Rick Santorum Used To Love Abortion

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PoopDid you know that Rick Santorum used to be all “Oh man abortion is so great” (paraphrase) (??) for most of his life? Yes, Rick Santorum! Ladies could hit up all the big sales at the Abortionplex every weekend and he’d be just fine with that. What happened? He “read the literature” when he decided to become a politician, and the literature told him no, ladies should not have this right.

The Huffo’s Sam Stein and Jason Cherkis themselves “read the literature” of Weird Rick’s interviews and candidate issue forms from the early ’90s, when he was an early foot soldier in the Gingrich Revolution but couldn’t go more than a few seconds without salivating approvingly over the very idea of abortion being legal and happening all the time:

In a December 1995 Philadelphia Magazine article — which the Huffington Post pulled from Temple University archives — Santorum conceded that he “was basically pro-choice all my life, until I ran for Congress… But it had never been something I thought about.” Asked why he changed his mind, he said that he “sat down and read the literature. Scientific literature,” only to correct himself and note that religion was a part of it too.

Don’t worry, hippies/women/American majorities. If you all just read the literature, then you’ll get to be pro-life one day, too.

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183 comments

        1. LettucePrey

          … EVERYBODY!

          Wastin' away again in sad Santorum-ville,
          Searching for Rick's lost hint of a soul.
          His people claim that Obama's to blame
          But we know it's all a big LOL

    1. Fukui_sanYesOta

      A "flip-flopper" is apparently a jail term for a convict who acts as both catamite and top.

      It seems awfully apposite for the Rickster.

  1. nounverb911

    "and read the literature. Scientific literature,"
    Isn't reading scientific literature a stoning offense in the Bible?

          1. Fare la Volpe

            Is that guy serious in his politicizing everything, or is he parodying what fundie Christians actually believe about Bill Clinton and global warming? I'm having the hardest time figuring it out.

          2. MittBorg

            I figure it's parody, hell, he's from the SF/Bay Area, so he's probably gay, a leftie, and weird as fuck-all. AFAICT, anyway. (Hugs the foxy one — sorry, it's a Free Hugs for Everyone day.)

        1. Mumbly_Joe

          Be sure to read the "about the author" while you're at it. It's pretty great. The only real fear is, if you buy this for your theocratic loved one, they might not actually get the joke.

          1. Deportably_Jose

            I had to, for a throw-away joke about Bob Dole and Democrat Wars. Fortunately, the Internet gives me ADD, and I'm sure I'll change it again, once anything remotely exploitable is in the news.

            But I'm being a little meta, at this point.

      1. Callyson

        "Circle the ways people and monkeys are different."
        The people are the ones in awful clothes. Didn't they have What Not to Wear back then?
        Seriously, yeah, I've got to get this gem…

  2. Lionel[redacted]Esq

    I think all of us should read the scientific literature about how what the Pope as an old white man says is best for the lady folks. It is very enlightening.

  3. emmelemm

    Man, I hate this guy. I really really really really rilly rilly hate him. And his banana-batshit wife too.

    1. MittBorg

      Here's something to make you feel better, dear. Note that Santorum has raised the *least* $$$ of *all* the Republican candidates.

      Now, he might have a chance to raise more at some point, but Mittens' SuperPACs are bigger. And Mittens has all the big money doods locked in.

        1. weej_bain

          Radio, I'd say that if Frothy gets the nomination it will be a seriously insane high colonic for the entire party that will violently send their electoral chances in many races right down the drain.

          1. RadioSBJ

            No doubt, weej, but they loathe Mitts too. Although they are rather adept at handling hate issues.
            I wonder which one will be more or less hurtful to the congressional races.

          2. Gainsbourg69

            Independents don't loathe Mitt, though. With Mitt the republicans can win all those purple districts which the baggers won in 2010. With Santorum they can lose those districts and the democrats can make inroads into districts made up of moderate republicans.

        2. MittBorg

          weej_bain's *excellent* point notwithstanding, my main concern is that Frothy's run will be horribly polarizing. He's already got the religious fired up against the ChristmasChurchers/nonreligious/nonChristian/other_religions, the gays, PP, the government, enivornmentalists … I mean the guy is a serious fount of loony hate. I went to Catholic school for years, and I remember people like him.

          Before any Catholics here get upset, let me point out that the most truly Christian person I know is a Catholic. But y'all know as well as I do that that has *nothing* to do with the *church,* which is, in many ways, a blot on religion.

          See, Mittens will say all the same things, but Mittens couldn't get a roomful of flaming queens fired up about *any*thing. Frothy up there is appealing to the LCD, and he *is* getting them into Father_Coughlin_mean_hateful mode.

          1. RadioSBJ

            Good points. Plus there is the chance that he could win, and then all hell breaks loose. But don't you think that the people who will make the difference — the dreaded independents — will see Brown Shorts as the polarizer? He is so egregiously a right wing nutjob. And every day he goes further and further into the desert of dumbass. His main political capital is "Anybody but Romney." Likewise, in the general it will be "Anybody but Obama — 24/7, 365, all the time Hate Obama." And how much is that worth?

          2. MittBorg

            True. But look at the figures on those charts. I think this whole Santorum business (haha) is a media creation. He's raised less money than any of the other candidates, and Romney's already locked up all the big money donors. Santorum can't get them, because they're maxed out. So what are his choices? He can hope for munniez funneled through the SuperPACs, but that won't pay his day-to-day ground expenses, and he has NO ground team.

            I don't think Santorum has a prayer, really. The battle is pretty much over. Sooner or later, Santorum will be forced out just because he hasn't the money to compete.

          3. RadioSBJ

            I don't think Santorum has a prayer
            hehehe
            While I think you are right MB, as usual, I do feel a bit dejected because it reflects on our political process in general: No money, no chance.

          4. weej_bain

            MB, as someone who recovered from much of Sister Caligula's view of life, 'cept I still eat and write with the right hand to subconsciously reduce the pain in the knuckles of the left, I see your point. An Opus Dei wet dream like Santorum will be polarizing, but to such a degree as to marginalize not only a fall Presidential run by Frothy, but his well lubricated coattails will splatter santorum on a number of other Rethugs and result in DRat wins in races they might not otherwise have won.

            If the GOP nomination is brokered, and they run an 'adult' candidate, Hopey might still win (unless Iran goes kablooey), but may face at least two more years of Mr. Speaker Boner. Sometimes polarization isn't so bad if the other side loses touch with reality.

          5. MittBorg

            That's exactly what I'm hoping for, my friend. The GOP nomination won't be brokered. The GOP knows this is a losing race, that's why all the screaming about social issues and such nonsense. Romney is the sacrifical lamb here. They're letting him run because they don't want to waste their big guns on this race. I believe they'll try for control of the House and Senate, as Chet opined earlier, but I don't believe they'll have too much success with that, in part because the teabagger candidates have *really* overreached themselves and pissed off the electorate. But I suppose we'll see.

    1. lulzmonger

      Santorum would look perfect handing out "the literature" in an airport lobby.

      Wonder if he was among the clapping smiley Senate mob that basically cermonially coronated Sun Myung Moon as Messiah in DC back on March 23, 2004?

  4. Fukui_sanYesOta

    Obligatory link to the interview with the abortion doctor who was dating Ricky's wife. The one where the doc states:

    "When she moved out to go be with Rick, she told me I'd like him, that he was pro-choice and a humanist," he said at the time. "But I don't think there's a humanist bone in that man's body."

    1. fuflans

      i first read that as "i don't think there's a HUMAN bone in that man's body'.

      i thought maybe he had an alien reptile implant too.

      1. LetUsBray

        Yeah but, snark aside, I think that's very telling: I know people who are religious, and people who aren't. And the main thing that determines whether they're good to know is not what they believe about god(s) but whether they believe in humanity.

        The Santora of the world believe human beings are basically sinful and depraved – because they project what they see in the mirror onto all of us – but especially those human beings with the gross icky lady parts.

        1. MittBorg

          Excellent point, Bray. Truly.

          It's beginning to look as if Republicans are basically united by these issues in the 21st century: (1) Racism; (2) Misogyny; (3) Homophobia and (4) Class warfare. In other words, all they've got is hate. Having flung out all the blahs and browns, the wimminz, the Poorz, and the gays, lesbians, transgenders, transexuals, queers, and that one guy who really likes his wife to strap it on and do him in the butt, what have they got left, exactly?

          Rich old straight (yeah, right) white men. A dwindling demographic that still controls a lot of the power but is destined to pretty much get submerged in a sea of brown within the next 100 years at most. Here's to the end of the Santora!

      1. MittBorg

        When you see that long tongue hanging out in the video …

        What *was* that looneytoon rambling about, incidentally? I never did see any tongue or teeth. Maybe I need to take more Rorshach tests.

  5. edgydrifter

    It was right there on the back of his cereal box: "Part of a balanced breakfast. Not to be eaten with aborted fetuses." Science!

  6. Fare la Volpe

    So did he change his mind before or after he let his wife have a life-saving abortion? I need to know if he's a hypocrite or just an asshole.

    1. DrOzarkZ.Hellbender

      Now, now, it wasn't an abortion, it was a "life-saving operation." It's only an abortion when someone else has one.

  7. nonbeliever7

    Hmmm, now I wonder if Ricky was into birth control, marijuana, and basic human logic before he became a congresswhore.

  8. SayItWithWookies

    He never thought about it — he just read the literature and changed his mind.

    I'm not even sure where to begin.

    1. anniegetyerfun

      Well, he did correct himself to say that religion had something to do with it, so it's actually accurate, if you don't think about it.

      1. Loaded_Pants

        He read the scientific literature & religion also played a role in him changing his mind?
        Something does not compute.

    2. grace_nearing

      Funny, that,s what Clarence Thomas said during his confirmation hearing, ie, he had just never before considered the legal arguments concerning Roe v Wade. At the time, I thought it was a clumsy dodge, but having seen how disengaged Thomas is on the Court, maybe he was being honest.

  9. memzilla

    This is like a prequel to the current election story, with a character every bit as appealing as Fetus Jar Jar Binks.

  10. WhatTheHeck

    I failed English Literature. Oh wait. You were talking about Latin Literature where women were not allowed to conjugate… except for procreation.

    1. Dudleydidwrong

      Women are allowed only to go through a prepositional phase… After that, they can't move until they conjugate.

      1. coolhandnuke

        Sounds like an episode from the "White Shadow" where the Catholic school hotshot transfer student joins the Carver team and alienates everyone with his selfish play, ignores the playbook and reads only from his playbook–the Bible, and finally, tired of this twits antics, the team ambushes him in the locker room and ties him to the shower nozzle with his jockstrap.

  11. LesBontemps

    "And then I read the polling data, which confirmed the political truism that Pennsylvania is Philadelphia on one end, Pittsburgh on the other, and Alabama in the middle, only chock full of Catholics — so there was no way I was going to get elected to anything unless I started luvin me some fetus, loudly and constantly, everywhere, all the time."

    1. MittBorg

      He did! He married him some twat who had gotten herself groomed by an ABORTIONIST to be a high-society dame fit for a career politician's wife. You know the money for her music lessons and art lessons came from ABORTIONS, right? And that she HAD one? At LEAST one that we know of, anyway.

      I wouldn't be surprised if that hypocritical, scheming little cunt had been having abortions just to have something to stuff in the jalapeno poppers.

      1. Schmannnity

        Wait, who is the scheming little cunt in this equation, Rick or his wife (or both) or (I'll intervene here), all of them, Katie)?

        1. MittBorg

          Oh, hell, let's go with "all of them, Katie." I have never seen such repulsive people as the Santorums. Oh, wait, I forgot about the RMONEYz. Oh right, Newt, too.

          Never mind. All of them, Katie. Straight to the MOOOOOOOON!

  12. jus_wonderin

    I don't know about the rest of you, but I am tiring a wee bit of this Republican nomination race.

    1. Fukui_sanYesOta

      The debate drink-a-thon tomorrow might be fun. Well, not really, but we get to drink loads and snark the shit out of it on our wonkete, so there's that.

  13. fuflans

    everytime i see a headshot of rick santorum i feel totally sorry for ryan reynolds who will have to play him in the movie.

    then i remember ryan reynolds is a rich canadian who was married to scarlett johansson and i don't feel sorry anymore.

  14. Texan_Bulldog

    Just watched some wing nut woman on Hardball explain why women in VA need to have an ultrasound before getting an abortion. I seriously hate all these people who think they know better than the woman what that woman needs.

    1. Loaded_Pants

      On "Talk of the Nation" today they had a segment about this bill. Somebody claiming to to have a MD father & OBGYN mother called in to actually defend this stupid bill. From what she was saying, it was obvious she hadn't read the damn thing & didn't know what the hell she was talking about. She seemed to think that, well, if a woman didn't want to have the ultrasound, they could simply find another OBGYN. Jeezus cheezus! No fucking clue whatsoever.

        1. Loaded_Pants

          I can't remember who they had on who was criticizing the bill. I wanna say it was someone who wrote for slate.com but I can't be sure. Anyhoo, this poor woman had to try point out details of the bill to this caller. I kept thinking: "Just tell her maybe she should read the damned bill herself & come up with a better defense of it since she clearly doesn't know what it actually says."

        1. Chet Kincaid

          Oh no, Sir or Madam. I remember being afflicted with Jack T. Chick pamphlets way back in Sunday School in the '60s. It has been a hipster thing to ironically collect them in recent years, but now I find them insufferable.

      1. Dudleydidwrong

        We should spring for several hundred of Chick Tract # 16 and give them out at Santorum and Gingrich rallies:

        "Over 1 billion Catholics worldwide hope their baptism, their religion, and their good works will get them into Heaven. These tracts show these deceived souls…that they're basically screwed because they don't believe what we believe…"

    1. C_R_Eature

      This theory of yours sounds interesting. Would you like to try to assemble some experimental evidence?

  15. WhatTheHeck

    The only exception to the “Scientific Literature” rule is when a republican male gets his girlfriend pregnant and doesn’t want his wife to find out.

    1. VaWyo

      Thankfully this doesn't happen so much since most of these guys appear to be stepping out with other guys.

  16. Rotundo_

    He read the literature, or more properly, did a little research into what would froth the conservatards up the most and seized on it to start a career in politics. So all this pontificating is just to advance his career prospects, either as a politician or as yet another of the hundreds of winger welfare types that have gigs on radio or FOX and froth the bubbas for fun and profit. Dan Savage really called it on this one. He fits the definition and the spirit of the definition to a tee.

  17. VaWyo

    He became anti-choice after his wife had an abortion. Since he is confident his wife won't need another abortion it is ok to make it illegal. You see, it is all about him.

  18. Flat_Earther

    Karen lived with the abortion Doc for 6 years. When she moved out to hook up with Rick (I assume it was the sweater vest) she described Rick as pro-choice. Something must have changed. I doubt it was scientific literature.

  19. el_donaldo

    He said that he “sat down and read the literature. Scientific literature,” only to correct himself and note that religion was a part of it too.

    Translation: "I decided that the Bible was the only science I or anyone else needed."

  20. fuflans

    in related news of science, i have been watching this story all day and wondering what it means for the republican presidential contest.

    Astronomers have confirmed the existence of a new class of planet: a waterworld with a thick, steamy atmosphere.

    The exoplanet GJ 1214b is a so-called "Super Earth" – bigger than our planet, but smaller than gas giants such as Jupiter.

    i'm sure it means something.

    1. C_R_Eature

      It means that is used to be a nice planet until the Mormons got there and now it's covered with houseboats full of wives and huge gaudy floating castles on barges.

  21. joobajooba

    He also said in the Philadelphia Magazine article that it was the ideas of Martin Luther King that inspired his political worldview:
    "When I asked what he had done in his legislative career to try to realize King's hopes, Santorum grew testy.
    "'Well,' he started, 'it's not… you don't necessarily,'
    "'Welfare,' his press secretary said.
    "'That's right,' Santorum said, not missing a beat. 'Welfare reform. Welfare reform that will get blacks working and eventually bring about racial equality.'"

  22. RadioSBJ

    So what they are essentially saying is that Slick Rick was clueless about something. Big surprise there.

  23. ElPinche

    wow.. Santorum went from pro-choice to bringing home pickled zygotes for the whole family. Top that mega-flipflop, Mittens!

  24. randcoolcatdaddy

    I pity the poor slaves at HuffPoo that had to dig and read that crap. That's like reading Kim Kardashian's elementary school essays as you try to find a way to work her into today's HuffPoo headlines.

  25. Deportably_Jose

    Don’t worry, hippies/women/American majorities. If you all just read the literature, then you’ll get to be pro-life one day, too.

    Well, Tom Cruise read all the literature, too, which is why he knows that psychiatry is a fraud and only L. Ron Hubbard can realign his body thetans. Literature!

  26. Mumbly_Joe

    Oh hey, and here's Ricky McFroth saying that "the whole abortion culture… It's about homosexuality."

    Methinks he might need to go re-read some of that scientific literature that talks about where babies come from. Pretty sure the homos aren't the ones having abortions, for the most part.

    1. Fukui_sanYesOta

      Woodstock is the great American orgy. This is who the Democratic Party has become. They have become the party of Woodstock. The prey upon our most basic primal lusts, and that’s sex. And the whole abortion culture, it’s not about life. It’s about sexual freedom. That’s what it’s about. Homosexuality. It’s about sexual freedom

      And if there's one thing Americans hate, it's freedom.

      Wait, what?

  27. gout

    He read "the" scientific literature about abortion and then decided it was amoral? What does that even mean? What scientific literature provided him with this moral conclusion? How could that!? it what, Fuck, what a fuck, fukking Fucktard gaa! Ow my fucking brain. This must be what it feels like to be a teatard trying to comprehend a rational world.

    1. weej_bain

      There, there, gout. Follow along with me here and répétez svp…

      dv/dt = 0
      F = ma
      Fa,b = -∑Fb,a

      et encore until you purge the santorum from your brain.

  28. Chichikovovich

    Rick says this a lot, and I've heard lots of other forced-birthers say the same. Clearly the carrier pigeons have gone out from talking-point central to the moronic but unquestionably message-discipled shock troops. Don't say "religious" – say it's the scientific literature! And they do. If people ask what, say something foggy about ultrasounds revealing that it's really a cuddly lil' baby in there, and about DNA and unique beings created at conception. (Unique? What about identical twins? Apparently they are unknown to science.) Keep blabbing – repeating yourself several times if necessary – until they have to cut to commercial.

    So I thought I would tell a little story. My wife Chichikovna MD went to a very prestigious medical school, and I must tell you that the people she met there were exceptionally smart, well-read, thoughtful and intelligent people. During their OB/Gyn rotations, all of them, including Chichikovna, read as extensively in the literature on fetal development and related matters as you would expect of people who are going to be treating pregnant women. Not one of them went from being pro-choice to being forced-birth as a result. But apparently Santorum and those like him have a different reaction to that material. What explains this? The only differences I can see is that Chichikovna and her friends immersed themselves in the subject and these people just skimmed the distorted semi-facts in forced-birth propaganda. Also Chichikovna and her friends are really, really smart, while Santorum and those like him are idiots. So that must be it.

    1. Fukui_sanYesOta

      and about DNA and unique beings created at conception. (Unique? What about identical twins? Apparently they are unknown to science.)

      Try them out on chimaeras and watch their pointly little heads assplode.

      Also, I'm going with your "Chichikovna and her friends are really, really smart, while Santorum and those like him are idiots" hypothesis.

    2. Dudleydidwrong

      Your wife, Chichikovna, is obviously bright, reads, thinks, and arrives at conclusions based upon what she has studied and learned. I'd bet $10,000 that Santorum never read a scientific mongraph, let alone a book by an accredited medical author, on the subject. Bullshit just naturally flows through his veins and he has to make some excuse to explain the flip-flop that was done for political expediency. He's just a cow flop.

    3. Spurning Beer

      And what about Dr. Ronald Paul, OB-GYN, deliverer of a whole passel of young'uns? He's not only a medical scientist, but a fanatical believer in liberty, and he is still on the side of the cute little blastocysts' overriding right to life, with the possible exception of rape (by a black or immigrant perpetrator) or incest (by a liberal).

      I just blew your mind, didn't I?

      I didn't?

      1. Chichikovovich

        Well, I said that when intelligent pro-choice or undecided people have extensive, in-depth exposure to the scientific facts, it will not make them pro-forced-birth. I've never been under any illusions about the power of scientific information to make fools and cranks stop being fools and cranks, or committed pro-forced-birthers stop being forced-birthers.

  29. LagunaB

    Ok, now they got my Irish up but good.
    It took those morons 40 years to realize it was not abortion that was allowing women to become doctors, lawyers, judges, senators, etc., but the pill.
    40 fucking years!
    And you know what they are afraid of?
    Turning into Edma Turnblad. Yeah, that's right. You stay home and women will run things. And I want my chili rellanos cooked the tradition way. No quickly shit.
    Women shouldn't just take over government but we should abort males zygotes. Their truly biggest fear. And sterilize all the Christian women who support them.
    What comes first the chicken or the egg?
    Female chickens you morons.

  30. MadBrahms

    It's really a shame he went to the "scientific literature". Most of the time when men get interested in vaginas, we go find porn.

  31. Negropolis

    Wait, aren't you supposed to say that you read the Scripture? Truth has a way of wriggling itself out between your teeth every now and again.

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