Well this is unfortunate. After the Great Mommy War (Redux) of Two-Thousand-And-Twelve, which pitted the Sanctity of Motherhood and America against one lesbo (and Barack Obama), and which was second only to the Great Wonkette Commenter Riots for the year’s most devastating skullfucking and bloodshed, it seems General Romney may have turncoated his own once-firmly held ideals and beliefs! You see, it turns out that he too thinks that stay-at-home-moms have never worked a day in their lives — at least if they are on welfare. Then all of a sudden motherhood is no longer the holiest calling and most important job in the universe! So does that make Ann Romney a welfare queen? No, because her Cadillacs are not apocryphal. Up With Chris, can you roll that ancient, long-forgotten tape from all the way back in January?
“I wanted to increase the work requirement [for people on welfare],” Romney said. “I said, for instance, that even if you have a child two years of age, you need to go to work. And people said, ‘Well that’s heartless,’ and I said ‘No, no, I’m willing to spend more giving daycare to allow those parents to go back to work. It’ll cost the state more providing that daycare, but I want the individuals to have the dignity of work.’”
It’s so weird, it’s almost like the Romney camp will say anything if they think it will give them an advantage, whether they believe it or not! Here, let us watch it together, and then go find a lazy stupid welfare mom to jump for being poor.
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Where is the dignity in work if the NoBama SS wont pay their bills hengh!
The Nobama SS? Nobama's a Nazi!
let's find Ms. Romney a job; I propose local high school janitor. Dignity of work, etc.
School bus driver. Part-time, no benefits.
LUNCH LADY!
"She is known to serve such "exotic" foods as whole beef hearts."
Still pulsating.
Captain Beefheart approves of this message.
Whole Beef Hearts had one of the worst album covers of all time.
Save us Barack. You're our only hope.
Firing line: apple brown betty!
Then grease me up, woman!
Didn't you hear? Obama killed all those jobs because he hatez womyns.
Snark off – seriously, the 92 percent of job loss figure (which only works if you act like the recession started the day Obama takes office) is overwhelmingly women in public sector jobs, since private sector asshats like Mitt never bother hiring women to do anything significant in the first place.
She would be competing with Newt's army of ten-year-olds.
I think with all her vast experience that mothers should start dropping their kids off with Ann during the day. She seems to have this child-rearing thing down and it would give her so much more dignity.
How about cleaning up the poop from her 24 horses WHICH ARE THERAPY FOR HER MS, YOU SICKO LIBS?!
Seriously, 24 horses? That seems a tad high. How many horses do most MS patients require?
0
Since she loves children so much, send her to the daycare mines.
Too easy, she must narftle the Garthok, for our amusement!
I think it's that Mitt is used to being the boss. Do people say, "Boss, what you just said is the opposite of what you told us last month"? Do they say, "Boss, what you just said is not true"? No, they just say, "Yes, Boss, you're right."
In the marketplace there's no such thing as truth, there's just money.
And certain people are expected to just say "yez sir, boss."
I actually did tell a boss that what they said wasn't true. I got fired the next week.
"Even if you have a child two years of age, you need to go to work." But, why, that would imply raising children isn't a… but… the war on women… oh, my head.
But yet, being a "stay-at-home-mom" is work when the kids are in high school or college and domestic servants do all the housework.
Why all this hatred toward "supervisory personnel"?
Because, YOU'RE ALL FIRED, that's why.
And it's the most work of all when your youngest child is 26.
Well, one must supervise the youngest son's personal servants. You don't think he's old enough to supervise on his own, do you?
And every dollar of that daycare will be given to church operated daycare centers, of course.
Even worse, Preznit Barry would just funnel all those dollars to his Black Panther buddies.
We need more children being watched over by Catholic priests, for morality.
Faith-based Initiatives!! My favorite domestic program of all time! Let churches do work the government could/should be doing. They can charge the government a little sumpin/sumpin while piling up the bucks by paying workers less than the government would pay them (+ no insurance!). Then they can then spend their profits proselytizing to get more members and create more people who think this weasely, cheap-ass, unconstitutional idea is a win-win for everyone. Except the taxpayers, as it turns out.
Apparently the "job" that the GOP holds sacred isn't motherhood, it's servicing a rich man. That's why stay-at-home moms are sanctified if they can suck rich cock properly; if they can't, off to the mines with them.
Heidi Fleiss: She ran a very famous 'stay-at-home mom' ring.
Jeb Bartlett Libel!!!
Oh please. Heidi Fleiss's staff worked outside the home, at paying, private-industry jobs. Which might be considered dignified in the GOP paradigm for non-rich women, I suppose, except that they probably used contraception were therefore "sluts."
Was that the one she was running out of her garden shed?
You are speaking of the DC Madam (Deborah Jeane Palfrey). She was convicted of money laundering and racketeering while her star client Diaper Dave Vitter went back to his seat in the U.S. Senate and still claims to be a "family values" man. Ms. Palfrey committed suicide in her mother's garden shed in the face of a potential 55-year prison sentence. Let's all hear it for government support of the working woman.
Thanks. I get all the madams mixed up. I’m sure Olivia Pope will shed further light on the episode.
Hmm …. you know who else, who also knew too much, committed suicide in a garden shed?
When you put it that way, I personally have no problem with this whatsoever.
Once elected, he'll sell off single moms overseas for their assets to the highest bidders, then pocket huge profits in Swiss accounts. Later, he will declare all the subsequent hordes of orphans to be 'America's greatest resource'.
Right before he grinds them up for empanadas.
¡Que ricos!
Om nom nom nom nom.
You're doing an awful lot of nom noming today, Frothy.
And pay 15% tax on the profits.
11%
Liam Neeson will never allow that.
If the Obama campaign does anything other than just replay Romney video on the teevee as its strategy, I will be disappointed.
Yes, but there is so very, very much video of Romney being a complete asshat from which to choose.
I would be happy to choose the tapes for them, gratis.
None of this would have happened if June Cleaver was still alive.
I think you're being a little hard on the beaver…
Sorry, but even June Cleaver went over to the dark side later in life. By 1980, she was fluent in jive.
Cut me some slack, Jack! Chump don' want no help, chump don't GET da' help!
Jive ass dude don't got no brains anyhow! Shiiiiit.
It's a little like speaking Bagger, only it makes more sense.
None of this would have happened if welfare moms wore earrings and pearls and dresses and weren't sluts.
Don't forget sensible shoes.
None of this would have happened if June Cleaver
Romney was against dignity before he was for it.
Dignity is in, dignity is out. Who can explain it?
Welfare moms aren't people my friend.
Mrs.Romney has a full time job being a $$RICH$$ Bitch.It's so hard finding qualified Mexicans to cook,clean,and raise her children since E-verify.
Mexicans cook her children?
And I just thought they were *tan.*
Tacos de gueros….mmmmm!
"My husband's running for President, for Pete's sake!"
She is very good at vetting maids. She's had one long before she ever met Mitt Romney.
Yeah, those Cadillac welfare queen Moms will need day care for their kids since all the jobs the Teabagging bible humping GOP promised are in China.
Mittens speak with forked tongue.
Mississippi Matilda Hard Working Woman Blues
I've been listening to country blues since I was 13 (1963)- it's my favorite so I've listened to a LOT- and I hadn't heard of Mississippi Matilda before. There's a lot out there, amazing.
I think Mother’s Day 2012 will be the ‘mother of all battles’ between the moms of the Red and Blue.
I know the outcome already. Mothers lose.
Does Hallmark make cards for Broke Sluts yet?
Thanx, Rebecca, 40 seconds of viewing McCrazy's dour face in the background and I haven't even had my morning coffee yet. But thanks (not with an "x") for memorializing the Great Wonkette Commenter Riots of 2012 – the closest I've been to real riots since 1968.
Good times, good times.
We laughed, we cried. We're stronger for it.
Will our media overlords demand that Mitt Romney apologize to Ann Romney?
Mitt probably apologizes to Ann every night. "Sorry I got you into this campaign, sweetie."
"Sorry I led you on to believe I was human, too."
"Sorry about your hair. I promise it happens to lots of guys!"
The rules of discourse are different for white s and blahs. Stay at home moms are white and madonnas, the blah version are welfare queens and need "dignity" restored, which is a euphemism for police action.
Silly libs, Mitt wasn't talking about affluent white people back then, so there's no inconsistency.
You know, I'm beginning to suspect that the "stay-at-home mom" thing was just a distraction from what any idiot could tell Rosen was actually talking about, that Ann Romney never worked a day in her life because she's rich, and that this is really just about continuing the GOP's war on the poor and middle class.
Hmmm [scratches beard,
chugs two beers
Honestly, I could not care less how wealthy or not anyone is. I do take issue with how Romney made his fortune. And I doubt most normal folks would disagree with my assessment of how companies like Bain operate in a less than ethical manner with significant negative consequences for the public in general.
First of all, I think you're correct. I don't think Rosen was stupid enough to think stay-at-home moms are shiftless layabouts. She's just stupid enough to be a Dem pundit who would form a soundbite that could be exploited by the right-wing propagandists. I think she was hitting it from the angle of Ann Romney having absolutely no idea what it's like to collect a paycheck, budget household expenses, worry about plebeian shit like that, etc. Not saying raising 5 boys wasn't work, it just wasn't the work it is for 90+% of Americans.
Secondly, Glamourdammerung writes about taking exception to how venture capitalists make their fortunes. Bain Capital, under Romney, was even more contemptible, if this person is to be believed:
Look, you campaign for president with the wife you have, not the wife you wish you had. Unless you're Newt.
Fixed Again
Bravo.
I watched the Wonkette Commenter Riots from my 5th-story window. There was so much commotion, no one seemed to notice my "Get a Job" sign.
Did you see my "Jump! You Skullfuckers!" sign?
It was just like the '67 Newark riots, but with less looting and burning and more Skullfucking.
And drinking and buttsex, of course.
Goes without saying. Not necessarily in that order.
Yes, but as Our Progenitrix noted in The Holy Washingtonienne, buttsechs without the drinking means he doesn't love you.
http://wonkette.com/4162/the-lost-washingtonienne…
Man, I had my draft physical the day the riots started. Folks were gathering all day after the original incident the night before which had something to do with a black guy getting arrested and badly beaten by the police after a traffic infraction. The US of Army put us up in the Robert Trent Hotel (for those of us who had to take a bus to the physical if I remember correctly.). The pay off of sorts was that most guys were getting shipped right off to Ft. Dix if they passed. We were released the next morning and (I at least) got called back to report in October.
I eschew violence. I just took my trucknuts and went home until it was over.
A wise choice. many TruckNutz were severed in that time. It was horrible.
Terrible, horrible, no-good times, they were. Nutz strewn about the barren, war-torn landscape far as the eye could see, and the moans and lamentations of great masses of Wonkeratti clawing in the dark for death to find them before the New Order, did. **shivers**
So Romney's latest talking point has been totally contradicted by something he said only a few months ago? YOU DON'T SAY?!?
(The answers I got when I asked about this the other day were pretty spot-on. Also.)
Bring on the Great Mommy War Blog !12
Probably gonna need a bigger Etch-a-Sketch.
My Magic 8-ball says, Signs Point to Yes.
I use a cootie-catcher for all my policy positions.
I would think Twister would be good for that.
The famous Communist Ronald Reagan was a lot better at this.
The anti Romney political ads will just be a bunch of stuff he said, spliced together. It doesn't even need editing.
"… go find a lazy stupid welfare mom to jump for being poor. "
Duh, Ann RMONEY. Wut? She SAID she didn't think of herself as being wealthy! She only has that little cottage in what, the Hamptons? And she has STRUGGLED!
"Some days I wake up and agonize over whether I feel fancy enough to wear Prada, or if I feel like slumming it and wearing Gucci. You don't know half my troubles. Old Man River~"
Nobody knows
My troubles obscene …
It really royally pisses me off to hear the rich complain about their struggles. They don't *know* from struggle.
It's going to be fun watching this dickhead get his magically-undied ass handed to him this fall.
Psst! Mittens is talking about the *blahs* here.
Ann Romney: Stay at Home Mom
My 100% favorite comment on that Facebook page. Words fail me:
Erin Blomquist There is entirely too much hatered in this post. How likely do you think it is that conservatives are sitting around writing hateful things about Obama? Here's a hint: We aren't!
cf: my earlier analysis on the various characteristic strains of hate that distinguish FoxNation, Breitbart, FreeRepublic from each other. There is a thriving diverse ecosystem of hate among conservatives, unparalleled in the natural world.
That sounds illuminating, care to post it again?
I'll do another one soon, only this time I'll include The Blaze, and maybe American Spectator. Still trying to "find my motivation".
It's kind of like tasting many different kinds of poop, and then reporting on the differences. You don't necessarily want to relive the last one, and you don't want to do it every day.
Not hateful because true. Ultimate defense against libel.
"Hatered": the color of Ms Blomquist's state on a map
Has that person NEVER been on the internet?
It's true, they aren't! I pointed out on a famous racecar driver's fb post about being invited to the White House that many of the comments were rather racist against our President and he might wish to moderate them or maybe even delete the whole post. I got jumped on by people who see absolutely nothing hateful or racist about offering President Obama fried chicken or watermelon, or calling him a monkey, etc. See? As long as they don't see the hate, it doesn't exist! Science!
Nobody can identify what is and isn't racist better than white people.
The token conservative on Saturday's Up with Chris Hayes fit that statement to a T.
Laugh out loud funny!
Don't the Romney's have like seven Downton Abbey's?
Seven or eight. They can't be sure.
Favorite Comment:
Renee Johnson: WHERE IS THE VOMITORIUM?
Ah, the Age-Old Question.
To the left of the chariot elevator and one floor above the dressage horse poop-scooper's sleeping hovel.
Well? Whaddyathink? (Preens)
Masterful, Z. Just masterful.
NTD picks 'em, I embodies 'em. I'm likin' this one. Ann looks SO the StepfordWifey.
Ann looks SO the StepfordWifey.
She doesn't have to try very hard.
I wouldn't not hit it…
Very fine, indeed. Better than I had imagined. I especially like the Barbara Kruger/They Live component. We put on the glasses and see through her faux-feminist bullshit.
I love that she totally made the case for contraceptives/abortion for women with her yawping about the right to choice. Between her and Mittens, it's hard to tell who's blowing their foot off with greater regularity.
Yeppers Mitt, give them the dignity of a shit job and the obligation of paying out more than they make in child care costs. Because you can.
Are you suggesting that there is something disingenuous about one of Mitt Romney's public statements?
Not just Mittens, but most of the "Welfare reformers" on both sides of the aisle who labor under the delusion that putting someone to work for jack shit while paying for child care will somehow result in something positive. One thing that *isn't* mentioned at all is the cost of daycare while people work. It can suck the entire amount of a post taxes check. If the worker in question is in a position that has some opportunity for advancement, maybe it is a good gamble, otherwise it is another expense that poor and lower middle class people pay to subsidize their employers.
Oh, I know. My sister was paying more than her mortgage in daycare for her two kids. About a year ago, Mrs Dewey went on leave of absence — we were basically breaking even between her working part time and paying for day care, and the idea of sending the kid away so that she could spend her time at work trying to pay for sending the kid away just seemed preposterous. When full-day kindergarten starts next year, we can all breathe a sigh of relief.
"It can suck the entire amount of a post taxes check"
Oh you silly, everyone knows that poors don't pay taxes.
One has to love how they play that game, ignoring FICA and state and local taxes (and now they want to kill off EITC so those worthless poors pay their share). One thing the republicans have never been short on is balls, arrogance and simple minded meanness to those less fortunate than they are.
If you noticed while doing your taxes this year. The "child care credit" is on a sliding scale to disappear.
But if the Moms don't work, who will feed the stay-at-home Dads?
My Mom was a bona-fide Working Mom, because, Bills. She raised three kids, somehow, without having a multimillionaire Corporate Raider husband. She would have kicked Ann's ass, and Mitt's, too.
No PLANNED parenthood, no contraception, no abortions, no healthcare, no college for poors, no training programs, no welfare, no food stamps, no decent public education, no social programs whatsoever. State run daycares? Yeah, those exist. Hang on I'll find one. You poors are here to WORK. What? You weren't born with a magical skill set to go with your underpants? Where's your dignity?
My favorite argument with Repubs these days is "You get all that and then you bust the budget picking up the dead from the streets."
We'll just have to have the private sector scoop up all those dead bodies. Big corporations can do it more efficiently and also harvest the bodies for nutrients for foodstuffs.
The dressage horse poop-scooper can do it in his spare time.
This is obviously a foreshadowing of the Good Apple Pie / Bad Apple Pie debate, to come.
Bad Apple Pie
Good Apple Pie
Good Apple Pie link is 'Forbidden'.
Care to describe it?
Really? Works for me. Browser security settings, maybe?
Here's another one: It's the infamous cover art for the 70's band
Mom's Apple Pie Mom's in the kitchen, facing the viewer with an excruciatingly detailed anatomically correct apple pie. The record company made them change it because they had no sense of humor.
Thanks. Yo comprendo Mom's Apple Pie.
Edit / Shit! As I was saying, puts me in mind of these guys:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJJckqLyHHE
Whoops! Recursive linky downthread
I'll get this shit down eventually.
Your patience is appreciated.
Jeez. Someone should keep track of what this man is saying…..Wait, what? Obama's people are on that?
If Obama's people are not on that, they deserve to lose the election.
I can imagine assuming people would forget your past ramblings 50 years ago. Hell, even 20 years ago, it was a lot of work to dig up articles and references from the library stacks. But in the age of the Googles and the inter-tubes, any semi-coherent person can pull up every speech Mitt Romney's done in about 15 seconds. Google is not Mitt Romney's friend, my friends.
Plus, it is so much powerful now to be able to see and hear, rather than simply reading past quotes.
The dull look in their eyes compliments the stoopid in their speech.
Heh,heh!
The Romney Dictionary:
Stay-at-home mom: a white woman whose husband makes enough money so she need not work (but goes to the club every day while the au pair watches her two kids).
Dignity of work: Put down the crack pipe, bitch, get the fuck up off the couch, and sweep floors for minimum wage while your good-for-nothing boyfriend watches your eight kids (an indeterminant number of which may be his).
I'm not going to have the dignity of retirement but I'd at least like the dignity of a living wage.
If the flip-flop fits…..
Mitts must exist.
His campaign people did some work on those remarks, and luckily for them destroyed all the existing videotapes. The original version, which didn't go over well with audiences at all, was:
“I wanted to increase the work requirement [for people on welfare],” Romney said. “I said, for instance, that even if you have a child two years of age, you need to go to work. And people said, ‘Well that’s heartless,’ and I said ‘No, no, I spoke to my advisor on women's economic issues, my loving wife and mother to my five children Ann, and she assured me – now I didn't know this, because I've always trusted her to manage all the affairs of our many estates – Isn't she wonderful, people? [scattered applause and cheers. One shout of "show us your tits!" followed by sounds of a scuffle in the back of the room] Now what Ann told me is that it was easy to find time to be away from the house, for example when she wants to ride her show quality dressage horses for the dozens of hours a week it takes to get the gait just right. The judges are getting more exacting every year. All you need to do is hire an extra nanny – and that's not easy, you have to be a stern and accurate judge of character to find a moral, upstanding person to shape your children. Don't think just because you have a camera in every room of the house, there won't be times that the nanny is unobserved. For example she might take walks with the children in the forest on the estate grounds. But Ann would be willing to make that sacrifice – interview all those people. And if you can't find someone who meets your high standards, pay some overtime to the nannies you already have.
Now I asked Ann: "Don't you think some women might not be able to afford that?" And she said – now this is a tough-minded woman, don't let her gentle manners fool you – "Yes, people make bad choices sometimes. Perhaps they should have waited a few years to put in the car elevator for their underground garage. But actions have consequences, and treating people with dignity requires you to let them face those consequences."
What is this "overtime" of which you speak?
One shout of "show us your tits!" followed by sounds of a scuffle in the back of the room
That was me. Sorry.
I've been hanging around with these Wonkette people lately.
I won't believe it was you until I see signed statements by all your fellow-Wonketeers that it warn't them. I know these guys. Scumma de Terra (see Stiff Upper Lips for more info.
I was the one in the Hawaiian shirt and yellow Ray-Ban shooters glasses waving a marlin spike around and yelling about huge lizards. Happens every time I have to attend public Republican functions.
Carl? Carl Hiaasen, is that YOU?
Oh, fuck, it's probly Hunter Thompson, innit?
BTW, nice face change!
I did that dual avatar thingy once, by mistake and I could never figure out the proper method since. Not that it keeps me up at nights…
NtDewey suggested it. I was gonna be Mitt again, but since he's having Ann do all his talking for him … they both seem to love the taste of shoe leather. Can't get those feet OUT dey moufs.
Wow, does he realize out out of touch he sounds? The biggest financial decisions I had to make was to either buy my oldest a pair of much needed shoes or make sure I had enough diapers for my youngest to last till payday.
Dianne Feinstein once asked, at a hearing on child care requirements for working mothers, why the women in question simply didn't have *nannies* take care of their children. The very rich are not like you and me.
Goddamn it people!! It's not what I said yesterday…It's what I am sayin' today! Christ all mighty your are all too focused on the past!
Being a full time mother is dignified work, though – forget what I said in the principal clause of this sentence, I've moved on to the subordinate clause – welfare mothers have to get the hell out of the house or their character rots like an old banana.
He's running for office, for Pete's sake!
Rmoney taking all sides of a position with video to prove it. I'm shocked. This is so rare.
Mrs. Romney is a two-Cadillac mommy.
Working title of Mitten's new childrens book:
"Ann has two Caddys"
Winzez.
Love it!
Like anyone vying for the GOP presidential nomination knows a damned thing about dignity.
Chris Hayes has this guest, Kerry Picket from the Washington Times. She manages to not drool uncontrollably but that might be due to some silver contraption that's around her neck. Is she some kind of alien or have the Koch's successfully developed a human like robot in addition to Romneybot?
Why in the world did he dignify the Washington Times by letting one of their crazies on? There are legitimate foks on the other side that could be reached for this type of work.
He can't find any other conservative rags stupid enough to pit its half-wits against one of the smartest guys on TV.
She was somethin', wasn't she? She certainly could dominate a conversation, while making less sense than the late Tony Blankley (good thing he didn't live to see what's become of Newt). She also performed the feat of looking like a perfect Aryan specimen while claiming to be half Puerto Rican. Which she seemed to believe gave her permission to say any crazy-ass thing she wanted to say about people of color.
And, as predicted, Mittens just shoved his foot deep into his mouth.
The rule on trying to use wedge issues is you don't press home the attack while exposing your weak flanks (in this case, being a 1%er and race issues.)
“…everyone but an idiot knows that the lower classes must be kept poor, or they will never be industrious.”
—Arthur Young; 1771
Yes. Young also argued for 16 hr. workdays so that workers would be too tired to get 'up to mischief ' in their off-hours, and therefore miss work the following day, because they are essentially children,which, of course, many of them were.
Sorry. That wasn't very hilarious, was it?
So the corollary to that statement is that the rich will never be industrious?
That kinda pokes holes in that whole "job creators" nonsense, doesn't it?
No, no, breeding will tell, my good man!
I, for one, welcome our new Morlock overlords.
It's been said a half-dozen ways, but the issue isn't that Ann Romney is a Stay at Home Mom, it's which home does she stay at? What Romney should propose is a Federal program to match welfare moms with single and divorced Venture Capitalists. That'll work.
When the Fox Mole provided the tape of Romney Howell discussing Ann's horse mounting desires, I wondered, in which state are these horses kept? Do they have a horse elevator too?
I've been wondering that, too. Especially given their claim she is riding dressage as physical therapy for her multiple sclerosis. Doesn't she need physical therapy regularly? Was there room for her horses when she was living in her son's basement? Given she wasn't diagnosed with the disease until 1998, why was she riding from childhood? And couldn't her physical therapy be done on one horse? Why does she have a stable full worth more than a quarter of a mil?
I'd bet good money the horse farm has an agricutural tax write-off status. I understand the woman beat cancer and endures Multiple Sclerosis, real health and true love, money can't guarantee (but in our cobbled-together health care system, money gets you the best care in the world for conditions that would bankrupt the average family). Fine she fills her time with something less harmful than Ginny Thomas' lobbying, Anyway you cut it, a working mom works twice as hard as a stay-at-home mom. How dare anyone call attention to privelege! Class Warfare!
CORRECTION!!
Ann (R)money: A stay-at-one-of-my-dozen-homes mom.
Hey, stay at home moms are OK. They can go back to supervising stay at home kids, like God intended. http://www.shorpy.com/node/1651
“I don’t want to make black people’s lives better by giving them somebody else’s money. I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money.”
Mitt and Dick. Just opposite sides of the same racist RepubliKKKan coin.
You don't need the dignity of work if you have the dignity of being married to a wall street scumbag.
Lying ratfuckers and the lying ratfuckers who fuck them
Terms for Ann Romney, rejected by the Romney Campaign:
* Stay at Homes Mom
* Stay at Mansion Mom
* Stay at 1000 acre horse farm Mom
* Stay at Luxury beachfront house with car elevator Mom
*TwoCads
The most entertaining moment of the video? Watching Romney swallow the bile rushing up his throat as his tries to get through the term "dignity."
The least entertaining moment of the video? Watching a thirty-second commercial to view a forty-three-second clip.
OK, time for MoveOn or the NOW or someone to slice together an ad:
President Obama: "there's no tougher job than being a mom…Anybody who would argue otherwise, I think, probably needs to rethink their statement"
Mark Chelgren: "time to drug test child support recipients"
Michelle Obama: "every mom is a working mom"
Mittens: "even if you have a child two years of age, you need to go to work…I want the individuals to have the dignity of work."
Group of moms (of various ages, ethnic backgrounds etc.) "I work every day for my family's well being. And this November, I'll be voting for those who consistently defend the interests of moms everywhere, not those who don't even offer consistent lip service to our hard work."
Group of kids: "Thanks, Mom!"
You've got a future in storyboarding.
Romney is too unselfaware to see the tsunami that is going to eelope him this fall.
Also, the adorable school-aged children will be holding puppies and kittens. Also.
Of all different colors and breeds — even a poodle with a rhinestone collar.
"…I want the individuals to have the dignity of work.’”
Mitt hasn't had a real job since 2007. He has lost all his dignity.
While we're on the subject … if work imbues a person with valuable dignity, Romney should support a higher tax rate for non-wage income. That would encourage those "investors" to get real jobs … for the tax break.
Unemployed due the depressive Obama economy.
Buying companies on borrowed money, like Mitt Rmoney did, then looting them is hardly a real job in my book. A job should produce some goods or services of value – destroying companies for $$$ like he did doesn't produce anything.
EXACTLY. Hillary Rosen just tagged the wrong Romney who's never worked a day in his life.
And don't tell me how hard it is to be a venture capitalist — the same work as being a Vegas gambler, except you have more chances to tip the odds.
"Why, when I think of those hours we worked until 10:30 p.m. figuring out how to dump those pension obligations, and that night we cut the carry-forward-loss deal! Let alone the derivatives — whoa, we really made that intern sweat all over his spreadsheet! Good times, bro, good times!"
"destroying companies for $$$ like he did doesn't produce anything. "
It produces mansions (with car elevators!) And it creates jobs for the stable boys who attend to your dressage horses.
You just don't understand that sweet, sweet 1890's-style capitalism.
OT, but finally, a story about hookers, if not hookers and blow!
Biff, you must not Wonkette (v.) on Shabbos.
sry, I was trying to have a life between the raindrops this weekend.
Bah. Wake me when the story's about Titties 'N Beer.
"Are there no Workhouses?"
Why yes, yes there are. They're at home and full of kids, you Moms!
Now get back to work. I need a sandwich and a beer and don't forget to look Pretty.
This clip is also interesting because it shows Romney's Mormon background. In a polygamous Mormon home, child-rearing is the responsibility of a subset of the wife- pack. In Mormotopia, child day care is a universal right. (How else can we explain a Republican being "for" government funded health care? It's a communal approach.) Republicans (who have lost touch with America's Puritan history) find this foreign.
Can't feed em? Don't breed them
And yet, everyday another Corporation spins off another subsidiary, hungry for Corpoate Welfare, sucking on the Gum'mint tit and screaming an crying if someone tries to take away their Class Warfare binky…
We need something with electrolytes.
But we need a vertical take off armored personnel carrier with stealth capabilities that can deliver a nuclear payload anywhere on the globe without refueling that can sink submarines and dive to a depth of 10,000 feet. We can't fight some asshole with a chinese make AK-47 in a cave without it!!!!!!1111!!!111!!1111!!111!!!
Psst. Hey, Republitards. Poor people know how to work. There just isn't anywhere for them to do it because you shipped all their jobs to China. Fuck you with a cactus in your peehole.
cactus? anything in the peehole will suffice.
Not just anything … but a pineapple would do.
Rusty Chainsaw Libel!!
As a mom I am more of an expert on this than Romney and his wife. I have done both were I have been home most of the time (worked 20 hours a week for the medical) and worked full time (salary position that required a minimum of 50 hours a week) and either way I felt like I was not doing enough.
When I wasn't making a lot of money we went without for a lot stuff but I got to spend time with my kids. Then when working full time+ we do not go without but I miss out a lot with my kids. Nothing worse than having your 4 year old cry and tell you he wants you to stay home so you snuggle on the couch with him.
What I mean about going without is I am able to replace clothes and shoes faster (3 boys go through a lot) and grocery shop for nutrition not for quantity.
This just makes me sad but also angry. I think the man and his family need to live like the rest of us.
So in Mitt's plan, the states spend more money on daycare (which, of course, they're always willing to shell out for) so that moms on welfare can go to work and add to the labor pool, thus keeping wages lower. If that's alright with Mitt, then he's probably okay with boosting the top tax rate to something a little higher than — what did he pay? fifteen percent, right?
Whaddaya mean, "almost like"?
If EBN were still around, I imagine they would do a terrific mashup of these Romneyisms
I don't care about the very poor…vote for the other guy
I don't care about the very poor…vote for the other guy
if you have a child two years of age, you need to go to work
I don't care about the very poor…vote for the other guy
Get me DJ Steve Porter!
Dewey, that shit is good, but I was more of a Negativeland fan.
BTW,OT, H/T for the Robyn Hitchcock jag you sent me on this weekend. And, oddly, I always paired Pere Ubu with RH.
EBN vs Negativland — you can have both.
You're welcome. I've been on a total Robyn bender for like the last two months; I even did "My Favorite Buildings" at an open mic last week. I'll have to start rebuilding the Pere Ubu collection — I think I have two on vinyl, but I'll need to get something onto the iPod so I can get the necessary repetition without driving the family nuts.
Friggin' Awesome Dewey. That made my weekend. A little like mashing Pere Ubu and Robyn. They were on flip sides of a cassette tape back in '91. Now they are forever wedded in my mind.
And speaking of "thanks for the musical nudge", Arctic Monkeys played Coachella yesterday; I managed to catch some of the live stream. Mrs D caught me listening to them recently, and she said, sneeringly, "yeah, I can see why musicians might like this"
The Monkeys, IMHO, have hit a bit of a sophomore, even junior, slump. But I saw them on SNL in '06 and that performance led us to see them two nights later at the 9:30 club. That first album was a tour de force.
Luckily, Mrs. Radio likes to Rock'n'Roll.
It’s so weird, it’s almost like the Romney camp will say anything if they think it will give them an advantage, whether they believe it or not!
Barack Obama, 2012 S.O.T.U.:
And we’ve put in place new rules to hold Wall Street accountable, so a crisis like that never happens again.
…
And I will not go back to the days when Wall Street was allowed to play by its own set of rules.
Arthur Silber, May 2008:
The Wall Street plan for the Obama-bubble presidency is that of the cleanup crew for the housing bubble: sweep all the corruption and losses, would-be indictments, perp walks and prosecutions under the rug and get on with an unprecedented taxpayer bailout of Wall Street.
(Note: that's actually Silber quoting the The Black Agenda Report, but the link is stale.)
Need I point out that Arthur Silber was right?
Well folks, we better hope that Mitt Obama wins, and not Barack Romney. The fates of J.P. Morgan, Citibank, Bank of America, General Electric, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, ExxonMobile, etc. rest on this election!!11!
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I would rather have someone who pretends to give a shit that someone who is devoid of even pretense. If they take the presidency this round, the senate will surely go with it and they will punish folks for ever having considered electing a near for president. It will make Dubya look like a man of the people.
C'mon, lighten up. Hopey has made mistakes, but you can't seriously think there is no difference between him and Romney.
___-ing, methinkst.
Another absolutely awesome song – but I really was going for "Thela Hun Gingeet" (trans: "Heat of the City") and Belew's voiceover on his run-in with the London Rasta's .
I love your reply and you should post it so I can hang mine off it, etc. etc…
OT I was going to post "Elephant Talk" during one of those interminable debates, but I got caught up. Oh, well, got it bookmarked for future reference…
I totally stand corrected. I guess I've always conflated the two songs into one awesome mind-bending experience. Carry on.
"Hopey has made mistakes."
Show me evidence that President Obama hasn't done exactly what he was paid to do, as illustrated in my links?
I would rather have someone who pretends to give a shit that someone who is devoid of even pretense.
You would rather have someone who will lie to your face? As long as corporatist Democrats can count on that, that's all you're ever going to get.
Goldman Sachs, J.P. Morgan, and company demand money, and immunity. And they get it.
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I think there are a few billy goats about to cross over your bridge, best get back there ASAP
Now, that's funny.
And miss the opportunity to engage in some non-sequitur Obama bashing? Never!
Finely argued, CivicHoliday.
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Troll.
BTW, the hilariously named Black Agenda Report was talking shit about Obama before he even became president, and became a point of reference for PUMAs. Their bullshit is first and foremost a strange personal hate for the man with their policy differences following the hate. If you think you're going to try and use them as a legitimate, liberal critique of the president, you've got another thing coming. What are you going to post next? A critique by Pastor Manning?
Get the hell out of here with this random shit. Firedoglake is a few blocks down, bub.
Crow, it's the other white meat.
Bon appetit, Mitt.
White on the inside, I see what you did there.
I want the individuals to have the dignity of work.
OK, then why did you send everybody's jobs overseas, you rat bastard?
Hey, overseas people need the dignity of work too, my friend.
Breaking news: the sun rises, Mitt Rmoney talks out of both side of his mouth.
You know who else had mommy issues?
Horton and Mayzie?
~
"Norman!?" "NORMAN!!"
Reagan?
Oedipus.
Lizzie Borden?
Lettuce all sing along!
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Adam and Eve?
Anyone who ever spoke to Sigmund Freud?
J. Edger?
Me?
Heather?
She has twice as many as anyone else.
Christina Crawford?
Bambi?
Nero?
In B4 teabaggers whining about how mean I am to Sociopath-Americans.
It's simple: raising rich children is hard, important work. You have to prepare them to go to college and have good careers. Raising poor children is not important, nor is it hard, because you don't need to prepare them to do anything but work for slave wages or fight in wars.
Why is that hard to understand?
Sadly, I think this is really how the cons think. The worst of them would like to do away with public education, and hate affordable higher education. The dumber they can keep the dumb rocks in this country, the easier it is for them to play plutocrat.
All they want from us is their toilets scrubbed and fresh meat to send off to fight for oil fields and "democracy". Cannon fodder is like weeds, easy to raise, easy to harvest and no real loss when it is gone. And yet they consider themselves moral.
BINGO!!!
(What BSL said.)
I'm outraged! How dare he accuse Ann Romney of having no dignity!.
Can't Feed 'Em? Eat 'Em!
- The Law of the Fish
Hypocritt Mitt.
"Dignity of work," meet "arbeit macht frei."
That actually chokes me up.
Oh, Rebecca, if words were swords, you would have cut this bullshit to threads long ago. Unfortunately, blood, brand loyalties, and shouldabees are stronger than compassion, so status will remain quo.
All you need is Love. Motherly Love.
It's just the thing for you.
Suzy?
Suzy Creamcheese?
"Uh, Suzy? We just got into town and we're all concerned with your Development."
"Ferrrget it!!"
"UUUHHHHHHHHHH……."
Get it now….
"And thus began the insidious, slippery slope to the Mommy Blog. They saw it not, and therefore did not cry out."
No Worries. There's an App for that.
So in all this cephalod mania, I bet you have a thing for extinct cephalopods, too.
AmmoniteAmirite?Yes! Extinct, not Extinct, Either/Ordovician, or Both!
Tee hee. You said "insidious, slippery slope."
Oh Oh. here is this.
You flop with the flip you have not the flopped flip you will flip with tomorrow or in a few minutes.
Can I apply for a disability pension because of my Great Wonkette Commenter Riots of 2012 service connected injuries?
Get in line pal.
If it's anything to do with BALLS you'll be a shoe-in.
I did not mention what my injury was but it is connected to my P!!!!!
We Have Ways of knowing these kinds of things around here. You'll see.
I'm pretty sure I still have PTSD.
I do too. It's so bad I have to drink heavily and listen to extremely loud, bizarre music every Friday night, just to calm down.
The fact that I always do this every Friday night in no way diminishes the severity of the stress I'm under.
Before the riots I hardly ever skullfucked anything. The word wasn't even really part of my vocabulary. Now its all I think about. I feel like I have lost my innocence.
How do women skullfuck things?
That's OCD – Obsessive Commentator Disorder. You need to get help immediately.
One of my friends let this condition go and he was discovered in a High School Bio lab, stark naked, with a human skull. Mrs. Johnson's 6th grade AP class was appalled yet strangely interested. There's cellphone video up on YouTube.
Don't let this happen to you.
Physical Threat Skullfucking Disorder? Is there still time to get this into the DSM-V?
No. But DSM-V.5 is in beta.
Hell, I got banned and subsequently waterboarded with words. I want an award in addition to my pension. lol
I hereby award you with the purple wonkette, for being injured in the line of duty. Thank you for your service.
The Purple Wonkette.
And the Order of Kenlaynin, for meritorious services to the Wonkette State and Society.
If it's like every other business in the US of A today, Wonkette is going to be a- pinchin' that pension before long here.
Yeah, they'll probably switch me over to a 401(k), which will then be subsequently gambled off under the reign of President W. Mittens Romney. I, for one, don't welcome our new, Romnian overlods.
If only conservatives had been listening, Romney would have said what he really meant: "I want to make those minorities do more menial work… I don't care if they've got pickaninnies hanging around… stick 'em in some minimally supervised kiddie warehouse, that'll be cheap. We need those coloreds and wetbacks scrubbing toilets!"
So, you will pay more to the people watching her children than she will make at her job or on welfare. I dunno Mittens, that kind of math don't add up, unless you own a daycare.
The healthcare version of that has certainly worked nicely for Gov. Rick Scott.
Sorry, Mitt Romney, you and your midget friend can't fool me. You allow your wife to count 'child raising' as her one and only career while welfare recipients HAVE TO go to work, whether program or not. Yeah sure. Okay.
Mommy Wars. Commenter Riots. Troll Assaults. This is a Dangerous Place.
She held a blog in her hand…this was a dangerous place
I repeat myself when under stress
I repeat myself when under stress
I repeat myself when under stress
I said, "I'm nervous as hell from this Elephant Talk
I thought she was going to Ban me for sure
They ganged up on me like that"
BROUHAHA
Brouahaha? Ha, Ha, Ha!
BALDERDASH! BALLYHOO!
Jeebus KeeRist, guys, get a soundproof room!
Behold the Missing Link!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tyVn2ZDJ-Y
Why there's a young Adrian with hair! And the awesomely named Busta "Cherry" Jones on bass! (Of course, Fripp played on the studio version, although this doesn't sound like his kind of thing at all.)
Man, that was great! Whatta band. I recognized Adrian right away, his face hasn't changed but his hair sure did!
Bookmarked for Future Reference!
Bagels and cream cheese, bagels and cream cheese
Bagels and cream cheese, bagels and cream cheese
Bagels and cream cheese, bagels and cream cheese
Bagels and cream cheese, bagels and cream cheese
Vha-a-t a re-gret! Ba-a-gels and cre-e-am cheese!
Vha-a-t a rema-a-ke! Eat in the ku-gel…stre-e-ets….!
Greetings from my dorm room in 1981.
In 1981, there was No Language in my Lungs (I was only 13)
Hold the line!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J0yppewrvg
Eeeeeeeeexeeeleeent.
If you'll excuse me, I'll be Bicycling To Afghanistan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQQpFAZLhCc
Her kisses never get better
they just get wetter and wetter
I curse the day that I met her
but she is loaded
Is this from before "English Settlement"? I haven't listened to any XTC prior to that album, but a lot after.
After "Drums and Wires" and before "English Settlement". They had lost Barry Andrews, who went on to form Shriekback (and later played with League of Gentlemen) the album before, and had now fully integrated Dave Gregory into the sound/songwriting, but still retained all that delicious early pop-punk angst. Check out "Travels in Nihilon" from the same album.
Oh, wait. Did you mean "She is Loaded", or "No Language in Our Lungs"?
"She is Loaded" is Giles, Giles, and Fripp, 1967, pre-King Crimson.
What in the wide, wide world of sports is going on around here? I go away (for a much needed break from my stay-at-home-mom gig) for 5 days, 5 days! and I come back and all hell has broken loose. Ricky quits, regulars are gone, people have changed their names, people are off "cleansing" and who knows what else! Good thing for the cephalopods or I'd have to break out the xanax wine spritzers. WTF?
5 days — cleansing, were you?
Nope. Fun, frolic, friends and french food.
The Wizard of Oops
"Pay no attention to the contradictory prior statements behind the curtain!"
Reason #18 why Mitt is completely out of touch with 95% of the American public.
Mitt "The human flapjack" Romney's campaign is based on unabashed lies, frequent flip-flops, and blatant pandering that he believes will help him to get nominated … strategically planning to hit his reset button during the general election.
However, Romney's team appears to unaware of YouTube –the online repository of instantly accessible video clips, providing evidence of the previous policy positions of Mitt v.1, Mitt v.2, Mitt v.3, etc.
I think pathetic old men selling every principle they ever had in order to buy the votes of the stupidest and meanest among us is super undignified.
You're damn right, adorable doggy in a hoodie.
Yeah, I've always thought your doggy in a hoodie is cute as hell nobestial.
Dammitt! I'm not adorable, I'm badass!
Show Us Your
TitsFists!Your picture is an adorable dog with a hat. EVERYONE LOVES THAT!
You, personally, can be a vicious person who will skullfuck every Romanian girl who comes your way and use them for your own end, and that's cool too.
THE DOG IS SO CUTE!
Wait a minute there little doggie, I'm pretty sure the majority of Wonketteers are pathetic old men! You're not going to buy the votes of the stupidest and meanest among us by talking like that!
Way off topic, but hopefully interesting to many, is this website that keeps track of Space Weather, including sunspot activity/ aurora predictions. There is a new active sunspot just coming around toward us, and a great pic. http://spaceweather.com/
Space weather is the shit. I did a poster session at a radio science conference a couple years back. It was totally boring — impedance this, noise figure that, linearity the other thing. Immediately after I finished, I spent the next three days totally glued to the space weather talks. It was the coolest thing I had ever seen.
Man, if you ever figure out how to transmit with the VLA, please send a message to the Galactic Community stating that we only keep these Republicans around as Jesters and, really, there's no way we would allow then to run anything.
It's just too embarrassing to think that Advanced Civilizations are watching Mitt Romney, et al.
Thanks.
Since we're throwing tunes around today, ElPinche's Breeders link made me think of this space weather snowstorm. It was a Kim Deal.
When I saw "Breeders", I immediately assumed that you were going to link to Divine Hammer, but that's so much better.
I saw the Pixies with Love and Rockets on my birthday in 1987. I should have died then.
And you're freakin' me out a little with your emphasis– Mrs D's name is Kim. But not nearly as much as when you were talking about my ex-housemates, The Poster Children.
Now your freaking me out Dewey. If You See Kay!!1! Rules. It was one of the few songs we covered in our heyday. That and Second Fiddle by an even more obscure outfit called Ditch Croaker. Next thing you know you'll be telling me that Slint influenced the Pixies.
Pixies are teh shit.
Frank Black was young whippersnapper there! Man, I had such a crush on Deal back then….her and Tanya Donelly.
When the planet hit the sun, I saw the face of Allison
Thanks, Barrelhse! Most Excellent pic.
You turned me on to this site during the last CME and It's cool for sure. I like the Auroral videos especially. Before, I always used the NOAA/NWS site (still do). Still searching for Auroral displays in the Mid-Atlantic!
By the by, we like O/T Science-y posts 'round here. Keep it up, pleese!
The welfare queens also don't have to manage the household staff — that's real work, people!
As a breeder guided by an inner voice, this is a real shocker.
http://www.rotten.com/library/language/the-finger…
That is a Shocker
GBV…the coolest uncles in the motherfucking universe.
Damn straight!
Uncle/high school teacher, if I'm not mistaken.
Robert Pollard's aunt and mother apparently live in Albuquerque (or at least they did, 10 years ago). I have a concert poster signed by the two of them —
"That's my son! -Robert's Mom"
"That's my nephew! – Robert's Aunt"
A sentiment often stated by my teabagger brother. Fuck him.
If Mittens were a real Moarman, he would have multiple wives having multiple jobs.
fail, again
failed leadership, failed weinership
But Mitt, Ann says staying home with the kids IS WORK !
Speaking of the opposite of stiff uptight awkward idiots, I expect to see a nice commentary on Chillary's night of booze debauchery in Cartagena bright and early!!! Back to my over-rummed Blue Hawaiian.
ZOMG, bebida de una cerveza!!1! You can bet John Bolton would never bring such shame on the prestigious office of Secretary of State and insult to American Exceptionalism.
Between NOBAMA and his beer summits and Hillz' booze diplomacy , our Country should be Ashamed. God frowns upon our Sad nation today.
Hillary Clinton is a feminazi. She has been on the government dole, well, since Bob Dole. She has never had to make it in the private sector. No, not like these heroins of American Motherhood who have struggled against all odds — the tyranny of SEC regulations and the choking of the Free Markets!!1! Imagine the burden these Matrons of Capitalist Enterprise must face.
And don't even get me started on Moochelle Obama!
Texts from Hillary:
God, I am so fucked up.
I remember during the primaries her campaign was legendary for boozing. lol Drinking on the ground from the Pennsylvania to Puerto Rico, drinking on the plane, the booze flowed like a Wonkeratti late-night.
Oh, that was good, Editrix. That was real gud.
Srsly we need to take good care of Rebecca. She's a real keeper.
I'm utterly biased.
SHE'S FUCKING GREAT.
Let's keep her.
Using tax dollars to pay for daycare? That's Massachusetts socialism!
It's one of the pillars of Marxism!!1!
Begun, the Mommey Wars have.
Well, that's not completely true. They began a whole helluva many years ago.
30 'Little Debbie' points for that!
America demands to know
OT: On "Inequality", I thought this was really interesting reading. http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/atlarge/201…
And I always appreciate it when an author presents a solution to a problem, even when vague (but not when ignorantly inept)… But I don't really get this "solution" in the last paragraph. Any thoughts?
Traditionally, class figured less in politics in America than in most other Western countries, supposedly because the United States, though more economically unequal, and rougher in tone, was more socially equal, more diverse, more democratic, and better at giving ordinary people the opportunity to rise.
AHAHAHAHAA HAHHAHAHAHA HAHAHAAHAH
PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THAT SHIT?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
By every measure the fucking UK has higher social mobility than the US. By The UN measure, even fucking France, a blatantly socialist country, has better social mobility.
In Murray’s view, trying to shift resources away from the élite wouldn’t do much good, because (as Murray and Richard Herrnstein argued, in far more detail, in “The Bell Curve”) the élite are genetically endowed with higher intelligence: as long as the United States is a meritocratic society, and as long as these people keep meeting at selective colleges, marrying, and improving their breeding stock, they’ll keep doing better than everybody else.
I've argued this for at least a decade. No no, not the principle, but the concept that the rich families in the US are the arbiters of the US. This is the utter antithesis of the principles which people like Jefferson thought for.
Sure, many descendants of crackers in the south are mouth-breathing fuckwits. Sure, many farming types in the heartland are salt-of-the-earth uncomplicated people. This is true. However, education is key. Anyway.
They are rich, rooted primarily in global banking and business rather than in any particular communities or set of social values, and ideologically committed to unimpeded markets above all else.
Bullshit. Well, mostly bullshit. Business is great, but community is incredibly important, and this crap about being "ideologically committed to unimpeded markets" is just that. Crap.
There's a little bit next which I'll talk about and you might not like, but bear with me
Globalization, in its present form, strengthens a cadre of very large businesses that Rothkopf calls “supercitizens,” and diminishes government, which is becoming, in his nice phrase, “too small to succeed.” The result is that “there has been a decoupling of the interests of supercitizens and those of the ordinary people around them, between those who represent the views of people who must necessarily live within borders and those for whom borders no longer have meaning, between those who require jobs and capital flows and those who view people, villages, cities, and states as economic options, part of a constantly changing calculus in which efficiencies and profits rule.”
I'm a student of capital flow these days. Have to be. Born in the UK, now live in the US. Want to live in the US, because where I live is goddamn fucking beautiful and I love it – East Bay. Fuck me there are some great-ass parks here I can visit every weekend.
"Supercitizen"? Fuck you. I can't even fucking vote. If I could (and I should be able to soon) I'm voting Democratic all the way. Why? Because I know that most people get it in the fucking arse in this country. More so than any other country I know. This is supposed to be a classless society, but that's just a fucking weak joke.
" those who require jobs and capital flows and those who view people, villages, cities, and states as economic options, part of a constantly changing calculus in which efficiencies and profits rule"
That, to me, is bullshit. I want to live somewhere with people who help out. Who talk to each other. Free Republic claims that it's only conservatives who do that. HA. I lived in Oakland, and sure as shit that happens there as well.
aside: I've read Judt's book about postwar Europe and it's stunning. Recommend it.
OK This article stands on its own. Read it.
James Madison, the patron saint of American political pluralism, warned in Federalist No. 10 against “the violence of faction,” but he was just as worried about small groups being oppressed by large ones as he was by the prospect that the American government would not attend to the good of the whole nation.
Presented without comment.
And D_R, that last paragraph is a beautiful summary of what I've been whinging about for years. The "Left" can be a ragtag bunch of single-issue foolios. Sometimes righteous, sometimes "oh for fuck's sake" hippie. We all see the Republican wham-wham-wham of whatever the latest Luntz talking point is, and they're awesome at it.
None of this is ultimately good for America. The right is excellent at its promotion of the tiny percentage of people who make a fuckload of money. The left are somewhat successful at their help for the disenfranchised and poor.
I was just hoping for a little more specific instruction in that last paragraph… My imagination fails me, so I want to be told which specific groups should form a coalition, and how the gameplan should be played out… I know that's too much to ask, just saying.
…the élite are genetically endowed with higher intelligence" …are you kidding me? Charles Murray is so full of shit, it's been coming out of his ears for decades. Maybe they've been "endowed" with anti-social personality disorder, that's about it.
The unholy alliance between clueless red-state voters and America's plutocrats has to be broken before any real progress can be made. Sadly, the fact that the OWS protestors are scruffy, disorganized, and largely inarticulate (and the fact that Obama is black) makes it difficult for Democrats to drive in what should be an easy wedge. (How do you reach the numbskulls who prefer to vote for the white guy who promises to make the trains run on time?)
Too many of the 99% have yet to realize that the game's been rigged against them for the last 20 years. The younger ones, with crappy jobs, no future, and no chance of putting their kids through college, will be the first to wise up, and those are the people Obama has to target.
"How do you reach the numbskulls who prefer to vote for the white guy who promises to make the trains run on time?"
You ignore them and going after their women and kids. And you hold onto and re-enfranchise all the browns who aren't under the illusion that they're white. (That's why we have a President Obama in the first place, as doom-and-gloom libtards seem to forget.) That, or find another Bill Clinton. Good luck with that.
I'm not even sure that it's that they don't realize it yet. Between the tea party and OWS as a reaction the the financial crisis, I'd guess a majority of this country now realizes that the game is rigged. It's just that one of them can't get beyond Obama.
Somewhere out there, lives a Republitard operative who wishes he hadn't started that whole "flip-flop" thing on John Kerry.
Once again, I refuse to believe there is any way Obama can lose to these people.
Just…Gah!!!!
Keep the Hopey faith. He can't lose to Romney. He can't.
He does, and I'm going back to England. Because there's free enterprise and there's super-horseshit-o-matic crazy president. I want the sane one.
There's free enterprise, and then there's the Pod People…
"It’ll cost the state more… "
Teabagger heads are exploding, right? Right?
*crickets*
All they care about is that everyone else is toiling away their miserable lives like they are. They're incapable of understanding that a mom on assistance is likely working very hard, and they won't be on cash assistance for relatively long (as it's the law to end benefits eventually). Facts have no place in their rage fantasies.
"it’s almost like the Romney camp will say anything if they think it will give them an advantage, whether they believe it or not!" That's the Republican platform isn't it?
Bear in mind, these are the same people who seemed absolutely stunned when they got their asses handed to them in 2010 … even though most of us outside the Beltway could see that tsunami bearing down on us for most of the year.
Barry may not be the best, but he is l000000 per cent above his opposition.
"Some of my friends are against working mothers, and some are for them. I don't care what anyone says, I'm standing by my friends!"
"Some of my best friends employ working mothers. Preferably as 'independent contractors', or part-time employees, or off the books entirely … or better yet, in China."
They are the job creators, my friend, and if we just reduce their confiscatory 15% tax rate, they will bring these wonderful fruits of capitalism to even more women.
"It’s so weird, it’s almost like the Romney camp will say anything if they think it will give them an advantage, whether they believe it or not! "
I trust that "almost" is snark. Saying anything that will give him an advantage is Romney's MO.
WELFARE QUEENS!
buying lobster and orange soda on food stamps
Young Bucks eating T Bones.
Prison?
The Naughty Room?
Soul crushing cubicles?
From here?
Initech?
Hey! How you?
Frothy? That you? I went somewhere for a second and came back to comment, and the icon and name had changed.
Buying Cadillacs and smoking crack with food stamps stolen from dignified stay-at-home white women.
I'm partial to grape pop with my lobster. It brings out the savory taste of the lobster.
Just how the crumble cookies, sugar. The Violet Crumble, that is.
Just call me Ann, honey. I have STRUGGLED!
I am sorry, but "B" is the answer we were looking for, but Hiaasen is a great guess!
Fortunately, this is not a bizarre "Truth or Consequences" Japanese game show…
Quick! Take the ether way from him!
Heh. Mitt's Charley McCarthy. Or is Mitt Ann's Charley McCarthy? I lose track of these things.
No Worries, I do that too – and Done!
I haven't listened to Discipline in years and forgot just a bit just how outstanding it really is.
Thy playing this in public Really separates people out and everyone seems to have an opinion about the music.
PICS OR GTFO
You guys need to think outside the box!
That has never been more appropriate.
Thumbs Up for Honesty.
I've even performed Indiscipline as a cover, live. ( and 21st Century Schizoid Man, too) I should have caught myself. But that was many nights of sleep ago.
We had a band whose motto was "Jazz With a Bullhorn", which was exactly as it sounds. We were Medeski, Martin, and Wood meets Butthole Surfers.
Yeah, I do, but every time I think I'm outside they pull me back in!
That's really impressive. I haven't met a whole lot of people who have the chops to attempt covering those songs.
This "Jazz with a Bullhorn" sounds right up my alley. I have just that kind of sense of humor. And musical appreciation.
True, dat.
You been watching Vermilion Pleasure Nights again?
Hunter, could you have a word with Satan about the speed bumps they put in the road in front of your beloved Woody Creek Tavern? What's the fun of pulling into a parking space there at less than 65 mph?
No, but if you're a fan then it's something I'll definitely look into.
Wow, that one went way back to my Lurking days! Thanks!
It's a little odd to think that AMC writes for the Guardian now and who knows there "Washingtonienne" is…
Huh. Is THAT how the buttsechs came to these parts?
Assuming you mean "where," I do. She is happily married and a mother of two small children. You know, either a hardworking paragon or a lazy layabout.
Obligatory "Sweet Cheeks" Shout-Out! (For AMC, that is.)
I did mean "where", "happily married" is good to hear and Re: Paragon or layabout: can't we be both?
I like that, thanks! Wasn't familiar with them.
I had that stupid Original Vadgepie Mom's Apple Pie album in my hands but didn't buy it because they looked like just another bloated 70's group and the record store wanted 3X the price of a new album for it. It's probably worth lots and lots more now but I'm sure the music's worth the same.
The unopened album had a huge American Flag sticker on the shrink wrap so you couldn't see the Offending Orifice.
Patience is a Virtue. I fuck these up all the time and have to go back to edit. one space, " or > left out and the whole thing crashes out into mangled code.
I keep a notepad file of code handy to cut & paste, because I can't remember shit like this a lot of the time. It helps.
It’s so weird, it’s almost like the Romney camp will say anything if they think it will give them an advantage, whether they believe it or not!
You're not very bright, are you, imissopus. Maybe you should look up "non-sequitur" in the dictionary. Or get someone to help you?
In fact, I recall that we had this same discussion about two years ago. In the interim, everything I said has come to pass.
And you? You might as well just be typing, "POOP!".
You'd appear more intelligent.
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"The unopened album had a huge American Flag sticker on the shrink wrap so you couldn't see the Offending Orifice."
Very commendable. I'm certain that many young potential buyers were protected from evil pussy-thoughts, thereby.
yeah, I don't think it fooled anyone except for Blue-Hairs and they wouldn't be in those kind of record shops anyway. The record company made them reprint the cover with bricks where the pie-vagina was. Not the same and I'm sure sales plummeted right afterwards.
…mmmm…pie- vagina…
I just heard (and saw) Homer Simpson as I read that.
Heh.
Then my work here is finished.
Yawn. How old are you, anyway? Oh well, if I must:
non sequitur – a statement (as a response) that does not follow logically from or is not clearly related to anything previously said
Since the entire post was about Mitt Romney and his rhetoric, and more specifically on the topic of working moms, my argument is that pivoting to slamming Obama over his lack of toughness with the banks is a non sequitur. Admittedly not the most precise word to use, but I think it got the point across to most of the folks here. More generally, it's typical of your M.O. to not miss an excuse to try and steer a thread around to bashing the president no matter what the hell else we might be talking about. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has noticed this, here or at other sites.
Did we have a conversation about this two years ago? How the hell should I remember? I don't spend any time patting myself on the back for "winning" arguments with anonymous people on the internet. By what yardstick does one measure in order to believe he has won such an argument? Did Ken Layne award points or something at the time? I'm sure at least some of whatever the hell you said two years ago has come to pass, just as I'm sure you have ignored anything that has come to pass that would counter your points. What a boring fucking life you must lead.
Whatever. It's Sunday night and I have better things to do then fling shit at some bitter little person.
Poopyhead, also too.
Besides, I can't believe anyone is still seriously arguing, nearly twelve years after the court-ordered start of the Cowboy Caligula era, that it doesn't matter whether public offices are held by wussy Democrats or brazenly evil Rethuglicans.
Keep fucking that Naderite/Paulbearer chicken if it makes you feel morally superior. Just don't expect anyone to be impressed.
I was beginning to think you had been carried off by dingos.
Pop that cherry pie down your throat.
Let's put it this way: Until I watched VPN, I had no idea how … WEIRD … Japanese TV shows could be.
More than my life's worth to think about, even. (Pokes the CREature with a LOOOOOONG stick)
Methinks you got the wrong McCarthy. Maybe Ann is Roy Cohn in drag.
With all the Lamingtons and TimTams and Violet Crumble in the sib's home, it'd have to be a regular PACK of dingos, mate. I don't eat junk food at home because of a natural tendency to avoirdupois, but my sister (who is as skinny as a rail-bird) seems to *live* on that shit, plus fruit. I was cooking in self-defense before I even hit the ground.
(Hugs the pdog fondly) Ya missed me, ya furry old coot, I can tell.
Absolutely. I think Jessica manages that just fine.
And, btw, she is good people.
Well, how do you think I felt? I had just returned from a week-long Owls/Extemporanus "walk around the block" and there you were talking about Hum and the Poster Children. WORLDS ARE COLLIDING
For the benefit of anyone who may have missed your earlier link:
http://vimeo.com/4600451
♥
One of the top five greatest moments in a Radio's life was sitting behind a kit and voxing the dynamics of that interlude of genius — with all out abandon. I fucking lived for snapping the snare off the downbeat in the pre-chorus. And a "walk around the block" with you three characters must have been like pretty much opening the high-hat and ♥♥♥♥♥
It sounds more glamorous than it was, really. We just stopped reading Wonkette for a week, as a "cleansing" activity.
Why get a shoeshine, when you're made of dirt?
Jealous : (
My drums have been "in storage" (at a friend's house) since Little Suzie was born. She starts kindergarten in the fall, and I intend to get them back.
And don't get me wrong about Mrs D — she used to rock 'n' roll all night, and party every day. Then it was every other day. Now she's lucky if she can find once a week in which to get funky. She was tending bar at a club where I was playing; that's how we met. 19 years ago. So, we're fine; she just doesn't want to hear my ridiculous music really loud all the time anymore.
Probably a good idea as Negropolis and I took a mortar shell in our camp. Survival of the wittiest.
W3schools man. W3schools.
Just submit the post with the url, then go back and edit.
Jessica Cutler! Just remembered her name, independently this AM, for no reason.
I always thought she was "good People" I hope she writes more, though – she's got a wicked sense of humor.
Cowboy Caligula. That's pretty good.
Yeah, and I'm sure that President Gore would have filled the Federal Government with know-nothing apparatchniks, wreckers, thieves and scoundrels as well as appointing Roberts and Alito. Hey and I'm positive the Gore folks would have kept their eyes on the real issue of Ballistic Missile Defense rather than the miniscule and obscure Terrorist threat in 2001. Alsotoo.
So, yeah, no difference.
Yes, from the misty days of Sen. Mike DeWine and his lovely Staff Ass, Ms. Cutler.
IT'S ALLLLLLL TALK! BACKTALK!!
I remember buying the double album "The Name Of This Band Is Talking Heads" when it came out; I was a junior in college. Half of it documented the band's early shows, and the other half was the first "big band" (before Stop Making Sense) with Adrian and Busta Jones and 2 different backup singers. The album liner was a big scrapbook of photos. Sitting in my Mediocre Midwestern University In The Cornfields dorm, I had a serious case of East Coast Art School Bohemia Envy. They'd even roped in Bernie Worrell, keyboard hero of my high school P-Funk albums!
Oops, replied to the wrong comment.
Oh be nice, he's the only Voter Suppression Troll who bothers to come around anymore!
Never fuck a President with no eyebrows!
Bougie!! Grape Kool-Aid too low-class for you?!
Nice work with the dancing goal posts and strawman thrashing, gentlemen.
imissopus: "Just because I've been filling these boards for years with subsequently discredited Obama cheerleading doesn't mean anybody should remember it."
Lettucebracy: "I'm going to change the subject, because I can't' defend Obama's bankster blowjobs, either."
C_R_Eature: "Great idea, lettuce! Let's talk about Al Gore, instead."
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Meh, SAD (Still A Dick).
Nice work with the dancing goal posts and strawman thrashing, gentlemen.
I'm sure that I am avoiding the subject, deliberately. That is no doubt due to the fact that I'm unable to face the terrible truths that you, and only you among all of us, can see clearly and as a whole.
I'll go now, to peruse your research materials and get back to you.
As for me, I'm just wondering how our self-appointed authority on mobile goalposts was in fact not postulating an equivalence with the bit about "Mitt Obama" and "Barack Romney".
In any case, what we clearly have here is a troll and therefore a poopyhead. Whether a firebagger, a massively embittered PUMA, or a hired prick, the outcome is the same.
I had to do an image search on that guy. He has no eyebrows! I don’t know who he is but it seems he has been around and in a lot of stuff.
I plan to spend my evening combing through all three thousand or so posts I have ever left here, picking out all in which I defended Obama for anything, and then cross-checking those against all of thunder's posts in which he said the exact opposite, and then research which one of us was eventually proven right and who was proven wrong. If only I had known someone was keeping score! I could have at least gotten started yesterday, and would have, if only I had not wasted time defending myself against someone calling me "not too bright." Apparently doing that was only moving the goalposts. And then I spent today, you know, living my life, so that was more hours wasted.
I go now to begin my research, so that I may ascend to the lofty heights of intellect upon which only this bitter, small person dwells, and see the truth, and weep with joy that the scales have fallen from my eyes.
The longest journey begins with a single step.
Admitting that we have a problem is the first step in the long ascent we must take to finally be able to engage at the rarefied intellectual plateau that discourse with our friend demands of us.
I shall begin my journey now. Best of luck with yours and, Inshallah, I will see you, safe and sound, on the other side.
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