• May 26, 2012
THE KIDS

January 10, 2012

Republicans Probably Not an Asset to Debt-Ridden New Hampshire Grads

by Liz Colville  

sing it sister

Spying the young people hanging out chez Paul, Huntsman and even Romney, Gingrich and formerly Santorum in New Hampshire, you would think that they were slightly revved up about 2012. But New Hampshire’s young people also happen to have the most student debt, on average, of all the states. Many of these young folk are likely living at home, don’t have jobs, and identify with the Occupy movement, if they’re not actually participating in it. What, for this set of New Hampshire residents, might be the advantages of electing a Newt or a Mitt 9000? Since these guys could set up a veritable trust fund for America using their own earnings, could that mean they’ll use their powerful potential positions to use money that doesn’t belong to them (but to us) to make things easier for Our Future?!?! Read on for the surprising answer!

Nooooooooooooooope it does not. In fact, a common Republican argument this time around, made by Santorum, Gingrich, Paul and Perry, is that:

low-interest and subsidized federal loans are driving up the cost of college by allowing colleges to charge more because students have greater access to money to pay tuition and other expenses. Without these loans, they argue, colleges would be forced to cut costs.

Higher-ed peeps say that actually:

the cost of public college has skyrocketed in recent years because state legislatures have funded a smaller portion of university budgets as resources have been moved to health care and other priorities.

Financial aid may be a part of the equation, but so, apparently, is the fact that college enrollment has grown in the past couple of decades. Colleges have not been able to respond efficiently to the growth, leading to higher administrative costs.

President Obama, despite certain unemployment-rate-y evidence to the contrary, is still Your Friend when it comes to student debt: he launched a student loan forgiveness plan back in October 2011, which, by the way, Gingrich has called a “Ponzi scheme.”

Huntsman and Romney have not addressed this issue as much as the other candidates; they’ve both said vague things about strengthening the economy. In all likelihood all these rich white boys (except Santo, who opposes college because it’s for THE ELITE) would probably advise you, college graduate with no job, to sit tight in your childhood bedroom and wait for your local coffee joint Javapalooza to call, because you’re still better off in this job “market” with a college degree than without one, and your mom can’t wait to turn your bedroom into a sculpture studio, so appreciate the next decade in your lumpy twin bed while you have the chance. [The Ticket via Think Progress]

{ 174 comments }

Barb January 10, 2012 at 5:15 pm

….Gingrich has called a “Ponzi scheme.”

I thought Newt only knew about Poontang schemes.
I'm not going to be too surprised with his VEEP choice. It's his choice of FLOTUS that has the Vegas lines abuzz.

Chillwillard January 10, 2012 at 5:15 pm

"Your mom goes to college!"

–Rick Santorum

littlebigdaddy January 10, 2012 at 5:16 pm

They need to go to auto mechanic school not fancy liberal colleges!

mavenmaven January 10, 2012 at 5:16 pm

Don't worry, soon the Repubs will demand legislation preventing anyone holding a college loan from voting.

Dashboard Buddha January 10, 2012 at 5:42 pm

You laugh…but I can see just seem them trying to do that.

Chillwillard January 10, 2012 at 5:52 pm

I can see Texas defunding all Liberal Arts programs in public universities.

Loaded_Pants January 10, 2012 at 5:57 pm

They haven't already?

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 5:59 pm

Tell the truth: that really wouldn't surprise you.

Lazy Media January 10, 2012 at 6:02 pm

Oh, you'll be able to vote. Just as soon as you pee in this cup.

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 6:45 pm

And answer these 47 questions, and pay this fee.

Negropolis January 11, 2012 at 12:14 am

….and bring your birth certificate, and photo ID, and passport, and six months worth of financial statements, and your kindergarten diploma and baptismal records.

Come here a minute January 10, 2012 at 5:17 pm

Dude, legal pot! Enough said.

smokefillednewyear January 10, 2012 at 5:18 pm

Without subsidized federal loans, college would be free!

SorosBot January 10, 2012 at 5:18 pm

As a pervy older guy who makes pretty good money, I like having more unemployed desperate debt-ridden nubile recent college grads out there.

Geminisunmars January 10, 2012 at 5:36 pm

I lost your email address. Could you send it again, please?

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 6:00 pm

I do love you, you little perv.

Geminisunmars January 10, 2012 at 6:13 pm

And me, you.

MissTaken January 10, 2012 at 5:42 pm

This is why gainfully employed single women in the mid-thirties can't get a date. And yes, I speak from experience.

SorosBot January 10, 2012 at 5:45 pm

Well there are also unemployed desperate debt-ridden strapping young buck recent college grads for gainfully employed single women in their mid-30s.

Generation[redacted] January 10, 2012 at 6:50 pm

I see the potential for a new dating site!

Chet Kincaid January 10, 2012 at 6:03 pm

And then the few serviceable gentlemen callers always get, uhm, "lost on the mountain," as you mentioned yesterday? So much for California Free Love!

emmelemm January 10, 2012 at 6:27 pm

I feel your pain.

SorosBot January 10, 2012 at 6:34 pm

As a guy in his mid-30s who actually can't get a date, I sympathize. Unless you happen to be one of the women I've met and seemed to hit it off with, gave me your number and then never answered or returned my call; then I don't.

Isyaignert January 11, 2012 at 1:51 am

Which is it Sorosbot – are you a "pervy older guy" or a "mid-30s dateless dude? I do like you however you roll.

imissopus January 10, 2012 at 6:54 pm

In fairness to us guys in our mid-thirties, we tend to be giant dicks.

Gainsbourg69 January 10, 2012 at 7:49 pm

I'm in my mid thirties and I prefer gainfully employed women my age. My biggest competition are the younger guys who aren't going out with the women being scooped up by corporate raiders like Soros.

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 6:00 pm

Uh … how old ARE you, dood?

SorosBot January 10, 2012 at 6:17 pm

35. I'm also just joking about the going after recent college grads thing.

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 6:21 pm

Spring chicken. I'll see if the niece is available for sexay fun taim.

glamourdammerung January 10, 2012 at 7:04 pm

Soros is involved in the "Bang Bus" too?!?!?

MaxNeanderthal January 10, 2012 at 5:19 pm

"GOP does not give shit about student debt". Meanwhile, in other news, the pope shits in the wood, all bears convert to catholicism.

Schmannnity January 10, 2012 at 5:21 pm

Dartmouth is expensive

One_who_wanders January 10, 2012 at 5:31 pm

Hell, UNH is expensive. For a public in-state.

thebeatgoeson January 10, 2012 at 11:04 pm

I can attest to that! Just finished the last payment for my daughter – about $36,000 per year for out of staters. Her major is musical theatre, minor is sociology. I'm sure she'll get a lucrative position at the local Dunkin' Donuts when she graduates…

Isyaignert January 11, 2012 at 1:53 am

Best o' luck with that the beatgoeson. No education is ever wasted.

jus_wonderin January 10, 2012 at 5:21 pm

Tit, is followed by Tat.

Gratuitous World January 10, 2012 at 5:21 pm

it's cool. Sucking Cock for Rent was my major.

Chillwillard January 10, 2012 at 5:42 pm

History, then?

elviouslyqueer January 10, 2012 at 5:53 pm

Oh please, do you NOT recognize Marketing and Business Administration when you see it?

Chillwillard January 10, 2012 at 6:15 pm

I wish somebody would've told me that back in college…

Numbat_Dundee January 10, 2012 at 6:13 pm

I teach history at a uni. And all this time you tell me I've been marking badly written essays when I could instead have just been undoing my zipper and rating on performance!

Geminisunmars January 10, 2012 at 6:19 pm

You might want to have a chat with your co-history professor, Mr Gingrich. He will give you pointers.

Chillwillard January 10, 2012 at 6:30 pm

But remember: Newt failed to land a job as a permanent Professor, that's why he went into politics (Either that or he wasn't getting enough BJ's).

user-of-owls January 10, 2012 at 7:04 pm

Well, eww.

Do. Not. Want. "Pointers" from that bloviating hate bubble!

C_R_Eature January 10, 2012 at 7:30 pm

Hey, Gratuitous! It's Chris Christie on Line 1!

stopthemovie January 10, 2012 at 5:22 pm

The world needs ditchdiggers too son.

Chet Kincaid January 10, 2012 at 5:40 pm

No, it doesn't. The unemployed will dig ditches for free.

GunToting[Redacted] January 10, 2012 at 6:32 pm

Ah, the new South Carolina Internship program. Do you think we'll have to supply our own jumpsuits and ankle chains?

Negropolis January 11, 2012 at 12:18 am

Yes, their own.

DerrickWildcat January 10, 2012 at 5:23 pm

This would be good here too.
It is really hard to get a job right now. There is a commercial on TV where this lady has some good ideas on how you can get a job. She knows a way for you to go to a special school that can teach you somethings that will make people hire you. The lady in the commercial got a job at a restaurant that only serves ketchup and mustard.
Here is the movie that teaches you how.
I hope it is some help to some of you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYS5NtRXlZQ

iburl January 10, 2012 at 5:27 pm

banhammer anyone?

DerrickWildcat January 10, 2012 at 5:28 pm

Really?

smokefillednewyear January 10, 2012 at 5:42 pm

Is there any way that song can be remixed with Rebecca Black's 'Friday'?

DerrickWildcat January 10, 2012 at 5:46 pm

ah, ok. I also posted this on the last thread. But this one came up a minute later. So I posted it on this one. I understand your point, so I deleted it from the last thread. I won't do it anymore.

smokefillednewyear January 10, 2012 at 5:51 pm

banhammer– (he/she is joking, right? 'cause the song is so bad?)

CapnFatback January 10, 2012 at 5:58 pm

I think it should be your standing comment for every thread in 2012. Find a way to work it into every post about Herman Cain's dating service for serial ass grabbers and Sarah Palin's August candidacy announcement!

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 6:02 pm

I don't think so, Derrick. (Hugs Derrick)

iburl January 10, 2012 at 10:13 pm

Sorry, When I see a OT form-letter post that looks like it was written by a Nigerian Marketing dropout posted twice in a row, I assume it's spam.

BigDumbRedDog January 10, 2012 at 5:38 pm

I'm downfisting your banhammer.

SorosBot January 10, 2012 at 5:39 pm

What?

CapnFatback January 10, 2012 at 5:46 pm

SOMEbody needs to find a for-profit college that offers Irony 101.

Wildcat, got any leads?

emmelemm January 10, 2012 at 6:29 pm

No, we'd miss his pictures of Birds N'Shit. He takes really nice pictures of birds.

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 6:48 pm

"N Shit.

Dashboard Buddha January 10, 2012 at 5:40 pm

Gods…I used to teach at risk teens and commercials like that are aimed straight at them.

smokefillednewyear January 10, 2012 at 5:45 pm

and then they take the 'aptitude test' and it tells them to go back to high school..

Dudleydidwrong January 10, 2012 at 7:00 pm

I understand the waitress who serves only mustard and ketchup, but what's with the white dildo with the red ribbon? Must have been the Tuesday special…

CapnFatback January 10, 2012 at 5:24 pm

except Santo, who opposes college because it’s for THE ELITE)

Whom are you kidding, Liz? Compared to Santorum, clown college is elite.

bravo_sierra January 10, 2012 at 5:24 pm

Actually, the unemployment rate for college graduates was 4.3% nationally in September and has likely gone down slightly since then.

Not that student loan forgiveness isn't a great idea – it basically gives young, employed, professionals hundreds of dollars a month back to spend as they please, providing a nice boost to the economy.

CapnFatback January 10, 2012 at 5:30 pm

Check that socialism at the student union, pal! It's the Granite State, not the Grant State!

SorosBot January 10, 2012 at 5:30 pm

The unemployment rate for college graduates in general is low compared to the rest of the population, but the unemployment rate for recent college graduates is ridiculously high. I know in law, what would normally be entry-level positions have going to recently laid-off lawyers with years of experience, and the recent law school grads have very little available – I have one friend who graduated law school in 2009 and is still working as a waitress today (she also manages the place at least).

MissTaken January 10, 2012 at 5:44 pm

Agreeing with Soros here. My company has several entry-level positions open but we won't even look at recent grads (or unemployed) resumes because we don't have to. It's shitty, but reality.

PsycWench January 10, 2012 at 6:05 pm

Not just young professionals. I've known colleagues to be paying back loans many years after graduating, money they would have spent on car repairs and a new couch and other signs of debauchery.

Isyaignert January 11, 2012 at 1:56 am

Too damn bad we don't pay for our citizens' college like the rest of the civilized world (along with health care for all). Jeezuz fuk this country is assbakwards! Wake up folks.

johnnyzhivago January 10, 2012 at 5:24 pm

Putting all college age people into the military seems like a good compromise – after a battle is over, they could use the expensive, government provided internet for their courses in fast food resturant management.

Then again, they should pay for that high speed internet access.

SorosBot January 10, 2012 at 5:31 pm

Will they be mandatory "volunteers", South Carolina-style?

HistoriCat January 10, 2012 at 5:49 pm

Now it's all coming together …

Guppy January 10, 2012 at 6:24 pm

Nah, the military likes making officers out of college grads. It's the kids who've had just enough high school to get past the ASVAB that are the ones taking the orders.

hollywooddood January 10, 2012 at 5:25 pm

Can't the college students work at the colleges sweeping up and cleaning toilets? It's a great way to earn some cash.

iburl January 10, 2012 at 5:27 pm

Now you want to PAY them? Sochialist!

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 6:05 pm

Newtie's already reserved those jobs for the children of the poor.

Generation[redacted] January 10, 2012 at 6:54 pm

You make more money selling your children for medical experiments.

user-of-owls January 10, 2012 at 7:05 pm

Hello, Mengele Medical Services, how may I direct your call?

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 7:18 pm

Oh, Most Awful of Owls!

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 7:21 pm

I've heard rumours for years of poor peasants on the border between India and Bangladesh being kidnapped and sold for their organs. I never know how much to believe, in these cases, especially since there are so many urban legends involving organ transplants. I hope you're kidding. You're kidding, right?

user-of-owls January 10, 2012 at 8:16 pm

There have been actual cases of gringos being attacked by mobs of Guatemalans for no more than smiling at a kid in the street due to rumors along those lines. It almost certainly doesn't happen, but the belief that it does can get you a good thrashing…or worse.

SorosBot January 10, 2012 at 8:24 pm

I believe he or she was making a reference to Monty Python and the Meaning of Life, so it's OK.

johnnyzhivago January 10, 2012 at 5:26 pm

Given that the only jobs in America's future are pawn shop counter clerks, swamp loggers and truck drivers, do we really need these expensive colleges anyway?

emmelemm January 10, 2012 at 5:32 pm

You forgot exterminators, and hoarder junk haulers.

Loaded_Pants January 10, 2012 at 6:14 pm

I hear that Hooveround has been hiring more lately.

SorosBot January 10, 2012 at 5:35 pm

There's plenty of jobs in the begging industry!

Geminisunmars January 10, 2012 at 6:21 pm

For $9.99, + S&H, I will send you a book on how to break into this lucrative industry.

Indiepalin January 10, 2012 at 5:26 pm

Seven years of college down the drain…

Blueb4sunrise January 10, 2012 at 5:27 pm

I have an interview tomorrow at Lipton as an Iced Tea Tester!!!

Chet Kincaid January 10, 2012 at 5:43 pm

Teabag Tester?

Blueb4sunrise January 10, 2012 at 5:51 pm

Ruh roh.

elviouslyqueer January 10, 2012 at 5:55 pm

Only because Marcus Bachmann suddenly said he wasn't available.

GunToting[Redacted] January 10, 2012 at 6:37 pm

I thought he had plenty of free time now.

meatlofer January 10, 2012 at 5:27 pm

The Proffs at South Carolina work for free ,right?

flamingpdog January 10, 2012 at 5:30 pm

Liz, you 'bout gave me a heart atttack when you posted "formerly Santorum" with a linkie. I thought maybe he had been squeezed out of the race today! Remember, sweetheart, a lot o' the bloggers here are teh oldz.

SayItWithWookies January 10, 2012 at 5:30 pm

Wait — these are the same Republicans who whined and complained when President Obama basically cut out the middleman in student loans by having the DOE administer them rather than banks — that he was instituting a government takeover of the loan industry, right?

Too bad that they've been trying to get rid of education grants for decades now, and are further from that goal than ever before — their brand of fuck-you generosity deserves no response more articulate than two minutes of farting noises.

Radiotherapy January 10, 2012 at 5:31 pm

Douchebaggery 101

BigDumbRedDog January 10, 2012 at 5:32 pm

Let's see how far that book learnin gets em in debtors prison.

SorosBot January 10, 2012 at 5:32 pm

Ah get born, keep warm
Short pants, romance, learn to dance
Get dressed, get blessed
Try to be a success
Please her, please him, buy gifts
Don’t steal, don’t lift
Twenty years of schoolin’
And they put you on the day shift

Chichikovovich January 10, 2012 at 7:22 pm

Don't forget:

"Join the army if you fail"

Wilcoxyz January 10, 2012 at 5:34 pm

On the stripper pole, kids. That's how folks pay for school now.

SorosBot January 10, 2012 at 5:35 pm

You mean she wasn't lying when she said she was just trying to pay her way through college?

HateMachine January 10, 2012 at 6:30 pm

Not only that, the ones who said they were paying their way through college even though they clearly hadn't been to a class in a decade weren't lying, either.

Dashboard Buddha January 10, 2012 at 5:36 pm

That or the military…saaaay…you don't think there's a connection, do you?

smokefillednewyear January 10, 2012 at 5:54 pm

It's great when parents give them a pole-ready name too, like Tawny or Jasmine.

Dudleydidwrong January 10, 2012 at 7:08 pm

Yeah, maybe. But payin' for that sex change operation is a bummer…

Callyson January 10, 2012 at 5:37 pm

First Social Security, now student loan forgiveness. What's the next Ponzi scheme going to be, according to the Reeps? The fitful, hopeful signs of an economic recovery, despite all Republican efforts against that accomplishment?

MissTaken January 10, 2012 at 5:57 pm

Jobs creation is a Ponzi scheme. You have to keep bringing in new ones to keep it going.

smokefillednewyear January 10, 2012 at 6:05 pm

Anything with Democratic support is a Ponzi scheme.

chascates January 10, 2012 at 5:39 pm

It's the for-profit diploma mills that the GOP loves. I know several people suckered into the Le Cordon Bleu franchise in Austin who owe about $42,000 in tuition but could only get $8 an hour jobs.

jus_wonderin January 10, 2012 at 5:50 pm

We have one of those in Dallas too.

smokefillednewyear January 10, 2012 at 6:13 pm

In the mid '90's I almost attended Scottsdale Culinary Institute (now AZ Culinary Institute) the very first year of their Le Cordon Bleu program. I was all set to get my chef's coat but decided against it at the very last moment. I'm glad I did.

GorzoTheMighty January 10, 2012 at 5:41 pm

Move to South Carolina they are hiring. Ah, well, volunteering actually.

Mumbletypeg January 10, 2012 at 5:41 pm

I take issue with Santorum distancing himself from the ELitists, indeed I recognized him as The Elite'l'est Angel last Saturday when he used the word "penumbra."

jus_wonderin January 10, 2012 at 5:46 pm

Isn't that a brand? Penum Bra?

Radiotherapy January 10, 2012 at 5:47 pm

Not only do non-elitists not know what "penumbra" means, they don't know what "Santorum" means.

weejee January 10, 2012 at 5:45 pm

except Santo, who opposes college

Former Cubbie zombie Ron Santo is dialing Guido's Gunz in Chicago at this very moment. Liz, did Ken show you where the Kevlar™ vests are kept?

chascates January 10, 2012 at 5:51 pm

@ realDonaldTrump : New Hampshire has a major decision to make today. Hopefully we won't have to hear any more Mandarin spoken in future debates.

pinkocommi January 10, 2012 at 5:52 pm

Imagine all the student loan debt aborted fetuses are avoiding.

fuflans January 10, 2012 at 5:54 pm

to be fair, financial aid does nothing to reduce the uncertainty plaguing america's job creators.

MissTaken January 10, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Radiotherapy January 10, 2012 at 6:11 pm

mmmmmmy bad. I'll ketchup.

elviouslyqueer January 10, 2012 at 6:01 pm

Hey Fecalfroth. College also makes you gay gay gay gay GAY!

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 6:53 pm

Well, I musta caught it off a terlet seat, then, 'cos I knew WAY before college.

MissTaken January 10, 2012 at 6:01 pm

We need to stop referring to it as "student loan debt", and instead call it "leveraged education". Then the GOP would be all for it.

MissTaken January 10, 2012 at 6:09 pm
mrblifil January 10, 2012 at 6:21 pm

At least he didn't contend that she cause the shooting by wearing something provocative.

smokefillednewyear January 10, 2012 at 6:28 pm

It takes a special kind of piece-of-shit to abandon all human compassion in favor of politics.

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 7:00 pm

That's not the guy's problem. He sounds like a not-very-nice person to begin with, but I think he's also losing his grip. He's angry, bitter, and full of hate, and blames Gifford's husband for the loss of his wife of 54 years. More sad than disgusting, I think.

Guppy January 10, 2012 at 6:29 pm

"He also said Giffords' husband should have had better security in place to protect his wife, knowing she was a target of death threats."

"And why wasn't she at home, in the kitchen, barefoot to begin with?"

The real question is why this guy wasn't packing to take down the shooter himself.

At any rate, it's Arizona. What were you expecting?

SorosBot January 10, 2012 at 6:30 pm

God what an asshole.

Geminisunmars January 10, 2012 at 6:31 pm

That is horrible sad.

emmelemm January 10, 2012 at 6:35 pm

Wingnut shithead is wingnutty.

(Yet somehow, it still surprises and hurts…)

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 6:58 pm

The guy went there to complain and got shot. He's old, bitter, sounds senile, plus he's lost his wife of 50+ years. His life can't be too good, either. Plus, if you look at the comments, he's getting his rear end kicked nine ways to Sunday. He's definitely not entirely compos mentis, since he thinks Giffords' husband, Mark Kelly, should have provided security for the event. (huh?)

C_R_Eature January 10, 2012 at 8:03 pm

Well, this guy clearly has been a dick for a long time and as a self-described "ultraconservative" who lives in Arizona and campaigned for Gifford's' opponent no doubt is a highly-propagandized Fox junkie and can't be expected to behave like a normal civilized person.
That said, this kind of loss will tear your soul, change your entire being. It's important to realize that, not only have you lost your love, companion and best friend but your entire life together has just been lost to an irretrievable past.
I think everyone reacts differently and unpredictably. Some are crushed, fall into sadness and despair, curl into themselves and give up the world. Some find a strength they never knew they had and rededicate themselves to life, community and happiness.
Some lose themselves to hatred and rage.
I feel sorrow for this man. his anger will kill him and make everyone and everything around him bleak.
He does have a choice, however. He doesn't have to be such an asshole, so I don't feel too sorry for him.

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 9:07 pm

I often wonder if we don't sometimes become trapped within a struggle between our own innate traits and our circumstances. I mean, who would be a lying scumbag, if they were offered that choice? Probably, nobody. But if you take a person like this, an embittered narrow-minded person who settled for the easy answer of having someone else resolve his moral dilemmas and his emotional needs, then what happens when something in their world changes? What happens if, say, they become disabled? Not completely crushed and reduced to a wheelchair, but perhaps PTSD or an organic injury that exacerbates their paranoia. An embittered, narrow-minded paranoiac would, it seems, be locked into that response, unable to change either themselves or their circumstances, don't you think?

C_R_Eature January 10, 2012 at 9:36 pm

Well, yes – I think that you are correct in that. Given his circumstances and sociology it's likely he's been put on the rails to the place he's in even since the shooting. It's also too easy to remotely diagnose and judge people these days. I think compassion is the only proper response, really. And now I'll just be quiet.

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 10:30 pm

No, don't be! I wasn't criticizing you. I've just been reading a lot of George Eliot lately, and she had a tendency to wrestle with gigantic moral issues of her day and … I have no idea where I was going with that.

ShaveTheWhales January 10, 2012 at 10:18 pm

"It was unclear why he thought Kelly should have been involved in security for an official event held for a member of Congress."

No, I think it's pretty fucking clear.

lochnessmonster January 10, 2012 at 6:16 pm

I'd like to ask ALL of the GOP candidates if THEIR children struggled to pay for college and how many still live at home because they don't have trust funds…

Pres.VerminSupreme January 10, 2012 at 6:33 pm

Oh, Wonkettes, please liveblog the NH primary results….

I am in Florida right now and the Mittens ads are just flooding the teevees. BELIEVE IN AMERICA, bitches, or get fired!

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 7:01 pm

I thought it was "or suck my dick." Isn't that what Chris Christie said?

C_R_Eature January 10, 2012 at 7:29 pm

As your Friendly Fellow Wonketeer, I advise you to watch this Election Night Special!

It will help. Trust me.

Pres.VerminSupreme January 10, 2012 at 8:33 pm

Indeed, we need a Very Silly Party or even a Monster Raving Loony Party (excluding the GOP).
http://www.omrlp.com/

C_R_Eature January 10, 2012 at 8:52 pm

I love this and I'm going to go and change my registration tomorrow.
If I'm not too drunk/ill/paralyzed.

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 9:14 pm

I don't know, Vermin. I mean I love your platform, but the GOP are such RavingLooneyMonsters, I'd be worried they'd sliter in somehow.

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 9:13 pm

Well! That was simply … insane. Thank you.

Gainsbourg69 January 10, 2012 at 7:53 pm

On what channel? I'm iin Miami and I haven't seen any.

Pres.VerminSupreme January 10, 2012 at 8:31 pm

I'm in Central Florida. They seem to be running 2-3 ads an hour during primetime. There is, however, no variety. How many times can Mittbot remind us that he Saved The (massively taxpayer-funded, btw, complete with socialist Light Rail) Olympics before it gets a old?

DahBoner January 10, 2012 at 6:51 pm

50K a year at a private New Hampshire college would buy a LOT of beer.

Which is more important, with regard to getting laid?

Pres.VerminSupreme January 10, 2012 at 8:55 pm

Dartmouth was the model for Faber College after all.

fuflans January 10, 2012 at 7:10 pm

Republicans Probably Not an Asset to Debt-Ridden New Hampshire Grads anyone.

/fixed.

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 9:15 pm

This version definitely more accurate.

user-of-owls January 10, 2012 at 7:14 pm

Well here in our fair state, we fund thousands of scholarships to come to our universities without even raising taxes? Wanna know what our secret is?

You see, we're a very poor state and part of the reason we're poor is lack of college education. So, we decided to address the situation by increasing access to higher education through scholarships. That are funded by a lottery. That bleed the poorest among us dry. Which means even with a scholarship, they can't afford college. Which means we remain under-educated. Which makes us poor.

Magical, isn't it?

ShaveTheWhales January 10, 2012 at 10:26 pm

Wait. What?

user-of-owls January 10, 2012 at 11:00 pm

Yes.

Catabite January 10, 2012 at 11:10 pm

Actually, Florida has a scheme like that, too- "Bright Futures". I know a lot of people who went to college on Bright Futures scholarship, and then got the hell out of dodge.

Bluestatelibel January 10, 2012 at 7:19 pm

OT, but I just saw Newt on CNN, talking about how he has no issue with companies that create actual products and value, but he does have a problem with corporate looters like Mitt's Bain. Next thing you'll know, he'll be joining OWS…

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 9:16 pm

It's already being Tweeted (no doubt in jest) that he's looking for the OWS endorsement.

ttommyunger January 10, 2012 at 7:26 pm

"Republicans Probably Not an Asset to Debt-Ridden New Hampshire Grads." …PROBABLY?

Gainsbourg69 January 10, 2012 at 8:38 pm

Needs moar Camila Vallejos.

owhatever January 10, 2012 at 11:52 pm

Live Free and Die is now Pay Your Student Loans, then Die.

Negropolis January 11, 2012 at 12:12 am

low-interest and subsidized federal loans are driving up the cost of college by allowing colleges to charge more because students have greater access to money to pay tuition and other expenses. Without these loans, they argue, colleges would be forced to cut costs.

This shit these guys will say, and say while arguing for corporate tax cuts, because, well, that's different, right? This kind of incoherent bullshit absolutely demands that you suspend your disbelief at their audacity and hypocrisy.

Negropolis January 11, 2012 at 12:26 am

Y'all gotta go to Herman Cain if you're looking for a job. Well, you want a job, don't you?

Tommy1733 January 11, 2012 at 12:33 pm

Not a big deal if it gets too expensive – there's always "home-college".

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 8:52 pm

Yikes! I shall remain dour and brown if I ever pass through that land.

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 8:55 pm

Thank you. I do have an overactive imagination, and it does tend to gravitate to upbeat little topics, like torture, murder, psychological abnormalities, and the like.

C_R_Eature January 10, 2012 at 10:42 pm

You do raise good, insightful points and I am going to look up George Eliot. Thanks.
Thing is, this topic has gotten too close to the bone for me & no one here really needs to go down that alleyway, I think.
Nighty night!

PalinzADummy January 10, 2012 at 11:00 pm

Ah! OK. As long as you're not going away hurt, miffed, or misunderstood, everything's good. Pleasant dreams, C_R_Eature.

C_R_Eature January 10, 2012 at 11:05 pm

No worries! thanks

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