post-colonial revolutionary Marxist, Obama isn't arguing that the presence of companies like Bain is bad for the economy. He's merely arguing that working for one is no special qualification for the Presidency, in either the senses of "job creation", stewardship of the economy, or in a general sense.

There's an argument to be made that slash-and-burners like Bain are bad for the economy, but Obama isn't making that argument at all.

charliearglist May 23, 2012 at 10:42 am

This was in the Washington Post and not the Washington Times? How did the Moonies let this one get away?

finallyhappy May 23, 2012 at 1:31 pm

The WaPo likes to pander to the right in hopes of boosting its dying circulation. They also just let 30+ people go. Maybe the Times and the Post will start sharing offices and reporters

Tundra Grifter May 23, 2012 at 10:46 am

After Germany, the strongest economies in Europe appear to be Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Finland.

Finland has one of the best health care systems – not sick care, as we sorta have here in the US of A, but genuine health care – in the world. The right wing nutz rant about Britian because they can aggregate horror stories from the English press. They never mention Finland's roaring success.

All these nations are at least quasi-socialist.

Just how can this be?

Wile E. Quixote May 23, 2012 at 1:37 pm

Yeah, Israel is pretty socialist too. Probably why Rubin doesn't exercise her right of return and instead chooses to live in the US of A.

Tundra Grifter May 23, 2012 at 9:44 pm

I recently learned there are "ultra-Orthodox" people living in Israel who don't have to serve in the army. Apparently they don't even work – they have unemployment insurance benefits for life.

Meanwhile, I certainly believe in the Right of Return. That's one reason I like Nordstrom – they'll take anything back.

Wile E. Quixote May 23, 2012 at 1:53 pm

Oh, and Iceland, which told its bankers to go fuck themselves, is recovering faster from the 2008 debt crisis than Ireland, which bailed out its bankers is.

Tundra Grifter May 23, 2012 at 9:44 pm

Funny how that works, isn't it? Ya do the right thing and it just pays off for ya.

Manhattan123 May 23, 2012 at 11:15 am

Why does the little cartoon of her at her WashPost column make it look like shes in her 20s, maybe early 30s. Looking at that mug, she's got to be in her 50s easy. Either that or she is in her 20s and is just plain fugly.

rickmaci May 23, 2012 at 11:57 am

It's not her looks but her ideas that are ugly.

Wile E. Quixote May 23, 2012 at 1:51 pm

No, her looks are pretty ugly too.

rickmaci May 23, 2012 at 2:12 pm

Touche. She is 50 years old and looks like my 94 year old aunt. I guess that could be one reason for being a bitter, wretched, hag.

politics_nerd May 23, 2012 at 11:24 am

Work ethnic. Hmmm.

An_Outhouse May 23, 2012 at 11:25 am

Could a Jew look more Jewy?

rickmaci May 23, 2012 at 11:37 am

We can roll our eyes, wring our hands and blog all day about why these people say the toxic things they say, that all boil down to stigmatizing Barack Obama as an "other" and not a real American. In the end, there is one basic reality — they are all morally bankrupt bigots, less violent than Nazis and the KKK, but racists none the less.

Callyson May 23, 2012 at 11:49 am

I’ll let them know that they’re poor because they have no skills or work ethnic

Usually the wingnuts use the euphemism "work ethic," but this cuts to the chase of what they really mean to say…

Also, don't tell me that we are compassionate because we have a social safety net and then turn around and try to destroy it, also, too…

Estproph May 23, 2012 at 11:59 am

This is where Rubin got her understanding of economic theory:
http://www.bcdb.com/cartoon_video/546-Heir-Condit

glamourdammerung May 23, 2012 at 12:01 pm

This is the same scumbag that whined about imaginary OWS "antisemitism" in between advocating genocide as a final solution to the Palestinian question.

capitalism is the greatest wealth-creator the world has ever known

Is this including or excluding slavery?

MiniMencken May 23, 2012 at 12:18 pm

That is the face where boners go to die.

Wile E. Quixote May 23, 2012 at 12:57 pm

Wow, working at The Atlantic has really taken its toll on Megan McArdle.

Wile E. Quixote May 23, 2012 at 1:24 pm

Now that the Jews have a homeland can we ship all of the dumb, neoconservative Jews like Jenny Rubin and the Likudzi punks at the AEI over there so they can bitch about the Haredim and the Palestinians so we don't have to put up with their bullshit in America? Seriously, we need the neocons in America like we need the Sinaloa cartel and a bunch of Al Qaeda cells.

finallyhappy May 23, 2012 at 1:35 pm

No, because we have been shipped out of lots of places already. American Jews have as much right to be assholes as anyone else. I don't like her bullshit either but as a Jew- I find your remarks offensive- even if you are a Jew yourself.

imissopus May 23, 2012 at 2:04 pm

Seconded.

Exhausted66 May 23, 2012 at 1:38 pm

Look at what the humidity does to Malcolm Gladwell's hair.

mavenmaven May 23, 2012 at 1:39 pm

Someone needs to explain to these people what constitutional democracy means; what it isn't supposed to mean is that the rich and the majority rule.
Aside from the fact that Israel is much more like Sweden in every "socialist" way (including generally free medical care for people from Gaza and the West Bank, and many who stream in from Jordan for care, as the medical establishment, fortunately, is much to the left).

Wile E. Quixote May 23, 2012 at 1:49 pm

Oh, in case you're wondering, from the picture posted on the artcile header, if Jennifer Rubin is bitter because she's a transsexual who has suffered grievously at the hands of an incompetent plastic surgeon here's another picture that will do absolutely nothing to dispel that belief.

littlebigdaddy May 23, 2012 at 1:56 pm

Gawd, her photo's way scarier than her byline drawing. She looks like Coulter's sephardic sister.

Ducksworthy May 23, 2012 at 1:59 pm

And also, why can't we have the kind of free health care and tight social safety net they have in socialist Israel? Oh right, the defense (of Israel) budget.

joobajooba May 23, 2012 at 1:59 pm

I lived in Sweden for three years. It was fucking awesome. Kinda of like America, but better bike lanes and public transport, dependable medical care, reasonable working hours, spectacular summer vacations, open sexual attitudes, safe cars. Oh, and without the poors.

George Skullfry May 23, 2012 at 2:07 pm

"Our economic opportunities are limited only by the impediments that government (taxes, stifling regulation, etc.) and individuals (lack of skills and work ethic) impose."

Okay, for taxes, how about this: Reduce the maximum income tax rate to, say, 20%. In exchange, increase the inheritance tax rate to 100%.

Because, according to Jennifer Rubin, our "economic opportunities" are apparently not influenced by our ancestors' economic success, at all.

BZ1 May 23, 2012 at 2:19 pm

Bain is in it to make money. Period.full.stop.

Me_K_Cong May 23, 2012 at 5:54 pm

She doesn't even say what she means:

"If Bain or the 1 percent are getting rich, as Obama would have us believe,"

[If the rich are rich and Obama would have us believe it...]

" then others are getting poorer or are being defrauded. "

Hoisted_Peatard May 23, 2012 at 7:38 pm

Jennifer Rubin is an idiot for SO many reasons (selective use of facts in the wrong context, presenting an alternate reality as reality itself) but one of her more hilarious columns was the one about Ryan and Widen. Okay, so obviously they blame Obama for partisan intransigence but then she comes out to praise a bipartisan approach that's essentially a carbon copy of the latest Republican candidate for Presnit's scheme, er plan to loot the social safety net. Huzzah, wha? You demented, prominent brow having imbecile…bipartisanship means GIVE and TAKE, it doesn't mean "sign off on a blanket Republican plan and call it bipartisan"…people like this irritate the shit out of me. Widen's useful idiocy just proved the old axiom: "Bipartisanship to a conservative is agreeing with all of their ideas while offering none of your own"…shut up, you ignorant she-bitch and take your ideologically infused pabulum about "undiluted" capitalism with you.

ttommyunger May 24, 2012 at 7:56 am

So many words just to let us know: "I suck Wall Street Cock".

Doktor StrangeZoom May 23, 2012 at 10:38 am

Eleanor Roosevelt and Jimmy Carter: Separated at birth?

prommie May 23, 2012 at 10:45 am

Oh dear lord, that sounds like the 7th circle of hell. Though I do send my boy to a Quaker summer camp. And the little fucker actually speaks at meeting.

prommie May 23, 2012 at 10:50 am

Holy moly, I just realized, the little dude is raising himself a Quaker! What with that I haven't been back to the Episcopal church since the great Gay Bishop Schism of ought-four.

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