Most people, when they imagine combat troops fighting in a war, picture gunfire and helicopters and blood and death. Rick Santorum, on the other hand, pictures sort of a dusty night club lit by the odd intermittent explosion where you know what happens when you leave the boys and girls alone in there too long together. Not HETEROSEXUAL INTERCOURSE, oh ha ha no, the Pope forbid, he means unbridled tenderness, the “natural” result whenever humans of differing genitalia commingle. Therefore he officially frowns upon the Pentagon’s new plan to open up thousands of combat-related positions to women, because this will force male soldiers who work around them to become highly “protective” and feel “emotions” like a club of nursing panda bears.
Ugh. TRY DECAF ONE OF THESE DAYS, RICK SANTORUM:
“When you have men and women together in combat, I think men have the emotions when you see a woman in harm’s way. I think that’s something that’s natural, that’s very much in our culture to be protective,” he said.
When host Ann Curry suggested that his remarks on Thursday could be perceived as commentary on “women being emotional,” Santorum said, “Oh no, that’s not the issue.”
“I’ve talked about this issue a lot, and I’ve never raised that as a concern,” he said. “The issue is … how men would react to seeing women in harm’s way or potentially being injured or in a vulnerable position and not be concerned about accomplishing the mission.”
Eh, Rick Santorum doesn’t react with much concern when there’s a woman suffering through a life-threatening condition during pregnancy, so… he’s not a man. Or a human. TRUE STORY. [Politico]
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" I think men have the emotions when you see a woman in harm’s way."
Obviously, these guys have never seen how hard a man's dick can get when he watches chicks in roller derby.
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I had the kookiest dream about you. We went to Sizzler and ate copious amounts of garlic bread.
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I've sent you a Get Well Upfist!
Kisses, Widestance.
Yea, and then he gets a skate to the nuts….
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I have enough drugs for us all to zone out for the weekend.
Have…I ever told you I love you?
Loved you first, Dashboard!
Oh, I'd never dream of intruding on your deserved stash. Happy to see no one took out out your snark.
Barb:
I never mind somebody beating me to being first as long as it's you.
Welcome back! Wonkette just wasn't the same place without you.
You didn't miss much – the GNoPee is still all fucked up…
Thanks Tundra.
Yeah Barb is back! This is as cool as getting to watch the hot babe in high school who went onto do something, something… awe damn it, I lost my train of thought.
We missed your wit.
Fartknocker, I thought about you in the hospital and wondered what you were doing.
There you are, I heard the news. Very glad you're on the mend. Welcome home.
Mojo, Thanks so much. It is great to be home.
I was annoyed that I got a roommate at 4:00 A.M. in the hospital. She was a great gal and she and I were rowdy as hell together. I left her 7 Up and Hershey bars for Valentine's Day.
Yay, it's good to hear you're home and feeling better! Sorry I was away the internet all day yesterday and this is the first I've seen of this; it's good to hear from you again.
You know that I missed you the mostest!
Welcome back, Barb.
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Barb's back and without even pausing for a breath knocks one out of the fucking park!
Welcome back, lady.
Thanks, Dashboard! I missed you.
Welcome back. Feel better. Are you gonna have Mookie bronzed?
I dunno, what is bronze worth on the metals market. A normal uterus weighs 2 oz. After pathology removed all of the tumors the shell of Mookie was 2 lbs 3 oz.
I understand that i have a lot of space now. I may get shag carpeting, who knows?
Your avatar seems to have come through surgery without a scratch. What good news! Oh … I guess it's nice you're OK too.
Pixels! Not a scratch on me either. They used small kittens to lick the tumors out. It was completely pain free and I got to keep the medical kittens!
If I understand the approximate location of the tumors and, therefore, where the kitten licking took place … well, it sounds like the procedure was even better than painless. I'm glad you got to keep the medical kittens. Who says Obamacare doesn't have some good things in it?!
Or watched re-runs of GLOW (Glorious Ladies of Wrestling). Or the Mudwrestling scene in "Stripes". Or the first "Police Academy" with the stacked blond doing hand to hand drills. Or any catfight. Anywhere.
Glad you're back barb. I've missed that pussy … cat.
Thanks BigDumbRedDog! I hope our secret that dogs and cats do sleep together never gets leaked to the others, wink.
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Thanks Demme, it's always makes my heart smile to see you.
I would upfist you, Barb, but I see you have exactly +69 on this comment, and I thought you might want to stay in that position a while longer.
I was happier at 68, you do me and I owe you one….
Thanks!
Hate to barge in here, but Fire Dept. regulations limit the number of direct replies. Just wanted to welcome you back.
Dorothy Parker says "Hi", and says "Keep channeling!"
The Fire Dept. has to rethink the number of occupants allowed now that I have a roomier and more spacious zorch.
hugs Barb!
Rick doesn't like things that make men feel emotions. Emotions are gay.
Nothing sez Macho Motherfucker like a stoic man in a sweater vest.
Well, his are.
You know this was bound to happen. once DADT was repealed.
So soon we will have pics of women peeing on the enemy?
The enemy has to pay extra for that.
It would help pay for the war.
We will be greeted as miturators.
No just walking them around in a leash and collar.
Stacking them up in a butt pyramid and pointing at them with a Marlboro hanging off their lip. Soldiers Of Fortune porn!
Wasn't this Boss BlunderRush's line a few years ago? Women couldn't be in combat because they would be infected living in a trench (like we're still in The Great War) and they get a period once a month.
We have Rep. Louie Gommer getting his caribou knowledge from George Bush and Ole Crazy Eyes.
Ricky Santorum gets his biological information from a bloated radio gasbag instead of his own wife?
If if weren't for the kids produced, I'd doubt he'd ever exchanged any "biological information" with his wife.
Is dumb shite Creamy froth boy trying to imply that women can't be mean? He needs to realize that all women are not mousy, in denial about their husband's REAL sexual preference, chumps scarfing Xanax and Prozac like his wife.
mrpuma2u:
The problem isn't getting women to start fighting. Look at the Russian soldiers in WW II, or the Israeli military after that.
The tricky part is getting them to stop.
“The issue is … how men would react to seeing women in harm’s way or potentially being injured or in a vulnerable position and not be concerned about accomplishing the mission.”
Yeah, because you never see chicks in action films…men hate that.
Moran.
Then why do all the men who are seated stare at the floor on the subway or train when they see a pregnant woman holding onto a bar while standing on her swollen feet?
Because as we've witnessed lately, all the Marines serving in Afghanistan are perfect gentlemen.
Here's a test, Creamcup. If I fling a live grenade in your wife's direction, will you promise to throw yourself on it? Is all I'm asking.
I love how you call him Creamcup.
Is there special meaning here?
I get the feeling that Ricko doesn't want wimmen in combat 'cause they don't share his hard-heartedness. I get the feeling that if you fling a live grenade at Ricko's wife, oh well, it's God's will, sorry, honey, nice to know ya long enough to sue for pain and suffering that time.
Uh, he didn't have a problem with her risking her life for their last daughter. He didn't even perform any life saving duties when his daughter quit breathing in his arms, so. . .no, I don't see himself sacrificing himself for womens.
I think having a fucked up shitsack named Santorum as the commander in chief is likely to have significantly worse consequences for military morale.
The Sweater-vest-in-chief shouldn't have any impact on military morale or encourage our enemies to see us as weak.
So finally equal pay for women?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH. You're funny.
Maybe only women should fight then, since men's emotions are always clouding their judgement.
Oh snap!
“The issue is … how men would react to seeing women in harm’s way or potentially being injured or in a vulnerable position and not be concerned about accomplishing the mission.”
Well, if it is the only way we can get men to stop having their stupid wars, then by all means, let's have an all-female army. Or better yet for Santorum, an all-fetus army.
He who lives in glass jars, shouldn't throw stones.
But he'll never out-asshole Newt. Pontificate, moron:
If combat means living in a ditch, females have biological problems staying in a ditch for thirty days because they get infections and they don't have upper body strength. I mean, some do, but they're relatively rare. On the other hand, men are basically little piglets, you drop them in the ditch, they roll around in it, doesn't matter, you know. These things are very real.
Well, Newt is basically a little piglet… that part is true.
These things are very real.
But what he's saying about Callista's hooters is obvious bullshit.
These assholes are aware that trench warfare ended almost one hundred years ago, aren't they?
No. No, I don't think they are. Aware. Of anything.
That's incredible that Newt's handlers would have ever let him use any remotely porcine word at all
Infections? Huh?
Is this 1916?
Rick, is it okay if the women soldier is a lesbian?
Depends. She drive a Subaru?
Wear comfortable combat boots?
Good with dogs?
Or if the male has the geyh?
Ingenius, problem solved! Operation Girlfriend!
Unfortunately, if they're even remotely attractive, that would be too distracting for the menfolk. They don't even have to be even remotely attractive.
He doesn't realize that chivalry is dead…
And can you imagine how the "piss on the Afghans" photo op would been ruined if someone had to squat down to piss on them…
It would have ended up on YouPorn instead of YouTube.
How the fuck would he know what a "woman in harms way" looks like? Last I checked he has never donned the uniform.
Frothy's just trying to keep the little wimen folks outta harm's way… and in the kitchen, barefoot, pregnant and baking apple pies.
Which branch of the military did Creamcup serve in again?
The "Queen's" Guard?
I know a couple of military women who could kick Creamcup's ass six ways to Sunday.
Rear echelon?
all of them?
Dear Rick,
The expression "Band of Brothers" comes from Shakespeare's Henry V, so soldiers in combat have been fighting to protect each other at least that long. Unit cohesion, that esoteric quality that allows some units to overcome incredible odds and make it out alive, comes from a strong sense of protecting the soldier next to you while they cover you.
You may have even heard of the Spartans for whom cohesion and protecting a brother was paramount to preserving Western Civilization (as the Greeks tell the story anyway) from the Persians.
Many of the problems of returning veterans rise from a sense that the survivors somehow failed to keep comrades alive through their combat experience. They sometimes even feel suicidal and desire to re-join their dead friends.
In short, shut the fuck up, asshole, because you don't know shit about combat. You are hereby declared unqualified to be Commander in Chief.
Sir, I salute you with a Spartan fist!
Man, I'm glad you said that.
Way to Go.
Thank you for your service to our nation and for such a well thought out message. It would look really good on Cream Cups Facebook page.
I regret that I have put one thumbs up to give that post.
I trained for combat and very nearly ended up in it on several occasions. My younger son trained for combat, lead men in combat and was severely wounded doing so. I've been able to help a few combat veterans get through their post-war experience. While I'm no expert, I know what combat leadership looks like and what a bullshitter about combat looks like (punched a few out in my day, in fact). Santorum is a moral coward who snipes from the sidelines at people who are trying to protect us from our foreign policy mistakes. Women cannot be protected from combat in asymetric warfare like we've had in Iraq and Afghanistan. And if you don't think women can kick ass when given the chance, then don't look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leigh_Ann_Hester or here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Lin_Brown
HAHAHHAAH. the crispen day speech is kinda meant for republicans:
Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not die in that man's company
…
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
I figured someone would get around to this point … didn't expect Shakesepare, but of course it's something he'd have dealt with.
Short version, dumbed down for Santorum: Soldiers in combat always protect one another, you asshole.
"When you have men and women together in combat, I think men have the emotions when you see a woman in harm’s way."
Rick, honey, I'm glad you're retaining lessons from your extensive combat experience, but remember — when the Donner Party was trapped in the mountains in California, it was the women who were doing the killin-n-eatin'. Sleep well on that news, chickenshit.
well, the men didn't know how to cook – cook or be cooked is my motto!
Not for nothing, but the evidence is that they ate the *already* dead. And they didn't even do that until they had scraped every animal bone clean.
Oh, Rick Santorum. Is there anything you can't completely misunderstand?
First of all, if Mr. Santorum understood thing one about modern combat, it would be that bringing back as many live and uninjured personnel as possible is hard-coded into nearly every mission. Yes, there are suicide missions, but these are usually undertaken under the gravest circumstances, when there is literally no other alternative available, and then generally only by members of special forces units who are trained specifically to defy insane odds and return alive anyway. So military service members are ALWAYS concerned about their squadmates being injured or vulnerable BECAUSE they're part of the mission, regardless of gender.
I'd suggest openly to Mr. Santorum that he should end his candidacy, but he's the best chance the Democrats have of getting President Obama reelected.
If this guy doesn't think women have the emotional strength to fight, he should try to harm my son with The Mrs around sometime, as a neighborhood teenager tried once (note the "once").
Trust me — he'd think differently once he was in a bloody lump on the floor.
(FTR, I wasn't home, otherwise that teenager would've been kicked a few times after he was down.)
Womenz with their softness. Women can't go into combat 'cause it will muss their make up and hair.
If Rick thinks men are too emotional, the obvious solution is an all-women army.
yeah that's work so well for Gadhafi
Also, giraffes, trenches and monthly infections. Too.
Even when I play something like Valkyria Chronicles- a game that features WWII-style combat in cutesy anime watercolor style- my primary concern is about supersonic swarms of metal balls, with thoughts like "HOLY FUCK I'M GONNA DIE!" This is in spite of half the squad being made of girly girls with guns.
I can only imagine the real thing is more intense and less cute.
Other then Ron Paul none of the other candidates have been in the military. Some of the prominent Republicans who have been are John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Rick Perry.
I think women can only improve the levels of intelligence, creativity, and hard work in the service if they enlist.
Tell you what, shitbird, you find the freeper thread discussing the shooting of Representative Gabrielle Giffords, and you tell me if the emotions expressed in the comments are the kind you're referring to.
Yes, indeed. I remember a woman named Lynddie England. A tender bud, she was.
Male soldiers, on the other hand, have absolutely no problem letting another male soldier die and will never try to help each other out. Logic!
Is this a bad thing if men feel extra war-like because a lady is in harm's way as opposed to just some guy? Or does this mean the men can't accomplish war because they're always out buying the women soldiers tampons and contraceptions and chick flicks?
Also, "When you have men and women together in combat, I think men have the emotions when you see a woman in harm’s way." Is English a second language for Frothy?
"Men have the emotions[ . . .]" This is the whole problem. Emotions are girly-stuff.
Emotions are so ghey.
Like fucking clockwork.
He's time-warped in from the Mesozoic, I think. Never mind. Let's do the time-warp, again! It's just a jump to the left …
Dinosaurs were smarter than Frothy.
Stop that! I don't want to see Santorum doing any pelvic thrusts.
I think you mean "I don't want to see Santorum trying to do any pelvic thrusts" … because I'm not sure he's capable of performing any significant bodily movements requiring rhythm.
Frothy is right: our troops doesn't need no stupid feelings.
All they have to do is shoot any browns/Muslins/Messicans in sight, urinating their corpses and then poses with Nazi banner.
"Combat could be tough for the ladies", said the man wearing a sweater vest.
FWIW. This woman is running for the GOP nom for Gabby Giffords seat.
Famously refused to wear a burqa in Saudi Arabia.
http://mcsallyforcongress.com/
No way in hell is she winning the Republican primary.
I dunno. I ain't makin any predictions. Are you here in teh Baja?
So far they got a State Leg, A sportscaster, another vet. from 'interrogation' services, and the guy who ran against Gabby that had the fundraiser with guns-a shootin.
The Rutherford Institute is kinda…..interesting.
Is it just me or could she pass for John McCain's sister? And an Arizonan, no less. Build The Dang Fence!!!
Besides being a douche in general, Rick is a dumb ass. It isn't like the US has the only armed forces ever. There are other countries. With armies and navies. And some of those countries allow women to fight along side their male counterparts.
Such as,uh…the Israeli Army, perhaps. Really has damaged their force readiness, hasn't it?
They also let openly gay people serve too. Imagine that.
Don't let Ricky hear that or else it will be a Scanners- like mess.
Hey – Soldiers! Hear that? Rick Santorum thinks you're soft! All gooey and mushy. Wouldn't have what it takes to complete the mission. Lack focus and commitment. More concerned about attending to women than to your duty. Do you have an opinion to share?
I've been waiting for ttommy to chime in on this but now hope that his absence here means he's on his way to DC to "share his opinions" with lil' Ricky personally.
Like the guy in the old Dunkin Donuts commercials, he must look at the alarm clock every morning and say, "time to make the stupid!!"
I assume he has these feelings based on his own long record of military service – or at least watching some war movies.
He didn't serve in the military or nor does he have any military training – but – he did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Well, I'm pretty sure they serve MRE's for breakfast.
He's got a point. I mean, God forbid that any of our troops concern themselves over the safety of any of our other troops. You follow that slippery slope down to the bottom, and, suddenly, nobody wants to go to war.
Also, their menstruation attracts bears.*
* AnnieGetYerFun will be sensing deja vu now.
Landsharks, also too.
This man keeps a Fetus Jar around the house for his kids to play with, yet is afraid of Cooties in Foxholes.
Saontorum: loves Reagan, hates Thatcher.
I know that all-male combat units are super-duper good at ignoring emotions. That why no one is ever upset when their buddies are blown to pieces* right in front of them. Having women on the front lines would change all that.
*savethispatient already heard me say this on Facebook.
I have a new point to add to this conversation: I think Santorum is expecting the women to go into combat in cute blue gingham dresses only armed with apple pies.
And bloomers – the old fashioned underwear that Santorum no doubt forces all his womenfolk to wear.
Rick's idea of Unit Cohesion is when the dildo gets stuck to the frothy substance in his ass.
"Roger, Bravo-Seven! Save the chick! Whatever you do, save the chick!"
Naw. Not even in Starship Troopers.
Before Rick goes to Arizona he may want to learn about this American before he offers his thoughts on women serving combat roles and performing these missions in the military:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lori_Piestewa
"…I think men have the emotions when you see a woman in harm’s way."
When Rick Santorum was in the army, the rule was to ignore your squad-mates when they fell into harms way. "Fuck 'em" is what the Field Manual said. But now with the wimmins, the man-soldiers will have to risk their lives to help their comrades. It's time to bring back cowardice. And Rick Santorum is just the man to do that.
The only emotion Women in combat may give the men is a hard on, causing unwanted blue balls in the middle of combat. God forbid the man might have to stop and beat one out for the gipper.
Not even being run over by the clue bus will help Ricky.
Yeah–I'll tell that to my little 105 lb. Iraq vet, female cousin, the crack
sharp shooter. She'll get all . . . . ummmm, tender about it.
Remember that movie about Rick's Army service? There was shrimp and sideways rain and cumming in pants and "Shit Happens" t-shirts, and his wife got AIDS? That was a pretty good flick.
most female troops would wipe the floor with pussies like that…
Rick Santorum as the nominee will no doubt be a laugh a minute proposition.
Men fight for stuff or dominance. Women fight to kill. Take that to the fucking bank, limp wrist.
FWIW, Santorum's a despicable troll (who fetes white supremacists, incidentally, since that's now a totally cool thing to do as a Republican candidate for President), BUT…
If recollection serves, he is partly correct here. When the IDF studied the implementation of mixed units, the ONE SINGULAR issue they found was that when a female combatant was wounded or in danger, it lead her male comrades tended to respond much more aggressively, which can be problematic in some situations.
But, Spoiler Alert here: The IDF still gender-integrated their units anyway. Admittedly, it might have been for reasons less high-minded and more pragmatic than gender equality per se, but we're talking about Israel, for all the cultural cruft surrounding the Orthodox communities and gender segregation, so.
Oh yeah, the IDF also allows gays and lesbians to serve openly, and prohibits discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, so that's at least two reasons Santorum hates Israel, right there.
Yeah, because soldiers never feel protective and emotional about their male buddies going in harm's way. That would be queer or somethin'.
This man thinks he's going to get on the good side of the soldiers of this country with words like this??? He thinks he could ever stand in front of any women soldiers on camera claiming to be the "leader of the free world" and ever be taken seriously by them? In less than a month he's claimed women (espeically rape victims) to be nothing but vessels for fetuses, expected the country( including male soldiers) to sympathize with him over his daugher with Trisomy 18, and then claim those same men to be too emotional to fight in combat around a vagina, I wonder how many of "President Frothy's" drone missles will do mid-air pregnancy tests on it's targets before obliterating yet another oil-rich country's people, because clearly he thinks the Americans can't make decisions under any circumstances.
I have never been in combat outside a bar or alley or parking lot, so even though I almost certainly know more about it than Creamcup Shitstain, I'm still going to keep my fucking mouth shut.
The Soviets had women in combat in World War II. Which explains why the Nazis defeated them and Stalin ended up killing himself in a bunker under Moscow.
"A little bit of Richie Cunningham is what our country needs right now."
I don't know Ricky. I thought it was kinda creepy when The Fonz would want to see you in the men's bathroom, which he called his "office"…
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