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Fox News Fool: Women in the Military Should ‘Expect’ to Get Raped

Now that we’re done talking about the sacred baby-making bodies of women and how wrong it is to want to help teenagers not ruin their lives and go on MTV to share the ruination with millions, Thinking America has moved on to the military, with the help of useless lump of matter Rick Santorum, to discuss how ridiculous it is that women want to work, let alone on the front lines, let alone in planes bigger than “small planes,” they being the only size of plane fit for the delicate flowers that make up half our population, according to Ricky. Now the insane Liz Trotta has gone on Fox News to defend freaks like Santorum, saying that women should “expect” to get raped or assaulted in the military because, well, “these people are in close contact.”

In a strange, almost human new trend for this network, the host of the show, Eric Shawn, actually tried to knock some sense into Trotta. Her response was “Nice try.” Then she did that whole conservative shtick about how women in the military is one of these really important issues that everyone tries not to talk about. Or just has “accidentally” talked about in a sane and rational way since the beginning of time.

Speaking about a sex abuse report ordered by Secretary Panetta, Trotta distilled the results of the report thusly:

I think they have actually discovered there is a difference between men and women.

Wow, really?

And the sexual abuse report says that there has been, since 2006, a 64% increase in violent sexual assaults. Now, what did they expect? These people are in close contact, the whole airing of this issue has never been done by Congress, it’s strictly been a question of pressure from the feminist.

Trotta goes on to say the the whooooole problem is the “bureaucracy” of having an organizational structure that actually helps women in the military out.

And the feminists have also directed them, really, to spend a lot of money. They have sexual counselors all over the place, victims’ advocates, sexual response coordinators. … So, you have this whole bureaucracy upon bureaucracy being built up with all kinds of levels of people to support women in the military who are now being raped too much.

So basically it’s all just a crazy self-fulfilling prophesy, and if we got rid of all these awful cynical people who advise and protect abuse victims, abuse wouldn’t happen at all! So while we’re at it, let’s get rid of firefighters, the police, and hey, why not the military. People die and houses go up in flames and wars break out because all this bureaucracy is just sitting around like a bunch of assholes waiting for this stuff to happen. [ThinkProgress]

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  1. Madfall

    "So, you have this whole bureaucracy upon bureaucracy being built up with all kinds of levels of people to support women in the military who are now being raped too much."

    And it was then that my head exploded.

          1. lefty74

            "Its hard to fall in love with good looking women because you always want to bone them."
            "So you can only be friends with unattractive women then?"
            "No! We pretty much want to bone them too."

    1. Smithboy

      She also suggested in 2008 that Obama should be assassinated. Helen Thomas was fired for much less, while this idiot will continue to spout this kind of garbage over at Fox, the network who's motto is.."We hear you talking!"

  2. Douché

    Just like those countries with the brown people should expect to be attacked if they aren't going to democratize themselves. Yay wars!!

      1. doloras

        YOU SAY THAT AS IF IT WERE A BAD THING. Trust me, when our brave lads are out there rapin' the browns before they come to rape you, they'll be welcomed as masturbators. I mean liberators.

  3. OC_Surf_Serf

    Power, Bureaucracy, Rape. Who new the Military had so much in common with the Vatican?

    …and blaming Feminists? Fuck, this is the 12th flashback to 1973 this week!!

  4. MissTaken

    I'm also sure if we got rid of the Weight Watchers and Jenny Craig bureaucracies we wouldn't have obesity, either. Logic is fun!

  5. Pragmatist2

    And people who go on Fox News should "expect to get stupid" because they are "in close contact with those people."

  6. Gratuitous World

    at least she offers a moment of transparency on what deferred GOP-Hawks really think about the troops, saying:
    "That’s funny, I thought the mission of the Army, and the Navy, and four services was to defend and protect us, not the people who were fighting the war."

    hilarious! she should open for John Bolton next time at Zany's.

  7. BaldarTFlagass

    "I couldn't help myself, Captain. She had on those camouflage panties and all I could think about was getting back into the bush!"

  8. Goonemeritus

    She needs to get fired, no apology or time off covers this. And were it possible you ladies out there need to drum here out of the guild.

  9. orygoon

    And rapists should expect their dicks to be cut off.

    And people like this should be thrown into a vast cesspool–I mean, a real one.

  10. SorosBot

    So apparently to this fuckhead rape is only a problem in the military if we know about it. Asshole. I guess that child rape by priests is all the fault of those victims coming forward; if only the Church had been able to keep covering them up everything would be fine.

    1. Generation[redacted]

      Some of the children were getting raped too much, but that doesn't mean we have to talk about it!

  11. Sue4466

    She also said the purpose of the military is "to defend and protect us, not the people who were fighting the war." Guess that'll be nice comfort to those soldiers who came home with missing limbs and brain injuries from a lack of body or vehicle armor. Suck it up soldiers, this war is SO not about you.

    1. MosesInvests

      Any combat soldier will tell you that in combat you're thinking of exactly two things:
      A: saving your own ass.
      B: saving your buddy's ass.
      Anyone who says he/she was filled with patriotic zeal in combat is lying or delusional.
      This comment 100% snark-free.

      1. Sue4466

        The soldiers/marines I've known who've fought in combat have always been less willing to talk about the "glory of war" than people who've never been in combat. I think that's because they know glory's got nothing to do with it.

        And yes, snark free.

  12. MissTaken

    I know on days when I expect to be raped I like to spritz a little extra perfume to make it special occasion for him.

    1. ItsMrTheOwl2You

      Is that the new Parfum de Forcible Love? I've heard it's got phermones to attract possible rapists when you are in close quarters. But be careful! If you use the scented lotion and the perfume together, you might get raped *too* much that day.

  13. Maman

    What a bunch of whiney bitches these ladies soldiers are! Imagine objecting to rape. Shouldn't they be lying back and thinking about England?

  14. Sue4466

    Why does Trotta hate the troops? What else explains her view that they're just one close contact away from committing a felony?

  15. BlackRhino

    I was in the Army, ohhh about a lifetime ago. Met me some fine female military types, which in due course raped me. Ohhh the wish to be young again….

  16. chicken_thief

    Liz just wants to think that that is what happens. As she dreams that she to is in uniform… and oh-no! here comes a platoon of sweaty soldiers, ready to force her to succumb to their every desire….

  17. V572 Flambé

    Fat old bags like "Liz" von Trotha are just the sort of people who should be making policy about military training and deployment policy. Fifty years ago she'd have been saying, "The Negro is essentially a coward and will be unable to perform in combat."

    Yes, those healthy young people are going to be fucking each other once in a while, or every chance they get. "Consent" will arguable in many cases. This is so different from civilian life!

  18. Callyson

    The 1% should “expect” to get robbed or assaulted in the banks because, well, “these people have all the money.”

    1. mrpuma2u

      People in Bentleys and Rolls Royces should expect to get carjacked. Did Trotta get jacked and hit upside the head with a tire iron? That would explain this comment, sort of.

  19. Crank_Tango

    Ya know it happens, ya get guys and gals together in close quarters, and guys get a little rapey.
    WTF is wrong with our soldiers? Jesus f'ing C. We are breaking the shit out of them, aren't we?

    1. James Michael Curley

      As everyone knows I'm a veteran from Viet Nam. Yet I am beginning to dread the aftermath of the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts. Tens of thousands of guys coming home to a world that wants them to go away. The rise of Republican 'values' which is hell bent of terminating housing assistance, medicaid, job placement aid, unemployment (can't collect anymore when discharged) and drastic cuts in military benefits to families, retirees and veterans sitting in Congress right now. At least in the late '60's I got everything I could screw up my courage to ask for and still I knew one guy who went Rambo on us.

  20. mavenmaven

    1. Cut support for psychologists and medical care for women in the military.
    2. Cut medical care for anyone who served in the military, "injuries are expected to happen"
    3. Cut medical care for everyone, kill the NIH and their atheist science
    4. Remind everyone that the only help for medical problem is Jesus.
    5. Entirely cut taxes for the rich.

  21. CivicHoliday

    Is she secretly a high-ranking Catholic official? Ignore the problem and it will go away. Pay no mind to the sad little alter boys…

  22. Lionel[redacted]Esq

    God knows, whenever I'm in close contact with a women, all I can think about is raping her.

    I assume this is why on the Space Shuttle and the ISS there are so many rapes, given the constant close contact between men and women.

    1. James Michael Curley

      That's not the reason there is no sex on the Space Shuttle or Space Station. A good, old fashion tryst would send the thing spinning out of control to Jupiter. Didn't you see 2002: A Space Porno?

  23. SayItWithWookies

    Not only is the statement about the bureaucracy causing rape outrageous, but so is Trotta's subtext that obviously our all-volunteer male members of the military just can't have any possible idea where the boundaries of acceptable behavior lie.

    Now we certainly go a long way towards confirming that accusation when we (as a nation) send our soldiers to pointless wars without a definite mission in a faraway country just to get blown up randomly as they patrol the streets and gradually approach a level of insanity that would be considered non-functional in civilian life and then keep pushing them even further — but that's a function of doing horrible, inhuman, sadistic things to our soldiers for the glory of our politicians and their oil company cronies — NOT a result of giving actual human counseling to other human beings.

    1. Ramon X

      Used to be the trogs would only occasionally slip up and be themselves. They do seem to be getting bolder. It might be that boiled frog thing.

  24. BaldarTFlagass

    "All the chicks you can rape" needs to be removed from the list of enticements that recruiters use to encourage young men to enlist in the Army. Free college and defending your country should be enough.

    1. SorosBot

      It's just a fact of life; we can't actually take steps to prevent rape, blame the rapists for their acts, or try to change the culture that still blames the victims if they've ever had sex in their lives, had a few drinks or otherwise ever enjoyed themselves. No apparently in Trottaland we're supposed to just expect and accept rape. Motherfucking shit-for-brains woman who hates women.

  25. OkieDokieDog

    Liz seems to have led a very sheltered life (one far far away from reality) if she thinks that any woman should expect to be raped – and then just forget about it. No biggie. Hey Liz, here's an idea for ya, how about telling men rape is a crime and will not be tolerated in the military.
    I know, way too radical and liberal for you, right, Liz?

  26. BaldarTFlagass

    This is what Rubens was trying to warn us about when he painted "The Rape of the Marine Women."

  27. SoBeach

    That woman is putting one over on Fox, right? I'll give her this much, her deadpan delivery of that vileness almost had me going for a minute.

    Fox is going to be PISSED when they realize they've been duped.

    Wait, what? Oh come on. Really?

  28. GunToting[Redacted]

    I actually watched the video finally, and all I can say is:

    That CUNT.

    For FUCK'S sake, where do these people congeal? Does she advocate separating males and females in colleges and the workplace, due to the comingling in a high-stress environment (don't answer that).

  29. Mumbletypeg

    the credits in the sidebar indicate Trotta is the "first woman to cover a war for broadcast news"??

    So she's been around a while yet hasn't learned how *not* to discredit her sex.
    Someone get her a valentine's cupcake, handed to her personally by a lean, learned man of honor, and a soundbite op wherein she articulates her wishes for women this day honoring Love. Then, honor Love further by locking this fruit-bat up in a room full of rape and incest survivors where she must articulate again, these same baseless notions, to her company, over & over until they come untrue.

    1. GunToting[Redacted]

      Is it common practice at Fox "News" to run a person's CV when they appear? I suppose when the person is as batshit insane as Trotta, even the normal Fox audience needs to be assured that the person speaking isn't a schizophrenic homeless person or a recent head trauma sufferer.

    2. Sue4466

      Also, if she was a woman war correspondent, she was presumably surrounded by male war correspondents. Does that mean she should have been expected to be raped?

      Of course the answer to that is NO. Because her entire premise is complete bullshit.

  30. HarryButtle

    But, if guys in combat get all rapey, and there aren't any wimminz around, won't they turn to the ghey?

    1. GOPCrusher

      I wish these people would make up their fucking minds. First they whined that the repeal of DADT would turn our soldiers into ghey ass pirates, butt sexing each other all day and night, now they are concerned that the wimmens will get raped.
      With all this military sexytime going on, when do we find time to fight?

  31. WhatTheHolyHeck

    I'm sure keeping out the gays and lowering the military's recruitment standards has nothing to do with the increase in violent sexual assault.

  32. Joshua Norton

    the delicate flowers that make up half our population,

    Are we supposed to imagine June Cleaver in a fox hole?

    Send over all the "Real Housewives" casts. Those bitchez be crazeee, yo!

  33. CapnFatback

    Trotta's right. Before the U.S. military got there, Sadaam Hussein's rape rooms were just called "rooms."

  34. IceCreamEmpress

    The answer is clear. Have the military get rid of all its straight dudes! PROBLEM SOLVED.

    h/t Golda Meir

  35. joobajooba

    Trotta's credential as "Former New York bureau chief of the Washington Times" is not exactly on the same journalistic level as "Former Washington bureau chief of the New York Times"

  36. ElPinche

    Liz should prove her point. She should flak up and go to the frontline in Afghannystan and wait to get raped. Fortunately for Liz, I bet even the terrorists would say no to that old wombat. BTW, its funny how straight faced these morons on FN are when presenting these fucked up inane stories.

  37. Ducksworthy

    Women in combat roles should all be like Liz, hopelessly hoping someone, anyone, will rape them. Only they're not so she's mad at them. The end.

  38. Chet Kincaid

    "The forces of the New Caliphate have broken through our lines, Sir!! The male soldiers who weren't blubbering at the sight of helpless women had left their posts to rape them!"


    I think they have actually discovered there is a difference between men and women.

    Indeed, men are masculine, and women are más culonas.

  40. BarackMyWorld

    I like how they stuck "commentary" up in the corner, as if that's not the entirety of their programming.

  41. BarackMyWorld

    I almost feel bad for her designated straight-man Eric Shawn, for having to come on at the end there and try to be reasonable with her…almost.

  42. Redhead

    I've started a new game: Guess whether the story is from The Onion or from Not The Onion.

    I found my next entry. No one's winning, though.

  43. kissawookiee

    You go to war with the army you have, not the army you wish you had, which, apparently, only involves not getting raped if you're some pussy woman or homo or something.

  44. Steverino247

    Why is this whore not wearing a burqa? Will not some member of the Trotta family kill her and restore the family honor?

    It's the same thinking, folks.

  45. MadBrahms

    Good lord, first Breitbart has his CPAC tantrum about Occupiers raping America, and now this. At least Trotta isn't being flippant, even if it's the same horrible hyperbole.

    Rape is the new Hitler, in politics, hooray.

  46. ItsMrTheOwl2You

    Oh, all you Extreme Feminists and your silly belief that you have a right to your own bodies and to not be sexually violated! Silly little feminists, your vaginas exist only for the pleasure of menfolk!

  47. wolvenwood13

    Ms. Trotta's comments aren't only offensive to women; she is basically saying that men can't control themselves around women. She makes men out to be barbaric monsters who aren't responsible for their actions when they're around women simply because they just can't control themselves. The men should be up in arms as well.

  48. 40 or 50 % McShineys

    Liz Trotta is wrecking everything for the soldiers. If women begin to expect to get raped, it totally ruins the surprise. I mean, who wants to rape someone who is just pretending to be terrified? I know I sure don't.

  49. ttommyunger

    Liz Trotta: never seen a high hard one in the flesh. Sure would like to, but it just ain't gonna happen, Liz, fuggettaboutit!

  50. IndianaKevin

    Close proximity is pretty much a defining characteristic of civilization, so let the sexual-assault free-for-all begin!

  51. Catabite

    I work in close contact with plenty of people, some of them women, and somehow I manage not to rape them. Hell, I even lived with a few actual human women, and they somehow remained miraculously unmolested. Maybe I'm just defective.

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