CHILDREN HAVING CHILDREN HAVING CHILDREN  2:55 pm February 23, 2012

Santorum: Contraception Is Evil Because This Racist Author Said So

by Liz Colville

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During Wednesday night’s debate in some temporarily politically relevant zone of America, Rick Santorum defended his belief that contraception is dangerous and the cause, as opposed to the solution, to social problems like single motherhood and attendant issues e.g. poverty, but not zygotes, because they are not a problem but are excellent in every imaginable scenario. To bolster his claims, Mr. Rick invoked the thoughts and somehow not self-published words of Charles Murray, an author widely considered to be racist, or at the very, very least, severely blinkered, deranged and stuck in antebellum times. Murray is the author of a book called “The Bell Curve,” which apparently “argues that black people score lower on IQ tests because they are genetically inferior to whites.” Yes, truly shocking, Santorum’s interest in this “theory.” In that book, Murray and his co-author also conducted “research” “showing” that the average IQ of African Americans is 85, while the average IQ of whites is 103 and the average IQ of Hispanics is 89.

During the debate Santorum justified his fandom of this guy, who just released another book called “Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010,” by saying that he was featured “on the front page” of the New York Times last week. Murray was also mentioned in a February op-ed piece by Ross Douthat in which Douthat calls the new book, which is apparently less scandalous than “The Bell Curve,” but still sucky, “exasperating,” full of “impractical” ideas, and “entirely divorced from American political realities,” just like our tighty-whitey pseudo-frontrunner Rick. (There is also this much more thorough takedown of the book by former W. speechwriter David Frum.)

Santorum’s whole thing is “children be having children,” and it is incredibly amusing that he thinks that contraception somehow ENHANCES/INCREASES American children’s likelihood of begetting their own children. One could also say his interest in this book just proves once again that Rick Santorum doesn’t care about blah people or anyone else except wha people, because, hi, Title of Book. [ThinkProgress]

 
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nounverb911 February 23, 2012 at 2:58 pm

Is Santorum's lawyer wearing a bullet proof face?

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 4:39 pm

A splatter shield.

starfanglednut February 23, 2012 at 9:23 pm

Ha!

Why does this comment not have more upfisties?

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 9:45 pm

I dunno, baby. Everybody's in bed?

Pragmatist2 February 23, 2012 at 3:03 pm

Bernie Madoff was "featured on the front page of the New York Times." More than once, as I recall.

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 4:39 pm

Jack Abramoff and Scooter Libby, also, too.

LetUsBray February 23, 2012 at 5:29 pm

C'mon, people, it's been two hours. But I guess it's up to me:

You know who ELSE was featured on the front page of the New York Times?

starfanglednut February 23, 2012 at 9:24 pm

Jeffrey Dahmer, also also too.

OzoneTom February 23, 2012 at 3:03 pm

If "research" says it then it must be true.

nounverb911 February 23, 2012 at 3:06 pm

It's only true if it's in the Bible.

OneDollarJuana February 23, 2012 at 3:17 pm

"Research" isn't in the Bible. But "fool" is!

Psalm 38:5
"My wounds stink and are corrupt because of my foolishness. "

The stink of santorum. The corruption of the right-wing.

starfanglednut February 23, 2012 at 9:26 pm

Why, it's almost as if one could find a statement supporting just about any position in the bible.

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 9:47 pm

Imagine that!

Terry February 23, 2012 at 3:18 pm

It's only true if it matches exactly Old Rick's firmly held ideas.

SorosBot February 23, 2012 at 3:11 pm

Unless of course that research is actually backed by thorough evidence, like evolution, climate change or the big bang and galaxy formation.

elviouslyqueer February 23, 2012 at 3:26 pm

Tsk. Sounds like someone needs to take a refresher course at the Creation Museum.

starfanglednut February 23, 2012 at 9:27 pm

Now none of that kind of talk sb, or jesus will trample you on his dinosaur.

BaldarTFlagass February 23, 2012 at 3:27 pm

Unless it's climate change "research." Then it's bullshit.

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 4:40 pm

More likely if it was RE/Search.

nounverb911 February 23, 2012 at 3:03 pm

Santorum’s whole thing is “children be having children,”
Why does Santorum hate Bristol Palin?

IceCreamEmpress February 23, 2012 at 3:09 pm

Honestly, that's my one point of agreement with him.

Barb February 23, 2012 at 3:14 pm

Once you pull out of Bristol, everyone hates her.

flamingpdog February 23, 2012 at 3:22 pm

YIKES, Barb, I'm eating lunch! In order to pull out of Bristle, you have to push into Bristle, and that thought doesn't go well with lunch.

BaldarTFlagass February 23, 2012 at 3:26 pm

Probably more like fall into. If she had as many sticking out of her as she's had stuck into her, she'd look like a porcupine.

Barb February 23, 2012 at 8:24 pm

Sorry Flaming, I owe you a nice lunch.

starfanglednut February 23, 2012 at 9:31 pm

For some reason, this gives me a mental picture of santorum and bristol in a tent, making out and drinking wine coolers. I think I'll go kill myself now.

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 9:48 pm

Don't DO THAT, I need you! How will I survive this fucking election otherwise?

Geez, talk about selfish.

Chillwillard February 23, 2012 at 3:03 pm

Rick should go hunting with Cheney.

weej_bain February 23, 2012 at 3:03 pm

Frothy Rick gives a whole new meaning to the skeet term "pull". Yep he do.

hagajim February 23, 2012 at 4:25 pm

Is that "skeet" term, or skat term?

Indiepalin February 23, 2012 at 3:03 pm

Hoo ha. They should call him "Dick" Santorum

nounverb911 February 23, 2012 at 3:06 pm

Does he have one?

chicken_thief February 23, 2012 at 4:00 pm

He has unlimited access to his boyfriend's, so ya. Sort of.

DaRooster February 23, 2012 at 3:04 pm

I truly wish Rick's parents had used contraceptives… damn it.

How about a159th trimester abortion?

FlownOver February 23, 2012 at 3:05 pm

Their mutual respect is based on their shared enjoyment of undergoing transvaginal ultrasound.

gullywompr February 23, 2012 at 3:06 pm

You know who else had racist ideas about birthing babies?

Indiepalin February 23, 2012 at 3:09 pm

Olivia Newton-Urinal?

nounverb911 February 23, 2012 at 3:10 pm

Strom Thurmond?

Shellwith2Ls February 23, 2012 at 3:10 pm

Margaret Mitchell?

Geminisunmars February 23, 2012 at 3:11 pm

Butterfly McQueen?

Bonzos_Bed_Time February 23, 2012 at 3:15 pm

Juan McCain?

ifthethunderdontgetya February 23, 2012 at 3:16 pm

Old Mother Hubbard?
~

weej_bain February 23, 2012 at 3:18 pm

Kingfish and Sapphire Stevens? Iffin' Frothy wants to go back to Saint Ronnie's America of nickle Cokes 'n such.

BaldarTFlagass February 23, 2012 at 3:23 pm

Holy Mack'l dere!

SorosBot February 23, 2012 at 3:23 pm

The Dugggars?

sezme February 23, 2012 at 3:40 pm

Good question! And not to state the obvious, but you know who else was featured on the front page of the New York Times?

gullywompr February 23, 2012 at 4:04 pm

Thomas E. Dewey?

Fare la Volpe February 23, 2012 at 4:11 pm

Ted Bundy?

Generation[redacted] February 23, 2012 at 3:55 pm

The Boys From Brazil?

chicken_thief February 23, 2012 at 4:02 pm

Thomas Jefferson?

yyyaz February 23, 2012 at 4:15 pm

Dr. Cecil Jacobson?

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 4:42 pm

Scarlett O'Hara?

GOPCrusher February 23, 2012 at 5:34 pm

Dr. Moreau?

elburritodeluxe February 23, 2012 at 3:09 pm

Got to admire the way he hits all the bases…

DrOzarkZ.Hellbender February 23, 2012 at 4:19 pm

And the GOP base is the basest base there is.

TeaNuts February 23, 2012 at 3:09 pm

And the average IQ of the Repulicant Party is 44!

nounverb911 February 23, 2012 at 3:12 pm

I like the number 44 make it 43.

tessiee February 24, 2012 at 1:22 am

43, same as Duhbya.

BigDumbRedDog February 23, 2012 at 3:31 pm

No, that is the sum of all of their IQ's. Don't worry, it's an easy mistake to make.

TeaNuts February 23, 2012 at 3:36 pm

(G)oobers (O)nly (P)lease!

Lascauxcaveman February 23, 2012 at 4:25 pm

He mentions average white IQ at 103. But he forgot the Asians: 128.

Suck it, whitey.

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 4:43 pm

I was gonna say that.

starfanglednut February 23, 2012 at 9:35 pm

Great minds, Z. Great minds.

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 9:50 pm

Thankyew!

SudsMcKenzie February 23, 2012 at 3:09 pm

Can we just leave him out in the woods?

BaldarTFlagass February 23, 2012 at 3:10 pm

Your move, David Duke.

ManchuCandidate February 23, 2012 at 3:10 pm

But… white people aren't making babies faster than tinted people (and freaks like the Duggars or Kate Gosselin don't count.)

So, basically the racist author of "Big Dong Dumb Blacks, Very Smart Teeny Weenie Asians and Not too dumb and not too hung Whites" is self defeating the "white" race.

snoopyfan2010 February 23, 2012 at 4:23 pm

And that right there is the whole issue. Actually I heard the size of the brain isn't the issue. It is how they use it. Smart can still be very dumb when mixed with infantile selfishness.

gullywompr February 23, 2012 at 3:10 pm

Santorum is not OK.

elburritodeluxe February 23, 2012 at 3:10 pm

Fareed Zakaria also spoke about the book at the end of his latest GPS show, saying it was problematic but very interesting.

Mumbletypeg February 23, 2012 at 3:18 pm

"Fareed Zakaria …saying it was problematic but very interesting."

Adorable, Fareed: your assessment of this cesspool of flawed assertions is diplomatic but very euphemistic.

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 4:45 pm

I wish he'd grow a testicle or an ovary or sump'n. He's not stupid but he's swallowed so much shit in order to hold his job that it's stinking up the environment.

DrOzarkZ.Hellbender February 23, 2012 at 4:23 pm

If you want some real laughs, try searching "Fareed Zakaria traitor."

My favorite headline on that topic: "Obama Muslim adviser Fareed Zakaria says the death tax should be 50 percent"

starfanglednut February 23, 2012 at 9:38 pm

Oh, fer fucks sake.

arihaya February 23, 2012 at 6:39 pm

interesting as in .. car wreck

Negropolis February 24, 2012 at 2:30 am

Zakaria has always maddened me. He's one of those immigrants so in love with the country he's chosen as home, that he's afraid to offer criticism of its culture without also including love for the culture, whether it is relevant to the discussion of not. He skirts too close to neo-con foreign policy for my tastes, and it sometimes drips down into his views on domestic issues.

Wilcoxyz February 23, 2012 at 3:10 pm

Coming Apart does sound like a contraception plan, but not a desirable one. Except to some fundie "white" types, I guess.

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 4:46 pm

I think you just put me in the mood for some late Beatles.

starfanglednut February 23, 2012 at 9:39 pm

When I get to the bottom I go back to the top of the slide
Where I stop and I turn and I go for a ride
Till I get to the bottom and I see you again.

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 9:52 pm

I was thinking more like Come Together, but Helter Skelter is a nice song to do a little murderin' to.

starfanglednut February 23, 2012 at 9:56 pm

I chose these lyrics because they made me think of birth control (topic of the month). But then, I am a pervert, and also somewhat psychotic.

Swampgas_Man February 23, 2012 at 6:23 pm

Just Pull Out.

lulzmonger February 23, 2012 at 3:11 pm

Rick Santorum is … The Billionaire Whisperer!

Oh, wait, that's actually ALL of them, isn't it?

BlackRhino February 23, 2012 at 3:11 pm

“Coming Apart”? Whites aren’t coming apart, their coming together… with the browns …and enjoying it. Just ask Lawrence O'Donnell.

Guppy February 23, 2012 at 3:44 pm

So… miscegenation leads to mutual orgasm?

BlackRhino February 23, 2012 at 3:52 pm

And cute little brown babies, to the consternation Santorum.

BaldarTFlagass February 23, 2012 at 3:57 pm

The darker the berry, the sweeter the juice…

Fare la Volpe February 23, 2012 at 4:14 pm

Is that why I want to make sweet sweet love to Aisha Tyler?

Swampgas_Man February 23, 2012 at 6:24 pm

Save Grace Jones for me!

BaldarTFlagass February 23, 2012 at 3:13 pm

With all this "babies having babies" talk, I wonder what his policy would be if a fetus had an unwanted pregnancy while still in utero.

kissawookiee February 23, 2012 at 4:06 pm

A fetus with a fetus? Aaaaaand Rick just creamed his khakis.

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 4:48 pm

Don't ever tell him about aphids.

starfanglednut February 23, 2012 at 9:40 pm

Oh, man. My brain hurts. Again.

ifthethunderdontgetya February 23, 2012 at 3:13 pm

…Charles Murray, an author widely considered to be racist, or at the very, very least, severely blinkered, deranged and stuck in antebellum times.

Not to mention a hero of one Bobo Brooks, mysteriously employed by the New York Times in the word-writing industry.
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Lascauxcaveman February 23, 2012 at 4:29 pm

Brooks has a rare gift, I say. He uses a lot of very intelligent sounding words, but by the time he gets to the end of a sentence, he's sounding like a complete idiot.

Not many writers can pull that off.

SorosBot February 23, 2012 at 3:14 pm

Wait, I used a lot of contraception the other weekend but thought that was so that we wouldn't be making any babies. Now he's telling me that it's actually going to make my girlfriend a single mother?

Bonzos_Bed_Time February 23, 2012 at 3:33 pm

Why do you hate women?

MissTaken February 23, 2012 at 3:39 pm

It's okay, we're white.

Generation[redacted] February 23, 2012 at 3:54 pm

Sigh… what's happened to the state of White America since 1960? And that question is in no way racist. In fact, I hope he poses that question to Obama when the two finally debate for the first time.

starfanglednut February 23, 2012 at 9:43 pm

Hopey will wipe up the floor with him, or wipe up the floor after him, whatever.

SorosBot February 23, 2012 at 3:59 pm

According to Santorum and Murray, it should be our duty to be making white babies, to outbreed the blacks and browns. Guess that's why he wants to take away our birth control.

MissTaken February 23, 2012 at 4:06 pm

But according to the "research" used in The Bell Curve women with my IQ level only have a 2% chance of having an illegitimate baby. Damnation!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve

yyyaz February 23, 2012 at 4:20 pm

Huh. And apparently I was never incarcerated. What a relief!

SorosBot February 23, 2012 at 4:45 pm

Aw and I know how much you wanted a little screaming demanding mouth to feed and dominate your life.

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 4:52 pm

Welp, you're in luck, you little slut. Despite those aspirins popping from between your knees like sproggen from Michelle Duggar's cavernous hooha, it would appear that you are Magically and Miraculously Protected from Having Babby due to an enhanced IQ level.

No wonder Republicans want to close all schools down!

spinozasgod February 23, 2012 at 6:31 pm

that just means you have to try harder…and longer…..ohhhhh

tessiee February 24, 2012 at 1:28 am

Now if only I could figure out why the crap I'm in poverty.

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 4:50 pm

Not *just* white, GF. I have it on *good authority* that you're *both* a couple of gingers.

The WHITEST.

Fare la Volpe February 23, 2012 at 4:10 pm

I used a lot of contraception the other weekend

It was that good, eh?

Right about now is when the 90s TV audience would collectively chime, "WooooooOOOOOOOOO!!"

SorosBot February 23, 2012 at 4:48 pm

As we mentioned after the cat got out of the bag (less than a day later), yes it was.

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 4:53 pm

I'm chimin', I'm chimin'.

MissTaken February 23, 2012 at 4:59 pm

He still has the bruises to prove it.

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 9:54 pm

Girl! Girl?

When's he, um, coming back for more?

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 4:49 pm

A LOT, eh? That means you did it many, many times, you little sinners! Did her aspirin slip from between her knees repeatedly? How many bottles of aspirin did you guys go through! A concerned public DEMANDS to know!

starfanglednut February 23, 2012 at 9:46 pm

Yes, and where pray tell is our video?

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 9:56 pm

I don't think we got the video hookup working until after their Weekend o'Lust, you know. That woulda been right before Valentine's Day.

GOPCrusher February 23, 2012 at 5:38 pm

Why do you hate America?

teebob2000 February 23, 2012 at 3:14 pm

And everyone also knows about the wily Chinaman and their highly elevated IQs (the Orientals are nearly equivalent to us Occidentals), but with those slanty little eyes, they can't see very well so that knocks them down several points. They end up nearly down by the Darkie, and can't dance to boot, poor bastards.

TeaNuts February 23, 2012 at 3:17 pm

And have you ever seen them drive? OMG

Indiepalin February 23, 2012 at 3:23 pm

But for five bucks, they'll do your Math homework for you

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 4:57 pm

What about all those South and Southeast Asians? VN basically catapulted from the 17th century straight into the 21st, survived the most incredible fucking bombing, and is now just a booming little powerhouse. And India graduates more students (highly intelligent and qualified to boot) every year than the US.

Those are some pretty smart people, who have mostly been held back by the imbalance of arms. Judging from the brilliance of Nigerian computer scams, Africa is fast catching up. This coming century is going to be very interesting.

starfanglednut February 23, 2012 at 9:48 pm

I for one, will happily bid farewell to our white, middle aged, straight, rich male overlords.

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 9:58 pm

Change is painful, and tough. I've already had to deal with so much of it in my life. I don't envy the ones I'll soon be leaving behind. The *pace* of change is increasing each year, too.

But like you, I'm not going to be shedding any tears for the last buncha bastids that fucked things up. Hopefully, the new peeps will have some good ideas.

tessiee February 24, 2012 at 1:29 am

Also the female Asientals wear yellow sweaters.

owhatever February 23, 2012 at 3:14 pm

Give a monkey a typewriter and he's still a monkey. Give a racist a publisher and he's still a racist.

mrpuma2u February 23, 2012 at 3:16 pm

Nevermind, frothy creamy Ricky, that school systems with abstinence-only sex-ed programs (thank you GWBushwacker!) had the highest rates of teen pregnancies.

owhatever February 23, 2012 at 3:16 pm

Also, I was fascinated by the debate question "Do you favor birth control?" It is a yes or no thing. The Republican audience erupted in anger and Newt Gringo launched an attack on the media (big surprise there). Not one of the four candidates answered the question.

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 4:59 pm

How could they have? If they had said "Yes," those troglodytes would have torn them to pieces, and they would have lost the nomination. If they had said "No," they might have won the nomination, but would *certainly* lose the general.

Polls are already showing female voters turning away from the Repugs. Current line from the "pundits" is that's what's responsible for Mittens' sudden 20-point drop behind Obama.

savethispatient February 23, 2012 at 3:16 pm

In the debate, he was pushing for more abstinence education to solve the whole teen-pregnancy problem, yet didn't we try this under GWB and didn't the teen-pregnancy rate go up as a result? Way to pick dogma over results, Santo!

Jukesgrrl February 23, 2012 at 4:12 pm

Just because purity rings and going to the prom with your dad didn't work, doesn't mean magic underwear isn't the answer.

If you never read about the Purity Balls before, don't miss this article. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/19/us/19purity.htm

Loaded_Pants February 23, 2012 at 5:26 pm

I remember that article. My only thought was: "Why don't they just force the girls to marry their fathers and be done with it."

tessiee February 24, 2012 at 1:32 am

Your move, South Carolina.

savethispatient February 23, 2012 at 6:07 pm

I just wish the last US census had these two questions:
– Did you go to a Purity Ball?
– Are you currently pregnant?

savethispatient February 23, 2012 at 6:02 pm

Yes. All of them, Katie

starfanglednut February 23, 2012 at 9:50 pm

Conservative expect reality to conform to their ideology at all times. this is why they are always disappointed and angry.

tessiee February 24, 2012 at 1:33 am

I think this may be one of the best comments I have ever read anywhere.

subsum February 23, 2012 at 3:16 pm

Is David Axelrod or Mark Penn or whoever is running Barry's campaign taking notes? This is pure unbridled 30-second-ad gold!

savethispatient February 23, 2012 at 3:17 pm

Santorum is concerned that Blah people aren't very smart.

Lionel[redacted]Esq February 23, 2012 at 3:18 pm

What you don't understand is that Santorum has been briefed by the CIA about their secret plan to sale phony contraception to the minority communities so that they will have out of wed lock births, keeping their IQ's down.

Clearly, Santorum is going for the endorsement of the New Black Panthers Party. Possibly from both of them!

tessiee February 24, 2012 at 1:34 am

"secret plan to sale phony contraception to the minority communities so that they will have out of wed lock births, keeping their IQ's down."

Yeah, but then they'll outnumber the Real Americans [tm]!!!

BaldarTFlagass February 23, 2012 at 3:20 pm

Well, if 103 is the average IQ of a white person, that means half of the white people have IQs less than 103. Roughly half the white people in this country are Republicans. Do you see where I am going with this?

savethispatient February 23, 2012 at 6:15 pm

Science has already tested that theory* for you.

* Ugh, I linked to the Daily Mail. Apologies, it was the top google hit.

tessiee February 24, 2012 at 1:35 am

Yeah. But *they* don't.

SayItWithWookies February 23, 2012 at 3:21 pm

Rick has proof that banning birth control will cut teen pregnancies — you'll notice that you never see any pregnant altar boys, right? Now shut up and let him give the rich people your money so that you can become wealthy.

starfanglednut February 23, 2012 at 9:51 pm

That is distressingly accurate.

Not_So_Much February 23, 2012 at 3:26 pm

Not the same Murray that killed Michael Jackson then?

CogitoErgoBibo February 23, 2012 at 3:27 pm

Nothing gets this field of GOP idiots riled up more than the idea of people having sexxy time just for fun. If they're not allowed to have out-of-wedlock jungle love, then none of the rest of us should be allowed to. Typical "I can't have your vagina, so no one else can have your vagina" thinking. And seriously, they absolutely cannot have my vagina. Ever.

tessiee February 24, 2012 at 1:36 am

They can't have anybody's vagina that doesn't charge by the hour.

Trinket February 23, 2012 at 3:28 pm

Contraception causes pregnancy. Brilliant.

Dudleydidwrong February 23, 2012 at 10:41 pm

Arbeit macht frei — I read that somewhere…

flamingpdog February 23, 2012 at 3:37 pm

One could also say his interest in this book just proves once again that Rick Santorum doesn’t care about blah people or anyone else except wha people, because, hi, Title of Book.

Sorry, Liz, but what his interest in this book just proves again is that Ricky is easily the most stupid person to have run for the Republican Presidential nomination since forever. Rick Perry would have graduated magna cum laude from Santorum University; GW Bush is Rhodes Scholar material compared to Frothy. If brains were dynamite, Rick Santorum couldn't blow his own nose.

Loaded_Pants February 23, 2012 at 5:29 pm

But, oddly, there's just enough for him blow stuff out of his biggest head hole.

starfanglednut February 23, 2012 at 9:57 pm

Oh, I know. The man is dumb as dirt. I would actually pay to see him debate hopey.

James Michael Curley February 23, 2012 at 3:47 pm

OMG! Santorum, Pennsylvania, that field! Now we know how Flight 93 went down.

starfanglednut February 23, 2012 at 9:57 pm

The grass was real slippery from all that santorum.

Guppy February 23, 2012 at 3:48 pm

Children shouldn't be having children unless they're married to a 40 year-old man.

x111e7thst February 23, 2012 at 3:54 pm

Fuck this Santorum bitch and the frothy tide he washed in on.

Mahousu February 23, 2012 at 3:55 pm

Frum pulls out the perfect quote from Murray's book:

Data can bear on policy issues, but many of our opinions about policy are grounded on premises about the nature of human life and human society that are beyond the reach of data. Try to think of any new data that would change your position on abortion, the death penalty, legalization of marijuana, same-sex marriage or the inheritance tax. If you cannot, you are not necessarily being unreasonable.

Of course, by definition you are being unreasonable, but put that aside. Murray has described Santorum and his type perfectly.

Spurning Beer February 23, 2012 at 7:46 pm

Hypothetical data that could change my mind:

– If cannabis caused lung cancer or birth defects at a non-trivial rate
– if the inheritance tax resulted in decreased net tax revenue and employment over 20 years
– if the death penalty significantly deterred violent crime, and no innocents were ever executed
– if the legal availability of safe abortion produced a permanent Republican majority in both houses of Congress and a permanent Republican presidency

tessiee February 24, 2012 at 1:40 am

"abortion, the death penalty, legalization of marijuana, same-sex marriage or the inheritance tax"

Does it strike anyone else that inheritance tax is surely the wallflower at that party?

deanbooth February 24, 2012 at 7:56 pm

I know what would change their minds:

* A daughter getting pregnant from rape
* A nephew being railroaded in a murder trial
* A son busted for pot
* A personal medical problem leading to bankruptcy and homelessness

JustPixelz February 23, 2012 at 4:06 pm

Rick Santorum says anthropomorphic climate change is a "hoax" and is the product of "political science", not "real science". Yet he accepts the Bible is authoritative for public policy — without proof! He doesn't even demand (or offer) proof that God exists. I guess his IQ isn't as high as the blah people Murray uses in his "science".

(God works in mysterious ways. NO WAIT! God slavishly obeys the laws of physics and probability.)

starfanglednut February 23, 2012 at 10:00 pm
tessiee February 24, 2012 at 1:43 am

I love how the best that the climate change denial folks can come up with is, "It's a hoax". Besides the fact that "Nuh UH!" was a lame comeback even in second grade, a hoax perpetrated by whom? To benefit whom? The guy who picks up my recycling? Because he doesn't look very rich or powerful to me.

Jukesgrrl February 23, 2012 at 4:10 pm

Apparently Senator and Mrs. Mix, parents to eight, were unable to master the Catholic rhythm method of birth control, so how does he expect people with even lower IQs to do it?

PubOption February 23, 2012 at 5:29 pm

Interesting comment. Do black Catholics have fewer babies than white Catholics?

UnholyMoses February 23, 2012 at 4:16 pm

Murray is the author of a book called “The Bell Curve Niggas Be Stupid And Shit,” …

Fixed to reflect what the book actually says (or, reads, I guess).

BarackMyWorld February 23, 2012 at 4:23 pm

I really want someone to show Rick the evidence that demonstrates how reducing unwanted pregnancies has helped reduce the crime rate.

chicken_thief February 23, 2012 at 4:30 pm

Contraceptives increase the birth rate just as Santorum increases sexual desire in women.

starfanglednut February 23, 2012 at 10:01 pm

And up is down!

mavenmaven February 23, 2012 at 4:40 pm

Charles Murray may not know the cause for the collapse of the white working class, but we can certainly attribute a role to the shoddy quality of its leadership. Santorum is an excellent example.

Antispandex February 23, 2012 at 5:11 pm

"…a book called “The Bell Curve,” which apparently “argues that black people score lower on IQ tests because they are genetically inferior to whites.”

You're sure that's not The Book of Mormon? Oh, no, right, that's the other guy. You can't tell those Teapublican racists without a score card these days.

LiveToServeYa February 23, 2012 at 5:15 pm

That hunting outfit is a pretty good contraceptive all by itself, especially for a man so high on the Dumbbell Curve.

Slim_Pickins February 23, 2012 at 5:28 pm

The Constitution forbids religion tests, but it doesn't say anything about intelligence tests, How about the republican retards releasing their ACT/SAT scores? I bet Squeaky Santorum is at least 6-sigma below the mean.

Nostrildamus February 23, 2012 at 6:11 pm

From Frum's review of Murray's book: "This Palinism with a bar chart".

Biel_ze_Bubba February 24, 2012 at 5:30 am

Well, doh … that's exactlly what it's meant to be.

Tundra Grifter February 23, 2012 at 6:34 pm

Why is the CalTrans worker in that photo carrying a shotgun?

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 9:46 pm

He has a tendency to have a grasp on Other People's Money Also Too, which tends to disqualify one from higher office.

not that Dewey February 23, 2012 at 11:48 pm

Many years ago my father was taken in by The Bell Curve (he's since recovered from that unfortunate spell). He wanted me to read it. I told him that I would only if he read Stephen Jay Gould's The Mismeasure of Man. He did; I did. He was swayed; I was not. Reason won out.

ttommyunger February 24, 2012 at 12:00 am

Frankly, until I saw this pix of Little Ricky, I would not have believed a man could pose with a fucking shotgun and look gay.

tessiee February 24, 2012 at 1:50 am

Sorry if this offends anyone here, but Ricky is gayer than Gay Gayerson, the mayor of Gayville.

tessiee February 24, 2012 at 1:22 am

Can Ross Douthat?

tessiee February 24, 2012 at 1:23 am

Be vewy, vewy quiet.
Wick is hunting wabbits.

Biel_ze_Bubba February 24, 2012 at 1:51 am

According to another leanred commentator on the subject, "Three generations of imbeciles are enough."

Is Ricky first or second generation?

Negropolis February 24, 2012 at 2:21 am

It's not that Rick and people like Rick don't care about Blah people; it's actually that they care too much and in all of the wrong ways. So long as Blah people are a "problem" that needs "solving", we can't even start and honest conversation.

When Rick & Co. starting recognizing us as a people like any other rather than a problem, then we can talk. Until then, the Republican Party can kiss my black ass…figuratively, of course, 'cause I don't want them anywhere near me.

Sometimes, in a revenge fantasy, I wish wealthy african americans would obsessively patronize and concern troll poor white people, just so they can see how it feels. But, then I imagine how much of a crippling and exhausting existence it must be to constantly look down your nose at other people.

Biel_ze_Bubba February 24, 2012 at 5:42 am

"But, then I imagine how much of a crippling and exhausting existence it must be to constantly look down your nose at other people."

Unless it comes to you naturally. Or should I say, nurturally. "White America" is in the "state" it's in thanks entirely to white Americans – in particular those who deliberately embrace superstition, fear, and ignorance, and noisily demand the right to pass those charming traits on to their children. The day they become a true minority (the day that most terrorizes them) will be an important milestone.

joobajooba February 24, 2012 at 9:00 am

Featured "on the front page" of the New York Times. I guess that makes it "scientific literature."

FROTHY February 23, 2012 at 4:53 pm

Also to ruin that trim little figure.

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