At least it's a fucking ethosSay what you want about National Socialism, at least it’s a fucking ethos. It’s also — have you heard the newest Frank Luntzian reframing? — a civil rights group. Fox affiliate WOFL in Florida had a piece on the National Socialist Party coming to Sanford to patrol the town and make sure no white folks got Reginald Dennyed, and they accidentally (?) called the Nazis a “civil rights group.” They accidentally called them a “civil rights group” in the headline (which has since been changed) and about 27 times throughout the package, and nowhere in the two-minute piece did they mention that the National Socialist Party is more commonly known as “neo-Nazis.” Nor did they find anyone in the entire state of Florida who might take issue with neo-Nazis just cold comin’ down and hangin’ out and bein’ neo-Nazis. In Florida! That is one way to listen to your base made up exclusively of the kinds of people who are defending John Derbyshire in rightwing website comments sections! And that is one way to maybe not be very good journalists? We feel like maybe there is some journalistic standard and/or practice that requires not just blindly accepting whatever people say about themselves and presenting it without question. We are not sure, maybe someone could ask Jay Rosen.

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  • Faux News: Fair and balanced for the Nazees.

    Yeah, I went Goodwin… you wanna fight about it?

    • Q: How does Rupert Murdoch tie his shoes?
      A: With little Nazis.

      • Will you be here all week? I won't forget to tip my waitress.

    • SorosBot

      I don't know if the Godwin rules apply when you're dealing with actual neo-Nazis, and their media defenders.

      • sullivanst

        Calling a spade a spade isn't an analogy, so, ironically, the case of actual neo-Nazis might be the only instance in which Godwin's Law fails.

    • extreme_left

      I think when Nazis are 'patrolling' Godwin becomes void.

  • BaldarTFlagass

    I think they meant to say "civil rights denial group."

    • Lascauxcaveman

      Defending our civil rights to intimidate, shoot and lynch certain undesirable elements of the populace. (In self-defense, that is).

  • Rosie_Scenario

    Liberal Fascism! Jonah "The Whale" Goldberg was there first. Loved when Jon Stewart eviscerated him on The Daily Show. Figuratively, alas.

    • JohnnyQuick

      If 'twas done literally, the viscera would envelop our dear Jon.

    • More (deserved) evisceration:

    • ttommyunger

      What do you expect to drop from the cunt of Lucianne Goldberg, a normal human?

  • I'm sure they meant "civil whites" but spellcheck got in the way

    Damn OS Lion…

    • YasserArraFeck

      There's nothing "civil" about these whites

      • For FOX??!?!?!

        • Swampgas_Man

          Their whites are whiter, but their colored things are brighter.

  • You go girl? WTF?

  • Dudleydidwrong

    Hey, Adolf! Protect my civil rights, will ya?
    Thanks. I knew you would.
    By the way, where's Herman Goehring? FL needs a "protect civil rights air force." Get on that, Faux Nudes, please?

  • freakishlywrong

    So now the ignorant hillbillies LIKE Soshalizm?

    • iburl

      Only the Nazi flavor.

      • GOPCrusher

        So how that's how they came to equate Obama with Hitler and Stalin?

    • Lascauxcaveman

      They think socialism is when you get together for and beer and brats during the pregame show. And who doesn't love that?

  • GunToting[Redacted]

    Isn't Florida full of Teh Jooz? I'm having a hard time reconciling this.

    • see song below…

    • Florida is a really fucked up place.

      • sewollef

        Quoting another site that wants to, ahem, Fuck The South, here's a paragraph that's worth every syllable:

        "And the next time Florida gets hit by a hurricane you can come crying to us if you want to, but you're the ones who built on a fucking swamp. "Let the Spanish keep it, it’s a shithole," we said, but you had to have your fucking orange juice."


    • BerkeleyBear

      You are thinking of sunny Southern Florida, not South Georgia.

  • BaldarTFlagass

    "Detroit Nazis."
    "I hate Detroit Nazis."

  • And also, it's National BOCIALIST party.

    I'm just not so sure about these "boncentration bamps" they propose.

    • bagofmice

      They have brocentration camps all over. They're called fraternities.

    • redarmyzombie

      That's INTER-national Bocialist, pal!

  • ♪♫ I hear you kristallnachtin', but you can't come in
    I hear you kristallnachtin', go back where you've been ♫♪

    • Steverino247

      Come back in the next Reich
      And try it again!

      • Lascauxcaveman

        Give up on those losers; they'll never get it reich.

  • Your reporter:

    Jennifer Bisram holds a bachelor’s degree in Media Studies and Journalism & Communications and is a member of the National Association of Black Journalists, the South Asian Journalists Association, the International Radio and Television Society Foundation, Inc. and the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists.

    Some wise, older journalist of color needs to have "The Talk" with this stupid bitch.

    • Along those lines:

      Starting her career off in print, Jennifer penned pieces at some of the city’s largest newspapers like NY Newsday and the NY Amsterdam News – while still in college.

      That's true in the same way that a four story house is one of the city's largest buildings. I mean, it's taller than anything less than four stories, right?

      • SkinnyNerd

        How does one go from working at NY Amsterdam News to calling the National Socialists a civil rights group? Some sort of mind control device or narcotic has to be involved, right?

      • James Michael Curley

        I can remember that walking up Third Ave anywhere above 50th one of the many 'Honor Boxes" always had The Amsterdam News. That was before Abe Beame put a 'clean up New York' hex on the free newspaper boxes. Abe Beame is dead and the boxes are back

    • BaldarTFlagass

      Apparently, those groups to which she belongs don't have very diligent vetting procedures.

    • James Michael Curley

      Way too sad is that Gil Noble died last Friday. He was the man to do the job.
      Here is his NYTimes obit.

      “My response to those who complained that I didn’t present the other side of the story was that this show was the other side of the story,” he said in 1982.

      Mike Wallace, Gil Noble gone, Rush Limbaugh and Dildo Wallace live. The whole world needs an Etch-A-Sketch.

      • Jus_Wonderin

        If you shake it more than once, you are playing with it. The Etchy thing, that is.

      • Lascauxcaveman

        In re: Mike Wallace & Son: they say it skips a generation.

    • sharethegrief

      Her expression gave her away. Look, prostitution is hard work. You have to get screwed by the one who pays you and Fox is one big STD.

    • Guppy

      City University of New York’s Queens College

      Not much of a history department, I'm guessing.

      They must be so proud of their alumnus.

    • Wile E. Quixote

      What do you mean? She's working at a Fox affiliate, which means that she's avoiding events likely to draw a lot of blacks, and working for Fox means that she'll be scrutinizing the character of black politicians and she thinks that the National Socialists are a civil rights organization. Seems to me like someone has had The Talk with her and she's really taken it to heart.

    • Wile E. Quixote

      Let's see, she works at a Fox affiliate, which means she's avoiding large concentrations of blah people. It's also guaranteed, because she's working for Fox, that she's going to scrutinize any blah politicians more closely than she would a white politician and she thinks that the Detroit Nazis are a civil rights group. Seems to me like she's heard The Talk and taken it right to heart.

  • freakishlywrong

    Oh, and happy zombie Jebus day. bitches I was sick with everything, fucking damn everything, even pinkeye. Yes. Pinkeye.

    • Zombie Jebus Boxing Day?

      • not that Dewey

        Boxing Jesus?

        Oh, wait. Bad art was one post back.

      • Jesus was more a Caporeira type.

    • Oblios_Cap

      Obviously Jebus hates your ass.

  • BaldarTFlagass

    BTW, alt-text win.

  • Ooh. Civil Rights! Now, that's something everyone can enjoy!

  • Nothing bad happens in Sanford when the cracker citizenry is emboldened by the assumption of fake "patrol" duties.

    • I can forsee a real problem here: the Nazis are down there, which means the next folks down there will be the "new" Balck Panthers (all three of them), which means then Curtis Sliwa will bring the Guardian Angels down and next thing you know, Armageddon

      • not that Dewey

        I read somewhere (Breitbart comments?) that Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn were huge fans of Charles Manson and his Helter Skelter race war plan, so race wars are actually a leftist plot.

        • GOPCrusher

          Well, that kind of thought process has hit full speed since Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton showed up to weigh in on the whole situation.
          Wing nuts are convinced that Trayvon Martin got himself shot in the hopes of provoking a race war.

      • James Michael Curley

        I can barely take Curtis Sliwa seriously having first met him when he was a manager of a McDonalds near the intersection of Fordham and Jerome. My brother managed a Gino's Hamburgers (Gino Marchetti, Baltimore Colts) right on the corner. So I met him several times when my brother would go in to check the prices. This was during the Son of Sam days up in the Riverside/Albany Crest area. Sliwa was obsessed with The Magnificent Seven, yet had no clue about Kurosawa. Don't want to dis the guy too much but his earliest plans which became the Guardian Angels struck me as a cross between Yul Brenner and Ray Kroc.

  • Schmannnity

    Fox later referred to The Final Solution as Urban Renewal.

    • Also, the Ryan Tax Plan.


    • sewollef

      Comment of the day. No, make that the week.

  • BaldarTFlagass

    It's really too bad this group of people weren't patrolling Sanford FL six weeks ago, perhaps they could have defended Trayvon Martin's civil rights from that Zimmerman guy.

    • Doktor StrangeZoom

      You mean they could have protected Zimmerman from that terrifying Skittles-wielding thug (who had been suspended from school, let's not forget) in a hoodie.

    • Terry

      They, too, might have felt threatened by Skittles and an iced tea.

    • Shoot the wetback or the nigger kid? It's the Nazi's Sophie's Choice.

    • GOPCrusher

      Zimmerman? Isn't that Jewish?

  • We feel like maybe there is some journalistic standard and/or practice..

    Fox News is not journalism–right wing megaphone that panders to the most base of the base maybe.

    • HippieEsq

      Aka the RNC.

  • metamarcisf

    Derbyshire's warning about staying away from large gatherings of black people made me think twice about going to Augusta National this weekend.

    • Avoided the caddy shack did you?

      • BerkeleyBear

        Not during Masters Week. Wouldn't do to have them hanging about bothering the quality (since all the pros and most of the amateurs bring their own caddies). But there are those 6 gentlemen of color who have been hanging out since young Eldrick won here in 1997 – highly suspicious, and to be avoided at all costs.

        • Lascauxcaveman

          I thought they were on the wait staff. I tipped them accordingly.

  • StarsUponThars

    " … several Sanford citizens have called on them fearing their safety." I fear their safety, too.

    • I'm sure the Nazis will be fine

  • tessiee

    I'm just glad we're done with Kinkade.

  • YasserArraFeck

    You mean lynchin' parties ain't a civil right? Who knew?

  • FakaktaSouth

    Good thing Frank Luntz is a schlubby fatass who looks slow – he's gonna be my human shield (human shill?) in the race war vs the NeighborhoodKlan. Worst thing about old Frank is that I don't think HE believes the Orwellian-fake phrases he comes up with. He is every dick bag conservacock "smart guy" who sat in the back of the classroom at my school, plotting mindfucking ways to become powerful in spite of his lack of physical skill and constant torment on the playground.

  • Baconzgood

    Germany Nov. 10 1938

    Last night brave civil rights activists helped move and protect the jews of Germany and Austria from retribution by the liberals, after the assination of Ernst vom Rath.

    Fox News.

    • NellCote71

      Poland, September 1939
      After an unnecessary uprising by the brutish Polish regime, chiefly composed of farm thugs, the brave German civil rights group, the National Socialist Party, peacefully occupied the country with sit-ins, unarmed marches and gospel hymns. The resulting GeneralPlan Ost served as landmark civil rights legislation that freed several million Poles of their lives.

  • People from Skokie, Illinois who retired to Florida must feel much safer now that the National Socialists are patrolling the streets.

    • GOPCrusher

      I hate Illinois Nazis.

  • OkieDokieDog

    Westboro Baptists should be there also to heap some extra hate on the ghay blahs

    btw, the two facebookin' chuckleheads that shot up the people on the North side of T-Town got their bail set at $9 mil. I'm glad they got caught before they killed anyone else.

    • BaldarTFlagass

      Just saw their mug shots. Those two have "winner" written all over them!!!

  • Limeylizzie

    May I take this opportunity to apologise for that immigrant from the UK, no not me, John Derbyshire, what an entitled, racist , opinionated cunt. OT Michelle is looking awesome for the Easter Egg Roll.

    • Before deporting John, perhaps Mr. Derbyshire could be feted with an old traditional British Navy keelhauling.

      • Lascauxcaveman

        Why not? I'm sure he's enjoyed his fill of rum, sodomy and the lash already.

      • Biff

        I'm sure there's a spot for him at fox, anyway.

    • Could he even get away with that shit in England today, or did he have to publish it here to find an audience?

      • sullivanst

        Might not necessarily be a good idea to try to publish racist waffle in Britain. The law over there recently took a pretty dim view of some knucklehead soccer fan who took to Twitter, using racial epithets to dance on the grave (prematurely, it turned out) of an African soccer player who had a heart attack on the field.

        This British expat also apologizes for Derbyshire's fuckheadedness.

      • sewollef

        As another ex-pat, I too would like to apologise for the twat Derbyshire's mouth.

        It might also be pointed out that his piece in Riki Tiki Tavi's 'magazine' would in all likelihood have fallen foul of the UK's 'Incitement to Racial Hatred law.

        In other words, he couldn't have said that in the UK as he'd have been arrested. Angrily, these interwebs create a frustrating grey area when it comes to laws such as this.

      • Limeylizzie

        From the Guardian, he could be prosecuted in the UK, under the Incitement to Racial Hatred statute.

  • Terry

    The local Fox station's web site is now called them Neo-Nazis and pointing out that they're from Detroit.

    • BaldarTFlagass

      Did they put a (D) after the name of their group in the chyron?

      • Terry

        Didn't have to. The word Detroit is enough of a code word as it is. I would be you a nickle that those brain surgeons aren't actually FROM the Motor City itself, but rather some of the lovely areas of rural Michigan that are blessed with natural beauty and curses with stone cold idiocy amongst a large percentage of their human population.

        • BerkeleyBear

          You could just go with the collar cities – plenty of white flight crackers there, and no beauty of any kind.

        • GOPCrusher

          Ah. Grand Rapids.

        • Negropolis

          They have a P.O. box in Detroit, and I'm sure they do that just to piss people off and make it look as if they are living amongst the "enemy." Truth be told, I bet you these fuckers are down in Hutaree Country (Lenawee County) or Klan Kountry (Livingston County).

          It's always been odd to me that some of the largest white hate groups in the country, or at least the sheer amount of them, encircle Metro Detroit.

    • Because violent hate-mongering racists might give Sanford a bad name…

  • Not_So_Much

    Florida: 'Murka's sad, droopy penis.

    • YasserArraFeck

      Key West – 'Merkah's money shot

      • Oblios_Cap

        The Keys are really not the same as the rest of the state. It's much better once you get past the tip of the dinghus.

        • YasserArraFeck

          I'm not saying the money shot's a bad thing – "Better out than in, that's what I always say"

    • Rotundo_

      I've always thought of it as America's Simmering Pot O' Crazy: The Keys are indeed an interesting place, but great googly moogly those people north of those parts are seriously crazy and violent methbillies. The heat and humidity must cook they tiny little brains unless they are continuously in a bar drinking cold rum based beverages.

  • SkinnyNerd

    This is one of my issues with political correctness. That groups like this can easily co-opt phrases and words, and let us face it, most people just take things at face value. The fact that the reporter is black gives credence to my point. I know she throws in a "they say they are" but for all intents and purposes she has effectively labeled them a civil rights group.

    Groups like this are opportunists, and will call themselves whatever they need to, to get ahead. It is far better for us to have an honest discussion invalidating their points, than forcing them to use the terms that are acceptable to society, thus changing the discussion from what is wrong with their beliefs to is this really a civil rights group or not? Most people that watched that piece on Fox went to sleep thinking that there is a "civil rights group" that is willing to defend their beliefs. I really do wish that my peers on my side of the political spectrum would realize how harmful censorship is no matter how hurtful certain words can be.

    • What are you smoking, so early in the morning??

    • Doktor StrangeZoom

      Um… seems to me more a matter of lazy reporting, deliberate "re-branding" (the nazis called themselves a "white civil rights group") and false equivalence fallacy (hey, they're one "side" of a debate, right?) than of "political correctness." I don't even know what the hell you think you mean by the term.

    • James Michael Curley

      Even Buckley who first coined the concept of Politically Correct as a derogatory term applied to those who were urging civility and courtesy in public discourse did not claim it was censorship. Some of his lamer wannabes have hoisted this petard.

      It is still valid today: "The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man in falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic." Schenck v. United States, 249 US 47 (1919).

      • sullivanst

        (except that Schenck was superceded by Brandenburg, wherein the "imminent lawless action" test forbade the outlawing of speech whose banning Schenk's "clear and present danger" test would have permitted – thus raising doubt as to whether the fire example from the earlier case's obiter dicta is still applicable)

        • James Michael Curley

          Yes and Brandenberg involved Nazis also, too.

    • JohnyEdge

      No snark!

      If I wanted articulate, humorless analysis of the issue, then I'd subscribe to the New York Times, wouldn't I?

  • Terry

    Shined enough light on his passing?

  • YasserArraFeck

    "When fascism comes to America, it'll be in a yellow Caddie with a "Neighborhood Watch" flag fluttering on the fender"

  • Maybe it's just me but it seems it would be hard to miss the symbolism of a banner with a big SWASTIKA over the U.S. flag.

  • tessiee

    You know who ELSE liked National Socialism?

    • BaldarTFlagass

      Prince Harry of England?

    • nounverb911

      Ayn Rand?

    • nedbeaumontjr

      National Velvet Fist in an Iron Glove?

      • Lascauxcaveman

        Careful, there. You'll set off Limey Lizzie's fantasy reverie involving young Elizabeth Taylor in an SS uniform…

    • BaldarTFlagass

      George Lincoln Rockwell?

    • Doktor StrangeZoom

      Every teabagger who thinks that the Nazis were socialists (It's right in the name!!!!)

    • Unity Mitford?

    • Henry Ford?

    • metamarcisf

      Major Hochstetter?

    • GOPCrusher

      Prescott Bush?

  • Blendergoathead

    You know who *else* had "Civil Rights Groups" marching through their streets protecting white folks? Or is this one just too damned obvious/ironic to mention at all?

    • Guppy

      Haley Barbour?

    • GOPCrusher

      George Wallace?

  • JustPixelz

    …more commonly known as “neo-Nazis.”

    Pretty sure they're just plain NAZIs. And I am proudly on their do not resuscitate list.

  • revmatty

    How do the Foxites not flip out at a group with 'socialist' RIGHT IN THEIR NAME walking around with weapons?

    • reliefsinn

      They've been confused since someone told them that North Korea has "Democratic" in their name.

  • florida libel, surveyor's marks, &c.

  • not that Dewey

    Breitbart: People who died in Nazi concentration camps are the real Nazis!

  • SorosBot

    And according to Fox, Prussian Blue is just like Bob Dylan, singing protest songs in favor of the civil rights movement.

    • Steverino247

      If I had a hammer
      I'd hammer in the morning
      I'd hammer out gold teeth
      All over this Reich

  • Dashboard Buddha

    Between these douchebags and the two more in OK, it seems like someone wants to crank up a full scale race war or something.

    • Doktor StrangeZoom

      14 words! 88! Rahowa!

      • ChuckieJesus

        Yeah, they've been banging that drum ever since I was a little punk kid and we were told to watch out for some of the skins, but not the others. It was fucking unnerving, they kinda all looked like to me.

        But, yeah. Certain Ofay fantasies look like Mad Max.

  • Nazis are people too, my friends. Now Fox is going to say is that these are (National) SOCIALIST groups….

    • iburl

      That's because they believe in the redistribution of wealth (from dead non-whites to whites)

  • An_Outhouse

    So Hitler was just like Martin Luther King, right? Is Godwin's Law no longer in force or has it been amended to ostracize those that use King comparisons?

    • James Michael Curley

      It is closing in on being Godwin's Axiom.

  • Barrelhse

    Socialists? Like Obama, right?

  • HippieEsq

    This ridiculousness will only make my Matzah-induced constipation worse. Where is the hero Shep Smith on this one????

    • ElPinche

      He's probably lubing up and getting ready for a visit to Roger Aisle's office. That's the price you pay for against the FoxNews grain.

      • HippieEsq

        your avatar….troubling. i submit.

  • Goonemeritus

    How could the addition of a dozen or so armed civilians patrolling an unfamiliar neighborhood fail to advance the cause of peace?

    • pdiddycornchips

      The eventual shootout at Del Boca Vista will make the Ok Corral look like a Friday Night Sissy Fight.

  • Millennial Malaise

    Being a token is hard, so I feel bad for Jennifer Bisram having to serve as a dusky hued voice box so that Fox can cover their ass and claim "See, we're not racists! We even hired a black person who agrees with us!"

  • Of course they are a civil rights group. They just didn't clarify whether they were for or against them.

  • ElPinche

    What's next? FoxNews siting David Duke as the Martin Luther King of anglo civil rights? ..probably.

  • You'd think the big, black swastikas on the armband might give people a clue.

  • babyanng


  • WiscDad

    In about a week they'll be calling in air strikes and napalm drops in Sanford.

  • owhatever

    So will the Black Panther Party also now be called a civil rights group by the Foxholes?
    The journalism of today makes me shudder about the journalism of tomorrow.

    • An_Outhouse

      Ha, ha. Faux isn't stupid, everyone knows the difference between a civil rights group and a group of racist thugs.

  • Redhead

    I am just SHOCKED. *

    *That Fox News correctly identified the state this was taking place in.

  • GOPCrusher

    Why haven't the Sanford Police Dept. made an arrest in the obvious hate crime of Trayvon Martin stealing George Zimmerman's bullet?

  • lulzmonger

    Smooth trick: falsely associate Nazis with the socialists they despise, denigrate socialists & soft-pedal fascism … all with the same scoop of bullshit. If Hitler & Streicher were alive they could probably sue the living hell out of Goldberg & the rest of his ilk for stealing their false-advertising con game.

    I expect to hear their original full name being used in reference to Nazis more & more as the benefits of this precious little semantic ratfuck sink in with the corporatist jet-set. National Socialist German Worker's Party? A bunch with a name like that must wear Che teeshirts, ride Vespas, suck on monster bongloads & play hackeysack all day, amirite?

    "I may not be with all of you for the Drang Nach Osten, but that doesn't matter any more. Volks, I have been to the crematorium-top … & I have seen the Lebensraum!"

    Yeah, this shit is why FOX is to journalism what ants are to a picnic.

  • Again I must consider my "Crawl under my bed and don't come out until sanity is back in fashion" strategy.

  • snoopyfan2010

    What exactly are these people planning to do that doesn't include, LOOKING for trouble and then blaming it on the tense situation? I have a feeling someone is going to get to use the stand your ground law again as a cover for instigating a fight. I hope people ignore them like a bunch of tired ghosts.

    • pdiddycornchips

      I'm guessing they are more welcome in Sanford than they are in Detroit. Detroit much pose certain demographic challenges for racist Neo-Nazi's.

      • snoopyfan2010

        You're talking about Kid Rock , right?

        • Negropolis

          More like Eminem. Rock is a Republican.

          • snoopyfan2010

            N, that was my first attempt at sarcasm.

  • LiberalMantra

    Sounds like a new programming trend for Fox is on the horizon. Coming soon: Have You Hugged Your Fuhrer Today and Authoritarian Idol.

  • Antispandex

    " Fox affiliate WOFL…"
    What do you expect from people who can't spell WOLF, when they have a chance at a REALLY cool call sign? But, now that I think of it, Whoa Florida, is probably more appropriate. Also, just having the swastikas and the cool uniforms is not what makes you a Nazi. Apparently, you have to listen to Fox News now-a-days for first rate tips on who to hate.

  • NellCote71

    So is the craziness moving from Arizona to Florida or is the latter just a Kardashian flash in the pan to the Paris Hilton steady state?

  • flamingpdog

    YAAAY, one of my tips finally gets used. But the prior administration used to give credit, sniff, sniff.

  • extreme_left

    I dunno…I bet those guys are good at scrubbing poop decks.

  • Negropolis

    Not gonna watch. Nope.

  • ttommyunger

    Yup, every once in a while we get a peek under the hood at Fox, and this is not intended as an auto reference, pilgrims.

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