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U.S. Soldiers Changing Hearts & Minds By Urinating On Dead Muslims

Everybody supporting the troops a lot? Here they are “finishing the job,” with the primary job being “killing Muslims everywhere” and the finish being “ritually urinating on the bloodied bodies.” Afghanistan, the war that keeps on giving!

These soldiers are apparently part of a Marine assassination/sniper unit, but it’s okay because they are “a small group of U.S. individuals.” Look, it’s only four Marines in uniform pissing on the corpses of the people they just killed. Simmer down! It’s not like there are five U.S. Marines pictured in this particular video doing what is surely a normal, everyday American thing of urinating on dead victims of our Imperial Wars.

Let’s see, any other important excuses from the U.S. occupation army in Kabul? Yes, this: The Marines in the video “apparently are no longer serving in Afghanistan.”

So, hooray! They’re probably back in the United States shooting national park rangers and murder-suiciding their entire families — just normal American stuff, for freedom.

The next terrorism attack is going to be spectacular, isn’t it? Might want to avoid cities or towns or being American for the next couple of decades. [CNN/Guardian]

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    1. BarryOPotter

      Better give them plenty of fluids beforehand because there are a lot~ Wait. Oh shit. My bad…

      1. GregComlish

        I just say things like:

        "Your typical American is an obese, gullible imbecile. They are venomous people with the same ethics as their corporate overlords with whom they actively collaborate. Their bigotry is easily manipulated by corporate media. They don't give two shits about their own lives being thrown in the gutter as long as they get their chance to step on somebody even farther below them. They uphold sadistic beauty standards, even though they collectively are the most physically repulsive people on earth. They hate themselves for being ugly, stupid, shallow failures, but embrace religious fundamentalism to externalize that hatred onto everybody else. They are cowards who listen to right-wing radio so they can vicariously bully all the people they are too chickenshit to confront in person. It is a nation of Sarah Palins. So fuck them. They can take their patriotism and shove it up their huge asses."

    1. Redhead

      last time I was overseas, everyone I encountered just assumed I was English or Irish because I didn't demand that everyone else speak English, didn't walk around with a fanny pack and socks with sandals, and didn't eat at McDonald's or Pizza Hut.

    2. foog

      On behalf of the rest of Upper Canuckistan, I'd like to thank these upstanding young soldiers for boosting our good name. It was looking dicey for a while, what with a conservative government, shitty foreign policy, shittier environmental policy, dirty oil pipelines, etc. Hell, we even lost our seat on the UN Security Council. But all things being relative, this can only make us look good. Shame it makes me feel worse about being human though.

    3. doloras

      Only liberal homo dhimmis who hate America travel overseas. What's wrong with our own vacation spots?!?

  1. Katydid

    The next excuse will be that they were playing golden showers.

    You cannot send people to a hellish war and expect them not to go crazy. If they come out sane, that's the miracle.

      1. HELisforHEL

        Somewhere along the line, the thin frayed cord between duty and humanity was snapped. Sadly, this unapologetic, bullying jock mentality has always been part of the American fabric but I tend to think that (after a short retreat following Vietnam), the Reagan years and subsequent devotees of his have brought it back up to a slow boil and now in this landscape of 24/7 gratuitous violence in video games/movies/on the TeeVee/in fucking wars for no reason the damn pot has boiled over.
        Just disgusting.

      2. BigDumbRedDog

        I don't know. At some point I lost count of the number of young men I knew who went into either the army or the marines as pleasent and mild mannered human beings, only to come out as vulgar, testosteroney, Limbaugh spouting potential date rapists.

        1. PalinzADummy

          Or crazy, shaking wrecks of humanity. Someone I knew who we all thought was finally going to make it back on the road to health drank himself to death quite deliberately last year, because he just could not live with the demons of VN any more. He was a laughing, happy Nature Boy when he went in; he came out an artist but a broken one.

    1. CommieLibunatic

      It's the congratulatory mouthfarts from the cheerleaders on Yahoo! and stuff that really gets to me. You'd think the comfort of the PC removed from the war zone would let people think more clearly.

      1. James Michael Curley

        I'm looking for a program which automatically deletes any comments section of any online news article or news site or whatever. It has gotten to the point that there is a bunch of right wing zealots who rush to bad mouth any news item they thing was written to insult their warped, self gratifying, anti Obama sensibilities. We have become a nation of whining bigots who have no apparent objective in life then waiting for the next opportunity to call someone names (as I just did!). F*ck me! The news story attached to this post still has me seething.

      1. Generation[redacted]

        Ten years ago, after killing bin Laden in Tora Bora where he was trapped by all those marines we had waiting in ships just offshore.

    1. CommieLibunatic

      By the Maker, Yahoo! is the worst. I guess I should've taken their name as a warning about their users.

      But yes, this kind of crap hastens the pace of my mass driver and space plane research/daydreaming.

  2. Clancy_Pants

    And I’m proud to be an American,
    where at least I know I’m free.
    And I wont forget the men who died,
    who gave that right to me.

    And I gladly stand up,
    next to you and defend her still today.
    ‘ Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
    God bless the USA.

    …..yadda yadda yadda

    1. OKthennext

      And I'm proud to be an American,
      where at least I know I'm free —
      to piss on a dead Taliban,
      at least I think that's he?

    1. Tundra Grifter


      Some years ago we were over at a friend's house for the Holidays and one of the boys peed into the Christmas tree.

      I'm sure to him it seemed like a good idea at the time.

  3. freakishlywrong

    The unequaled, awful Pam Geller approves. I wish I was kidding.

    “I love these Marines,” she said, adding, “Perhaps this is the infidel interpretation of the Islamic ritual of washing and preparing the body for burial.”
    Gawd, this awful place.

    1. poorgradstudent

      I look forward to the more "moderate" pundits at the National Review condemning what happened but simultaneously lambasting liberals for betraying the country by talking about it.

    2. elviouslyqueer

      I wouldn't piss on that frostbitten cunt if she was on fire. Although the idea of setting Pammy ablaze does have a certain appeal.

      1. __kth__

        She wouldn't want to bend her crack mirror, lest some of that precious powder slide off onto the carpet.

      1. doloras

        Archaeologists agree that respect for the corpses of the dead is the first sign of our ancestors becoming human. Therefore, Geller has just forfeited her humanity and must be reclassified as a chimpanzee of some description.

          1. Biel_ze_Bubba

            Chimps the world over are furiously banging on their typewriters in hopes of coming up with "Fuck you Pam Geller". Shouldn't take them too long.

    3. comrad_darkness

      I think we're seeing the next stage in mindless rightwing-atude. Previously with incidents like the dog killing and koran flushing, the Gellers of the world went full 5-year-old-child fantasy-world denialist until incontrovertible proof materialized. Then they had to back down and say, well, it doesn't matter anyway because that's why. Now they skip the denial of reality and go straight for the full metal sociopath. I guess that's an improvement in that it plays worse with those magical independents who get to screw us all over at the polls.

    4. PalinzADummy

      That woman really deserves the worst possible thing that could happen to her. I can't even speculate on what that might be, for fear of completely losing my humanity and spewing a level of venom that will make me ashamed.

  4. Baconzgood

    I was really really hoping that the next Wonkette posting would be about James O’Keefe going to jail for voter fraud……*sigh*.

  5. FakaktaSouth

    This is so confusing. I mean, I would rather be peed on than killed, but the outrage is worse for peeing, instead of the fact that we have assassination troops, and I DO like for people to be outraged on my behalf. Choices, choices. (doing both is way beyond)

    1. KenLayIsAlive

      Goddamn. What a great point. I guess when you live in a country as fucking twisted and immoral as ours, it is hard to even focus long enough to figure out what to be outraged about.

  6. DaRooster

    I am a bit worried about what these guys will do to their fellow citizens when they get back and are asked to "keep the peace" of the impending uprising heading America's way?
    This is not a good sign that they are very balanced and able to distinguish between decent and horrible morality any more.

      1. DaRooster

        Or the one in our small town that came home and in a short time ended up shooting his girlfriend and then himself.

    1. LionHeartSoyDog

      Check out the wheelbarrow.
      These dead people were guilty of being farmers in their own country.
      No civilian anywhere is safe from Murkan psychopaths.

  7. glamourdammerung

    After enough years of using nonsense excuses like "oh, they were just a few bad apples" instead of punishing troops that do horrible things, I am only surprised this sort of thing is not more common.

    1. kissawookiee

      My brother is a Ranger who served in both Afghanistan and Iraq. He was always short on specifics when talking about his experiences, but my sense is that this kind of episode is both common and on the tame end of the spectrum. Unfortunately. U-S-… aw fuck.

    2. PalinzADummy

      After at least seven years of lowering entrance standards to permit the recruiting of felons, it's a miracle the military hasn't staged a coup and begun slaughtering the citizenry for sport.

  8. ElPinche

    When we're not drinking beer from each others buttcracks, we're peeing on dead combatants. I'm not a turrist sympathizer, just wishing we can incorporate some dignity and leadership. Be better than those taliban fucks.
    BTW, FUCK WAR … and I use the word "war" loosely here.

    1. PalinzADummy

      Well, certainly not at *that* stage. But the issue is the sensitivities of their countrymen, no? As a rule, most people at that stage seldom mind what is done to them.

    2. Negropolis

      Ummm…excuse me, but, the fuck?! I honestly don't expect much from you to tell the truth, though.

  9. Baconzgood

    OK NEW RULE! every time Ken posts somthing there has to be a link to lol kitty pictures somewhere in the text. Thiz hertz teh Baconz starkz.

  10. KeepFnThatChicken

    "You want me to tape what? Okay. Hey! I got a bar! Upload… to… Face… book… done."

    on the lighter side, half of the marines in view took off their helmets before peeing.

  11. Pragmatist2

    True story: In college in Vermont it was a regular habit of intoxicated students to relieve themselves on the grave of Ethan Allen. Did it many times myself. Of course, he was actually under ground and had been for 200 years. Maybe that's the difference.

  12. Mumbletypeg

    Needz moar Kung Fu Hustle. The hero has a flashback to when a bunch of peers peed on him in front of the little girl he was defending.

    ..Oh right, he survived that outcome. Still my first time watching this film was with my 10-year-old nephew, & it reinforced for me — as I shifted uncomfortably during what was otherwise an extraordinarily fun and funny film — how much humiliation is represented by this foul act, whether the victim is alive to experience it or not.

  13. SayItWithWookies

    What's the essence of American exceptionalism? Being deadened to the humanity of others. That some people see this as a noble view is only evidence of how fucked up the times are.

  14. ttommyunger

    Serious leadership deficiency here. I don't know which was dumber, doing this (which accomplishes nothing good-battlewise- or consciously allowing it to be videoed.

    1. jus_wonderin

      I would wait in that line, no matter the length. I can't say I won't be doing my "gotta pee bad" dance.

    2. Beowoof

      I am sure it will be by reservation. And you could maybe make a tour out of it, start with Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Coulter, you know serve beer between stops to get every one ready.

    3. GOPCrusher

      I still intend, before I throw off this mortal coil, to make a trip to California where I will relieve my bladder on the grave of Ronald Wilson Reagan.

  15. Beowoof

    Well they are so used to being pissed on by Wall Street and republicans they probably thought it was a good thing to do. After all they have had to go out and fight to defend trickle down economics, which in reality is a golden shower for the 99%

  16. iburl

    Sorry, I don't see how pissing on a dead body is much worse or much different than what goes on every day there. I think the wanton murder is worse than the peeing.
    Funny how we don't get all that upset when our predator drones kill children.

  17. proudgrampa

    There should be no surprise that placing people in a dehumanizing environment dehumanizes them. I fear what will happen when these nutjob trained killers come back to the US.

    We are fucking doomed.

    1. KeepFnThatChicken

      They'll go back home to their friends and family, and probably be goddamn congratulated by local wingnuts. That's what's going to happen when they come home.

      1. PalinzADummy

        Sooner or later, they're gonna either blow their own brains out or have them blown out in the course of flipping their fucking lids publicly and with deadly consequences.

    2. An_Outhouse

      Slap the spouse around, get a job as a rent a cop, and beat the shit out rightard's kids when said kids even think about challenging any authority.

    1. GOPCrusher

      We can't let other countries dictate to us whether or not it's right for our boys to urinate on the freshly killed enemy.

    1. weejee

      That usually comes between when you hear the whump as the first mortar leaves the tube and the ka-boom when it hits. If you don't hear the ka-boom, you really don't care anymore.

  18. Oblios_Cap

    They're just washing off the Mooslim with some "Jebus water".

    Ladies and Gents, America's Best & Brightest!™

  19. Guppy

    "Meanwhile, the Taliban tentatively agreed in recent weeks to open an office in Qatar's capital city of Doha"

    An "office?" What's their voicemail greeting like?

      1. Guppy

        "Thank you for calling the Taliban! All of our mujahideen are stoning other heretics at the moment, but your call is important to us! Please stay on the line!"

        1. jus_wonderin

          "Thank you for calling the Taliban. If you'd like "Death to America", press 1. If you'd like "Death to America", press 2. If you'd like "Death to America", press 3. If you'd like to hear this menu again, press 4."

        2. Guppy

          If you'd like to report an unescorted woman in public, please press 1.
          If your neighbor is Shi'a or otherwise apostate, please press 2.
          If you are calling from the Pakistani ISI, please press 3.

  20. BaldarTFlagass

    I love the smell of urine in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for 12 hours. When it was all over, we walked up and pissed all over them. The smell, you know that uric acid smell, the whole hill. Smelled like… victory. Someday this war's gonna end…

  21. sarah_connor

    The fact that there is a youtube video of this…. makes me wonder what the eff else is going on… <shudders>

    At least we probably have an investigation to look forward to now! USA!

  22. BornInATrailer

    I swear there seems to be more outrage over this than the soldiers that murdered civilians for fun or even the soldier chucking the puppy.

    1. GOPCrusher

      Maybe the outrage is just cumulative? People are just finally getting fed up with our troops acting like animals.

    2. PalinzADummy

      Perhaps, at least in part, much of the outrage is coming from the same RWNJs who saw nothing wrong with Abu Ghraib, but feel compelled to express the (deserved) outrage now that it's a club to beat the Democratic President with?

  23. Indiepalin

    Most of the commentors here would have a different reaction if the video showed U.S. Marines urinating on the Palin family.

  24. BaldarTFlagass

    To be fair, those jarheads all watched the first episode of "Shogun" back at camp the night before.

  25. MissTaken

    “a small group of U.S. individuals.”

    It was 'a small group of Muslim individuals" that did 9/11 and yet we still felt the need to bomb them all back to the stone age.

  26. spends2much

    When a small group of Murricans do something abhorrent, they in no way represent the country as a large group. Whereas, when one Brown Person does something sinister, all others agree with that action.
    There's US Foreign Policy in as few words as possible.

  27. James Michael Curley

    The recollection of seeing stupid, US Army trained shits doing this and far worse in Viet Nam 44 years ago goes along way to absolving me of the free Trazodone it took the VA forty years to finally start dispensing.

    1. Steverino247

      These were Marines, but the Army's done some stupid shit over there, too. Recall the "kill team" that took photos of their dead.

  28. Tundra Grifter

    T-bagging wasn't enough?

    At least they weren't military contractors drinking vodka shots out of each others' butts.

  29. HELisforHEL

    Yeah, I think this shit happens more than we would like to know, but not every soldier is so fucking stupid as to document their inhumane behavior.

      1. Negropolis

        Well, there is being a "goodwill ambassador" and then there is "pissing on corpses." You'd hope that there was enough intelligence and empathy inherent in a human to discourage them from the latter. You don't need to be taught that urinating on the dead is neither morally acceptable nor a good way to portray your employer.

  30. James Michael Curley

    Before I leave this thread to find out if anything else is happening in the world –


  31. Nesnora

    A fine example of war puppetry, in action. Monsters that direct man in his deeds will always mirror the monster controlling the strings.

    Giant metaphor is giant.

  32. donner_froh

    Take a bunch of young men, indoctrinate to hate, train them to kill, send them halfway around the world and surround them with the very people they have been taught to despise and them get all shocked when they do what they have been taught.

    Then get shocked that they would act in that way.

    What do you expect John McCain and all the others professional viewers with alarm?

  33. bitchincamaro2

    Had they been Blackwater thugs, they might have taken a dump on them and sent the State Department the bill for extra services.

  34. pdiddycornchips

    How do we know these brave Marines weren't trying to revive these poor unfortunates? Has at least one of them come with that excuse yet?

  35. comrad_darkness

    Let me put on my Brand Consulting hat here which says: Marines, no better than junkyard dogs. Dipshits doing an enormous disservice to those serving with honor.

  36. Sheesko

    Isn't it strange that everybody is horrified by these Marines' weefest while shrugging off their having actually KILLED the guys. Insult to injury, of course, but really….

  37. Negropolis

    This is literally one of the worst things that you could imagine happening, and it actually happened. Can you even imagine if Afghanis had done this? But, we're the "good guys", right? The ones with the moral highground, right? We're the "civilized" nation, right?

    Honestly, game over. Get our people home, and jail the sociopaths that need to be jailed. Just fucking STOP is, already. I'm ill.

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