The new CHANGE poster will just be all the Goldman Sachs building burning in Hell.People of a certain age (22?) may remember a distinct feeling of hope back in 2008, when a certain candidate for president symbolized a hoped-for end to the pent-up anger, disappointment and disillusionment of the Bush Junior years, the reduced-expectations era of Kerry and Gore and (gah!) Lieberman and Edwards, the reliably chaotic economic bubbles and collapses, the terrorism and consumerism, the disastrous foreign wars, the economic injustice, the willful ignorance of the environmental disaster, the brazen crime spree of the elites, the death of the American Soul, etc. The street artist Shepard Fairey’s now-famous HOPE poster made Barack Obama the living icon of that “okay let’s give it one more try” enthusiasm. And, uh, well, Obama couldn’t even be bothered to change the Defense Secretary, let alone anything in the Wall Street-run Treasury and Fed.

Icons do not get a second chance, whether in human or artistic forms. So Fairey’s new poster with the sinister Guy Fawkes/Anonymous #OWS protester isn’t going to “change” anything for anyone. But it is a fitting symbol of the complete evaporation of the vast reservoir of good will Obama had access to, when he entered the White House just three years ago.

Needs more Bat Signal.

The art of this moment is seen in the GENERAL STRIKE/DIRECT ACTION posters by R.Black and Erik Drooker, or in the signs carried in the street actions, or especially in the Bat Signal messages in New York last night. Or maybe in this photograph of an American Cop showing what he truly works to Protect and Serve:

Who do you protect? Who do you serve? Oh, yeah, that’s what i thought.

Anyway, take note of the moment when the Obama-HOPE poster guy threw his hat in with the #OWS movement. [Shepard Fairey]

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  • OCcupied_Surf_Serf

    I prefer the one of Cain with the slogan 'Grope'…

    or Gingrich with the slogan 'Trope'
    or Perry with the slogan 'Needa Rope?'
    or Romney with the slogan 'Heck Nope!'
    or Santorum with the slogan 'Fecal Isotope'
    or Bachmann with the slogan 'Looking Aslope'
    or Huntsman with the slogan 'Duller Than Soap'
    or Johnson with the slogan 'Grow Your Own Dope'
    or Paul with the slogan 'Gubbermint's a Slippery Slope'

    • Or…

    • V572625694

      MSM keep saying Huntsy is thoughtful and articulate and experienced, but on those few occasions when he's allowed to speak, he sounds like a rich man's son inviting everyone to bring their ponies over for a few chukkers of polo.

  • EatsBabyDingos

    I used to have a lot of hope without a lot of Sam Adams.

  • memzilla

    99% of us now live in Fawkestan.

  • user-of-owls

    Hey, I recognize that bottom photo! It's a recreation of one of Norman Rockwell's "Four Freedoms"!

    • memzilla

      Yes: "Freedom From Munniez."

      • user-of-owls

        That would work, I suppose, though my thinking was more like, "Freedom From Freedom."

        • Chichikovovich

          Very good – that must be it. I myself had misidentified it as one of Rockwell's "Three Slogans" series – "Freedom is Slavery". Now I remember that one was actually Bull Connor surrounded by dogs and firehoses. Along with the naked Vietnamese girl fleeing the napalmed village ("War is Peace") and the painting of last week's Republican debate. ("Ignorance is Strength").

          The guy did so much stuff it's hard to keep track of what's what.

    • finallyhappy

      wow, Portland Riot police- I thought Portland was all foodie and naturey(Oregon- I know nothing about Portland Maine).

  • MzNicky

    "the complete evaporation of the vast reservoir of good will Obama had access to"

    I wouldn't call it complete. Some of us still have hope and good will toward Obammy. He's part of the problem, but at this point he could still be the best hope for the solution. Call me starry-eyed.

    • Limeylizzie

      I'm with you, I still have the hope.

    • vulpes82

      Yeah, I don't think Ken can wrap his head around us who don't hate Obama like he does.

      • DarwinianDemon

        My aunt no longer has to pay 108 dollars to get her cancer meds in pill form rather than IV because of the healthcare overhaul. No, it's not perfect, but you know what? It's something very important to her and to us. Multiple Myelome has a remission average of 5 years. So she doesn't have time to wait for single payer or a revolution. One reason I have a very low tolerance for people with the "THEYRE THE SAME!!!!" bullshit.

      • DarwinianDemon
    • SudsMcKenzie

      I cant wait until he is done with the last election of his life.

      • Negropolis

        That's what she (Hillary) said.

        Seriously, though, I'm disappointed with Obama, but then again I'm disappointed with most presidents. That said, in the chose between someone leading the drive to destroy the nationn (ANY Republican), and the dude or dudette that at least gives us the heads up that that is what he or she is doing — or at least the person that tells us or implies that he or she can't do much about it –, I'll take the latter every time.

        I tell you this, I'm far more hopeful than I'd have been otherwise, and Barry doesn't have much to do with that either way, or the office of the presidency, in general. You give me a president that won't start a conventional war, somewhere, a legislature that won't actively be looking to destroy the public sphere (that's gone for the time being), and a decent Supreme Court (lost that one, too, but it's been gone for years), and fuck it, y'all, I'll save America my damned self.

        Outside of warmongering and security, that office of the presidency doesn't mean shit, anymore…and maybe that's a good thing in the long-run.

        • DarwinianDemon

          Sometimes I get a little sad that being pragmatic does mean the soft mushy bits of my soul have hardened to a crust.

          I think being an asshole is a requirement to be pres. To be president, you have to say you are better than the other 300 million people out there, which kinda does take some hubris.

          When Roosevelt was president, my great grandparents rejoiced. At the time, Texas was going through forced repatriation…basically shipping the browns back across the border. They did this to my great grandma, despite the fact she was legal and all of her kids despite the fact that they were citizens. They forcibly drove her and her kids across the border to Mexico when my great grandfather was away on business and left them there. When Roosevelt won, he promised to end the practice…and he did…but he did not enforce the end of it because he didnt want to anger the southern states. When I asked my grandma, who loves FDR, why she wasnt pissed about that, she said that he ended it. It made me sad that her expectations were so low…but here I am today low expectations in hand.

          • snoopyfan2010

            Forced repatriation? They were sending the europeans back???

    • DarwinianDemon

      I'm to old to believe that in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny or convince myself the President Gore would have been the same as President Bush or that President Obama is the same as President Romney.

      • Nothingisamiss

        And that's true. Corporate soul or no, THEY ARE ALL THE SAME is still not true.

        Beautiful story of your family.

    • Callyson

      Seriously–those who are bitter about being disappointed about Obama must have been toddlers when Clinton was in office…and I won't even get started on severe depression and despair we felt when the Reeps were in the White House…

    • flamingpdog

      [Snark off ] In fairness to our overlord Ken Layne, I believe he has young chilluns. I'm not pissed at Obama and Congress and the Supreme Court because of me – I'll be soylent green before things really get midaeval in the US. It's my grandkids I'm worried for.

      • DarwinianDemon

        There's disappointment and then there's this. You can hold the idea that the U.S. should get involved in Libya. You can hold the idea that the U.S. should not get involved in Libya. But you cannot hold both and criticize Obama for both. Remember the post that suggested Cornell West was one of Obama's first and most ardent supporters and had given up on him. Anyone who followed the primary knew that wasn't true. Posts stating that Dems never pander to their base like Republicans do followed by posts complaining Obama is pandering to the Dems by essentially killing the Keystone pipeline. There is so much stuff to be disappointed about, WHY would anyone have to just…make stuff up?

        A few days ago there was a post saying that homeland security was behind the OWS crackdown. The author said it was confirmed in an AP article and then said "everything except the mention of homeland security". That's like having the headline "BIGFOOT FOUND IN YELLOWSTONE" and then saying "everything is confirmed in this article except the part about bigfoot". I wouldnt be shocked if "homeland security" was behind that shit…but it wasn't anywhere in the AP article that was linked as "confirmation"

        • io9k9s

          i thiink you may have gotten lost on the way to msnbc – anyway, it is ok to be hopeful all you want but just don't demand that those around you see the world the same way –

          • I think the demand is more for some intellectual consistency. For example, writing a post decrying Obama for looking the other way while Gadhaffi's troops slaughter Libyan rebels, and a few days later writing another post decrying Obama as a warmonger for sending warplanes to stop said slaughter, is inconsistent. Writing a post angrily denouncing Obama as a corporate tool who will approve the Keystone pipeline and enable the further environmental degradation of the earth, and then writing another post a few weeks later sneering that he only killed the pipeline to pander to his base so they will vote for him next year, is silly, since getting him to listen to his base was part of the point of protesting Keystone in the first place. It's sort of the mirror image of all those right wingers who oppose every idea Obama embraces simply because he embraced it, even if it's something they have in the past supported. People shouldn't get to have it both ways.

          • io9k9s

            I refuse to hold anyone up to the rigors of Intellectual Conisiency when they use the Dirty Sanchez, voluminous diarreah, and/or anusburger as descriptors for today's leaders who shape our most pressing political and social issues (into what mostly looks like this mornings floaters). That being said – perhaps our beloved overlord is spending just a tad too much time with the dearly departed (and maybe too far gone) Waggman? In any case the answer usually lies somewhere between moar trucknuts and austerity for the fetus jars. The end.

      • jaytingle

        I'm encouraged that, "before things really get midaeval [sic] in the US," we are going to have a buffer period that resembles- if not duplicates- the world depicted in Soylent Green (1973). That way I get a taste of humanity's ultimate degradation right before they get a taste of mine.

    • Dashboard_Jesus

      I'm with YOU MzNicky, I actually believe that President Hopey WANTS to do the right thing for all 'Merkans but he's got so many Repugnants and corporate whores up his ass it's 'hard work' trying to git 'er done…and I STILL think that if/ when he gets another 4 years then the gloves come off and Hopey starts swingin' like Cassius Fucking Clay and knocks the Boner and McTurtle back tot he last century! (my apologies fer not usin' his MOOSLIN name)

      • Negropolis

        I may have said this to you the other day, but what second term have you ever seen where the president "takes off the gloves?" I don't mind someone supporting the president, but if it's for that reason, it makes you look like a fool to be blunt. I'm embarrassed for you if you truly believe that. That's something someone says that knows absolutely nothing about history or politics. That's not how it works in America. It's never worked that way. I support this president's re-election, but this thought about "this time it'll be different" is straight-up delusional.

        • Dashboard_Jesus

          well my brotha, one can only HOPE (and what other choice do we have left?) btw, you can call me a 'fool' all you want but it IS time for a change and if anyone's gonna do it I DO believe Barry can and will if we support him…there's no way he can ever be as liberal/ progressive as I am, no hard feelings and I respect your perspective but I have more than a simplistic 'knowledge' of history/ politics and it does NOT matter at all what has happened in the past, the only reality is NOW! peace. out

          • Negropolis


            After I woke up, today, this post bothered me the rest of the day. I would like to specifically apologize to you for the name calling throughout that. This kind of belief system among some liberals is a pet peeve of mine, no doubt, but you didn't deserve to be directly called a fool, or have me condescendingly say that I feel embarrassed for you.

            However, with that out of the way, I will reiterate my point that to believe that somehow Obama's second term will be the magical term against the face of all kinds of history and understanding of how politics and the government works is foolish. I know you have "Jesus" in your name, and that implies belief in faith (i.e. belief without seeing), but this is politics. There is absolutely no evidence that second terms have ever produced a "taking off the gloves" moment, particularly post WWII. The past does matter; it's not the only thing that matters, but it does matter. This president, or any before him, have shown you absolutely nothing for your to believe that next time will be different. Some of us need to quit this abused spouse talk.

            I hope next time will be different. I don't see any reason to believe it will be. I support this man's presidency because he has and will for as long as he's in office slow our decline. People should be under no illusions about a possible second term, and I think folks like you are.

        • Sigh…yeah. In our latest real-life sample set, Clinton's 2nd term was when Glass-Steagal got repealed (ironic that it took a Dem admin to pull that one off), and joyously cheered on / signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which…ha ha, well, yeah. If it seems odd to you that we "bailed out" billions of invisible synthetic CDOs — and not, say, underlying mortgage principles — thank that.

          To go completely snarkless (and I'm replying here to D_J), just speaking re $ policy, there really is no gap of air between BO and the Repub positions on this. Don't think of Santorum's or Bachmann's or Cain's whatever-sounds-clever sound bites as the party line: Think of the modernized-Andrew-Mellon lines. The WSJ, the Robert Barrows, the Niall Fergusons. Fuck, even Boehner. BO has endorsed them all. That "stimulus" was half-tax-cuts, and half-just-making-up-for-lost-state-revenues. Any whiff of consideration that the gov't (our only spender left) needs to "rein back" is insanity. And he's granting that Hooveresque view Dem blessing. Which is, sickly, worse.

          • Negropolis

            I know you're only being rhetorical about the stimulus, but I would like for everyone to remember that the thing was exactly 55% tax cuts/tax incentives, and the other 45% was spending. Of the total package, only 6% of it went to infrastructure, you know, the one sector where if the stimulus had been structured correctly could have actually put a dent in unemployment, and one of those things he could have effectively fought the Republicans in Congress over given that they generally supported infrastructure reinvestment…until he became president.

            The only reason that stimulus "failed" is because let the damned thing fail by playing by their rules, and this was when he had both houses of Congress, no less, where he could have used that power to flip a few more votes for a better package that wouldn't have been sabotaged the day the legislature passed it. This brings up the main thing that disappoints me about him: I've never seen a president so willing and shockingly able to self-sabotage himself, to set himself up to fail. The Republicans actually killed that stimulus, but he brilliantly found a way to set it up so that when it didn't produced the results his administration had said it would that he was the one that ended up getting blamed for its failures. His talent and knack for self-sabotage is almost inhuman.

        • OneDollarJuana

          Exactly right. If anyone thinks that the 2012 campaign is a bit long at a year-and-a-half, just wait for the next Presidential election cycle, which starts Jan 20, 2013.

        • Chichikovovich

          You're forgetting that Clinton took off the gloves in his second term.

          No, wait. Sorry, those were his briefs.

    • snoopyfan2010

      "the complete evaporation of the vast reservoir of good will Obama had access to"

      Call me cynical, but the reservoir was NEVER vast, even from those who voted for him.

      • MzNicky

        Okay, Mr. Cynical, but I had a vast reservoir of good will for Obama. I still do, although it's somewhat diminished. The overwhelming relief of not only getting rid of Dubya, but also having elected the first black president ever, was astounding. I loved Aretha Franklin's inauguration hat. I loved the image of Jesse Jackson weeping. I loved Michelle Obama's JCrew mismatched outfits. Maybe you have to be an old hippie liberal who grew up in the South during the 50s and 60s, who has lived through not only eight years of fucking dipshit Dubya but also eight years of fucking dipshit Nixon and eight years of fucking dipshit Ronnie Ray-gun and all the other fuckers in between, while watching decent men and women like Eugene McCarthy, George McGovern, Shirley Chisholm, Geraldine Ferraro, and Jimmy Carter get the shit kicked out of 'em and ridiculed into oblivion. So yeah, I've still got a reserve of good will for Obama, dangnabbit, and I'll fucking campaign for him again next year, just like I've campaigned for every candidate for president who has ever come close to being my ideal for the past 40 fucking years. Tear it all down and show me a better way; I'm all ears.

        • snoopyfan2010

          Ahem…'s MS. Cynical if you don't mind. And please don't get excited on my account. I was just pointing out what I see as the truth. I wasn't saying that I don't have warm fuzzy feelings for Barry. I do. I just worry that the same old same old is the same old thing in this country. If you know what I mean. Bad habits don't change over night just because the younger generation has a moment of clarity. There is a reason The Arsenio Hall Show was cancelled when his show was still popular.

          • MzNicky

            Sorry. MsCynical.

      • Biff

        It's like my 401k was never vast, either, but it sure as hell has evaporated…

      • V572625694

        This gave me a lot of hope. Some of it's still left.

        ♪♫In the squares of the city, In the shadow of the steeple
        Near the relief office, I see my people.
        And some are grumblin' and some are wonderin'
        If this land's still made for you and me.♪♬

        • snoopyfan2010

          OK. Thanks for that. Good times….good times.

          • V572625694

            Us old folkies never get tired of Pete’n’Woody. At the inauguration Pete was 89, and still sprinted off the stage.

      • deleted7515412

        I didn't feel like I had a choice and had to vote against the greater evil in the last election.

        Why do I have that sinking feeling coming on again?

    • PuglyDoRight


    • BZ1

      Just look at the alternatives …

      • I've been looking at the alternatives in the streets across this country for the past couple of months, and they are looking damned good.

        • V572625694

          How can you be so cynical and so sentimental at the same time?

    • Chichikovovich

      I guess I'm lucky because I didn't really have that many illusions to begin with. I was proud to cast my first vote as an American citizen for an African American. I was overjoyed that the next president seemed almost sure to be an intelligent professor of constitutional law who spoke in clear sentences, after the previous eight years. I was, and remain, convinced that the appointment of another paleo-conservative with almost no paper trail (so as to give no traction in confirmation hearings), incubated in the Federalist Society basement would be catastrophic for all but the 1%. (Even if, or especially if, it were to be another superficially affable paleo-conservative like Roberts who had mastered the art of stealthily gutting the substance from a precedent without ever actually taking the controversial step of explicitly overturning it.) I was pretty sure that Obama would appoint excellent Supreme Court justices and he did. I felt that a tipping point was close in the civil service, beyond which there would be so many bug-eyed fanatical Liberty and Regent grads burrowed into career positions at Justice that the department would be rendered ineffectual as a tool for ensuring voting rights and civil rights for decades. And so on.

      But otherwise, listening to Obama's speeches, and taking them at face value, I figured that the Obama I heard would have counted as a moderate-to-conservative politician 20 years ago, and the fact that people at Fox could claim otherwise was just a function of how wildly far to the right the media and political discourse had swung. I figured we would get someone who was perhaps a couple of millimeters to the left of Clinton, and who wouldn't give the right wing as much ammunition through lack of personal self-restraint as Clinton did.

      And though I'm often disappointed that he seems overly credulous and docile when negotiating with Republicans, I think basically Obama is what I expected. I might have preferred to vote for FDR or Pierre Trudeau, but they weren't on the ballot.

  • EatsBabyDingos

    We would jam at Joe's garage
    We didn't have no dope or LSD
    But a coupla quarts of beer
    Would make it so the intonation
    Would not offend your ear

    One More Time (Wah Wah Wah Wah Waaaaah)

    • RadiosTyrone

      Let's be Frank.

      • flamingpdog

        Lemme see if I have this right – MzNicky wants to be called starry-eyed and you want you and EatsBabyDingos to be called Frank? Just change your names at IntenseDebate – Herring Burnit does it every other day.

        • One of you COMPLAINED, dintchu? Cause, lookit, I'm supposed to be WhoreMan_Cain't, but ID won't let me change the NAME and PIC at the same time.

          Which one a youse wuzzit?

          • RadiosTyrone

            We'll know you by your pee. Marking territory.

          • For a moment, there, I was all excited about my virtual territory-marking powers … and then I remembered my p-ness, and now I'm so depressed.

          • user-of-owls

            I remembered my p-ness, and now I'm so depressed.

            Because it is so large as to be gaudy, even unseemly? Cuz if you're whinging about an inadequate pee-pee, Ima have to cut a bitch.

          • Oh, wow, the ginormousness would hardly be depressing and thank you for that (smack!) backhanded compliment.

            No, I was all depressed because it hadn't occurred to me that my identity would always be given away by that little puke-green oval next to my Handle O'The Week, with its p-ness measuring powers.

          • RadiosTyrone

            Kree-Pee is your new avatar. The last one was just smug. Well, now that I think about it, Cain is creepy and smug. Don't you have a puppy pic or something? Tits or GTFO. How do you say that in Cuban?

          • Well, see, I had the new username picked out too, but ID won't let me change both at the same time. Must be a device for tracking users who like to play with their … wut?

          • I don't care if people change their names, I just wish ya'll would put your old ones in your bio. Sometimes it takes me weeks to catch on to your identity. Or is anonymity to the next degree the point? It's not like I'm going to come to your house …

  • MzNicky

    PS — No. No, I do not want better broadband, no matter how cunningly the corporately financed advertisement is done.

    • Well, maybe, if we get an ad pic with the CEO of Verizon deepthroating a cuke.

      • I think Gleem_McShineys is saving that experience for Cukert Murdoch.

      • MzNicky

        Exception noted!

  • nounverb911

    When does Shepard Fairey get sued by the producers of "V For Vendetta"?

    • Maybe not an issue, hasn't Moore disavowed the film and related imagery? That wizard's just a crazy old man.

      • BarackMyWorld

        And Warner Brothers (the multimedia conglomerate, not the ones with the Warner Sister, Dot) owns most of his more famous intellectual property, and are profitting off the Fawkes masks, so…

        Aw, we're just screwed.

  • coolhandnuke

    Fawk Bank of America the Fawking Fawk faced Fawkers

    • bureaucrap

      "Guy Fawkes"
      "Yes he does; Girl Fawkes too."

  • chascates

    I think the only way the change we want could happen is for the complete system to collapse so we can start over. Of course, I live in the country and am growing my own food.

    • Negropolis

      Speaking of collapse and starting all over, again, Detroit is one the cusp of that, movement. lol Folks can already live in the country and grow their own food in the middle of the city, and the city government is planned to collapse in April when it runs out of money and is taken over by the equally collapsed State of Michigan.

      Yeah, we are leading your future, America! Behold the ravages of age and not-so-benign neglect! USA! USA!

      • RadiosTyrone

        Are we going to have a lottery? Because that's what I'm counting on. Mega-millions baby, mega-millions.

      • We'll be keeping an eye on you to make sure you're safe. Exciting times we live in.

      • Guppy

        Yes, but Detroit always has the option to sell itself to OCP.

        • Negropolis

          America could always formally sell itself to China, which would basically be the same thing.

    • MzNicky

      Hey cool! We can all move in with you.

    • finallyhappy

      So you are like the old black lady in The Stand- and all of the good people can come to you?

  • plinkleton

    I hope I get a job at the Fukushima reactor

    • OneDollarJuana

      It's summer there all the time! At least, it's hot.

  • Shit, what's with the Nazi riot cops in PDX? What the fuck is the world coming to?

    • There are far *worse* pictures, just of the Portland cops in their junior Darth Vader getups. What this *country* has come to is a deliberate militarization of the urban police forces. It started in the "Drug War" years of the late '80s, when you could hardly get a neighborhood cop to get off his fat ass and walk around to meet the people, but it was easy to get a federal grant for a fucking helicopter. Language is important and intentional, and labeling everything a "war" has made it necessary (in the minds of people who think property crime is the biggest threat to their happiness and cheer the show "COPS") to create a militarized police force, a police force that is now having its long-awaited and well-trained-for moment to attack the citizenry.

      • V572625694

        Feds give 'em the money to buy all the cool toys. If you create a profession of gun-toting leather fetishists riding around sealed off in big gas-guzzling cars, it fills itself with the kind of people who enjoy that. If cops were redefined as social workers or–God help us–community activists, and rode on scooters and walked, you'd have a different kind of police force. BoA and other corporate overlords prefer the first model, so that's what we have.

  • AlterNewt

    Goodbye satire.

  • chascates

    And doesn't anyone realize that Guy Fawkes was horribly tortured and jumped from the scaffold, breaking his neck, to avoid the further horrors of his execution (hanged, then drawn and quartered)? The Attorney General at the time ordered
    …each of the condemned would be drawn backwards to his death, by a horse, his head near the ground. They were to be "put to death halfway between heaven and earth as unworthy of both". Their genitals would be cut off and burnt before their eyes, and their bowels and hearts removed. They would then be decapitated, and the dismembered parts of their bodies displayed so that they might become "prey for the fowls of the air".

    THAT'S something Michele Bachmann could get behind!

    • They were to be "put to death halfway between heaven and earth as unworthy of both". Their genitals would be cut off and burnt before their eyes, and their bowels and hearts removed. They would then be decapitated, and the dismembered parts of their bodies displayed so that they might become "prey for the fowls of the air"

      Sounds likes a damned country club!

    • This is America so no one cares or knows history, and perhaps only know the reboot version in V for Vendetta. In the moving pictures, tho…he dies, but…

      it is a victorious death where he succeeds with the help of that pretty chick who french kissed Mila Kunis in that Black Bird movie where everyone needs to eat a sandwich. It is all very sexy — including and ultimately the Guy Fawkes mask. Remember, remember, sex sells revolution everytime.

    • bumfug

      Bunch of wasted motion – whare's the profit in that?

    • OneDollarJuana

      "Their genitals would be cut off and burnt before their eyes". Small fire, in my case.

  • coolhandnuke

    When this Portland Police officer is asked by his grandkids " grampa what did you do during the second American Revolutionary War?" he can answer with pride "I saved an ATMs life."

  • Blueb4sunrise

    Remember the guys with the lime green pantiescounter-protest ……..

    Update from Salon

    • Shit, even the Mafia is laying people off these days!

      • Gunsel is as gunsel does.

    • flamingpdog

      ♫ You say Tabacco, I say Tobacco ♫.

      Both make me gag.

  • Guppy

    'Obama couldn’t even be bothered to change the Defense Secretary"

    Hey now, Gates wasn't half bad. Anybody who tells Congress "Fuck you, I ain't buying that airplane" gets props from me.

    • And as I recall, was absolutely opposed to any kind of intervention in Libya. Wonkette, as Darwinian Demon has pointed out, was for it before she was against it. Go figure.

      • Negropolis

        Libya should have been one of those interventions he should have probably been for, but yeah, it's kind of silly to use Gates as the example of what should have been changed out. But, when nothing would sate one's liberal bones short of making Cindy Sheehan the defense secretary, everything is going to be a disappointment. lol

        Now, if you want to make an example of an actually shitty change in leadership, how about moving Panetta to Defense and adding Patraeus as CIA director. Now, that's a really shitty –and dangerous, if you ask me — change for our democracy.

        • Oh totally. I can respect he was opposed to doing anything in Libya, even though I was on the opposite side. So weird to bring up Gates after all this time, when he actually was a somewhat moderating force in the Bush administration the last two years of W's term, oversaw the beginning of troop withdrawals, and assessed our defense budget as bloated. As opposed to Panetta, who was warning against budget cuts the minute the whole Super Committee-trigger thing was put in place this summer. It's like Ken was flailing for one more thing to be pissed about and landed on that.

    • Fukui_sanYesOta

      Totally agree. I thought Hopey showed balls by not just dumping everyone immediately, which would have been the expected move, instead keeping Gates who knew the situation on the ground in the two fucking wars we happened to be fighting at the time. Showed thoughtful leadership and a good stab at bipartisanship, I reckon.

      I'm just not buying into this Layne "he's just as bad as a Republican" schtick. God help us if one of these current crop of nutcases get in: we'll be vomiting with regret that Obama isn't around any more.

      • HistoriCat

        Gates? Meh – take him or leave him I say.

        Hopey should have cleaned house in the DOJ though. Those dipshit attorneys Bush installed are completely incompetent – they managed to fuck up the case against Ted Stevens so badly, it had to be withdrawn from the judge.

        And fucking Geithner needs to go. NOW.

    • comrad_darkness

      > I ain't buying that airplane" gets props from me.

      I see what you did there.

  • RadiosTyrone

    The Bush/Obama tax cuts are safe though…right? You can't raise taxes during a revolution.

  • If President Guy Fawkes is going to lead America in an attack on the Netherlands, count me in!

  • user-of-owls

    Icons do not get a second chance, whether in human or artistic forms.

    In other words, you can never go hope again.

    • flamingpdog

      Damn, FINALLY, an oblique literary reference on Wonkette that a literature illiterate like me can recognize!

    • Negropolis

      Either that, or Hope really is only a small town in Arkansas.

      • RadiosTyrone

        You know who else was from Arkansas?

        • user-of-owls

          J. William Fulbright? Johnny Cash? Pat Summerall?

          Cuz if you were thinking "Owls", you're all wet. I am not from Arkansas, I am in Arkansas. Veerrrryyyy different things.

          • RadiosTyrone

            Actually, I was thinking Gennifer Flowers.

  • HarryButtle

    I can remember when cops wore a pair of blue slacks, a shirt, and a fucking tie. When you dress 'em up like this, how can they help but become fascist stormtroopers?

    • sati_demise

      word they are all para-military now.

    • I've been on about that for years. No one cares, yet.

    • Negropolis

      The NYPD bragged on nationally televised news a few days before the 9/11 10-year anniversary that they had the capability to shoot a plane out of the sky. So, yeah, that kind of police force that actually used to be local is gone.

      • OneDollarJuana

        Maybe those 2nd Amendment boys have a point.

        • Negropolis

          We are way beyond the point where we could overthrow the government with the arms we have if we wanted to. Hell, that point was passed even before our governments achieved the atom bomb. It's why I laugh when I hear all of the paranoid militiamen talk about needing that amendmant to protect from the government. The only thing that stop them if that did happen would be their distate from killing their own citizens.

  • Buzz Feedback

    Guess old Barack was trying to tell us something when he made the President of the NY Fed the Treasury Secretary. Last man standing, btw.

  • vulpes82

    GAH! We're really never getting rid of the creepy Guy Fawkes masks now.

    • sati_demise

      teh suck

  • SudsMcKenzie

    Can the AP cant sue him for this one?

    • user-of-owls

      I don't know about that, but I do know that now you can cant edit your post.

  • Negropolis

    If the president doesn't offer his full-throated support of the movement, surely, he will have been morally weak. :)

    Anyway, take note of the moment when the Obama-HOPE poster guy threw his hat in with the #OWS movement.

    Dude, Shepard had thrown his hat in with #OWS before there even was a #OWS. Shepard was occupying our minds with his art before we even knew what a "Zuccotti Park" was. And, before anyone asks, no, a "Zuccotti Park" is not some strange, hippie sex act…unless you want it to be.

    • Eh, some people just need to defend hopelessness.

    • flamingpdog

      Isn't that a zuccotti Kortney has parked in her mouth?

      • Negropolis

        I think it may be when you and your partner hold an impassioned sexual General Assembly for a full two months, and have to be violently seperated by local law enforcement.

      • I know you're too busy studying Kortney's bazooms to tell, but it's probably more likely an English cucumber.

        • flamingpdog

          You know what else is bigger in England?

          • Courgettes. :)

          • Negropolis

            Every truly great American musician and singer? /elitism

    • RadiosTyrone

      According to Russ, the #OWS came from from the White House. Don't you libs get it? These smelly, rapist, arsonist, anti-capitalist, scum are the base of the Democratic party. Why don't they Occupy Congress? Those hard-working financial sector types are the real victims.

      • fishskicanoe

        Yes, thats the argument of my conservatard fishing buddy in a nut shell. When I tell him that changing one set of corporate owned politicians for another set of corporate owned politicians is just a diversion from attacking the thing that is the source of the problem… corporate money in politics… he tunes me out. To him capitalism is perfect,. Regulations are the cause of our problems by diluting capitalism's perfection with things like human needs and desires and community.

  • DustBowlBlues

    Yeah, yeah, yeah. We all know of your disappointment in Obama, but it's time to get really serious. Ken–Do you know what day it is? Are you going to share your cranberry relish recipe with all the new wonkette fans? And the old ones who can't remember where they put a certain piece of paper for safekeeping?

    • RadiosTyrone

      DBB, I'm making Num Tok for my co-workers on Puritan-Native American Day. Somes of us has to work and we hate turkey farts anyway.

    • Biff

      And speaking of The Cranberries, they're back!

  • Negropolis

    OT: Herman Cain is on Letterman. I hate that he's coming across so impressively in this medium. lol It's nothing but buzzwords and warmed-over corporate talking points, but boy is he personable.

    • MzNicky

      By "personable," do you mean "is prone to groping women and shoving their faces into his crotch, then afterward saying they are all lying bitches"?

    • BZ1

      Not when Letterman eviscerated him …

      • Negropolis

        Oh, Letterman wasn't taking anything the guy was selling. I'm not talking about whether his points made sense, they didn't. Again, warmed over corporate talking poitns and bullshit buzzwords. I'm talking solely his charisma.

  • Callyson

    Or maybe in this photograph of an American Cop showing what he truly works to Protect and Serve
    If you'll forgive some positive thinking, it's *possible* that the cop is trying to prevent people from using Skank of America's ATM, hence protecting them from the bank…

  • Snoop Dogg looks oddly bereft of sensuality in this pic.

  • sati_demise

    Word is that shares of Mace(tm), Pepper Spray ™ and para-military equipment manufacturers enjoy a rising tide on WallStreet

  • Natalie Portman's English accent sucked in that movie, didn't it?

    • flamingpdog

      Natalie Portman spoke in that movie? I didn't notice.

    • Negropolis

      As did her acting in all of the Star Wars prequels — which I blame more on George Lucas writing horrible dialogue (he really should have let someone else write the things) /nerd — but who cares? She's Natalie-effin'-Portman.

      • Guppy

        Her nipples spoke to me.

  • Mojopo

    David Letterman totally evaporated any credibility Herman Cain thought he may have had. It was glorious and and entertaining to see this evening.

  • Joshua Norton

    The main problem is that many Americans assumed Obama was a regular Dem and now realize that Barry and friends have pulled a fast one on them. Yet they're being told to go on believing that Obama has a secret agenda of being a super-duper progressive playing eleventy dimensional chess.

    If Obama wonders why people believe the worst about his “agenda”, maybe it would help if he would actually spell out what the hell that agenda is rather than spending all his time speechifying about how he’ll compromise and letting people just guess about it.

    • DrunkIrishman

      Blah, blah, blah, I like to type a lot of words.

    • Negropolis

      I always laugh at this idea that he "pulled a fast one" on anyone. This guy was the the right of Hillary on healthcare. He always had positioned himself straddling the interests of business and labor. Apart from the Iraq speech he made — which, BTW, he made when he was in a political position of little consequence — he never pretended to be anything other than your typical American as far as war is concerned. Honestly, the list goes on. The only people fooled were the people that wanted to be fooled. Obama has always been crystal clear about who and what he is. Hell, he even put it into writing. He says in Dreams of my Father, I think, that people have always projected unto him what they want to see in him. That's not his fault; that's their own damned faults. If people want to project demi-god status unto certain fully-human politician, than they are stupid as fuck. Sorry.

      Obama is your typical Democrat, or consummate politician, really. That is, a politician that may hold some very righteous and humane beliefs (and quite a few turkeys, too), but who has not the bravery to convert them to actual policy once earning a position of consequence. As a former academic, for instance, you can tell he has a very different idea of foreign policy than what he's been willing and able to implement. On domestic economics, though, I really do think he comes from the Chicago school, so I think his tepidness on the economy is actually kind of close to what he really believes.

      • MzNicky

        Those of us who supported Obama in 2008, and will still support him in 2012, knew from the get-go he wasn't a "liberal." He never said he was. In fact, he made it pretty clear that he was centrist. Yeah, that's what "liberal" is in this con-tard country of ours. The Overton window's been shoved so far to the right it's got hairline cracks. Time's long past to either shove it back toward the left or just smash the fucking thing to pieces already. I always enjoyed breaking glass myself.

    • We must be patient. The best thing about OWS is that it's bringing around a lot more people who otherwise would never be prepared to believe that the split is up-down, and not left-right.

      • MzNicky

        This is true. Social revolutions move at a glacier's pace. (Well, the pace at which glaciers used to move, before they all started melting.) Hell, we've been trying to get the damn Equal Rights Amendment passed in this country for 90 fucking years! Baby steps my ass. I'm ready for some giant leaps.

      • I'm in my fifth decade and every day may be my last. What exactly should I, or anyone else, be "patient" for? The sea levels rising over Zuccotti Park and Santa Monica? 10 billion people having resource wars over fresh water and grain while Goldman Sachs entertains the G8 leaders on a floating fortress? I don't like those movies, and don't intend to live out my days in one.

  • sati_demise

    Democrats & Republicans – two sides of the same coin.

    • Nothingisamiss

      Not so much.

    • fishskicanoe

      The problem with that argument is that you have to ignore that, in Wisconsin for example, it was the Republicans who fought to limit access to voting, give more power to polluters and large property owners and limit labor rights, and it was the Democrats who opposed them. What can be said is that they are both capitalist parties. But capitalism isn't just the Milton Friedmanesque horror show that it has become in the last 35 years. There are actually pretty large variations in capitalist thought (if you can call it thinking) some of which don't depend on the oppression of labor and the denuding of the planet.

    • lulzmonger

      True … too bad for America it's Harvey Dent's two-headed half-burnt coin.

      "Heads, you live. Tails … YOU DIE."

      Best 2 out of 3?

      • sati_demise

        word. spot on. exactly right.

        The system has to change. Even if we managed to form a third party, the system would eventually corrupt them too, human nature and all…

  • datateday

    Hah! If you don't look closely enough, that Big Brother-themed porcelain doll looks like he's holding a yellow parrot with a black beak, wings, and talon!

  • I hesitate to bring this up, but didn't we-someone recently post something decrying the GF image as, shit, um, historically-thematically-oh-goddamn-it-something-unrelated to the intent-goals-spirit of this more modern incarnation?

    • Mojopo
    • Yep, the Fawkes thing is hack work. That's *one* reason why this guy is years off from any "zeitgeist." You don't see these dumb masks on the actual #OWS non-organizers, or on the vast majority of protesters, and certainly not in any occupy-related art beyond the dispatches from Anonymous, which uses the mask as a logo.

      What people like Bat Signal organizer/poet Mark Read are showing is very encouraging for everyone sitting around saying "uh I'm too old/dull to do something crucial now." He's 45. David Graeber, the radical economist who wrote "Debt: The First 5,000 Years" and helped organized the original #OWS occupation, is 50. This demographic — I'm in there too — is actually the biggest demographic in America now, as the Baby Boomers start dropping off. We're the ones who suffered through Reagan, Clinton, 9/11, Bush Jr., 30 years of *awfulness*.

  • Off-topic 21st century cognitive dissonance: I don't watch Jay Leno, but I noticed on the TV scheduler thing that Tom Morello was going to be his musical guest tonight. Tom Morello? Gotta see that.

    So I tuned in toward the end of the hour and who is his talky guest but our adorable Megs McCabe, sportin' some fine black lace stockings obviously designed to divert attention from her usual blathering. Then Tom came on, using NBC to promote his latest song collection, playing his Arm the Homeless guitar and wearing a Red Army cap. Public relations! At his side was Ben Harper, dressed in what appeared to be a Rough Riders outfit, playing pedal steel. They sang, "I will whisper words of freedom, I'll swing hard as I can. Save the hammer for the man …" Would that be one of them Ruskie hammers? I was seriously hoping the curtains would part and NBC studios would be occupied, but no such luck.

    When they were finished Megs came forward and shook Tom's hand (it didn't fall off). I'll bet she claims to love Rage Against the Machine. Jay bleated, "Great song, boys," with his usual man o' the people insincerity. I'm wondering how many hysterical tweets and E-mails NBC will get about arming the homeless.

    • Jeebus, Morello and Megs, on Leno? My brain hurts. At the same time? My brain hurts, is what I meant to say.

  • How does BoA man exist without the kevlar, garden hose attachment, and fartbag?

  • CrunchyKnee

    Bush Jr. Jr. is doing what his owners want him to do. It's all about the 1%. Hopefully Obammy will be the last, but I doubt it. But, what the hell do I know? Pizza and history for all.

  • lochnessmonster

    When does Darth Vader show up? We have the Storm Troopers!

  • Nothingisamiss

    Ken Layne, although I have more hope than you, I love you.

    • I have *tremendous* hope right now. Love you too!

  • DukeManning

    Too bad the article doesn't point out Fairey rips off other artists and plagiarizes. He sells ideas by others as his own.

  • awwalk56

    The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know." JFK, 4/27/61. Wouldn't it be great if we heard Barry say something like this? Maybe he ought to just read it.

    • It would be great. Instead, Barry will probably say something about how "we need to be better about having a conversation that speaks to our better selves insofar as secrecy is against our traditions." And then go to a fundraiser with the CEO of Clorox or whatever.

      • awwalk56

        yep, with a 'moving forward'.

    • Negropolis

      With the irony being that JFK's short administration was one secret play after another. We don't have to like Barry, but I'm tired of this silly revisiont history on Jack. Jack and Barry are a lot alike…in the worst ways.

  • snoopyfan2010

    How does it go again? The intention was worth the effort, but the effort wasn't worth the intention.

  • Bluestatelibel

    Wow, Bank of America is REALLY making it hard for people to access their money nowadays, isn't it!?!?

  • rileywaggs

    Hope is not a Predator drone. Never has been, never will be. Sorry Bams!

  • sbj1964

    I blame Shitty-bank,and Skank of of America.

  • El Pinche

    Once again, it all goes back to Hick's Grassy Knoll bit.

    I still vote but my rule is to vote for the sock puppet who can do the least amount of damage.

    • sbj1964

      Thanks, that was funny I'm a Bill Hicks fan. But never saw that clip.The world is a sadder place without him.

      • El Pinche

        Glad to share it. I'm sure Bill is laughing his ass off in the 9th dimension looking through an event horizon prism.

  • PuglyDoRight

    Snark off, I do think Obama is a decent human being. I like how he treats his wife and children. I like that he didn't get where he is today because of a daddy with connections. I like that he was honest about smoking pot in college. I like that he doesn't shove his religion down my throat. It's not his fault that since day one the other side has been acting like he's in the White House illegitimately. It's not his fault that the GOP is rebeling against everything he proposes, even their own ideas, and want to tank the economy in order to win an election. It's worse than even the Clinton years.

    I do wish he had been doing the last 3 years what he's been doing the last 3 months, laying it out for the American people who the dicks in DC are.

    • +1

    • rustypolymath

      Bill Clinton, Jack Kennedy and Warren Harding were all pricks on a number of levels. Jimmy Carter, George W. Bush and Barak Obama have by all accounts been very faithful to their wives and at least two of these three have been "nice guys."

      But give me Clinton, Kennedy and Harding over the latter three ANY DAY.

  • When the Tea Party and OWS finally realize the problem isn't liberal/conservative or the President – the problem IS Congress, special interests, lobbying and Wall Street – Watch for the Revolution to begin….

    • Teabaggers lack the awareness and honesty to ever admit that. Besides, they fizzled out. Guess the Koch funding ran out.

    • BarackMyWorld

      Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen…you'll suffocate.

    • Negropolis

      I think the OWS has already realized this. Let's not equalize. The Tea Party recognizes the problem, but then willfully chooses the belief that it is government killing the private sector instead of the other way around.

  • One other point, last week in the NYT there was an article about Google's advanced tech labs and how they are working on a list of 100 far out projects. Deep in the article it mentioned how WALL STREET is really concerned about Google wasting money on developing new technologies that may not pan out. WTF??

    25 years ago, we had Bell Labs, GE Labs, RCA Labs, HP Labs all doing far out research. We had Xerox Parc which practically invented the PC. Where are they now? This country is sunk thanks to Wall Street and I wish this aspect of the problem would get more attention….

    Back to raking leaves!

    • Johnny, with all the Woketteers ranking political leaves, maybe we can have a nice bonfire?

      • RadiosTyrone

        Taking a break as well from the leaves.. Saturday afternoon on the Wonkettes is usually nappy time. But I'm in on the bonfire.

  • / snark off
    The riot poleeze special goodies & body armor we've loved seeing the coppers wear while pepper spraying the aged, infirmed, and preggers is not cheap. A quick on-line shopping check puts it at around $2,000 per officer minimum. Take that $2K times the oceans of such equipped officers we have seen @ #OWS coast to freakin' coast and we're talking serious money.

    Following Tip O'Neill's olde bromide "all politics is local" suggest all the readers of this blog put serious heat to the feet of you local city electeds who are bemoaning no monies and find out how many of your tax Ameros have be spent to convert your local police into Star Wars storm troopers.

    Kristallnacht is NOW, not in 3, 2, 1….

    • Rotundo_

      There's a reason that all that neat technology (sound weaponry, microwave beams that "only make it feel like you're burning") was developed, and it wasn't for overseas deployment. We paid good money to pay for our repression. We surely have reaped the whirlwind.

      • Proverbs 11:29:
        He that troubleth his own house shall inherit the wind:
        and the fool shall be servant to the wise of heart.

        And last year the voters clearly decided to send in the clownz.

  • How Iceland approached it's financial crisis – jailing bankers and rewriting their constitution to take control AWAY from the Financial Industry. Wonder why this gets no play in the US:

    • RadiosTyrone

      That's so much better than raking leaves.

  • BarackMyWorld

    I was going to defend Barry and say he's just picking his battles, but the only battle he seems willing to pick is his battle to keep his job. If he wasn't the only thing standing between us and a complete dismantling of the safety net and what little fairness there is left in the economy, I'd say "forget him."

  • lulzmonger

    Would've been a lot more impressive if he could've found a way to connect OWS to a reboot of his old "OBEY" stickers.

    Irony Wept.

  • Extemporanus

    Icons do not get a second chance, whether in human or artistic forms. So Fairey’s new poster with the sinister Guy Fawkes/Anonymous #OWS protester isn’t going to “change” anything for anyone. But it is a fitting symbol of the complete evaporation of the vast reservoir of good will Obama had access to, when he entered the White House just three years ago.

    I couldn't agree more, Ken.

    Because really, if a copy & paste appropriation of one's own already highly derivative work combined with that of a played-out multi-million dollar Halloween mask marketing campaign for a historically suspect figure ideologically ill-suited to this movement, made by a lazy, lying, technically masterful "street artist" (back when Herbert Walker was in office) and shameless self-promoter and big businessman who's made millions homogenizing and commodifying the visual identities of various important cultural movements and jacking artists and photographers — yet suing the shit out of them for copyright infringement if they even think of doing the same — is not a fitting symbol, than I don't know what the fuck is.

    Ken, I truly love you, man, and your decades-old, pre-hashtag passion for this cause. And truthfully, were it not for our Wonkette, I have no doubt that I would be at #OccupyDirtHoleInTheGround right now rather than sitting in my bathroom unleashing verbal diarrhea on my iPad.

    But please believe me when I say that Shepard Fairey is not the poster boy you, of all people, want symbolizing your support for the Ocupados.

    Then again, his dad's name is Strait Fairey (REALLY!), so maybe he ain't all bad.

    • Oxymacaroons for a just dessert?

  • jus_wonderin

    Yeah, where is that storm trooper when I need him standing behind me at 1:00 AM at the ATM???

  • PartyMarty

    I am sick to death with liberal "disappointment" in Obama. It's so hopelessly widespread, yet belies a stunning lack of perspective and ignorance of the administration's record.

    If Wonkette is going to turn into yet another malcontent-mill for liberal despair at a guy who has nonetheless been the most successful and accomplished progressive president in 50 years, then I'm officially done here.

    Enjoy your impotent grousing. Hope your principled idealism and towering outrage keep you warm during the Romney administration.

    • JerkCade

      Oh, man! When you put it that way, it all makes sense. I wish I'd settled for third-way neoliberalism years ago!

      It's probably my stunning lack of perspective that kept me in the dark this long. Thanks for turning me around and whatever you do please, PLEASE don't leave Wonkette!!!

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