Jennifer Rubin Opens Yap

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Let them read BrooksDoes Barack Obama understand capitalism? This is a legitimate question that Jennifer Rubin of the Washington Post would like answered, given that Obama is a Socialist bully who uses intemperate language and who is NEVER EVER THERE for America’s bff Israel and MIGHT take powers granted to him by Obamacare to legislate “new and previously unimaginable infringements on individual liberty and decimating the federal structure of our government.“ His recent attacks on poor, defenseless Bain Capital can only mean one thing: Obama does not understand Capitalism, because duh.

…[Bain's] “brand” of capitalism is capitalism, and in its undiluted state does create hardship, but nothing in comparison to the amount of suffering inherent in other, less successful economic models. Two points should be kept in mind. First, we don’t have undiluted capitalism precisely because, while capitalism is the greatest wealth-creator the world has ever known (I think Obama even said this), we don’t as a compassionate society want undue suffering in the short term. Hence, we have unemployment insurance and an array of social safety-net programs.

Look, do you want to live in “other, less successful economic models” — like the kind of social democracy they have in Sweden, where everyone has free health care and education and paid maternity leave? DO YOU? Do you EVEN KNOW what kind of freedom and liberty you’d lose? And the suffering, my god, the suffering. Because nothing compares to the amount of suffering you see amongst those Swedish commie socialist pinkos, not even the minimal amount of suffering you might see in undiluted capitalism, which we don’t even HAVE.

If we had that, we’d leave everything up to the whims of the invisible hand of the market. Instead, we let banks write their own legislation and decide which rules they play by, and install a sort of revolving door between Monsanto and the FDA, and worship the holy alliance of Goldman Sachs and the Fed. And if anyone accidentally gets left out of all of this wealth creation, it’s probably because they are stupid losers. Lucky for them, we have the social safety net — you know, the one that Jennifer Rubin wants Paul Ryan to destroy? That one. But we really don’t even NEED the safety net because the most important thing about capitalism is that it helps the poor.

Second, capitalism is unmatched in its ability to lift and keep people out of poverty. (On this topic I would heartily recommend “Wealth and Justice: The Morality of Democratic Capitalism” by Peter Wehner and Arthur Brooks, as well as Brooks’s new book, “The Road to Freedom: How to Win the Fight for Free Enterprise.”)

Yes, I’ll go on ahead and send those titles to the 46.2 million Americans that were living below the poverty line in 2011, and let them know that they have Jennifer Rubin’s hearty recommendation. While I’m at it, I’ll let  them know that they’re poor because they have no skills or work ethic, or possibly because of stifling regulation, one or the other, they can take their pick, you know, whichever feels right. Hopefully they will be sufficiently shamed into being Productive members of society. But anyway, the thing about attacking Bain is that it is an Incorrect view of wealth. There is a Correct view and an Incorrect view, and guess which one Obama has? You’ll never guess!

Part of the problem with the Bain attacks, as well as the Buffett rule and Obama’s anti-Wall Street rhetoric, is a peculiar, and essentially incorrect view, of wealth. If Bain or the 1 percent are getting rich, as Obama would have us believe, then others are getting poorer or are being defrauded. So, naturally, government must step in to rearrange the slices of the pie. But we know that is not the case. Our economic opportunities are limited only by the impediments that government (taxes, stifling regulation, etc.) and individuals (lack of skills and work ethic) impose.

You know, Jennifer Rubin makes an excellent point. It IS peculiar, isn’t it? And incorrect. There is a “correct” view of wealth, which is basically that if someone has wealth, it in no way came from the increased productivity of employees or the purchasing power of consumers; no sir. It came from hard work and stick-to-itiveness. And also, that rich people shouldn’t have to contribute to the public good, because that would be punishment and would discourage them from making themselves EVEN MORE MONEY. WINNERS NEVER QUIT AND QUITTERS NEVER WIN, because this is capitalism, the very best system of them all! So just sit back, and let the wealth trickle down in a golden shower of capitalism….

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201 comments

  1. Barb

    Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's the "trickle down" effect, please. The wealthy "job creators" really don't care if we get a slice of the pie.

    Give them a chance to bring the jobs back from the foreign countries that they farmed them out to or take away their tax incentives. Just move the jobs back to America and put our people back to work.

    1. freakishlywrong

      I don't know why this isn't being pointed out more, (well, fuck, yes I do). The noble jawb creators are hoarding all those tax breaks and whinging about the mean Democrat Party. JesusHTittyfucking Christ. The ignorance.

    2. actor212

      Hear hear! Tax cuts on the rich have not produced jobs in this country, full stop.

      Tax cuts on the middle class– people who make less than $50,000 from their shops and offices– who own 95% of the small businesses that create 90% of the new jobs in this nation…do the math…always, ALWAYS, create hiring.

      1. prommie

        There you go again, with your empirical measurements and verified cause and effect relationships. Just like a liberal, to bring facts to a rhetoric fight. USA! USA! always wins.

    3. prommie

      Well, you know, it is called the "trickle" down effect, noone promised it would pour down in buckets.

    4. yrbmegr

      You misunderstand. You are poor because I am not rich enough. See how simple that is?

    5. lulzmonger

      Au contraire: I think the JERB CRATORZ care very much that you do NOT get a slice of the pie – at least not a slice any bigger than you need to survive, with perhaps a little extra for payments on the latest model of plasma-screen/gerbil-dewormer/GPS/Thighmaster.

      "Oh you silly peasants! You don't want any of this yucky filthy mountain of money! Money just leads to Super-PACs … & everyone knows Super-PACs are for The Right Kind Of People only!"

  2. Limeylizzie

    Good, maybe she is getting her teeth bleached, because they are disgustingly yellow.

    1. V572 Is this him?

      If you wake up early on weekend mornings, you can see her live on the yak shows.

      Do not do this.

      Either she refuses the available hair and makeup assistance, or they're doing the best they can.

        1. V572 Is this him?

          It’s really shallow to criticize a woman for being unattractive. (No one points out that evil war dwarf Henry Kissinger looks like a troll.) But when her arguments are so tired, vapid and so obviously stem from the undeserved sense of privilege that stems from WaPo op-ed-ness, there’s nothing left to attack. It’s a dirty job, but someone’s got to do it.

          1. Texan_Bulldog

            I agree. That's why you'll never hear me talking shit about Golda Meir or Eleanor Roosevelt.

    2. prommie

      Jesus Christ, I am glad I am going in for a full set of caps next month, I wouldn't want to get judged by this crowd.

      1. Limeylizzie

        When you've been judged by a Brit about the state of your teeth you know it's bad.

        1. Crank_Tango

          I just don't want to know what is frosting her lucky charms. I am picturing something like the fuzzy rind on stinky french cheese.

    1. Maman

      Hm, I thought it was claiming credit for the accomplishments of others while providing nothing in the way of effort yourself.

  3. Douché

    I think the best part of her trickled down, ah forget it, I'm not motivated enough to finish my snark. Back to bed and waiting for my welfare check.

  4. BaldarTFlagass

    Man, it's really unfortunate for Ayn Rand's daughter that she got her mom's looks.

  5. MarionNYNY

    Jennifer Rubin needs to get out of the country more.

    Also, I'm confused by the paradox, how can Obama be both anti-Wall Street as she's saying, and somehow in bed with Wall Street as other wingers keep pointing out <a href="http://(http://www.theamericanmaverick.com/2012/03/new-video-exposes-obama-wall-street.html)” target=”_blank”>(http://www.theamericanmaverick.com/2012/03/new-video-exposes-obama-wall-street.html) ?

    Then again I don't understand how he can be a gay, Muslim member of a radical church either.

    1. Wile E. Quixote

      Jennifer Rubin needs to get out of the country more.

      And once she's out of the country she needs to stay there.

  6. Texan_Bulldog

    Jennifer is just bitter because she is not very pretty and probably never got asked to the prom. And, man, she really hates the poorz.

      1. Chichikovovich

        She learned the truth at 17, that life was meant for beauty queens….

        …or at least, that they were the only ones who could get away with writing things as brainless as her columns.

        1. Wile E. Quixote

          She still is, gay and progressive that is. Oh, and she's a huge science fiction fan as well. Janis Ian is way cool.

    1. SaintRond

      Poor people are horrible. Rich people are wonderful and gracious and they'll do anything sexually. Poor people think getting on their knees to go down on their partner is a sign of subservience.

      I have personally seen a beautiful rich matron at a formal dinner, hike up her evening gown and urinate in a wine bottle, simply for the amusement of well heeled dinner guests. Poor people would never do that.

      Because poor people are horrible.

  7. elburritodeluxe

    Who would want to live in a Commie shithole like the Netherlands or Sweden where you get "health care" and don't die of malnutrition or exposure when you're poor!

  8. Arken

    I actually had a free marketer tell me that Sweden is a terrible place because there are still poor people there.

    No, he didn't see the irony.

  9. Chichikovovich

    [capitalism] in its undiluted state does create hardship, but nothing in comparison to the amount of suffering inherent in other, less successful economic models.

    Take a social democracy like Israel, for example. It has created untold suffering in the Occupied Territories….

    What?

    That's not her point?

    1. Doktor StrangeZoom

      Is she planning to lecture Israel on the virtues of dismantling their socialized medical system?

    2. doloras

      Israel USED to be a social democracy, but once the Likud Party became the kept boys of US foreign policy, increasing barbarity towards Palestinians combined with dismantling of the welfare system. Which is why increasingly Jews don't want to live there.

  10. freakishlywrong

    Do these dildos remember a few short months ago? Much less the fucking aughts? Newtie, Rick Purrah, Saintorum and yes, Sister Sarah spent the entire Rethug primary trashing Mittens. Because of Bain. Fuck the world.

  11. V572 Is this him?

    Our high unemployment is "structural," according to David Brooks and other unintentional humorists of the right. This is their new euphemism for "You Poors are just lazy. Look at me, I get paid well to transcribe 800 words of Koch-dictated bullshit three days a week. Why can't you quit whining and find a scam like I did?"

    1. DemmeFatale

      I have always had a real problem with David Brooks and his "aw shucks, guys" manner.
      Mr. Fatale keeps showing me "reasonable" columns he's written, but I don't trust him AT ALL.
      Now I find out that his son idolizes Boner.
      He's dead to me.

      1. V572 Is this him?

        So when an unemployed steelworker’s kid gets leukemia or diabetes and can’t get anything but emergency-room medical care because Daddy’s COBRA ran out two years ago, that’s just the “creative destruction” of capitalism. Of course another name for this sort of thinking, which you don’t hear so much anymore for some reason, is “Social Darwinism.” Maybe we need to start practicing “eugenics” again to help this evolution along.

    2. SayItWithWookies

      I thought "structural" meant it was built into the system, like the foundation of a building — you know, so Mitt's hundreds of millions are like an edifice built on the foundation of millions of poor and unemployed people. Can't be helped — that's just the way it works.

    3. sullivanst

      "Structural unemployment" isn't code for "you poors are lazy", it's code for "we're not gonna do shit to fix this mess, so suck it up losers"

      Were they not right-wingers, they would be unable to simultaneously believe that unemployment is all Obama's fault and an inherent feature of the system. But they're right-wingers, so they're entirely oblivious to the mutual exclusivity of those two concepts, both of which are in fact false.

      Krugman's written several columns over the last four years trying to prevent a belief in "structural" unemployment because of the long-term damage (a "lost decade" or several) likely to be caused by policies formed by believers in such a myth.

  12. BigSkullF*ckingDog

    The correct view of wealth is that you work very hard to be born into the right family and have the skills to inherit it from your daddy.

  13. BaldarTFlagass

    Despite my belief to the contrary, sometimes I really hope that there is a Hell, and that it's full of idiots like this.

      1. shortsandpants

        It is occassionally known as the WaPo Stupid Part. And in some circles it is simply known as "Mornings With Helen Keller's Protege."

    1. Wile E. Quixote

      Well if there is then of course it is, because Jenny Rubin is a Jew. And while all dogs might go to Heaven no Jew will unless they get their minds right, ditch Judaism and get in tight with Jesus. It's all there in the Bible.

  14. deanbooth

    There must be something rotten in the very core of a social system which increases its wealth without diminishing its misery. — Uncle Karl

    True or false, Jennifer? …Take your time, I'll wait.

    1. BaldarTFlagass

      Dang, my next comment was going to be "Your move, Karl Marx." Glad I refreshed the screen.

  15. Tundra Grifter

    I, for one, would welcome capitalism to the good old US of A. Let's give it a try and see if it really does work.

    Whatever system we have right now, it certainly isn't straight up capitalism.

    1. pdiddycornchips

      Capitalism died in '08 when we decided the banks needed taxpayer bailouts or the sky would fall in. What we have now is a Corporatist system. Once we have outlived our economic usefulness, we're fucked. That's the New American way. Work until your body gives out and then die slowly of starvation and exposure. Of course, this system has been tried several times throughout history and the result is usually violent revolution. When enough people get hungry enough, they tend to throw out the normal rules of behavior and the slaughter begins. I give us about ten years.

  16. Mahousu

    We can get rid of the revolving door between Monsanto and the FDA by getting rid of the FDA. After all, businesses are already going to be careful not to kill off too many of their customers, since then, duh, fewer customers. So why do we need government to set kill quotas, er, health and safety regulations?

    1. Skullfry Buddha

      As if they need customers. In the future, the wealthy will "earn" their money by re-trenching their derivatives through the amortification of frangible money according to the Laffer Curve.

      1. not that Radio

        There's a fragile balance to be struck between reducing surplus population and retaining enough barely-alive worker/slaves to keep the mines running. Nose to spite your face, etc etc

  17. SaintRond

    For me, when Romney wears his mommy pants, he seems to magically transform into the spirit of America.

    BTY… About this article… What can I say but, that cunt.

    Peace… God bless…

  18. OneYieldRegular

    The way Republicans preach the glories of capitalism is starting to wander into realms of delusion previously accessible only to Scientologists and RONPAUL2012VOLUTIONaries.

  19. actor212

    …[Bain's] “brand” of capitalism is capitalism

    Uh, Jennifer?

    We, uh, don't….we aren't a capitalist state. We're a corporatist state and yes, Bain is pure Corporatism.

    Capitalism eschews the corporate entity, full stop. Smith's entire basis for capitalism– enlightened self-interest creates a greater good– has a huge codicil that glib assholes like yourself always choose to ignore: Smith said that the producers MUST ALWAYS TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIVITIES.

    It was a requirement of capitalism and ironically, is best espoused by the Marxist cliche "Workers should own the means of production."

    1. doloras

      People forget that Karl Marx was the last great classical economist, in that he took Adam Smith's insights to their logical conclusion. And at that point, the capitalists got scared and said we're moving with our aunty and uncle in Bel Air invented some mumbo-jumbo called "neo-classical economics" which all modern economics is based on, which is why it doesn't work.

  20. Baconzgood

    I'm starting to hate this rich shouldn't have to pay taxes rhetoric. It's getting old. If the GOP had it's way anyone making over 10 million a year would pay a tax rate of 0% and get food stamps.

  21. FakaktaSouth

    Our economic opportunities are limited only by the impediments that government (taxes, stifling regulation, etc.) and individuals (lack of skills and work ethic) impose.

    Yes, when will America's factory workers attain the needed skills to keep working the jobs their corporate overlords are eliminating at factories that have been shut down? Stand your ground factory worker! Anybody tries to tell you to go home cause you're fired, you know what to do.

    1. prommie

      Why thats so easy to answer, you silly liberal you. We just need to free our factories from these pesky pollution, safety, wage and hour, and other such regulations. If we could just bring back good old fashioned pollution-belching sweatshops, why, we'd be able to compete with China on a level playing field! Free Trade! The World Is Flat! Whoooo-hooo!

      1. FakaktaSouth

        I swear to God, in my head (a scary, scary place, I know) what I see when they start talking about self reliance, lack of skills, all that – I see the dirt play yard in Oneonta, Alabama (Don't get no better'n Blount County baby) where my Great Grandmother used to make me go to VBS with these weird ass cracker kids in a tiny Baptist Church my GreatGrandfather built, but would never attend. ANYway, I just imagine throwing a kid in that dirt play yard with nothing in it, a chicken wire fence keeping the kid penned in and yelling, HEY! What the fuck is wrong with you? DO SOMETHING.

        1. prommie

          Whats the worst is that when peoples do find something thats low-investment, high return, and manage to start a succesful entrepenuerial business, then the government comes around and tells them that growing pot and cooking meth is illegal!

          1. prommie

            Oh dear lord, that sounds like the 7th circle of hell. Though I do send my boy to a Quaker summer camp. And the little fucker actually speaks at meeting.

          2. prommie

            Holy moly, I just realized, the little dude is raising himself a Quaker! What with that I haven't been back to the Episcopal church since the great Gay Bishop Schism of ought-four.

      2. An_Outhouse

        Fewer regulations would help lower the life expectancy age, freeing up more jobs and lowering Social Security and Medicare costs! Win, Win, Win.

    2. prommie

      This is your greatest post ever, by the way. I bow in your direction. I am going to create 50 new identities so I can upfist it 50 times.

  22. Oblios_Cap

    Hence, we have unemployment insurance and an array of social safety-net programs.

    Straight from the horse's mouth.

    Really? Hasn't unemployment insurance been drastically reduced, for "austerity", and hasn't the GOP frayed the socail safety net rather badly?

    How can she spout this shit with a straight face?

    1. BaldarTFlagass

      Look closely, and you'll see that if the Republicans have their way, America's safety net will have the strength and resilience of a spider web. Hell, you don't even have to look real close, really.

    2. Doktor StrangeZoom

      "Nobody wants to fall into a safety net, because it means the structure in which they’ve been living is in a state of collapse and they have no choice but to tumble downwards. However, it beats the alternative."

      –Lemony Snicket

    3. Wile E. Quixote

      How can she spout this shit with a straight face?

      Because she's an evil, lying, hate-filled neoconservative whore. Oh wait, damnit, that was another one of those "rhetorical" questions right? Man I hate those, asking a question without expecting a reply, is that Zen or something, because I fucking hate Zen.

  23. shortsandpants

    Be sure to enjoy her screeds with a man-sized portion of twat waffles. If you cannot afford twat-waffles, you obviously aren't working hard enough.

  24. WIDTAP

    "Our economic opportunities are limited only by the impediments that government (taxes, stifling regulation, etc.) and individuals (lack of skills and work ethic) impose."

    …and availability of finance,
    and availability of customers with money to spend,
    and cost of materials,
    and public safety,
    and….

    It's almost as if she doesn't understand economics at all.

    1. Tundra Grifter

      Right sandwich.

      Wrong sauce. Call the witch doctor!

      Which doctor?

      No – the Witch Doctor!

  25. SorosBot

    "If Bain or the 1 percent are getting rich, as Obama would have us believe, then others are getting poorer or are being defrauded."

    Uh, yeah; that is a correct view of wealth, because that is how capitalism works, so to call that an "incorrect view of wealth" is a, what do you call it, lie. But then she also throws out "Second, capitalism is unmatched in its ability to lift and keep people out of poverty" which is also a giant whopper of a lie. This is, in fact, a pants-on-fire, lie-of-the-year worthy lie.

  26. PsycWench

    "Our economic opportunities are limited only by the impediments that government (taxes, stifling regulation, etc.) and individuals (lack of skills and work ethic) impose. "

    Seems like my kid came home in fourth grade or so with a list of Stuff That Increases Wealth and it included something like resources. You know, the stuff that poor people don't have much of. But that's ok…they don't have resources because they're poor and that is only fair.

    1. FakaktaSouth

      Resources? Please. Next they're going to want some sort of functioning educational system that would also influence and hopefully increase the capabilities of a particular skill-set in a poor person. We can't just be going around teaching people stuff and PROVIDING these "opportunities" now, can we? Wouldn't be fair at ALL.

    2. DahBoner

      Actually, poor people do have "resources", but it's shared and called "the commons".

      It's rich people's job to "take the commons" and destroy them by taking the resources for their own private profits…

  27. Mumbletypeg

    hahaha I just checked my horoscope on The Onion – -

    While it's true you're not the brightest person around, take solace in the fact that you're not going to win any beauty contests, either.

    Jennifer I can't find your month or year of birth online so I'm just gonna let you have my horoscope since it applies~

    #checkmylookinthemirrorwannachangemyclothesmyhairmyface

  28. Abernathy

    How to Win the Fight for Free Enterprise: Thinly disguise an ad for crummy books as a political op-ed. Free Enterprise wins!

  29. Fare la Volpe

    If Bain or the 1 percent are getting rich, as Obama would have us believe, then others are getting poorer or are being defrauded

    YES. GOD. HOW DO YOU NOT GET THIS?

    1. Skullfry Buddha

      To be fair, it's hard to see society's ills when your view is blocked by the enormous Koch cock filling your mouth.

    2. prommie

      Finance is a zero-sum game, whereas manufacturing is not. Another of the reasons a finance-based economy isn't really an economy at all.

  30. Thurman Munster IV

    As a Jew I think I am allowed to say, "what's the thing about Jews and money?". How much is enough?

    1. prommie

      And whats the thing about jews and taxes? How little is little enough? Of course, thats really something to be said of all GOPers.

  31. prommie

    My big corporate executive older brother likes to go around spouting right wing shit that sounds suspiciously like he got it from Limbaugh, though he swears he doesn't listen to Limbaugh so it must be the Wall Street Journal. And he lived overseas for the longest time and he would come home and pontificate about how the US is doomed because of the liberals and the regulations strangling business (because like child labor and workplace safety and pollution regulations, such as) and also too the welfare and social programs.

    Then his proud American company got taken over by a Swedish company, and they shitcanned him. Because, you know, no company could ever succeed in that socialist place of socialism and free love and medical care.

    1. thatsitfortheother1

      My multimillionaire Republican brother in law cashed out in '09 with the Dow at about 8500. Yes, he belived some right wing tool's prediction that it was headed to zero. I realized at some point during the recovery that I was pocketing his hard earned cash. Lol.

    2. fuflans

      from the crap my mom spots, wsj editorials (at least) are very very close to limbaugh land.

  32. Doktor StrangeZoom

    Look, do you want to live in “other, less successful economic models” — like the kind of social democracy they have in Sweden, where everyone has free health care and education and paid maternity leave? DO YOU?

    yes, please. I for one would rather like this.

    1. pdiddycornchips

      Norway enjoys the highest standard of living in the developed world. They have the most upward mobility as well. We're like 12th of 13th. So when she says "other, less successful models", she's assuming we're too dumb to fact check her ass. Our standard of living has been eroding for several decades. We work more hours, enjoy less time off, and have more personal debt than most of our peers. Our production per average worker is among the highest in the world. So, we work harder, take less time off and are more productive than most other countries. That should generate a better standard of living right? Unfortunately for us, we also have one of the highest inequality ratios in the developed world. All our productivity produces huge profits which go to the top and stays there. They buy themselves toys and invest in hedge funds but they do not reinvest that money here in the good old USA.

      Someday, someone is going to articulate this story better than I can and a Nationalist movement will be born. It will result in violence and pit neighbor against neighbor. The gutters will run red with the blood of the innocent and the not so innocent. Cities will burn, government will collapse and we'll descend into chaos.
      That's what I keep telling myself anyway. Otherwise, it's just too depressing to think about.

      1. Doktor StrangeZoom

        Yeah, but we have something they don't have: Freedom.

        Why do you hate America so much?

        1. pdiddycornchips

          I love America but we have this sort of pimp/whore relationship dynamic. Sure America can be kind and say the right things when it's just the two of us but when I look into the eyes of America, I can see what's really going on. She's thinking "bitch better have my money".

  33. proudgrampa

    “There is nobody in this country who got rich on their own. Nobody. You built a factory out there – good for you. But I want to be clear. You moved your goods to market on roads the rest of us paid for. You hired workers the rest of us paid to educate. You were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn't have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory… Now look. You built a factory and it turned into something terrific or a great idea – God bless! Keep a hunk of it. But part of the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along.”
    ― Elizabeth Warren

    This is all there is to say. Except, FUCK YOU JENNIFER RUBIN!

  34. MilwaukeeKent

    I had a business lunch with the Invisible Hand of the Marketplace once. When it wasn't trying to grope the waitress it was picking its nose or its ass. Seemed to have forgotten its wallet, of course, so could I cover this one? The whole thing was horrible…

  35. starfanglednut

    Oh fer fucks sake, where do I even begin?

    "capitalism is the greatest wealth-creator the world has ever known"

    While it is true that captalism lifts people from poverty, it always does so by externalizing costs, particularly environmental costs. So down the road, our generation's great grandchildren (thanks, "family values" party) will have whatever wealth was created for them by capitalism negated by the costs of environmental destruction.

    Also too, the capitalist model of economic growth through increased consumption, leads inevitably to unsustainable use of non renewable resources. If I remember correctly, in order for the world's population to live like an average American, we would need 9, count 'em, 9 earths.

    This shows that not only is their economic model bullshit, but they really don't give the slightest fuck about their own families, never mind those of others, nor the "creation" discussed in their precious religion.

    1. sullivanst

      Republicans are largely incapable of distinguishing between wealth creation and wealth capture.

      Finance sector executives are universally incapable of making that distinction.

      Also, this is bullshit:

      If Bain or the 1 percent are getting rich, as Obama would have us believe, then others are getting poorer or are being defrauded. So, naturally, government must step in to rearrange the slices of the pie. But we know that is not the case.

      Actually, in the case of Bain, if Bain is getting rich, then absolutely, 100% unequivocally, the rest of us are getting poorer. Wealth capture, as practiced by private equity firms, is a zero-sum game, everything they extract, the rest of us lose.

      It's true that if one person benefits from the fruit of their own productivity, no-one else is poorer as a result. But to believe that a CEO produces anything of economic value, you have to have a complete lack of understanding of what capital actually is. CEO wages make the rest of us poorer. Even if you believe that the money isn't being taken away from anyone else (and in more healthy economies, including most of American history, much of what goes towards CEO pay in modern America would be spent instead on employee compensation), that it is essentially being plucked from a money tree, it still makes the rest of us poorer through inflation. The meaning of owning fiat currency is that it represents a claim on a proportion of the future productivity of the issuing nation; the size of that pie isn't fixed because productivity is variable, but it is nothing like as elastic as Rubin would have her readers believe; anyone who takes a bigger slice without commensurately growing the pie, basically everyone in the finance and shadow finance sectors – yes, including Bain – plus almost all of the executive class, is leaving less for the rest of us.

    2. pdiddycornchips

      Capitalism could be part of the answer. Of course, there's no such thing as a taxpayer bailout in a true Capitalist system and taxes need to keep pace with government spending. If we tried that, who knows? It just might work.

  36. Allmighty_Manos

    And you know who else said capitalism is the greatest wealth-creator the world has ever known?

  37. sullivanst

    I think it's high time we palletted up a few million hardback copies of On The Wealth Of Nations and started dropping them (still palletted, of course) on the houses of pundits who feel compelled to demonstrate their utter ignorance of Adam Smith's work. Starting with Jenny Rubin, of course. Because we love them so!

  38. DahBoner

    Karl Marx understands Capitalism.

    Conservatives have heard of Karl Marx.

    Therefore, Conservatives know everything about Capitalism.

    Except for like, the facts and truth and stuff…

    1. not that Radio

      She's actually way stupider than she appears in our reference frame, but that would violate causality, so she has to spontaneously decelerate when we view her.

          1. Guppy

            It's funny that you mention that just as I get down to my high school (over) weight.

  39. prommie

    You know, her article is really on exactly the same level as the Breit-tards thing about Obama's SAT score. She takes a word or two out of context, then makes a wholely unwarranted sweeping and simplistic assumption about what Obama does or does not understand (Obama doesn't understand capitalism? Think about that statement, its fucking so vague as to be meaningless), then, having created this straw man, she goes on to slay it, slowly and boringly, ad nauseum. Plus, bomb Iran. Fuck this shit, man.

    1. Wile E. Quixote

      Carly Fiorina, who I love because as CEO of Hewlett Packard she transferred millions of dollars out of the pockets of HP shareholders and into the pockets of Amazon.com shareholders like me, wrote a similar column in CNBC the other day. I have to wonder if the wingers are co-ordinating this bullshit or if they're just coming up with it on their own.

  40. __kth__

    Rubin is deliberately misstating Obama's argument here. Despite being a post-colonial revolutionary Marxist, Obama isn't arguing that the presence of companies like Bain is bad for the economy. He's merely arguing that working for one is no special qualification for the Presidency, in either the senses of "job creation", stewardship of the economy, or in a general sense.

    There's an argument to be made that slash-and-burners like Bain are bad for the economy, but Obama isn't making that argument at all.

  41. charliearglist

    This was in the Washington Post and not the Washington Times? How did the Moonies let this one get away?

    1. finallyhappy

      The WaPo likes to pander to the right in hopes of boosting its dying circulation. They also just let 30+ people go. Maybe the Times and the Post will start sharing offices and reporters

  42. Tundra Grifter

    After Germany, the strongest economies in Europe appear to be Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Finland.

    Finland has one of the best health care systems – not sick care, as we sorta have here in the US of A, but genuine health care – in the world. The right wing nutz rant about Britian because they can aggregate horror stories from the English press. They never mention Finland's roaring success.

    All these nations are at least quasi-socialist.

    Just how can this be?

    1. Wile E. Quixote

      Yeah, Israel is pretty socialist too. Probably why Rubin doesn't exercise her right of return and instead chooses to live in the US of A.

      1. Tundra Grifter

        I recently learned there are "ultra-Orthodox" people living in Israel who don't have to serve in the army. Apparently they don't even work – they have unemployment insurance benefits for life.

        Meanwhile, I certainly believe in the Right of Return. That's one reason I like Nordstrom – they'll take anything back.

    2. Wile E. Quixote

      Oh, and Iceland, which told its bankers to go fuck themselves, is recovering faster from the 2008 debt crisis than Ireland, which bailed out its bankers is.

      1. Tundra Grifter

        Funny how that works, isn't it? Ya do the right thing and it just pays off for ya.

  43. Manhattan123

    Why does the little cartoon of her at her WashPost column make it look like shes in her 20s, maybe early 30s. Looking at that mug, she's got to be in her 50s easy. Either that or she is in her 20s and is just plain fugly.

        1. rickmaci

          Touche. She is 50 years old and looks like my 94 year old aunt. I guess that could be one reason for being a bitter, wretched, hag.

  44. rickmaci

    We can roll our eyes, wring our hands and blog all day about why these people say the toxic things they say, that all boil down to stigmatizing Barack Obama as an "other" and not a real American. In the end, there is one basic reality — they are all morally bankrupt bigots, less violent than Nazis and the KKK, but racists none the less.

  45. Callyson

    I’ll let them know that they’re poor because they have no skills or work ethnic

    Usually the wingnuts use the euphemism "work ethic," but this cuts to the chase of what they really mean to say…

    Also, don't tell me that we are compassionate because we have a social safety net and then turn around and try to destroy it, also, too…

  46. glamourdammerung

    This is the same scumbag that whined about imaginary OWS "antisemitism" in between advocating genocide as a final solution to the Palestinian question.

    capitalism is the greatest wealth-creator the world has ever known

    Is this including or excluding slavery?

  47. Wile E. Quixote

    Now that the Jews have a homeland can we ship all of the dumb, neoconservative Jews like Jenny Rubin and the Likudzi punks at the AEI over there so they can bitch about the Haredim and the Palestinians so we don't have to put up with their bullshit in America? Seriously, we need the neocons in America like we need the Sinaloa cartel and a bunch of Al Qaeda cells.

    1. finallyhappy

      No, because we have been shipped out of lots of places already. American Jews have as much right to be assholes as anyone else. I don't like her bullshit either but as a Jew- I find your remarks offensive- even if you are a Jew yourself.

  48. mavenmaven

    Someone needs to explain to these people what constitutional democracy means; what it isn't supposed to mean is that the rich and the majority rule.
    Aside from the fact that Israel is much more like Sweden in every "socialist" way (including generally free medical care for people from Gaza and the West Bank, and many who stream in from Jordan for care, as the medical establishment, fortunately, is much to the left).

  49. Wile E. Quixote

    Oh, in case you're wondering, from the picture posted on the artcile header, if Jennifer Rubin is bitter because she's a transsexual who has suffered grievously at the hands of an incompetent plastic surgeon here's another picture that will do absolutely nothing to dispel that belief.

  50. littlebigdaddy

    Gawd, her photo's way scarier than her byline drawing. She looks like Coulter's sephardic sister.

  51. Ducksworthy

    And also, why can't we have the kind of free health care and tight social safety net they have in socialist Israel? Oh right, the defense (of Israel) budget.

  52. joobajooba

    I lived in Sweden for three years. It was fucking awesome. Kinda of like America, but better bike lanes and public transport, dependable medical care, reasonable working hours, spectacular summer vacations, open sexual attitudes, safe cars. Oh, and without the poors.

  53. George Skullfry

    "Our economic opportunities are limited only by the impediments that government (taxes, stifling regulation, etc.) and individuals (lack of skills and work ethic) impose."

    Okay, for taxes, how about this: Reduce the maximum income tax rate to, say, 20%. In exchange, increase the inheritance tax rate to 100%.

    Because, according to Jennifer Rubin, our "economic opportunities" are apparently not influenced by our ancestors' economic success, at all.

  54. Me_K_Cong

    She doesn't even say what she means:

    "If Bain or the 1 percent are getting rich, as Obama would have us believe,"

    [If the rich are rich and Obama would have us believe it...]

    " then others are getting poorer or are being defrauded. "

  55. Hoisted_Peatard

    Jennifer Rubin is an idiot for SO many reasons (selective use of facts in the wrong context, presenting an alternate reality as reality itself) but one of her more hilarious columns was the one about Ryan and Widen. Okay, so obviously they blame Obama for partisan intransigence but then she comes out to praise a bipartisan approach that's essentially a carbon copy of the latest Republican candidate for Presnit's scheme, er plan to loot the social safety net. Huzzah, wha? You demented, prominent brow having imbecile…bipartisanship means GIVE and TAKE, it doesn't mean "sign off on a blanket Republican plan and call it bipartisan"…people like this irritate the shit out of me. Widen's useful idiocy just proved the old axiom: "Bipartisanship to a conservative is agreeing with all of their ideas while offering none of your own"…shut up, you ignorant she-bitch and take your ideologically infused pabulum about "undiluted" capitalism with you.

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