SPREAD THE LOVE  1:20 pm April 30, 2012

Dan Savage Is A Bad, Bad Man

by Rebecca Schoenkopf

Look at this fucking homoTotal gay Dan Savage is not just a spreader of viral ideas (“memes”) and actual viruses, he is also a bully because he made Christian teens feel bad by calling the Bible bullshit just because it was constantly saying how we should slave people and stuff. Then he called them “pansy-ass” for walking out of his speech, and then he apologized for calling them pansy-ass, but since there is nothing else at all on the Internet today, the right wing is going to go with that. What other holocausts did Savage subject a bunch of high school students to? He told them they better be using birth control and said his husband looked good in a Speedo! WILL NO ONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?

Here is a fun explainer from Fox:

Savage was supposed to be delivering a speech about anti-bullying at the National High School Journalism Conference sponsored by the Journalism Education Association and the National Scholastic Press Association. But it turned into an episode of Christian-bashing.

Rick Tuttle, the journalism advisor for Sutter Union High School in California, was among several thousand people in the audience. He said they thought the speech was one thing – but it turned into something else.

“I thought this would be about anti-bullying,” Tuttle told Fox news. “It turned into a pointed attack on Christian beliefs.”

Tuttle said a number of his students were offended by Savage’s remarks – and some decided to leave the auditorium.

“It became hostile,” he said. “It felt hostile as we were sitting in the audience – especially towards Christians who espouse beliefs that he was literally taking on.”

Tuttle said the speech was laced with vulgarities and “sexual innuendo not appropriate for this age group.” At one point, he said Savage told the teenagers about how good his partner looked in a speedo.

The conservative website CitizenLink was the first to report about the controversy. They interviewed a 17-year-old girl who was one of students who walked out of the auditorium.

“The first thing he told the audience was, ‘I hope you’re all using birth control,’” she told CitizenLink. “he said there are people using the Bible as an excuse for gay bullying, because it says in Leviticus and Romans that being gay is wrong. Right after that, he said we can ignore all the (expletive deleted) in the Bible.”

DAN SAVAGE AT LONG LAST HAVE YOU LEFT NO SENSE OF DECENCY?

I would like to apologize for describing that walk out as a pansy-assed move. I wasn’t calling the handful of students who left pansies (2800+ students, most of them Christian, stayed and listened), just the walk-out itself. But that’s a distinction without a difference—kinda like when religious conservatives tells their gay friends that they “love the sinner, hate the sin.” They’re often shocked when their gay friends get upset because, hey, they were making a distinction between the person (lovable!) and the person’s actions (not so much!). But gay people feel insulted by “love the sinner, hate the sin” because it is insulting. Likewise, my use of “pansy-assed” was insulting, it was name-calling, and it was wrong. And I apologize for saying it.

As for what I said about the Bible…

A smart Christian friend involved politics writes: “In America today you just can’t refer, even tangentially, to someone’s religion as ‘bullshit.’ You should apologize for using that word.”

I didn’t call anyone’s religion bullshit. I did say that there is bullshit—”untrue words or ideas”—in the Bible. That is being spun as an attack on Christianity. Which is bullshhh… which is untrue. I was not attacking the faith in which I was raised. I was attacking the argument that gay people must be discriminated against—and anti-bullying programs that address anti-gay bullying should be blocked (or exceptions should be made for bullying “motivated by faith”)—because it says right there in the Bible that being gay is wrong. Yet the same people who make that claim choose to ignore what the Bible has to say about a great deal else. I did not attack Christianity. I attacked hypocrisy. My remarks can only be read as an attack on all Christians if you believe that all Christians are hypocrites. Which I don’t believe.

No? Okay, then. Carry on.

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Schmannnity April 30, 2012 at 1:25 pm

When will Obama apologize for these outrageous remarks?

tcaalaw April 30, 2012 at 5:20 pm

As we learned in 2008, an apology is insufficient! Obama must reject and denounce Savage's remarks. Anything less clearly shows that he agrees 100% with the statement and is probably secretly dating Savage too!

Steverino247 April 30, 2012 at 1:25 pm

Well, except that the bullshit in the bible is why there are bullies.

Infrogmation April 30, 2012 at 2:29 pm

How dare anyone make fun of Leviticus! *Sob* LEAVE LEVITICUS ALONE!!1!!

Giveusabob April 30, 2012 at 1:26 pm

Indeed, telling off those tightwad, holy rollers like that is an outrage to pansy-asses everywhere.

BigSkullF*ckingDog April 30, 2012 at 1:26 pm

IT GETS BETTER!!! But not for you, you stupid ignorant assholes.

bumfug April 30, 2012 at 1:26 pm

"Oh, and I suppose talking snakes and pillars of salt are bullshit too – right, Mr. Sucky McDickerson?"

Wile E. Quixote April 30, 2012 at 1:55 pm

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TeaNuts April 30, 2012 at 1:26 pm

I'm thinking Rmoney/Savage, just to balance the ticket.

Major Thom April 30, 2012 at 1:27 pm

After listening to Dan, the right has reached around the wrong conclusion again.

ManchuCandidate April 30, 2012 at 1:28 pm

It was a stupid thing to do Dan Savage, but if you are secure in your faith then the words of a sex advice columnist isn't going to threaten your views on faith. Most fundies I've met are smug, but not secure.

Terry April 30, 2012 at 1:39 pm

Yeah, he didn't do himself any favors. I wish he'd written a more succinct apology and showed the fundies what an apology should be.

CommieLibunatic April 30, 2012 at 1:55 pm

Just as atheism has not made me smart, Christianity won't make you holy.

actor212 April 30, 2012 at 2:11 pm

I thought that was the point behind why Savagebehaved the way he did, was to show the shaky tenets of a large swath of his audience.

I'm a Christian and I have a lot of atheist and agnostic friends. Most of the time, we keep things on the QT about God and faith and all that, but every once in a while someone gets obstreperous about things. We let it roll off.

Tommy1733 April 30, 2012 at 2:37 pm

The only thing I can possibly find objectionable is his vulgar language. I think his content was exactly correct, and so the responsibility of creating offendedness belongs to the members of the audience. I think it shows his character that he wrote an apology – he is really reaching out and trying to be nice here. Kudos to Dan Savage.

MaxUdargo April 30, 2012 at 6:02 pm

I don't know. As somebody who's concerned about religious influences in public education, I have to condemn Savage's little diatribe. You can't tell Christians that they can't use the public school system to promote their religious beliefs and then invite a guy to make a speech telling students that Christian beliefs are bullshit.

I know it wasn't a high school, but a conference, but it sounds like an activity closely associated with public education.

I don't disagree with anything he was saying, but I don't think he should have been saying it in this forum.

He could have at least tried to make the same point in a less confrontational manner, by asking them to think about the choices Christians make when they justify certain actions by selective reference to the Old Testament, but once you say the Bible is bullshit you've lost the audience you're supposed to be trying to reach.

ChapterUndVerse May 26, 2012 at 9:43 pm

True that. Also, for the record, being a Christian is not a license to be an asshat, and many of us aren't.

Nesnora April 30, 2012 at 4:46 pm

They're not secure because it takes a whole lotta internalized bullshit to convince yourself, and also explain this process to others.

Also they're the ones trying to push their religious doctrine on an entire country as a model for governing everyone, fuck all the beliefs of anyone else.

Fuck 'em. I say have the courage of your convictions, fuckers.

littlebigdaddy April 30, 2012 at 1:28 pm

This is good news for Rick Santorum.

Lionel[redacted]Esq April 30, 2012 at 1:28 pm

Just another sign of creeping Sharia law.

mormos April 30, 2012 at 1:28 pm

sucks when people make unprovoked attacks and insults against you doesn't it?

EatsBabyDingos April 30, 2012 at 1:29 pm

All Christians are hypocrites, and believe that God wants the Redskins to win, even though He has smited them with suckiness.

ManchuCandidate April 30, 2012 at 1:30 pm

I thought that was Dan Snyder.

Terry April 30, 2012 at 1:40 pm

Dan Snyder has a big birthmark that spells out 6-6-6 across his corpulent white belly.

V572 Is this him? April 30, 2012 at 2:29 pm

Anyone who hires Ultimate Leader Mike Shanahan deserves whatever he gets. And fans of the Chesapeake Bay Region Indigenous Persons who think the fortunes of their "football" team are a matter of national importance deserve the same.

CommieLibunatic April 30, 2012 at 1:56 pm

How did the song about Satan go? "I'm in ever Zeppelin album. I'm in all Rush Limbaugh's rants. I'm the reason that the Boston Red Sox even had a chance."

ChernobylSoup April 30, 2012 at 1:29 pm

Sexual innuendo not appropriate for teenagers? You're being a teenager wrong.

mavenmaven April 30, 2012 at 1:44 pm

He didn't make any fart jokes, though…

CommieLibunatic April 30, 2012 at 2:03 pm

I'd like to remind the American People™ that something like 85% of teens who take a Purity Pledge break their promise. Not that I can blame them, what with every chromosome commanding them to reproduce.

EtchySketchy April 30, 2012 at 1:30 pm

That roar you hear is the sound of the Fox News Room's collective orgasm. Otherwise known as the 'Coming' Apocalypse.

actor212 April 30, 2012 at 1:41 pm

There you did, see did I.

Stevola May 1, 2012 at 12:41 am

Are you the actor who played Yoda?

CommieLibunatic April 30, 2012 at 2:03 pm

Not sure if want.

V572 Is this him? April 30, 2012 at 1:30 pm

Savage doesn't believe all Christians are hypocrites? What a hypocrite he is to say that! It's such a violation of the First Amendment to tell Christians their holy book contains bullshit. They DO NOT WANT their heads emptied of the bullshit they insulate them with.

There's some gay black dude from Kabletown on MSNBC from time to time who used to work for Santorum, and this guy (Robert Traynham, characterized as Kabletown's DC "bureau chief") actually says he knows Santorum doesn't hate gays because Ricky was nice to him. That proves it, right?

1stNewtontheMoon April 30, 2012 at 2:01 pm

And Rick constantly refers to him when he says "some of my best friends are blah."

chascates April 30, 2012 at 1:30 pm

Life was so much easier back when gayz were closeted and blacks stayed on their side of town.

rickmaci May 1, 2012 at 12:41 am

And Messcuns stayed in TiaJuana and didn't come here to steal all the gardener jobs from our Jap friends. Those were the good old days.

larryfinexx April 30, 2012 at 1:30 pm

Dan threw a hissy fit.

ifthethunderdontgetya April 30, 2012 at 1:31 pm

I don't want to hear any bullshit from the fundies until they swear off mixed fabrics.

"Neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woolen come upon thee."

– Leviticus 19:19.
~

Terry April 30, 2012 at 1:41 pm

How many fundies do you think actually wear linen. WalMart doesn't sell much of of it at all

ifthethunderdontgetya April 30, 2012 at 1:52 pm

50-50 cotton-poly is an Abomination, says I.
~

actor212 April 30, 2012 at 1:58 pm

LEISURE SUIT LARRY LIBEL!

actor212 April 30, 2012 at 1:42 pm

So I shouldn't have sex with my summer weight suits? Or at least, no bukkake?

finallyhappy April 30, 2012 at 2:17 pm

I use the shellfish and cheeseburger thing, Then you get the holy ones telling you- oh, we don't have to listen to the OT anymore- Jesus said so. Really, so you can murder and steal now?? So lucky, you Christians don't have the big 10 anymore 'cause I still can't commit adultery or worship idols

walterhwhite April 30, 2012 at 2:33 pm

And woe unto him who sporteth polyester!

swordfis April 30, 2012 at 5:40 pm

That's a load a' shatness

PeaceWithHonor April 30, 2012 at 1:32 pm

Watch how a seething, vengeful majority casts itself as the victim.

CommieLibunatic April 30, 2012 at 2:07 pm

Word. I like how a flock of over a billion souls still maintains a goddamned siege mentality. Harumph.

EtchySketchy April 30, 2012 at 1:32 pm

I can't believe I just read a story mentioning religious hypocricy, men in speedos, and the term "Pansy-ass"–but no Marcus Bachmann.

metamarcisf April 30, 2012 at 1:33 pm

When will Obama apologize for falling gas prices?

lulzmonger May 1, 2012 at 6:35 am

OPEC LIBEL!

proudgrampa April 30, 2012 at 1:33 pm

Will someone please rapture these Christian assholes so we can live in peace?

el_donaldo April 30, 2012 at 1:34 pm

Pansy-asses overreaction is pansy-assed.

elviouslyqueer April 30, 2012 at 1:34 pm

Dan Savage being mean toward cry-baby Christians? Gee, I wonder why.

Fox n Fiends April 30, 2012 at 1:34 pm

Jesus was pansy-assed.

bagofmice April 30, 2012 at 3:18 pm

You would think that a fisher of men would be better at cussing.

Blueb4sunrise April 30, 2012 at 1:36 pm

How many fat kids in the audience?

weejee April 30, 2012 at 1:40 pm

Probly just the straight ones.

thedeathofirony April 30, 2012 at 3:04 pm

All of them, Katie

elviouslyqueer April 30, 2012 at 1:37 pm

Tuttle said the speech was laced with vulgarities and “sexual innuendo not appropriate for this age group.” At one point, he said Savage told the teenagers about how good his partner looked in a speedo.

Well, I've met Dan Savage, up close and personal. And yes, by Dog, I have no doubt he would look fucking PHENOMENAL in a Speedo.

mavenmaven April 30, 2012 at 1:46 pm

So have I, but he was in drag, back at the Lemon Tree (I think that's what it was called, a great but short lived club) in Seattle a long long time ago, so it would be hard to say.

Goonemeritus April 30, 2012 at 1:38 pm

“love the sinner, hate the sin”

I don’t always love the sinner but I do love most sins.

Nostrildamus April 30, 2012 at 5:37 pm

Tomorrow's assignment: List the 7 deadly sins and write a short essay on your personal favorite.

actor212 April 30, 2012 at 1:39 pm

I want to dispel the rumour that I was married to Savage. However, I do look hot in a Speedo

Chet Kincaid April 30, 2012 at 1:48 pm

Wear it to the doctor's office.

actor212 April 30, 2012 at 1:49 pm

Well, I would, but I don't want to give her a heart attack.

Fare la Volpe April 30, 2012 at 2:09 pm

You're under arrest!

For banana smuggling!

actor212 April 30, 2012 at 2:12 pm

Will this involve a…strip search?

Hey! Who invited the cute pizza delivery guy????

bagofmice April 30, 2012 at 3:30 pm

Ah, the ol' banana hammock saved my ass out at burning man once. Not from the gays of course, but from the pants cannon. What is a pants cannon you ask? It is a weapon deployed against shirtcockers, those people who don't wear pants, but wear a shirt. In order to remedy this problem, a group affixed a tshirt cannon in the back of a pickup truck, guerrilla style, loaded it with pants, and went a huntin for shirtcockers. I was about to take some fire before I turned around and revealed the banana hammock.

Warning, the end is rear.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/veo/268959862/in/phohttp://www.flickr.com/photos/veo/268959271/in/pho

elviouslyqueer April 30, 2012 at 2:41 pm

Pics or GTFO.

bagofmice April 30, 2012 at 3:54 pm

Check upthread.

weejee April 30, 2012 at 1:39 pm

Typical. The head ghey thug doing a bully beatdown on Jeebus' perfect lambs. Then after that Dan likely slathered them in santorum.

Tommy1733 April 30, 2012 at 2:41 pm

Sounds like you don't really get the situation of either side very well.

Ann_ObeyMe_Money April 30, 2012 at 3:08 pm

I'm sure they all had screaming orgasms at the thought. Biggest fucking screaming queens in the GALAXY!!

actor212 April 30, 2012 at 1:40 pm

“It became hostile,” he said. “It felt hostile as we were sitting in the audience – especially towards Christians who espouse beliefs that he was literally taking on.”

So like how in class, Biblethumpers poke fun at teh gheys, I think?

sullivanst April 30, 2012 at 2:38 pm

They can dish it out, but the First Amendment clearly states that on no account must they ever be made to take it.

Ann_ObeyMe_Money April 30, 2012 at 3:10 pm

These pathetic little shits have NO IDEA what hostile feels like. They need to show up at one of our AIDS marches or Pride fests and start spouting their shit to those of us who have had friends/family beat down by their thugs. They'll be begging for Danny's Savagery in three minutes flat.

bagofmice April 30, 2012 at 3:38 pm

It's almost like he was bullying them.

KennyFuckingPowers April 30, 2012 at 1:40 pm

The word of the Readers Digest is more liberating than the Bible.

Major Thom April 30, 2012 at 1:49 pm

The word of Zap Comix is more liberating than the bible.

Fare la Volpe April 30, 2012 at 2:07 pm

You should read Bazooka Joe's letter to the Ephesians.

Infrogmation April 30, 2012 at 2:40 pm

And much more up to date!

littlebigdaddy April 30, 2012 at 9:18 pm

I am Joe's liver!

CapnFatback April 30, 2012 at 1:40 pm

By walking out, these budding journalists:

1) Became the story
2) Brazenly chose to ignore a view distinct from their own

I'd say that they're all ready for their internships at Fox News.

SkinnyNerd April 30, 2012 at 2:05 pm

It goes on the resume:

Walked out of Dan Savage speech. Do not like to listen to conflicting views. Do not care to listen where someone is going with their statements. Walking out. The adult and professional thing to do. Can I have a jobz reporting? LOL.

Ann_ObeyMe_Money April 30, 2012 at 3:11 pm

I suspect those "internships" include lots of ballgags, floggers, slings, hammocks, and rope-tying that would put a Japanese Madam to shame. Which is why they're so eager.

Hera Sent Me April 30, 2012 at 1:40 pm

Savage was wrong. The solution to intolerance isn't more of it.

CapnFatback April 30, 2012 at 1:51 pm

That's one of those sayings that looks better on a bumper sticker than in the context of a nuanced argument.

I'd agree that Savage perhaps came on too strong for his audience; however, that's what you get when you ask Dan Savage to speak. However, I hope I never stop being intolerant to ideas that promote bigotry and hatred.

finallyhappy April 30, 2012 at 2:19 pm

Ramen, bro!!! Intolerance of bigotry is not the same as real intolerance.

bagofmice April 30, 2012 at 3:58 pm

Well, you have to admit that Savage is his middle last name.

sullivanst April 30, 2012 at 2:40 pm

Did you actually listen to his remarks, or read the transcript?

If you can't distinguish between pointing out glaring hypocrisy, and intolerance, you're not qualified to make pronouncements on intolerance.

Radiotherapy April 30, 2012 at 1:41 pm

Way to stand your ground, Dan.

Fluffy_Kitties April 30, 2012 at 1:42 pm

It's all very simple.

Republicans are the grown-up bullies who harassed you in High School.

Democrats are the school administrators who refused to discipline the bullies.

Gays are the drama students who always got busted for smoking on school grounds.

Fare la Volpe April 30, 2012 at 2:07 pm

And Darrel Issa was the delinquent who stole your car. World keeps on spinnin'.

1stNewtontheMoon April 30, 2012 at 2:09 pm

some of the republicans are dipshit bullies all grown up (e.g. former aggie yell leader Rick Perry). others are fat little hall monitors who got molested by their algebra teacher (Newt). others are fat, not-so-bright kids who got bullied and when they found themselves in a position to fuck over every regular schmoe from their hometown, they took full advantage (80% of g.o.p. congressmen). others still are the little social experiments who "chose" not to fuck and drink and are still jealous of all the kids who went to the cool parties.

BigSkullF*ckingDog April 30, 2012 at 1:44 pm

Boy, I really hope none of them commit suicide.

Jus_Wonderin April 30, 2012 at 2:18 pm

Because they should have been raised to have more self esteem??

Negropolis May 1, 2012 at 2:54 am

WIN

Really, this puts it all in context.

Chow Yun Flat April 30, 2012 at 1:44 pm

This is outrageous–teenagers would stop having sex if Dan Savage would stop talking about it.

SheriffRoscoe April 30, 2012 at 1:46 pm

Oh Dan, Dan, Dan……please don't try to walk your comments back now. They were awesome. You think Christians will love you more if you apologize for calling bullshit on their crazy ass beliefs?

Fare la Volpe April 30, 2012 at 2:06 pm

Dan's not apologizing to the saps he pissed off. He's apologizing to his publisher and advertisers.

SheriffRoscoe April 30, 2012 at 2:11 pm

Point taken.

sullivanst April 30, 2012 at 2:43 pm

He also didn't apologize for calling bullshit. He apologized for calling the walkout pansy-assed, and then reiterated how the Biblical excuse for gaybashing is bullshit.

mavenmaven April 30, 2012 at 1:48 pm

I've been a long time fan of his, as a straight man, so I think its fair to acknowledge that sometimes a gig doesn't go well.

Mahousu April 30, 2012 at 1:49 pm

He should have pulled out some aborted fetuses in a jar. Then it would have been all right, somehow.

Diabeetis April 30, 2012 at 1:50 pm

Well, admittedly, I think Savage is full of crap, too, albeit for different reasons than the righties. The things he wrote about the support that Prop. 8 received from blacks were blatantly racist.

SheriffRoscoe April 30, 2012 at 1:51 pm

Such as?

Diabeetis April 30, 2012 at 1:56 pm
BigSkullF*ckingDog April 30, 2012 at 2:05 pm

What the Jezebel post left out of the original post …

"Seventy percent of African American voters approved Prop 8, according to exit polls, compared to 53% of Latino voters, 49% of white voters, 49% of Asian voters."

Facts are hard to dismiss, even If they sometimes make us uncomfortable.

SheriffRoscoe April 30, 2012 at 2:09 pm

Well, there was also the issue of rights being denied to blacks at some time or other in our nation's history, and gays of all races were all WHAT THE FUCK is up with that.

finallyhappy April 30, 2012 at 2:22 pm

Many of the black legislators in PG county voted against the same-sex marriage law that passed in Maryland. A fact doesn't make it racist.

Bonghits4Jesus April 30, 2012 at 1:52 pm

Proselytizing is bullying. Proselytizing is essential to evangelical Christianity.

SorosBot April 30, 2012 at 1:54 pm

Dan Savage is wrong here; Christianity is bullshit, all of it, just some of the bullshit is more just silly, like belief in virgin births or a dead guy coming back to life, and not dangerous like the justifications for homophobia and misogyny (and, back in the day, slavery).

redarmyzombie April 30, 2012 at 3:20 pm

Also, just sayin': Ishtar's zombieism was way cooler than Jesus'.

Wile E. Quixote April 30, 2012 at 3:46 pm

I'd have to disagree with you there. I think there are some very good moral lessons in the Bible, even for non-Christians. Consider this from the Gospel of Matthew:

Take heed that ye do not your righteousness before men, to be seen of them: else ye have no reward with your Father who is in heaven.
2 When therefore thou doest alms, sound not a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have received their reward.
3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
4 that thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father who seeth in secret shall recompense thee.
5 And when ye pray, ye shall not be as the hypocrites: for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have received their reward.
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thine inner chamber, and having shut thy door, pray to thy Father who is in secret, and thy Father who seeth in secret shall recompense thee.
7 And in praying use not vain repetitions, as the Gentiles do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
8 Be not therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
9 After this manner therefore pray ye. Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so on earth.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 And bring us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.
14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
16 Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may be seen of men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have received their reward.
17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thy head, and wash thy face;
18 that thou be not seen of men to fast, but of thy Father who is in secret: and thy Father, who seeth in secret, shall recompense thee.

What Jesus is saying here is "Look, if you're going to do what's good and right you should do it because it's good and right, not because you're some kind of arrogant dick who's saying "Hey everyone! Look at me! Doing good things and praying to God." because then it's not about the deed and doing what's good and right, it's about you, and your'e a dick. Ignoring this admonition of Christ's is just one of the many reasons why everyone who went to Rick Perry's Big-Tent Evangelical Christapalooza last summer is going to burn in Hell for all eternity with Satan's cock in their ass.

Wile E. Quixote April 30, 2012 at 3:50 pm

There's also this moral lesson, again from the Gospel of Matthew.

24 "No man can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will hold to the one and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Which is another reason why Evangelicals are all going to burn in Hell, because Evangelical Christianity isn't about the Jesus. It's about the Mammon. Then there's this moral lesson.

"Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged; and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, `Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye,' and behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Which is basically saying "Don't be a judgmental dick unless you really, really, really have your shit together. And even if you do have your shit together don't bother being a judgmental dick because it's a dick move." a valuable moral lesson even for non-Christians and yet another reason why Evangelical Christians, who are all about pointing out the speck of sawdust in their brother's eye while ignoring the beam in their own, and by beam I mean "closets full of wetsuits, dildos and poppers" can look forward to eternal torment in Hell with Satan's cock in their ass.

Wile E. Quixote April 30, 2012 at 3:52 pm

And one more moral lesson from the Bible, again from the Gospel of Matthew:

12 Therefore, all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them; for this is the Law and the Prophets.

that whole "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" thing. A valuable moral precept and a huge failing of Evangelical Christianity. Yes, there's a lot of good stuff in the Bible, and it's a real pity that Evangelical Christians don't pay any attention to it and instead focus on the Old Testament and the Book of Revelations, which of course means that they'll all end up burning in Hell for all eternity while being raped by all of Satan's demons.

bagofmice April 30, 2012 at 4:10 pm

You have to give him some respect. Yo Dickens, "Call me Ishmael" was good, but starting off a book with the quasi-tautological phrase "In the beginning there was the word" has got to be one of the cheekiest opening lines of all time.

Stevola May 1, 2012 at 12:55 am

Like when Melville wrote, "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times"

Fare la Volpe April 30, 2012 at 1:54 pm

My remarks can only be read as an attack on all Christians if you believe that all Christians are hypocrites.

Meow. Bitch be throwin' shade.

proudgrampa April 30, 2012 at 1:56 pm

Some of my best friends wear Speedos.

Tommy1733 April 30, 2012 at 2:42 pm

Some of my best friends are part owners of Speedo International Ltd.

ttommyunger April 30, 2012 at 1:56 pm

So, you invite Dan Fucking Savage to speak and expect him to talk about the weather, fer Chrissakes? Dan didn't do his cause any favors( I also believe in his cause) but the morans who invited him are to blame for any blow-back. There is a time to speak bluntly and a time to hold your fire a little. Dan slept through that lesson. I guess I blame both equally. I mean, really, I don't want to hear about any man in a speedo.

SheriffRoscoe April 30, 2012 at 2:01 pm

Welcome to my world, every year when the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition hits the stands.

redarmyzombie April 30, 2012 at 3:21 pm

Oh, tell me about it…

hagajim April 30, 2012 at 2:04 pm

Problem is – hold your fire and Dan Savage can't be in the same ballpark together, much less the same room.

sullivanst April 30, 2012 at 3:41 pm

He was invited to talk about bullying, to aspiring journalists. Given what's been in the news recently about bullying, this is simply impossible to do without covering what the Christianist assholes are trying to do to anti-bullying efforts. Apparently, though, while saying that being gay is wrong is perfectly fine if you do it because you're a Christianist asshole, saying that bullying people who don't believe the same fairytales as you is wrong is not in the least bit fine.

Savage is completely right. It's totally, utterly, undeniably bullshit. Hypocritical, bullying, pansy-ass bullshit.

I'd also like to point out, when you look at the video, the first person caught on camera walking out did so before he even said the word "bullshit".

Finally, as Towleroad points out, the conference was called Journalism on the Edge. Perhaps some edginess should have been anticipated?

ttommyunger April 30, 2012 at 10:06 pm

I don't agree with any of your points, I just hate to see lovers of polarization have such an opportunity handed to them on a silver platter.

sullivanst May 1, 2012 at 10:24 am

If you don't allow yourself to say anything that lovers of polarization are going to freak out about, you're taking a vow of eternal silence. They will always find something to complain about, it's what they do.

ttommyunger May 1, 2012 at 11:59 am

I meant to say I don't DISagree. Sorry, senior moment.

sullivanst May 1, 2012 at 10:58 am

You know what, this is just making me really peevish.

A bunch of cultists take concerted action to try to enshrine into law that they're allowed to ignore a lot of really important stuff in their own religion so they can focus on the couple of passing mentions that ghey is eebil and use those to bully kids on the basis of their sexual orientation, and saying this is bullshit is the outrage? Fuck that with a rusty chainsaw. If you can't take people calling your vicious hypocrisy out, don't be hypocritically vicious.

ttommyunger May 1, 2012 at 12:00 pm

Sorry, I meant to type “DISAGREE”. SENIOR MOMENT.

SkinnyNerd April 30, 2012 at 1:58 pm

This was pure poetry.

The Savage comments, not Fox's coverage.

Oblios_Cap April 30, 2012 at 2:01 pm

Dan Savage is History's Worst Monster! Maybe even History's Worstest Monster Ever!

AlterNewt April 30, 2012 at 3:43 pm

Strong words.

vtxmcrider April 30, 2012 at 11:41 pm

Have you ever heard of Dick Cheney?

lulzmonger May 1, 2012 at 6:43 am

Jimmy Carter haz a sad.

FakaktaSouth April 30, 2012 at 2:04 pm

As a person who has also pissed some people off by calling bullshit bullshit, I salute Dan Savage. I would however like to say I AM HORRIFIED at the perpetuation of the Speedo lifestyle. That is an UNACCEPTIBLE choice for ANY man and there might have to be a Constitutional amendment if they insist on keeping that up.

Chichikovovich April 30, 2012 at 2:12 pm

Yeah!!! Move to Brazil, ya perverts!

Fare la Volpe April 30, 2012 at 2:16 pm

No offense, Fakakta, but the men who are walking around in speedos are probably not wearing them to catch your eye, if youcatchmydrift.

FakaktaSouth April 30, 2012 at 2:30 pm

I TOTALLY dig that – however, since I'm not really allowed to touch any randos on the beach anyway, AND the ones with the best bods are usually the ones who don't wanna do my kind, I'm still saying no. I figure this is about as much my business as every other thing everybody tries to boss gay people around for, so ya know…I may as well give it a shot. And, mostly, I'm an equal opportunity letch, I don't really care what the intentions of the subjects of my letchery are…

DaRooster April 30, 2012 at 2:10 pm

”untrue words or ideas”—in the Bible.

WTF?!?!

MozakiBlocks April 30, 2012 at 2:12 pm

I'll make it real simple for these folks. Stop with the bullshit and people will stop calling it bullshit.

niblick77 April 30, 2012 at 2:15 pm

What? The Christians did not like getting bullied? Good example Mr. Savage. Good example.

Chow Yun Flat April 30, 2012 at 2:15 pm

Savage, a practicing homosexual, is said to have leveled a lot of gay animosity at the youth who believe in Jesus Christ

Allen Iverson says "We're talking about practice man. (laughter from the media crowd) We're talking about practice. We're talking about practice. We're not talking about the game. We're talking about practice."

Dan Savage doesn't need your damn practice, right wing jerk. He is a gay MVP.

finallyhappy April 30, 2012 at 2:24 pm

A practicing homosexual? what the hell does that mean? I'm pretty sure Dan is past the practice stage

horsedreamer_1 April 30, 2012 at 9:32 pm

"But, approach me with faggot tendencies, you be laying where the maggots be".

gizdal April 30, 2012 at 2:16 pm

so dan savages the christers! well, well, what else is new? but just remember this-
jesus never read the bible!

finallyhappy April 30, 2012 at 2:25 pm

Not according to t \his woman I worked with many years ago- dumb as dirt redneck. She nearly had a heart attack when I told her Jesus was Jewish and she started almost screaming- no he wasn't , he was Catholic. I started to laugh and then she got really angry.

Jus_Wonderin April 30, 2012 at 2:27 pm

Yeah, we need one of those tags "I'm Jesus Christ and I approve of this message". Will we get it…fuck no.

bagofmice April 30, 2012 at 4:17 pm

I'm fairly certain that in the books, one of those notes was tacked onto the cross like he was.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus,_King_of_the_J

Jus_Wonderin April 30, 2012 at 4:26 pm

Or on the stone. A “Ghost It” note, so to speak?

b[redact]opple April 30, 2012 at 2:29 pm

This is offensive to those of us who would look disgusting in a Speedo. Apart from that I don't see what everyone is all butthurt about.

anniegetyerfun April 30, 2012 at 2:44 pm

Le sigh. What a cocksucker.

bagofmice April 30, 2012 at 4:18 pm

You sound jealous.

dancesw_cougars April 30, 2012 at 2:45 pm

If the news printed stories truthfully this would have been the headline on CNN:

"Butt-hurt Christian students walk out after Dan Savage calls out Biblical hypocrisy."

Troglodeity April 30, 2012 at 3:00 pm

I'm a Christian and, truth be told, we are kind of a pansy-assed religion. When we practice it right.

Doktor StrangeZoom April 30, 2012 at 3:04 pm

Should we now assume that Tenessee will at least offer people the option of stoning non-virgin brides?

fuflans April 30, 2012 at 3:06 pm

fuck yeah i'm bigoted against christians.

owhatever April 30, 2012 at 3:25 pm

He was talking to the National High School Journalism Conference sponsored by the Journalism Education Association and the National Scholastic Press Association. These kids want to be serious "reporters," but do not want to listen to contrary opinions? Fox News in a nutshell. Screw the First Amendment, except when they need to hide behind it.

Antispandex April 30, 2012 at 3:29 pm

"…and said his husband looked good in a Speedo! WILL NO ONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?"

Dude, NO ONE looks good in a Speedo! OK, twenty something Water Polo players, and a few topless super models, but this is America, so most people? No.

Pat_Pending April 30, 2012 at 3:47 pm

needz moar smiting.

Nesnora April 30, 2012 at 4:52 pm

Isn't it about time we cut the fake puritanical outrage about innuendos and just admit what has been going on for thousands of years:

The kids are fuckin'.

It's the reason why Dan is candid, and anything less would just kick in the boredom which makes them go back to thinking about fuckin' during the assembly anyway.

DahBoner April 30, 2012 at 5:22 pm

Thank goodness these young Christian kids stood up for Christian hypocrisy!

For example, Jesus commanded not to pray in public, like those hypocrites who pray in public.

HOW WILL YOU SHOW THOSE NON-CHRISTIANS HOW GOOD OF A CHRISTIAN YOU ARE UNLESS YOU IGNORE THE PARTS YOU DON'T LIKE AND USE THE PARTS YOU LIKE TO BASH PEOPLE LIKE DAN SAVAGE???

lochnessmonster April 30, 2012 at 5:22 pm

He was just letting them know what it feels like to be bullied…a taste of their own medicine for hating' on the gays?

glamourdammerung April 30, 2012 at 5:47 pm

Funny that they had to make up a "controversy" rather than acknowledge that whining about how not being allowed to harm homosexuals is somehow "anti-Christian", which is far more of a negative statement about their faith than anything Savage could have said.

swordfis April 30, 2012 at 8:01 pm

Pardon me for suggesting this, but is there a possibility that Dan Savage is something of an asshole? (not that I disagree with him.)

horsedreamer_1 April 30, 2012 at 9:33 pm

You are what you eat!

LadyWisdom April 30, 2012 at 10:54 pm

Is this the first time Dan Savage has spoken to an audience of kids? If so, someone should have warned him about speaking truth to them. You can't tell kids the truth. Not allowed. That was his first mistake.

Second, he was wrong to apologize if he called the bible bullshit. See above.

Negropolis May 1, 2012 at 2:31 am

Wait, what kind of sexual innuendo is not appropriate for a 17-year-old? Have they been around any 17-year-olds, lately? What the hell don't those little bastards know about unconventional sex?

lulzmonger May 1, 2012 at 6:50 am

Mistakes were made, pearls were clutched, a nonpology was issued.

But more importantly … how does Sarah Palin feel about this?

SolitaireRose May 1, 2012 at 9:13 am

I think it was a great idea by the school to bring in a well known sex advice columnist. I'm hoping their next speakers will be Ron Jeremy, Sasha Grey and Bristol Palin.

PrimusCapio May 1, 2012 at 11:14 am

Maybe I am not getting this right…I have never read anywhere in the Bible that gives a excuse for gaybashing…Why are people keep saything that?

thefrontpage May 1, 2012 at 12:23 pm

"Dan Savage should be president of the United States–I love Dan Savage. He's a good-looking young man, too," Fox News Buffoon Ted Nugent said during an interview with Sausage! magazine, am American gay magazine. "In fact, I would marry Dan Savage, if I wasn't already married. I would have relations with him every day–he's that good-looking. Dan wrote several songs on my new album, you know."

Whollyholeyholy August 7, 2012 at 5:37 pm

I mostly love him, but this *is* kinda using the bully pulpit.

doubletheennui September 1, 2012 at 3:47 am

“I thought this would be about anti-bullying,” Tuttle told Fox news. “It turned into a pointed attack on Christian beliefs.”

…haven't these people ever googled "santorum???"

sullivanst May 1, 2012 at 12:04 pm

Well, that's different. Never mind.

;)

ttommyunger May 1, 2012 at 12:21 pm

So sorry to be so old and stupid. I didn't catch my error until I re-read my comment on your notification.

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