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You Must Read The Occupiers’ 325-Page Comment To The SEC

by Jim Newell

The Occupy people have done a wonderful thing. On Monday, just as the comment period on the new regulation was closing, a subgroup of seven known as Occupy the SEC submitted a 325-page comment to all relevant federal agencies demanding a stricter “Volcker Rule” — the part of Dodd-Frank that aims to limit the amount of proprietary trading, or risky bets made with a firm’s own money (frequently and ultimately meaning YOUR money), in which megabanks can participate.

This is Important, as the comment explains:

Proprietary trading by large-scale banks was a principal cause of the recent financial crisis, and, if left unchecked, it has the potential to cause even worse crises in the future. In the words of a banking insider, Michael Madden, a former Lehman Brothers executive:

Proprietary trading played a big role in manufacturing the CDOs (collateralized debt obligations) and other instruments that were at the heart of the financial crisis. . . if firms weren’t able to buy up the parts of these deals that wouldn’t sell. . .the game would have stopped a lot sooner.

Go read it! We haven’t read the full thing, but we will… later. (No, that’s not even a joke this time. We will read it later! Unless something good comes on the teevee… No but really we look forward to reading it! Maybe…)

In the meantime, here are a couple of reviews from Reuters and Mother Jones.

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Barb February 15, 2012 at 12:35 pm

Breitbart would like us all to "stop raping people!"
Sure Andy, as soon as they stop raping us.

BarackMyWorld February 15, 2012 at 12:37 pm

I need someone from Fox News to tell me if I'm being raped too much.

Maman February 15, 2012 at 12:41 pm

What is the proper amount of rape? I am never clear on that

actor212 February 15, 2012 at 12:44 pm

It's just enough, but not too much. Or too little. Here, let me demonstrate…

Lascauxcaveman February 15, 2012 at 12:53 pm

Stop! Right Now! These last couple of threads have been a bit too rapey for me.

Biff February 15, 2012 at 1:07 pm

Tobias Funkë would know, let's ask him!

GOPCrusher February 15, 2012 at 3:44 pm

I think its like doing shots of tequila. You keep saying I can do one more until you get to that point where you're standing on the pool table in your underwear, singing Don't Cry For Me Argentina.

Fare la Volpe February 15, 2012 at 12:46 pm

Maybe if you didn't dress so poor; it just looks like you're asking for it.

Tundra Grifter February 15, 2012 at 12:49 pm

Thank you, Melissa Cloutier!

chascates February 15, 2012 at 12:50 pm

Cenk tells Breitbart, ‘Stop having gay sex in bathrooms!’: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/15/young-turks

Oblios_Cap February 15, 2012 at 1:02 pm

Breibart has really let himself go after Wags left him.

Designer_Rants February 15, 2012 at 7:05 pm

Republicans and conservatives, who like to have gay sex in bathrooms and then gay sex with prostitutes and then smoke crack off their ass?

Whaa? Is that like smoking weed out of an apple? What will these kids think up next!

And I hope Breitbart gets rotten tomatoes thrown at him every day for one hundred years for what he did to Shirley Sherrod.

Not_So_Much February 15, 2012 at 12:57 pm

But unwanted vaginal penetration is still cool, right?

SorosBot February 15, 2012 at 1:07 pm

Ron Paul wants to know if these are honest rapes.

FraAnima February 15, 2012 at 2:41 pm

Behave yourself!
Behave yourself!
Behave yourself!

tessiee February 15, 2012 at 3:09 pm

Actually, Breitbart's comment was, "Stop rapping, people!"
He's just a poor speller who doesn't like rap music.

OC_Surf_Serf February 15, 2012 at 12:36 pm

Just cut to the page where they demand the use of guillotines…

BlueStateLibel February 15, 2012 at 1:20 pm

Page 261: "In the event the bankster declines decapitation by guillotine, he or she may specify an alternate means of self-destruction, including hanging-and-quartering and death by drowning in a barrel of wine." I read fast!

BaldarTFlagass February 15, 2012 at 1:37 pm

Ctrl+F is your friend.

chascates February 15, 2012 at 12:37 pm

As a former printer I champion the lengthy verbiage of these printed entreaties but as someone who prizes brevity I think a simple 'QUIT FUCKING US OVER!' would have sufficed.

Geminisunmars February 15, 2012 at 12:48 pm

That is the shorter version that goes on the placards.

CapnFatback February 15, 2012 at 1:06 pm

Such is the soul of snark.

Guppy February 15, 2012 at 1:30 pm

Do they even mail out hard copies of the Federal Register any more?

paris biltong February 15, 2012 at 1:38 pm

As he letter notes, "the Proposed Rule was designed to avoid 'definitive bright lines' in favor of a 'more nuanced framework',” the bright line being, as you suggest "Quit fucking us over," of which a more nuanced version would be "Please quit fucking us over."

ph7 February 15, 2012 at 2:13 pm

Sadly, chascates, I have several friends who are also former printers. Three of them worked together printing maps that delivery drivers used. Remember maps? Another worked in the printing dept of the WaPo. Remember newsprinting?

tessiee February 15, 2012 at 3:18 pm

Tom Tomorrow's take is pretty right on:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/10/1024469/

Maman February 15, 2012 at 12:37 pm

You mean that buying and selling instruments you know to be shit isn't a good idea? Who'da thunk it?

Generation[redacted] February 15, 2012 at 12:40 pm

Are you kidding? It's a great idea! Buying and not selling, on the other hand… you want to make sure you have a seat when the music stops.

Maman February 15, 2012 at 12:42 pm

Ah yes, everything I needed to know about life I learned in Kindergarten.

chicken_thief February 15, 2012 at 12:46 pm

No sweat. AIG will cover your bets.

Maman February 15, 2012 at 3:14 pm

And reinsure it 40 times while involving every other insurance company in the known world.

Doesn't anyone remember how this behavior ended for Lloyd's of London in the 1980s.

Bezoar February 15, 2012 at 2:56 pm

Selling shit, that's a good idea. Buying shit; that's different.

tessiee February 15, 2012 at 3:11 pm

Sorta like junk bonds: "With a name like junk bonds, we figured what could possibly go wrong?"

Maman February 15, 2012 at 3:14 pm

The name gave ME confidence.

el_donaldo February 15, 2012 at 12:38 pm

It took 325 pages to explain that "shit is all fucked up and shit"?

And how are they going to do this with the big puppet heads?

mayor_quimby February 15, 2012 at 1:30 pm

Somebody's been watching "Idiocracy"…

Harry_S_Truman February 15, 2012 at 12:38 pm

Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.

Steverino247 February 15, 2012 at 1:30 pm

Mandatory T-shirt purchase right there, Harry. Oh, and good call on the nuking of Japan.

paris biltong February 15, 2012 at 1:46 pm

Over a million occurrences in Goggle, yet no one seems to know who said it first. Harry Truman?

tessiee February 15, 2012 at 3:19 pm

Give me a bank, and I can buy more books.

BaldarTFlagass February 15, 2012 at 12:38 pm

I'm glad that there are people that have the patience to read something like that. And maybe even understand it.

BarackMyWorld February 15, 2012 at 12:39 pm

#occupyyourprinter

memzilla February 15, 2012 at 12:39 pm

How about we pass legislation to let the 99% of us use the same 40:1 leverage ratio that these scumbags got to use? "Hey look, I got $15,000 in my bank account now!"

chicken_thief February 15, 2012 at 12:48 pm

What are these "bank account" things you speak of?!

donner_froh February 15, 2012 at 12:39 pm

“an unfortunate consequence of the generalized language throughout the Proposed Rule may be the shift of risky practices out of liquid and transparent markets into the less regulated illiquid and OTC products”

Unfortunate consequence seems a bit harsh. Don't forget how well moving shaky/illiquid/insane investments to off balance sheet entities worked for Enron.

paris biltong February 15, 2012 at 1:49 pm

"Liquid and transparent" would be gin and vodka, while illiquid stuff you can buy over the counter includes doughnuts, right?

slowhansolo February 15, 2012 at 12:39 pm

The Free (To Fuck Everyone Over But Us) Market must be preserved!

weej_bain February 15, 2012 at 12:41 pm

reviews from Reuters and Mother Jones

And we know our Mother would never be Jonesin' us.

Lascauxcaveman February 15, 2012 at 1:07 pm

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jonesing
to have a strong need, desire, or craving for something. see also: jones.

I know what your mama's Jonesin' for.

weej_bain February 15, 2012 at 1:13 pm

Get us off that credit – mortgage needle.

Generation[redacted] February 15, 2012 at 2:15 pm

Economy clogged up? Call Reuter-Rooter!

SorosBot February 15, 2012 at 12:41 pm

But according to all the Republican candidates Dodd-Frank must be repealed because the regulations are too stringent and are going to ruin the economy! Ignore the fact that underregulation allowed the financial companies to cause the recession in the first place.

Fare la Volpe February 15, 2012 at 12:48 pm

Nonsense, Soros. Everyone knows that the free market always works always except when it's being strangled by regulation. Ergo, the only times the free market doesn't work are when regulations made it not work right. That's air-tight hobo logic there.

hagajim February 15, 2012 at 12:52 pm

Building a house of fucking cards from turdlike home loans posing as AAA securities was not the cause of the recession, it was those damn loans pushed by the Dems….bwaahaahaaaa. I really wonder how much money these dicks took out of the system during this rampant raping. After the S&L debacle you think we'd remember – but fuck no.

SorosBot February 15, 2012 at 1:11 pm

Hell, you would think we should have learned from the Great Depression; but no, Reagan and the Bushes learned nothing from history and doomed us to repeat it.

tessiee February 15, 2012 at 3:20 pm

i.e., our only hope for the sinking ship is if we hit another iceberg.

Chichikovovich February 15, 2012 at 12:41 pm

This must be a forgery – everyone at Fox says that the Occupy people are just smelly lazy dopes who are only after handouts paid for by the taxes of hard-working Americans.

Fare la Volpe February 15, 2012 at 12:49 pm

And rapists; don't forget rapists.

Chichikovovich February 15, 2012 at 12:58 pm

Quite correct – I was too quick off the mark. I also forgot "rat magnets".

tessiee February 15, 2012 at 3:21 pm

I heard they're reefer addicts.

Jukesgrrl February 16, 2012 at 1:22 am

… who can't BEHAVE THEMSELVES!!!!!!!!!

not that Dewey February 15, 2012 at 1:02 pm

Rapists who play bongos and smoke weed.

tessiee February 15, 2012 at 3:21 pm

And their so-called music is nothing but noise.

Lascauxcaveman February 15, 2012 at 1:01 pm

Heavy on the bongos, weed, patchouli, organic hummus, liberal arts degrees.

Generation[redacted] February 15, 2012 at 2:14 pm

Technically it is 325 pages long, but most of that is padded out with used hypodermic needles.

GOPCrusher February 15, 2012 at 3:53 pm

Damn kids and their reefer sticks.

OC_Surf_Serf February 15, 2012 at 12:42 pm

325-pages is about what people had to sign to get a tainted mortgage and buy into our Great American Scheme

MadBrahms February 15, 2012 at 12:49 pm

324 of that is language making it impossible to sue, and the other remaining page is just "HA HA" printed over and over to fill the space.

actor212 February 15, 2012 at 12:43 pm

Well, now we know how they Occupied Their Time

(see what I did there? Huh? Huh?)

coolhandnuke February 15, 2012 at 12:43 pm

"Edit check, edit check, edit check edit check….

JerkCade February 15, 2012 at 1:45 pm

or maybe "Spell Check! (Spell Check!)"

donner_froh February 15, 2012 at 12:45 pm

Banking should be simple: take deposits from savers and pay them X%, loan those deposits to borrowers at 2X%, figure out a reserve for bad loans, fraud or the collateral burns down.

Anyone who can't make money doing that just needs a new career.

ChernobylSoup February 15, 2012 at 12:54 pm

Bankers used to live by the 2-4-3 rule.

Pay 2% on deposits,
charge 4% on loans,
be at the golf course at 3.

They would make a lot less mischief that way.

Lascauxcaveman February 15, 2012 at 1:04 pm

Yes, but if you follow that formula it may take ten or twenty years to get fabulously wealthy. Who wants to work that long?

tessiee February 15, 2012 at 3:25 pm

"Anyone who can't make money doing that just needs a new career."

This reminds me of the part in "The Gang that couldn't shoot straight", where one of the characters had a car dealership that lost money, even though he stole the cars.

Chillwillard February 15, 2012 at 12:47 pm

Teatards are working on a response…as soon as they upgrade their Microsoft Word 5.5 for DOS….

BaldarTFlagass February 15, 2012 at 12:53 pm

"How come I can't open this document with WordPerfect!?"

tessiee February 15, 2012 at 3:23 pm

Because you need Volkswriter on a Kaypro.

GOPCrusher February 15, 2012 at 3:55 pm

Wordstar! FTW!

bagofmice February 15, 2012 at 5:42 pm

You could get a decent codebehind for formatting on that version!

Schmannnity February 15, 2012 at 12:47 pm

John Corzine says there is already too much job killing Volcker Rules.

MissTaken February 15, 2012 at 12:48 pm

I know what I'm doing this afternoon!

This comment is 100% snark free.

Chichikovovich February 15, 2012 at 12:59 pm

Me too, but I'm not nearly so happy about it.

This comment is 100% snark free.

Edit: Just to be clear – what I'm doing isn't reading the report. Dammit.

SorosBot February 15, 2012 at 1:09 pm

A report like this must be like porn for you accountants. And just think, it's work related!

Steverino247 February 15, 2012 at 1:34 pm

Pssst! Dude! Remind her she doesn't need both hands to read it!

Guppy February 15, 2012 at 1:32 pm

I thought you did laundry yesterday.

MissTaken February 15, 2012 at 1:36 pm

I *need* to do laundry daily.

Guppy February 15, 2012 at 1:42 pm

That's a euphemism for something, isn't it?

paris biltong February 15, 2012 at 1:52 pm

I've downloaded it and have reached page 5 of the pdf document. It's either read or comment.

Terry February 15, 2012 at 12:48 pm

This is fabulous! Now the SEC is going to have to respond to the comment point by point.

How many answers would be "Yes, we agree with you but Wall Street wouldn't like that very much."?

Mahousu February 15, 2012 at 12:54 pm

At the risk of being obvious, "all of them, Katie."

Mahousu February 15, 2012 at 12:48 pm

The SEC was all set to read it but, uh, everybody there came down with the stomach flu.

Beowoof February 15, 2012 at 12:50 pm

I like the idea of a 325 page report . It says to the 1% we 99% know how you fucked us the last time and we aren't going to let you get away with that again. Go Occupiers. Oh and Brietbart is still an asshole.

GOPCrusher February 15, 2012 at 3:58 pm

That and the fact it should shut up the Republiklans/Tea Baggers that keep claiming that the Occupy Movement has no real purpose or demands.

SayItWithWookies February 15, 2012 at 12:52 pm

It's awesome that the OWSers are getting down and geeky with this law, since the details of this sort of financial regulatory structure are the origin of the damn 2007-8 meltdown in the first place. And I hope it does them no discred to say that this comes from someone who almost never knows what state his bank account is in.

Radiotherapy February 15, 2012 at 12:53 pm

I'd read it, except I'm suffering from a case of the stomach flu.

edgydrifter February 15, 2012 at 12:53 pm

DANGER ALERT: Fox says once you get past the first page, the next 324 are filled with subliminal type repeating "Obey Saul Alinsky" and "George Soros Will Decide" over and over on top of a Che Guevara watermark, and that reading it will turn you into an Muslim terrorist! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!

ThundercatHo February 15, 2012 at 1:05 pm

Plus, if you read it backwards it's satan telling you to eat your vegetables.

LionHeartSoyDog February 15, 2012 at 2:57 pm

I don't know about that, but for some reason i want to eat Selba Tegev.

BaldarTFlagass February 15, 2012 at 1:39 pm

Roddy Piper has a pair of glasses that let you just plain fucking see all that shit right out in the open.

Generation[redacted] February 15, 2012 at 2:12 pm

And he's all out of bubble gum…

tessiee February 15, 2012 at 3:28 pm

too bad we weren't all wearing them in 1980.

orygoon February 15, 2012 at 1:50 pm

Tell Fox News to just lie back and enjoy it.

tessiee February 15, 2012 at 3:28 pm

Fortunately for all of us, there's a built in safeguard of preceding the propaganda with several pages of "all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy".

paris biltong February 15, 2012 at 12:54 pm

The SEC asked for "commenter input". Imagine what would happen if Wonkette got a 325-page comment.
Also, from what I've seen over the past few years, the staff at the SEC seems far too dim and/or lazy to make any sense out of this document.

Guppy February 15, 2012 at 1:33 pm

A Wonkette comment extended to 325-pages would be a trashy homoerotic romance novel.

bagofmice February 15, 2012 at 5:45 pm

Remember remember the 5th of blowvember.

LionHeartSoyDog February 15, 2012 at 2:59 pm

Too dim, lazy and/or corrupt…

James Michael Curley February 15, 2012 at 12:56 pm

The last time I read anything which had close to 325 pages it started "It was love at first sight" and ended "The knife came down, missing him by inches, and he took off."

Geminisunmars February 15, 2012 at 12:56 pm

I just can't snark. This has me too thrilled and excited. Power to the 99!

DerrickWildcat February 15, 2012 at 12:56 pm

But Obama wants to make us all use rubbers which is SOCIALISM!!!

Oblios_Cap February 15, 2012 at 1:00 pm

Bring back Glass Steagall!

Radiotherapy February 15, 2012 at 1:18 pm

I hate Phil Gramm.

coolhandnuke February 15, 2012 at 1:10 pm

For fucks sake, occupy a red pencil…even the Unabomber's Manifesto was only 50 pages.

Baconzgood February 15, 2012 at 1:14 pm

Un-related to this post

Bacon's Ma is sick… Baconz pretendz to be sexists and racist, but that is just for the snarky….Baconz Ma made Baconz who he iz today…… Baconz ma said "Be odd. Odd is where it's at! At Neil Simon once said 'never underestimate the stimulation of eccentricity'. That's good advice Baconz. Goof off more and you'll find a good lady"

slithytoves February 15, 2012 at 1:23 pm

Slithytoves wishes Baconz Ma wellness, as her Ma taught her how to be outraged at and in love with the world at the same time, as well as be weird enough to make people laugh.

And Mr. Happy sends his good, innocent cat wishes for health, too.

Baconzgood February 15, 2012 at 1:44 pm

"always be strange" as my ma said. My grand dad said "If you can't laugh at a crippled italian midget then you can't laugh at your self". We came from a wise family.

tessiee February 15, 2012 at 3:30 pm

So I'm inferring that your grandpa was a crippled Italian midget?

Baconzgood February 15, 2012 at 3:48 pm

Green Irish! "You want things done lad you ask Shinn Fein! The IRA never get's shit done" I suspect he might of came to this country under shady circumstances.

James Michael Curley February 15, 2012 at 1:30 pm

Wishing your ma good health. But cut down on the sodium and phosphates.

Baconzgood February 15, 2012 at 1:42 pm

She thanks ya. She is a strange woman. If she knew how to ues the inter web she'd like Wonkette. She liked the Jesus Lizard when I took her to a show on mother's day.

Steverino247 February 15, 2012 at 1:31 pm

Get well soon, Bacon's Ma!

Baconzgood February 15, 2012 at 1:40 pm

Baconz Ma thanks you. She's a neat lady. I was a latch key kid before it was cool.

Steverino247 February 15, 2012 at 1:50 pm

I was kept chained in a dungeon, but we don't talk about it.

Baconzgood February 15, 2012 at 3:08 pm

Would you like to share? 'Cause you can go on Yahoo & do that.

Biff February 15, 2012 at 1:31 pm

Best wishes of health to your Ma. My own mother once had me arrested for owning 4 reefers, from which I learned some valuable lessons, too…

Baconzgood February 15, 2012 at 1:39 pm

Ma don't know what "reefers" are. She calls the reefers "goof balls". She is addicted to sudafed though. But that use to be OVC.

Jukesgrrl February 16, 2012 at 1:26 am

My Pa told me to stay away from angel dust pasta. Pass that good advice along to your Ma. I want her to get better.

MozakiBlocks February 15, 2012 at 1:34 pm

Good thoughts for your Ma.

BaldarTFlagass February 15, 2012 at 1:35 pm

Maybe Prezident Obama can visit Baconz Ma since he can't see Scott Walker.

Seriously, best wishes and good luck with that.

Baconzgood February 15, 2012 at 1:45 pm

OLDZ LIBLE!!!!!!

MissTaken February 15, 2012 at 1:56 pm

Feel better soon, Ma Baconz!

Baconzgood February 15, 2012 at 3:09 pm

It means alot from you MissTaken. I gotta a crush on you. (don't tell LimeyLizzy though)

MissTaken February 15, 2012 at 3:13 pm

Ah shucks!

**blushing**

SorosBot February 15, 2012 at 3:58 pm

*Adds Baconz to the watch list*.

Baconzgood February 15, 2012 at 4:54 pm

STALKING LIBLE!!!!!!!!!!

Radiotherapy February 15, 2012 at 1:21 pm

Not bad for a group of unwashed, pot-smoking, murderer, rapist, hippies. Eh, Mr. Brightfart?!??

Jukesgrrl February 16, 2012 at 1:28 am

Isn't it a wonder they could take time out from their crime spree to type 325 pages?

CommieLibunatic February 15, 2012 at 1:27 pm

Proprietary trading? Is that what it's called? I think I heard about that on Ira Glass's show years ago.

And it's about fucking time that people started paying attention to these schemes. You would think that banking instruments being compared to a Mel Brooks musical would get more traction in the press.

An_Outhouse February 15, 2012 at 1:30 pm

Maybe if those Occupy losers would get a job, they wouldn't be killing trees creating a 325 page bitch session. Get a hoverround, dammit, and go clean up a parking lot.

MozakiBlocks February 15, 2012 at 1:36 pm

"let me explain, no there is too much. Let me sum up!"

SorosBot February 15, 2012 at 1:45 pm

This deserves another thumbs up.

actor212 February 15, 2012 at 2:05 pm

Does it have porn? Cuz if it doesn't have porn, I don't want to sit through 325 pages.

Even just a little furry action. That's OK.

Generation[redacted] February 15, 2012 at 2:10 pm

Participating in the rule-making process by submitting extensive public comments, in hopes to effect change in how government works?

Wouldn't it be more effective just to gather a bunch of people in costumes, carrying guns and misspelled signs expressing vague outrage at an imagined loss of freedom?

tessiee February 15, 2012 at 3:32 pm

If by "effective", you mean, "corporations throwing ass tons of money at them", then yes.

Sassomatic February 15, 2012 at 2:13 pm

These kids need to take a shower and get a job, then they would't have time to sit around "commenting" on things that are none of their business, like the economy.

tessiee February 15, 2012 at 3:24 pm

I'm finding this exceedingly difficult to masturbate to.
And it's kinda long, too.

GOPCrusher February 15, 2012 at 3:56 pm

Huzzah!

ttommyunger February 15, 2012 at 9:13 pm

325 pages? It better start with: "It was a dark and stormy night….." and have lots of sexytime and some-such.

lulzmonger February 16, 2012 at 4:05 am

The SEC's response: tl;dr.

not that Dewey February 15, 2012 at 12:59 pm

That's the problem with the rapier wit of our commenters — some threads are just rapier than others.

fuflans February 16, 2012 at 12:26 am

wishing your mum many years of jameson and joyce.

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