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Fox News Fool: Women in the Military Should ‘Expect’ to Get Raped

Now that we’re done talking about the sacred baby-making bodies of women and how wrong it is to want to help teenagers not ruin their lives and go on MTV to share the ruination with millions, Thinking America has moved on to the military, with the help of useless lump of matter Rick Santorum, to discuss how ridiculous it is that women want to work, let alone on the front lines, let alone in planes bigger than “small planes,” they being the only size of plane fit for the delicate flowers that make up half our population, according to Ricky. Now the insane Liz Trotta has gone on Fox News to defend freaks like Santorum, saying that women should “expect” to get raped or assaulted in the military because, well, “these people are in close contact.”

In a strange, almost human new trend for this network, the host of the show, Eric Shawn, actually tried to knock some sense into Trotta. Her response was “Nice try.” Then she did that whole conservative shtick about how women in the military is one of these really important issues that everyone tries not to talk about. Or just has “accidentally” talked about in a sane and rational way since the beginning of time.

Speaking about a sex abuse report ordered by Secretary Panetta, Trotta distilled the results of the report thusly:

I think they have actually discovered there is a difference between men and women.

Wow, really?

And the sexual abuse report says that there has been, since 2006, a 64% increase in violent sexual assaults. Now, what did they expect? These people are in close contact, the whole airing of this issue has never been done by Congress, it’s strictly been a question of pressure from the feminist.

Trotta goes on to say the the whooooole problem is the “bureaucracy” of having an organizational structure that actually helps women in the military out.

And the feminists have also directed them, really, to spend a lot of money. They have sexual counselors all over the place, victims’ advocates, sexual response coordinators. … So, you have this whole bureaucracy upon bureaucracy being built up with all kinds of levels of people to support women in the military who are now being raped too much.

So basically it’s all just a crazy self-fulfilling prophesy, and if we got rid of all these awful cynical people who advise and protect abuse victims, abuse wouldn’t happen at all! So while we’re at it, let’s get rid of firefighters, the police, and hey, why not the military. People die and houses go up in flames and wars break out because all this bureaucracy is just sitting around like a bunch of assholes waiting for this stuff to happen. [ThinkProgress]

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  • BaldarTFlagass

    "Lieutenant, seek life elsewhere."
    "Suck my dick! "

  • http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/ Madfall

    "So, you have this whole bureaucracy upon bureaucracy being built up with all kinds of levels of people to support women in the military who are now being raped too much."

    And it was then that my head exploded.

    • MissTaken

      I guess you can have too much of a good thing?

      • http://wonkette.com Dr_pangloss

        "Robbery, Rape, Murder, Rape."

        "You said 'Rape' twice."

        "I like Rape."

      • Redhead

        Only if it's by an ape. At least, according to McCain.

    • HarryButtle

      Yea, exactly how much rape is just enough?

      • CapnFatback

        You'll know when you fall in rape. Oh believe me, you'll know.

        • Blueb4sunrise

          When I fall in rape, it'll be forever.

          • Swampgas_Man

            I never fall in rape, because I wear anti-skid boots.

          • Blueb4sunrise

            I'll never fall in rape agaain.

          • bikerlaureate

            Next time I fall in rape
            I'll know better what to do.

          • lefty74

            "Its hard to fall in love with good looking women because you always want to bone them."
            "So you can only be friends with unattractive women then?"
            "No! We pretty much want to bone them too."

          • CapnFatback

            If you can't be with the one you rape, rape the one you're with.

          • Sparky MacGyver

            Rape, rape me do! You know, I'll rape you!

          • CapnFatback

            I'll always use lube! So pleeeeeaaasssseeeee . . .

          • Generation[redacted]

            She rapes you yeah yeah yeah!

          • Ramon X

            Rape is all you need?

          • http://wonkette.com/ slowhansolo

            Have you seen your raping, baby, standing in the shadows?

          • bikerlaureate

            Rape another little piece of my heart, now, baby.

          • bikerlaureate

            I would do anything for rape
            But I won't do that.

          • bikerlaureate

            Stop
            in the Name of Rape
            before you make me cry.

          • bikerlaureate

            Falling in rape again,
            Never wanted to,
            What am I to do?
            I can't help it.

      • http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/ Madfall

        An excellent, if vile question.

    • http://www.vinoverve.com Maman

      Is it possible to get a brain bleaching to clean up this mess of a memory?

      • ItsMrTheOwl2You

        Of course! But remember, There's always room for Rape!

  • chascates

    Fox News has been fucking women for about ten years now.

    • Smithboy

      She also suggested in 2008 that Obama should be assassinated. Helen Thomas was fired for much less, while this idiot will continue to spout this kind of garbage over at Fox, the network who's motto is.."We hear you talking!"

  • http://gratuity.wordpress.com/ Gratuitous World

    just like cavalry is no longer prevalent because they couldn't stop fucking those majestic animals.

  • Douché

    Just like those countries with the brown people should expect to be attacked if they aren't going to democratize themselves. Yay wars!!

  • ChernobylSoup

    But did you see that class A service uniform she was wearing? She so had it coming.

    • http://wonkette.com Dr_pangloss

      I love a woman in a near shapeless green pair of pajamas myself (the new BDUs) so sexy I can't resist Raping them.

  • tihond

    Fox News: Soldier Rape, it's boys-will-be-boys essentially.

    • Redhead

      Fox News: Any rape, it's boys-will-be-boys-they-know-they-liked-it, essentially.

    • Guppy

      Actually, my takeaway from Fox News here is "The Troops are all rapists."

      • doloras

        YOU SAY THAT AS IF IT WERE A BAD THING. Trust me, when our brave lads are out there rapin' the browns before they come to rape you, they'll be welcomed as masturbators. I mean liberators.

  • http://wonkette.com Chillwillard

    You know who else should also "expect" to get raped? The facts, by Fox News.

  • OC_Surf_Serf

    Power, Bureaucracy, Rape. Who new the Military had so much in common with the Vatican?

    …and blaming Feminists? Fuck, this is the 12th flashback to 1973 this week!!

  • OC_Surf_Serf

    Next up, those Feminists will want the Vote, too.

    • pbrex

      And they'll be wearing pants! O the humanity.

    • Veritas78

      Only the extreme feminists. Like the ones who oppose rape.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/30500320@N06/ DerrickWildcat

    If you are maybe a girl Astronaut, a girl Fox employee or perhaps a girl Postal worker, you should also expect to be raped.

    • http://simplyleftbehind.blogspot.com/ actor212

      Unless you're Liz Trotta, of course.

      Oh, well, he can expect it. Ain't never gonna happen, but she can expect it.

    • http://whatisawatthedevolution.blogspot.com imissopus

      NASA really needs to do more research on zero-g rape in preparation for humans one day making long interstellar journeys.

    • Guppy

      I think the postal workers of either sex are getting raped enough by Congress as it is.

  • MissTaken

    I'm also sure if we got rid of the Weight Watchers and Jenny Craig bureaucracies we wouldn't have obesity, either. Logic is fun!

  • Pragmatist2

    And people who go on Fox News should "expect to get stupid" because they are "in close contact with those people."

  • CapnFatback

    Expecting to get raped?

    Sounds like someone read The Secret.

    • MathIsHard

      I can only upfist once, but I am still fisting this comment in my heart.

      • CapnFatback

        My heart is open to your heart's fist anytime.

  • http://gratuity.wordpress.com/ Gratuitous World

    at least she offers a moment of transparency on what deferred GOP-Hawks really think about the troops, saying:
    "That’s funny, I thought the mission of the Army, and the Navy, and four services was to defend and protect us, not the people who were fighting the war."

    hilarious! she should open for John Bolton next time at Zany's.

  • BaldarTFlagass

    "I couldn't help myself, Captain. She had on those camouflage panties and all I could think about was getting back into the bush!"

  • Goonemeritus

    She needs to get fired, no apology or time off covers this. And were it possible you ladies out there need to drum here out of the guild.

    • ThundercatHo

      They already have their own guild, it's called "Stupid Cunts".

  • orygoon

    And rapists should expect their dicks to be cut off.

    And people like this should be thrown into a vast cesspool–I mean, a real one.

    • http://wonkette.com/ weej_bain

      Castration using an anvil with a 3 pound hammer is another option.

  • SorosBot

    So apparently to this fuckhead rape is only a problem in the military if we know about it. Asshole. I guess that child rape by priests is all the fault of those victims coming forward; if only the Church had been able to keep covering them up everything would be fine.

    • http://dismalpseudoscientist.wordpress.com Negligently_Joe

      I mean, this has actually been the position of the church, for a while?

    • http://gratuity.wordpress.com/ Gratuitous World

      i've been saying all along the problem with pedophilia is 'sexy kids.'

    • Generation[redacted]

      Some of the children were getting raped too much, but that doesn't mean we have to talk about it!

  • Sue4466

    She also said the purpose of the military is "to defend and protect us, not the people who were fighting the war." Guess that'll be nice comfort to those soldiers who came home with missing limbs and brain injuries from a lack of body or vehicle armor. Suck it up soldiers, this war is SO not about you.

    • MosesInvests

      Any combat soldier will tell you that in combat you're thinking of exactly two things:
      A: saving your own ass.
      B: saving your buddy's ass.
      Anyone who says he/she was filled with patriotic zeal in combat is lying or delusional.
      This comment 100% snark-free.

      • Sue4466

        The soldiers/marines I've known who've fought in combat have always been less willing to talk about the "glory of war" than people who've never been in combat. I think that's because they know glory's got nothing to do with it.

        And yes, snark free.

    • Guppy

      You don't think the GOP wouldn't cut VA to fund the DOD?

  • CapnFatback

    As the old saying goes, "There are no atheists or non-rapists in a foxhole."

  • MissTaken

    I know on days when I expect to be raped I like to spritz a little extra perfume to make it special occasion for him.

    • CapnFatback

      Right? I mean he's putting forth all the effort, after all.

    • Guppy

      Is that your special way of letting him know you're "asking for it?"

    • ItsMrTheOwl2You

      Is that the new Parfum de Forcible Love? I've heard it's got phermones to attract possible rapists when you are in close quarters. But be careful! If you use the scented lotion and the perfume together, you might get raped *too* much that day.

  • http://www.vinoverve.com Maman

    What a bunch of whiney bitches these ladies soldiers are! Imagine objecting to rape. Shouldn't they be lying back and thinking about England?

  • Sue4466

    Why does Trotta hate the troops? What else explains her view that they're just one close contact away from committing a felony?

  • http://wonkette.com ManchuCandidate

    I can sort of understand if the Trots said "if you are captured by the enemy."

    By your own? Hell no.

  • BlackRhino

    I was in the Army, ohhh about a lifetime ago. Met me some fine female military types, which in due course raped me. Ohhh the wish to be young again….

  • chicken_thief

    Liz just wants to think that that is what happens. As she dreams that she to is in uniform… and oh-no! here comes a platoon of sweaty soldiers, ready to force her to succumb to their every desire….

    • http://simplyleftbehind.blogspot.com/ actor212

      She must read some really weird Barbara Cartland rejects.

      • BarryOPotter

        Or LimeyLizzy blog posts

  • V572 Flambé

    Fat old bags like "Liz" von Trotha are just the sort of people who should be making policy about military training and deployment policy. Fifty years ago she'd have been saying, "The Negro is essentially a coward and will be unable to perform in combat."

    Yes, those healthy young people are going to be fucking each other once in a while, or every chance they get. "Consent" will arguable in many cases. This is so different from civilian life!

  • http://wonkette.com/ weej_bain

    Speaking of serial intellectual rapists, AyeBeeCeee reports Rickey is taking his turn on top.

    • Sparky MacGyver

      Actually, it's more like Mitt's turn in the barrel again.

  • Callyson

    The 1% should “expect” to get robbed or assaulted in the banks because, well, “these people have all the money.”
    /fixed

    • mrpuma2u

      People in Bentleys and Rolls Royces should expect to get carjacked. Did Trotta get jacked and hit upside the head with a tire iron? That would explain this comment, sort of.

  • Crank_Tango

    Ya know it happens, ya get guys and gals together in close quarters, and guys get a little rapey.
    WTF is wrong with our soldiers? Jesus f'ing C. We are breaking the shit out of them, aren't we?

    • James Michael Curley

      As everyone knows I'm a veteran from Viet Nam. Yet I am beginning to dread the aftermath of the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts. Tens of thousands of guys coming home to a world that wants them to go away. The rise of Republican 'values' which is hell bent of terminating housing assistance, medicaid, job placement aid, unemployment (can't collect anymore when discharged) and drastic cuts in military benefits to families, retirees and veterans sitting in Congress right now. At least in the late '60's I got everything I could screw up my courage to ask for and still I knew one guy who went Rambo on us.

  • GunToting[Redacted]

    But, she was wearing those "fuck-me" combat boots! I couldn't control myself!

  • mavenmaven

    1. Cut support for psychologists and medical care for women in the military.
    2. Cut medical care for anyone who served in the military, "injuries are expected to happen"
    3. Cut medical care for everyone, kill the NIH and their atheist science
    4. Remind everyone that the only help for medical problem is Jesus.
    5. Entirely cut taxes for the rich.

    • 40 or 50 % McShineys

      Need I ask where "Profit" fits?

  • edgydrifter

    Women who don't want to get raped shouldn't have chosen to be born women.

  • orygoon

    This pegs off the vomit meter.

    Damn her to hell.

  • CivicHoliday

    Is she secretly a high-ranking Catholic official? Ignore the problem and it will go away. Pay no mind to the sad little alter boys…

  • Thurman Munster IV

    All we need is more saltpeter in the MREs, problem solved

  • Lionel[redacted]Esq

    God knows, whenever I'm in close contact with a women, all I can think about is raping her.

    I assume this is why on the Space Shuttle and the ISS there are so many rapes, given the constant close contact between men and women.

    • James Michael Curley

      That's not the reason there is no sex on the Space Shuttle or Space Station. A good, old fashion tryst would send the thing spinning out of control to Jupiter. Didn't you see 2002: A Space Porno?

  • L188188

    Anyone have the stats on pillaging? I'll bet that's through the roof too.

  • SayItWithWookies

    Not only is the statement about the bureaucracy causing rape outrageous, but so is Trotta's subtext that obviously our all-volunteer male members of the military just can't have any possible idea where the boundaries of acceptable behavior lie.

    Now we certainly go a long way towards confirming that accusation when we (as a nation) send our soldiers to pointless wars without a definite mission in a faraway country just to get blown up randomly as they patrol the streets and gradually approach a level of insanity that would be considered non-functional in civilian life and then keep pushing them even further — but that's a function of doing horrible, inhuman, sadistic things to our soldiers for the glory of our politicians and their oil company cronies — NOT a result of giving actual human counseling to other human beings.

    • Ramon X

      Used to be the trogs would only occasionally slip up and be themselves. They do seem to be getting bolder. It might be that boiled frog thing.

  • BaldarTFlagass

    "All the chicks you can rape" needs to be removed from the list of enticements that recruiters use to encourage young men to enlist in the Army. Free college and defending your country should be enough.

    • http://www.vinoverve.com Maman

      All the AMERICAN chicks you can rape. We don't like to be responsible for bad PR in other countries

  • MissTaken

    No one expects the Spanish Inquisition, but you should expect the rapey-time.

    • SorosBot

      It's just a fact of life; we can't actually take steps to prevent rape, blame the rapists for their acts, or try to change the culture that still blames the victims if they've ever had sex in their lives, had a few drinks or otherwise ever enjoyed themselves. No apparently in Trottaland we're supposed to just expect and accept rape. Motherfucking shit-for-brains woman who hates women.

  • sunmusing

    Oh great, now we will have "foxhole" babies to go with "anchor" babies. The shit just doesn't stop.

  • OkieDokieDog

    Liz seems to have led a very sheltered life (one far far away from reality) if she thinks that any woman should expect to be raped – and then just forget about it. No biggie. Hey Liz, here's an idea for ya, how about telling men rape is a crime and will not be tolerated in the military.
    I know, way too radical and liberal for you, right, Liz?

  • BaldarTFlagass

    This is what Rubens was trying to warn us about when he painted "The Rape of the Marine Women."

    • http://simplyleftbehind.blogspot.com/ actor212

      Pee Wee Herman??

    • James Michael Curley

      Didn't Paul Rubens also do "Keep it Under Your Hat, Jack"

      • 40 or 50 % McShineys

        He may have left his comma out, though.

  • SoBeach

    That woman is putting one over on Fox, right? I'll give her this much, her deadpan delivery of that vileness almost had me going for a minute.

    Fox is going to be PISSED when they realize they've been duped.

    Wait, what? Oh come on. Really?

  • GunToting[Redacted]

    I actually watched the video finally, and all I can say is:

    That CUNT.

    For FUCK'S sake, where do these people congeal? Does she advocate separating males and females in colleges and the workplace, due to the comingling in a high-stress environment (don't answer that).

  • http://facethesuncastnoshadow.wordpress.com/ Mumbletypeg

    the credits in the sidebar indicate Trotta is the "first woman to cover a war for broadcast news"??

    So she's been around a while yet hasn't learned how *not* to discredit her sex.
    Someone get her a valentine's cupcake, handed to her personally by a lean, learned man of honor, and a soundbite op wherein she articulates her wishes for women this day honoring Love. Then, honor Love further by locking this fruit-bat up in a room full of rape and incest survivors where she must articulate again, these same baseless notions, to her company, over & over until they come untrue.

    • GunToting[Redacted]

      Is it common practice at Fox "News" to run a person's CV when they appear? I suppose when the person is as batshit insane as Trotta, even the normal Fox audience needs to be assured that the person speaking isn't a schizophrenic homeless person or a recent head trauma sufferer.

    • Sue4466

      Also, if she was a woman war correspondent, she was presumably surrounded by male war correspondents. Does that mean she should have been expected to be raped?

      Of course the answer to that is NO. Because her entire premise is complete bullshit.

  • HarryButtle

    But, if guys in combat get all rapey, and there aren't any wimminz around, won't they turn to the ghey?

    • http://www.vinoverve.com Maman

      That is the temporary kind. Like in prison.

    • GOPCrusher

      I wish these people would make up their fucking minds. First they whined that the repeal of DADT would turn our soldiers into ghey ass pirates, butt sexing each other all day and night, now they are concerned that the wimmens will get raped.
      With all this military sexytime going on, when do we find time to fight?

    • chicken_thief

      Women sheep first. Then the geyh.

      Or so I was told….

  • Lionel[redacted]Esq

    FOX News: We like the Rape!

    • http://wonkette.com Chillwillard

      "We Rape, you Decide!"

  • http://wonkette.com/ Sharkey

    ♫ Rape is natural, rape is good. ♫
    ♫ Not everybody does it, but everybody should. ♫

  • WhatTheHolyHeck

    I'm sure keeping out the gays and lowering the military's recruitment standards has nothing to do with the increase in violent sexual assault.

  • meatlofer

    Have a little class,will ya? WHITNEY IS DEAD!!!!

  • Not_So_Much

    Is it sexist if I have an urge to punch her in the twat?

  • DaRooster

    Don't Tell Don't Ask.

  • BigDumbRedDog

    In general women wearing camo are just asking for it. Sluts.

  • http://simplyleftbehind.blogspot.com/ actor212

    I'm confused: if all these broads are getting monthly infections in their ditches, who'd want to rape the skanks?

  • Joshua Norton

    the delicate flowers that make up half our population,

    Are we supposed to imagine June Cleaver in a fox hole?

    Send over all the "Real Housewives" casts. Those bitchez be crazeee, yo!

    • http://johnnyzhivago.blogspot.com johnnyzhivago

      Kardashians Join the Army! What a show!

    • bikerlaureate

      I'd follow Ellen Ripley anywhere. Just sayin'.

  • joobajooba

    Doesn't the military have teh gayz to rape now.? Women will be safe, I think.

  • http://johnnyzhivago.blogspot.com johnnyzhivago

    People who listen to Fox News should expect to get bullshitted!

    • GOPCrusher

      Brain raped!

  • CapnFatback

    Trotta's right. Before the U.S. military got there, Sadaam Hussein's rape rooms were just called "rooms."

  • IceCreamEmpress

    The answer is clear. Have the military get rid of all its straight dudes! PROBLEM SOLVED.

    h/t Golda Meir

  • joobajooba

    Trotta's credential as "Former New York bureau chief of the Washington Times" is not exactly on the same journalistic level as "Former Washington bureau chief of the New York Times"

  • ElPinche

    Liz should prove her point. She should flak up and go to the frontline in Afghannystan and wait to get raped. Fortunately for Liz, I bet even the terrorists would say no to that old wombat. BTW, its funny how straight faced these morons on FN are when presenting these fucked up inane stories.

  • http://archikvetch.blogspot.com/ archikvetch

    "Being raped too much" – what a cow.

  • http://whatisawatthedevolution.blogspot.com imissopus

    All these poor women – they join the military in order to find a husband, and instead the men just rape rape rape them, all the livelong day.

  • Ducksworthy

    Women in combat roles should all be like Liz, hopelessly hoping someone, anyone, will rape them. Only they're not so she's mad at them. The end.

  • fuflans

    happy valentine's day!

  • BTWBFDIMHO

    I love the smell of rape in the morning.

  • http://loljazzcatz.blogspot.com/ Chet Kincaid

    "The forces of the New Caliphate have broken through our lines, Sir!! The male soldiers who weren't blubbering at the sight of helpless women had left their posts to rape them!"

  • Exhausted66

    Why is this woman allowed to talk on the TeeVee?
    That's a man's job.

  • BTWBFDIMHO

    I think they have actually discovered there is a difference between men and women.

    Indeed, men are masculine, and women are más culonas.

  • Schmegeg

    Liz Trotta should soooo enlist. She looks like she needs a good cleansing rape session.

  • BarackMyWorld

    I like how they stuck "commentary" up in the corner, as if that's not the entirety of their programming.

  • BarackMyWorld

    I almost feel bad for her designated straight-man Eric Shawn, for having to come on at the end there and try to be reasonable with her…almost.

  • Redhead

    I've started a new game: Guess whether the story is from The Onion or from Not The Onion.

    I found my next entry. No one's winning, though.

  • kissawookiee

    You go to war with the army you have, not the army you wish you had, which, apparently, only involves not getting raped if you're some pussy woman or homo or something.

  • Steverino247

    Why is this whore not wearing a burqa? Will not some member of the Trotta family kill her and restore the family honor?

    It's the same thinking, folks.

  • MadBrahms

    Good lord, first Breitbart has his CPAC tantrum about Occupiers raping America, and now this. At least Trotta isn't being flippant, even if it's the same horrible hyperbole.

    Rape is the new Hitler, in politics, hooray.

  • ItsMrTheOwl2You

    Oh, all you Extreme Feminists and your silly belief that you have a right to your own bodies and to not be sexually violated! Silly little feminists, your vaginas exist only for the pleasure of menfolk!

  • wolvenwood13

    Ms. Trotta's comments aren't only offensive to women; she is basically saying that men can't control themselves around women. She makes men out to be barbaric monsters who aren't responsible for their actions when they're around women simply because they just can't control themselves. The men should be up in arms as well.

  • http://strangestoriesaboutsadpeople.blogspot.com/ Thedongsofwar

    She seeks to bring rape down to acceptable levels.

  • 40 or 50 % McShineys

    Liz Trotta is wrecking everything for the soldiers. If women begin to expect to get raped, it totally ruins the surprise. I mean, who wants to rape someone who is just pretending to be terrified? I know I sure don't.

  • horsedreamer_1

    FOX News endorses 3rd party insurgent GG Allin. "Beaten, Raped, & Strangled" to be campaign theme.

  • ttommyunger

    Liz Trotta: never seen a high hard one in the flesh. Sure would like to, but it just ain't gonna happen, Liz, fuggettaboutit!

  • Slim_Pickins

    These sexual assaults on women are the direct result of allowing gay men to serve openly!

  • IndianaKevin

    Close proximity is pretty much a defining characteristic of civilization, so let the sexual-assault free-for-all begin!

  • Catabite

    I work in close contact with plenty of people, some of them women, and somehow I manage not to rape them. Hell, I even lived with a few actual human women, and they somehow remained miraculously unmolested. Maybe I'm just defective.