The Massachusetts Senate race between Democrat and Harvard professor Elizabeth Warren and Republican Senator Scott Brown kind of did the opposite of heat up Monday, with both the candidate and incumbent saying very lovely, faux-humble things about how they hope to compete on the basis of their own ideas (money) rather than the ideas (money) of super PACs. Just when super PACs were starting to get fun! Warren says she actually wants to get rid of them altogether and “set an example for the rest of the country.” What a drag.
The exchange between the two began late last week, when Warren called Brown, and then got old-fashioned and wrote him a letter because he didn’t pick up the phone, calling for an “enforceable agreement” limiting third-party influence in their race:
We have the opportunity to set an example for the rest of the country. Let’s do it. If you are serious about stopping the political games and getting to the hard work of keeping out third party ads and independent groups, I’m ready…Too often, candidates call for an end to third party influence but their words are just that, and their calls are just more empty promises and politics as usual.
Professor Warren was in Boston for a Martin Luther King Jr. Day celebration, where she said prior to the event: “What I’d like to do is I’d like to be able to run my campaign. I’d like for Sen. Brown to run his campaign and we both be responsible for what is said. I think that is the right way to be able to run the campaign.”
Smug Scott has felt this way forever, he’s now pretending, saying Monday in Mattapan, MA that he’s “glad Professor Warren seems to be coming around on this issue…I think by sending a joint message to stay out, I’m hopeful they’ll accept that message,” they being the unofficial fan clubs.
But if an organization with millions of dollars to spend likes you, what’s a candidate to do? If you can’t communicate with a PAC about its message, then you can’t tell it to shut the hell up either.
Warren said Monday she hoped the campaigns could agree on some sort of “pact,” and establish that there would be “consequences” for anyone who broke it. So, they’re going to make a pact … to show disdain … for pro-themselves organizations that they’re not able to communicate with? Wow, change really is coming. [Politico]
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Those Taxachusetts elites have no respect for the civil rights of corporations!
Not true! They want them to have the right to remain silent.
If corporations are people you can at least communicate with them. What sort of animal is a Super PAC if you can't talk to it?
I am getting this image of three monkeys………………
See no, speak no…
Forgot the third one. Oops.
See no evil, hear no truth, and speak no truth?
Flinging shit at each other?
"What sort of animal is a Super PAC if you can't talk to it?"
The hyena comes to mind. (I'm trying not to slander the honey badger.)
I'm trying not to slander the honey badger.
Oh go ahead. Because – you know …
It's a good thing politicians are open, honest and (oops! I forget the third point!) or this sort of thing would never work.
Don't forget "accountable"!
Warren's not going to get the big bribes with that attitude!
No Republican would ever actually agree to an Anti-SuperPAC pact.
Oh, they would agree to it. They just would not follow through.
Oh they'd agree to it, especially if the penalties are severe. Then they'd create a Super PAC ad in favor of Warren, just to make her pay the penalty.
As
the world turns?
As Scottie Dog tries to stealthily slime Liz Warren with the elitist-sounding dog-whistle label of "Professor Warren," I say that she should refer to him as "Centerfold Brown."
It pisses me off to no end that if a woman had done that she'd have no chance in hell to be elected to anything, but it just makes scotty a stud.
This is one of many reasons I want EB to win…
sume makes an ass of u and me
if?
though?
Hey!
shole?
paragus!
adverb
1.
to the same degree, amount, or extent; similarly; equally: "I don't think it's as fucked up and shit steaming today as it was yesterday."
perger's?
preggers?
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inine. The pricks with the money will do whatever they want with it … and anonymous pricks with money are ten times worse.
Anonymity does lead to disrespectful behavior. Just look at the out-of-line comments posted on any random internet blog.
*walks away whistling*
Andy, is that you?
s wipe
if?
Does no one care for the golden voiced baritones with foreboding overtones that will not have jobs?
Danzig?
Nick Cave?
Elizabeth Warren conveyed the news to her Campaign Manager, who later made a phone call to a Lawyer Friend. This Lawyer Friend sent a text to an Associate of means who supports liberal causes. This Associate made a tweet with an innocuous-but-coded message that was read at a nearby recording studio. Moments later, James Earl Jones stormed out fuming, "this is bullshit!!"
Don't forget the mezzo-soprano Concerned Middle Aged Housewife Voiceover artists. How many of those jobs are outside the Political Commercial field, huh?
That's funny C_R_E, when I typed the comment I actually did think of those now unemployed, overly concerned mezzo-soprano housewives. :. (
Well, don't fret. You're with friends here. Deeply Disturbed Friends, but friends nonetheless.
Is June Foray too old to do politcal voiceovers? I could go for some of those.
Wow! Great reference, thanks. Her Bio says that she's still active, so she'd not too old. She probably has too much self respect and money to stoop to the kinds of vile swill broadcast today, though. So it looks like the door's wide open for you!
I had no idea that Rocky, Natasha, and Nell were all the same person.
THIS is what I call an education!
Political ads featuring Rocky and Natasha would be a good thing, IMO.
I feel bad for Elizabeth Warren. She is like someone who has OCD about being clean, but has found her calling to be a career which requires diving into an overflowing pool of fetid rat feces.
There was a time when being a senator or even a representative was an office that commanded respect and came with dignity, mostly since the nasty stuff was quietly cloaked behind the scenes. Now both have all the dignity of being a hog waste technician at a corporate farmstead tending to lakes of liquid pig squat. A tiny part of me feels some sadness at this, but mostly I believe until they clean up their act or Hell freezes over, it is richly deserved for their conduct.
There was a time when being a senator or even a representative was an office that commanded respect and came with dignity
I have to agree. There was also probably a time when senators and representatives were respectable and comported themselves with dignity. But NOW, playgirl centerfolds, diaper poopers, white bigots of every color, car thieves.
They do deserve the treatment they get. And more so, I suppose we deserve them because we are too lazy and/or stupid to prevent such lunatics from being elected.
Elizabeth Warren wants to have my baby. I just know she does.
Oh, c'mON. You know YOU want to have HER baby. You KNOW you do.
Maybe a threesome with her and one of Scott Broswn's daughters.
If there's no superPAC, who will pay for Scott Brown's truck? I mean, those things use up a lot of gas and someone has to pay!
You mean the truck he bought used, so he could blab about it having 200,000 miles on it?
If he needs a new one for this election, I've got a '96 GMC with 200K+ miles on it that I'd let go pretty cheaply. Considering its value as a political prop, I'm thinking a dollar per mile.
All he'd need would be a down syndrome baby, and he's off to the races!
I can't imagine they cost much more than a truck, either.
Do you really want a Senator who is so stupid they would turn down free money?
Not if it were actually *free,* e.g., publicly financed, capped campaign funding.
There's a Super PACman joke in there somewhere just dying to get out.
I thought the joke was already out, and those of us without a Super PAC were the punchline.
Waka waka waka!
How many Super PACmen does it take to change a light bulb?
As many as it takes to buy a legislature, outlaw union labor in the jurisdiction requiring replacement of said light bulb, repeal child-labor laws and the minimum wage, then troll the kindergartens for the lowest bidder.
But without Super PAC money in the campaign how will I know if Scott Brown is a serial killer or not? I guess I'll just assume that he is.
Well, based on the centerfold, he was definitely a serial lady killer.
Then again, you know who else was?
Um … Ted Bundy?
John Wayne Gacy?
Oh wait, didn't he kill boys?
Well, and men. You know. Cut-off point. So to speak.
Whats is this? DINO VS RINO?
Sad that the one that actually acts like a real Democrat should is the DINO.
Elizabeth Warren gave two corporations a D- in a first-year law class last semester, so she's trying to avoid fallout.
You know you else thought they could win without a SuperPAC?
The ghosts in Pacman?
The four dissenting opinions in the Citizen's United Case?
HITLER!!!
Always the answer. What was the question?
~
Super PACs back then were gangs of thugs armed with batons. We're not there yet, but it's coming!
The Notorious B.I.G.?
Suge Knight?
The Dallas Cowboys?
Tim Tebow? He thought having Jesus on his team was enough.
All he needed Jesus and about six more touchdowns.
Go you satanic Pats!!!
"If you can’t communicate with a PAC about its message, then you can’t tell it to shut the hell up either."
This same principle holds true with my wife.
You're pretty gutsy. Last time I told MY wife to shut up was, let's see, oh, NEVAH?
Because I know I'd be sleeping in the garden for a week, sans blankets and bedding, and probly in the middle of winter, if I pulled that shit with her.
If corporations are people, can corporations run for elected office. Oh, wait……….
They have a shit load of offices-
Governors of Wisc, Mich., Ohio, etc…
Representatives for Ill., Virginia, Minn., etc…
Etc… etc… etc…
What? Let the People speak!!
Let the Rich People speak!!
Fixed.
Actually, I was referring to corporations, my friend! :)
I really hope that Elizabeth Warren doesn't end up like a sweet farmer's daughter moving to Hollywood to be a star in those fancy movies. She climbs out of the bus all nice and wholesome and by the end she is face down, ass up on some casting couch somewhere.
Ahem, I don't think that was a "fancy" movie you saw.
Oh it was "fancy" all right. I had to give them my credit card number and everything.
I think it's the soundtrack we pay for.
Sounds like a completely normal film to take a respectable woman to on a date… if you're Travis Bickle or something.
Taking me to a place like this is about as exciting as saying to me "Let's fuck."
*I* always found that exciting …
She stepped off the bus out into the city streets
Just a small town girl with her whole life packed
In the suitcase by her feet
But somehow the lights didn't
shine as bright as they did
On her mama's TV screen…
And we, the porn watchers of America, thank her for her service.
Missy got off the bus one day,
In a crowded depot in downtown L.A…
There is a problem with that scenario?
From what I've seen of Elizabeth Warren the Hollywood Movie she'd show up in would be more like a Jet Li feature, complete with Nut Shots to some Big Bad Corporate "People"
And it would start with some asshat pointedly calling her "professor" as if it were an insult, not a title.
Spot On.
When exactly did a sizable fraction of people in this country decide that no, let's not listen to the educated people, the college dropouts and legacy hires really have the right idea?
All this reminds me of :
A little learning is a dangerous thing.
Drink deep; taste not the Pierian spring.
There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain
and drinking deeply sobers us again.
"When exactly did a sizable fraction of people in this country decide that no, let's not listen to the educated people, the college dropouts and legacy hires really have the right idea?"
When Karl Rove met George W. Bush?
She'd play the Michelle Yeoh role. KaPOW, KaSOCK, KaWHAMMETTY!
Hermie "Zanuck" Cain LIBEL!!!!11!
This is stupid. If somebody's got your back, let them fucking lay down covering fire! I thought she wanted to win. And I'm SURE promises to lay off from the other side are 100% genuine. (Rolling eyes so violently I'm bout ta pass out)
Silly Elizabeth won't know what hit her.
I love Professor Warren and all, but I'm not buying that she is quite so naive. Or that her political campaign people are. I expect that she is well aware that various banks and financial establishments are gearing up to spend a sum equal to the total profits of the Afghan opium trade [which is a lot of money, and more ethically earned too] on negative ads filtered through PACs. She wants Brown on the record now, so that when the tsunami of misinformation and slime starts washing over Massachusetts, she can possibly make some hay over this. If it isn't some kind of jockeying move for future advantage, it doesn't make sense.
What's more effective, pointing out Brown's treachery on the Rachel Maddow Show, or having some friends with deep pockets firing back with paid media?
Again, I'm just acting on the assumption that Warren didn't fall off the cornhusking truck yesterday, and that she has at least some campaign organisation people who have a clue, I expect that any loot-laden SuperPAC's that are prepared to help Warren will have their bombers idling on the runway waiting for the signal. And arms-length communications have been sent back and forth. When the Brown superPACs saturate the airwaves, (or perhaps even before) the Warren superPAC's can open fire.
If I'm right, then of course I don't have the smallest clue what would motivate such a finesse move, but here's a completely pulled out of my ass "maybe it's this" type guess. It's not hard to imagine that the people looking for negative material on Brown have just had an easier time than with Warren, since she seems to have lived a simple and financially modest life. Maybe they have a lot of stuff that could hurt Brown, and airing it could undercut the image of probity that Warren and her campaign people want to project. So this is a form of innoculation: this way when the negative ads come out, Warren can still put herself above the fray. "Tut, tut Scott, I wanted to do this simply. But I'm not about to take any steps you won't take."
Like I say – just a 100% fantasy conjecture. But I think something like that must be part of the plan. It's jockeying for the rhetorical high ground. Won't change anything that actually happens.
You are wise and your points make sense. However, I'd like to point out that, as we're talking here about Massachusetts, "cornhusking truck" is perhaps not the most apt metaphor. I don't really know what agricultural metaphor makes sense, though. Perhaps the cranberry truck?
Play chess much?
Nobody from the opposition ever watches MSNBC.
I dunno … played correctly, it could work. Set up the voters properly, and any pro-Brown slime ads will piss people off. If Brown fails to publicly tell the PAC to stuff it, they'll be even more pissed. And given how rabid and stupid right wingers are, there's a good chance they'd blow up Brown's campaign. He'd be hoist by his own retards.
Is the r-word not an automatic delete anymore? Good thing if true, because that "hoist by his own retards" is the kind of phrase that the snarking world lives for.
You mean we can type in "riley" now?
The noun retard is accepted, but the adjective re†arded is still verboten. Unless you're UserOfOwls, who has a mysterious dispensation of some sort.
She's seven points up in the bluest of blue states and is a kick ass candidate with national recognition. So much so that Karl Rove made her poll numbers shoot up ny trying to frame her as an occupier. I'm pretty sure she's just putting this out there so that the independents know who is the insider and who isn't. This is a shrewd move if you ask me.
OK, we'll see. I hope hubris isn't whispering in her ear that she is invincible.
And now Pat Benetar is playing in my head…
I doubt it. I agree with Le prof. Lizzy is kind, but it's not like she just fell off the turnip truck.
If Brown reneges then Colbert can direct some funds from The Pac That Daren't Bear His Name to support EW.
Here we are, a bunch of smart, snarky, cynical, overall fairly intellectual people. Now, why do you suppose we think that Elizabeth Warren, who's at least as smart if not smarter, probably snarky, at the age to be cynical, and undoubtedly intellectual — why do we think she is any less likely to be able to defend herself than the rest of us would be under similar circs? I ask because we treat Barry the same way. Do we forget that these people are trained lawyers? And that part of a lawyer's training is to envision that parade of imaginary horribles that will constitute the other side's plan of action? And to counter each and every point that can possibly be raised. We've seen Barack do it — outflank his enemies and slowly cut them off till they can't move without chewing off their own leg. I'm with Chichikovovich on this one. I suspect she's laying the groundwork for a cutoff manoeuvre. She'll take him off at the knees when he's not looking. I hope.
Scott Brown already has a super pack.
I told myself, and I TOLD myself, don't click that linkie! Damn …
Me too, hon. Me too.
I wish you had not posted that picture….
You know who else made a pact?
That's right…
~
Kukla, Fran and Ollie?
I thought they comprised the Triple Enfant.
Faust?
What a weasel he was.
Voice of experience, Biely?
Me this morning, when ah pact the kids' lunches, only to realize too late that it's MLK Day?
Your kids fast on MLK Day?
Just like on Yom Kippur.
If they're not at school, they can pour their own jug of corn syrup, dammit!
What about the pig anuses, then?
What a good Dad, packing lunch for the sprog! My Dad used to do that too. Mom never could be bothered.
If I don't pack it, they just get pre-packaged crap. My wife is currently on a non-whole foods diet for the rugrats. If the meal can't be assembled in 30 seconds or less, it is left to me.
I don't know if they thank you for it. I seem to remember being a most unappreciative brat. Now that my Dad's gone, I think back to those days when he so lovingly packed our lunches and our school bags and drove us to school every morning, rain or shine, and I thank him, and I thank my lucky stars that I had such a wonderful Dad.
Harry Truman?
Stalin!
Neville Chamberlain, The Great Appeaser?
Scott Brown, to break any pacts with Warren?
The U.S. Gov't?
Robert Johnson?
Ralph Macchio?
Crossroads libel!
Eastern Europe?
Namco, creators of the classic video game "Pact-Man"?
Not to mention the gay porn knock-off "Packed Man".
Butch & Sundance?
The Green Bay Pacters?
The Pilgrims?
Scott Brown solemnly promises not to "coordinate" with any super PACs this cycle.
I'm sure Brownie had his fingers crossed.
Does he have any of those tasty Samoas?
I'm sure he does a heck of a job crossing his fingers, too, also.
One of the few jobs he has successfully completed.
Brown to Scott: Let's get rid of the PACs
Scott to Brown: PACs are people, my friend…
Darnit! And to think I just launched the What Can Brown Do For You Super PAC.
What a coincidence! I just formed the "Let's send Brown back where he belongs: with Santorum" SuperPAC.
I think the What Can Brown Do For You Super PAC is behind the surge of Santorum.
The What Can Brown Do For You Super PAC is currently selling SuperPAC-sized TrukNutz. The proceeds of which will make it rain Santorum all over the place.
Oh gross.
You grossed yourself out, nice work!
You need to git ahold of Li'l Ricky Santorum: I'll bet he'd want to be involved.
Wait, is Elizabeth "coming around" on the issue if she is the one who proposed it?
Serial liars lie. Serially.
I'm glad Professor Warren is coming around on this issue..
Oh, was Elizabeth F'ing Warren previously in favor of unlimited, unregulated cash being dumped into political campaigns? Has she finally come to Jesus, as it were? Scotty, get back in the truck and leave the adult world to the adults.
OT: "Rep. Tim Scott in SC: "The greatest minority under assault today are Christians. No doubt about it."
Man, the Christians who were said to have been thrown to the lions really were persecuted, and I bet they didn't whine about it one tenth as much as these guys do because they can't force entire public school assemblies to listen to their favorite prayers, and because some people find Tebowmania tiresome and say so.
So true. I see no signs saying "No Christians allowed/hired," I don't see Churches being burned down…the GOP have become like psychopaths in their constant and unashamed lying.
Black churches, but because they love Jesus, not because they are black.
They were too busy being et to whine so much. Hey! That gives me an idea!
Dammit, not enough lions.
He's right! Just this morning me and my Sharia Law Meet-up Group went out to find us some Christians and beat them all up for shits and giggles. It's how we celebrate MLK Jr. Day each year.
Really? And here I thought it was just a dream….
Seriously, don't say that too loud. All your Twitterz is being monitored, you know.
See? This is how American traditions start!
Why, here in Whitelandia, we refer to it as "Hate Whitey Day," you know.
At least he admits that Christians are a minority & not the majority.
Pffft. These pantloads only use the "minority" canard to rouse their rabble. http://religions.pewforum.org/reports
I particularly like the "nothing in particular – 12.1%."
Ah, sweet nothings. Into the void, dudes!
We believe in nothing, Lebowski. Nothing. And tomorrow we come back and we cut off your chonson.
See? Only 26.3%!
What? All those other "categories?" They're not real Christians!
So the plan for the anti-immigrant laws is to get rid of all those Christians from Mexico, and then we can move on to the others?
Oh they are under great assault, what with the law preventing them from forcing their religion on others and some non-Christians mocking them and their silly beliefs.
Oh when will we be free of this oppression that prevents us from oppressing others?!?!
Maybe he's talking about the middle east? Those Coptics have it pretty bad.
No doubt about it: Rep. Tim Scott is a lying asshole.
Haha, you're funny! You forgot that Elizabeth is a woman and is therefore incapable of forming her own thoughts and opinions on matters of importance. She didn't even know what a Super PAC was until Scott brought it to her attention.
Clearly this is just an attempt to seduce Scott Brown into Elizabeth Warren's coven.
Pat Roberson has been right all along!
He soitinly has, though never correct.
Actually, numb-nuts Brown thought that the Super PAC was an upgraded trim line for his truck.
MONEYBOMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://secure.elizabethwarren.com/moneybomb/?sc=…
Scott Brown is just another Massachusetts moderate, which is another way of saying "Republican road kill."
OT: Andrew Sullivan seems to be on the Obama bandwagon now. http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/01/15/…
Still an asshole, though.
Well, yes.
Here he is being interviewed about the article on Hardball: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/#46016860
"Obama's Long Game"? Is there, perhaps, a sub-text to that title?
Well, he IS black…
Well, what is the definition of "coordination"? If a candidate tells a Super-PAC NOT to do something, isn't that coordination? If a candidate says "don't run attack ads" publicly, wouldn't the Super-PAC have to go ahead and RUN attack ads in order to cover the candidate's ass? This is farcical.
Of course it's farcical. Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert spent a couple of hours showing us just HOW farcical. And now that the nudniks on the right end of the spectrum have finally figured out that those of us who warned them that this was farcical were correct all along, even THEY are busy weeping, wailing and rending their garments over it. There's a groundswell of sentiment, and I hope it's successful in overturning this stupid, corrupt concept. I sincerely hope.
Ah, but tonight Mitt and Newt told us how the R's want to "get rid of superPACs"–by removing ALL limits on campaign funding, for freedom.
PACs save Americans millions – maybe billions of dollars a year by eliminating the need for individuals to contribute to campaigns. Why doesn't the liberal lamestream media point this out!
Is anyone going to be able to stomach the idiots (i.e. both candidates and Fox News) long enough to watch the debate tonight?
Ugh. We did it the first thousand debates, what's one more?
Here is what I am doing: Smelling my delicious crock pot full of lentil soup, prepping a quiche and then I'm going to hang out with my most favorite people in the world – my S.O. and my cats. We're going to talk and eat and laugh. Absolutely nothing these people have to say is of any value, and I'm conserving my venom for when it really matters in a few weeks. One more sideshow act and I will flat out lose the last shred of my mind.
Maybe we can bribe the editors into watching and commenting then we just have to comment on what they say and not really watching it.
For the bribe, we could all volunteer to pay higher wonkette dues this month.
What? I'm the only one paying dues? Well, that sucks.
Is that how you get P? How much dough for extra P?
Who wouldn't pay for a bigger p-ness?
Awww yeah.
No. Next?
Will there be a liveblogging event here tonight? Oh please please please say yes. It's South Carolina, bitches!!
And — Myrtle Beach? Really? That's where lower-middle-class families like mine went for vacation, and I guess still do. A "Redneck Riviera" destination, if you will. PLUS, what if Stephen Colbert shows up?!
Live From Pedro's South of the Border!
get a room you two!
Ew, I do not want to picture Brown having sex with anyone, much less the delightful Ms. Warren.
The mental image is difficult to dismiss considering we've seen one of them naked.
Good plan.
That way they can bang out their differences.
FoxNews.com will have a live feed starting at 8:45 ET. Word on the street is Gingrich and Santorum will go at each other for the 'Not Romney' category and Ron Paul will just be his cranky self. Mittens will try not to screw up and stay out of everyone else's way. Rick Perry will probably self-destruct, again.
Live blog, Kristen/Ken/Liz?
What about Buddy Roemer?
Haha…just kidding…
His bots are now asking, in voices quivering with indignation and hurtness of Teh Fee Fee, if he plans to throw his support to RMONEY the corporate whore. So I guess he's dropping out, though no announcement yet that I've heard (course, I was snoring for the last few hours after PT, so that's about all I have heard).
They don't seem to be keen on this idea, judging by the silence. What was the topic of this thread?
Is it viewable anywhere besides Faux News? Tuning in to that channel is against my religion.
They may be the only game in town.
I am tuned to Fox and am awaiting the live blog here on Wonkette….
Try this:
Huffington Post has a feed: South Carolina Debate: Republic Candidates Face Off: (LIVE UPDATE)
Since I couldn't get Foxnews.com's live feed to work, thanks.
What will the consequences be? Is this going to be a stupid college prank and involve shaving half of their heads if they chicken out, or something cool like taking a Taser in the pooper?
I was going to say, "Taser in the pooper, what a horrible thought," till I remembered that they're ambulatory piles of poop, so, really, anywhere's good.
Wasn't Elizabeth Warren behind the Consumer Protection Agency? I have such a wonk-crush on her.
(wonk-boner?)
I have lady wood for her ideology. Ginormous, raging, vibrating lady wood.
Member of a splinter group, huh?
At the worst, a callus I hope.
Me, too.
Me too also.
I think the critical difference between the two is that Warren wears her pink shorts under her pants.
Oh sure…they're all "let's set an example"…until Warren starts handing Scott his ass like Brady to Tebow on a Saturday night…then, when he 15+ points behind, he'll open up his six-pack of super pack kick ass until he's neck and neck with her. Why? Because of the scorpion riding on the back of the frog…it's his fucking nature and not one person will bat an eye because he's GOP and what the fuck did we expect.
YET, if Warren sees she about to lose and opens up to some superpac money, the far left will see it as selling out, the reasonable left will see it as the only way out of a bad situation, and the right will MOTHERFUCKING TRUMPET IT AS SELLING OUT.
That's how I see it anyway.
I need a lively hour or two grading Newt and Santorum on how much shit they give Mittens. Also, listening for the moment Rick Perry goes full retard.
Yes indeedy. I'm still hoping for a surprise guest appearance by my current fantasy boyfriend, Stephen Colbert. Plus I found out today the pain in my neck is a herniated disk. I coulda swore it was from watching too many Rethug debates.
Ow. Hope it doesn't require surgical intervention, like mine did…
So what *else* is wrong with you, gayhusband? Did I buy me a pig in the poke, or WUT?
I understand surgery has a very low success rate with back problems. Did it work for you? There's new technology now, nonsurgical intervention. I think someone I know is having it soon. Weird stuff. Anywho, tell me if yours worked, and what you had, exactly, if you want to.
I'm a wreck! L-5/S-1 laminectomy, 4 knee surgeries, 6 foot surgeries, rotator cuff, bicep tendon, ulnar nerve, just getting started! It's cool though, good insurance and pensions…
Whoa, doody, doesn't that just suck? So sorry, sweetie. Did they tell you if it can be fixed, and how? Hope you got good meds for the nonce. Gentle hug.
The doc is referring me to a neurosurgeon/neurologist? Anyway, I'm hoping some phys. therapy or chiropractor or something, anything, other than surgery. Yeah I've got the painkiller and the muscle relaxer but they make me groggy and useless. Kinda like I usually am, actually! Thanx {{ }}
Hey, I totally know from painkiller, it's why I'm such a babbling pile of shit these days. Here's hoping it gets better soon. There's a new nonsurgical, or noninvasive, procedure available. I should go ask my friend about that, she has the same problem you do, and is scheduled to have this thing done. I'll let you know when I find out. Take care of yourself.
Not another debate tonight!??!!!
It's "Hate Whitey Day" in Whitelandia, dood. The only PROPER way to commemorate it is to have a bunch of old rich white guys debate about which of them gets to throw the current Blah inhabitants out of the White House.
Saturday night proved that Jeebus doesn't love Tim Tebow. Tonight proves he doesn't love Wonketeers, either, too, also.
(Sob!)
Besides, I need the diversion of the lively hour or two because the Old Man was clearing cedar today and, since he was on the tractor, volunteered to take out the two of four peach trees that were dead. (Drought, cold winter and scorching summer–ten year old trees). He got on the job before I could get outside to supervise. Now I have three dead peach trees. Two that died from weather and the live one that has tractor wheel tread all over the roots. The soon-to-be-dead one.
When I got over the shock, I realized we would laugh about this someday. Just not today.
Sorry to hear about the peach trees. We're about to plant a dozen or so here. We have the drought and scorching summer–but no cold winter!
A dozen? When I replant what died, I'll only have 4 peaches, 5 apples and two pears that neither bloom nor bear fruit. The Dust Bowl is hell on orchards.
Wow. That's worse than my pitiful herniated disk. All sympathies.
**Important safety tip: Do not kill spouse. They can send you to jail for that sort of thing.
That sucks. Mine just bulges and my neck hurts all the time. I hope this works itself out for you in a painless, cheap way. Hahahahaha. Seriously–if you can opt for physical therapy over the knife, I hope it works. It's what I did.
That's what's coming next. Referral to neurosurgeon. Half of what I hear is oh avoid surgery at all costs, chiropractor, phys. therapy, acupuncture, etc. The other half is all "surgery did it, quick and done, no more pain." Meantime I'm getting cortisone shots and taking painkillers/muscle relaxers. What a drag it is gettin' old.
"Do not kill spouse. They can send you to jail for that sort of thing. "
"That sucks. Mine just bulges and my neck hurts all the time."
Sheesh … rough crowd tonight.
I thought you *liked* the rough trade, Biely.
Oh boy. I offer one friendly hug in consolation for the peach trees, and one for the Old Man who is doubtless feeling like shit right now. The death of a tree is such a sad thing.
I know what's going on here. Warren wants Brown's superpacket . HENGH?!
No live blog?
Haaaarumph!
We're on our own here. I'm shaking the Cosmos up right now.
Anybody need a freshener? Martinis? Wine? Beer?
There's another one Thursday and then again next Monday and the following Thursday. I think the editors have had it with those late hours, watching idiots, and trying to crack wise.
And I've got TV shows to watch on Thursdays, not letting the debates interfere with that. (although not Community for the indeterminate future – *sob*).
The editors are so drunk by now that they forgot about us. I'll take this as a sign from gawd that I should go to bed early and read my new book, "Apollo's Angels." No, not a book about NASA. The history of ballet. How the fuck could life possibly be better than this?
Seriously, I am not going to brave a Repubtard debate, on Faux Newz yet, by myself.
I'm with you DBB. Watching Betty White's 90th birthday party special (Inga is a loser, I know), then bed and a Kate Atkinson mystery. Can't make myself click on Faux Nooz.
Sounds beautiful. The book. I guess I could try finishing my two gazillion books, even if I will miss Teh Wonketz.
Okay, I'll start. Newt is a pigshit fuckhead. The Faux guy with plastic hair "presses" him. Now he's saying some stupid shit.
That's pretty much all the debates so far.
He's the Egg McMuffin of candidates.
2 Ronald Reagans already.
More to come, I'm sure.
How many Hail Marys? How many Our Fathers?
"vulture!" Isn't that the chug word? Hello? Anyone out there? Fuck it, I'm chugging.
Chug!
"Release the income tax, Mitt" warrants a cheer from the groundlings.
You got to wonder what his taxes look like. I bet it's mostly overseas tax shelters.
Mittens is such a smarmy cunt, he cannot be told anything , he is so fucking entitled.
L'il Rickah: "We cannot FAHR ehre nominee is Septembah." Don't worry shithead, you won't be around that long.
WTF is he talking about?
I love how the other candidates are smelling the blood in the water. They are going all OWS on his fake ass. Look how much we are changing the debate, even within a GOP primary.
Dig it!
I can't imagine what amount of disinfectant the GOP Powers could possibly use which would cover up the stink of what their own candidates are saying about Mittens.
(If stink = truth)
The GOP Powers would then have to make us all stare into the Men In Black Neuralizing Memory Zapper at the same time.
All 300 million of us. BWAHAHAHA!
Oh it's time for the eyebrow merkins.
Is Romneybot swe…sw…sw..sweating?!
It's his conscience trying to kill him.
What conscience?
a vestigial bit that the surgery and radiation missed. But don't worry, it's not anything Mittens' immune system can't handle.
Mitt does not sweat, he perspires
Divests. Oh, no, that's Santorum.
Never mind.
It's really beads of moisture from the oil that's applied to his metallic joints.
The bot was clearly nervous tonight. Was he waiting for a bombshell that (as far as I can tell) never came?
Maybe there's a breaking story that's about to hit the presses, and he's wondering if his bagman made the payoff in time to avert the threatened outing?
This crowd sounds as if they may cheer for killing puppies.
Yep, they sound like the good, ole hangin' kind of conservatives.
EDIT: Drug cocks?!
If those puppies tried to raise their taxes, they'd eat them for breakfast.
Only if they're BLACK labs.
Santorum wants to repeal reality.
Don't we all.
Santorum burn!
That crowd really hates Romney.
They certainly do.
Mittens is getting the smackdown from Santorum.
Santorum's criticisms are a little runny…
Fuck Fox. I can't even watch it with You Good People now.
Rachel's interviewing Dan Rather now, about Steven Colbert and Citizen's United.
Weirdly, there's a tiny floating Ron Paul head on the upper right screen, for no apparent reason.
(This) is not a good town for hallucinogenic drugs. Reality itself is too twisted.
Ron Paul is like that little green guy in the Flinstones of America.
Awesome. I'll use this – with credit, o'course!
The Great Gazoo? Awesome. Does that make Mittens Mr. Slate?
The Great Gazoo! Thanks. Couldn't pull the name out of the ol' storage banks.
It must. And Perry could be Barney?
Barney was a lot smarter.
I believe so. And Rick Santorum is some guy running around secretly sucking brontosaurus dick.
Ha! The absudity of Super PACs is SO on display, right now. They all look like complete and utter fakes.
I was thinking the same thing. What makes it really weird is that they can't legally tell the super PACS to knock it off even if they sincerely wanted them to stop spewing bullshit.
They are Frankenstein monsters. You have limited ability to direct them at an enemy, but you can't tell them when to stop, and you can't tell them not to exist when you get tired of them and when they start to hurt you.
it's like the internet.
MittBot 2012 needs to reboot. His output is all gibberish now.
That guy looks like a perfect GOP racist douche.
And he's lying; South Carolina is in no way a beautiful state.
Charleston is nice. But it does have that whole built by slavery vibe that kind of puts me on edge, though.
Yeah, the coasts are beautiful, but the place feels haunted, figuratively and literally, by its past. Like most blahs, this is the last state I can trace the African side of my family back to, and like most blahs, I have mixed feelings about the place…which I've never set foot in.
I've only driven through it (well, been driven; I was 13) and the first thing you see when you enter it on I-95 from the north is South of the Border, a tourist trap filled with racist caricatures of Mexicans. It really hasn't changed much.
Same here, my people took a different 'cruise' but same end result.
Real Americans think 'beautiful colonial house' , blah people think ' I know damn well this shit was built with slave labor'
I hear you both. My sentiments also. I've never been anywhere in the South except for Atlanta, GA, and all I can say is, I have never felt so uncomfortable in my life. White people would not look me in the eye and it bothered me very badly. The only place this has ever happened to me is Solvang, CA. A town I will never ever set foot in again. It's like you don't exist for these people, or you're not quite human, or something.
They are calling Mittens on the flip floppery.
A perfectly lubricated weather vane! Ha!
Being more like a European social welfare state would be a good thing, Mittens.
Then we'd all have what we need to live. Can't you see how awful hat would be?
America is becoming something we dont recognize… unless you were alive in the robber baron days of the 1910s
And of course the crowd cheers trying to disenfranchise black voters.
War!!!
Did Perry just declared war on the Federal Government?
I think so. State's rights!
Time for Tom Brady to kick his ass.
SC is where the first civil war started, right?
And Santorum says fuck 99'ers, because giving them money makes them not work.
Started… and never ended, methinks.
Yep. It's one of the Southern states where you can still see bumper stickers with a little Snuffy-Smith-type character holding a "Rebel" flag and saying "Hell No, I Ain't Fergettin'!" So hilarious.
Big cheers for we are "at war" with the government.
No snark, that was the most telling "big cheer" of the whole series of debates so far. Fuckers – they're the FIRST ones to declare other people unAmerican.
In South fucking Carolina. I don't know if that shows they are ignorant about history; or are just plain evil and wish the bad guys won the Civil War.
I'm sure you can guess which it is, dear.
Perry, South Carolina once actually literally went to war with the federal government. They lost.
VA, NC, SC, GA and TX are all one-for-two on successful wars for independence. They really want that tiebreaker.
I am so tired of Perry using the word "war" in South Carolina when it comes to the VRA. This is exactly the kind of bullshit dog-whistle that is irresponsible and a kind of harkening back to the Civil War that South Carolina, or all states, shouldn't even want to be reminded of.
They were the bad guys, and we kicked their asses; the continued Southern apologetics for the War of Treason in Defense of Slavery is sickening.
That is exactly correct. Maybe he wants SC and TX to form some kind of a Union to fight the feds. A 'confederacy' if you will.
This is all about the South wishing they had won that war they started so long ago. It's all about the Blah guy in the White House. You know it, I know it. This dog whistle is deliberate. Perry's trying to remind all those fucking rednecks down there that they're white and they can't let no n***** tell them what to do.
War on religion my ass, Rick Perry you fucking waste of everything. Jesus Christ my cat has better political instincts than you do, you festering pile of stupid.
Newt: fuck the unemployed! Fuck you.
Why doesn't the crowd just yell "Theres a nigger in the White House"?
That's what happens during the breaks.
Well, that would just be plain vulgar, Ms. Lizzie. In the South, you talk about these things in quiet rooms…
I'd like to drop a huge, smelly fart in one of those quiet rooms.
And Victoria Jackson playing during the breaks.
"The president is near."
"Barack Obama doesn't believe in work. The best food stamp president in American history!"
Wow. Let it all out Newt.
I'm surprised he didn't say "shiftless".
He's been saying that shit for months now. What a jack wad. Worst. Dog. Whistle. Ever.
Dog whistle my ass, it's like a fucking fog horn on a battleship.
Obama=Foodstamps=hateswork=shiftless.
It's the transitive property of dog whistle racism, if I recall my history.
What the fuck is Mittens talking about? Take care of their friends???
If i had $ 2million dollars for Beth i would have just saved $2 mil earmarked for her this fall. Great, now lets look for another corrupt politician to bribe. That should take 30 seconds.
Not watching GOP debates because i could regurgitate my arroz con frijoles just by seeing Newton Gingriche
Um, Mittens, when the government stopped telling the banking system what to do, they caused the recession we're currently crawling out of.
As president, Romney promises to never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
Does Newt really think we should spend way more money to train people for jobs that don't exists other than just let people find their own jobs in their own way? These fuckers all claim to want liberty for people, as long as they do exactly what they want them to do.
There's a bright side to all this….only 6 more days until Perry drops out.
But does she drive a truck, that's what I want to know.
Mister, we could use a man like General Sherman again.
I read that to the tune of the "All in the Family" theme song.
That was kind of the intention.
Oh, good.
♫ ♪ Boy the wages sure were fair
Hardly had a need to care.
Corporations paid their share
Those were the days. ♫ ♪
And it's true; this country has gotten much better socially since the 1950s, in terms of treatment of non-white people, women, gay people and just sex in general, but in terms of economics and class there has been a hard turn to fucking over the poor and middle class and a great increase in inequality starting with the Reagan administration.
Dammit! My reply function won't work! And I've had scintillating things to say! WTF??
"Flat tax. Simple. Keep it simple." — Rick Perrah. Keep it simple so simpleton can kind of understand it. Fucking simpleton.
I wonder how he'd feel about a subsidy-killing flat tax on corporate profits, instead of just one that raises taxes on poor people?
How low can you go on taxes? 0% yay!!!!!!!!!
Zero wins!
Oh good, Paul's calling for no income taxes; good to see him bring on the crazy after the brief moment of making sense on military spending.
I waiting for one of these fuckers to come out for a negative tax rate.
Man, this bunch o' debaters has got the SC crowd all fahred up and a-cheerin' and shit. Yee haw! Zero taxes! Yay-ah! Beat the n****r what's squattin' tha WHITE House!
Mittens doesn't want to release his tax records does he.
They just booed having your parents born in Mexico. lol
That was damn funny. Did Mittens' dad emigrate legally, do we have um, papers, that say so?
It will be funny that the repubs run 2 anchor babies in a row
Also, everybody should check out @MexicanMitt on twitter, funny shit.
Thanks, I will.
Bishop Willard "Mitt" Romney's GRANDfather left the US with his wives in protest of the polygamy laws. It is not clear whether his son George (Willard's father) was born there, but I understand that the old man gave up his American citizenship, which would make all his children born in Mexico Mexican citizens unless they asserted their right to US citizenship when they came of age. AFAIK, there is no record of George Romney ever applying for US citizenship. So, not only is Mitt Romney an anchor baby, but (and here's where the birfer heads explode), JUST LIKE OBAMA, his father might be a foreign citizen. Does that mean that Obama can haz Presidency?
Mittens is really nervous about that tax issue, isn't he?
Mittens was nervous about everything tonight. I think he was waiting for a bombshell that never came. Or maybe he just forgot to pee before he went on stage.
I wish I could Upfist you multiple times, just for that. Yes, experiencing the debate vicariously through you all, because I just can't force myself to watch FOX.
Oh Juan. Look at who you're hanging out with.
Oh shit! They just brought up Mitt's Mexican pappy.
I'm sick of these disingenuous fucking morons (yes, because I'm stupid and drinking, I'm watching this shitfest)
Social mobility (or intergenerational income elasticity) is lower in the US than Germany, France and fucking Sweden.
This whole "American Dream" thing being related to low taxation is so much horseshit that it actually hurts.
Yeah, the American Dream is real – this is an awesome country. However, wrapping it up in fucking stupid Grover poxy Norquistisms is that much bullshit. America is about freedom and doing whatever you want to do etc and so on, but you have to live here to do that. The price you pay is … taxation.
In summary, I hate these people with a cold burning hate.
If my Reply function will permit it, I will totally agree with everything you just wonderfully said.
If it isn't already obvious, I'd suggest they hate us equally.
Know what? I think you're damn right. They hate all of us.
The American Dream has worked far better in Europe for years now.
fukui, i love you with a firey passion.
i spent the evening in the hospital with my (young!) boy who has a blood clot (he is home and medicated and hope this will pass soon). most of the time we talked about insurance and deregulation and free markets.
it was very nice to read this cogent summary…
also: horseshit should be used more often.
WUT? Your partner? ZOMG, is there a sickout tonight, or wut? Oh fu, sorry, man, that sucks. FWIW, they put you on rat poison for X weeks and you have to do all these exercises to keep your circulation up and wear these stupid stocking things that can cut into you something terrible, but it's curable. That's the good news.
All the best to you both.
Jesus, Fukui, a person could get awfully shitfaced that way.
Oh, wait. Never mind.
Mitt, our legal immigration system is fucked up and it's pretty much impossible to immigrate here without either marrying an American citizen or having high in demand job skills; when our ancestors immigrated here legally there were no legal limitations on immigration (well except for the despicable "no Chinese" rule that wasn't reversed until after WWII), you just had to come here.
Exactly. Bingo. Immigration policy used to be "show up".
I hate how they talk about past immigration. So long as you didn't have some kind of serious, communicable illness, or come from certain countries, you were pretty much granted citizenship on the spot.
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
Yeah.
I'm an immigrant by way of marriage. I work for a UK company (my own) and pay taxes in the US. That's free fucking money for the US.
It's bastard hard to get into this country legally, even with a very high level of education. It's somewhat easier if you have fucktons of money and intend to invest it (I seem to recall it's something like $250K, but it might be more now).
Yeah, I used to work in immigration law and it's a bitch even for those who have married American citizens. There's a whole shitload of complicated forms, fees that add up to thousands of dollars, and even if people do everything right the USCIS fucks up a lot.
Obama hates marriage? Who knew?
If Obama really loved Marriage he would have done it more, just like Newt.
nice.
Many virtual upfists, and all.
Hitler?
And Santorum is on the no-fucking train again; that is actually unconscionable.
What a hateful piece of shit Santorum is.
Oh no. Ron Paul starting to make sense. (Very little cheering for that true rant) Where's my glass?
I thought they were going to boo his ass. My eyes almost popped out when he started talking about not enough rich whites being executed.
Don't worry, it won't last long.
It didn't. Sigh.
With Huntsman gone, Paul is probably the sanest of the bunch.
I think the worst place for discrimination is probably in Ron Paul's living room.
Ron Paul, rule #1 in South Carolina GOP politics: don't say "MLK, jr." without saying "communist" within the sentence.
I thought Jesse Helms was from North Carolina…
Newt: let eleven-year-olds work! What the fuck.
What was Newt doing when he was eleven years old, besides masturbating to pictures of Joe McCarthy? I delivered newspapers during the summer when I was 10 and 11, and year-round when I was 12. What the hell does that have to do with the sending of jobs overseas, massive upward redistribution of wealth, and continued racial discrimination in this country? What a vicious fuck!
Those little fingers are GREAT for those low-pay tasks requiring dexterity, you know, like assembling electronic chips and such, or knotting silk rugs. Wut, OTHER people do it.
Yes Newt, there is no discrimination.
TWATWAFFLE!
sorry.
Don't be.
Really, that's unconscionably rude to waffles.
And twats.
Now that you mention it …
Is Newt actually exploiting his daughter again? First, to try to mitigate against his treatment of her mother, now to justify his "bring back child labor" bullshit? I cannot listen to this fuckhead anymore. "This is a good thing if you're poor!" And of course all the SC redneck jackoffs cheer.
Juan is getting all black.
Too bad that it's too late.
Better late than never. He's also a bit Messican tonight.
He definitely was getting all uppity tonight, although still in a deferential way. Maybe he would have been even more uppity if he hadn't been in fear of his life from the audience.
Right, janitors are paid too high. Because people who clean toilets simply don't provide society with as much as fat historians, right?
Don't call him an historian. He certainly hasn't worked as one in decades. Nor has he achieved anything close to academic honours in his field. Call him what he is: an aging, fat, braggart of a has-been egomaniac.
"Only the elites despise earning money" – Newt.
Drops microphone, stage dives into the crowd
Are they booing the black church?
I can't remember now, was it burned down? If not, I'd reply, yes.
No really, Newt's support of fucking child labor has put him at the top of the most despicable list.
And the crowd boos one of the moderators pointing out the racist dog-whistles.
Did they really just laugh at Newt saying Juan's name?
Yeah. Cause he said it like "Well,….JUAN (you fucking whatever you are)…"
Nigra has a funny name.
Juan was just a bit uppity tonight, eh?
What did you expect Juan?
Look around you.
I hope it's like a nightmare he can't wake up from.
Juan sure ain't worrying about Muslims tonight.
Juan's used to those polite liberal crowds that frown at you.
Booing? Black church gets booing?
"First of all, Juan," says the fucking condescending arrogant shitbag Gingrich. OMG what a fucking douchebag that giant-headed douchenozzle is.
That standing ovation for racism beat the one I got when I was performing "Shirley Valentine" nightly.
Your mistake was not performing it in blackface.
I just started hating Newt a bit little more. I didn't think that was possible.
What did it for you? The elites hate earning money comment?
His racsim direct at Juan.
I saw what you saw, it was like Shut The Fuck Up, Juan, your'e neither black or hispanic, but either way I hate you. (FYI, I believe he is Jamaican/Panamian)
I'm so glad you're watching this for me, because if I felt any more negatively about Newt than I do, I'd pop an artery.
Logged in but looked at earlier threads instead of the debate. Gonna go stare at one of them things….fergit…..have words too…. but made of paper ……ink….whatchamacallem….
I think you're lying – your train of thought clearly indicates that you've been watching the debate.
I'd just like to remind everyone that this horrible conversation tonight are merely the things they allow themselves to say in Public. Imagine what goes on when they're sure no one is watching.
Thank you, Wonketters, for braving this Bonfire on the Humanities for me.
To those about to Retch, we salute you!
Too bad they'll have to keep this insanity up in order to get their base out to vote. This next year is going to get fucking wild.
Insanity, umbrage and rage are all they have now. No one can stay in a perpetual rage for years. I'm betting lots of these people will burn out. One can only hope.
That said, I hope I have enough Drink to get me through the lunacy that will come.
OMG That sand sculpture is awesome!
Awww. I missed it.
It was a faux Mt Rushmore with these turds and it still had Jon Huntsman on it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2087199/G…
Thanks! I think.
It is! It's a veritable Box of Dicks!
Thank you. I'll have nightmares now but it's worth it.
Thanks, L Squared! I can hardly wait to figuratively unzip myself and express my opinion about that sculpture, for freedom.
Yeah, I have a sudden urge to take a piss too.
I'm also reading the Indecision Forever blog. Its got some good lines, but I would still rather be reading Layne or Kirsten.
Grandpa Paul is running low on juice.
Forget it Ron; this is South Carolina.
Ron Paul just lost the racist, anti-Muslim vote.
again.
So, you mean that Ron Paul has just lost damn-near the entire Republican Party, right?
That would be correct.
Man, Ron Paul and the crowd really don't like the fact that it was our black Democratic President who got bin Laden.
They love this fat, fucking racist Newton Leroy though.
And his plan to bring back child labor.
And now Newt's supporting Obama; the world is upside-down.
Grandpa Ron has been over this a thousand times Bret, you're not going to win.
Oh good, now they're going to ask them all like on taxes.
Gringrich: "Oh yes, I'd kill him."
Perry: "I'd kill him, then piss on his grave."
Romney: "I'd kill him, piss on his grave, and fuck his wife!"
Santorum: "I'd kill him, piss on his grave, beat up his wife and fuck his son!"
YEAH! Boo the Golden Rule!
None wish to fuck the corpse?
Well….Huntsman quit so…
But cheer the Golden Shower Rule.
BOOOO to the Golden Rule – Fuck that shit. Muscular Jesus does not approve!
They only boo the shit that makes sense.
You could white balance a camera with this crowd.
OMG. Ron Paul is getting booed for quoting the Golden Rule. Hayell fahr no! Nuke everbodah!! Oh and Mittens' follow up: Kill 'em! Kill 'em all, everywhere! woo-hoo kill ever-bodah!
I thought Mittens was about to ejaculate in his pants when his eyes bulged out and he said to kill 'em all. No snark, that was scary! I thought he was a sociopath before tonight ..
Mittens you fucking chickenhawk. Why haven't your kids enlisted or you for that matter?
I'm astounded once again by the hateful ignorance displayed by the audience. Should these kinds of assholes elect a ship-of-fools this year we are fucking doomed.
Welcome to my world.
Just remember that this is much less than 30% of the electorate, and they're crazy enough to scare the shit out of the sane people. Do your best to make sure you talk all your friends and neighbours and family into voting. Volunteer if you have time. Throw some $$ at your candidate if you have them. We have to do what we can to ensure that none of these crazy fucks gets within 100 miles of the doomsday button.
I think I've nearly reached the point of where I may actually stop watching these. I'm finally beginning to feel dirty. These fuckers are horrible with a capital H, un-American, if you will.
I keep watching with the hope that they will all pull out their guns and shoot each other… dead.
Seriously. I've had the mute button on for 10 minutes now. I'm only hanging in because I love my fellow Wonketters so much and I need the realism reinforcement.
i haven't watched tv since like 1994 so i never watch these.
but the wonkette, ahhhh the wonkette comments.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2087199/G…
I saw it on the TeeVee. NO WAY I'm clicking on that linkee. I wish some Marines would pee on that sand sculpture.
Well, it is a portrait of a lot of dicks, so… yes?
These idiots are going to be the death of us. "We spend $600B a year so we can have a military that no one will dare test!" Meanwhile… we are fighting around the world people who are constantly trying to test us.
To paraphrase Montgomery Burns: "Why do those thieving despicable lying foreigners hate us so?"
Jesus H. Christ, Mittens, the Taliban are our enemy because they are killing our people? How many of those mo-fos have come onto our soil killing our people? They're killing our people because we're in their county killing their people! But then their people are brown, so fuck it.
Are they really questioning Turkey's placement in NATO? Really? And "Islamist"? Really? You mean like how the Republican Party is a fundamentalist, Christianist political party, right?
Erdogan criticized Israel so they're no longer friends.
Talk of kicking Turkey out of NATO gives Putin wood.
Did he just say Turkey is run by Islamic Terrorists? Hahaha. Oh man.
This is really good stuff. This is like…. wow.
"Syria, Iran, and Turkey" in a group? Wow. Rick Perry is completely retarded.
When whoever it was asked Perry about Turkey, I was really hoping that he would spring a truly gotcha question on Ricky – set up a scenario that was blatently false, but inflammatory – and watch Ricky take off on a BS tirade against something that never happened. But I guess that might be journalistically unethical. But fun.
And now they're trying to stir up racist hatred against the only democracy in the Middle East; lovely.
C'est ne pas une pipe.
Ils sont les pipes, tout-le-monde, Katie.
"You're talking about the… um… urinating on… the…um, corpses."
Yup!
I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a deceased Talib is micturated upon in Helmand Province, I have to compensate Hamid Karzai?
(OK, I'll stop with the Lebowskiing)
Rick Perry is a fucking moron.
Yes. Yes, he is. Which is why the South Carolina crowd is cheering him so robustly.
Water is wet
OhmiDarwin, does that mean there are Perry children??
I b'leev he dropped two in the Poo-L before her Daddy snipped his tubes.
I just wanna add that if you thought Rick Purreh was an ugly mofo, you gotta see his kid. A face even a mother would have trouble wiv.
And Perry is defending pissing on corpses again; lovely. Oh and the current Secretary of Defense is a Republican initially appointed by Bush.
Leon Panetta says hello.
Leon Panetta: the T-Paw of the Pentagon.
I believe the person to whom you are referring is back in Virginia now. In fact, he is now the chancellor of my undergrad alma mater (vomits in mouth).
"Cutting Danny [sic] Pearl's head off? THAT's despicable!" No, Li'l Ricky Perrah. What's despicable is you, using such atrocities to try to gin up your favorability in front of a crowd full of South Carolina redneck fuckheads. THAT's despicable.
Wasn't that disgusting?
The disgustingest. The bonehead was just so obviously trying to get some claps. So pathetic.
Pandering in and of its own self is disgusting enough. Pandering on national tee-vee to a bunch of fucktard redneck yokel jackasses is indeed the disgustingest.
As if there aren't more than a few in SC who would jump at the chance to decapitate a NYT reporter.
Especially a Jew.
Mittens got booed.
He's way too librul for this crowd.
Yes, Mittens, we can put people who have committed treason (like most of South Carolina a century and a half ago) in jail, after trial. It's the no trial part decent people have a problem with.
Barry already signed the law, there's no use trying to debate the matter any more
OK, mittens explain this
Looks like Ronnie making the biggest heroin score ever?
Oh that is good.
Obviously photoshopped.
Gipper plays Scheherazade in the Washington Men's Bathhouse production of the Arabian Nights.
Our navy is the smallest since 1917. What the fuck does that even mean? We need more sailing sloops? Steam powered dreadnoughts?
These people are fucking cranks. We need to save money on this goddamn boondoggle. It is killing us having this gigantic military that gets anything it wants. $20B on air conditioning in the desert? And for what? What have we earned here? Gah. Such bullshit.
My brother, an ex-Navy pilot, posted this link on his Facebook page tonight with the one-word comment, "Unbelievable".
Easy, buy another dozen aircraft carriers, amirite?
Its exactly this kind of shit that bugs me – exactly this kind of shit that somehow doesn't manage to get into those conversations about "government spending".
Give anyone a trillion dollars and they'll find a way to spend it, no doubt. Like that old joke "NASA spent 10 million dollars developing a pen that could write in space, no gravity, upside down, and underwater. The Soviets used a pencil." It is just so much money and the return is … something to fly over football stadiums? All that money, we didn't have the right…anything… when we went into Iraq. It is absolutely pointless to have this gigantic standing military sucking up SO much resources when it would be smarter to have a strong army – but just build what we need when the time comes, as that is what we end up doing anyway.
That's not a joke, about NASA. I'm not sure about the amount of money they spent, but it is a matter of record.
The habeas corpus provisions of the Constitution apply to anyone held by the US; not just citizens. Grr.
That dead Taliban guy really pulled the whole room together, man.
They peed on your dead Taliban guy, Dude.
And Romney wants to fuck over Social Security and Medicare for those of us who aren't currently olds, or close to it; well fuck you too Mitt.
Scotty, time for another playgirl pinup shot
"As a historian…" LOL Newt, seriously, no one cares you fat doofus.
Newton Leroy Gingrich: the most overpaid Historian Impersonator in America today.
Debate needs a historectomy.
Newt thinks our model should be Chile under Pinochet? Really? REALLY?!?!
Yes. But only if he can be in charge of the "Dissapearing" unit.
This surprises you how, exactly?
It shouldn't; but it still does. Arggh!
Instead of European style socialism he prefers a military dictatorship. Someone should call him on his anti-Americanism.
To him, that IS Americanism.
Newtie probably tears up everytime he sees a rerun of Weekend Update where it is announced that Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.
Chile really pulled together after 9/11.
Heh…Nate Silver's Debate-o-tweet: "If elected president, I will reduce taxes to negative infinity."
Newt's reality seems really nice. How do I get there?
Through a hole so wide that only Newt can pass through.
Think about that.
And, here I was thinking that it was Perry with a "Huge opening".
It is huge, but it is clogged with Santorum.
Hard drugs and/or autoerotic asphyxiation.
Drugs, truckloads of money and a psycopathological sense of self importance. Better get started.
Santorum looks even more geeky and unthreatening when he's angry.
You think that would be a trait that would not easily pass down through natural selection.
We should consider the possiblity – the strong possibility – that he is a mutant.
Ricky, a flat tax does the exact opposite of "leveling the playing field" and just hurts the little guy, moron.
Does Santorum comb his hair with epxoy?
No. "There's Something About Ricky"
Santorum® — now in new convenient spray-on extra-hold!
"Mmmm…Santorum-y! Hehhehheh.
It's a floor wax! It's a dessert topping!
Mmmmm….that's good bass!
Also good, is the Guardian Liveblog: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/17/south…
Now Newt's taking credit for Clinton's accomplishments. Sorry, the 90s balanced budgets were the result of the 1994 tax increases, before you became Speaker, asshole.
Tax increases could never bring in enough revenue to balance the budget without destroying prosperity forever! Where'd you get a wacky notion like that?
God, having Rick Perry around really does make the rest of these ignoramuses seem smart. I was just watching Santorum thinking "Well, he's not the dumbest guy I've seen tonight."
Why do you think they keep letting him play no matter HOW low his numbers drop?
Mitt has got an excuse for everything.
He's had a lot of practice.
Mitt Romney's gonna TAKE YER GUNS!!!!!!!!!!
Wait — I thought Obammy was already supposed to have done that! Maybe he's waiting til his next term? That sneaky bastard!
fuck the world. samsuncle is drunk and i like it.
congradulashuns1
The only way to make it through one of these fuck-fests.
100% true. These people are truly odious.
Trampling rights whilst wrapped in the flag and just lying about it. Horrendous, vicious, small-minded bigots with delusions of morality.
My friend, you just summed up the South as I know it. Well done.
And a good portion of why I moved out west 36 years ago.
Romney is a hunter?
Be vewwwy quiet…I'm stwaining cwedulwity!
He's a vulnerable company hunter.
Spear and magic undies.
Oh Bwunnhilde, you're so wovewy!
Yes, I know it. I can't help it.
You tart. Wait'll user finds out.
Oh come on, I saw him say that, and even the Mittbot was having a really hard time keeping a straight face while he said that.
He hunted French tarts during his Mormon rumspringa.
I never get tired of the word "rumspringa".
Just varmints, you know.
"Sometimes you have to get votes for something so that you don't get something that's much worse…" Thanks Rick, you're reminding me again why I have to vote for Obama.
Ramen!
The question on hunting is exactly why people – right and left – despise Mitt Romney. Instead of simply saying that hunting is not his hobby – you know, like a lot of Americans – he goes into this convoluted, tripping lie about moose and then elk hunting.
He's certainly been hunting for excuses.
The funny thing is that there are plenty of Republicans, themselves, who haven't even seen a gun, let alone owning and shooting one, and he goes out of his way to lie about something he doesn't do because he thinks that will get him extra votes. FAIL.
Really not his thing? Could've fooled me cuz I thought I saw a pic of him standing around in his long (magic) underwear in a Cabella's catalog. It had to be him, so life-like and unposed.
"life-like and unposed." Definitely not Mitt Romney.
Santorum is beyond pitiful. Yee haw Second Amendment y'all!
Here's a quote for Santorum:
"You are in more dire need of a blow job than any white man in history!"
– Robin Williams, as the (mythologized) Adrian Cronauer
Oh good. It's the "who has the bigger gun" ranting.
I miss Michele.
Dammit you just beat me.
Now it's who loves their overcompensating substitute penises the most.
He goes on the trips, if invited. Hasn't killed anything, apparently
Ron Paul wants us to have automatic weapons? AWESOME!
Yeah, okay. Let jerkoffs who I don't even trust behind the wheel be in charge of full-auto high capacity military rifles. Because they have so much training and self control.
That'll make the bars a whole lot more interesting.
Freedom + Natural Selection = herd thinning
Ron Paul segues from 2nd amendment rights to medical malpractice? The fuck?! Oh fuck ALL these jerkoffs for pandering so baldly to the slack-jawed knuckledraggers.
Wouldn't Republicans support China's one-child policy? It makes the government decide whether a woman can choose to have a child or not, just like they want.
I'm really angry about that Turkey stuff. Turkey has tried its best, thanks to Ataturk, to prevent Islamist influence in society. These cunts know fucking nothing about Turkey and I find their prevarication distasteful.
I love that Rick Perry said the government was Islamic terrorists. That going to cause some international consternation for sure.
Welllllllll…see Bogart's reply when Peter Lorre asked, "You despise, me, don't you?"
He conflated the Turkish government with terrorists AND he said that that they didn't work in America's interests – despite them being a member of NATO, and despite GWB's push to get Turkey to be a member of the EU.
Oh, and that bit about Iran in 1979? I seem to remember that being a reaction to the UK and US putting the Shah in power after overriding a democratic process in the 1950s by interventionalist means in order to guarantee access to the oil fields. The Shah was a motherfucker to the people, and they overthrew him. Unfortunately, at the time, the onion on the belt was theocratic rule. Reap what you sow, dickwads.
Republicans in general must have memories akin to goldfish. Oh, and no education or historical knowledge.
Uh, sadly, that goes for most people in most countries.
Please. Rick Perry can't remember who tied his shoes.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, if brains were dynamite, Rick Perry couldn't blow his nose.
It must be said: GOLDFISH LIBEL!
Not just distasteful, but dangerous. Turkey was once the ruler of a great empire that comprised all the Muslim nations of the world at the time. It has only been secular since the time of Kemal Ataturk. The continued pressure by racist elements in both the US and the EU seems likely to push Turkey back into the arms of the true Islamists.
Newt has a 98.6% prolife voting record. what about that 1.4% Newt? Huh? LIBERAL!
Newt and Mittens are trying to out smug each other. I think I'm going to be sick.
Gangrenerich is so fucking condescending with his fucking finger-pointing and arm-waving and blubbery head-waggling and gesturing and christ I hate him and wish he would just fucking die.
Calm down baby, that dog avatar is so adorable.
You're right. Must remain calm and not upset the dogs. Thanks LL.
You Need This Poster.
ZOMG, even the DOG thinks that poster is simply adorablez.
PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE SUPERPAC BEHIND THE CURTAIN!
Now they're on "he started it" with the SuperPACs.
Preditor Drones!
Drink!
Debate! What have I missed? Did Mitt's hair move? Did Rick fart and then say oops? Has Newt divorced Callista and remarried?
The crowd booed the fact that Romney's father was born in Mexico. Ron Paul laid out a beautiful plan for world peace based on the Golden rule (which got booed) then said we should have 0% taxes. Rickey said that the government of Turkey, our NATO ally, was made up of Islamic Terrorists…
So, you know, same old shit.
And Newt thought we should model America after Chile 30 years ago – when it was ruled by fucking Augusto Pinochet,
No one will much remember this night on our sad road to American despotism, but to me, it was very important. I'll certainly think of it as I am pushed from the helicopter.
Oh My God Rick Perry is the sorriest stupidest sack of shit ever. Predator drones on the Mexican border?! "The issue isn't about how much it costs"? That will be done within 30 days from the time he "takes his hand off the Bah-bul"? I had no idea he dropped acid before the debates, but it explains a lot.
It's the end. Orgy time!
Could we have an AMEN for banning teachers' unions forever? Oh, shoot, missed opportunity, Newt…
These things really aren't fun, anymore. Perhaps, it is better there wasn't a liveblog.
They;re only for the masochists, but they could at least give us a blank slate. God knows I wouldn't ask KL or KBJ or Liz stay up to watch this bullshit, but give us a debate thread, that's all.
Yay it's over! And there's no way I'm watching post-debate analysis from fucking Fox.
Yep, that's where I drew the line, too. No way, no how.
Speaking of wingtard-enabling commentary, this is the only time I can remember agreeing with David Brooks:
" I sometimes wonder if the Republican Party has become the receding roar of white America as it pines for a way of life that will never return."
The only thing I'd add to that is …"pintes for a life that will never return…and never really was."
Awesome sauce?
On like Donkey Kong?
In your hood?
I just vomited.
"Nintendo's lawyers on line 2!"
"It was fiery!" Bret Baier is referring to the heartburn watching this mess has caused me?
I guess we'll have another do-it-yourself liveblog again this next Thursday. Be thinking of drinking games!
It would be best to drink from now to then…
Without pause.
I'm thinking of exercising my 2nd amendment rights for the first time in my life.
Anyone else watching the FoxNews stream? The asshole talking heads are now trying to decide whether this debate was "ON like Donkey Kong" or maybe if it was "full of awesomesauce"
Um.
Yes, parents, this is what we sound like when we try to talk like our kids.
and now FOX will show us how to be stupiderer than this debate. I can't watch.
Unpossible?
I also heard that Newt "went deep". Good god.
Carson Daly is a Fox News analyst now?
Scott Brown is a Republican. I don't know the guy, I don't know what the believes in, I don't know what he thinks and I don't care: he's a Republican and that's enough for me. That means he's a motherfucking douchebag and he should go fuck himself. The end.
Gawd, all these Rethuglicantards want to do is go back to the 50s. I would too, but ONLY for the part where not every Republican politician was a flaming sociopath.
"Broccoli," huh? Well I say it's spinach and I say the hell with it!
Then choosing to fold laundry and clean the oven was a good choice.
I'd have been folding laundry but my stupid fucking dryer takes forever; oh well I'll probably be able to start by midnight.
My dryer just went "ding"! Quarter to midnight, and I have to be up at 5:30 am. Damn, but the life of an adult is so exciting and glamorous!
Rick Santorum's Johnson approves your choice of activities.
I hope all the Wonketeers had fun watching the debates as a group. I decided to see if I could watch it unassisted, and I succeeded. Now I can only hope that reading all the comments will reorient my neurons so they can once again fire with imparting a message to my brain to thrown a 10-pound weight throught the TeeVee screen. I still have merlot in the bottle.
And for those of you who haven't run across it:
“On Monday, we’re going to be celebrating Dr. Martin Luther King’s birthday and I can’t think of anybody currently in my life right now that more epitomizes the values and the vision of Dr. King than Gov. Rick Scott,” she said. http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-po…
Makes one harken back to the days when people called MLK a communist. I mean, at least that made sense.
But that was Martin Luther King the real man; now he's been turned into MLK the whitewashed icon, and everyone ignores how hated he was by many people, along with his anti-war activism and activism on class issues to support a full welfare state. Fuck, some conservatives claim he would have opposed affirmative action; when he came up with the idea in the first place.
No, not at all! Conservatives, just like King, believe that people should be judged not by the color of their skin, but on the content of their character.
It's not conservatives' fault that so many niggras have dark, dark characters.
I was just explaining that to someone, today. By the end of his life, this guy was despised. He'd been reduced (and I say that from the perspective of the media and general concensus) to picketing with faceless sanitation workers in Memphis, and his work had moved from racial equality to economic justice fights and anti-war protesting. Even many so-called liberals had begun to disown him. If he had lived, this guy would have been one of those "dirty fucking hippies" don't at Zucotti Park. If he had lived, he'd be as hated as Jesse Jackson is by the general populace.
But, what he gets reduced to is this touchy-feely kumbaya character. MLK Jr. had gotten fucking bitter before his untimely death. His criticisms had become more biting, more exacting, more harsh. I don't want America to forget that if he were alive, today, most of them would hate his fucking guts. And, now we have conservatives with the audacity to try and use him as some kind of lucky rabbits foot. Fuck 'em to hell. Yeah, I'm angry.
Ha-ha, remember 52 weeks ago when Sarah Palin said that she was pretty much Martin Luther King her own self
It was one of the last times ol' "Spanky2b" had the stones to actually post here…
MLK wasn't the first martyr for the sake of the poor and downtrodden whose message the GOP has butchered into some sort of Orwellian mockery.
1) She needs to expand her circle of acquaintances
2) The average bonobo, dolphin, or betta fish more clearly embodies "the values and the vision of Dr. King than Gov. Rick Scott."
2a) Who am I kidding? The same could be said of the average inert object.
Black republicans. Gotta love em.
Florida, ladies and gentlemen!
This analysis is horrible. They just said oldz don't know what twitter is – but then they ask who inspires passion on twitter. Huh?
And who is the guy with the toupee and the overgrown goatee in the middle. He's giving me the heebie jeebies.
You're watching the Fox "News" analysis? That's got to be more masochistic than watching the debate itself.
I'm punishing myself for missing the entire debate.
BS = bunnies on sale?
As your pretend internet boyfriend, I'll offer you comfort while going through this shit.
Thanks honey!
Yeah, that guy in the middle there looks like he missed a few buttons when he put on his skin suit.
America, this is why we can't have nice things.
I think maybe Richard Adams, the Guardian blogger, is getting a bit punchy:
11.03pm: Hey Frank Luntz has got a new wig. It looks good.
10.58pm: Is it possible to have too many debates? It feels like each of their candidates has been asked the same questions over and over again.
Bret Baier, the Fox News moderator, mentions that this was his fifth debate. Bret, that's nothing
Heh, I'm a little behind you guys because I pause it to rant sometimes.
Just saw the bit with the Super PAC "we don't believe in it" bullshit. My favourite quote is from Mint Ramley –
I haven't spoken to my SuperPAC for months
My SuperPAC. Possessive.
Newt said something similar that seemed to implicate him in having communicated with his superPAC. I was kind of shocked the mods didn't pick up on it.
I just get the feeling that all too often, Scotty has looked down his nose and seen another man's pubic hair. Not that there's anything wrong with that…
On MSNBC, Gene Robinson accuses debate audience of wanting to lynch Juan Williams for attacking Gingrinch dog whistle.
Oh, I wish I was watching that station.
Isn't MSNBC on replay mode for the next 6 hours?
Ed is on with a panel, now talking with the president of United Steel Workers Local 7898 at Georgetown Steel, James Sanderson. Nice segment. Debunks Mitt job creator meme, sez they just stripped the company, left it limping along (2 bankruptcies) with much smaller labor force…
That's not the Ed Show replay?
The first half was debate reax, now showing a replay of earlier program. Wisc recount and now Penn public school scandal due to fuckwit governor.
So true, I actually felt afraid for Juan. I snarked earlier in this thread that he was being unusually uppity but in a deferential way. But in reality, I certainly couldn't blame him for being afraid to really come down on any of the candidates.
Plus it was MLK Day. That always gets the rabble all riled up in the first place. Then, the audacity of Faux having a Nigro-type person as moderator? He's probably lucky he got out alive. Semi-serious on that.
ha! gene robinson and rowan williams are the only reason i have even the most tentative connection to religion.
MSNBC: Cristal Ball – racism on display. Flanders – no longer dog whistles, now wolves baying… Perry incites new civil war. Gene sez they narrowed the "we." I ordered a matching cummerbund and bow tie in bright yellow with narrow red stripes from a Charleston vendor a couple of years ago. South Carolina may be a racist hellhole, but they have haberdashers of overstated elegance.
Watching the live recap on Mr. Ed's show, on MSNBC. It's unbearably vile – even worse than my imagination – and I have a highly developed imagination.
Really beginning to reconsider this whole "Union" concept.
Does anyone else feel that if Mittens thought that " Forced Child Cannibalism" would get thundering applause lines and votes that he'd be up on stage coming up with a 5 Point Plan for Confiscation & Consumption of poor folks kids?
Wait, is that forcing people to eat children, or forcing children to engage in cannibalism? Because if he said that latter one, it would sound like he was attacking Catholics.
A modest proposal, indeed!
Well, it is a portrait of a lot of dicks, so… yes?
This whole country is turning into one gigantic Milgram Experiment.
I'm going to bed now, to have horrible dreams, wake up too early and try not to be Surly.
Nitey Nite.
Ed now replaying Wisc recount segment from earlier program. Time to stop typing… But one final word… Don't miss Andrew Sullivan's terrific Newsweek cover story on Obama's Long Game, link on the Daily Dish. If it goes viral it will give O the Big Mo. 'Night, All.
thanks. i needed that.
Here's him talking about it with Chris Matthews. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/#46016860
'Night. I know, I know, I'm late to the party.
Lots of good things are going on up here in the Great Lakes. Michigan is very close to also turning in the needed signatures to put up its wildly unpopular "Emergency Manager Law" for repeal, and Occupy organizeds and others turned out over 1,000 people to protest the law at Snyders private residence in suburban Ann Arbor, which was quite a feat considering its a gated community on a semi-rural two-lane road, so the logistics were crazy.
Wow! Good to hear. You stay safe through it all, young man, and report back from the frontlines. OOh-wee, we're gonna be a partyin' when the Revolution comes!
A little OT, but Paul Krugman's pretty good today:
Yet if King could see America now, I believe that he would be disappointed, and feel that his work was nowhere near done. He dreamed of a nation in which his children “will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” But what we actually became is a nation that judges people not by the color of their skin — or at least not as much as in the past — but by the size of their paychecks. And in America, more than in most other wealthy nations, the size of your paycheck is strongly correlated with the size of your father’s paycheck.
Goodbye Jim Crow, hello class system.
I don't want to alarm everybody, but Wonkette seems to be covered in Nuclear Aftershocks. Be very careful if you don't want to get radiation poisoning (or, if Stan Lee was right, superpowers).
Something is weird here. Many (?most) of the posts say they are one hour old, although I know some of them date back to the beginning of the debate almost 2.5 hours ago, and some are younger.
Maybe that's why Ken didn't liveblog the debate tonight – he was too busy turning Japanese.
I turned Japanese a few times today, it's not so bad. Really quite enjoyable.
Turning Japanese is a hell of a drug!
When I post really weird stuff on Facebook or send it to friends/coworkers via e-mail, their first question is always, "How did you FIND that thing?" I'm not even going to ask you.
I saw that and I thought it was this.
Well I turned Japanese after thinking about you turning Japanese earlier today, myself.
Whoa!
Thought that was preview of the Ricky and the Mrs. Santorum sex tape.
all i know is i disappeared into a chasm like the satan pit in dr who when i went to the bottom of the comments.
i do not mean that as a metaphor.
I was thinking Rocket J. Squirrel, but Granny would be cool, too.
For anyone still awake, the Not Stephen Colbert's Super Pac has a new campaign ad which urges South Carolinians to vote for Herman Cain.
Alright, which one of you plastic-wrapped assholes took my fucking duct tape?
Ah, I said that because I thought I remembered her as being from Nebraska. But I screwed that one up. It was Oklahoma. Dammit. Tabarnak.—
Maybe a nice root vegetable?
Turnip? 'Neaps grow EVAHwhere, I'll have ye know.
Ugh, really? She's originally from Oklahoma? How'd she get so damn smart and reasonable?
/a couple of my good friends are from OK, I'm not even lying
Did someone say… TURNIP??
Yep, low and slow…
Don't be silly–Wonkette doesn't allow comments.
Not at first. It's the *lifetime* warranties ya gotta worry about.
Man, that is one cute frog, C_R_Eature.
Aren't they? I actually had one as a Pup. They puff themselves up with air when handled and make weird screeching noises. Other than that, it's basically like having a pet rock that eats crickets and walks around on occasion.
Frog Trivia: 1.) It's actually a Toad. 2.) Played a small but significant role in the Cable TV series Dead like Me.
He types it in that Baahstahn accent, yaknow.
Yeah, there's no exact analog here. Possibly because childrens cartoons are supposed to entertain them and make them happy, not to confuse them & make them run away.
Those exact same doods. Just lookit, they're even being oppressed by OTHER CHRISCHYUNS!
We had a toad, as children. It lived under the refrigerator. It was actually a pet of the cats. They took care of it, insisting we let it out once a day to hop around outside and then carefully shepherding it back inside. Vurry strange. But it was all plain and brown and about the size of one's palm, with the most beautiful golden eyes.
Your toad is magnificently coloured and patterned.
Ok, thanks.
Mmmm, I think it was even earlier than that. When I was still in my "youthful indiscretion" period, I was a Republican (voted for Nixon in 72 and Ford in 76), but I re-registered Independent in 1980 because I concluded that when Reagan got nominated was when the Republican Party was finally taken over by stupid people.
In 2000, the party was taken over by crazy people.
Thanks for reminding me why I never watch SNL any more.
Oh, man, that sounds awful. My poor virtual spouse. WTH, I think I'll keep ya. I'm just glad you have the coverage. So that's what all the pain meds are for. (Hugs teh Biff)
Oh, it's just some harmless play acting.
I have a pretty high pain threshold, so if/when I take 1/2 a Lortab, something really hurts. I'm getting along OK.
I'm not a violent man. But when some Youtube idiot uploads what is arguably the best animated cartoon ever made and then fucks up the title, part of me wants to heave said idiot off a ridiculously precarious cliff and into a deep canyon without so much as a defective ACME Lady's Parasol for assistance.
Thanks. Now I've got yet ANOTHER way to waste HOURS and HOURS.
That's probably partly my fault. Since the internet is free from "gatekeepers" and "quality control standards", it is up to us, the informed users, to be vigilante re: idiots from youtube debasing the Classics. Maybe, with a little more effort, I could have found an alternate version free of rookie mistakes.
Also, upon further reflection, I should have said "HAIR and magic undies"; that would have been the superior formulation. Let's just pretend that I did, going forward.
I'm still gonna hug ya, Biff, so lie back and enjoy it.
It occurred to me that maybe the idiocy was an attempt to avoid The Guardians of Copyright, but I'm really just leaning toward the Youtuber being sloppy and such.
Now, I'm off to go proofreed some handmade sign's in the "local" grocery.
Also: Hair and magic undies for the win–but not a flaw: You go to a liveblog with the gags you have, not the gags you might hope you had.
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