You guys, Shep Smith is mad (again), and he is not having any more of this nonsense. Somebody must have forgotten to send him Hannity’s playbook on how to wonder whether this whole Trayvon Martin mishigas might not have just been a terrible misunderstanding, because he is almost in a fugue state of anger.
“He’s walking home with Skittles for his sibling, and his iced tea. There was a confrontation, there was screaming, there was ‘help help help,’ there was a dispute over who was screaming help, it’s widely believed that it was Trayvon. Hang on. Widely believed it was Trayvon who was screaming ‘help’ and then shots fired. And then silence. Ominous silence. And then a little boy lying face down in a pool of his own blood. And dying in the streets of that gated community. And then this man who did the shooting, his weapon is not even taken away? And it’s not even taken into consideration whether this man is a danger to his community?”
Haven’t seen Shep this mad since Katrina, the day a FOX News boy-anchor became a man.
Welcome, dude who sponsored the Stand Your Ground law. Enjoy being morally high-grounded (ACTUAL moral high-ground) on FOX News, for fuck’s sake. [Mediaite]
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Shep, if I had a clue who the hell you are I would like you for this.
He's the one who infamously said "blow job" on live TV when talking about J.Lo.
That was funny, thanks Lettuce!
You know, that sounds like a pretty good idea of what I'm thinking about when she sings like that.
In the words of Larry Craig: Shep is a naughty, naughty boy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Vs5570pKw
He's a silly little catfish
He's also the only person in the entire right wing machine to question Joe the Plumber's infalibility. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/foxs-she….
So, by my count, Shep Smith is responsible for 100% (two times) of the instances in which Fox News did NOT lie.
Also, hates torture. he doesn't belong on faux.
Yeah, as everybody else said, Shep Smith's tenure on FOX is as strange as when Pat Buchanan was on MSNBC. He tends to be eminently sane. I have absolutely no idea how he has survived this long there.
Shep is angling for mainstream appeal. . .there's a career to be had there too ya know.
Maybe CurrentTV will hire him when he gets the axe for questioning whitey's right to shoot the brownz.
Shep Smith = Token Sane non-Tool at FOX
He has no future there.
Yes. But soon – very soon – Stepford Smith will have a Bright one.
Thunderbirds are GO!
Does look a bit like Captain Scarlet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K9rVRuehGU
Shep, Roger Ailes would like to see you in his office, right now.
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Ailes' top left desk drawer is where he keeps the colony of Mind-Control Insects.
Oh, so that's why the gals of Fox act like they have a bug up their ass. It turns out that they do.
BIG Bug.
Ann Coulter really needs to remember to put on her wig before being photographed.
Are you thinking Wrath of Khan style? Those seemed more like reptiles than insects.
Yes! I think they were eels, or something like, but I like to riff on these things.
Ah! Ze Google tells me they were "Ceti eels", but the full-grown version looks like a cross between an armadillo and an earwig:
Ceti Eel
My hovercraft is full of eels
It's news when someone on Fox News speaks actual facts. DRUDGE SIREN?
I just realized that the Sgt Bates affair is Afghanistan's My Lai.
Well, except for the whole complete breakdown in leadership, issuance (and obeying) of illegal orders by most of the soldiers in a unit, cover-up attempt, punishment of the few involved soldiers who actually stood up to their unit commanders about the massacre, yeah.
Actually I had a similar thought in terms of perception, but at the same time the handling of the incident to date is a marked improvement over Abu Gharib, Pat Tillman's death or even the raid to rescue Jessica Lynch. Much less My Lai.
BerkeleyBear:
Excellent points! Sgt. Bates didn't stop for lunch and then go back to work. Also.
Actually I think he had a snack and got more bullets. then when back out and did it again.
102415:
I stand (well, actually, sit) corrected. This news came out since my Post.
I can't edit my post now that you've replied – I also want to leave it up because I do agree with BerkeleyBear's comments.
The Army has very specific training since My Lai to prevent such incidents from ever happening again. There is an Army Training Film on the subject, in fact, which does an excellent job of explaining why you must disobey unlawful orders. I've conducted this training in combat and non-combat units and the film was an essential part of the lesson plan. I don't know if they're still using the film, but it's a hot topic of discussion and study. See here (for example): http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA423617
Actually, this was much "better" and the body count was not in the hundreds. So we are either getting better behaved or more lazy, depending on your point of view.
Except then there were over 400 dead, massacres of whole villages were accepted under the umbrella of "Free Fire Zones" (If it moves, kill it) and a hungry young Major named Colin Powell earned his bones by "containing" the responsibility down to the Company Grade Level (Captain and below). His fealty was rewarded by him being given larger and larger roles in the Company's Schemes. Pershing, MacArthur, Haig and many others got their hands dirty early on, kept their mouths shut about it and were rewarded handsomely.
You all are so interesting and knowledgeable on this topic.
(Reminds me of AV Club comments on "The Pacific.")
Shep doesn't understand that black kids in hoodies is exactly what the community is gated from. C'mon man, your locker is right next to Giraldo's, you guys talk all the time…
Someone on FOX said something I agree with? Those bloody Mayans must have been right.
On the same day that Allen West said something a normal human being would say, too!
Great, someone's asking for a phone-tapping.
Shep is a repeat offender against the laws of Fox bigotry, Obama must have gotten to his family.
At the behest of the Black Panthers, Weather Underground, SDS, and the Free Bobby Seale Coalition, no doubt.
Maybe Sharpton showed up at Shep's house wearing a hoodie.
…and commander Saul Alinsky from his Sochalizm Command Center 15 miles below Berkley.
Someone at Fox needs to hook Shep back up to the jumper cables – he's starting to make sense and act like a human being.
He's a shy little possum.
Actually the maddest I ever saw him was when he said "This is America, we don't fucking torture"
You're saying he's made the mistake of being an empathetic human before?
Even more inexplicable, what's the deal with his eyes?
Confrontation is pretty much a given during face to face shootings.
OK, but how desperate can we be that we have to hang on to this kind of threads?
Well I was gonna do 50 sit-ups but chose this instead.
Some ditzy assistant forgot to put the Soma in Shep's coffee this morning, no doubt.
It is a leap year, could that have something to do with it?
I'm pretty sure Mercury is in retrograde right now.
You know what? I'm so tired of guns. I'm tired of these small pricked losers compensating with a pistol.
It doesn't take a tough guy to pull the trigger on an unarmed 17-year old. It takes a coward.
These people brandishing their guns like this is the fucking Wild West need a wake up call and the more we appease these assholes, the more they're going to ineptly shoot innocent people.
It's all about the scared old oldz white guys – all their lives they've dreamed of trouble, and now their consciences are catching up in their dreams….Legislation!!!!…
"… between these two men on the sidewalk…"
Huh? Are you talking about the boy out walking while black and the man following him around in a car who got out confronted him and shot him dead.
Yeah, that has nothing to do with the vigilante law you passed, you piece of shit.
As for Shep, will someone please offer him a job before Murdoch steals his soul?
I tried posting about this whole Trayvon Martin mess, but every time I went to post, I got this: This comment has been deleted by the administrator.
So, I guess maybe it was a bit too nasty.
You probably mentioned the activation device for a firearm, which has a first syllable identical to the name of the youngest child of a recent special-needs VP candidate.
I encountered the same auto-delete, in a completely non-palin-related thread, when I tried to warn that a link contained material that might set off a stress reaction among those who've experience sexual violence. (AKA a "tr_gger warning")
I bet that was it. Dammit. I guess I'll go repost it now that I know.
Nah, I think if our comments are not rude enough,
Rebecca just deletes them right quick.
you are Drunk after all
Very un-nice interviewer, that Shep person–
just bullies answers from his guests. Since I've become a celebrity,
I've learned to avoid those types.
Maybe he wants Roger Ailes to spank him.
Hey give the organ grinder another quarter, that monkey's fucking funny!
Haven’t seen Shep this mad since Katrina, the day a FOX News boy-anchor became a man.
Shep got pretty fucking pissed off one time on-air about torture back in 2009.
Wish he'd have done that back in about 2004 or 5, but nobody else on murdoch's payroll has yet had the balls to do it.
Shep, your next assignment for the network will be as our on site coordinator of all Sarah Palin interviews conducted from Alaska.
Shep is aging quickly. The undercover assignment is taking its toll. DNC, get him out, quickly!
Geraldo Rivera's son has spoken up:
"My own son just wrote to say he's ashamed of my position re: hoodies," he (Geraldo) tweeted.
Thank you, Cruz Rivera!
I'm glad that someone told his ass off about that insensitive bullshit he said. I mean, who is he to talk about fashion with that 70's pornstache of his?
No snark. I've always liked the guy. It amazes me how he still has his job.
According to Megyn Kelly, it was the Skittles screaming when the hoodie snatched the gun from Zimmerman's hand.
Well, if there's one thing she knows about, it's food products.
Skittles are technically fruit.
Essentially, yes.
Michelle's USDA begs to differ. lol
A hoodie is the bag the executioner puts over your head, essentially.
Somebody give that man a "Fox News" hoodie.
Sensible, thorough coverage by an anchor of an important issue.
Shep Smith is so fired from FOX…
I'm reminded of Bill Hader's impression on SNL: "I'm Shepard Smith, and I'm a shy little possum."
Damn! Beat me to it! I apologize for line-jumping by putting it in a reply above.
All hail Lettuce!
I like "silly little catfish," 'cause he does look like a catfish about the face. lol
If his conscience ever gets to be too much for him, he can always resign.
And yet this Rep. Baxley fellow says we "need to hear the rest of the story." How is it that on any episode of Cops you can watch a police officer interview two people who've been in a fight and arrest one of them, whereas in Sanford they were presented with a live man holding a gun and a dead unarmed kid and have more investigating to do before they even make an arrest?
The FOX Criminal Enterprises stance on this seems to be (as it was on Assity's radio program last night) that we have to wait until all the facts come out. And while I'm outraged, it's a small step more human than the reaction to videotape of Rodney King being savaged by LA cops, which, if I recall was that he was asking for it. If the FOX bastards can't even blame the victim, they're on thin ground indeed.
The so-called "authorities" don't think they "have more investigating to do." They didn't secure the scene, didn't take pictures, didn't do alcohol/drug tests on the shooter, refused to interview people who came forward as witnesses (even though they were white), and allowed the shooter to take his weapon home, WHICH HE STILL HAS. No more facts can possibly come out unless somebody who's not from Florida does some investigating. Or maybe someone who's seen a TV crime program once in his or her life.
Where have you gone, Lenny Briscoe, a nation turns its lonely eyes to you. Woo, woo, woo.
The "let's wait until all of the facts come in" cop-out in obvious stories like this one, is the only thing certain Americans can do to save face, and not directly confront the horrible realization of fatal flaws in our society. It allows us to disconnect just enough to feel comfortable that the system isn't broken, when it really is.
I wish more Americans would just face up to things more often. It doesn't have to be in an overly-dramatic and emotional scream, but a kind of cold acceptance of a problem that needs to be solved. I don't think that some Americans get that this story came to be not because it's a particularly special case (though it is), but for quite the opposite: it's far too common and this was the last straw.
So how long before someone finds Shep dead in the Fox News men's room with a bag of Skittles in one hand and an iced tea in the other?
Uh oh, looks like someone's going to be cleaning Roger Aisle's toilet at FoxNews studios for a week.
NRA logic:
1. Good people should be allowed to have guns.
2. Only bad people unjustifiably shoot people.
3. Everyone with guns is thought to be good until they turn out to be bad.
Ergo… Second Amendment!
Umm…is it just me or is Shep looking a bit like Rock Hudson did before the big 'announcement'? I'm not asserting anything but Shep doesn't look as healthy & filled out as he once did. (And if he were gay, that would account for him being the only guy over there not completely bat shit insane.)
Exactly.
I have been trying to figure out a way to say this, but this story makes me so sad.
(I have always gotten a "gay vibe" from him, and wondered if this is why he is empathetic, and sometimes seems to draw the line and have compassion for others.)
Lest we go overboard with this gay=empathic message, may I please remind you about Roy Cohn and Larry Craig and J. Edgar Hoover, to name a few soulless entities with a bit of the gay. Unfortunately gay folk may be just as much assholes as the rest of the general populace.
You may be right, (those are some serious villains!), but I was specifically thinking along the lines of David Brock.
Once in a blue moon an asshole can be redeemed; gay or not.
I can tell you that this has been my experience. As a young gayling, after I came out & started mixing in gay circles, I was surprised at how many gay people I met who were racist (well, it was east TN/southwest VA but STILL). One of the first guys I dated actually asked me if the Klan allowed gay members. I said "Umm…I don't think so." (He was gorgeous but a bit dim).
He looks like he enjoys being overserved if you get my drift.
Shep himself says he's lost too much after being diagnosed with high cholesterol and blood pressure and going overboard in the other direction. I do hope that's all it is and not something more serious. He's the only reasonable one on Fox News.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/fox-news-shep-smit…
Fuck snark I hate the fucking gun laws in this country. Shep fight the power bro!
After the show, Smith was taken to Roger Ailes' office and shot by George Zimmerman.
After the show, Smith was taken to Roger Ailes' office – given a Hoodie – and shot by George Zimmerman.
Fixed.
I had a dog named Shep when I was a kid. He got run over by a furniture truck when we were playing football in the street. It was our fault, we moved quickly enough to avoid the truck but the dog has his back turned and didn't see it until it was too late. That was twenty years ago and it still makes me sad. Sorry, I'm off to find a glass some ice and a barrel of Maker's Mark.
Sorry. That kind of loss haunts us always.
I think it's a show to prove they actually (don't) care
I see that Roger Ailes has yet to perfect his soul-excision machine.
And in case you're not depressed enough, there's this.
Someone on the Young Turks noted that since this law went into effect the number of killings labeled "justifiable homicide" in Florida has gone up by 1/3. Does that seem to be a result one would seek if law and order were actually the goal? My guess: if the extra 1/3 dead are black or brown, then this law IS meeting Floridah's goals.
Not by 1/3, but by 300%. It quadrupled.
You're correct.I saw the segment again last night and realized I had heard it wrong.Came back here to correct and you beat me to it.Thank you.
news flash: guns DO kill people.
Handguns were DESIGNED to kill two legged…
The KKKops giving the gun back to fat boy breaks the chain of evidence.
Good work, KKKops.
Surely you weren't expecting proper procedure from Buford T. Justice & Co. were you?
You don't mind if I call you Shirley, do you?
Not securing or photographing the crime scene also muddies the waters. Not to mention, refusing to take testimony from witnesses is lacking just a tad of professionalism.
Chain, chain, chain: Chain of Fools…
If La Fatinator happened to lose that gun… no gun, no witness, no crime. I hope he holds onto it.
On the bright side, it's not bad to know there is at least one person at Faux that's almost a human being.
Mmm…. "almost" being the key word.
I'd like to give Shep props for recognizing what is fundamentally true, that at the heart of this criminal act is a kid, that children now must revisit the fear imposed upon generations before them, whose own generation represented hope that we were on our way to outgrowing our heritage of bigotry. If acknowledging this makes Shep human, it makes his peers look even more subhuman for letting perception of Other continue succumbing to the corrosive effect of fear, wherein young men or women of color themselves become dehumanized for the sake of keeping that banner of Fear propped up.
Keep barking about your pet peeve with abortions, conservatwats, while miscarriages of justice continue unabated.
Shep refuses to be a Shemp.
Woah, woah. Throw in a little Don Lemon Thinks CNN is Full of Crap, and Anderson Cooper is Sick of Your Shit and we could have an awesome, angry, gay journalist three-way.
Well, gay for pay for two of them, I guess.
Geraldo Rivera also began his career as a reasonbably competent reporter.
That's not how I remember him. I always thought he was slimy.
He did report on the shit going on at the Willowbrook State School. I'll give him that. But, other than that, he's not done anything of value since then.
He refused to accept Memphis authorities' declaration that their King, Elvis, had died of a "completely natural" heart attack. Maybe someone else would have taken up the cause of investigating Elvis' conspicuous consumption of pharmaceuticals eventually, but I do believe Geraldo was the first to make a fuss and demand those very unpleasant autopsy results be made public.
And this, Star Wars nerds, is how you know there is no such thing as the Force. Emperor Ailes would have Darth-choked Shep years ago.
Shep looks bad…how sure are we Ailes isn't dealing with rogue journalists Putin-style? All Polonium accounted for?
There's apparently some dispute about who was yelling 'helphelphelp'? Did he insinuate it was the poor guy with the gun? That makes more sense when we're talking Fox, here.
Yes, some people are saying that. As in "Help! Help! I ran after a kid while waving a loaded gun, tackled him and he's fighting back for some reason!"
Well, the cop on the scene was telling witnesses that no, their lying eyes and ears are wrong, it was the guy with the gun yelling help. I guess the guy with the gun is also claiming that. Presumably therefore, all commenters at FreeRepublic and Red State are also stating as plain fact that it was definitely Zimmerman yelling "help"
Smith's treatment would lead a rational viewer with no preexisting knowledge of the case to believe that it was probably Trayvon who shouted help, so I don't have a problem with it.
If there is even a modicum of justice left in this world, some competent specialist at Quantico is trying to enhance the 911 tape and the information on Trayvon's phone. Idiots will believe what they want to believe but by the time this goes to some kind of court I don't think this issue will be in dispute.
Ummmmm, yeah. The guy with the loaded Niner only had ten years and 80 pounds on the kid, no wonder he would scream for help. Too bad for you we have voiceprint technology today, shit–stain!
There is at least one story going around that Zimmerman fired because Trayvon was on top of him, straddling him and punching him in the head. Seriously, I read that in the comments section of a story today – I think it was over at the Orlando Sentinel. I'm sure it will be taken as fact forever, even if Zimmerman himself confesses otherwise.
That is… really depressing.
Thanks Guppy for the depressing link. I'm going to cling to VT where we've always had the right to carry concealed weapons but where also people are held accountable if they kill with them.
I DO blame the police chief and police department. They should have arrested him and let the DA or a grand jury decide to prosecute. Let a judge set terms of bail. It's called justice.
Shep "Proudfoot" Smith had taken a mighty step in the proper direction, counter to Fox's toxic current. Let's hope he doesn't end up in Ailes wood chipper.
That's Proudfeet!
Silly me. I thought hoodies were traditional white apparel.
Shep, I would gay marry you anytime.
well done
The NRA does not approve of this message.
The NRA can kiss my black ass, is what they can do.
Honestly, this thing can go both ways. My brother jokingly said after hearing about this story that maybe he needs to buy himself a gun, you know, with how these new laws are and how it affects the society, and all…
As Johhny Cash's mother once said, "Don't take your guns to town, son…"
Wow…Coulter and Smith are voices for sanity…from the right! I'm markin' this day on the calendar.
How fitting the State House Monkey who pushed this Law through is a fucking Funeral Director. Cunt!
This isn't the first time he's crossed purposes with his masters, as you point out. The real question that keeps coming up (like a bad burger at bedtime) is WHY he continues to take a paycheck from people he knows are lying sacks of dung, on behalf of the Marie Antoinettes of Panem (see how I wedged in the youth vote there?) Maybe he thinks by staying on board the Ship of Fools he can right its course. If he really thinks that, he's a better man than I, Gunga Din.
I think he's the "balance" FOX talks about. "Biased, you say? But we have Shep Smith!"
For his part, maybe he figures if just a few wingnuts tune in to his show accidentally, he might be doing some good in the world.
Sometimes, they think they can carve out their own little subworld on their networks, and sometimes it works. Just look at Joe Scarborough and MSNBC.
"…and now we have the sponsor of that law" Best Segue Ever!
you guys, Fox Newz are entertainers, like Rush.
Kind of only tangetially related, but as this story has gotten more play in the media over the last week, some tone-deaf GOP motherfucker in the Michigan state senate is proposing the loosening of the already loose concealed carry laws in the state. I'll try and find the story, but they want to get rid of some "gun-free" zones.
We should lock all NRA members in a church and then cut the lights and see what happens…
Shep is there to give them cover when someone says they are the propaganda arm of the RNC. "Wait, we have an hour of actual new2s and everything. And MSNBC is evil."
I'm on a debate forum where a group of people that I normally consider to be sane are, for reasons unfathomable to me, arguing that Zimmerman was somehow justified in chasing down this unarmed, innocent kid. And here I see a FOX news anchor speaking truth.
Has the world gone mad?
Shep seems to have either lost a shitload of weight or he got a skinny haircut since the last time I didn't want to see him. But, as I vaguely (because of almost total not-caring) remember, he has strayed outside of the Floxstep in the past. There's hope for him yet.
When I lived in St. Augustine, a woman who lived downstairs chased her husband out into the street at 3:00 am… I watched out the window as she shot him twice with a pistol a minute before the police accidentally drove up and stopped. "I thought he was a big black dog!", she told them. Stand Your Ground!….
Big, black dogs are dangerous!
Did he have his tags on?
Mississippi's very first hate crime EVER:
http://articles.cnn.com/2012-03-21/justice/justic…
Why, back in the Good Ole Days, this was just some "good old boys" having fun…
Oh, Shep. I love you. I love you for calling out Ralph Nader for calling Obama an Uncle Tom, I love you for asking the GOP why they were against health care for 9/11 first responders, and, later, why they were against national health care for everyone, I love you for denouncing your own network's coverage of the Shirley Sherrod story, but most of all I love you for pounding the table and exclaiming, live on Fox News, "I don't give a rat's ass if it helps! We are America! WE DO NOT FUCKING TORTURE! We don't do it."
Shep, I don't know what dirt you must have on Murdoch and/or the other mucky mucks at Fox News to keep them from firing you, but I'm so glad you have it.
The disinformation editor must have been off that day.
Shep had better be careful, if he keeps up with this sort of thing he's going to find himself in a deep pit in the basement of Roger Ailes' house in upstate New York with Ailes standing at the edge of the pit yelling "It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again."
http://www.truthdig.com/cartoon/item/the_hoodie_2…
Geraldo blames the shooting on the young man wearing a hood, not the man carrying a freakin' handgun. This cartoon nails it!!
Ha ha, as if Fox had any foreign correspondents or overseas bureaus. There's a whole school of thought arguing that Hannity is merely a virtual reality construct connect to Ailes' Mac through a USB port at the base of his "spine."
Hannity looks inflated to me – like he's one of those blow-up Santas you see everywhere these days. Just project moving lips onto that sucker, and voila! virtual talking fathead.
That's not a USB port.
Thanks for my future nightmares, em.
Ah, yes, that's it! Too busy/lazy to use the Google Obsession Enabling Device. Thanks!! It looks nothing like an Eel, BTW and whatinthehell would an Eel be doing in a Desert, Eh?
Nerds, we are.
And, especially the Flesh suit. Can't forget that!
"My Nipples explode with Delight!"
You people really know what gets to me. This place is cool.
"whatinthehell would an Eel be doing in a Desert"
'Zactly!!
There are worse things than being a nerd.
"There are worse things than being a nerd."
'Zactly!
I ain't ashamed to be no Nerd, and there's things I'm Proud to say that I'm Not.
You are one of Us.
Do you want to come back to my place, bouncy bouncy?
"'Ere, now…I don't' think you're using that thing right…"
Drop your panties, Sir William, I cannot wait until lunchtime.
"If I said you had a beautiful body, would you hold it against me? I…I am no longer infected."
Is that a shadow on the blue moon: Asshole of Redemption?…okay, the rum is wearing off, but the other stuff is still working….
You might be thinking of a certain area of the Mariana Trench.
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