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Why Is Elizabeth Warren Doing So Well in Polls When Karl Rove Told Everyone To Hate Her?


Hey, everyone remember that weird attack ad Karl Rove’s sweatshop of joyless video editor-slaves at Crossroads GPS slapped together a few weeks ago accusing Massachusetts Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren of hating “job creation” because she, um, sympathized with the concerns of the unemployed and Occupy Wall Street? Yeah, so: how well has this strategy worked for Team Karl? Warren is up seven points in a new poll and leading in the race against Scott Brown for the first time, is how well! The poll also found that voters think Warren is a better advocate for the dwindling middle class than Wall Street knob-gobbler Brown by a ten-point margin. Hmmmmm. Well, crap. No, hey, look guys, Team Karl does not panic, the thing to do here is oh, uh, gah, URGH… OH THEY KNOW, just make the exact opposite ad, this time accusing Elizabeth Warren of sinister, cold hatred for the working class.

Elizabeth Warren: the only candidate you know of who is both dangerously in favor of Occupy Wall Street and also madly in love with Wall Street banks.

It’s sort of a bizarre ad considering that Elizabeth Warren is mostly famous to policy nerds for how much Wall Street hates her, for her efforts with the Obama administration to reform the financial system. In fact, you could say that this is her entire brand. So, good luck with the new ad! [Dumb new Crossroads GPS ad on YouTube/ Boston Herald]

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    1. Angry_Marmot

      It's bad enough just being Karl Rove; I can't even imagine what kind of botfly larvae would work for him.

        1. Crowe2011

          Would you hire any of College Republicans you've met? No? Well they need to work somewhere when they graduate and American Crossroads is hiring.

  1. sbj1964

    Karl is just venting the vile of the GOP/RNC has for the 99%.They hate even the idea that people are fed up with the 1% raping the middle class ,destroying the the economy while getting filthy rich ,and telling the rest of us to suck it up.

    1. DaRooster

      Thanks for reminding me…
      Dear Santa,
      Could you please give me some new bootstraps?

      1. Negropolis

        I'm so glad that I wasn't the only one that thought that the picture was of a young Elizabeth Warren. lol

    1. poncho_pilot

      there's a straw man waiting in this ad.
      he thought we'd understand it but it's really just quite sad.
      there's a straw man waiting in this ad.
      they told him not to blow it and now he looks a cad.
      he told me:
      let the people suffer.
      i'll make you all suffer.
      let all the people eat cake.

  2. Barb

    Karl Rove was referred to as "Bush's brain" and like Bush's brain, Karl is only working part time now.

    1. memzilla

      The term "Bush's Brain" would look really great on the letterhead of the International War Crimes Tribunal at The Hague. I think you could pretty much leave the rest of the "Accused Of" line empty.

        1. Fare la Volpe

          That's like saying you'd rather charge Jar Jar Binks with war crimes over Emperor Palpatine. Sure the first one is a moron who led the entire galaxy into an endless war, but the other is the mastermind who led him to do it.

          1. PalinzADummy

            But … (sniff!) … I just want Georgeya to get it in the neck! WAAAAH! (sob, sniffle)

            Howzabout we string 'em BOTH up? Side by side? That should keep everyone happy, right?

      1. Barb

        Went well, met the surgeon and now I have to wait four weeks, lol. Now we have the holidays together.

          1. PalinzADummy

            I'm fine, it's just some scar tissue that built up around my fake knee. They have to take it out because it's starting to sound like a jug band every time I try to walk.

            I shoulda had it replaced with a hollow leg. Then I coulda kept all my booze hidden on my person.

            It's just painful (house has 88 stairs, and stairs are the last thing you want to do with a bum knee) and unpleasant, is all. Unlike you, which is major AND painful and unpleasant too.

          2. Barb

            Yikes, those stairs sound brutal. Please, let me know the minute you are out of surgery and able to chat.

            Jeff got me a mini fridge for the loft from He's going to leave snacky cakes for me while he goes to work. Beats the shit out of hanging a ham over the bed and having me noshing on it between naps.

          3. subsum

            Get well soon. I strongly demand that whatever's ailing you fucks off and sticks to some teabagger instead.

          4. PalinzADummy

            Will do, sweet lady.

            Jeff is definitely the Best of Husbands. Hanging a ham over the bed is not recommended, you need to use your stomach muscles to nip at it, and that will hurt. Pity I don't live nearby, or I'd bring chicken soup. Will anyone be dropping in to check on you while Jeff's at work? I recommend a Netflix or other live-streaming movie subscription, you probably won't be feeling overly friendly, social, or even compos mentis for a bit.

            Although that ham over the bed reminds me of stories about poor people in Ireland hanging the bacon over the dining table so everyone could rub their potatoes on it before eating 'em. Flavour is everything, innit?

          5. DaRooster

            Myself? I can't wait to read Barbs of Barb on pain meds…

            (But please take care and get well soon)

            ps-Save me some ham…

          6. Dashboard_Jesus

            88 STAIRS, WTF! that's why me and the old lady went to a one story house when we turned 50, it ain't that we're lazy it's just that we don't want to carry each other up/ down stairs every day when we're 70…best wishes for speedy recovery!

          7. PalinzADummy

            Thanks for your kind wishes. It's not a seller's market, though, and I'm stuck with my House of A Million Stairs until the market improves. On the PLUS side, it can take a while for the cats to find and annoy me.

    2. Fukui_sanYesOta

      Good to see you back! Teh wonketariat were sending our best wishes, in a hugely drunk "we totally love you barb" way.

      1. mayor_quimby

        Just to jump on the health thread, I'm glad to hear y'all are sorta OK.
        . My dad had a recent health scare, which has made me realize my black ass is getting old, and maybe should visit a doctor every now and then. Funny how men will wait until we are in the ambulance to reevaluate our health choices, yet most (insured) women go to the doc when they have a sniffle.
        I thought guns were supposed to ensure my health, this is bullshit! And the bacon and beef diet was supposed to make me healthy. I blame fuckin' Oprah.

        1. PalinzADummy

          Sorry about your Dad, hope he's doing better. And yes, you NEED to get your black ass to a doctor, dammit, regularly. Black men are the WORST for taking care of their health, which is bad, bad, bad, because Black men also have the worst health problems (the stress of living in a society that pretty much fucking hates you will do that). I want to hear that you went to a doctor and got the full physical, and soon, OK?

          Your Mom paid me to say that. Now do it.

          1. mayor_quimby

            Please erase my Mom's mobile # from your iPhone, and I know what you mean about stress, that's just background noise. It's not even that, just the fact that men are supposed to be impenetrable. But yes, I will do the deed and go get poked and prodded. And I will engage in exercise that consists of more than fucking. That should be a good thing.

          2. PalinzADummy

            That'll keep me off your back, brother. I'll pack my "your Momz" personality away in the closet for now.

            Yeah, fucking's great exercise, but if that's most of the exercise you get, I got news for you. As you get older and your non-fucking muscles get out of shape, it's going to be more embarrassing, painful, and difficult to enjoy fucking so much. So if you want to keep fucking your brains out for the rest of your life, get in shape now, dood. It's either that or enter a monastery. Srsly, the first time you throw your back out while fucking has to be the most humiliating experience ever.

          3. Dashboard_Jesus

            I highly recommend yoga practice for all your fuckin' and non-fuckin' needs…it will certainly improve the health of your back, and most other body parts (yeah I know, YOGA,,,how very un-Jeebus of me!)

        2. Dashboard_Jesus

          yes, one of the main reasons why men die before their women folk is puttin' off the doctor visits (don't worry maybe your ol lady will do what mine does, INCREASE the life insurance policy, just for laughs!)

    1. Generation[redacted]

      You can see Rove quietly adding Dan's name to his "List of people who were mean to me, so I can really stick it to them once I'm on top."

  3. DerrickWildcat

    Karl Rove stepped down from his position in the Bush Admin to spend more time with his family. His Family apparently lived in the Fox News studio. Then he stepped down from his position as Husband and Father to spend more time with his PAC.

  4. Dok-cupy Everything

    Elizabeth Warren is pretty awesome. I don't think she's at all worried that Karl Rove has his surveyor's marks on her.

  5. Fukui_sanYesOta

    So, Warren helps set up the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which was pretty much her brainchild – and which Republicans, unsurprisingly, call "job-killing". In fact, I saw odious MPAA/RIAA-fellator Orrin Hatch on CNN just today railing against it.

    This somehow makes her an enemy of the working class? Eh?

    Go Elizabeth! Send Scott B and his stupid truck packing.

    1. Biel_ze_Bubba

      Think of all the repo men, robo-signers, and property speculators who'll be out of work if banks aren't allowed to fuck people over.

  6. flamingpdog

    These guys are even trying anymore. Grizzly Mama could write an ad that made more sense than this one.

  7. weejee

    The Rove bit used the dreaded P word – Professor

    Yikes, it's gonna be egghead, egghead, egghead 24/7 in Taxachusetts 'til next Blowvember.

        1. PalinzADummy

          Two minds with but one thought, you and Negropolis. Oh, well, great minds think alike, and you're both right. They won't even notice the cognitive dissonance.

      1. Negropolis

        If they had any kind of intellectual consistency, sure. Otherwise, this won't even register a 1 on their hypocrisy scale.

        1. PalinzADummy

          Foolish of me to think they'd even notice. These are the people who say "our blacks are better than their blacks" with a straight face while speaking of a black candidate.

          1. PalinzADummy

            As a rugby/soccer enthusiast, I just want to share with you that there are TWO teams — New Zealand and Selangor — known as the All Blacks.

            I rooted for them both as a sprog.

        2. Geminisunmars

          They have a hypocrisy scale? Oh, yeah, they get one right after they take the Hypocritical Oath.

          1. PalinzADummy

            Ah b'leev Negropolis was referring to the fact that, like reptiles, their closest relatives, they are covered all over with scales.

            Edited to add: Watched Ionesco's Rhinoceros the other night, with Zero Mostel and Gene Wilder. What an utter delight!

          2. PalinzADummy

            Netflix. I'm a cheap, lazy bastard and couldn't be bothered finding a different source, at least until the leg is less gimpy. It was available streamed, so I watched it on my computer. I must have read Ionesco as a surly black-clad teenager. It was quite an education on the difficulties of staging such a play. And SO appropriate for today, despite its age.

          3. Geminisunmars

            I'm pretty sure I read it as a surly bikini-clad teenager, but don't really recall it. I'll have to check it out.When is your surgery?

          4. PalinzADummy

            Tuesday. Because of the implant and the ex-blood clot, it's more of a three-ring circus than it needs to be. Ordinarily, it would be in and out no problems, but the cats decided to use the knee for a springboard recently, and dug a couple of claws in real deep while lightly raking the entire site for, you know, laughs and blood. In the event, the surgical nurses are having hissy fits about it, so depending on whether I successfully fight all possible signs of infection, etc. And then there's the prophylactic needed for clotting. They're putting me on the gut shots instead of the rat poison. There is nothing on this planet that I hate more than needles, nothing. It's what put paid to my youthful aspirations of being a heroin addict. For 14 days I get to put shots into my fat belly twice a day. Kill me fucking now. The *good* news is, I don't have to be strapped into one of those passive motion things for eight hours a day. How fucking pathetic is your life when that is the GOOD news?

            So I'm kvetching. So check out Rhinoceros. I've been dealing with stress lately by attempting to bellow like Zero Mostel in that movie. Srsly, it is black humour to the nth.

          5. Geminisunmars

            I had to give myself shots in belly for a week after my womb dismissal and I know that sucks. Sorry you have to go through that. Hope you have a good support team. Wish I could help. I'll send positive vibes on Tues.You'd better have a talk with those cats. Fortunately my dogs aren't inclined to bounce on my body, although they've been known to tromp on my toes.

        1. Fukui_sanYesOta

          Check out this awesome Beck quote from yesterday:

          Beck said that he does not endorse candidates or get involved with politics, but when people ask him who to support he said, "If there is one guy out there that is the next George Washington, the only guy that I could think of is Rick Santorum. I would ask that you would take a look at him."

          Rick Santorum as George Washington? I can't even compute how that works in Beck's misfiring excuse for a mind.

          1. Chichikovovich

            Rick Santorum as George Washington? I can't even compute how that works in Beck's misfiring excuse for a mind.

            Maybe Santorum has wooden teeth?

          2. Biel_ze_Bubba

            I know you think Rick's all about beating up on the royals, Glenn, but… those aren't the queens you're looking for.

          1. RadioYKWE

            Your right, Pal, as usual, and you make me realize I suck at eight level chess, e.g. I can't see the purpose of that stupid payroll tax cut, other than to call out the Norquist Pledge Suckas. But aren't there better ways to do it? What can I say, I'm a Dan Carlin subscriber.

          2. PalinzADummy

            I'm not gonna argue with you on this. I have no idea half the time why he's doing what he's doing, but back when he first took charge the Republicans were all-powerful and had been for about a decade and Pox Ooze was their Mighty Wurlitzer. In three years he's exposed the Republicans as babbling idiots and Pox Ooze is no longer THE network for Idiot-Americans.

            In all honesty, I'm not 100% happy with him. There's plenty of daylight between him and me on lots of issues. But he's the best we could possibly get FOR NOW. I'm hoping more Elizabeth Warrens pop out of the woodwork. We need new progressive faces, all the old Red Diaper babies are about kaput by now. Barney Frank's stepping down reminds me of how old the Good Guyz/Galz we have in office are, already.

            In the meantime, we've got this guy and he's not perfect, but he's smart as hell, and he seems to care and so far he's done good and it looks like he'll do better. That's a lot better than having a Dumbya, or a McCain, Fred Thompson, Tommy Thompson, Mittens Romneycare, Ron Paul, Rick Santorum, Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, or, pretty much, anyone who's been running so far. I'd like someone with leftier politics, but so far there hasn't been a single *electable* candidate in the bunch.

  8. flamingpdog

    My Darwin, if they're going to draw a scary box around someone, they could at least draw it around the actual Wall Street toady sycophant, over there to the (our) left of Warren.

          1. karen

            I almost didn't post it because it was too easy, but I haven't been able to comment much lately so I figured I'd take what I could get.

  9. MrFizzy

    Maybe Scottie will get sent off to the National Penishead Internment Camp (NPIC), where he belongs.

  10. Extemporanus

    The genius of these ads will become apparent next month when Team Rove releases "Elizabeth Warren: Fickle-Minded Bitch".

  11. Not_So_Much

    'Turd Blossom' really doesn't go nearly far enough as a nickname for that talking, leaky bag of baby shit.

  12. Dok-cupy Everything

    Rove acknowledges that, in 1970, he used a false identity to gain entry to the campaign offices of Illinois Democrat Alan Dixon, who was running for state treasurer. Once inside, Rove swiped some letterhead stationery and sent out 1,000 bogus invitations to the opening of the candidate's headquarters promising "free beer, free food, girls and a good time for nothing."

    "It was a youthful prank at the age of 19 and I regret it," Rove says.

  13. PalinzADummy

    They don't even care about looking sane any more. I wonder if they realize that over 50% of the population IS sane? Or do they think they can just worry about that in the general?

  14. MzNicky

    It's such things as Karl Rove and this ad that make me hope I'm totally wrong and there really is a Hell that awaits the wicked, and into which they will tumble when they die and suffer unspeakable fiery torment forever and ever.

    1. Fukui_sanYesOta

      How about a Sisyphean task where Rove spends a year devising strategies for a Republican election (Ba'al for Senate? Asmodeus for governor of New York?) only to have a Satanic Nate Silver explain to him at the end why he failed miserably.

  15. Mumbletypeg

    What the hell's the matter with you, Rove. You sound like an ass in heat!*

    * Sherman T. Potter to Klinger who unbeknowst to Potter was doing an impression of the Colonel while on the phone.

      1. Mumbletypeg

        Out of all the great one-liners from that show — which admittedly I was too young to get really 'into' at the time — this is the one I can still summon from memory.

  16. ttommyunger

    I have to say if Adolph Hitler came back to life and ran for office, I would vote for him if Rove came out against him; that's how much I think of Karl "Doughboy" Rove.

    1. Banelm

      As explained in the book 'Liberal Fascism", Hitler would be too far to the left to win in a Republican primary in modern America.

  17. donner_froh

    Barney Frank was interview on NPR a couple of hours ago–he said that he was formerly the person who was most upset when Elizabeth Warren didn't get the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau job but not anymore. Now Scott Brown is more upset than anyone about it.

    1. fuflans

      i was only paying 1/2 an ear to marketplace when this came on. i wrote to mr. fuflans: 'barney frank is yelling at kai ryssdal right now. He is mad about republicans.'

      which i recognize in hindsight as pathetically vague.

    2. PalinzADummy

      Zing! Damn, I'm totally in love with Barney Frank. And anybody who calls Democrats "pussies"? Go say that to Barney's face. Be sure to take a leak-proof bag to store your head and ass when he hands them to ya.

  18. owhatever

    Four years from now, I intend to vote for Elizabeth Warren as President, no matter who else is running.

    1. JackDempsey1

      I'm blowing the whistle here:
      Fantasy candidates/slates more than 3 years into the future should be selected
      SOLELY on their comedic potential:
      Bigg/Johnson, etc.

  19. rocktonsam

    FOX NEWZZZZZZZZZ is reporting Warren may have something to do with the downed drone in Iran, probably.

    Not agent Nutmeg as reported by another fake news source.

  20. MzNicky

    I heard Ron Paul on NPR a little while ago saying that Elizabeth Warren was identified in secret CIA documents as having been seen on the grassy knoll in Dallas in November 1963.*


    *not really.

    1. Geminisunmars

      She was crawling around on the knoll, having gotten tired of the stroller which was concealing her rifle.

  21. Tundra Grifter

    According to Vanity Fair, Karl Rover was the GNoPee consigliere when Rick Perry switched partiesand went over to the dark side.

    I remain quite suspicious he leaked the Camp Niggerhead story. And it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he wasn't also behind Herman Cain's recent problems. Getting the word out, of course. Mr. Cain is accountable for what he did – at least liberals still believe in personal responsibility.

  22. Antispandex

    "Why Is Elizabeth Warren Doing So Well in Polls When Karl Rove Told Everyone To Hate Her?"

    It's one of those questions that answers itself.

  23. Limeylizzie

    Some nice hippy chick should have rug-fucked the bejesus out of Karl just about the time this Dan Rather interview aired, it would have altered his world view.

    1. OneDollarJuana

      Unfortunately, a rug is probably all Rove has ever been able to get, his "wife" notwithstanding.

    2. Chichikovovich

      Though rumor has it that a strapping young hippie cowboy would have brought out his fundamental nature better.

  24. __kth__

    Rove must think that election is being held in Texas, or Oklahoma, or some other place full of dumbshits that don't remember what you told them last week.

  25. Negropolis

    Turd Blossom can go blow an elephant for all I care. That coward bastard is yesterday's news; I think even he knows that, right now. If he truly thinks he can get another one over on Massholes, he's so fuckin' wrong it's not even funny. You remind everyone in MA that Karl Rove is "former Bush political strategist" Karl Rove, and it's over. Karl, these are not the votes you're looking for…

    Hey, Karl. This is what democracy looks like.

  26. Negropolis

    This just in: The Ambassador of Dumbfuckistan formally demands of the Obama administration the repatriation of Karl Rove. Mr. Rove could not be reached for comment.

  27. subsum

    Dear Ms. Warren,

    Please keep at it and beat the living shit out of Scott Brown in next year's election. Learn as much as you can over the next four years and get ready for 2016. We're going to need you.


    subsum (a guy who's part of the 99% of Americans who are not part of the 1%)

  28. fitley

    Elizabeth Warren is the real deal. She's extremely intelligent. She has a real sense of fairness and she can convey that. Even when she was having a town hall meeting with an unhinged illiterate TeaChoad she respectfully let the Tard rant until he bolted out the door. It didn't shake her at all. Then she went on with her intelligent thoughts. The TeaChoad got laughed out the door.
    Karl Rove is Bush's Anus.

    1. Geminisunmars

      I would love to see that. I love it when good people know how to handle the crazy. I had a 4th grade teacher once who would just sit quietly when the class got obstreperous, looking at her hands with a sort of mild sadness and disappointment, and the class would gradually wind down in a minute or two and then she'd go on teaching. That is who Prof Warren reminds me of.

  29. SayItWithWookies

    Karl Rove must now think he's so magical that he can smear any opponent with any charge and it'll stick. Either that or he already thinks Scott Brown is so completely doomed that he farmed this ad out to two of the ten-year-old assistant janitors that Newt and Donald got to clean his offices.

  30. Captain_Justice

    Seriously thought the inset picture was a young Elizabeth Warren for a second.

    Hey… you don't suppose….

  31. SpiderCrab

    Love that snapshot of nerdy, wet-behind-the-ears Karl. He's spent his life hating, and now he's morphed into Roger Ailes younger, but no less satanic, brother. Too bad David Broder isn't around anymore to blow him kisses.

  32. fitley

    Elizabeth Warren is the real deal. She's extremely intelligent. She has a real sense of fairness and she can convey that. Even when she was having a town hall meeting with an unhinged illiterate TeaChoad she respectfully let the Tard rant until he bolted out the door. It didn't shake her at all. Then she went on with her intelligent thoughts. The TeaChoad got laughed out the door.

  33. fitley

    Karl doesn't seem to have the same pull he had when he was "Turdblossom, AKA Bush's Anus". When he bagged on Palin her ratings went up. When he bagged on O'Donnell her ratings went up. He's yesterday's roids.

  34. DaRooster

    Since when is it a good idea to point out that an opponent agrees with the masses?
    Seems like a horrible strategy Karl… fine with me if you're a maroon.

  35. mayor_quimby

    That's the least of my worries, check with some of my ex gf's…
    More like not wanting to be told I can't subsist on beef, lamb, bacon and vodka.

  36. PalinzADummy

    True. Unlike the rest of Georgeya's hangers-on, Rove is not stupid. I looked at the numbers yesterday, and Romney's the only one who actually seems to do well against the President, although Newtie's numbers have improved. I'm trusting YOU, HistoriCat, to keep an eye on these bastids for me. I'm out of action for the next few days, so when I next check back in on Wed. or Thurs., I'll be looking for you and a full report.

  37. DaRooster

    Since Mrs. DaRooster is a nurse I was not allowed to wait until in the ambulance…
    Remember it is easier to "stay" in shape then to "get" into shape (even though I am feeling far better than ever in my life)… an ounce of prevention… etc…

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