THOMAS JEFFERSON IS SO PROUD  8:23 pm April 26, 2012

Democracy Canceled in Michigan Because of Incorrect Font Size on Form

by Kirsten Boyd Johnson

Over two hundred thousand people in Michigan are unhappy about a state law that allows Republican governor Rick Snyder to declare martial financial law in struggling municipalities and bypass local governments by installing wee tyrant “emergency financial managers” who are allowed to void the official status of public unions, sell off public assets, declare dead cat carcass legal tender, etc. Whatever they want, as long as all the budget savings are immediately passed on in the form of corporate tax cuts. So the unhappy citizens all signed petitions to force the state to hold a public referendum on the law and then promptly submitted the signatures. What do you think of that, Republican members of the state body responsible for certifying the petitions? Let’s check the report: “Republicans cited the wrong font size on the title of the petitions circulated by Stand Up For Democracy, a coalition of groups that launched the petition campaign, as the reason for not approving the initiative for the ballot. Opponents gathered 203,238 signatures, roughly 40,000 more than needed to get a repeal question on the ballot.”

This should go over well!

The Board of State Canvassers deadlocked 2-2 along party lines Thursday on whether Michiganians will get to vote in November on a repeal of the controversial emergency manager law — sparking angry shouts of “shame” and “fascists” from the audience.

The vote means for now the question won’t appear on the general election ballot, but supporters said they’d challenge the decision before the Court of Appeals to try to force the question onto the ballot.

The printer says the petitions met the state requirement that the font size on the petition headlines be 14-point, so the Republicans are using their own standard from outer space, as usual. [Detroit News]

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CivicHoliday April 26, 2012 at 8:29 pm

Not the wrong font SIZE, wrong FONT! Zapf Dingbat is the only approved font for petitions. Never mind that it is illegible…

elfgoldsackring April 26, 2012 at 8:34 pm

Patriots prefer WingNutDings, thank you very much.

Swampgas_Man April 26, 2012 at 8:49 pm

I prefer Dingdongs, but I'm pretty sure they don't make 'em anymore.

AlterNewt April 26, 2012 at 9:18 pm
emmelemm April 26, 2012 at 8:50 pm

Comic Sans?

glasspusher April 26, 2012 at 9:03 pm

Comic, Sans irony

bagofmice April 27, 2012 at 6:04 am

It was sans irony as it was more leady, tinny, and antimony.

nonbeliever7 April 27, 2012 at 8:21 am

Behold the power of a comma in the hands of a Wonkette commenter.

mrpuma2u April 26, 2012 at 8:57 pm

Comic Sans is not an acceptable substitute???

Karma_Suture April 26, 2012 at 11:48 pm

Cosmic sands

Wheat….. fields of wheat.

Typodong3 April 26, 2012 at 9:37 pm

Comic Sans…. clearly.

Dudleydidwrong April 26, 2012 at 11:07 pm

Arial blah 72 point should be visible even to blind Michigan Republican morans. That's the font that Barry uses for his personal correspondence letter thingies.

bikerlaureate April 26, 2012 at 8:29 pm

Pica libel ?

Ann_ObeyMe_Money April 26, 2012 at 10:39 pm

Piika libel?

Wile E. Quixote April 26, 2012 at 8:32 pm

The Republican commissioners on this board might want to reflect upon the fact that "second amendment solutions" is a sword that cuts both ways.

ManchuCandidate April 26, 2012 at 8:33 pm

If it wasn't the size then the font. Democracy's only for people who use Times New Roman.

comrad_darkness April 27, 2012 at 1:25 pm

And tyranny is only for people who use Times New Roman Emperor

Man0nTheStreet April 26, 2012 at 8:34 pm

No Democracy – is this the White ReThuglican Sharia Law we were told about?

EtchySketchy April 26, 2012 at 8:34 pm

Needz more Comic Sans!

johnnyzhivago April 26, 2012 at 8:37 pm

Hey, I was going to organize a Facebook petition to ban Trebuchet!

Texan_Bulldog April 26, 2012 at 9:10 pm

Verdana sucks ass…

Lascauxcaveman April 26, 2012 at 11:09 pm

Papyrus makes me puke.

Man0nTheStreet April 26, 2012 at 8:39 pm

"You were required to use 14π-point fonts, you stoopid libs!"

Veritas78 April 26, 2012 at 8:41 pm

So now we're Egypt? Okay, let's see how that works out.

The problem with thwarting democracy is that people then come up with their own forms of justice. Like lampposts. Which come in all font sizes.

emmelemm April 26, 2012 at 8:52 pm

The lampposts are just the right height.

(Hey, that's even more appropriate, given the state in question!)

EtchySketchy April 26, 2012 at 8:43 pm

Needs to be the same type and size used on Sarah Palin's palm:

14 point Fuck-Knuckle font

Fare la Volpe April 26, 2012 at 10:07 pm

Matches her moose knuckle.

Radiotherapy April 26, 2012 at 10:47 pm

It's a typeface for a fuckface.

Crank_Tango April 26, 2012 at 10:57 pm

I hear she can take more knuckles than 14…

Man0nTheStreet April 27, 2012 at 12:16 am

A hand-warming muff?

Wile E. Quixote April 26, 2012 at 8:44 pm

Yes, it should have been in Tannenberg Fett und auch mit Umlauts und Hakenkreuze!

Biff April 26, 2012 at 9:43 pm

And Boba Fett is dead!

mavenmaven April 26, 2012 at 8:44 pm

This will be bad for Republicans if they insist that size does matter.

LeathrTuscadero April 27, 2012 at 6:47 am

And we all know the preezy has a BIG stick. Joe said so. Right before they hauled him away to be wordlessly replaced by Hillary on the ticket.

SexySmurf April 26, 2012 at 8:44 pm

The petition was also rejected because Hugh G. Rection, Mike Hawk and Heywood Jablome signed in blue ink instead of black.

johnnymeatworth April 26, 2012 at 8:45 pm

I. Ron Butterfly

horsedreamer_1 April 26, 2012 at 8:49 pm

Also: Marshall Mathers, Slim Shady, & Eminem signed separately, though clearly multiple personalities in the same host should allow for only one signature.

Harry_S_Truman April 26, 2012 at 8:51 pm

Phil McCrackin.

OzoneTom April 26, 2012 at 9:32 pm

I understand that Mike Hunt was also guilty of this transgression.

Angry_Marmot April 26, 2012 at 11:09 pm

Wilma Fingerdo is the girl for me.

DemmeFatale April 26, 2012 at 11:32 pm

And that old school PG favorite: I. P. Freely.

(I love you guys.)

valthemus April 27, 2012 at 11:13 am

Dear Wonkette Commenters,

Your puerile behaviour offends me no end!

Succma Weenie

Harry_S_Truman April 26, 2012 at 8:45 pm

Hey, I live here, and I have to tell you that this is not the first time this has come up. There are stupid-ass rules, yes, but they are there for all to read, and the dumbfuck assholes who can't read have no one to blame but themselves for this fiasco.

Designer_Rants April 26, 2012 at 9:30 pm

Yeah but, KBJ sez the font size was correct?

Harry_S_Truman April 26, 2012 at 10:11 pm

There is a huge fight over whether the font size is or is not proper. That's not been resolved; neither has the standard by which the font size is to be measured, nor has the standard by which "substantial compliance" with the statute is to be judeged. This will go to the Court of Appeals (which could go either way, depending upon the make-up of the panel), and then to the state Supreme Court, where, unless there is no doubt that the petitions were in compliance with the statute, they will strike it down. Michigan has, perhaps, the most ideologically biased Supreme Court in the country, and now it's tipped 4-3 in favor of the GOP.

And, just for the record, I signed that petition.

sewollef April 27, 2012 at 8:42 am

I'm with the republicans on this one.

If Rockwell Extra Bold Condensed 14pt wasn't in the Constitution then it has no right being in our democracy. Socialist fonts will only pollute our pure unsullied founding document.

Be gone with you — liberal!

Designer_Rants April 27, 2012 at 11:27 am

Well, at least you can rest assured that this is a clear victory for ideology.

Wile E. Quixote April 26, 2012 at 9:39 pm

If you had bothered to RTFA you might have noticed that the printer says that the font is the correct size and that Timmer and Shinkle, the two commissioners who voted not to certify the petitions, are full of shit.

Biff April 26, 2012 at 9:45 pm

One of 'em is also employed by the people that brought the font size question up in the first place, so no WAY is there a conflict of interest, right?

Harry_S_Truman April 26, 2012 at 10:07 pm

Huge conflict of interest. There was an effort to get him to recuse himself, but that failed.

Harry_S_Truman April 26, 2012 at 10:07 pm

If YOU had bothered to read the fucking article, you would have noted that there is no difinitive resolution as to whether the font size is correct. Moreover, see immediately above.

Wile E. Quixote April 26, 2012 at 10:20 pm

Well I did read the RTFA, and its obvious to me that you still haven't bothered to do so. From TFA.

Sanders testified there are several complicated formulas for determining font size, saying it's impossible to determine if headline type met the 14 point requirement simply by using a ruler.

"If we are wrong, then the scientifically accepted formula for determining font size is wrong, if we are wrong then the Court of Appeals is wrong … if we are wrong then democracy is wrong," Sanders said.

Printer Bruce Hack of Inland Press said he certified the type size met legal requirements before printing the petitions.

"There is no way that you can just measure a capital letter and determine what the type size is," Hack said.

Now, if you weren't an intellectually dishonest and had read the article you might have a certain skepticism about the fact that Timmer has a massive conflict of interests and that neither Timmer nor Shinkle has any expertise whatsoever with typography. You might have also, again, if you weren't intellectually dishonest and had actually read the article, asked who determined that the font size was incorrect and upon what basis was this determination made? But that would have been hard work, so instead you made a stupid and rather ill-informed comment about "ha ha, Demonrats are dum!"

Harry_S_Truman April 26, 2012 at 10:31 pm

Look, asshole, I read not only this article, but several others, and am intimately involved in this issue. But even the article you quoted from–in two separate places–says that the issue of the font size has not been resolved. That the printer says the font size meets the legal standard is not a definitive finding, and the fact that Timmer has a conflict of interest is well known here.

I merely pointed ou that the law is plain, and we would have been wiser to not give the GOP any issue upon which they could find fault with the petitions.

So blow me.

Biff April 26, 2012 at 9:49 pm

Then why does your profile state that you are the "mild-mannered sheriff of a small town in Washington State (pop. 51,209)?

Harry_S_Truman April 26, 2012 at 10:08 pm

'Cuz you don't get the allusion?

bikerlaureate April 26, 2012 at 11:29 pm

Bookhouse Boys rule.

MilwaukeeKent April 26, 2012 at 9:55 pm

Sounds like they complied with the rules, but with the Kafka-esque set-up of this Board (4 members, 2 GOP and 2 Dem, 3 votes needed) complying with the rules didn't mean shit. Comply with the rules and the rules will change. Only thing that might have been done wrong is not to run the petition form before the Board prior to circulating. Seems that's not required but "suggested". I can see them "suggesting" they redo the form again, and again, no matter how closely the form complied with the law, if it ever could. If the proponents did succeed in getting the form layout approved and circulated, they'd pull another rule out of their ass requiring signatures only in red or green ink.
You guys can't get rid of Snyder and his TP pals fast enough.

Harry_S_Truman April 26, 2012 at 10:09 pm

God knows we're trying to get rid of his ass. He is one of the greatest sham candidates of all time.

MilwaukeeKent April 26, 2012 at 11:11 pm

On a par with Rick Scott in Florida, Walker and that poor doomed bastard in Ohio.

Karma_Suture April 26, 2012 at 11:53 pm

Dude, I met Harry S. Truman
And you're no Harry S. Truman.

gullywompr April 26, 2012 at 8:46 pm

I guess only the trees are the right size in Michigan.

Biff April 26, 2012 at 9:46 pm

Assholes are all enlarged.

bikerlaureate April 26, 2012 at 8:46 pm

Had the board voted to put the repeal question on the ballot, P.A. 4 would have been immediately suspended. Terry Stanton, spokesman for the state Department of Treasury, said Public Act 72 would then be revived. P.A 72 of 1990 allows for the appointment of emergency managers that have fewer powers than those granted under the current law. P.A. 4 gives emergency managers added powers, such as voiding union contracts and stripping elected officials of their posts.

Democracy is tolerated only when it doesn't interfere with the Right Man's Burden.

horsedreamer_1 April 26, 2012 at 8:50 pm

Sounds like a case for Josh Hamilton & his "Fontly Speaking" team.

MistaEko April 26, 2012 at 8:57 pm

It's a sign of the Times new roman that these republican Wingdings will pull anything out of the Arial in order to make a negative Impact on democrats and Courier favor with their overlords. Soon we'll be living in a downright Gothic era, or worse, have a nationwide Georgia. I'll see these bastards in Helvetica.

HistoriCat April 26, 2012 at 10:14 pm

It's not the Baroque age – you need to look to the Futura. So be Bold and don't act like some Italic Serif.

sewollef April 27, 2012 at 7:13 am

I saw what you Didot there….

But at least your grand Opus will last for Perpetua — or for this New Century of ours.

Although, you don't sound too Lucida…. maybe we should Kabel your doctor for advice? After all we don't want any Akzidenz to happen, Grotesk or otherwise.

Barrelhse April 26, 2012 at 8:57 pm

It's not polite to point.

Sharkey April 26, 2012 at 9:03 pm

Pssshawww, that's only about 2 hours of work for an auto-pen.

PsycWench April 26, 2012 at 9:09 pm

Maybe they should talk to the Republicans who found no problem with the butterfly ballot in 2000.

Mumbly_Joe April 26, 2012 at 9:09 pm

John Hancock wept.

Isyaignert April 27, 2012 at 12:23 am

Hahaha!! Good one!

Texan_Bulldog April 26, 2012 at 9:12 pm

Silly Michiganers (and everybody else)…don't they know Diebold machines are currently being programmed as we type?

Chichikovovich April 26, 2012 at 9:15 pm

Michigan Rule, explicitly stated in the State Constitution that in order to have immediate effect, the 90 day waiting period for legislation to take effect must be waived by a 2/3 majority of the legislature?

Petty formality, to be flouted by Republicans whenever it's convenient, which is, for them, always.

Typeface standard that (if not just pulled out of the Republicans' asses) was set by some subcommittee in Lansing that just wanted to adjourn as quickly as possible?

Absolutely rock-solid unbudgable principle of democracy. Rules matter.

Welcome to the scary mind of the Michigan Republican.

Monsieur_Grumpe April 26, 2012 at 9:17 pm

Sounds like a job for the Tea Baggers. Oh yeah, they elected this constitutional molesting moron.

Mahousu April 26, 2012 at 9:17 pm

Michigan's 14 pt. requirement is just an homage to Woodrow Wilson's Fourteen Points. So really, it's all the Democrats' fault. Again.

PubOption April 26, 2012 at 9:25 pm

The Reagan worshippers wanted to use thousand point (of light) type.

Man0nTheStreet April 26, 2012 at 10:54 pm

Wilson was a racist (anti- black, brown, some types of white) douchebag.

Designer_Rants April 26, 2012 at 9:33 pm

Scott Walker?

Wile E. Quixote April 26, 2012 at 9:40 pm

George W. Bush?

horsedreamer_1 April 26, 2012 at 11:31 pm

Brooks Was Here.

gullywompr April 26, 2012 at 9:40 pm

Robert Byrd?

radiomankc April 26, 2012 at 9:37 pm

Another reason… another state where the people of America realize Republicans aren't fit to govern and have no respect for democracy. Vote all republicans out in 2012, state, local and national.

Mahousu April 26, 2012 at 9:41 pm

Every Congress ever?

A tougher question would be, who didn't?

horsedreamer_1 April 26, 2012 at 9:45 pm

Norm Coleman?

Monsieur_Grumpe April 26, 2012 at 9:57 pm

Hermes Conrad?

Chow Yun Flat April 26, 2012 at 10:16 pm

Ice water on the table at which the board had been sitting was spilled as Timmer and Shinkle tried to calm their critics

Spilled ice water!! Vicious union thuggery in Michigan.

bikerlaureate April 26, 2012 at 11:32 pm

This is just as bad as surveyor's marks. Or economic matters discussed anywhere but in Quiet Rooms.

LionHeartSoyDog April 27, 2012 at 3:39 am

Tinkle and Shimmer.
Floor wax or delicious dessert topping?

SorosBot April 26, 2012 at 10:23 pm

Cato the Younger, inventor of the filibuster?

MilwaukeeKent April 26, 2012 at 10:25 pm

Nice little ALEC dry run they got going there, a few pilot projects, a little time and they can replicate it big,on whole large cities in fact. Just overturn the local duly-elected officials and run the place in a more "business-like, business friendly" way, a place where "The Tax-Payer is King." Except in cases like this, "Sorry, Tax-payers, but this petition isn't printed with 80% Soy Ink, 20% Ostrich Blood, as specified."

SorosBot April 26, 2012 at 10:29 pm

Quite frankly, many of 2010's crop of Republican governors are making Joffrey "Baratheon" seem like a fair and just ruler by comparison.

fuflans April 26, 2012 at 11:33 pm

game of thrones ftw!

SorosBot April 26, 2012 at 11:57 pm

The problem is, eight years of being ruled by W makes being controlled by a total psychopath born of twincest seem like a walk in the park by comparison.

Generation[redacted] April 27, 2012 at 12:55 pm

Apparently you can't use a fair and just ruler to measure 14pt font.

Wile E. Quixote April 26, 2012 at 10:30 pm

Our attorney general in Washington, Rob McKenna, is running for governor this year. I fear that if McKenna gets elected he's going to start pulling the same shit in Washington that Snyder is pulling in Michigan and Walker is pulling in Wisconsin. I wish that our state Democratic party had the balls to tar McKenna with the crazy brush. In order for McKenna to win he has to win in King County, the most liberal part of the state, and even the conservative part of King County, the eastside where Microsoft is located, is still pretty liberal, the fire-breathing "wimmenz are slutz who must have their vay-jay-jay's probed" shit doesn't play well over in Bellevue. So McKenna is engaged in a balancing act, he needs to appear moderate enough to get undecided voters in King County to vote for him while also appealing to the batshit insane conservatives east of the mountains (who are all a bunch of fucking worthless parasites who are dependent upon largesse from the more liberal parts of the state).
I wish that Jay Inslee, the Democratic candidate, had the balls to go after McKenna. Ask McKenna if he would support a "stand your ground" law in Washington. Ask him if he is pro-choice. Ask him if he believes that women should be forced by the government to pay for unnecessary and intrusive medical procedures if they are seeking abortions. Ask him if he believes that women have the right to purchase contraception and then hammer him on his answers. If he answers moderately get the word out to the Republican base that he's wishy-washy and a RINO. If he gives answers that please the Republican base then make sure that every undecided voter knows that he's every bit as batshit insane as Jan Brewer, Rick Scott, Rick Synder, Rick Perry, etc.

Isyaignert April 27, 2012 at 12:25 am

I live in WA too and I'll bet you're right about McKenna being one of "them" – gotta stop that mofo!

Fukui-sanYesOta April 27, 2012 at 2:44 am

Are paragraphs against state law?

Wile E. Quixote April 27, 2012 at 3:05 am

Not as long as they are exactly 14 points in size.

iyamtoo May 1, 2012 at 4:30 pm

HEY! I am an east sider…and I would gladly punch Rob McKenna in the throat if I thought it would do any good. It's HUMILIATING to have Cathy M-R as my rep. I cry. At any rate, I will tell ya that there is such a complex of us-vs-them from east to west…dunno how to fix that. It would be great to see Inslee actually take McKenna on over here. He needs to find the talking point to convince the rural folks, who don't trust anybody. :P

Biff April 26, 2012 at 10:32 pm

Back in the days when I actually still had a jerb, I (and everyone else with a email address) would get an email about every two weeks from General Services stating that the "official" font was now xxx. Changing fonts in Lotus Notes was sometimes challenging, so I never bothered. Maybe this is why I am no longer employed.

Designer_Rants April 27, 2012 at 11:23 am

Lotus Notes. I know exactly what you mean. We had a dedicated person in our offices who we called when we were told about how the New Official Email Signature should look.

Biff April 27, 2012 at 11:41 am

Gah! Eternal joblessness is far preferable, though not quite as financially rewarding.

Man0nTheStreet April 26, 2012 at 10:42 pm

That's the box-him-in strategy that I hope Obama whips Mittbot with, also!

Lascauxcaveman April 27, 2012 at 2:16 am

Yes, this is kind of important, because a lot of Washington voters still think McKenna (lets face it, he looks like a fucking high school math teacher) is just a regular guy and not whatever it is our corp overlords want him to be at any given moment (by which I mean, he's a Republican).

The Democrat, Jay Inslee is a reasonable person, and indeed a progressive. I just hope he and/or his campaign manager grows a set of balls in the next few months and learns to play this game the way it has to be played, for good or ill. Inslee hasn't the charisma of an Obama, and needs to take the gloves off to pull this out.

smokefilledroommate April 26, 2012 at 10:45 pm

…and all Helvetica broke loose.

MilwaukeeKent April 26, 2012 at 10:45 pm

My DMV clerk?
Kidding! I kid because I love!

Tundra Grifter April 27, 2012 at 9:44 am

A disgruntled DMV "Customer" here in NoCal burned an employee's Cadillac.

Person sent to get a new registration – car was towed from the employee parking lot due to expired tags.

Turned out the Caddy belonged to another DMV employee.

Generation[redacted] April 27, 2012 at 12:52 pm

You see what happens, Larry? See what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps, Larry?

Radiotherapy April 26, 2012 at 10:58 pm

The Fontsy have jumped the shark.

SayItWithWookies April 26, 2012 at 10:59 pm

Hey, they at least supplied a reason — granted it was a sucky, made-up bullshit reason, but one doesn't want to go overboard with the whole idea of being accountable to the citizenry.

Negropolis April 26, 2012 at 11:08 pm

What's even worse is that most of the judges on the Court of Appeals are conservative and the Supreme Court is Republican dominated, so I don't have much hope. It's crazy because the politics, here, have been so blatant since 2010. I'm talking complete disregard for Michigan law and tradition.

Man0nTheStreet April 27, 2012 at 12:12 am

But Michigan ReThugs have an older, better body of law and tradition for you – the Old Testament!

Tundra Grifter April 26, 2012 at 11:11 pm

This is the Ole Newt technique – if you don't get what you want (say, you don't get on the ballot in Virginia or elsewhere) then you try to change the rules.

Mumbletypeg April 26, 2012 at 11:11 pm

Ice water on the table at which the board had been sitting was spilled as [Republicans] Timmer and Shinkle tried to calm their critics

The obvious outcome to this whole debacle should at least result in the opportunity to have a new font named Shimmer and/ or Tinkle… What are you lookin' at, sirs… Did I get something wrong in the processing of this information?

littlebigdaddy April 26, 2012 at 11:37 pm

I've had several women complain about the size of my font. In a good way.

imissopus April 26, 2012 at 11:39 pm


Karma_Suture April 27, 2012 at 12:10 am

So do the 203,238 signatures mean anything or are they void because of some asshat with a stylebook?

Man0nTheStreet April 27, 2012 at 1:15 am

All 203,238 need to improve their handwriting, then return and try again…

BarackMyWorld April 27, 2012 at 12:18 am
Doktor StrangeZoom April 27, 2012 at 9:25 am

I see that the lawyers for NBC Universal have scrubbed the interwebz and removed any video of Rosie Perez in the opening credits of Do The Right Thing. The Power has won.

Negropolis April 27, 2012 at 12:32 am

Let's see…pass the emergency manager law and then put it into immediate effect without the required two-thirds vote? Okay.

Pass a blatantly local act for Oakland County to oust it's Democratically-controlled reidistricting board, because you didn't like how they drew the map, and then pass it without the 2/3 majority required for local acts? Okay.

Toss out 200,000 signatures over a technicality for which your side might not even be right in rejecting it?

That's okay, too, I guess.

You know, at least in other teabagger controlled states they own the bullshit they legislate. In Michigan, the rules don't count…until they do.

Angry_Marmot April 27, 2012 at 2:07 am

Seconding that from the west side of the state– this is a stealth version of the clumsiness in Wisconsin.

Negropolis April 27, 2012 at 3:59 am

You know, Rachel Maddow has taken hell here in Michigan from some local bloggers and media types, but I tell you there is nothing that she has reported that hasn't gotten to the main point, and that is that what is happening in Wisconsin is happening in Michigan, but under the guise of a governor who talks a progressive gam, but who signs into tlaw the most regressive bullshit.

Snyder is a fucking joke. One Tough Nerd, my black ass. He can't even stand up to his own party on anything. There has literally been one or two vetoes.

Can you tell that I'm really worked up about this? lol Unlike some of these others states where they claim "how could we have known/this was a bait and switch" this really was a bait-and-switch. When the media was vetting the guy, what little they could find of his political opinions showed the guy to be pro-choice (if even personally pro-life), pro-environment, pro-immigrant, pro-science…and yet he's governed like any other teabagger governor.

Corrugated Palin April 27, 2012 at 4:19 am

As an actual nerd, I have this personal rule that anyone who ran Gateway Computers is prohibited from calling themselves either tough or a nerd. They're like eMachines without the quality. (In fact, I'm pretty sure they owned eMachines.)

Chichikovovich April 27, 2012 at 7:53 am

Everything you say about Snyder is 100% true. I will note, though, that he has one point in his favor, which is that unlike every other Republican politician in Michigan and a troubling number of Democrats (not Andy Dillon, at least, but including Snyder's former opponent Virg Bernero) he supports a second, publicly owned bridge over the Detroit river.

That's become my personal test for corruption in this state: there is absolutely no good reason to oppose the bridge – just dozens of transparently made-up non-reasons. The policy reasons in its favor are overwhelming. Opposing the bridge means you can be bought cheap, and it's horrifying to see how much of the political establishment of the state falls into that category. [Plus, in the case of some of the Republicans, they seem to be opposed to it precisely because it would be good for Detroit, and they like Detroit helpless and politically neutered.]

Negropolis April 27, 2012 at 9:01 am

"Build the dnaged bridge!", indeed. If he can get that done, I won't forgive him, because it's something any governor should just get done, but I'll give him credit for it.

The bridge really is a test. I mean, it just makes so much since given how much the Canadians sweetened the deal. If Republicans can't vote for it, it does show they are bought-and-paid for.

Wile E. Quixote April 27, 2012 at 3:36 am

Where does this end? There's this saying that I've seen on merchandise at gun shows. It goes like this:

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty
– the soap box
– the ballot box
– the jury box
– and the ammo box.

The Republicans have worked their asses off to eliminate the first one by having "free speech" zones at any event a Republican might be attending and shamefully enough some Democratic politicians have done the same.

The ballot box. Yeah, we saw how that went in 2000. The Supremes never should have gotten involved, and then the Supremes said "Hey, guess what, we're going to make it legal for rich people and corporations to buy politicians." Now the Michigan state government has basically said "Hey, fuck you" to 200,000 people for no justifiable reason whatsoever other than a misplaced, hypocritical and unimportant bit of unjustifiable legal pettifoggery (and please, if you think it's justifiable to throw out those 200,000 signatures because the fucking font size wasn't right on the petition header than what other bullshit rules are you willing to let the government impose on your right to free speech? I wonder how conservatives would react to a law that required all government forms to be submitted in both and English and a Spanish translation, and that any form that was not filled out in both English and Spanish would be rejected? I'm kind of thinking that that would piss them off and this should too. The government is basically saying "Hey, guess what, we reserve the right to ignore you for whatever bullshit reason we find that make our lives easier."

The jury box. Yeah, we have Republicans constantly spouting bullshit about tort reform and liability limits. It's amazing the cognitive dissonance Republicans have with regards to the wealthy and powerful facing civil sanctions and the not so wealthy, or powerful, or blah or messican's facing criminal charges. If a corporation or wealthy person is being sued Republicans automatically assume that is a completely unjustified and frivolous lawsuit. If a blah or messican or poor person faces criminal charges it is equally justified that they are guilty and that the system is not punishing them harshly enough. Three-strikes laws and mandatory minimums have reduced the discretion of judges and we have more people in prison than the Chinese do.

So what leaves is the ammo box. Goddamn that's ugly.

Pat_Pending April 27, 2012 at 1:17 am

Petitions should only be submitted using the most badass font of all…


glamourdammerung April 27, 2012 at 1:32 am

And the Republicans are too profoundly proud of their deep ignorance to not realize what doing a jig about how great this foolishness is looks like to decent folk.

TinyDespot April 27, 2012 at 1:38 am

"wee tyrant", eh?

DerrickWildcat April 27, 2012 at 2:16 am

Can our team cheat back?

HistoriCat April 27, 2012 at 8:05 am


barto April 27, 2012 at 2:24 am

What does the fuggin printer know, ennyhoo, probably a friggin union shoppe.

James Michael Curley April 27, 2012 at 5:53 am

You want Typeface? You can't handle Typeface!

DahBoner April 27, 2012 at 8:06 am

They should have used 1939 Mussolini Font

ttommyunger April 27, 2012 at 8:15 am

Font size is easy to regulate…. Caliber? Notsomuch.

jakegittes April 27, 2012 at 8:51 am

Wrong font size. Democracy denied. Pure Michigan.

Jus_Wonderin April 27, 2012 at 9:07 am

Really? I mean, REALLY? No, really?????

Tundra Grifter April 27, 2012 at 9:47 am

Little known fact. Good King George rejected those petitions from the American Colonists requesting they be treated as English subjects because he didn't like their fonts.

That long "S" just drove him nutz – and the American Revolution was the result.

Plus, of course, the Americans were such crappy spellers.

Generation[redacted] April 27, 2012 at 4:23 pm

You mean they were crappy fpellerf.

Tundra Grifter April 27, 2012 at 5:26 pm


teebob2000 April 27, 2012 at 10:01 am

The BEST part of this is that Timmer — one of the Repugs on the commission who voted to throw out the petition — works for the Repug strategy consulting firm THAT BROUGHT THE LAWSUIT TO THROW OUT THE PETITIONS. And he didn't recuse himself.

HOW FUCKING GREAT IS THAT???!!! Hate them as passionately as you want, and nobody hates them more than me (except Michigan residents), but these guys are fucking geniuses.

valthemus April 27, 2012 at 11:16 am

And conservatives think Obama acts like a dictator?

Generation[redacted] April 27, 2012 at 12:58 pm

To think, all this time he could have broken Republican filibusters with a simple font size rule.

Generation[redacted] April 27, 2012 at 12:57 pm

You stoopid libs. Why dont you take yor 13 point font to North Korea where it belongs!

EtchySketchy April 27, 2012 at 1:46 am


comrad_darkness April 27, 2012 at 1:33 pm

There are four bloody bridges between Niagara and Buffalo regions. Crazy there are only two on the other side. I don't count the tunnel. I went through it once and the throughput was so slow I thought time had stopped. (or maybe that was the claustrophobia kicking in . . .)

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