• May 26, 2012

Obama Won’t Veto Law That Turns Military Into ‘Domestic Police Force’

by Wonkette Jr.  

Coming soon to a White House near you!Hooray, the White House now says that President Obama won’t veto the National Defense Authorization Act. It flew through the House today and should pass the Senate shortly. Along with the usual gazillion dollars for the Pentagon to buy death machines from military contractors via lobbyists/former members of Congress, the NDAA will also allow the military to seize U.S. citizens on U.S. soil and throw them in Gitmo forever. Remember how the terror prison at Guantanamo Bay was originally filled, after 9/11? And remember how a fraction of the prisoners held and tortured there for years had anything to do with Al Qaeda, because they were just random goat herders or whatever, picked up because the military and the CIA paid a per-head bounty on “terrorists”? Yeah well same thing now, but in the United States!

Everybody excited about the 2012 elections, and football? From AP via the Huffington Post:

WASHINGTON — The White House on Wednesday abandoned its threat that President Barack Obama would veto a defense bill over provisions on how to handle suspected terrorists as Congress raced to finish the legislation. Press secretary Jay Carney said last-minute changes that Obama and his national security team sought produced legislation that “does not challenge the president’s ability to collect intelligence, incapacitate dangerous terrorists and protect the American people.”

Based on the modifications, “the president’s senior advisers will not recommend a veto,” the White House said.

Don’t worry! Once all the Internet sites that complain about this are shut off by the same U.S. government, you won’t even know what’s going on until your cousin or neighbor or child gets hauled off in the night by black-suited terror soldiers. Besides, the kid/neighbor/cousin was probably guilty of reading Orwell or something similar, like “looking at Arab porn” or “thinking about joining #OWS.” [HuffPo/AP]

{ 188 comments }

sbj1964 December 14, 2011 at 6:02 pm

What happened to the Bill of Rights ?Every American should be afraid.All the government needs to arrest you,and hold you without trial or even charging you; is to consider you a threat.That's chilling.

WunkRocker December 15, 2011 at 8:16 am

Thanks Hopey. You can count on me not voting for the first time since 1984. You are sucking more butt than Bill Clinton in his 2nd term. Why not join the Klan or maybe make it law that we all have to listen to Nickelback 24/7. Fuck you. Seriously. Also.

An_Outhouse December 15, 2011 at 9:01 am

Don't worry, nobody will know when you've been snatched. You just disappear. No messy trials and no expensive defence lawyer bills. Suck on that, defence lawyers.

WunkRocker December 15, 2011 at 10:40 am

No they'll work in some clause where the get a % of your hobo beans.

HarryButtle December 15, 2011 at 3:38 pm

And today is Bill of Rights Day!

Happy birthday, Bill of Rights…we got you this nice new police state!

Callyson December 14, 2011 at 6:02 pm

Send the terrorists on Wall Street to Gitmo and we' re good.

GuanoFaucet December 14, 2011 at 6:05 pm

Today, we are all potential terrorists.

RadioYKWE December 14, 2011 at 7:50 pm

GF, don't even type that word from here on out. Sadly, seriously.

fuflans December 14, 2011 at 11:08 pm

i was going with 'goat-herder' but terrorist works too.

Negropolis December 14, 2011 at 11:10 pm

This has been the case since the passing of the Patriot Act.

V572 the Merciless December 14, 2011 at 6:18 pm

Man I am gonna denounce so many people to the CIA or the Army or whatever so I can get them sent to Gitmo forever. You know, that Ken Layne guy…don't want to say anything but I heard from my brother-in-law who talked to a guy who said he was totally al Qaeda.

Oh yeah, and I also heard from a very reliable source that the guy in the White House is really a Kenyan anti-colonialist mole, a Nairobi Candidate so to speak, and as soon as his Control activates him we'll all have to be Muslims. So: off to the military tribunal with him! Or maybe just send a drone strike. Because WTF, it was a really good source who told me.

user-of-owls December 14, 2011 at 11:13 pm

Man I am gonna denounce so many people to the CIA or the Army or whatever so I can get them sent to Gitmo forever.

Petty revenge is a terrible reason to inform on people and destroy their lives. I'm just gonna do it for the money.

deleted4359482 December 15, 2011 at 10:53 am

Capitalism, fuck yeah!!!!!1

Preferred Customer December 14, 2011 at 6:23 pm

On the upside, I hear even Republicans support government-run healthcare in military prisons.

poorgradstudent December 14, 2011 at 7:06 pm

You could probably also have food other than Chicken Nuggets and ramen.

An_Outhouse December 15, 2011 at 9:03 am

The only way you could know that is someone has talked to you. Off you go!

OCcupied_Surf_Serf December 14, 2011 at 6:24 pm

…does not challenge the president’s ability to collect intelligence

Just don't challenge the sheeple's ability to collect porn….

BaldarTFlagass December 14, 2011 at 6:25 pm

At least our dictator is a cool black dude, not some dopey trust-fund shmoe from Texas, like I used to worry about. Like having Shaft in charge, rather than Gomer Pyle.

V572 the Merciless December 14, 2011 at 7:14 pm

Like having OJ in charge, instead of Barney Fife.
Like having Thurgood Marshall in charge, instead of Judge Judy.
Like having Lynn Swann in charge, instead of Tim Tebow…

RadioYKWE December 14, 2011 at 7:51 pm

Like Stalin being a Georgian with a sense of humor.

iburl December 14, 2011 at 9:49 pm

We're getting the Shaft, I know that much.

Biff December 14, 2011 at 10:53 pm

Hush your mouth!

DaRooster December 15, 2011 at 9:21 am

… for now…

SpiderCrab December 15, 2011 at 12:28 pm

You're so right. Style is everything.

Lionel[redacted]Esq December 14, 2011 at 6:28 pm

But we still have money for bombing brown people, right?

KotBR December 14, 2011 at 10:39 pm

We always have money for bombing brown people. And bailing out white collar criminals.

DaRooster December 15, 2011 at 9:22 am

Perhaps we can have some bombings of brown people here on our own turf?

hagajim December 14, 2011 at 6:29 pm

Someone should challenge the Constitutionalily of this in about 3…2…1. Oh wait, if they challenge they'll prolly be hauled off to Gitmo – forever. Thanks fucking Barry! Dickwad.

Bonzos_Bed_Time December 14, 2011 at 6:43 pm

Hope and Change!

RadioYKWE December 14, 2011 at 7:53 pm

Haha, no doubt the SCOTUS will overturn it on the fast track. Just like the 2000 Florida election results.

Negropolis December 14, 2011 at 11:13 pm

Someone should so totally challenge this. Being that Obama's in the White House, and since it's practically a policy, now, that the Supremes have to rule against Obama on big issues, this shit would be tossed out faster than you can say "unconstitutional." I guess Scalito would finally be good for something.

HogeyeGrex December 15, 2011 at 6:17 am

Actually, I suspect that they'll say you'd need to be hauled off to Gitmo before you had standing to take it to court in the first place, so… yah. Good fucking luck getting a case to the Supreme Court from your dank cellar hole with your head locked in a sack.

G'bye, America. 'Twas nice knowin' ya.

Dashboard Buddha December 14, 2011 at 6:30 pm

Well hell…we're not even pretending to not be fascist now.

Nostrildamus December 14, 2011 at 6:33 pm

Orange is a lovely color.

V572 the Merciless December 14, 2011 at 7:16 pm

Plus you get a Koran and halal meals. Something to read, something to eat, enjoyable tropical weather…

Just trying to look at the bright side.

slowhansolo December 15, 2011 at 1:37 pm

Let's not forget the free haircuts!

Mumbletypeg December 14, 2011 at 6:34 pm

"…and the Grinch's heart appetite for encroachable human rights grew three sizes that day." The End. Sleep well, kiddies!

Not_So_Much December 14, 2011 at 6:35 pm

The Fourth Amendment was for pussies anyway.

(there should be an emoticon that represents an inbred hillbilly shooting both guns into the sky)

StarsUponThars December 14, 2011 at 6:37 pm

uh oh, I was looking at pornaments on the Internet today. When I disappear, tell my family I loved them.

EatsBabyDingos December 14, 2011 at 6:43 pm

In the spirit of the season, may mighty Space Jeebus deliver a three pound kidney stone to each and evey person associated with this.

BaldarTFlagass December 14, 2011 at 6:49 pm

Better yet, how about 48 1-ounce kidney stones?

EatsBabyDingos December 14, 2011 at 7:12 pm

I'm ok with that! I'm sure the thoughtfule
American people will respond by saying "of course, we are concerned..Hey isn't that a Kardashian? OMG!"

HogeyeGrex December 15, 2011 at 6:19 am

Made of coal and botulism.

slowhansolo December 15, 2011 at 1:38 pm

Bob Casey, we're looking at you…

HistoriCat December 14, 2011 at 6:43 pm

The Bill of Rights? That's just a quaint piece of paper…

We are so fucked.

sbj1964 December 14, 2011 at 6:44 pm

The powers that be, have just managed to put the final nail in the Constitution.And I do not see the Supreme Court getting this one right.We are all screwed.The Government has in the past considered Green Peace as Terrorist,Tree huggers,and Civil Rights protesters as a threat.1984 has arrived.

Guppy December 14, 2011 at 6:44 pm

Meh, it'll get repealed about three seconds after the Army scoops up the next blond-haired, blue-eyed, Jesus-lovin' McVeigh.

V572 the Merciless December 14, 2011 at 7:17 pm

You're assuming the gummint will be consistent in their use of the new powers. That's sweet.

Guppy December 14, 2011 at 7:21 pm

I'm just recalling why we have (well, "had") the Posse Comitatus Act to begin with: because the Army was going after the noble, chivalrous, Jesus-lovin' Klan rather than them uppity nigrahs.

Negropolis December 14, 2011 at 11:15 pm

It'll have to be a white girl. The nation goes crazy over mistreated/disappeared white girls.

An_Outhouse December 15, 2011 at 9:06 am

paging Patty Hearst. Will Patty Hearst please report to customer service?

Dashboard Buddha December 15, 2011 at 8:06 am

By the time they get to the blond-haired, blue-eyed, Jesus-lovin' McVeighs the Army would already have rounded everyone one else because when they rounded up the others, the blond-haired, blue-eyed, Jesus-lovin' McVeighs said nothing.

BigDumbRedDog December 14, 2011 at 6:44 pm

Occupy Gitmo!

EatsBabyDingos December 14, 2011 at 6:46 pm

But don't occupy the Port-a-potty, because I'm about to hurl.

TanzbodenKoenig December 14, 2011 at 6:45 pm

Sweet! Now I just have to steal WND's mailing list and tell the FBI they are all sekrit Muslin soshulists and – POOF! – wingnuts begone!

SayItWithWookies December 14, 2011 at 6:48 pm

All of a sudden everybody likes big government — what the fuck.
At any rate, the provisions in it are so colossally stupid and so badly muddle who gets to imprison who that the Supreme Court will ideally say it's in violation of existing statutes even if Antonin Scalia salivates over imprisoning innocent Americans forever for no reason. Fuckin' nation of dumbasses we are.

Mumbletypeg December 14, 2011 at 7:10 pm

the Supreme Court will ideally say it's in violation of existing statutes

Yet Carl Levin would like to remind you when he quoted SCOTUS' something-or-other that “there is no bar to this nation’s holding one of its own citizens as an enemy combatant.” Not what I'd expected from a seasoned Democrat and public education advocate whom Jon Stewart likes to call "Grandpa Munster."

V572 the Merciless December 14, 2011 at 7:18 pm

When we're betting on Scalia as our last defender of our liberties, we're in a very strange place.

SayItWithWookies December 15, 2011 at 1:47 am

We're betting on a strict constructionist to defend a modicum of clarity, and even more so, on the parochial interests of the judicial branch to review what the executive branch is doing, which any extrajudicial detainment fucks with. I'm not saying it's a great deal of hope, but Scalia and a long line of judicial assholes have been willing to fight tooth and nail for their part of checks and balances. That type of meanness I'll bet on.

V572 the Merciless December 15, 2011 at 1:58 am

Sure like to believe it, but look who said that Gitmo detainees don’t deserve judicial review:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/12/AR2008061201695.html

The decision brought biting dissents from the four conservative justices, with Justice Antonin Scalia taking the unusual step of summarizing his opposition from the bench. “America is at war with radical Islamists,” he wrote, adding that the decision “will almost certainly cause more Americans to be killed.” He went on to say: “The Nation will live to regret what the court has done today.”

SayItWithWookies December 15, 2011 at 2:43 am

I did say "even if Scalia" wants to imprison people forever. Hell, if the five less insane justices vote the way they did in 2008, that would be awesome.
I didn't mean to sound like I was saying either side would vote for the positive outcome in my response, but that in the Supreme Court the justices tend to protect their place in the system regardless of other ideological concerns. Also the law as it now stands ("the military must imprison domestic terrorists but this in no way conflicts with civil law enforcement's mandate to do the same thing") makes no freakin' sense. One of those lines of reasoning should win over the nonsense that Congress and Obama seem to approve of.

Guppy December 15, 2011 at 2:17 am

Hey, if we live in a world where Ashcroft can save us from Gonzales…

ifthethunderdontgetya December 14, 2011 at 6:50 pm

Thanks for the Hope and Change, Obama.

P.S. The only reason the White House was even making noises about vetoing this p.o.s. is because they're of the opinion that they have these war-on-terra powers already.
~

Negropolis December 14, 2011 at 11:18 pm

Bingo. This is more a fight over executive and congressional powers than it is about the actual issue. It's inside baseball. Very evil inside baseball.

flamingpdog December 14, 2011 at 6:53 pm

Sorry, nothing funny about this. I'm going home to DRINK.

flamingpdog December 14, 2011 at 6:58 pm

Pfft, Bill O' Rights about as worthless now as Bill O' Reilly.

poorgradstudent December 14, 2011 at 7:04 pm

Even you non-pragmatic, Firedoglake-loving progressives have to admit that presiding over the final, de facto transformation of the US from a republic to an authoritarian oligarchy does constitute the "change" Obama promised!

EatsBabyDingos December 14, 2011 at 7:14 pm

I feel the pain of everyone
Then, I feel nothing.

HogeyeGrex December 15, 2011 at 6:25 am

…as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.

dadanarchist December 14, 2011 at 7:14 pm

FREEEEEEEEEEE-DUUUUUUUMMMMMBBBBB!!!!

dadanarchist December 14, 2011 at 7:16 pm

Your lack of enthusiasm has been noticed, comrade.

poorgradstudent December 14, 2011 at 7:19 pm

Also, I'm all up for holding a public funeral for the American republic.

I mean, you can argue it's always been way overidealized or at least that it's been on life support for decades now, but if the passage of this bill doesn't mark the last desperate, wheezing gasp of American democracy I don't know what did or would.

poncho_pilot December 14, 2011 at 7:58 pm

hey, we still have American Idol, right? that's kind of like living in a democracy. and just today, i chose Coke over Pepsi. i've never felt so empowered!

V572 the Merciless December 14, 2011 at 7:20 pm

So glad the Stag's Leap club delivered a case of Cabernet today. If you're going to drink yourself to the point where this doesn't matter any more (somewhere on the continuum between a comfortable drunk, passing out, oblivion or death, it's better if it's a nice wine, at least for the first few bottles.

mavenmaven December 14, 2011 at 7:25 pm

Look askance at the TSA dude on line in the airport and you get a free extraordinary rendition to the overseas torture site of their choice…

johnnyzhivago December 14, 2011 at 11:40 pm

On the plus side, you may qualify for extra Milage Plus Points!

user-of-owls December 15, 2011 at 12:07 am

Which you can redeem for upgrades at participating Black Site Suites locations worldwide!

dadanarchist December 15, 2011 at 1:03 am

It's true: after your waterboarding, you'll get a nice seaweed mask to help smooth out the wrinkles (earned from screaming at the top of your lungs in terror/pain/begging for death)….

All part of the full service you can expect to receive at the Spa at Guantanamo Bay. New location opening soon in Bagram!

bagofmice December 15, 2011 at 10:25 am

At long last, a reason to catch herpes.

Bluestatelibel December 14, 2011 at 7:33 pm

It's sort of like the Salem Witch Trials now, and anyone can rat anyone out. Except the shitty oppressive Puritans at least gave you a trial…a shitty one, but still something. My, how we've progressed.

BarackMyWorld December 14, 2011 at 7:34 pm

Well, I for one welcome our new civil liberties denying police state overlords.

V572 the Merciless December 14, 2011 at 7:48 pm

Well, they've always been fair and judicious in the past. Just ask Jose Padilla or Bradley Manning. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has a slightly different view, but he's not a US citizen, and gets really nervous when anybody runs water in the sink.

Negropolis December 14, 2011 at 11:19 pm

I do, too. Mostly, because we don't have a choice. lol

Mumbletypeg December 14, 2011 at 7:36 pm

And it's not as if the US of A doesn't already have a nationally AND globally disproportionate percentage of citizens subsisting in its prisons. Yet why let this inform one's perspective? We're still not coming across as hard-assed and formidable enough? These power-tripping lawmakers are fulfilling what Robin Williams said of cocaine: "Anything that makes you paranoid and impotent – - give me more of that!"

poncho_pilot December 14, 2011 at 7:57 pm

i'd bet good money that a number of those lawyers say the same thing about cocaine that they say about playing with the lives of others.

RadioYKWE December 14, 2011 at 8:05 pm

M, that's what I was thinking too. Let's just flood the already overcrowded prisons with people. And throw the illegal immigrants in there. Fucking millions and millions. And since the most obvious purveyors of terroristic tactics is the Military-Industrial-Socialist Complex itself, throw every bomb making, selling, servicing, dropping member in there too.
We couldn't win the War on Cancer, or Drugs, or most anything, but damned if we don't win this War on the "T" Word.

ShaveTheWhales December 14, 2011 at 7:55 pm

Shit.

ingloriousbytch December 14, 2011 at 7:56 pm

Oh Hopey, I love you but it's times like this I just want to punch you in the dick.

All snark aside, I really want to know what goes through Obama's mind when he looks into the faces of his daughters and then gets ready to sign a bill that would've made it easy to put MLK away in Guantanamo forever.

Dudleydidwrong December 14, 2011 at 9:39 pm

Somewhere the charred, burning hands of J Edgar Hoover are applauding. And then it is back to looking for Clyde Tolson.

flamingpdog December 14, 2011 at 10:38 pm

If Hopey could go back in time and confront James Earl Ray as he was getting a bead on MLK, by the time the confrontation was over, Barry would be saying, "OK, you can go ahead and shoot him, but please be gentle."

Millennial Malaise December 14, 2011 at 8:10 pm

Sigh.

One step closer to the end of the Republic. It's like watching a car wreck in slow motion. Impossible to stop once in motion, but the sense of inevitably gives the act a kind of sad beauty. Deep down, I feel a lot of resentment towards the older generations for letting it get this bad, but I also realize that things are only going to get more interesting – good or bad? I'd rather not guess.

poncho_pilot December 14, 2011 at 8:42 pm

now i want to watch Crash again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5QErPDNcj4

schvitzatura December 15, 2011 at 4:00 am

now I want to watch American Beauty again.

bagofmice December 15, 2011 at 10:36 am

You press and hold 'A' for aftertouch. /burnout.

Waaaay too obscure.

Link?
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=burnout+after...

Bluestatelibel December 14, 2011 at 8:30 pm

So now we have *officially* reached this part: "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

DerrickWildcat December 14, 2011 at 8:46 pm

Slightly off topic, but as a little experiment I conducted on Flickr early this spring, I posted a picture and tagged it with all the popular things going on at the time (Tim Tebow had just been drafted so I included him as a tag)
With a Pro-Flickr account you can see what the actual search engine query was that landed them on the photo. Starting on Nov 26th I noticed that this photo started getting hit with, "Tim Tebows Girlfriend" so I changed the the tag to, "Tim Tebow Girlfriend" and since then, this shot has had 200 views purely due to it being tagged, Tim Tebow Girlfriend.
I just thought it was amusing. I might play around with the tags and misspell them to see what happens.

Oh, here's Tim Tebow Girlfriend: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30500320@N06/4548853...

DerrickWildcat December 14, 2011 at 8:53 pm

Haha, here's a new one &lt;a href="http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tim tebow girlfriend on american idol" target="_blank"&gt; <a href="http:// ;http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tim%20tebow%20gir…%3C/a%3E" target="_blank"> ;http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tim tebow gir…

I just added "Tim Tebow Girlfriend Naked Nude Jesus"
Let's see how long that takes.

flamingpdog December 14, 2011 at 10:42 pm

Well, if nothing else, it's pretty obvious that he doesn't shave his girlfriend's muskrat.

Come here a minute December 14, 2011 at 9:05 pm

Muskrat tits or gtmo.

SudsMcKenzie December 14, 2011 at 9:21 pm

Muskrat Love?

dadanarchist December 14, 2011 at 9:24 pm

Mass, un-Constitutional, indefinite detention is one solution to persistent unemployment.

Walkinwiddaking December 14, 2011 at 9:24 pm

Man, all those movies from the 70's are coming true.

sbj1964 December 14, 2011 at 9:26 pm

Bill O,Who's the Pinhead Now?

weejee December 14, 2011 at 9:36 pm

Zippy libel

BarackMyWorld December 14, 2011 at 10:30 pm
MiniMencken December 14, 2011 at 9:44 pm

However, using these laws, a truly progressive President will be able to exterminate the reactionary running-dog lackeys of the oligarchic oppressor class faster than you can say "Bring me the head of Alfredo Molina." But, will it make any difference anyway in the face of global warming and the extinction of clownfish? And, what about the Toronto Bluejays? Zippy the Pinhead wants people to think about these things.

iburl December 14, 2011 at 9:51 pm

Instead of voting for Obama, why don't we cut out the middle man and vote directly for the shadow government agent that told Obama to make the USA a fascist state, or else.

slowhansolo December 15, 2011 at 1:44 pm

Col. Hunter Gathers: The president's not the president, anyway. You know that."

anniegetyerfun December 14, 2011 at 9:59 pm

First, they came for the… oh, hang on, there's a knock at the door – brb

ttommyunger December 15, 2011 at 7:37 pm

You really think they'll bother to knock?

heathenette December 14, 2011 at 10:00 pm

The reality of this is making me sick. And I’m sure the Wonketters will be likely suspects. GoodyBye friends. Or wait…maybe we’ll all meet up in prison! Well then…ok!

Negropolis December 14, 2011 at 10:33 pm

The president aside, you have to admit that the name "National Defense Authorization Act" is Orewellian as all kinds of hell. I'm wary about anything with the word "authorization" in its name, now, and the "national defense" wording is just plain creepy.

This kind of shit makes it very difficult to tell Paultards that they are just being paranoid.

comrad_darkness December 15, 2011 at 10:19 am

Just because the Paultards aren't paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't insane.

flamingpdog December 14, 2011 at 10:50 pm

As a former constitutional lawyer, the president should know better," said Raha Wala, advocacy counsel for Human Rights First. "This legislation not only undermines the Constitution, it compromises national security. The president needed to show leadership on this, and he's failed."

Snark aside (mostly), for the life of me I've never understood why everyone thinks that Obama, because he is a Constitutional "expert", automatically supports everything in the Constitution. Do you have to be a Nazi to teach 20th-century German history at the college level?

poorgradstudent December 15, 2011 at 1:10 am

Ironically, there is a professor I once worked for who teaches nineteenth and twentieth century German history and looks more than a bit like the Fuhrer. He even has the mustache!

I'm still amazed that the day he came in to lecture wearing a green coat that from a distance looked a little like a Nazi uniform and with his hair parted on one side didn't end with me convulsing with laughter.

grandinquisitor December 15, 2011 at 1:09 pm

No, but apparently being the POTUS turns you into a Nazi.
#goodwinisappropriate

PocketsTheClown December 14, 2011 at 10:53 pm

First they outlaw the truck nutz and now this?

BarackMyWorld December 14, 2011 at 10:57 pm
MadBrahms December 15, 2011 at 1:21 am

What's great / sad is that before I noticed that Romney had become a Kenyan Soshulist, I was busy adding up the percentages to see what they came out to, figuring the New Math had struck again

DaRooster December 15, 2011 at 9:40 am

That's the ultimate flip flop…

comrad_darkness December 15, 2011 at 10:18 am

Like all cheap brands, they should be forced by consumer protection laws to misspell "news". I suggest "Noooz" .

Gurkman December 14, 2011 at 10:57 pm

I can see justification for everything else, but taking away our right to look at Arab porn?

Negropolis December 14, 2011 at 11:06 pm

…picked up because the military and the CIA paid a per-head bounty on “terrorists”?

I heard Kim Kardashian is a terrorist. Anyone got any more names we'd like to rid ourselves of?

RadioYKWE December 15, 2011 at 1:10 am

Todd Palin is associated with the Alaskan Independent Party which is a "t" word, secessionist, treasonous organization.

bagofmice December 15, 2011 at 10:41 am

Oh come on, (not intended to be an imperitave sentence).

Negropolis December 15, 2011 at 9:21 pm

ha, ha?

Doktor Zoom December 14, 2011 at 11:11 pm

That's OK. I wasn't using my civil liberties anyway.

user-of-owls December 14, 2011 at 11:25 pm

Exactly. They're kind of like the spices that come with the kit when you buy a rack that no one ever actually uses.

Civil liberties: The Fenugreek of American Democracy.

Fred_Wertham_Jr December 14, 2011 at 11:15 pm

I guess I should find those hidden pockets in my wallet I'm always losing shit in and just tuck the ACLU card in there for now.

TheMightyHaltor December 14, 2011 at 11:25 pm

I don't know what pisses me off more about the White House's view on this: The blatant disregard for the Bill of Rights, or that it's forcing me to agree with Paultards on something.

donner_froh December 14, 2011 at 11:30 pm

Anyone other than Fox I would assume it was photoshopped. At Fox, just another day in the graphics department.

johnnyzhivago December 15, 2011 at 12:49 am

Romney's BLACK??!!!!??!!!

donner_froh December 14, 2011 at 11:33 pm

So we can forget all that stuff about unreasonable search and seizure since it will all be reasonable now.

tangerinexdream December 15, 2011 at 4:44 am

And basically cut con law too. Well this should make the bar exam a lot easier!

johnnyzhivago December 14, 2011 at 11:42 pm

Oh come on guys, if you can't trust the government who can you trust?

Biff December 14, 2011 at 11:42 pm

Oh for fuck's sake. Makes me wish my little community had a water tower. Or a bell tower. Or even a building over 3 stories high, for that matter. Because no matter how fucked up it gets, you can always carry your rifle to the top of the water tower and you just know you won't be coming back down on your own power…

ttommyunger December 15, 2011 at 7:40 pm

Except all you would get in your sights are the sheeple. Even the cops are sheeple. I want the perpetrators of this legal coup.

Beetagger December 14, 2011 at 11:59 pm

Now can we stop saluting the fucking flag and saying the goddamned pledge of allegiance?

Dashboard Buddha December 15, 2011 at 8:02 am

No…now we have to do those things even more. Before EACH class…when you're on the toilet…even when having sex.

pinkocommi December 15, 2011 at 12:11 am

Remember when we, as US citizens, had Constitutional rights? (sniff…. lone tear falls from eye)

Neoyorquino December 15, 2011 at 12:56 am
BTWBFDIMHO December 15, 2011 at 1:09 am

Guess who else did…? Oh, never mind.

Warpde December 15, 2011 at 1:33 am

OK, now I'm confused….What century is this?

BarackMyWorld December 15, 2011 at 2:03 am

Whichever one the dystopian future was supposed to begin in.

jesus_vs_gojira December 15, 2011 at 1:33 am

This fucking shit is going to turn me into a libertarian, and I hate libertarians.

BarackMyWorld December 15, 2011 at 2:02 am

I find myself agreeing with Ron Paul more and more, or at least seeing his point on things both foreign and domestic…I am absolutely drawing the line at the gold standard, though.

tangerinexdream December 15, 2011 at 5:22 am

Having been a victim of UN mind control programs in our schools I am simply incapable of agreeing with him. Oh well!

jesus_vs_gojira December 15, 2011 at 11:52 am

Libertarians want to do away with a lot of things that I like … things like environmental protection, Social Security, worker safety rules, minimum wage, food inspection, FEMA, unions, public schools, public transportation, fiat currency, indoor smoking bans, being nice to other people, etc.

But I might trade all of those for habeus corpus and the 4th Amendment.

Diabeetis December 15, 2011 at 1:39 pm

The Democratic Party has also been helping to reduce the power of all of these things for the past four decades or so (well, except for the indoor smoking bans and FEMA).

Negropolis December 15, 2011 at 2:12 am

You know who else had a domestic police force and enacted emergency laws?

ShaveTheWhales December 15, 2011 at 2:18 am

All of th … oh, fuck it.

DaRooster December 15, 2011 at 11:50 am

Bloomberg?

Not yet?

schvitzatura December 15, 2011 at 4:11 am

In order to ensure our security and continuing stability, the Republic will be reorganized into the first American Empire, for a safe and secure society which I assure you will last for ten thousand years.

Negropolis December 15, 2011 at 7:54 am

Won't anyone rid of us these turbulent Jedi?

tangerinexdream December 15, 2011 at 4:43 am

So this is awesome guys – do you think they'll let us have like a once a week Wonkette table in the lunchroom at Gitmo? I mean we should started organizing now. I've been so looking forward to meeting all of you!

I'll be the woman wearing orange.

tangerinexdream December 15, 2011 at 4:55 am

So this is awesome guys – do you think they'll let us have like a once a week Wonkette table in the lunchroom at Gitmo? I mean we should started organizing now. I've been so looking forward to meeting all of you!

Huevos Ocupados December 15, 2011 at 4:56 am

I am sure that ours will be a kinder, gentler fascism.

Negropolis December 15, 2011 at 8:00 am

I always thought that when fascism would reach America, it'd be wrapped in a kindly, Southern Fried accent. But, maybe, the black guy is the perfect cover to formally implement such an empire.

Shock and awe, baby; shock and awe.

Huevos Ocupados December 16, 2011 at 11:38 am

Or at least a Republican, no? The fact that a supposed Democrat is going to sign this one into law kind of calls shenanigans on the whole two party charade. I guess Occupy really does have these fuckers shitting bricks.

Fukui_sanYesOta December 15, 2011 at 5:48 am

It's Wednesday, it's nearly 3am, and it's time for an OT post.

So I found this on the snopes message board. An email relating to their debunking of some wild internet rumour about Hopey randomly changing decor in the White House.

I've fixed for paragraphs but nothing else.


I am writing in regards to your article on the decor in White House since Obama became president. If it is indeed true that each president can change that particular room's decor why is it that whenever he gives a speech or even talks there are no flags present.

Even to you this must be a little strange. I personally did not vote for him and I
can sleep at night knowing I did the right thing. He is destroying this great country. He is always on tv in the limelight. When does he even get to do the job he is supposed to do. He did not even get sworn in using a Bible as all other Presidents before him he used the Koran.

While I feel we have freedom of religion in this country and feel that we should not look at all muslims as terrorists because all of them are not just a lot of radicals are but we have those in our own country. He is destroying this country by spending and not worrying about how it will be paid. The reason for that is that he knows by now that he will probably and most likely be a one term president.

The nation can take some of the blame also because he campaigned on change and no one asked what he would change. We are helping impoverished nations as with all the other presidents but there are many in this country myself included that could use some help also and they keep sending millions of dollars and food and even shelter to other nations and forget about those who do not have food or shelter in our own country.

Some months I have to make a choice between food and medicine. So I get the medicine and get food that I can ration myself on it may not be as healthy for me but I have no choice I have many medical bills to pay no one is going to pay those for me no one is going to help me with food or keeping the roof over my head.

Some of that article is true just needs to be worded differently Obama apologized to the muslims for America we did not hurt the muslims we were hurt by the muslims we should receive the apology no president should be apologising to our enemies. But then no nation will in the end survive God's wrath should they keep going as they are.

This, to me, shows the strength of the GOP narrative. Whoever this person may be, and despite the (rather mad) views expressed, the single bit of personal information is the part I've emphasized and I find it deeply sad.

The person writing this anti-Obama screed is voting against his or her best interest. What the FUCK? HOW is the the narrative that strong? What are we doing wrong in communicating with these people?

Apologies for the snark-free post.

Negropolis December 15, 2011 at 8:16 am

This is a profoundly ill, and increasingly self-isolating nation, is about all I can tell you. I said it during the 2008 primaries that if he was ever elected, they'd never allow him to actually lead, and that this was essentially the powers that be leaving this guy holding the bag as the nation descended into hell. He exacerbated this reality by trying to pretend that he was dealing with honest brokers and people that genuinely cared about America. I'm not talking about the people that write these kind of letters, rather the people that exploit these kind of people.

The peple that cynically opened this wound out of little more than spite and petty politics will pay. The unfortunate and scary thing is that we will ALL pay (and are paying) for this cynical exploitation of low information voters, particularly by the GOP and its allies and ideological brethren.

Hell isn't in the afterlife; hell is right, here, right now. It's time to bring this thing to a head. It's time to start shouting on our end, again. This country needs a massive, national mic check. I said it in another thread, but we used to argue about how we were getting to the moon and how many people we could empower and raise up. Now, we're fighting over a payroll tax cut extension and whether unemployed people get to eat. This nation, and particularly its government, is morally bankrupt.

Toomush_Infer December 15, 2011 at 8:17 am

At three a.m, you should be drinking yourself into a much-deserved coma….just sayin'…

El Pinche December 15, 2011 at 8:40 am

That's just a really long and stupid way of saying, "I hate that nigger, he aint my presnit."

e_z December 15, 2011 at 6:29 am

Two things about people. They fear. They want to feel better about themselves.

Put those two together and you have ready made a system that thrives on unknown "others" Those who are below you either in an economic sense or some other internal metric….and those who might somehow gain from where they are. For those who live in a black and white/either or world that gain means their loss.

Yup, it's fucked up, but that's Humans.

Now for REALLY fucked up, bullshit on the Military operating unchecked in America. That's fucked up, but that's America.

Negropolis December 15, 2011 at 7:56 am

BTW, where is Occupy Wall Street when you really need them? I think it's time to shut the Congress down, ourselves, as opposed to them pretending to shut it down, themselves. Occupy the Chambers.

As soon as these fuckers take their holiday break, I say we rush the place. The Capitol Commune has a nice ring to it…

Negropolis December 15, 2011 at 8:05 am

It took until 2010, but a huge swath of Americans started finally recognizing and then vocalizing that the American Empire has no clothes. Problem is, it's apparently too late.

2012 is going to be a very strange year, a very, very, very strange year depending on how things play themselves out.

Toomush_Infer December 15, 2011 at 8:12 am

Well, at least it won't be government run….(they let me drive again, I feel alive again!…)

bflrtsplk December 15, 2011 at 8:26 am

Today, we are all terrorists! See you all at Gitmo.

bureaucrap December 15, 2011 at 10:10 am

Gitmo's relatively small, so only the best of the best "terrorists" will get to go there (you know, tropics, sun, bananas right off the tree, etc). The rest of us will be "outsourced" to our new base in Kazakhstan.

GunToting[Redacted] December 15, 2011 at 10:30 am

I call top bunk!

prommie December 15, 2011 at 9:20 am

I'm not too concerned, because I know that at least I will be told which direction Mecca lies in, and I will be able to align myself for prayer properly.

DaRooster December 15, 2011 at 9:26 am

Keep a hold of your fingers people… as "someone missing fingers" can be suspected of being a terrorist.
Hope my old bass player doesn't get spotted.

comrad_darkness December 15, 2011 at 10:22 am

This a clumsy bomb making attempt symptom or something?

DaRooster December 15, 2011 at 9:38 am

"…because they were just random goat herders or whatever, picked up because the military and the CIA paid a per-head bounty on “terrorists”? Yeah well same thing now, but in the United States!"

Bonus… the troops are coming home to help with this?

GunToting[Redacted] December 15, 2011 at 10:32 am

No, the bonus is all the new goat-herding jobs being created.

comrad_darkness December 15, 2011 at 10:16 am

Isn't it great when the two parties create a balance of power where one party controls the legislature and the other the executive and that keeps extremism in check?

Me neither.

comrad_darkness December 15, 2011 at 10:21 am

So, THIS is why I married a foreigner.

SnarkoMarx December 15, 2011 at 10:57 am

Dear Hopey,

You can stop sending me emails now asking for my support and/or vote in 2012. I'll just write in the ghost of Eugene Debs who said it is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.

WordSaladNation December 15, 2011 at 11:15 am

Personally, I love this law. I think it's the best law ever, better than all the other laws that we have and all the laws that we will think up in the future. Hooray, this law!

(Do you think that will save me from Gitmo?)

Nopantsmcgee December 15, 2011 at 11:41 am

WH switchboard is 1-202-456-2121,l FWIW.

It's been busy for two hours now.

Not that it matters. God, I'm depressed.

Nopantsmcgee December 15, 2011 at 11:43 am

Um, don't the courts have a say in this????

Goddamn it Barry. You're really pissing me off.

BornInATrailer December 15, 2011 at 11:51 am

Why is Obama trying to turn me into a Paultard?

I can't muster much snark. I already sent emails to the two turd senators from NH. But at least I was confident in the veto. I don't understand what is happening but this may be a vote changer for me.

grandinquisitor December 15, 2011 at 1:11 pm

Run OWS, run!

WIDTAP December 15, 2011 at 1:26 pm

Now that we no longer have Iraq, we need to have our soldiers go to war here inside the US. After all, if we can no longer fight them over there, we might as well declare a few of our fellow citizens "them" and fight "them" over here.

slowhansolo December 15, 2011 at 1:35 pm

Remember when we used to speak with contempt of the Soviet gulags? Wonder which part of our nation is going to become New Siberia?

poorgradstudent December 15, 2011 at 2:32 pm

I wouldn't mind if we do get a real life John Carpenter's "Escape from New York."

WIDTAP December 15, 2011 at 3:28 pm

Door County Wisconsin or pretty much anywhere in Rhode Island.

ttommyunger December 15, 2011 at 7:43 pm

And yet Hilary is still flying around the World denouncing other Countries for their "appalling lack of consideration for Human Rights". Unfuckingbelievable!

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