FRIDAY FACTORY FUN  1:38 pm April 20, 2012

Romney Blames Obama For Plant That Closed During Bush Presidency

by Liz Colville

me so sad

Mitt Romney is touring America for some reason, and on Thursday he was in Lorain, Ohio, at a National Gypsum plant that is no longer open, which he LOVES to do despite the fact that he was complicit in the closure of more things than many presidents. During this sadsack appearance the presumptive/uous Republican nominee said the reason that the plant is no longer open is President Obama and his failed somethings. Curiously, the plant actually closed in 2008, when George W. Bush was president. Then, referring to a speech that Obama gave before the financial crisis even rose up from the earth’s bog, Romney said that the President has clearly failed in his inability to, um, predict that that thing would happen, etc.

Well, Talking Points Memo, for one, is pissed!

Romney is well aware that Obama gave that speech just before the economy spun out of control in the fall of 2008 and was hemorrhaging jobs at 750,000 per month when Obama took office. He’s also aware that the economy has added over 3 million jobs under Obama.

As far as whether this is really the time for Romney to ridicule Obama over the economy (it is all he’s got), the jury is still out. Gallup, that ornery thing, shows that the most recently people trust Obama over Romney on the economy by a 50 to 42 percent margin, while the latest CBS/NYTimes poll shows the candidates in a dead heat on most issues.

But are we really expected to believe that National Gypsum would reopen in a bonanza of taxpayer-funded celebrations should Romney be elected? Fiscal freaks like Romney haven’t really wrapped their heads around such things as how many factories have closed, and how many people that affects, not to mention when the things closed, with budget celebrity Pat Toomey, the Republican from PA, claiming just two days ago that there is really only “a small segment of our society” that can’t fend for itself right now, echoing similar statements Romney’s made in the past nine months/forever. Like, maybe 12 or 13 people? Pat is not sure. (The number of people living in poverty is 49.1 million, if he wants to know.)

One funny kick that Romney got on at the end of his Gypsum speech: Obama is dishonest!

One of the things I find most disappointing in this president is his lack of willingness to take responsibility himself for his own failures

Which Romney does, whenever he gets a chance!

He laid out what the standards of success would be, and he has failed to meet them. Why does he continue to attack fellow Americans? To find someone else to blame? If I’m president of the United States, with your help, I will tell the truth, I will live with integrity and provide honor in the White House.

What a funny thing to promise, for too many reasons. Also, with your help. We are busy. [TPM, Huffington Post]

 
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nounverb911 April 20, 2012 at 1:41 pm

Did Bain outsource it to China?

Barb April 20, 2012 at 1:41 pm

" If I’m president of the United States, with your help, I will tell the truth…"

Yes, it may take you a few times to flip flop and get the truth as truthy as it should be though.

If he's telling the truth, I expect his acceptance speech will start out with, "I am a giant douche nozzle…"

Jus_Wonderin April 20, 2012 at 1:43 pm

"I am a giant douche nozzle…" now in Super 3D.

actor212 April 20, 2012 at 1:59 pm

"In a world where douchenozzles were giant, one man stood taller than the others…"

Generation[redacted] April 20, 2012 at 1:50 pm

It really is up to us to help him tell the truth. It ain't easy work, either!

actor212 April 20, 2012 at 1:59 pm

Now, Barb, in fairness, he asks for our help to get him to tell the truth.

So we should email him every time he opens his mouth

Callyson April 20, 2012 at 2:07 pm

It all depends on how you define "truth"…

actor212 April 20, 2012 at 2:14 pm

Oh, you can't HANDLE Mitt's truth!

WorkTheSaxofone April 20, 2012 at 1:41 pm

This "blaming other people for his failures" quack must be the latest Luntz morsel. Look forward to hearing it again and again.

Jus_Wonderin April 20, 2012 at 1:41 pm

Tar baby?

Crank_Tango April 20, 2012 at 1:42 pm

Mittens, you're like a pair of mittens with boogers frozen into the snow-encrusted cuffs, and not enough fingers.

An_Outhouse April 20, 2012 at 1:44 pm

"Curiously, the plant actually closed in 2008, when George W. Bush was president. "

That's how magic our magic negro is. Be afraid, sheeple!

actor212 April 20, 2012 at 2:00 pm

Time travellin' Obama!

Nostrildamus April 20, 2012 at 1:44 pm

Mitt wants to put those unemployed factory workers back to work – closing down other factories. Spread the joy!

FakaktaSouth April 20, 2012 at 1:45 pm

"If I’m president of the United States, with your help, I will tell the truth, I will live with integrity and provide honor in the White House."

But until then, I'm pretty much going to say whatever so that I can get to that point. Just tell me what to say.

GOPCrusher April 20, 2012 at 3:49 pm

Remember the last guy that said he was going to return integrity and honor to the White House?

Good times, indeed!

Doktor StrangeZoom April 20, 2012 at 1:45 pm

You know who else got their start in Lorain Ohio?

nounverb911 April 20, 2012 at 1:47 pm

Besides Toni Morrison?

Doktor StrangeZoom April 20, 2012 at 1:52 pm

And Hitler, of course.

Chichikovovich April 20, 2012 at 1:55 pm

Alsace – Lorraine is in Ohio? I didn't know that. Thanks!

actor212 April 20, 2012 at 2:00 pm

The Sudetenland is in France?

Doktor StrangeZoom April 20, 2012 at 2:01 pm

And Arizona keeps trying to horn in and annex the Sudetenland.

Biff April 20, 2012 at 1:56 pm

Well, I used to operate a crane that was built there, but I doubt if that's where you're going with this.

ChernobylSoup April 20, 2012 at 1:57 pm

Time's Person of the Year, 2006?

actor212 April 20, 2012 at 2:02 pm

Actually, Father Guido Sarducci

George Spelvin April 20, 2012 at 11:24 pm

What, Don Novello AND Toni Morrison? Lorain, I hardly knew ya.

imissopus April 20, 2012 at 2:39 pm

William Howard Taft?

deanbooth April 20, 2012 at 1:46 pm

Romney's favorite sexual position: The Reverse Robin Hood

actor212 April 20, 2012 at 2:02 pm

So he fucks a poor person in the ass?

MrsBiggTime April 20, 2012 at 1:46 pm

Lying is pathological to Mittens and the GOP now. It's not something they can help. They know that if they throw enough of this shit against the wall, some of it's gonna stick.

metamarcisf April 20, 2012 at 1:47 pm

Okay. What do Bristol Palin and Ann Romney have in common?

They both blow a little dope.

actor212 April 20, 2012 at 2:03 pm

HORSE COCK LIBEL!

littlebigdaddy April 20, 2012 at 2:13 pm

Bang!

Fukui-sanYesOta April 20, 2012 at 1:47 pm

It's a bit rich that a man who does nothing but run for President every four years and whose "work" involves "sucking vast amounts of cash into his bank account using a special low-tax vacuum hose" is standing under a banner claiming that Obama doesn't work.

not that Dewey April 20, 2012 at 1:51 pm

Pay no attention to the low-tax vacuum hose behind the curtain!

Toomush_Infer April 20, 2012 at 1:56 pm

"bit rich" – ho, ho, my good man!…

Fukui-sanYesOta April 20, 2012 at 2:03 pm

I normally get yelled at for low-quality punning like that!

SorosBot April 20, 2012 at 1:49 pm

Remember, 2001 through 2008 never occurred; everything bad that's happened recently is Obama's fault, and older bad things are Clinton's.

SexySmurf April 20, 2012 at 1:51 pm

I, for one, will never forgive Obama for agreeing to the Missouri Compromise.

Biff April 20, 2012 at 1:58 pm

I'm sure the Supremes are on it.

MissTaken April 20, 2012 at 1:53 pm

To be fair, Obama was responsible for 9/11, that bastard!

Toomush_Infer April 20, 2012 at 1:57 pm

Nevah Forget!!!!…

actor212 April 20, 2012 at 2:03 pm

I blame Obama for the Sox winning the Series in 2004

George Spelvin April 20, 2012 at 11:26 pm

Well, I'll accept that. I don't give a rat's ass for either the Sox or the Yanks, but that was pretty fucking cool.

GOPCrusher April 20, 2012 at 3:51 pm

The 15 Trillion dollar debt is a result of the 10+ years of the Obama Tax Cuts.

Giveusabob April 20, 2012 at 1:49 pm

Reality, with its known liberal bias, did indeed conspire with Huffpo and TPM to time warp before Obama's inauguration, allowing his presidency to actually begin sometime roughly around 19 March 2003.

unclejeems April 20, 2012 at 5:54 pm

Would that it had, my friend, would that it had.

freakishlywrong April 20, 2012 at 1:50 pm

"I like these gypsum, they're the right height". "I like lying and obfuscating".

actor212 April 20, 2012 at 2:04 pm

I'm actually shocked he didn't mention how the firm outsourced good American jobs to the Gypsum.

Schmannnity April 20, 2012 at 1:51 pm

Confusing. I thought unproductive plants or industries (like GM and Chrysler) were supposed to close so that the invisible hand of the market could solve the problem.

Fukui-sanYesOta April 20, 2012 at 2:09 pm

Tum-te-tum

France: Lafarge has chosen a handful of bids, including those of investment funds Cinven and Bain Capital, for its plaster unit Lafarge Gypsum, from at least 10 different offers. Belgian building material group Etex is also reportedly still in the race, while Advent, Carlyle and TPG have been ruled out.

Other offers were reportedly made by Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co. Eagle Materials Inc., USG Corp and Saudi Arabia's National Gypsum Company. The bids are around Euro900m on average.

Lafarge Gypsum's operating profit jumped 80% on the year in the first quarter to Euro18m, while its sales rose by 9% to Euro375m. The US activity, however, struggled with a loss in 2010. It is not known whether or not the assets will be split up geographically, as had previously been suggested.

Who knew that when the US housing market spectacularly collapsed that there might be a downturn in consumption of shitty gypsum drywall for shoddy remodel jobs?

Baconzgood April 20, 2012 at 1:51 pm

Santorum 2: Pat Toomey.

sullivanst April 20, 2012 at 4:19 pm

This Time It's Fiscal.

coolhandnuke April 20, 2012 at 1:51 pm

An Etch-a-Sketch is composed of 42% gypsum.

MissTaken April 20, 2012 at 1:52 pm

I will live with integrity and provide honor in the White House.

Um, the last time I heard someone talking about restoring dignity and other nonsense in the White House we ended up with W. Just sayin'.

littlebigdaddy April 20, 2012 at 2:15 pm

Idiom much? Is English his second language? Was he brainwashed by the French?

unclejeems April 20, 2012 at 5:58 pm

Ah-hah! The old lavage de cerveau. Wanna bet his favorite comedian is Jerry Lewis?

Baconzgood April 20, 2012 at 1:52 pm

We have to help him to tell the truth?

sullivanst April 20, 2012 at 4:20 pm

Clearly, he can't do it by himself.

Gleem McShineys April 20, 2012 at 4:59 pm

It is easy, you just stop and hose off all the lies running down the back of his campaign.

Barb April 20, 2012 at 1:52 pm

Mitt, tell this truth:
I blame the President for the auto industry resurgence.

I dare ya!

freakishlywrong April 20, 2012 at 2:00 pm

Yep, one of "his failures".

elviouslyqueer April 20, 2012 at 2:42 pm

But Barb, the auto industry would've been so much better off going through a managed bankruptcy than getting all that filthy government lucre!

SayItWithWookies April 20, 2012 at 1:53 pm

You know what I really blame Obama for? That damn Vietnam war.

nounverb911 April 20, 2012 at 1:58 pm

The one that Romney dodged?

Chichikovovich April 20, 2012 at 2:04 pm

No, that was the second Iraq war. And Afghanistan…..

Oh, you mean Mitt Romney. I thought you meant his kids.

Yes, that's right, Mitt dodged Vietnam.

It was in order to recruit the French into the doctrine that blacks are marked by God as inferior, sinful and unworthy of the Mormon priesthood. And that interracial marriage is a sin as I recall.

actor212 April 20, 2012 at 2:17 pm

I blame Obama for giving me hope.

GOPCrusher April 20, 2012 at 3:55 pm

I blame Obama for Dick Cheney still being a free man.

Doktor StrangeZoom April 20, 2012 at 1:53 pm

Representatives of the Roma people have asked that the product be renamed "defraudsum".

actor212 April 20, 2012 at 2:19 pm

How about we compromise. Tell 'em we'll name it Romneysum

not that Dewey April 20, 2012 at 1:53 pm

I'm going to start making a list of things that Obama failed to predict that didn't happen yet (or at all).

1. Sun becomes red giant, envelops Earth.
2. DOW 56,789, 645 in our lifetime
3. Cubs win something, anything.

johnnymeatworth April 20, 2012 at 1:54 pm

The return of the Old White Poop,
Throwing darts in lovers' eyes….

skoalrebel April 20, 2012 at 1:54 pm

Let's stick to the facts, Wonkette! [spit!] The plant was closed. Obama's a Kenyan Mooselimb who hates America. [spit!] So, Obama wanted that plant closed. So, we can blame Obama for the plant's closing. [spit!] Logic, Wonkette, gotta learn some logic!!

George Spelvin April 20, 2012 at 11:28 pm

You know, you're really too good at this.

nounverb911 April 20, 2012 at 1:56 pm

Needs more Colonel Nathan R. Jessup.

Chichikovovich April 20, 2012 at 1:57 pm

I look forward to the speech when Mitt stands in front of a factory shuttered by Bain Capitol during Mitt's tenure (after draining its pension fund for management fees and bonuses) and blames Obama for that.

You know it's coming.

Jukesgrrl April 20, 2012 at 4:19 pm

He just can't help himself.

Blueb4sunrise April 20, 2012 at 1:57 pm

State Control of all factories, COMRADES!!!!!.

Also, Mittens lying sack of shit is a liar, and pile of shit, in a sack.

unclejeems April 20, 2012 at 6:00 pm

No, I really do think he's a lying sack of horse excrement. Excrement. In a sack of skin. Wait, I guess we agree.

actor212 April 20, 2012 at 1:58 pm

In fairness to Mitt, he was riding Ann's horse all of 2008 and may have missed the date.

freakishlywrong April 20, 2012 at 1:59 pm

"blaming other people for his failures" is making me stabby on a fine Friday afternoon.

actor212 April 20, 2012 at 2:18 pm

I've been feeling stabby all day. This makes me feel shooty.

rickmaci April 20, 2012 at 1:59 pm

"If I’m president of the United States, with your help, I will tell the truth, I will live with integrity and provide honor in the White House."

But until then, I'm going to lie my fool ass off to hoodwink you into voting for me, heh, heh, heh. Sad thing is he has a chance of getting away with it. Lame stream media just will not challenge his veracity. The Romoney tactic now is lie faster and more than anyone has a chance to check out so they never catch up with you. Yesterday's lie will be replaced by tomorrow's and both will be old news by day after tomorrow. Billy Flynn style campaign. Razzle dazzle 'em. SMH.

Toomush_Infer April 20, 2012 at 2:00 pm

How did Obama get us into World War I again….? ….it was so long ago, I've forgotten again….Hey! is Romney counting on my memory?….'cause it's already lost its integrity a while back….

Jus_Wonderin April 20, 2012 at 2:00 pm

I am only 52. Have Presidential Campaigns always been filled with bald-faced lies?

nounverb911 April 20, 2012 at 2:07 pm

At least since Dewey defeated Truman.

widestanceromance April 20, 2012 at 2:07 pm

Either filled-with or based-on, yes (lovely to converse with another 52-er!). Only now, none of them are called on their lies.

glamourdammerung April 20, 2012 at 2:09 pm

I think they are setting a record on this one.

Which is surprising with how often McCain and Palin told easily verifiable lies and that "liberal media" somehow "forgot" to ever mention that they were lying.

JustPixelz April 20, 2012 at 2:10 pm

IMHO. Yes. But it was harder for them to spread. Today we have the internet, narrow-casting on cable teevee (aka Fox News), and Citizens United.

actor212 April 20, 2012 at 2:16 pm

Wait. You're 52 and you don't remember Watergate????

Jus_Wonderin April 20, 2012 at 2:19 pm

Can I say…drugs?

actor212 April 20, 2012 at 2:28 pm

Drugs.

See? Not so hard.

proudgrampa April 20, 2012 at 3:37 pm

You young whippersnapper, you!

Don't let them take away your idealism. Keep it safe for future generations.

Biff April 20, 2012 at 2:02 pm

This guy makes me nostalgic for Herb Cain.

johnnyzhivago April 20, 2012 at 2:03 pm

By the way, that Gypsum factory was the perfect color of gray – and it was also a really wonderful height.

Jukesgrrl April 20, 2012 at 4:22 pm

Gypsum is marvelous. It doesn't come from a 7-Eleven, my friend.

MozakiBlocks April 20, 2012 at 2:03 pm

Since Mittens likes to fire people, he can shed a few speech writers and run around for the next 6 months with the following stump speech.

"it's all Obama's fault. Obama is black. It's all Obama's fault. Obama is black".

widestanceromance April 20, 2012 at 2:03 pm

Anyone think he'll be called on this? I'm sure the Sunday Old White Republican Defense League shows will crucify Willard for this.

SaintRond April 20, 2012 at 2:04 pm

Hedge funds/junk bonds hustler. Fucking cocksucker.

Norquist says, "Romney will do what he's told."

Cocksucker.

Beowoof April 20, 2012 at 2:06 pm

More big lies, from a man who has shown is a liar of almost Newt Gingrich proportion. Not really a surprise is it, I mean the republican party has shown how willing they are to lie about everything and they even have an entire television network loaded with people paid handsomely to lie about how good tax breaks for the rich are for you.
Don't wish this fucker's nose would grow when he was lying, it would be bigger than Ron Jeremy's dick.

johnnyzhivago April 20, 2012 at 2:06 pm

Actually, Romney reminds me of a piece of sheetrock.

Dashboard Buddha April 20, 2012 at 2:10 pm

Sheet rock has a better personality that Rmoney…except sheet rock from china, that is.

Jus_Wonderin April 20, 2012 at 2:16 pm

So true. Though rough around the edges, sheetrock is smooth and cool. Romney? It is as if you put out your cupped hands to catch dogpoo in freefall.

mrblifil April 20, 2012 at 2:06 pm

They can't run against Obama so they create an Obama of their liking. Then they get smacked down when in the actual presence of Obama. At this point I just like writing "Obama."

barto April 20, 2012 at 2:07 pm

Yeah, but by 2008 we knew NObama was gonna be prezdint, so there! His fault, neener-neener.

BlueStateLibel April 20, 2012 at 2:08 pm

That's when happens when you ignore those scheduled updates and fixes – your PC/Mitt Rmoney bott does/says stupid things!

Troglodeity April 20, 2012 at 2:08 pm

One of the things I find most disappointing in this president is his lack of willingness to take responsibility himself for his own failures.

Says the man who can't admit he tortured his dog.

Terry April 20, 2012 at 2:09 pm

Oddly enough, National Gypsum is doing well with 17 gypsum board plants across the US. (http://www.nationalgypsum.com/about/locations.htm) Cement board and paper plants, too. A handful of interior finishing plants, whatever those are, as well.

The only answer is that Ohio is such a craptastic place that not even a company that makes wall boards wants to stay there. Seems more like a problem for Ohio's fantastic Republican governor, John Kasich, to work out rather than Hopey.

sullivanst April 20, 2012 at 4:24 pm

(Ted Strickland was still Gov. in 2008; National Gypsum was probably doing quite a lot worse back then since as has been pointed out elsewhere, the housing market falling off a cliff is bad news for manufacturers of products mostly used in new housing and renovations)

Jukesgrrl April 20, 2012 at 4:29 pm

A shocking number of profitable companies went belly-up during the Bush administration. The business model of the 1990s: if it's a nickel more personally profitable for the owners/stockholders to sell out than to continue in business providing employment to the masses and tax dollars to governments, then put out the 4-sale sign.

JustPixelz April 20, 2012 at 2:09 pm

The guy has no job. He can google stuff all day to avoid these mistakes. Maybe he can't afford a good internet connection. Mitt: Press the phone snugly into the rubber cups.

Or he could ask one of his Joe Lunchpail comrades, perhaps while they're standing on the unemployment line.

johnnyzhivago April 20, 2012 at 2:09 pm

Obama: Billions for the auto industry, but not one cent for Gypsum!

Dashboard Buddha April 20, 2012 at 2:12 pm

Repeat a lie often enough…

barto April 20, 2012 at 2:12 pm

"with your help, I will tell the truth,"

Sounds like a call for help. Any therapists out there?

JustPixelz April 20, 2012 at 2:15 pm

Since Mitt is running to be Dubya's third term, he should embrace that plant closing as his own. "It may be sad to see a plant close, but that is how capitalism works. Markets pick winners and losers, not the government. And when a plant closes, it creates opportunities somewhere else*. That is the kind of leadership I brought to Massachusetts**. And that is what I will do for America's middle class."
_______________________________
* Cayman Islands
** #47 in nation for job creation while he was governor

ifthethunderdontgetya April 20, 2012 at 2:21 pm

They're both running for the honor of conducting Reagan's 9th Term:

Reagan: Two Terms of Corporatism
G.H.W. Bush: One
Bill Clinton: Two
G.W. Bush: Two
Obama (aka President Drone Strike): One. So. Far.
~

GOPCrusher April 20, 2012 at 4:02 pm

Yeah. For a man that won't apologize for being born to wealth, and calls it class warfare because he added to his wealth by buying companies up and putting the employees out of work, I would think he would take this opportunity to show this plant being closed as a shining example of what he will bring to America if elected.
It sounds like red meat for the Republiklan Base that he's been trying hard to pander too.

V572 Fehrnstrom April 20, 2012 at 2:17 pm

Got an advanced copy of Romney's plan to make America profitable again. Here's the PowerPoint version:

(1) Borrow $80 trillion from [lender TBD—Note to self: must check w/Goldman Sachs on this]

(2) Sell off profitable units (national parks, Las Vegas, Manhattan, Hollywood, Mormon Tabernacle) to highest bidders [Saudi? Dubai? Must limit sale to oil-producers. Muslims probably won't buy breweries or distilleries except as "silent partners"]

(3) Issue layoff notices to remaining blue-state staff*; activate self-destruct chips in their passports.

(4) Begin national program of tithing for all citizens except those paying more than $40K/year in capital gains taxes at the new 2% cap gains rate.

(5) Issue bonds to repay loans; award bonuses to key staff and certain Bain Capital advisors.

(6) Initiate re-election campaign.
_______________________
*As of inauguration day, the word "citizen" will be replaced by "staff member" or, in the case of Sons of Ham, "associate." The so-called "Bill of Rights" will be revised and retitled "At-will Employment Agreement between [staff member] and US Govco."

ThundercatHo April 20, 2012 at 5:27 pm

This post is a pair of golden balls, well done.

V572 Fehrnstrom April 20, 2012 at 5:56 pm

Thank you sir or madam!

Allmighty_Manos April 20, 2012 at 2:22 pm

Obama started the Iraq War. Mitt Romney ended it. Go ahead, try to refute that.

V572 Fehrnstrom April 20, 2012 at 2:27 pm

National Gypsum makes drywall. Drywall is used in construction of buildings. Nobody's building any buildings. If Romney had been president, what would he have done to make developers start building buildings? Lower taxes, right. Let's see: where are taxes right now? Oh, that's right, the lowest they've been since 1918, and lower than any other industrialized nation.

Who's to blame? Obama!

Jukesgrrl April 20, 2012 at 4:32 pm

You're on a roll today!

V572 Fehrnstrom April 20, 2012 at 4:35 pm

Thanks!

OneYieldRegular April 20, 2012 at 2:28 pm

"Fiscal freaks like Romney haven’t really wrapped their heads around such things as how many factories have closed, and how many people that affects…"

I'm beginning to conclude that Romney doesn't actually know what people are. His "success" has been entirely built on moving around vast sums of money disconnected from any human relevance that money might have. And he seems frighteningly oblivious to any kind of experience an actual human might have. I know the robot meme is tired, but sheesh – even Dick Cheney, by comparison, has a real heart (someone else's, but still…).

Generation[redacted] April 20, 2012 at 2:30 pm

Reminds me of a funny story about the time Obama closed the auto plant in Michigan and laid off all the factory workers.

owhatever April 20, 2012 at 2:43 pm

And I blame Obama for keeping the Bush recession from falling into a full-ass Great Depression.

mavenmaven April 20, 2012 at 2:45 pm

"…To find someone else to blame? If I’m president of the United States, with your help, I will successfully find someone to blame. YOU, lazy, unproductive Americans, and YOU'RE ALL FIRED!"

Biff April 20, 2012 at 3:27 pm

Aside from the obvious fact that nobody is building things, as addressed by V572+++ upthread a bit, here is the quick and dirty reason gypsum plants are closing.

smitallica April 20, 2012 at 3:38 pm

So let me get this straight.
Gypsum plant closes: Bad.
All of Detroit closes: Good.
Did I get that right?

sullivanst April 20, 2012 at 4:15 pm

Ohhhhhhh… so Romney's waiting until after he wins the White House to tell the truth.

Unless, of course, that's a lie too.

Oh hey, it's Friday, that must mean it's time for Part XIV of "Chronicling Mitt's Mendacity" over on Maddowblog.

Jukesgrrl April 20, 2012 at 4:34 pm

The special 4/20 edition, featuring the Alice B. Toklas cocktail.

BZ1 April 20, 2012 at 7:13 pm

don't let the fussy facts get in the way of a good story

ttommyunger April 22, 2012 at 10:14 am

Facts? We don' need no stinkin' facts!

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