Fox News Not Really Interested In Reporting On Shooting Deaths Of Unarmed Black Teenagers

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!!! Must credit ANYONE BUT FOX !!!Fox News can generally be relied upon for a steady stream of artlessly jingoistic vomit, spewing forth from helmet-headed hairspray sacks who move their lips while reading important reports on hurricanes and other outrages against Heartland (= white, irrespective of actual location) America. What Fox usually fails at, though, is reporting on outrages against Urban (= black, etc.) America. (Kenneth Gladney excepted!) The latest such outrage to receive Fox News’ patented bitchy silent treatment is the unprovoked shooting death of Trayvon Martin, a black teenager who found himself in the wrong Florida neighborhood (you know, where his father lived), being hunted like prey — ALLEGEDLY but also PROBABLY — by a local paranoiac vigilante known for being “fixated on crime and focused on young, black males.” Hmm, that description… kind of sounds like every Fox scare-segment ever?

From Think Progress:

Since his tragic death on February 26, Trayvon Martin — an unarmed 17-year-old African-American shot by “neighborhood watch volunteer” George Zimmerman — has become national news. Martin, a good student with no criminal record, was killed by Zimmerman on his way home from the 7-11. Zimmerman was carrying a 9 millimeter handgun. Martin was carrying a bag of Skittles and a can of iced tea.

[...]

Martin has merited coverage by the New York Times, the Washington Post, and USA Today. The story has been covered by all three broadcast networks and extensively on cable. But there is one outlet that has barely mentioned Trayvon Martin — Fox News.

Indeed! The story is kind of a big deal on the Internet, as senseless and avoidable tragedies involving race and police work shoddy enough to warrant FBI monitoring tend to be.

But just how comparatively sparse has Fox’s coverage been? The liberal snobs at Think Progress helpfully added up how many segments the cable networks have so far devoted to the circumstances surrounding Trayvon Martin’s death.

CNN: 41
MSNBC: 13
Fox: 1

(1). One. Oooonnnnnne. To be clear. Again: 1.

Oh, and please note that Zimmerman’s claim of self-defense against his Skittles-wielding would-be assassin will likely rely on Florida’s 2005 “Stand Your Ground” law, an ongoing experiment in civic destruction that lets assholes off the hook for choosing to escalate (actual) dangerous situations, instead of just walking away and coming up with a witty retort a few hours later, like normal humans. So, yeah, go ahead and keep avoiding Florida, everyone. As for Fox, it will cover this terrible story of sadness just as soon as they figure out how the young black man — or President Obama — is to blame. [Think Progress; Miami Herald via TP; Christian Science Monitor]

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166 comments

    1. Dashboard_Jesus

      holy crap they haven't even ARRESTED this murdering SOB yet WTF?!

      "about 250,000 people have signed an online petition at change.org demanding the arrest of George Zimmerman, the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who shot Trayvon Martin"

    1. MegPasadena

      His father is white (Zimmerman is not a Spanish name) and his mother is Hispanic.
      They like to emphasize that he is not white to down play the race factor.
      But it's neither here or there.

  1. Barb

    Misleading: Fox News has run a mere 3 stories about foxes in its entire broadcasting history.

    Sorry, I can't find snark in this super sad story.

    1. user-of-owls

      Misleadingly Misleading: All three of those stories were making fun of Michael J. "Twitchy" Fox.

  2. coolhandnuke

    We had the Dan White "twinkie defense" after he murdered Harvey Milk.
    Now we'll get the "skittles defense" from any white Florida vigilante.

    1. Callyson

      Dan White had the decency to commit suicide, finally. Now, I'm not wishing for the death of the worthless bastard who shot this kid…

    2. CommieLibunatic

      I've heard of people being dakka'd to death by cops for brandishing cell phones and cameras, but Skittles takes the rainbow cake.

  3. edgydrifter

    Is Fox supposed to report every time somebody in Florida takes out the trash? Because in Rupert Murdoch's world, that's pretty much what happened here.

  4. BlueStateLibel

    "It would be racist to cover it." (Seriously, I can't for the life of me understand why this Zimmerman is not in jail; kudos to you, Florida, for being such a sack of rat poison.)

    1. MissTaken

      Fucking piece of shit. And you are correct. How the FUCK is this guy not in jail??

      “This guy looks like he’s up to no good or on drugs or something,’’ Zimmerman tells the dispatcher. “He’s a black male. Something’s wrong with him. He’s coming to check me out.”

      “Are you following him?’’ the dispatcher replies. “OK, we don’t need you to do that." http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/46781618/ns/today-t

    2. Texan_Bulldog

      This from the state that acquitted Casey Anthony. Is Nancy Grace's head going to explode about Trayvon? Something tells me…um…NO!

  5. Harry_S_Truman

    Roger Ailes: How many times do I have to tell you assholes? I only want missing blonde teenagers!

  6. Monsieur_Grumpe

    In the right hands a bag of Skittles and Mountain Dew can be a deadly weapon. NOT Skittles and iced tea.

    Awww shit, this ain't funny. Fuck FOX without the lube.

    1. FROTHY

      Sideways with a rusty chainsaw. Not to wish harm on anyone, but here's hoping Zimmerman's acquaintance with black males of the large and muscular variety is suddenly increased 2,000-fold. And him without his peter — I mean, gun.

      1. ElPinche

        I pray to moroni that Zimmerman's inner anal regions are machinegunned thoroughly with liquid zygote.

  7. MissTaken

    Ugh, I can't believe I'm going to say this but can we go back to Santorum? This whole story makes me sad.

    That poor kid mowed down by a dickless ass with a gun. Fucking horrible.

    1. SorosBot

      It's just sad, and makes me incredibly angry. Fuck I thought we were finally over the days of lynchings being ignored by the racist local cops, but no we apparently are not.

      Fuck the police.

      1. Loaded_Pants

        I think Mr. Zimmerman should probably avoid showing his fat face in the neighborhood where he killed a defenseless 17-yr-old.
        I'm not saying he should be killed. I'm just saying that some people in the neighborhood might not appreciate his efforts in protecting said neighborhood from dangerous walkin' funny, Skittles-possessin' unarmed 17-yr-olds.

        1. Fukui-sanYesOta

          The cockmonkeys in his neighbourhood seem to be changing their stories to back him up. Unconscionable bullshit.

          1. Negropolis

            It seems that local law enforcement is changing the neighbors' stories. There are quite a few neighbors that have been shaken by this, from what I hear, probably one of the only things that gives me a little hope in this tragedy.

    2. MissNancyPriss

      I have to turn the channel when this story comes on. I feel like I'll wither up and die if I hear anything more about it, I can't take it.

  8. RadioStalingrad

    Even though this will also go into the NRA statistics as a "Self Defense" use of a gun, you won't be hearing much about "if only that black young teenager was armed" bullshit they retort to any time there is a gun tragedy/murder.

    1. FROTHY

      No, of course not. It's only white folks that have Second Amendment rights. Remember how those gun rights folks reacted to the sight of armed Black Panthers? They'll be pissing their sissypants in terror.

    2. Biel_ze_Bubba

      It's exactlly what they'll be thinking — sort of: "If only that black kid had been armed, killing him would have been self-defense."

  9. PubOption

    Who thought up the idea of an armed neighborhood watch? Could they not see that it would attract exactly the George Zimmerman type? I would not be surprised to learn that Zimmerman had applied to join the police, but was rejected as too crazy.

    1. FROTHY

      In the neighbourhood's defense, they did not know he was armed and the police liaison who worked with them to set up the Neighbourhood Watch told them a bajillion times NOT to initiate any conflict, but to call the po-pos and let THEM handle it. This little Zimmerman prick took it into his own fucking head to do the vigilante number.

  10. BerkeleyBear

    I am 17 kinds of pissed off about this, and the emerging details just make it worse. This clod called 911 and got told not to engage, but decided to escalate and then kill an unarmed kid. And fucking local a-holes don't even arrest him. I don't know if he would actually be convicted by a bunch of crackers, but for the cops to make a "no harm, no foul" call when there's a body involved out in public is fucking insane. I am really hoping the pro staff at the DOJ finds a way to level charges at this guy, the cops on scene and their bosses before it is over and the NAACP or Southern Poverty Law Center bankrupts them all so the next time a dumbass with a gun and a lot of time on his hands starts stalking black kids, the cops take some preventative measures – like maybe seeing about if he really should have a handgun license/driver's license or be walking around without heavy medication.

    1. Missyb9479

      I'm not saying the cops aren't terrible. They are. But their hands are somewhat tied by Stand Your Ground. Which is maybe the worst law in the history of Florida (home of some terrible laws). How poorly written is this law? Two gangs meet up on the street and have a shootout. The ones that don't get killed are found legally immune from prosecution because of Stand Your Ground. It doesn't matter that they came to the fight. There is no duty to flee and no rule about not being the aggressor. If Martin took a swing at Zimmerman (and, honestly, if some weird dude was following me for the last few blocks and then got out to chase me down, you better believe I'd try to kick his ass) then Zimmerman could shoot him. The law doesn't use an objective standard of reasonableness. It's subjective. If he believes that he was in danger then he can use deadly force. Which leads to a charming bit of circular logic where if you reasonably believe you are in danger then you can shoot. And if you shot then you must have reasonably thought you were in danger.

      Florida is the first state to pass Stand Your Ground, but a bunch more (17 or 19) have followed. So, who is more foolish. The fool that passes a dumb law orthe other dozen and a half states that follow him.

      (P.S. I had an interview for an internship with Voldemort's/Rick Scott's office a few months ago and was asked to bring in a sample policy paper. Mine was on why Stand Your Ground was terrible,written in a pro-law and order way since police and prosecutors both hate the law. They took one look at it and then shuffled me out of there as quickly as possible. Meanwhile, Charlie Christ asked for a special session to repeal the law a few years ago, before his party decided to take a right turn off the cliff of logic)

      1. snoopyfan2010

        Using that logic if Martin happened to have a gun and shot Zimmerman when he chased him, he would have been innocent too?

        1. Missyb9479

          Yep. It's really the wild west. There is no duty to retreat. No duty to not escalate. There was a case in Leon County in 2008 where these kids in a gang ended up in a shootout with each other. The ones who didn't die in the gunfight were legally found to be immune from prosecution under Stand Your Ground.

          In the decision the trial court judge said "The law would appear to allow a person to seek out an individual, provoke him into a confrontation, then shoot and kill him if he goes for his gun." Remember, the statute uses a subjective standard so "goes for his gun" could also be "moves his hand to where I assume he has a gun because he's black".

          And, as an extra bonus, if Zimmerman is found immune under stand your ground he is also legally barred from any civil penalties from a wrongful death suit. And if Martin's family tries to bring a civil suit and it gets dismissed because of this immunity then they have to pay Zimmerman's attorney fees.

          1. snoopyfan2010

            I hate to be so negative but this law is set up to encourage gun violence by ensuring immunity for the killer. And it is based on the assumption of who is most likely to have a gun and need to defend themselves. By the same token, a gang member could say he shot a police man because he feared for his life. I am assuming that this law does not provide for exceptions like that.Couldn't the parents of the kid that was shot wait to see how the investigation goes before filing the civil suit to avoid having to pay?

          2. Missyb9479

            The law was pushed by the NRA. They have had it on their agenda for years but Florida was the first state to try it out. And it has resulted in a marked increase in "justifiable" homicide in the state. An average of two a week. The law does have a law enforcement exception. So you can't shoot a cop. I'm pretty sure that includes undercover cops.

            The family should totally wait. Just giving a preview of the next round of outrage. I've already read some bloggers talking about how if the criminal courts don't give them justice they can still go to civil court. You'd think so. But not in Florida.

          3. BerkeleyBear

            So the brilliant state of Florida is letting any private citizen use deadly force in circumstances that would lead to a trained police officer losing his job and a long stretch in the pen. This, along with every stupid state adopting looser and looser concealed carry laws, is really what will bring out society to a screeching halt. If we all think others are armed and even a few knuckleheads take the Bush Doctrine as their personal philosophy, you'll have shit that people used to laugh about (or make low budget dystopian road movies about) in just a few years. Machine guns and rocket launchers for everyone. Yee Haw!

            But that's the beauty of the DOJ being in the hands of professionals, whose political bosses aren't in the pocket of the NRA – a big bright light can be shined on this bullshit law and, maybe, in the process, some small measure of justice can be done.

          4. snoopyfan2010

            What a mess! This can't end well. It almost pushes people towards vigilante justice. I can see families of victims saying that they were denied justice and trying to get it on their own. It also seems to favor agitating certain groups without consequence. If someone wanted to chase immigrant groups out of Florida, they could try to instigate fights with them that they know would end in violence. Has there been even a single case where the stand your ground rule didn't work? It sounds like it is the first defense for a lot of people.

          5. sullivanst

            It kind of seems to me like if the family armed themselves and "encountered" Zimmerman, confronted him and he twitched – they certainly have reason to believe he's armed. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, no?

            So basically Florida has legalized murder. Smooth move.

          6. snoopyfan2010

            Sounds like they did. I hope none of those scenarios actually happen. Thou shalt not kill, etc…

    2. Biel_ze_Bubba

      Got "Hate Crime" written all over it… you can be the Feds will roast this cretin, especially if the local yokels let him off with "illegal discharge of a firearm" (if there's even such a thing in Florida.)

      1. dadanarchist

        My expectation is that Florida won't be able to prosecute (for the reasons outlined above by Missyb9479) but that with the outcry and now the presence of the FBI, the Feds will bring charges that Zimmerman violated Martin's civil rights (the same method that was, ultimately, used to go after the murderers of Chaney, Goodman and Schwerner in Mississippi in 1964).

        This is why, basically, the equation states rights = racism is spot on and, Also too, why Glibtards like Rand Paul are flaming racist douches.

        What would be icing on the cake is that somehow, in the course of prosecuting Zimmerman, Stand Your Ground gets overturned by a higher court. Unlikely, of course, but a boy can dream, right?

    3. memzilla

      You know, I have turned into such a racist now, old white guy that I am.

      Anytime I see a white person on C-SPAN with an [R] (or [R]-ish) chyron below his head, my first thought is "racist corporate-tool wingtard."

      Anytime I see someone with a [D] (or [D]-ish) chyron below his head, my first thought is "probably sane." The more melanin I see the person has, the saner I think they probably are.

      Anytime I see a crowd of people at a rally for any [R], my first thought is "deluded racist wingtards."

      Racizm. I haz it.

  11. anniegetyerfun

    That's one more instance of reporting than I assumed would come from them on this particular story.

    1. Biel_ze_Bubba

      I believe the news item was "Liberal MSM exploits unfortunate accident for political reasons."

  12. SorosBot

    Fox will say this is Obama's fault for presidenting while black, giving other black folk the idea that they're full citizens with rights who can expect to walk to the store in a rich neighborhood.

  13. Not_So_Much

    I just saw their screen at the gym finally reporting on it a few minutes ago. But they were careful to show that the shooter was brown too. So, you know, nothing to see here.

    1. anniegetyerfun

      Not just brown, but SPANISH speaking brown. So, you see, Rick Santorum is right to force everyone to never speak the language of el gato.

      1. AbandonHope

        I see where the narrative is heading. Tomorrow: "Is George Zimmerman an illegal Messian? Random speculation we pulled out of our ass and James O'Keefe say YES."

        (Allegedly.)

  14. Callyson

    Although, we might be better off if FOX stays away. I can hear the opener to story #2 now:
    "Coming up next: Liberals are trying yet again to play the racial card! Will they blame this on George W Bush too?"
    Assholes.

    1. anniegetyerfun

      Woah, woah, woah. It's already been proven that this kid was Walking While Black. It's that's not provocation, I don't know is.

  15. luckismine

    I've moved beyond wanting Zimmerman arrested. I want the police fired and tried for violation of civil rights.

      1. luckismine

        If Holder can deliver on this, I will forgive him for all other failures during his tenure.

  16. Boojum_Reborn

    I'm sure the one story from Faux was along the lines of "We have a developing story. A neighborhood watch hero in Florida heroically saved an entire community from a marauding black thug, who was reportedly large and dangerously violent. There is no information yet on whether or how much crack or PCP this alleged felon had smoked, prior to invading this peaceful neighborhood. We will get back to you with more updates on this vindication of the Second Amendment right to bear arms."

  17. BarackMyWorld

    Only 13 on MSNBC? How many were on Al Sharpton's show, or are they counting Sharpton devoting his whole program to the story to be 1 segment each?

    1. Jukesgrrl

      Melissa Harris Perry spoke eloquently and angrily about it on her Saturday program. She brought me to tears when she said, "His name is Trayvon Martin. When innocent children are killed, when their parents are left to wonder if their children's lives matter at all, at least we can remember their names." Giving viewers an example of why we needed a program from an African-American mother. Oh, and elitist … I always forget that part.

  18. HarryButtle

    I heard the 911 call earlier…after being told by the 911 dispatcher not to follow the suspicious blah man/child, Zimmerman actually chased Martin down so that he could shoot him. Regardless of some dumbass "stand your ground" law, how the fuck is that construed as self-defense?

    1. reliefsinn

      No way, and fuck these people with the proverbial rusty chainsaw, sideways, for letting this guy get away with it. How the fuck can someone be a threat to anyone when they are standing there pleading for their lives? That is just the worst thing I have ever listened to, we are doomed as a race, just doomed.

  19. C_R_Eature

    We have to remember that FOX is a business, too in addition to its primary mission as the Communications arm of the Republican Party. They're just playing to their demographic.
    Middle-Aged White males and Retiree couples just aren't interested in dead black teenagers unless they're shot while conducting a B&E with intent to Rape by a Plucky young Blonde NRA member exercising her 2nd Amendment Rights.
    Nielson ratings are important.

    That's all the Snark I can muster for this.

    1. Dudleydidwrong

      He'll never go to prison. This is Florida, where being certifiably crazy is the first criterion for getting a concealed carry license. Being white is the second criterion.

  20. Lionel[redacted]Esq

    FOX News has a point. Since Mr. Zimmerman shoved something up his ass before aborting Mr. Martin, this was strictly by the book.

  21. Lionel[redacted]Esq

    Have some sympathy for FOX News. After all, if they started covering this story, would they have time to cover the fact that the President once hugged a black man, and went to a play!!!

  22. arihaya

    Like some op-ed I've read, this is not a case of self-defense. This is open hunting season of blah men in Florida

  23. deelzebub

    Just went to visit the grandparents-in law in Naples. It's like a whole different world down there. Face lifts, diamond rings the size of meteors, gated communities, and FOX NEWS on every single TV. Except when she turned on the Bulls game, I didn't think Carol's TV got any other channel. I'm sure her and her friends would view a skittles wielding "urban youth" as a threat against their very way of life (that being doing nothing but golf, shop, and drink all day). I was more than ready to haul my liberal pinko common ass back home to Illinois. Florida people are weird.

      1. deelzebub

        The sad thing is, they both grew up poor-him poor, minority, abused, and adopted- and could not have "forgotten where they came from" more if they tried. He did they whole pull yourself up by your bootstraps thing back in a era where the American Dream still existed, but left giving a shit about the welfare of others behind as soon as he got within reach of the plutocracy.

    1. comrad_darkness

      Thanks to all the carbon they've produced over their cushy lifespans the damn state will be a straits in a century. No worries.

    2. DemmeFatale

      That's how I felt when I extricated my mother from "The Villages."
      What a bunch of entitled, mean-spirited, paranoid, anger-management cases!
      Hateful to the core. I was glad to get mom out of that toxic environment.
      I've never been happier to leave a place.

    3. Dashboard_Jesus

      and here I thought Naples was so cosmopolitan (oh THAT Naples, home of rich white Midwestern snowbirds/ assholes)

  24. dadanarchist

    FOX is dithering on how to cover this story.

    On the one hand, they could go with the MOAR GUNZ angle ("if Trayvon were armed, he could have returned fire and had a pony"), but that won't work, because then it's OMG NIGRAS WITH GUNZ!!!! NEW BLACK BLACK BLACKITY BLACK PANTHERZ!

    On the other hand, Black Obama Osama bin Halal bin Saddam bin Hussein bin El-Satan is trying to take away R GUNZ and FREEDOM, but here clearly is a case of a GUNZ toting Heartland Amurikan Freedom-Citizen exercising is Jebus-gibbin' Second Amendment Rights, and that ended with a child getting gunned down for spiting that Harpy Michelle Obama's health fud fascism and participating in every Amurikkkan's favorite past time, Junk Food and Capitalism.

    So you can see it's better for them to just leave it alone.

  25. OC_Surf_Serf

    On my 405 boxing match, er , commute, some media fuckwad on NPR was wondering aloud if the media would have covered this if it was "just black on black crime"…he got me so dizzy that I had to pull over for a few minutes…

    1. Biel_ze_Bubba

      Because black people go hunting other black people all the time, and shoot them for being black in their neighborhood. Got it.

    2. Dashboard_Jesus

      one more reason why I'm no longer an NPR contributor…they became Nice Polite Republicans during the Cheney admin and haven't looked back…

  26. johnnyzhivago

    I'm sure if Fox ran more than one story on this, it would be even more infuriating…

    Everytime I see this story I remember I have a 17 year old kid….

    1. FROTHY

      I just hope to TPTB that your kid is whiter than white. I have two stepkids, and they're part BLAH and one of them looks it. The other one not so much. I've been terrified for the older one since the store guards first followed him around in Macy's — they didn't follow his little brother.

      1. johnnyzhivago

        Yeah, he's pale like his old man.

        A few years ago, for work I did a lot of traveling in Europe with a co-worker who was an Asian (Japanese) (gay – although I doubt this was relevent) male. It became incredibly obvious and very shocking to me as I was constantly waved through all manner of security, customs, etc checkpoints and he was harassed, delayed, questioned, checked and re-checked. Oh, yeah, he was also a Harvard Law School graduate, which I am not – more your nerdy marketing/engineer type.

        1. Man0nTheStreet

          The Asian guy represented The Yellow Peril, but you nerdy marketing guys are just the Banality of Evil…

  27. imissopus

    Fox will start covering it more if the DOJ gets involved because OMG ERIC HOLDER AND NOBAMA ARE ALWAYS MAKING RACE AN ISSUE THE BIG RACISTS!!!!1!!

    This is the first article I've actually read about this story. I've seen headlines and been avoiding them out of fear I would become enraged, and lo and behold, I am now enraged.

    1. Designer_Rants

      Me too, re: 1st article read about this. I remember seeing a NYTimes headline come across my Google Reader and thinking, "I'm pissed enough today." before skipping it.

    2. bikerlaureate

      Officials with the [Sanford Police] department have said in public statements that they lack sufficient evidence to disprove Zimmerman’s accounting of the events and have passed the case on to the state’s attorney. Neither office returned phone calls from The Post requesting comment Monday.

      - WaPo

      1. Biel_ze_Bubba

        Dallas police did the same thing with Lee Harvey Oswald, right? Let him go, because they had nothing to disprove his version of events.

  28. poorgradstudent

    To be honest I thought they'd play up the angle that Zimmerman and Martin had some kind of shoving match before Zimmerman pulled out his gun and try to vindicate him with that, so…uh, kudos FOX for not being exactly as horrible about this disgusting incident as I expected (for now)?

  29. PubOption

    The conversation between Zimmerman and the police dispatcher was played on the CBS news tonight. I think that Zimmerman's last reply was missing, so I filled it in.
    Dispatcher: Are you chasing him?
    Zimmerman: Yes
    Dispatcher: We don't want you to do that.
    Zimmerman: You talkin' to me? You talkin' to ME?

  30. Texan_Bulldog

    But God forbid a couple black guys stand outside a polling place. Jeez….BLACK PANTHERS ARE SCARING OLD WHITE PEOPLE!!!!1!!!!1!

  31. rocktonsam

    FOXNEWZ CAN'T GIVE ENOUGH PERSONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE SOLIDER WHO WENT ON THE SPREE. IN GETHEFUCKOUTOFDAFGANASTAN now.

    FOURTH TOUR , HARD TO BELIEVE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN MORE.

    GTFO

    fuck them assholes

      1. FROTHY

        I'm in a country where people don't scream in public unless they're stinking drunk, apparently. If I were at home in my house upon the hill, I would be screaming my lungs out right now.

  32. nirrti_rachelle

    This is shades of Emmett Til all over again along with Oscar Grant. There's no way around it. It's simply illegal in this country to be a young black man. His actions don't even matter anymore. It's enough that he's a young black man who doesn't "know his place." The republicans wanted a throwback to the 1950s. Well, they got it. SMFH

    1. valthemus

      A black man gets elected president, and things like this still happen. You have to wonder: What does it take to get strangers to stop looking at you like you're a criminal?

    2. Hunny_Pot

      Actually this is a lot like Latasha Harlins, right down to the non-black minority offender who obviously couldn't possibly be racist (/sarcasm). The 21st anniversary of that murder just passed and it is sad that in 21 years not much has changed. At least the defendant then was arrested (although given only probation for the murder of an innocent teenager) so if anything things have gotten worse.

      1. Fukui-sanYesOta

        I hadn't heard about that case.

        Goddamn.

        Du reached under the counter to retrieve a handgun. Du then fired at Harlins from behind at a distance of about three feet and shot her in the back of her head, killing her instantly.

        On November 15 1991 the jury found Du guilty of voluntary manslaughter with a 16-year prison sentence recommendation, believing that Du's shooting was fully within her control and she fired the gun voluntarily. The presiding judge, Joyce Karlin reduced the sentence to probation of five years, four hundred hours of community service, and a $500.00 fine.

        1. Negropolis

          You ever seen the video? It is stunning in the worst way.

          Something similar happened here in Detroit a week or so ago when a black customer at a gas station was arguing with the Arab clerk about the price of some condoms. Mind you, like in most gas stations in Detroit, the clerk is behind bulletproof glass…but that doesn't even matter because the guy wasn't armed nor did he threaten him with violence. Anyway, as the pissed dude is leaving the store, he purposefully tips over some merchandise, but he's leaving the store nonetheless. The clerk comes from behind the glass, shoots the customer in the back. The guy dies at the hospital.

          This stuff happens way more than people think it does.

  33. Tundra Grifter

    According to Frances Robles of the Miami Herald (just saw and heard her interviewed on PBS), this "self defense" crap isn't working out so good.

    Drug dealers are shooting it out with innocent bystanders (the only kind) getting wounded or killed. The dealers pled they thought their lives were in danger (which is probably quite true) – so they are not prosecuted.

    Thank you gun nutz everywhere for such a great law! Concealed weapons my ass. We've tried this Second Amendment shit and it just doesn't work in modern society. The Constitution isn't perfect. We dumped slavery. Women got the right to vote. Black folks became full citizens.

    Now we need to get rid of the guns.

  34. FROTHY

    White Privilege. You can bet your booty, if he was black he'd be in jail, no bail.

    Shit, I got arrested for fucking JAYWALKING and was told I had committed a NON-BAILABLE offense.

  35. Negropolis

    It is so very hard for me to snark on this. I've almost had anxiety attacks listening to the tapes, because it hits so close to home. What bothers me is that things never change, this never ends, that good people of conscience are always having to fight something they shouldn't have to fight. This is such an incredibly blatant murder (and most likely a hate crime), that anyone is having to literally beg local law enforcement to do anything is appalling and should absolutely horrify people. Our guns laws are INSANE, and it's why I'm sometimes pushed from simply being a Second Amendment skeptic, to wishing that it was straight-out done away with, because if this nation has shown nothing else, it's that it can't handle handgun possession.

    This is why America can't have nice things; this is why America shouldn't have nice things until we come to grips with a society in ALL levels so fucking paranoid that it's literally killing itself and has been for decades.

  36. valthemus

    "…Florida’s 2005 'Stand Your Ground' law, an ongoing experiment in civic destruction that lets assholes off the hook for choosing to escalate (actual) dangerous situations, instead of just walking away and coming up with a witty retort a few hours later, like normal humans."

    OF COURSE YOU'RE GONNA STAND YOUR GROUND AND ESCALATE!!! LIKE ANY FUCKING MANLY MAN WOULD!!! THEN YOU GRAB SOME BOTTLES OF BEER, BITE THE TOPS OFF AND DRINK WITH YOUR BUDDIES 'TIL YOU PUKE! (Assuming you haven't died a manly moron's death.)

    I swear, when I first heard about "Stand Your Ground" I thought it was some misplaced bit of snarky satire.

  37. The_Trainman

    Too bad the murderer in Florida wasn't a military man, then he might have Fox and other corporate news media implying excuses for what he did. Reuse any of the popular headlines being published about Robert Bales the "troubled" war hero who just murdered 16 Afghanistan civilians. I guess that kind of damage control isn't needed as the target population in Florida is already subdued.

  38. redarmyzombie

    You know what's sad, is fact that he was suspended from school will probably be twisted into an indictment of character by these wingnuts. That and the fact that he's black, of course.

    1. redarmyzombie

      Good fucking God, I just went to look this up on some different site, and plastered right above it was an ad for some conceal/carry gun rights group.

      Classy, internet. Real fucking classy.

    2. dinkybossetti

      It has been. Even though the suspension was apparently due to being tardy too many times, at least one commenter at foxnews.com has indicated this is evidence of his "gang-banging."

  39. LemonySnicket

    I hate my state. I hate Faux News, too… but nowhere near as much as I hate Florida.

  40. ttommyunger

    My considerable life experience leads me to suspect this youngster prolly taunted the pathetic wannabee shooter thus provoking the deadly response. I'm guessing there is no way he could pass a polygraph, most likely will refuse one. Without a living witness this is going to be a tough one to prosecute considering white on black crime is always a misdemeanor in the Land of the Flaccid Phallus. 'Course I'm only assuming the shooter is white based on the fact that he hasn't been arrested and it's been over a month since the shooting, amirite?

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