GOVERNMENT OUT OF OUR MEDICARE ALSO TOO  1:56 pm March 28, 2012

Human Monopoly Logo Mitt Romney Explainers Jay Leno: Uninsured Poors Should Die Already (VIDEO!)

by Rebecca Schoenkopf

Just cold bein' a dickMonocled toff Mitt Romney went on the Jay Leno Ha-Ha and Teevee Newz Hour to explain some cold hard FACTS to The Chin: You cannot wait until you are ill to buy insurance, gentles, even if there is no human way to afford it on your sad loser unemployment check! It just doesn’t work that way, good fellow! And if you work in a brake shop, and are uninsurable because you work in brake dust all day, the owners of the shop have already bought you insurance so just what is your problem, kind sir! (It is cute that Mitt Romney thinks that just because you work full-time, your job gives you “benefits.”) Oh, superrich “bubble.” How you delight us. Big cheers for “waivers for all 50 states from Obamacare” and big cheers for “covering pre-existing conditions through Obamacare” from Jay Leno’s feckless and easily led audience, plus Mitt Romney just cold bein’ a dick, after the jump.

 

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nounverb911 March 28, 2012 at 1:58 pm

Isn't being born a pre-existing condition?

actor212 March 28, 2012 at 2:16 pm

It certainly is for dying!

SorosBot March 28, 2012 at 2:32 pm

He who isnt busy being born, is busy dying.

actor212 March 28, 2012 at 2:35 pm

The Republicans like to think of it as "pre-dying" so they can stop insuring us.

Negropolis March 29, 2012 at 1:49 am

Not if you're anti-abortion, apparently.

sullivanst March 28, 2012 at 2:27 pm

Not if you're factory-assembled…

WiscDad March 28, 2012 at 2:31 pm

Being a fetus (fetii?) is a pre-existing condition in the truest sense. Actually being a zygote…no wait a sperm cell…wait wait…an ovum….shit, what comes first…the chicken or the egg

actor212 March 28, 2012 at 2:31 pm

A twinkle in dad's eye?

HistoriCat March 28, 2012 at 3:05 pm

Wine coolers and a tent?

flamingpdog March 28, 2012 at 2:35 pm

All of them, Katie?

Come here a minute March 28, 2012 at 1:58 pm

You can't trick me into watching that video — I know they are just talking about their car elevators.

nounverb911 March 28, 2012 at 2:00 pm

Car elevator? Is that a new euphemism for Viagra?

OneYieldRegular March 28, 2012 at 7:42 pm

No. A substitute.

actor212 March 28, 2012 at 2:16 pm

Well, it's tough driving two Cadillacs up the stairs.

Preferred Customer March 28, 2012 at 4:10 pm

I wish. The only thing interesting about Jay Leno is his car collection/obsession. If I thought Romney really had any of that same passion, I'd be much more sympathetic to him.

littlebigdaddy March 28, 2012 at 1:59 pm

Hey, Mittens in unemployed, so he prolly doesn't have insurance either, but he knows the owners of some insurance companies.

nounverb911 March 28, 2012 at 2:01 pm

He probably owns some doctors too, also.

actor212 March 28, 2012 at 2:25 pm

He probably fucks the Geico gekko, too

Jukesgrrl March 28, 2012 at 5:12 pm

He doesn't fuck.

Romney, I mean.

savethispatient March 28, 2012 at 2:00 pm

I'm just amazed he avoided calling employer-provided health insurance an "unnecessary overhead".

weej_bain March 28, 2012 at 2:12 pm

Mmmmm, could cut our "unnecessary overhead" but that would make me a first class dick in the eyes of the employees who would then, if they had any sense, feed me to the orcas next tome we're doing some Puget Sound inspections. Naaaah, can't do it.

Yo your Mittenship, if you do get the keys to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., smear some smashed potatoes on your pee pee so everyone will know you are a dick-tator.

SorosBot March 28, 2012 at 2:16 pm

Well we could get rid of that "unnecessary overhead" by having the government provide a true single-payer system instead of relying on employer-provided health insurance – but then, that would be socialism, and so we can't have that.

Doktor StrangeZoom March 28, 2012 at 2:27 pm

But government can never be as efficient as private industry! This is why Medicare's administrative costs are between 1% and 6% (depending on what you count), and private insurance is a much more efficient 15% to 25%.

But I ask you this: if Medicare is so great, how come they don't sell stock, huh?

Crank_Tango March 28, 2012 at 2:45 pm

yes because that would be bad for business and freedom, and business freedom.

Invisible hand don't give a fuck, also.

Lascauxcaveman March 28, 2012 at 2:24 pm

Comment deleted by user who is slower than Sorosbot (as usual).

SorosBot March 28, 2012 at 2:40 pm

Well it's still an important point to make. Really, most of the "job creators" should be lobbying for a single payer health plan, since it's in their own self-interests, except for those in the insurance industry; but instead they stand buy their fellow companion overlords in our neo-feudal aristocracy.

MissTaken March 28, 2012 at 2:46 pm

Remove the tax deduction for employers who do provide health insurance to their workers and suddenly you'll see corporate overlords clamoring for single-payer. Dead employees aren't very productive.

SorosBot March 28, 2012 at 2:58 pm

Isn't it a great result of our political system, that since the end of the Johnson administration almost all government aid has come in the form of tax deductions instead of direct subsidies?

HistoriCat March 28, 2012 at 3:09 pm

How many shitty companies would be looking at a mass employee exodus if they couldn't keep their workers with slightly-better than average health insurance? They might have to treat their workers decently if they couldn't use health insurance as a way of chaining workers to their jobs.

actor212 March 28, 2012 at 2:28 pm

Hey, HMO executives are people too, my friend!

dubyatf March 28, 2012 at 2:35 pm

@actor212
"Hey, HMO executives are millionaires, too, my friend!" (fixed it for ya, actor)
And thus, the *very best* people.

actor212 March 28, 2012 at 2:45 pm

Oh, thanks! Here's a million for you. Keep the change.

Barb March 28, 2012 at 2:01 pm

Mitt Romney, The Most Uninteresting Man in the World.
~Bill Maher

noodlesalad March 28, 2012 at 2:12 pm

I don't always run for office as a conservative, but when I do, I'm opposed to solving America's health care problem.

Baconzgood March 28, 2012 at 2:01 pm

Brake dust shops are people too my friend.

memzilla March 28, 2012 at 2:01 pm

Shorter version: Rmoney trickle down. The most discredited, proven-wrong economic theory since Ponzi. Unfunnier then your Uncle Max doing the old "Wanna double your money? Fold it in half!" joke that he cribbed out of Reader's Digest in 1953.

Biff March 28, 2012 at 2:26 pm

Even Abe Lincoln said it might work if not for greed at the top.

BlueStateLibel March 28, 2012 at 2:42 pm

Even David Stockton doesn't believe in that crap anymore.

ChernobylSoup March 28, 2012 at 2:02 pm

They finally found a venue bland enough for Mitt's beta version humor recognition software to work.

FlownOver March 28, 2012 at 2:03 pm

Will. Not. Watch.

Even if I had the stomach, I'm too busy negotiating those Mittens-guaranteed health care benefits from my employer, Poopsmiths-R-Us.

freakishlywrong March 28, 2012 at 2:03 pm

"Lovey, more tea? Watch that poor laying there. Release the hounds!"

dubyatf March 28, 2012 at 2:48 pm

FINALLY. The 1% fights back! It's about time they stopped letting the poors walk all over them.
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OneYieldRegular March 28, 2012 at 2:03 pm

Hey everyone! Free health clinic at the Romney estate this weekend! *stampede*

actor212 March 28, 2012 at 2:29 pm

Oh good! I can take care of this UTI then….hope he doesn't mind that I, um, have problems waiting…

Joshua Norton March 28, 2012 at 2:03 pm

Romney boldly takes on Big Poor.

Respitetini March 28, 2012 at 2:06 pm

Hey, someone has to watch out for the millionaires.

RadioStalingrad March 28, 2012 at 2:29 pm

The Rich Have Suffered Enough!

RadioStalingrad March 28, 2012 at 2:04 pm

Tax cuts for the job creators. *Applause*

Lucidamente1 March 28, 2012 at 2:05 pm

Next up: going on Sesame Street to explain how SCHIP is for losers.

James Michael Curley March 28, 2012 at 2:12 pm

I set my V-Chip to 'No Leno' a couple hours after I got the TV.

Jus_Wonderin March 28, 2012 at 2:32 pm

I finally realized, years ago (thankfully), how much of a ahole he is.

Biff March 28, 2012 at 3:01 pm

He supported Schwartzenegger, that's all I needed to know about him.

flamingpdog March 28, 2012 at 2:43 pm

He better build up his arm muscles if he wants to flip the Big Bird to teh kidz.

Schmannnity March 28, 2012 at 2:05 pm

Isn't that Floyd R. Turbo with Leno?

Biff March 28, 2012 at 2:27 pm

Minus the hat.

Baconzgood March 28, 2012 at 2:06 pm

I'm sick and fucking tierd of this voodoo economics talking points shit! We've been doing trickle dick theory for 30+ fucking years and no one sais to these bozos "we've been doing this and it hasn't worked why not try another model?"

(this comment is 100% snark free)

freakishlywrong March 28, 2012 at 2:18 pm

oh, but Baconz! It is said, just not said on our libel media.

James Michael Curley March 28, 2012 at 2:21 pm

A couple weeks ago Bill Moyers was interviewing David Stockman (of the Reagan Years) who has become vehemently opposed to 'trickle down' economics theories. His dismissal was pure art in its logic and reasoning. By the end of the show Moyers and Stockman were almost jumping up and down like school girls.

GunToting[Redacted] March 28, 2012 at 2:24 pm

It's because we are not trying fully. Corporations are still paying taxes. Until this tyranny is stopped, Arthur Laffer must weep and gnash his teeth alone.

Baconzgood March 28, 2012 at 2:30 pm

Yeah the "Laugher" curve. Well named in my opinion.

ifthethunderdontgetya March 28, 2012 at 2:27 pm

It's because tinkle-on works very well for the plutocrats, and so they have plenty of spare change with which to purchase our media and our politicians.

The end.
~

BarackMyWorld March 28, 2012 at 2:06 pm

“waivers for all 50 states from Obamacare”

I wonder if Romney would favor expanding his Mass. health care plan into the other 49 states instead. Hmmm, someone should definitely ask him that. Douche.

actor212 March 28, 2012 at 2:30 pm

Waive your state in the air and waiver like you just don't care!

SexySmurf March 28, 2012 at 2:07 pm

"I like being able to fire people named Conan O'Brien."

-Jay Leno

AlterNewt March 28, 2012 at 2:07 pm

So Mitt Romney and Jay Leno walk into a bar, and nothing happens. Nothing.

Jukesgrrl March 28, 2012 at 5:18 pm

Well, I think a few people left. And then the waitress started to worry that she would be stiffed on her tip.

widestanceromance March 28, 2012 at 2:07 pm

"I like being able to deny people coverage, my friend"

Wonderthing March 28, 2012 at 2:07 pm

The dead don't vote. This is the evil plan no one sees.

prommie March 28, 2012 at 2:08 pm

He is a bag of ice-cold douche. He makes me shiver with revulsion. I want to kick him in the cunt. (obviously impossible; the secret service would never let me).

noodlesalad March 28, 2012 at 2:09 pm

Don't blame the Jay Leno audience, they voted for Kodos.

actor212 March 28, 2012 at 2:33 pm

Yes, but McCain isn't running this year

Chill-A-Sketch March 28, 2012 at 2:10 pm

Why would I want to watch a phony, unfunny panderer interview another phony, unfunny panderer?

Exhausted66 March 28, 2012 at 2:12 pm

Insurance once you're sick????
What are you, a human being?

flamingpdog March 28, 2012 at 2:12 pm

"But you don't want everyone to sit back until they get sick, and then want to go out and buy insurance."

Mitt, you fucking shithead, that's what the individual mandate is all about, you FUCKING SHITHEAD!

EDIT: That quote is from the last ten seconds of the video. Do I get a "Masochist of the Day" award for listening to the whole video?

Sharkey March 28, 2012 at 2:18 pm

You will get the award and YOU WILL LIKE IT MISTER. OR ELSE.

Preferred Customer March 28, 2012 at 4:14 pm

"We have to find rules to get people in."

Which, yes. You do have to do that. Almost like you have to find some way to…eh…mandate…that…er…individuals…buy insurance? Some sort of requirement? Bah. If only someone could come up with something like this.

Gainsbourg69 March 28, 2012 at 6:40 pm

He knows that, but he can't say it. He's running for office for Pete's sake.

Toomush_Infer March 28, 2012 at 2:12 pm

OMG, no wonder his handlers never let him talk about "ideas"….he doesn't have any…

Jukesgrrl March 28, 2012 at 5:20 pm

But doesn't he almost look human in his mom jeans and button-down shirt?

fuflans March 28, 2012 at 9:41 pm

no he really doesn't. i just watched this and …

man…

if i wasn't worried enough about scotus, this tool..

jesus mormon on a tab can.

HobbesEvilTwin March 28, 2012 at 2:13 pm

what a pairing: an unfunny comedian and an unelectable politician.

BarackMyWorld March 28, 2012 at 2:14 pm
chicken_thief March 28, 2012 at 2:19 pm

He was only a bag of Skittles away from being shot.

Biff March 28, 2012 at 2:32 pm

Oh for fuck's sake.

unclejeems March 28, 2012 at 3:04 pm

I tip my hoodie to Rep. Rush.

LagunaB March 28, 2012 at 3:14 pm

I was driving by the high school as it let out. All the kids had their hoodies up. And it was a nice day. I have been thinking about my (older) kids. And here are the kids that could have been shot for no reason. I actually had hope for the future.

Not_So_Much March 28, 2012 at 2:15 pm

I wonder if he has friends that own national mortuary chains?

Jukesgrrl March 28, 2012 at 5:22 pm

Of course. He has friends that will baptize you after you're dead, too.

actor212 March 28, 2012 at 2:15 pm

The uninsured should die to ensure an adequate resource for Soylent Green

RadioStalingrad March 28, 2012 at 2:15 pm

Is an Etch-a-Sketch shoved up your ass a pre-existing condition?

ManchuCandidate March 28, 2012 at 2:16 pm

It's like Mittens doesn't really want to win.

Mittens campaign PR team is probably shooting heroin just to numb the stupid.

Andrew Drinker March 28, 2012 at 3:12 pm

Mittens has probably secretly realized that being "next in line" in the Republican Party means they really don't give a fuck about you, but they need someone to run and lose anyway.

See also: Barry Goldwater 1964, Bob Dole 1996, John McCain 2008.

DrunkIrishman March 28, 2012 at 2:16 pm

YEAH?!? Well some of us aren't lucky enough to just power down and go back into the shop for a measly $50 reboot every time something goes wrong. The rest of us are actual human beings with human organs that sometimes fail.

So, take your flowing metal hair and shove it up your pathetic, mechanical sounding ass, you robotic piece of shit.

Lascauxcaveman March 28, 2012 at 2:16 pm

Big cheers for “waivers for all 50 states from Obamacare” and big cheers for “covering pre-existing conditions through Obamacare” from Jay Leno’s feckless and easily led audience

TV studio "Applause" prompter signs are people too, my friend.

actor212 March 28, 2012 at 2:25 pm

As are canned applause machines, my friend!

SorosBot March 28, 2012 at 2:17 pm

Hey, Mittens should get easy laughs from an audience that still thinks OJ Simpson and Monica Lewinsky jokes are edgy and relevant.

actor212 March 28, 2012 at 2:23 pm

Did you see the jack-booted thugs with the M-16s holding on the audience?

StarsUponThars March 28, 2012 at 2:18 pm

There it is, in living color, my own personal hell: forced for all eternity to listen to those two shitbuckets shuck and jive with each other.

Preferred Customer March 28, 2012 at 4:18 pm

I don't much care for Leno's "comedy," but in fairness, he asked harder questions than I've heard on a lot of the Sunday talk shows. And he followed up. So many of the news channels these days ask one "hardball" (softball) question, get the talking point, and move on. Jay spent a couple of minutes unpacking Romney's bullshit about offering coverage "to those who've been continuously insured," exposing it (I think) for the meaningless drivel that it is.

Not hard-hitting journalism, perhaps, but more than I'd expect from mainstream late night talk.

fuflans March 28, 2012 at 9:43 pm

honey, just keep reading the enquirer.

bat boy lives!

Lucidamente1 March 28, 2012 at 2:18 pm

Romney would do well in this race:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSqkdcT25ss

sharethegrief March 28, 2012 at 2:19 pm

Inhaling brake dust is a better option than enduring Mitt for 4 years.

actor212 March 28, 2012 at 2:21 pm

Jay Leno: The Tokyo Rose of American Corporatocracy

ttommyunger March 28, 2012 at 2:22 pm

Sorry, no way I'm spending one second of what life I have left watching two white, middle-aged millionaires jerk each other off, not even for Wonkette.

Baconzgood March 28, 2012 at 2:23 pm

I don't think you can have two guys on TV that I could care less about.

Sharkey March 28, 2012 at 2:23 pm

I bet Romney likes Doritos too.

Jukesgrrl March 28, 2012 at 5:25 pm

As long as they give him a nice linen napkin so he doesn't get any cheese powder on his mom jeans.

SoBeach March 28, 2012 at 2:23 pm

"Bring down top tax rates…"

There you go. Tax cuts for the rich. Keep f'in that chicken.

James Michael Curley March 28, 2012 at 2:30 pm

I misread that headline as Human Malady … and immediately thought Tsetse fly.

actor212 March 28, 2012 at 2:34 pm

Chinese Commie horder!

Lucidamente1 March 28, 2012 at 2:31 pm

"See, Jay, the way you and NBC behaved with Conan. That's the kind of America I'm talking about."

actor212 March 28, 2012 at 2:31 pm

You know who else talked smack about the poor on Leno's show?

Biff March 28, 2012 at 2:36 pm

Usually, it's Jay.

actor212 March 28, 2012 at 2:59 pm

Done in one!

FraAnima March 28, 2012 at 2:38 pm

All of them, Katie.

flamingpdog March 28, 2012 at 2:49 pm

My heroin dealer?

FraAnima March 28, 2012 at 2:34 pm

Charles Dickens would be salivating over this new reality. Except that there isn't as much humor these days.

ElPinche March 28, 2012 at 2:35 pm

Wait, Jay Leno is still alive? I thought he bored himself into a coma? This clip is putting me into REM state .

Preferred Customer March 28, 2012 at 4:26 pm

You are losing your religion, too? It's time to take a stand. We can't keep exhuming McCarthy. It's not like I am superman, but I am not crazy, either.

These days, I believe we are living underneath the bunker. Everything is so fast, so numb. We have to ask ourselves, in little America, what if we give it away? We don't want to end up second guessing. That's the wake-up bomb I'm talking about.

Welcome to the occupation–it's the end of the world as we know it.

ElPinche March 28, 2012 at 5:29 pm

I wouldn't want Newt to fall on me, but he'll be nothing but a murmur in the next couple of weeks. On Nov 4 2012, Mitt's campaign people will not be shiny happy people. I need to go now to smoke some orange crush with my seven chinese brothers.

Biff March 28, 2012 at 2:35 pm

Everybody knows the road to the White House goes through David Letterman's show, Mittbot.

SorosBot March 28, 2012 at 2:46 pm

Just ask John McCain how well skipping out on Letterman worked for him.

Biff March 28, 2012 at 2:54 pm

Dave already won't let up on the Seamus on the roof of the car meme, to his credit.

DahBoner March 29, 2012 at 11:16 am

Even called for Mitt's arrest on animal cruelty charges.

Bwahahahaha!

Negropolis March 29, 2012 at 1:55 am

He must know that Dave doesn't swallow bullshit GOP talking points.

BTW, to be fair to Leno — whose guts I hate after what he did to Conan — he actually didn't let up on Mitt after he made his first bullshit talking point, but went back at him for seconds.

Can't believe I'm defending him, but I was surprised Leno didn't let him slip away right away.

Biff March 29, 2012 at 10:35 am

Kudos to you for watching.

I actually blame the network, more than Jay, for what happened to Conan. Who on earth promises the moon to a guy, when the current occupant of that same moon is at the top of the ratings, as Jay was? Then to placate him, they offer him the 10:00 slot, hoping that would draw the same audience to stick around, even past the 11:00 news? Couldn't work, didn't work. Different styles, different audiences. NBC should have let Conan go when he got the offer from-who was it, ABC? Fox?-before the shit hit the fan…

Jus_Wonderin March 28, 2012 at 2:36 pm

I'd rather be watching Ellen.

BlueStateLibel March 28, 2012 at 2:36 pm

What if you're a fetus with a serious illness and you have no insurance? Are you allowed to die or is that killing the unborn because you refuse them healthcare? Or if you're a two-year-old with leukemia whose parents' lost their only job when Mitt Rmoney bankrupted the company they worked for, and thus have no insurance?

Biff March 28, 2012 at 2:39 pm

Mitt will just make sure they're baptized, problem solved.

Jus_Wonderin March 28, 2012 at 2:41 pm

I don't know, but I bet the answer is "tough shit".

SorosBot March 28, 2012 at 2:37 pm

Another thing about Leno's audience is that they're pretty much all Baby Boomers, or even older, and so already have access to socialized health insurance through Medicare, and don't have to worry about the bullshit lack of access that the rest of us do. Their opinion on my health insurance (that I currently don't have) isn't worth much.

freakishlywrong March 28, 2012 at 2:46 pm

Nor is your ongoing existence, to these selfish assholes, Soros.

SorosBot March 28, 2012 at 2:59 pm

As long as their taxes stay low; that's what's important.

MissTaken March 28, 2012 at 2:39 pm

With amazing appearances like this it is inconceivable why Romney's approval ratings are so low.

SayItWithWookies March 28, 2012 at 2:51 pm

Mitt doesn't see why anyone wouldn't be able to afford medical insurance, even if they're unemployed — why, just dip into some of the regular residuals you earn from your deferred compensation package from your last job ten years ago and — what?! You didn't negotiate a deferred compensation package? Oh, dear.

Jus_Wonderin March 28, 2012 at 2:55 pm

"You mean, you don't have a rich Father? Golly."

FakaktaSouth March 28, 2012 at 2:53 pm

What I want to do with the tax code is continue on the path Bain lobbied for in 2007, I want to pay so little that I can have a car elevator in my house in Cali, bitches. It's not MY fault you failures don't have one.

My 62 yo father just lost his job last week because of budget cuts and now has no health insurance unless he pays thousands of dollars for the cobra – and he has a terrible degenerative eye disease, so he needs it (SCOTUS makes the pre-existing condition clause in Obamacare go away and he is TRIPLE screwed). He has too much money for medicaid, doesn't qualify yet for Medicare. I think it is horrible that he should become bankrupt or homeless or have to remarry my mother for healthcare (something she said she would do, is this Cuba??) He has a savings, pension and no debt, but it still may not be enough for 4 years of out of pocket insurance – especially since he's got that eye thing wrong with him. I don't know why he has to pay more for healthcare than he does for rent to stay alive simply because we feel health care in this country should be for-profit. So, I'm biased, but when Mitt Romney makes a COMPLETELY ERRONEOUS point and laughs because he's so clever he reminds me of the winking blinking eating disorder riddled failure of a VP candidate from 2008.

HistoriCat March 28, 2012 at 3:19 pm

Hell, if this was Cuba he would get treatment.

FakaktaSouth March 28, 2012 at 3:41 pm

This is very true – and far be it from me to attack a higher rated healthcare country than ours. I am just still haunted by the article I read a while back about how many couples in Cuba stay together for financial reasons – all the way to the point where a couple and their respective boy/girl friends also live there. Freaked me out.

HistoriCat March 28, 2012 at 3:57 pm

So it's something we have in common with Cuba – remaining with someone you used to care about due to financial reasons.

Building bridges of desperation all over the place.

fuflans March 28, 2012 at 9:48 pm

well i'm making mr fuflans marry me for insurance as i am now (for a brief time) one of the 1-7% who has awesome insurance.

i told him he was my mail order bride.

i am very v sorry for your dad. we can't have nice things and i am going to canada.

Biff March 29, 2012 at 10:46 am

I had a girlfriend who married one of her ex-boyfriends and business partners for insurance purposes. Turns out I wasn't as open minded as I'd like to project, it really freaked me out, she sensed it, and dumped my ass. 8 years later they're still married, though she's living with someone else.

Good luck to you and your Dad, sounds like alla y'all will be OK…

Gainsbourg69 March 28, 2012 at 6:48 pm

If he were in Cuba he probably wouldn't even have the eye condition.

Jukesgrrl March 28, 2012 at 5:46 pm

So sorry about this. I really feel for your Dad. When the company I worked for went bankrupt, I lost my job and healthcare. I got unemployment, but COBRA payments would have taken more than half that, so thanks but no thanks. As it was, even sans insurance my unemployment would pay for my mortgage payment OR basic living expenses, not both.

You're right that your Dad is in the worst position possible for getting through the next three years until Medicare kicks in. He might have to rely on your mother. I would have lost my house if not for help from my family. It's really a lesson in humility.

Is it possible your Dad lives near a university research/teaching hospital? Sometimes they will take patients with diseases they want to study and treat them at no cost. It's worth looking into. Also, they usually have social workers who could assess his situation and find out if there is any obscure program he would be eligible for. I ended up being eligible for basic care in a program I'd never heard of and is not widely publicized because they don't want a flood of applicants. And that's in Arizona, not a place you'd think would have pity on the poorz. Best of luck to him.

FakaktaSouth March 28, 2012 at 6:13 pm

You're so good and kind. I love talking to you and I thank ya – and he does happen to live by one of the premiere research hospitals in the whole wide world (UAB is amazing, despite the "being in Alabama" of it all) I will look in to this for real.

I hate it for you that you have had to deal with so much in your life, things that really didn't have to be so hard. I watched a 35yo friend spend her last months on Earth on the phone with insurance people and hospital admin over money for the cancer treatments that I'm pretty sure killed her. It is an evil and unjust system here. It makes me sadder than anything else. I have excellent health insurance and it still sucks balls.

You are right – family is important and helpful in these times and my dad knows he will never have to REALLY worry, unlike MILLIONS of people in this country. His mother is still alive and in better shape than I am (and I am in pretty damn good shape) and she has money and looooves her first son. I have already told him he is more than welcome to move in with us, and we have room so that it wouldn't suck for him. Even if it hopefully (for his sake, because he really likes his pad and situation overall) never comes to that I know it is important for him to have that basic security – but why should life have to be that precarious? And I KNOW we are lucky to have each other and that HE (and my Mom) WORKED like he did all his freaking life so that I am at a point in my life where I am able to be there for him. It's ridiculous and inhumane that he should have to even consider this. He raised two daughters who both graduated from college debt free without ever having jobs BECAUSE of him, and now here we are. It's appalling and unnecessary. The wrongheadedness of people's "opinions" of healthcare in this country IS changing because EVERYBODY knows SOMEBODY with a story now. I just can't believe I won't live to see the day when we REALLY change things here. I don't WANT to.

fuflans March 28, 2012 at 10:00 pm

jukes i hope you are now back to employment (if you want to be). i went thru the same thing only i was lucky enough to have the fiscal stimulas at my back so cobra for me was about $113 a month for cadillac insurance.

i never – ever – heard anybody talking about this part of the evil evil stimulus. i was a direct beneficiary for like 18 months. i would go to the people of my family's in a wealthly chicago suburb and crow at the top of my lungs.

fuck republicans. just fuck them.

Jukesgrrl March 29, 2012 at 2:35 am

Thanks, darlin'.

Toomush_Infer March 28, 2012 at 2:56 pm

Hey, I just figured out where Mitt got the idea for his car elevator….!

Biff March 28, 2012 at 3:09 pm

Because a stairway to heaven won't work?

LagunaB March 28, 2012 at 3:31 pm

I have no idea how he can build a car elevator at that location. If it goes up it will block the ocean view from behind and he will get sued. And if they excavate down the dirt is just sand and clay which is unstable. So bizarro.

Biff March 28, 2012 at 3:54 pm

The liberal application of concrete, reinforcing steel and cash (mostly cash) overcomes all obstacles. He hired a lobbyist for his house, for fuck's sake!

Mumbletypeg March 28, 2012 at 3:06 pm

This tragicomic excuse of a candidate is all Ken Doll where realAmericans want either GI Joe, Reagan resurrected, Breitbart unmartyred or some combination of the three, dunked in Essence-of-Teabag and crooning about watering their liberty trees, even though it amounts to pissing away the same barking bumpkins' retirement funds.

flamingpdog March 28, 2012 at 3:06 pm

OT, and I know he'll probably never speak to me again for telling y'all this, but today is ttommyunger's birfday. Happy Birthday, Old Man!

Biff March 28, 2012 at 3:21 pm

Damn, he's old!

Isyaignert March 28, 2012 at 3:08 pm

Thanks for talking me down. It might be a blessing in disguise if the SCROTUS blows it up. Then we just put everyone on Medicare. problem solved.

You're right – the Heritage Foundation (Koch bros.) thought up the individual mandate in the first place! Those GD neocons don't know which way is up.

aguacatero March 28, 2012 at 3:41 pm

Ever wondered what kind of dipshit would choose to be in Jay Leno's audience? This kind.

HistoriCat March 28, 2012 at 3:58 pm

Congress will immediately enact a single-payer plan

John Boehner just poured himself another drink and Mitch McConnell withdrew into his shell to escape the tears.

Limeylizzie March 28, 2012 at 5:11 pm

May I suggest a portion of a speech by a hero of mine, Aneurin Bevan who was responsible for the National Health Service after WW2 in UK. Just replace the word " Tory" with "Republican" and "Lord Woolton" with "Mittens" and you'll be good.

That is why no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party that inflicted those bitter experiences on me. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin. They condemned millions of first-class people to semi-starvation. Now the Tories are pouring out money in propaganda of all sorts and are hoping by this organised sustained mass suggestion to eradicate from our minds all memory of what we went through. But, I warn you young men and women, do not listen to what they are saying now. Do not listen to the seductions of Lord Woolton. He is a very good salesman. If you are selling shoddy stuff you have to be a good salesman. But I warn you they have not changed, or if they have they are slightly worse than they were.

Jukesgrrl March 28, 2012 at 5:51 pm

Talk 'murcan, you elitist!

(But seriously, that is one righteous speech.)

Limeylizzie March 28, 2012 at 5:56 pm

Nye Bevan was awesome,Welsh ex-coal miner born into grinding poverty, sefl-educated and just altogether amazing.Oh and I just started reading March Violets by Philip Kerr and I love it!

Jukesgrrl March 29, 2012 at 2:45 am

We need that Wonkette book club someone was proposing awhile back. I'm reading Death Comes to Pemberley by PD James now.She doing a pretty good job of the Jane Austen imitation.She's made me laugh often and I never thought of the Baroness as funny.Glad you're enjoying Bernie Gunther.His trials are many.

Gainsbourg69 March 28, 2012 at 6:52 pm

That cunt Cameron wants to privatize the NHS. Where are the Bevans of today?

Jukesgrrl March 28, 2012 at 5:52 pm

Perhaps the audience cheered because they had a basketball game on the in-studio monitors.

Laissez_Queer March 28, 2012 at 6:26 pm

OK, I get Mad Men has ushered in retro business-daddy chic, but it's not the best paradigm for choosing our Presidential candidates. Obvs.

dennis1943 March 28, 2012 at 7:28 pm

Why didn't Mexico wipe out this mutant strain when they had the chance…….?

rocktonsam March 28, 2012 at 9:37 pm

Jay Leno knows people who have no insurance and he knows people with pre- existing illness.

who knew?

Biff March 29, 2012 at 10:50 am

Facebook, the great equalizer.

fuflans March 28, 2012 at 10:08 pm

jesus christ. he has no idea. no plans, nothing. my earnest always right boyfriend is right again and he's (mittens) nothing but an over indulged scion whose bain career is a chimera.

jesus christ.

bye y'all i'm going to listen to nirvana for the rest of the evening. and drink something reddish with notes of purple despair.

MissNancyPriss March 28, 2012 at 11:31 pm

He can't be real.

Negropolis March 29, 2012 at 2:00 am

I said it the other night, but if we'd have fought for the public option, we wouldn't even be discussing a possible Supreme Court smackdown. So, we half-assed this, and it might still not stick. This is why you go big, and deal with the electoral consequences, later. 'Cause, now, no matter how much we watered it down we still lost BIG in 2010, and what little weak healthcare reform we did get through — a plan that the president couldn't even defend until literally last week — might have all been for naught.

Dems, you have got to get your shit together. Let this be a lesson.

XtfrM March 29, 2012 at 8:29 am

Haysoos Christ, the dolts in Leno's audience are clapping at the clapped out "job creators" myth. Depressing. But then, Leno is ALWAYS depressing.

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