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Breaking! Obama Evolves Back To Gay Marriage Stance He Held In 1996

Congratulations, Gays! President Barack Obama has finally come out of the closet, REPORTEDLY, about his belief that gay people should have the same marriage rights as Kim Kardashian and that goofball, whatshisfuck. Of course, liberals have always believed that he always believed this, mostly because he said so, back in 1996, when he was not yet running for president. But then he did run for president, so he evolved. And now he evolved again, it looks like. (He has not been a Profile in Courage on this, we are saying.) But you know, it’s cool, bygones!

And now Martin Bashir is all over Your Wonkette’s teevee making blah-de-blah, so we have switched to our lover, Shep Smith, who is very happy that BO has joined him in the 21st Century, and WHY has Fox not fired him yet? It is all probably Joe Biden’s fault for letting the gaffe out of the bag, which led to Worst Press Secretary Ever, Jay Carney, getting reamed in the bottom for 45 minutes by liberal media who were all “So why’s the Preezy of the United Steezy LYING, CONSTANTLY, about this” (because everybody could tell he was sort of lying), and Carney was basically like, “That statement is no longer operative.” Sometimes you just gotta go with a classic.

Meanwhile, Mitt Romney has been evolving in the other direction, and has gone from being Governor Gay Marriage to now opposing even civil unions. Swell guy. [Mediaite]

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    1. Lionel[redacted]Esq

      I often wonder if him quitting smoking led to many of the disappointments in his administration. Can you imagine jonesing for a cig an having to put up with Republicans at the same time? We're lucky he hasn't gone postal on everyone.

        1. Lionel[redacted]Esq

          Wouldn't it be interesting if you mapped when he had cigs vs. when he has shown balls, and it turned out there was a direct correlation.

          I'm betting there is.

          1. tessiee

            "Wouldn't it be interesting if you mapped when he had cigs vs. when he has shown balls, and it turned out there was a direct correlation."

            Or an inverse correlation:
            "Let me be clear: All of you need to shut up! SHUT UP!! I HATE YOU ALL SO MUCH!!"

    2. Generation[redacted]

      I wish I could evolve back to my super sexy somewhat sexy not as bad as now 1990s self.

      1. SorosBot

        I wish I could evolve back to my young sexy late 90s self; definitely don't want to be fourteen again though.

  1. byepluto

    Speaking as resident of North Carolina, let me ask this to you, Mr President:


    1. Goonemeritus

      I think by not inserting himself into the issue he has allowed many States to make the progress they did over the last three years. I am thankful to the administration for the smart way they have handled this issue. And since your State already had a shit load of laws on the books that specially ban same sex marriage what is this good you speak of?

      1. byepluto

        The Amendment also fucks over unmarried victims of domestic violence just to name ONE fucked up thing that will result from it. Too little, too late.

        1. Goonemeritus

          I agree that is tragic but had Obama spent a month of Sundays in your State campaigning against this awful legislation he would only have succeeded in increasing the margin by which it passed.

          1. GOPCrusher

            Agreed. President Obama stating that he is in favor of same sex marriage only would have ensured the passage of the legislation by a wider margin.

          1. byepluto

            No, I can't. I can blame him for opposing it for years. Defending DOMA until his base made him stop, continuing to implement DADT after pledging to end it… ACTIONS, can I blame him for those?
            But words are nice, too.

          2. PlanetWingNut

            Hey Remember when a certain President was in favor of racial integration in North Carolina…did his desire for it make those states to do that magically made them compliant…yeah i don't remember that history on this earth either.

          3. JustPixelz

            One outcome of Democratic support for racial equality is the South's transformation into a solid block of red states.

          4. SorosBot

            That's the law, though; as President he has to enforce the law, whether he agrees with it or not. To just ignore legislation he doesn't like is a Bush-like violation of the law.

          5. Biel_ze_Bubba

            Umm … actually, unless some agency is charged with enforcement, the president gets wide discretion about what laws he wants to enforce.

          6. sullivanst

            Yes, Obama has for years opposed the stupid in your state. Yet, it remains.

            You're seriously deluded if you think the words of a blah President could've reversed the outcome of a measure that passed by 22 points.

          7. HistoriCat

            More to the point, Fox/Rush/whatever would have had screaming hissy fits – PRESIDENT ATTEMPTS TO INFLUENCE STATE ISSUE!!!!!

          8. sullivanst

            Yes, that too.

            Also, Obama's "evolution" was on the question of whether to use the word "marriage". He's always supported equality in the rights attendant to whatever-you-choose-to-call-the-marriage-like-thing, and always supported civil unions, so he's always opposed measures like Amendment One (which didn't affect the short-term status of same-sex marriage anyway, because that was already prohibited by statute and with the state leg. under goober control that wasn't going to change).

    2. Callyson

      As a resident of California who is impatiently waiting for the state to get rid of Prop H8–any chance of a court case in NC to get rid of your state's issue, the way we're trying to use the courts to get rid of our crap?

    3. Negropolis

      Jesus, himself, couldn't have changed that vote. Why do people think this had a shot in North Carolina, at all? You could have rounded up every lib-progressive in the state, and it still wouldn't have been enough. Let's quit the bullshit. This WAS NOT HIS FAULT, and that comes from a guy who has placed blame on him for a lot of things…but only when and where it was actually warranted.

      That this silly post got 70 up-fists is shameful.

      1. byepluto

        One does not pick their battles in questions of human rights, nor should they put up to popular vote, but that's a separate issue.

  2. Sassomatic

    Yikes. Santorum is going to be all over this one, and it couldn't have cum at a better time.

  3. Maman

    FOX can't get rid of Shep because then they would have no choice but admit that they are not a news channel.

    1. OneYieldRegular

      Great. Now I have to write a check for twice the amount I was planning to write.

    1. BigSkullF*ckingDog

      I'm just going to stand over here awkwardly and refuse to make eye contact.

    2. weejee

      But won't you and Jeff have to become latter-dazed saints first? Or has New Mexico passed general polygamy lawz on the QueTee?

    3. Geminisunmars

      One of my best friends and I have promised to get it on with each other once gay marriage was legal, because the only thing keeping us apart was the definition that only one man and one woman could marry. And we certainly wouldn't want to do anything illegal. So I'm afraid I'm already promised. I'm sure you are deeply disappointed. As will be my husband.

      1. Barb

        Thank you for your honesty. I am going to keep looking until I find the right gal.

      2. anniegetyerfun

        There are very few husbands that are disappointed by the news that their wife needs to sleep with a woman. So I hear, anyway. Mine shows very little interest in the ladies that I bring home.

    4. JustPixelz

      Can I have Jeff if you're through with him? I hear he's quite the catch. I'm not gay, but I guess that's the law now or something.

      1. biblioteq_tress

        You are a patriotic American foot soldier in the War On Christian(tm) Hetero Marriage. It is your duty to break up at least one straight marriage by being gay and whatnot. That's the law now. Rush told me, and he wouldn't lie.

        Next, we take down Christmas.

    5. Steverino247

      You can gay marry my wife. That way, half of you is mine. True, I'll get the half that eats (very old Dean Martin joke), but that's OK.

  4. DaRooster

    What? Rights? WTF?!? For non-straight people?
    That's crazy talk…

    About time.

    1. CommieLibunatic

      Nevermind that the Nazis included homosexuals in their Holocaust. But hey, never let details get in the way of Godwin's Rule.

  5. Goonemeritus

    It’s nice to see Muslim theology evolving on the important issues of the day.

    1. GOPCrusher

      Won't be long before Rmoney issues a statement claiming that he was for same sex marriage before Obama.

      1. sullivanst

        Obama wasn't just against it before Romney was against it; he was for-it-before-he-was-against-it before Romney was for-it-before-he-was-against it.

  6. EatsBabyDingos

    Good thing he didn't set the way back machine to evolve back into parachute pants.

  7. skoalrebel

    Why do these radical homos keep trying to ram their gay junk down my throat? [spit!] Me? I stand up firm and proud for the traditional American values: one man, one woman, two handguns, a jug of moonshine, a bag of pork rinds, two tins of dip, and a double wide trailer. [spit!]

    1. Barb

      You go against the grain of everything I believe in and everything I cherish. Chaw and all, you are one sexy thing.

    2. finallyhappy

      And as I read today- even when you divorce your wife in West Virginia- she is still your cousin- so family values!

      1. GOPCrusher

        And those handguns better be good old fashioned American made Colts. Not none of those faggy foreign Glocks or Berettas.

    1. lowaltflier

      Yeah, I feel your pain. I can't get the video to play. But if he supports gay marrige now. the Teatards will come out in November and vote against Obama. It's going to be a tough fight for sure.

      1. BornInATrailer

        Yeah, but Romneyboto will react predictably and swing farther to the right on this (no civil unions!).

        So, will Obama gain more votes from people who can't stomach voting for Romney with this litmus test (conservatives that know at least 1 gay person they don't hate)? Or will he lose more votes from "Blue Dog" dems and higher turnout from the Tealiban?

        I'd like to believe there was no political calculus involved in holding on to the obvious wedge issue until campaign time. Including the added benefit in that the longer you wait, the more the gradual shift in beliefs nation-wide tilts pro-marriage. But you can't wait too long and let the "flip flopper-y" nonsense that is to come be the loudest voice right before the polls.

        I'd like to believe there was no political calculus like that but thankfully I have a functioning brain.

          1. BornInATrailer

            Oh, I see.

            Hmm. I wonder if this will turn the spotlight onto what precise benefits are not appropriate when he says:

            "My view is the domestic partnership benefits, hospital visitation rights, and the like are appropriate but that the others are not."

        1. SorosBot

          Really, keeping up with his previous support for gay rights except marriage & separate-but-equal civil unions wasn't helping him with the homophobes, who never vote for him anyway; the biggest effect was probably creating a stark lack of enthusiasm among gay voters and gay rights supporters on the left.

          But as I said before, I had pessimistically assumed he would never have the courage to openly endorse same sex marriage before the election, (wrongly) believing it would hurt his electoral chances; glad I was wrong.

    2. nonbeliever7

      I fully believe Andrew Sullivan's "meep-meep" theory about Obama. Given that there are milliions of repubs/idiots around, Obama played this to his (and our) maximum advantage. it seemed pretty clear that Biden's Sunday "gaffe" was part of the plan.

      Who's that commenter that always says "well-played, martini?" Yes…I'll be having a well-chilled Hendricks tonight.

      1. widestanceromance

        Thank you for bringing the 'meep meep' thing up. I sometimes think Obama is too smart for we lefties, in our various frustrations, to fully comprehend.

        1. nonbeliever7

          It's more like he has the patience to let the morans slowly, but surely, self-destruct.

  8. Reginald_Perrin

    How long will it be before Romney claims Obama stole his position on same sex marriage?

    1. anniegetyerfun

      Heh. "Position."

      Of course, no matter WHAT Obama's stance (heh, also) on teh gayz, it will inevitably overlap with one of Romney's past stances on teh gayz.

      1. Lionel[redacted]Esq

        If the dog didn't know how to obey its master, it didn't deserve to get married.

  9. meatlofer

    My Dog and I have been married 15 glorious years……..What? NO! It's a female dog, you sick bastards!

  10. BigSkullF*ckingDog

    Oh no! Now Obama might not win West Virginia and Alabama!

    Just kidding. Suck on that loser bigots. This is genius as it will force the mormon into the bigots' arms.

  11. DrunkIrishman

    No, I'm not going to post the inevitable TOOK YOU LONG ENOUGH or WHERE WERE YOU LAST NIGHT screed – no, I won't do that because some things are above snark. This is one of those moments. A sitting president has just come out for gay marriage in an election year. Fuck the haters – whether they think it's too late or because they're anti-gay marriage.


  12. smitallica

    Yesterday, the bigoted fuckwads in North Carolina declared war. And Obama just dropped the big one.
    Fuck you, Christianists.

  13. widestanceromance

    As always, the downer: he still supports states rights to be evil. Nonetheless, this is still huge and bodes well to get support on the Democratic platform.

  14. doloras

    Shit. Way to hand the Republican base an excuse to hold their nose and vote for Mittens. :-(

    1. Wile E. Quixote

      You seem like a nice person but Jesus, your post is some seriously epic pearl clutching. Are you trying to parody David Brooks or Kathleen Parker? Did I miss something here because this comes off as some serious high Broderism.

      Fuck the Republican base, pop out their eyes, fuck their skulls and shoot a greasy load all over the inside of their largely empty craniums. I didn't caucus for President Obama in 2008 and vote for him because I thought he would be concerned about the hurt fee-fees of the racists, bigots, losers and scum that make up the Republican base. My unhappiness with President Obama over the last three years has not been because I feel that he's not solicitous enough of the fee-fees of the Republican base. Since the 20th of January, 2009 I've never once said "Damn, I really wish that President Obama would be more bi-partisan and spend more time reaching out to the lazy, ignorant, hate-filled morons who drove America into a ditch by electing George W. Bush in 2000 and 2008 and have been doing their level best to turn this country into a theocratic, third-world shithole."

      The authoritarian slaves who make up the Republican base are going to hold their noses and vote for Rmoney in 2012 just as they held their noses and voted for McCain in 2008. The reason they will do so is because they're stupid and easily manipulated by charlatans like Roger Ailes, Karl Rove and Frank Luntz, they follow orders unquestioningly and because at the end of the day the only ideology they have is hatred and fear and they can serve this ideology by voting for Rmoney.

  15. Lionel[redacted]Esq

    Hey, how 'bout instead of calling them Gheyz, we call them "Job Creators." Obama should just announce he is in favor of "Job Creators" getting married. Then the Republicans will be all over it.

    (This posting inspired by Frank Lutz)

    1. Geminisunmars

      "Job Creators" is already taken. How about "Stability Securers" or "Family Values Enhancers".

  16. rickmaci

    Right now the entire wingtard element of this country is experiencing a massive rockin' and rollin' Turd Nugget style release of frothy santorum from their collective righty-tighty asses.

    1. sharethegrief

      Speaking as a person whose bro-in-law (minister) decided my mom's funeral was his platform to speak about the sinfulness of gay people, I applaud you for your vision.

  17. CogitoErgoBibo

    Only evolving back to the 1990's? Big deal. The GOP has evolved back to a time before the wimmens had the vote and actual control over their own vajayjays. You really have to go back a good 50 or 60 years these days in order to truly impress.

    1. marinmaven

      It really depends on the issue. Some issues the GOP want it to be 1950s, but alot of times they really want to go back to 1875, no wait, 1400? Oh, sorry, that was 1400 BC.

  18. finallyhappy

    And remind me-because I am sure it will not show up anywhere else online- how this will harm my hetero marriage of 29 years?

    1. GOPCrusher

      I guess now the wingnuts will have to include Islam as a target of the Obama War On Religion.

  19. JerkCade

    So, I'm guessing Biden spilled the beans and they had to go live with this now instead of whatever exceedingly embarrassing-for-Romney time they had originally planned?

  20. Fare la Volpe

    Hot diggity damn! Alright, I was going to wait before I brought this up, but now's as good a time as any.

    All of you beloved Wonketteers are hereby invited to my gay wedding!! There'll be free food, a chocolate fountain, and a Flogging Molly cover band if my parents'll shell out the cash.

    Details coming soon. First I just gotta get me one of those "boyfriend" things and I'll be set! So excited!!

    1. FakaktaSouth

      Oh I want to do a liturgical reading, but without the liturgy. ALSO – this will be the PERFECT time for us to plan that trip to Pensacola!!!! Bachelor Party!!!! WOOOOO!!!!
      I'll wear a speedo too this time!!!

      1. Fare la Volpe

        Ooh ooh! Can you do a reading from Ezekiel 23:20?

        "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses."

        There's a couple of size queens in the bridal party whose faces I want to rub.

        1. FakaktaSouth

          First Pulp Fiction and now this – man, Ezekial truly is the most bad-ass-est of all the books, n'est-ce pas?

          I would be honored and promise, with the Lord's help I will deliver His word unto the people, so that everyone in the church? ballroom? beach? (so many wonderful decisions!) anyway, everybody's gonna wanna grab a huge dick and just hold on for dear life, and Jesus.

          1. Fare la Volpe

            everybody's gonna wanna grab a huge dick and just hold on for dear life, and Jesus

            Jesus loved big dick most of all – God only knows was hung on that cross.

    2. GOPCrusher

      I live in Iowa, the Gay Marriage Capital of the United States, and I've yet to be invited to one.
      Sounds like fun!

    3. HistoriCat

      Free food? I judge weddings on the quality of the food at the reception – can we assume that this will be either fabulous cuisine that we will reminisce over in later years or a good base for imbibing large quantities of alcohol and partying all night long?

    4. vodkamuppet

      Interesting, I have actual booking contacts with flogging Molly and could probably set that up for you. If not, would The Tossers do?

      1. Fare la Volpe

        Wait, for real? For real for real? If that is true then you are on the fast track to becoming our new bestest best friend ever! My best man and I are huge FM fans – Hell, I'm already planning to play "If I Ever Leave This World Alive" at my wedding and funeral.

        You work in the music industry? I'd heard lots of bands were settling in Detroit.

        1. vodkamuppet

          I used to do a lot of work in the music biz. I hate name dropping but I've booked Rancid, Dropkick, Flogging Molly, etc. I still have contacts though.

    5. redarmyzombie

      Congratulations Fare! Just ask your folks about that extra 20,000 stashed away, I'm sure they'll manage.

      Oh, will you also be having abortions at the reception, or will we have to provide those ourselves? Inquiring minds want to know!

  21. FakaktaSouth

    Cheers! I will celebrate my black President's support of basic civil rights as soon as my buzz kicks in and I can stop going around in circles about how bizarre what I just said was.

    Fuck it anyway – Hey gays, PresO says yes, you can! But probably don't. Much love!

    Also, am I seriously supposed to think that this will somehow influence a person who would consider Mitt anyway? I honestly to my soul believe it will come down to the straight up bigots versus the rest of us by the time Nov rolls around. And maybe we are half bigot as a poulation, but we'll definitely know for sure by then. This shit is gonna get so much worse – how do you get worse than "worst ever?" Just wait.

  22. poorgradstudent

    I don't know if Biden's "slip-up" or Amendment One or just the fact that it's an election year and you got a lot of pissed off people in your base prompted you to do this, but…it's okay, Obama. You can do this. Just relax, close your eyes, and pretend that we homos are Israel or Wall Street.

  23. OneYieldRegular

    What gall. Mitt Romney, I mean, whose forefathers "redefined" marriage as between one man and as many women as he could swat into his desert hut using the Book of Mormon.

    1. SorosBot

      Hey, the one man and many women rules where just a return to the traditional Biblical version of marriage!

  24. Come here a minute

    Obama probably thinks it's okay for a black man and white woman to procreate — tis an abomination!

  25. LettucePrey

    The Tea Party:
    "Dammit, Obama, now I gotta add ANOTHER mispelled slur to my placard?!?"

          1. Toomush_Infer

            So, except for #1, men are doing ok, no worries?… Well, screw it, let's parrrtty!!!!!…

  26. MissTaken

    The assnuts are already out on my Facebook about this:


    I'm actually surprised the ignorant bigot spelled sorry correctly, I think it's the first time.

    1. actor212

      I'm not. He's probably been forced to mutter it several times on his way out the trailer door before Uncle Joe gets home and finds Aunt Sally on her knees.

    2. finallyhappy

      I've seen "marriage is for procreation"(therefore, my childless hetero friends must divorce) and God made Adam and Eve"- the stupid – it is really burning!!!!

    3. SorosBot

      I'm feeling lucky about my facebook connections; the only angry messages I've seen are about the North Carolina bigotry passing yesterday.

      1. anniegetyerfun

        I went and did that awful thing that liberals do where I hid the feeds from hateful Facebook connections. I just had to. Couldn't take it. As such, I am awash in gayness, or at least support of gayness, every time I log into Facebook, and it is lovely.

        1. MissTaken

          I hid this bigot's updates back in 2010 when he kept saying that the Tea Party would impeach Obama for getting his dick sucked like Clinton did. Unfortunately that didn't hide his comment on my own status of "Yay Obama!".

          1. anniegetyerfun

            I've unfriended a few of them, too. I'm not terribly proud of it, but seriously, some of the racist fuckwads that I went to high school with? We don't NEED to be in touch.

          2. BigSkullF*ckingDog

            I had several "friends" from high school seek me out on Facebook only to unfriend me when they realized I'm one of "those" people. One bitch friended and defriended me twice. I guess she wanted to make sure I noticed her disapproval of me.

  27. Mittens Howell, III

    Mitt Romney doesn't support gay marriage, or even civil unions, but he does pander to secretly gay "Family Values" homophobes.

    So, he'll take a lot of credit for that fact.

    1. Mumbletypeg

      In keeping with our leaders' reversals of opinion and such, let's admit certain societal oppressors have it coming to them as we help our LGBT "Gay Away the Prey."

      1. Radiotherapy

        Talk about big gubmint, I'm sitting in a DMV cleaning my slate before Friday, and I'm chucking at your comment.

  28. Sassomatic

    Fox news headline: Obama denies sanctity of heterosexual marriage, endorses special rights for gays

      1. Fare la Volpe

        Why can't I stop reading the comments on that page? What the fuck is wrong with my brain that makes me subject myself to that level of frothing, bile-filled stupid?

        1. MissTaken

          babysetter Just now
          Is it true obozo and his chief of staff Emanuel are lifetime members of the same gay bath house in uptown Chicago? And was Donald young obozos boy friend? I mean he even acts QU E ER

          These people are performance artists, right?!

      2. BarackMyWorld

        Obama flip-flop: announces change in position.
        Romney flip-flop: tries to pretend that was his position is all along, leaves door open for changing it again tomorrow.

  29. Blueb4sunrise

    I find it disturbing that the pop-up ad on the video was for Asics athletic footware, and asked the the question:
    What happens when you combine a construction crane and a tennis player?

    1. CogitoErgoBibo

      An abomination! Gawd never meant for machines and tennis players to fornicate. You are obviously evil for even asking the question. Get thee to hell. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200; just leave the money there for the righteous job creators to pick up later.

    2. Wile E. Quixote

      You get a half-term governor of Alaska who can suck-start a snowmobile?

  30. CivicHoliday

    Ultimately, I think he finally accepted that this election will be based on culture wars. His record on the economy is actually quite clear, and there isn't much he can do to prove himself to those who refuse to acknowledge the facts. The people who REALLY want him gone are the ones who hate blahs/wimminz/gayz/poorz/illegals/educators and students and unions. So lets just be up front about that and have an election which serves as a referendum on national demographics. Even Megs McCain may eventually have to admit that "her" party may not actually represent anything she really believes in.

    1. MissTaken

      I think Megs (and Barbara Bush the Younger) will only remain with the GOP as long as their dads are alive. Once they are no longer they'll feel free to come to the light.

      1. SorosBot

        Like Ron Reagan Jr. before them; although he came to the light when his dad was technically still alive but brain dead. Like Julie Nixon and David Eisenhower, also too.

        1. Wile E. Quixote

          Yeah, but Reagan's adopted son Michael is still a twat, and Cheney's daughters will always be a couple of evil whores.

      2. Biff

        With all that sweet socialist healthcare we insist on lavishing upon them, they'll live forever!

  31. niblick77

    “Repugs always over compensate, so, expect to see a Gay VP pick out of Romney!”

    1. Wile E. Quixote

      Lindsey Graham will have you know that he's not gay. He's just a confirmed bachelor who likes mariposas, showtunes and wearing Capezios.

    2. SayItWithWookies

      He'll be allowed to be gay as long as he doesn't want any of those special rights like regular humans have.

  32. Billmatic

    Boy I'm so glad Obama came out to support something that I assumed he was in favor of when I voted for him in 2008.

  33. SayItWithWookies

    The America that I once knew is going to be destroyed forever. And not a moment too soon.

  34. littlebigdaddy

    Wow–between this and Rainbow Brite, it is turning out to be a FABULOUS day at the Wonkette!

  35. LettucePrey

    Shit, man, let's do this. There's still time to close Gitmo before dinner.

    1. SayItWithWookies

      Yeah, KSM's military tribunal is such a freakin' circus that it's clear they can't handle this type of proceeding. Can it and let the civilians have a swat at him.

  36. Lionel[redacted]Esq

    Obama comes out for teh Gheyz getting married, and next thing you know, Vidal Sassoon dies. How long until WND gets to the bottom of this?

  37. Mittens Howell, III

    Romney believes marriage is a sacred union between a robot and his woman person.

  38. Stubenville

    This is going to get even more interesting very quickly. Mittens has said he supports civil unions but not marriage, so how is he going to tap dance his way out of that one with the -American Taliban- religious right without either pissing them off or looking like a total bigot to everyone else?

    1. docterry6973

      The Mittster doesn't seem to worry much about anything he might have said at any past time. He has always been at war with East Asia.

    2. Dr. Nick Riviera

      He said he does not support civil unions if they have all the same rights as marriage with just a different name.

  39. James Michael Curley

    OT: But you really gotta like Alan Grayson; "Also under our Constitution, you will search in vain for any provision that authorizes a lengthy military occupation of a foreign country. In fact, the Constitution does not authorize a standing army, much less an army standing in Kabul. In the Bizarro world in which we live, we have 27 Attorneys General challenging the constitutionality of 35 million Americans getting health coverage, but no one challenges the constitutionality of an undeclared war (see Article I, Section 8 on that) that has now entered its second decade."

    1. UnholyMoses

      Yes, because those who hate teh ghey are those who were going to vote for Obama.

      Oh, wait. No, they're not.

      Listen, I keep reading this shit all over the place, but have yet to see anyone give me a good, logical reason why it guarantees Obama's doom.

      Supporting gay marriage and wanting to change the law to do so ain't the same thing, and Obama came out for the former without necessarily endorsing the latter. While I find that a tad chickenshit, it might be the difference that makes a … well, difference.

      Of course, all of this is moot if what you meant by "brings back memories of Feb 2004" is "the GOP will ensure voting machines record Democratic votes as Republican ones throughout Ohio."

      1. Biff

        Agreed. WTF, even the Dark Lord Cheney is for it, and if he was running against mittens for their party's nomination, it would be a landslide.

  40. Mumbly_Joe

    I think Governor Gay Marriage might be a bit strong for Romney's previous position; at least nowadays, he's inordinately proud of using an obscure 90-year-old anti-miscegenation law and preventing a major tourism windfall for the MA state economy, to keep out-of-state couples from getting married in his state.

  41. ChernobylSoup

    FWIW: Obama's InTrade share got a nice little boost after the announcement. Mitt stayed relatively flat.

  42. CommieLibunatic

    Right-wing scareplane, you are clear for takeoff. This flight is gonna SUCK.

  43. CommieLibunatic

    I'd say this should invalidate any claim that he's a Muslim, but logic has never been the Birthers' strong spot and probably won't start being otherwise any time soon.

  44. SorosBot

    Damn, I'm briefly offline and busy while Verizon was (hopefully) fixing my phone and internet, and it's 144 comments already? There's no way to catch up here; you people talk too much!

    1. Biff

      Tell me about it! I'm in the middle of a demolition project here at the ranch, and there's no way to keep up with just ONE post, let alone the dozen or so a day now.

  45. widestanceromance

    I am reminded of something I said about Obama in 2007, which is that he is an extraordinary man, who I would want as president, even if he has to become a politician to get–and stay–there.

    Politics is as filthy a profession as one can have outside the church, my friends.

  46. imissopus

    Good for him. I had something longer typed out but fuck it, no more needs to be said.

    Well okay, one thing: it would not have reversed the vote in NC and would have only given the Amendment One supporters more ammo. Some of them are probably dancing around now claiming the Pres has given them ammo to use against him and deliver the state to Romney in November.

    So again, good for him.

  47. elburritodeluxe

    While I am not gay I applaud this because when gay marriage laws are finally enacted, I can finally marry my pet goat. Or at least that's what Republicans are saying… Tell me I can marry this fucking goat soon!

    1. UnholyMoses

      Tell me I can fuck this goat Mary soon!

      Fixed to better reflect the states in which gay marriage is illegal.

      And, yes, that includes California because while, yes, y'all got San Fran, LA, and several other progressivish areas, the inland part of that state is chock full of so many stoopit wingnuts even the folks in Kansas have to say, "Damn, those are some crazy motherfarkers!"

      1. Biff

        I'm still trying to move back there, though. You can't talk me out of it that easily!

      2. Fukui-sanYesRadio

        Yeah, no fucking shit. The flat bit in the middle is scary. I made the mistake of stopping in Oakdale once. Never again.

  48. docterry6973

    My 39-tear marriage is melting, MELTING!! Ooooh, what a world, what a world.

      1. finallyhappy

        I usually say haters gotta hate- because your statement would mean nothing on Yahoo or Facebook or the Wapo comments but perhaps if I post at the Atlantic or The Economist.

  49. anniegetyerfun

    "Log Cabin Republicans appreciate that President Obama has finally come in line with leaders like Vice President Dick Cheney on this issue, but LGBT Americans are right to be angry that this calculated announcement comes too late to be of any use to the people of North Carolina, or any of the other states that have addressed this issue on his watch."

    Mind blown.

    1. GOPCrusher

      Dick Cheney went so far as to state that he wasn't going to comment on his stance for gay rights during the VP debate during the 2004 election.
      Real mavericky there, Dick.

  50. glamourdammerung

    It is a damned shame that suggesting folks should have the same civil rights is newsworthy.

    And even more of a shame that he will lose votes over this.

  51. thefrontpage

    Here are just some of the people who issued national statements today supporting President Obama's support of gay marriage, gay issues, gay rights and wild, crazy gay sex: Larry Craig, Mark Foley, Don Sherwood, Anthony Wiener, Elliott Spitzer, Richard Gere, John Travolta, Liberace, Eddie Murphy, Ryan Seacrest, Anderson Cooper, Elton John, Anne Heche, and Ted Nugent.

  52. Nopantsmcgee

    This just in:

    Nation's most powerful politician uses politics.

    Results in November.

  53. LetUsBray

    This is great news. As Winston Churchill once said, "Americans will always do the right thing, once they've exhausted all alternatives." Today we are reminded that we truly have a quintessentially American president.

    I'd about bet money Churchill wasn't referring to this specific topic, however.

  54. Negropolis

    Honestly, I'm glad this came out the day after North Carolina, because what should have been a victory for them, media-wise, was sidelined with this news. It was kind of a symbolic voiding of that vote to have this preview released when it was. Kind of like "you think you won the war, but you only won a battle, you fuckers."

  55. pinkocommi

    I like to think that all those people who oppose gay marriage really mean to say is that they want all the non-married gay people to keep having lots of hot out-of-wedlock sex. Because this explanation makes a lot more sense than any other rationale they come up with.

    Also, they are bigots.

  56. Tommy1733

    Naturally I applaud his historic announcement. My understanding of Obama tells me it is a timed political gamble; I'm somewhat sure he is fine with same-sex marriage, but he is also pretty conservative. I believe that he had Biden test the waters to see if such a position would help boost his campaign. I think it will because we had the excitement of electing a Black president in 2008, and now again we get to vote for him as a daring visionary. So in summary this was I believe an astute political move – he calculates it will offer some improvement in his popularity among his base, and is likely to do no harm, because the same people who virulently and stupidly oppose same-sex marriage are already going to vote for the other guy anyway – no loss, and some gain. Don't get me wrong – this is a great step forward for those of us who care about freedom and real American values. Let's all make his gamble pay off help re-elect this dude or else the stupid organized republicans and their money could sweep him out and then where would we be?

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