Look at this fucking homoTotal gay Dan Savage is not just a spreader of viral ideas (“memes”) and actual viruses, he is also a bully because he made Christian teens feel bad by calling the Bible bullshit just because it was constantly saying how we should slave people and stuff. Then he called them “pansy-ass” for walking out of his speech, and then he apologized for calling them pansy-ass, but since there is nothing else at all on the Internet today, the right wing is going to go with that. What other holocausts did Savage subject a bunch of high school students to? He told them they better be using birth control and said his husband looked good in a Speedo! WILL NO ONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?

Here is a fun explainer from Fox:

Savage was supposed to be delivering a speech about anti-bullying at the National High School Journalism Conference sponsored by the Journalism Education Association and the National Scholastic Press Association. But it turned into an episode of Christian-bashing.

Rick Tuttle, the journalism advisor for Sutter Union High School in California, was among several thousand people in the audience. He said they thought the speech was one thing – but it turned into something else.

“I thought this would be about anti-bullying,” Tuttle told Fox news. “It turned into a pointed attack on Christian beliefs.”

Tuttle said a number of his students were offended by Savage’s remarks – and some decided to leave the auditorium.

“It became hostile,” he said. “It felt hostile as we were sitting in the audience – especially towards Christians who espouse beliefs that he was literally taking on.”

Tuttle said the speech was laced with vulgarities and “sexual innuendo not appropriate for this age group.” At one point, he said Savage told the teenagers about how good his partner looked in a speedo.

The conservative website CitizenLink was the first to report about the controversy. They interviewed a 17-year-old girl who was one of students who walked out of the auditorium.

“The first thing he told the audience was, ‘I hope you’re all using birth control,’” she told CitizenLink. “he said there are people using the Bible as an excuse for gay bullying, because it says in Leviticus and Romans that being gay is wrong. Right after that, he said we can ignore all the (expletive deleted) in the Bible.”


I would like to apologize for describing that walk out as a pansy-assed move. I wasn’t calling the handful of students who left pansies (2800+ students, most of them Christian, stayed and listened), just the walk-out itself. But that’s a distinction without a difference—kinda like when religious conservatives tells their gay friends that they “love the sinner, hate the sin.” They’re often shocked when their gay friends get upset because, hey, they were making a distinction between the person (lovable!) and the person’s actions (not so much!). But gay people feel insulted by “love the sinner, hate the sin” because it is insulting. Likewise, my use of “pansy-assed” was insulting, it was name-calling, and it was wrong. And I apologize for saying it.

As for what I said about the Bible…

A smart Christian friend involved politics writes: “In America today you just can’t refer, even tangentially, to someone’s religion as ‘bullshit.’ You should apologize for using that word.”

I didn’t call anyone’s religion bullshit. I did say that there is bullshit—”untrue words or ideas”—in the Bible. That is being spun as an attack on Christianity. Which is bullshhh… which is untrue. I was not attacking the faith in which I was raised. I was attacking the argument that gay people must be discriminated against—and anti-bullying programs that address anti-gay bullying should be blocked (or exceptions should be made for bullying “motivated by faith”)—because it says right there in the Bible that being gay is wrong. Yet the same people who make that claim choose to ignore what the Bible has to say about a great deal else. I did not attack Christianity. I attacked hypocrisy. My remarks can only be read as an attack on all Christians if you believe that all Christians are hypocrites. Which I don’t believe.

No? Okay, then. Carry on.


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  • Schmannnity

    When will Obama apologize for these outrageous remarks?

    • tcaalaw

      As we learned in 2008, an apology is insufficient! Obama must reject and denounce Savage's remarks. Anything less clearly shows that he agrees 100% with the statement and is probably secretly dating Savage too!

  • Steverino247

    Well, except that the bullshit in the bible is why there are bullies.

    • How dare anyone make fun of Leviticus! *Sob* LEAVE LEVITICUS ALONE!!1!!

  • Giveusabob

    Indeed, telling off those tightwad, holy rollers like that is an outrage to pansy-asses everywhere.

  • BigSkullF*ckingDog

    IT GETS BETTER!!! But not for you, you stupid ignorant assholes.

  • bumfug

    "Oh, and I suppose talking snakes and pillars of salt are bullshit too – right, Mr. Sucky McDickerson?"

    • Wile E. Quixote


      We would like Wonketeers to cease and desist with the use of the phrase "Sucky McDickerson". Sucky McDickerson's™ is a trademark registered to Senator Lindsey Graham for a new business venture; a chain of bars where men can be men without having a bunch of women around being all slutty and stuff and where men can also bring their guns when they want to have a drink and where the bathroom stalls are wide enough for even the manliest of men to stand his ground with the widest of stances.

      Hugh G. Rection
      Chief Counsel and Cabana Boy
      Sucky McDickerson's LLC.

  • TeaNuts

    I'm thinking Rmoney/Savage, just to balance the ticket.

  • Major Thom

    After listening to Dan, the right has reached around the wrong conclusion again.

  • It was a stupid thing to do Dan Savage, but if you are secure in your faith then the words of a sex advice columnist isn't going to threaten your views on faith. Most fundies I've met are smug, but not secure.

    • Terry

      Yeah, he didn't do himself any favors. I wish he'd written a more succinct apology and showed the fundies what an apology should be.

    • CommieLibunatic

      Just as atheism has not made me smart, Christianity won't make you holy.

    • I thought that was the point behind why Savagebehaved the way he did, was to show the shaky tenets of a large swath of his audience.

      I'm a Christian and I have a lot of atheist and agnostic friends. Most of the time, we keep things on the QT about God and faith and all that, but every once in a while someone gets obstreperous about things. We let it roll off.

    • Tommy1733

      The only thing I can possibly find objectionable is his vulgar language. I think his content was exactly correct, and so the responsibility of creating offendedness belongs to the members of the audience. I think it shows his character that he wrote an apology – he is really reaching out and trying to be nice here. Kudos to Dan Savage.

      • I don't know. As somebody who's concerned about religious influences in public education, I have to condemn Savage's little diatribe. You can't tell Christians that they can't use the public school system to promote their religious beliefs and then invite a guy to make a speech telling students that Christian beliefs are bullshit.

        I know it wasn't a high school, but a conference, but it sounds like an activity closely associated with public education.

        I don't disagree with anything he was saying, but I don't think he should have been saying it in this forum.

        He could have at least tried to make the same point in a less confrontational manner, by asking them to think about the choices Christians make when they justify certain actions by selective reference to the Old Testament, but once you say the Bible is bullshit you've lost the audience you're supposed to be trying to reach.

        • ChapterUndVerse

          True that. Also, for the record, being a Christian is not a license to be an asshat, and many of us aren't.

    • Nesnora

      They're not secure because it takes a whole lotta internalized bullshit to convince yourself, and also explain this process to others.

      Also they're the ones trying to push their religious doctrine on an entire country as a model for governing everyone, fuck all the beliefs of anyone else.

      Fuck 'em. I say have the courage of your convictions, fuckers.

  • littlebigdaddy

    This is good news for Rick Santorum.

  • Lionel[redacted]Esq

    Just another sign of creeping Sharia law.

  • mormos

    sucks when people make unprovoked attacks and insults against you doesn't it?

  • EatsBabyDingos

    All Christians are hypocrites, and believe that God wants the Redskins to win, even though He has smited them with suckiness.

    • I thought that was Dan Snyder.

      • Terry

        Dan Snyder has a big birthmark that spells out 6-6-6 across his corpulent white belly.

        • V572 Is this him?

          Anyone who hires Ultimate Leader Mike Shanahan deserves whatever he gets. And fans of the Chesapeake Bay Region Indigenous Persons who think the fortunes of their "football" team are a matter of national importance deserve the same.

    • CommieLibunatic

      How did the song about Satan go? "I'm in ever Zeppelin album. I'm in all Rush Limbaugh's rants. I'm the reason that the Boston Red Sox even had a chance."

  • ChernobylSoup

    Sexual innuendo not appropriate for teenagers? You're being a teenager wrong.

    • mavenmaven

      He didn't make any fart jokes, though…

    • CommieLibunatic

      I'd like to remind the American People™ that something like 85% of teens who take a Purity Pledge break their promise. Not that I can blame them, what with every chromosome commanding them to reproduce.

  • EtchySketchy

    That roar you hear is the sound of the Fox News Room's collective orgasm. Otherwise known as the 'Coming' Apocalypse.

    • There you did, see did I.

      • Stevola

        Are you the actor who played Yoda?

    • CommieLibunatic

      Not sure if want.

  • V572 Is this him?

    Savage doesn't believe all Christians are hypocrites? What a hypocrite he is to say that! It's such a violation of the First Amendment to tell Christians their holy book contains bullshit. They DO NOT WANT their heads emptied of the bullshit they insulate them with.

    There's some gay black dude from Kabletown on MSNBC from time to time who used to work for Santorum, and this guy (Robert Traynham, characterized as Kabletown's DC "bureau chief") actually says he knows Santorum doesn't hate gays because Ricky was nice to him. That proves it, right?

    • 1stNewtontheMoon

      And Rick constantly refers to him when he says "some of my best friends are blah."

  • chascates

    Life was so much easier back when gayz were closeted and blacks stayed on their side of town.

    • rickmaci

      And Messcuns stayed in TiaJuana and didn't come here to steal all the gardener jobs from our Jap friends. Those were the good old days.

  • larryfinexx

    Dan threw a hissy fit.

  • I don't want to hear any bullshit from the fundies until they swear off mixed fabrics.

    "Neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woolen come upon thee."

    — Leviticus 19:19.

    • Terry

      How many fundies do you think actually wear linen. WalMart doesn't sell much of of it at all

    • So I shouldn't have sex with my summer weight suits? Or at least, no bukkake?

    • finallyhappy

      I use the shellfish and cheeseburger thing, Then you get the holy ones telling you- oh, we don't have to listen to the OT anymore- Jesus said so. Really, so you can murder and steal now?? So lucky, you Christians don't have the big 10 anymore 'cause I still can't commit adultery or worship idols

    • walterhwhite

      And woe unto him who sporteth polyester!

    • swordfis

      That's a load a' shatness

  • PeaceWithHonor

    Watch how a seething, vengeful majority casts itself as the victim.

    • CommieLibunatic

      Word. I like how a flock of over a billion souls still maintains a goddamned siege mentality. Harumph.

  • EtchySketchy

    I can't believe I just read a story mentioning religious hypocricy, men in speedos, and the term "Pansy-ass"–but no Marcus Bachmann.

  • metamarcisf

    When will Obama apologize for falling gas prices?

    • lulzmonger


  • proudgrampa

    Will someone please rapture these Christian assholes so we can live in peace?

  • el_donaldo

    Pansy-asses overreaction is pansy-assed.

  • elviouslyqueer

    Dan Savage being mean toward cry-baby Christians? Gee, I wonder why.

  • Fox n Fiends

    Jesus was pansy-assed.

    • bagofmice

      You would think that a fisher of men would be better at cussing.

  • Blueb4sunrise

    How many fat kids in the audience?

    • Probly just the straight ones.

    • thedeathofirony

      All of them, Katie

  • elviouslyqueer

    Tuttle said the speech was laced with vulgarities and “sexual innuendo not appropriate for this age group.” At one point, he said Savage told the teenagers about how good his partner looked in a speedo.

    Well, I've met Dan Savage, up close and personal. And yes, by Dog, I have no doubt he would look fucking PHENOMENAL in a Speedo.

    • mavenmaven

      So have I, but he was in drag, back at the Lemon Tree (I think that's what it was called, a great but short lived club) in Seattle a long long time ago, so it would be hard to say.

  • Goonemeritus

    “love the sinner, hate the sin”

    I don’t always love the sinner but I do love most sins.

    • Nostrildamus

      Tomorrow's assignment: List the 7 deadly sins and write a short essay on your personal favorite.

  • I want to dispel the rumour that I was married to Savage. However, I do look hot in a Speedo

    • Wear it to the doctor's office.

      • Well, I would, but I don't want to give her a heart attack.

    • Fare la Volpe

      You're under arrest!

      For banana smuggling!

      • Will this involve a…strip search?

        Hey! Who invited the cute pizza delivery guy????

      • bagofmice

        Ah, the ol' banana hammock saved my ass out at burning man once. Not from the gays of course, but from the pants cannon. What is a pants cannon you ask? It is a weapon deployed against shirtcockers, those people who don't wear pants, but wear a shirt. In order to remedy this problem, a group affixed a tshirt cannon in the back of a pickup truck, guerrilla style, loaded it with pants, and went a huntin for shirtcockers. I was about to take some fire before I turned around and revealed the banana hammock.

        Warning, the end is rear.

    • elviouslyqueer

      Pics or GTFO.

      • bagofmice

        Check upthread.

  • Typical. The head ghey thug doing a bully beatdown on Jeebus' perfect lambs. Then after that Dan likely slathered them in santorum.

    • Tommy1733

      Sounds like you don't really get the situation of either side very well.

    • I'm sure they all had screaming orgasms at the thought. Biggest fucking screaming queens in the GALAXY!!

  • “It became hostile,” he said. “It felt hostile as we were sitting in the audience – especially towards Christians who espouse beliefs that he was literally taking on.”

    So like how in class, Biblethumpers poke fun at teh gheys, I think?

    • sullivanst

      They can dish it out, but the First Amendment clearly states that on no account must they ever be made to take it.

    • These pathetic little shits have NO IDEA what hostile feels like. They need to show up at one of our AIDS marches or Pride fests and start spouting their shit to those of us who have had friends/family beat down by their thugs. They'll be begging for Danny's Savagery in three minutes flat.

    • bagofmice

      It's almost like he was bullying them.

  • KennyFuckingPowers

    The word of the Readers Digest is more liberating than the Bible.

    • Major Thom

      The word of Zap Comix is more liberating than the bible.

      • Fare la Volpe

        You should read Bazooka Joe's letter to the Ephesians.

    • And much more up to date!

      • littlebigdaddy

        I am Joe's liver!

  • CapnFatback

    By walking out, these budding journalists:

    1) Became the story
    2) Brazenly chose to ignore a view distinct from their own

    I'd say that they're all ready for their internships at Fox News.

    • SkinnyNerd

      It goes on the resume:

      Walked out of Dan Savage speech. Do not like to listen to conflicting views. Do not care to listen where someone is going with their statements. Walking out. The adult and professional thing to do. Can I have a jobz reporting? LOL.

    • I suspect those "internships" include lots of ballgags, floggers, slings, hammocks, and rope-tying that would put a Japanese Madam to shame. Which is why they're so eager.

  • Hera Sent Me

    Savage was wrong. The solution to intolerance isn't more of it.

    • CapnFatback

      That's one of those sayings that looks better on a bumper sticker than in the context of a nuanced argument.

      I'd agree that Savage perhaps came on too strong for his audience; however, that's what you get when you ask Dan Savage to speak. However, I hope I never stop being intolerant to ideas that promote bigotry and hatred.

      • finallyhappy

        Ramen, bro!!! Intolerance of bigotry is not the same as real intolerance.

      • bagofmice

        Well, you have to admit that Savage is his middle last name.

    • sullivanst

      Did you actually listen to his remarks, or read the transcript?

      If you can't distinguish between pointing out glaring hypocrisy, and intolerance, you're not qualified to make pronouncements on intolerance.

  • Radiotherapy

    Way to stand your ground, Dan.

  • Fluffy_Kitties

    It's all very simple.

    Republicans are the grown-up bullies who harassed you in High School.

    Democrats are the school administrators who refused to discipline the bullies.

    Gays are the drama students who always got busted for smoking on school grounds.

    • Fare la Volpe

      And Darrel Issa was the delinquent who stole your car. World keeps on spinnin'.

    • 1stNewtontheMoon

      some of the republicans are dipshit bullies all grown up (e.g. former aggie yell leader Rick Perry). others are fat little hall monitors who got molested by their algebra teacher (Newt). others are fat, not-so-bright kids who got bullied and when they found themselves in a position to fuck over every regular schmoe from their hometown, they took full advantage (80% of g.o.p. congressmen). others still are the little social experiments who "chose" not to fuck and drink and are still jealous of all the kids who went to the cool parties.

  • BigSkullF*ckingDog

    Boy, I really hope none of them commit suicide.

    • Jus_Wonderin

      Because they should have been raised to have more self esteem??

    • Negropolis


      Really, this puts it all in context.

  • This is outrageous–teenagers would stop having sex if Dan Savage would stop talking about it.

  • SheriffRoscoe

    Oh Dan, Dan, Dan……please don't try to walk your comments back now. They were awesome. You think Christians will love you more if you apologize for calling bullshit on their crazy ass beliefs?

    • Fare la Volpe

      Dan's not apologizing to the saps he pissed off. He's apologizing to his publisher and advertisers.

      • SheriffRoscoe

        Point taken.

      • sullivanst

        He also didn't apologize for calling bullshit. He apologized for calling the walkout pansy-assed, and then reiterated how the Biblical excuse for gaybashing is bullshit.

  • mavenmaven

    I've been a long time fan of his, as a straight man, so I think its fair to acknowledge that sometimes a gig doesn't go well.

  • Mahousu

    He should have pulled out some aborted fetuses in a jar. Then it would have been all right, somehow.

  • Diabeetis

    Well, admittedly, I think Savage is full of crap, too, albeit for different reasons than the righties. The things he wrote about the support that Prop. 8 received from blacks were blatantly racist.

    • SheriffRoscoe

      Such as?

      • Diabeetis
        • BigSkullF*ckingDog

          What the Jezebel post left out of the original post …

          "Seventy percent of African American voters approved Prop 8, according to exit polls, compared to 53% of Latino voters, 49% of white voters, 49% of Asian voters."

          Facts are hard to dismiss, even If they sometimes make us uncomfortable.

          • SheriffRoscoe

            Well, there was also the issue of rights being denied to blacks at some time or other in our nation's history, and gays of all races were all WHAT THE FUCK is up with that.

    • finallyhappy

      Many of the black legislators in PG county voted against the same-sex marriage law that passed in Maryland. A fact doesn't make it racist.

  • Bonghits4Jesus

    Proselytizing is bullying. Proselytizing is essential to evangelical Christianity.

  • SorosBot

    Dan Savage is wrong here; Christianity is bullshit, all of it, just some of the bullshit is more just silly, like belief in virgin births or a dead guy coming back to life, and not dangerous like the justifications for homophobia and misogyny (and, back in the day, slavery).

    • redarmyzombie

      Also, just sayin': Ishtar's zombieism was way cooler than Jesus'.

    • Wile E. Quixote

      I'd have to disagree with you there. I think there are some very good moral lessons in the Bible, even for non-Christians. Consider this from the Gospel of Matthew:

      Take heed that ye do not your righteousness before men, to be seen of them: else ye have no reward with your Father who is in heaven.
      2 When therefore thou doest alms, sound not a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have received their reward.
      3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
      4 that thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father who seeth in secret shall recompense thee.
      5 And when ye pray, ye shall not be as the hypocrites: for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have received their reward.
      6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thine inner chamber, and having shut thy door, pray to thy Father who is in secret, and thy Father who seeth in secret shall recompense thee.
      7 And in praying use not vain repetitions, as the Gentiles do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
      8 Be not therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
      9 After this manner therefore pray ye. Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
      10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so on earth.
      11 Give us this day our daily bread.
      12 And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.
      13 And bring us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.
      14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
      15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
      16 Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may be seen of men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have received their reward.
      17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thy head, and wash thy face;
      18 that thou be not seen of men to fast, but of thy Father who is in secret: and thy Father, who seeth in secret, shall recompense thee.

      What Jesus is saying here is "Look, if you're going to do what's good and right you should do it because it's good and right, not because you're some kind of arrogant dick who's saying "Hey everyone! Look at me! Doing good things and praying to God." because then it's not about the deed and doing what's good and right, it's about you, and your'e a dick. Ignoring this admonition of Christ's is just one of the many reasons why everyone who went to Rick Perry's Big-Tent Evangelical Christapalooza last summer is going to burn in Hell for all eternity with Satan's cock in their ass.

    • Wile E. Quixote

      There's also this moral lesson, again from the Gospel of Matthew.

      24 "No man can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will hold to the one and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

      Which is another reason why Evangelicals are all going to burn in Hell, because Evangelical Christianity isn't about the Jesus. It's about the Mammon. Then there's this moral lesson.

      "Judge not, that ye be not judged.
      2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged; and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
      3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
      4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, `Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye,' and behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
      5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

      Which is basically saying "Don't be a judgmental dick unless you really, really, really have your shit together. And even if you do have your shit together don't bother being a judgmental dick because it's a dick move." a valuable moral lesson even for non-Christians and yet another reason why Evangelical Christians, who are all about pointing out the speck of sawdust in their brother's eye while ignoring the beam in their own, and by beam I mean "closets full of wetsuits, dildos and poppers" can look forward to eternal torment in Hell with Satan's cock in their ass.

    • Wile E. Quixote

      And one more moral lesson from the Bible, again from the Gospel of Matthew:

      12 Therefore, all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them; for this is the Law and the Prophets.

      that whole "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" thing. A valuable moral precept and a huge failing of Evangelical Christianity. Yes, there's a lot of good stuff in the Bible, and it's a real pity that Evangelical Christians don't pay any attention to it and instead focus on the Old Testament and the Book of Revelations, which of course means that they'll all end up burning in Hell for all eternity while being raped by all of Satan's demons.

      • bagofmice

        You have to give him some respect. Yo Dickens, "Call me Ishmael" was good, but starting off a book with the quasi-tautological phrase "In the beginning there was the word" has got to be one of the cheekiest opening lines of all time.

        • Stevola

          Like when Melville wrote, "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times"

  • Fare la Volpe

    My remarks can only be read as an attack on all Christians if you believe that all Christians are hypocrites.

    Meow. Bitch be throwin' shade.

  • proudgrampa

    Some of my best friends wear Speedos.

    • Tommy1733

      Some of my best friends are part owners of Speedo International Ltd.

  • ttommyunger

    So, you invite Dan Fucking Savage to speak and expect him to talk about the weather, fer Chrissakes? Dan didn't do his cause any favors( I also believe in his cause) but the morans who invited him are to blame for any blow-back. There is a time to speak bluntly and a time to hold your fire a little. Dan slept through that lesson. I guess I blame both equally. I mean, really, I don't want to hear about any man in a speedo.

    • SheriffRoscoe

      Welcome to my world, every year when the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition hits the stands.

      • redarmyzombie

        Oh, tell me about it…

    • hagajim

      Problem is – hold your fire and Dan Savage can't be in the same ballpark together, much less the same room.

    • sullivanst

      He was invited to talk about bullying, to aspiring journalists. Given what's been in the news recently about bullying, this is simply impossible to do without covering what the Christianist assholes are trying to do to anti-bullying efforts. Apparently, though, while saying that being gay is wrong is perfectly fine if you do it because you're a Christianist asshole, saying that bullying people who don't believe the same fairytales as you is wrong is not in the least bit fine.

      Savage is completely right. It's totally, utterly, undeniably bullshit. Hypocritical, bullying, pansy-ass bullshit.

      I'd also like to point out, when you look at the video, the first person caught on camera walking out did so before he even said the word "bullshit".

      Finally, as Towleroad points out, the conference was called Journalism on the Edge. Perhaps some edginess should have been anticipated?

      • ttommyunger

        I don't agree with any of your points, I just hate to see lovers of polarization have such an opportunity handed to them on a silver platter.

        • sullivanst

          If you don't allow yourself to say anything that lovers of polarization are going to freak out about, you're taking a vow of eternal silence. They will always find something to complain about, it's what they do.

          • ttommyunger

            I meant to say I don't DISagree. Sorry, senior moment.

        • sullivanst

          You know what, this is just making me really peevish.

          A bunch of cultists take concerted action to try to enshrine into law that they're allowed to ignore a lot of really important stuff in their own religion so they can focus on the couple of passing mentions that ghey is eebil and use those to bully kids on the basis of their sexual orientation, and saying this is bullshit is the outrage? Fuck that with a rusty chainsaw. If you can't take people calling your vicious hypocrisy out, don't be hypocritically vicious.

          • ttommyunger

            Sorry, I meant to type “DISAGREE”. SENIOR MOMENT.

          • sullivanst

            Well, that's different. Never mind.


          • ttommyunger

            So sorry to be so old and stupid. I didn't catch my error until I re-read my comment on your notification.

  • SkinnyNerd

    This was pure poetry.

    The Savage comments, not Fox's coverage.

  • Oblios_Cap

    Dan Savage is History's Worst Monster! Maybe even History's Worstest Monster Ever!

    • AlterNewt

      Strong words.

    • vtxmcrider

      Have you ever heard of Dick Cheney?

    • lulzmonger

      Jimmy Carter haz a sad.

  • FakaktaSouth

    As a person who has also pissed some people off by calling bullshit bullshit, I salute Dan Savage. I would however like to say I AM HORRIFIED at the perpetuation of the Speedo lifestyle. That is an UNACCEPTIBLE choice for ANY man and there might have to be a Constitutional amendment if they insist on keeping that up.

    • Chichikovovich

      Yeah!!! Move to Brazil, ya perverts!

    • Fare la Volpe

      No offense, Fakakta, but the men who are walking around in speedos are probably not wearing them to catch your eye, if youcatchmydrift.

      • FakaktaSouth

        I TOTALLY dig that – however, since I'm not really allowed to touch any randos on the beach anyway, AND the ones with the best bods are usually the ones who don't wanna do my kind, I'm still saying no. I figure this is about as much my business as every other thing everybody tries to boss gay people around for, so ya know…I may as well give it a shot. And, mostly, I'm an equal opportunity letch, I don't really care what the intentions of the subjects of my letchery are…

  • DaRooster

    ”untrue words or ideas”—in the Bible.


  • MozakiBlocks

    I'll make it real simple for these folks. Stop with the bullshit and people will stop calling it bullshit.

  • niblick77

    What? The Christians did not like getting bullied? Good example Mr. Savage. Good example.

  • Savage, a practicing homosexual, is said to have leveled a lot of gay animosity at the youth who believe in Jesus Christ

    Allen Iverson says "We're talking about practice man. (laughter from the media crowd) We're talking about practice. We're talking about practice. We're not talking about the game. We're talking about practice."

    Dan Savage doesn't need your damn practice, right wing jerk. He is a gay MVP.

    • finallyhappy

      A practicing homosexual? what the hell does that mean? I'm pretty sure Dan is past the practice stage

    • horsedreamer_1

      "But, approach me with faggot tendencies, you be laying where the maggots be".

  • gizdal

    so dan savages the christers! well, well, what else is new? but just remember this-
    jesus never read the bible!

    • finallyhappy

      Not according to t \his woman I worked with many years ago- dumb as dirt redneck. She nearly had a heart attack when I told her Jesus was Jewish and she started almost screaming- no he wasn't , he was Catholic. I started to laugh and then she got really angry.

    • Jus_Wonderin

      Yeah, we need one of those tags "I'm Jesus Christ and I approve of this message". Will we get it…fuck no.

  • b[redact]opple

    This is offensive to those of us who would look disgusting in a Speedo. Apart from that I don't see what everyone is all butthurt about.

  • anniegetyerfun

    Le sigh. What a cocksucker.

    • bagofmice

      You sound jealous.

  • dancesw_cougars

    If the news printed stories truthfully this would have been the headline on CNN:

    "Butt-hurt Christian students walk out after Dan Savage calls out Biblical hypocrisy."

  • Troglodeity

    I'm a Christian and, truth be told, we are kind of a pansy-assed religion. When we practice it right.

  • Doktor StrangeZoom

    Should we now assume that Tenessee will at least offer people the option of stoning non-virgin brides?

  • fuflans

    fuck yeah i'm bigoted against christians.

  • owhatever

    He was talking to the National High School Journalism Conference sponsored by the Journalism Education Association and the National Scholastic Press Association. These kids want to be serious "reporters," but do not want to listen to contrary opinions? Fox News in a nutshell. Screw the First Amendment, except when they need to hide behind it.

  • Antispandex

    "…and said his husband looked good in a Speedo! WILL NO ONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?"

    Dude, NO ONE looks good in a Speedo! OK, twenty something Water Polo players, and a few topless super models, but this is America, so most people? No.

  • Pat_Pending

    needz moar smiting.

  • Nesnora

    Isn't it about time we cut the fake puritanical outrage about innuendos and just admit what has been going on for thousands of years:

    The kids are fuckin'.

    It's the reason why Dan is candid, and anything less would just kick in the boredom which makes them go back to thinking about fuckin' during the assembly anyway.

  • DahBoner

    Thank goodness these young Christian kids stood up for Christian hypocrisy!

    For example, Jesus commanded not to pray in public, like those hypocrites who pray in public.


  • lochnessmonster

    He was just letting them know what it feels like to be bullied…a taste of their own medicine for hating' on the gays?

  • Funny that they had to make up a "controversy" rather than acknowledge that whining about how not being allowed to harm homosexuals is somehow "anti-Christian", which is far more of a negative statement about their faith than anything Savage could have said.

  • swordfis

    Pardon me for suggesting this, but is there a possibility that Dan Savage is something of an asshole? (not that I disagree with him.)

    • horsedreamer_1

      You are what you eat!

  • LadyWisdom

    Is this the first time Dan Savage has spoken to an audience of kids? If so, someone should have warned him about speaking truth to them. You can't tell kids the truth. Not allowed. That was his first mistake.

    Second, he was wrong to apologize if he called the bible bullshit. See above.

  • Negropolis

    Wait, what kind of sexual innuendo is not appropriate for a 17-year-old? Have they been around any 17-year-olds, lately? What the hell don't those little bastards know about unconventional sex?

  • lulzmonger

    Mistakes were made, pearls were clutched, a nonpology was issued.

    But more importantly … how does Sarah Palin feel about this?

  • SolitaireRose

    I think it was a great idea by the school to bring in a well known sex advice columnist. I'm hoping their next speakers will be Ron Jeremy, Sasha Grey and Bristol Palin.

  • PrimusCapio

    Maybe I am not getting this right…I have never read anywhere in the Bible that gives a excuse for gaybashing…Why are people keep saything that?

  • thefrontpage

    "Dan Savage should be president of the United States–I love Dan Savage. He's a good-looking young man, too," Fox News Buffoon Ted Nugent said during an interview with Sausage! magazine, am American gay magazine. "In fact, I would marry Dan Savage, if I wasn't already married. I would have relations with him every day–he's that good-looking. Dan wrote several songs on my new album, you know."

  • Whollyholeyholy

    I mostly love him, but this *is* kinda using the bully pulpit.

  • doubletheennui

    “I thought this would be about anti-bullying,” Tuttle told Fox news. “It turned into a pointed attack on Christian beliefs.”

    …haven't these people ever googled "santorum???"

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