WONKETTE ON THE STREETS  10:44 am November 18, 2011

99 Percenters Foil Cops With Amazing #OWS Bat Signal

by Kirsten Boyd Johnson


Your Wonkette had a chance to see the #OWS Bat Signal firsthand last night at the Day of Action protests on the Brooklyn Bridge — take a minute to watch the video. But even more awesomer than the Bat Signal is how it got there, thanks to a nice single mom living in the run-down projects located directly in front of the building of the monstrous union-busting Verizon overlords.

Boing Boing has the scoop on the bat signal story with an interview from the creator, Mark Read:

Mark Read: Opposite the Verizon building, there is a bunch of city housing. Subsidized, rent-controlled. There’s a lack of services, lights are out in the hallways, the housing feels like jails, like prisons. I walked around, and put up signs in there offering money to rent out an apartment for a few hours. I didn’t say much more. I received surprisingly few calls, and most of them seemed not quite fully there. But then I got one call from a sane person Her name was Denise Vega. She lived on the 16th floor. Single, working mom, mother of three.

I spoke with her on the phone, and a few days later went over and met her.

I told her what I wanted to do, and she was enthused. The more I described, the more excited she got.

Her parting words were, “let’s do this.”

She wouldn’t take my money. That was the day of the eviction of Zuccotti, the same day. And she’d been listening to the news all day, she saw everything that had happened.

“I can’t charge you money, this is for the people,” she said.

She was born in the projects. She opened up her home to us.

She was in there tonight with her 3 daughters, 2 sisters. The NYPD started snooping around down on the ground while the projections were up, it was clear where we were projecting from, and inside it was festive.

“If they want to come up they’re gonna need a warrant!,” her family was saying. “If they ask us, well, we don’t know what they are talking about!” They were really brave and cool.

Ha ha, the coppers failed, Denise Vega wins.

The scene in New York last night, in addition to many horrible arrests and the crying mothers getting beat up by police, was also pretty incredible. Despite a ridiculous maze of ever-shifting police barricades around Foley Square and police efforts to cut people off from the march, your Wonkette saw a diverse crowd of peaceful folks from every age range and ethnic background, aka “crazy violent hippie mobs who hate capitalism.” Our favorite was an adorable pair of old ladies in leopard-print hats yelling at the police, “Go arrest the 1%, it’s easier than arresting the 99%!” There were tons of families with their kids, CUNY students, union workers, and even doctors in lab coats carrying banners demanding better access to health care. All of them very patiently navigated the bottlenecks to cross the Brooklyn Bridge.

We liked this protest sign!

And here is a rousing little slice o’ life from the Brooklyn Bridge last night from your editor’s crappy cell phone, as motorists honked and cheered with the protesters crossing:

[Boing Boing]

 

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tihond November 18, 2011 at 10:47 am

Wayne Gretzky showed up wondering why they had activated the 99 signal.

horsedreamer_1 November 18, 2011 at 8:50 pm

He would, what, with his Marxist Medicine in Kanada.

Quayle2012_KNOT November 21, 2011 at 12:15 pm

Poor Wayne. He must have been crushed to learn the 9 and 9 signal is a tribute to NHL Hall of Famers Rocket Richard and Gordie Howe.

Barb November 18, 2011 at 10:48 am

Hey Verizon! Can you hear Denise Vega now?

memzilla November 18, 2011 at 10:52 am

Next up: finding a window across from Goldman's headquarters, and laser-tagging it with a "CRIMINALS ARE HERE —>" sign.

[Only because "Great Vampire Squid Wrapped Around the Face of Humanity, Relentlessly Jamming Its Blood Funnel into Anything That Smells Like Money" would be too long.]

Baconzgood November 18, 2011 at 10:52 am

“I can’t charge you money, this is for the people,” are words you'll never hear from BOA.

Limeylizzie November 18, 2011 at 10:52 am

Yikes, I now have a large bag full of knitted items , courtesy of your Wonkette ladies, Barb and myself, and I am not sure where to go to do the drop now that the Occupados are not in the park anymore…

slithytoves November 18, 2011 at 10:54 am

Homeless shelter?

Fare la Volpe November 18, 2011 at 10:57 am

Get your message sponsored on the bat signal.

FREE HATS, SCARVES, MITTENS
CALL LIZ AT 555-5555

Limeylizzie November 18, 2011 at 11:00 am

No mittens, they take too long and are too fiddly, but I knitted some cool cabled scarves , entrelac, and a couple of hoods, Barb just went insane with the amount of stuff she knitted.

Maman November 18, 2011 at 11:07 am

A skill I wish I had. Good deal ladies!

prommie November 18, 2011 at 11:15 am

I just have to tell you this story about scarves. I wear scarves, all the time, and it seems to be a problem, believe it or not. My scarves have caused me to become completely, totally isolated and alienated from all my co-workers. They do not wear scarves. They appear to buy all their clothing from the marked-down rack at K-Mart, but thats another story. They do not wear scarves, and they clearly disapprove. I have been doing this for years, and still they cluck their tongues when they see me approaching, wearing my scarves. And its not like the scarves are acrylic, either. The poor souls, they are so timid and narrow. Another true story, 3 of them, all in their 50s, had chinese food for the first time, just a few years ago, when another guy at worked managed to talk them into trying it for lunch one day. Chinese food, scarves, their world is full of scary and exotic mysteries.

Limeylizzie November 18, 2011 at 11:19 am

If you were mine, I would knit you wondrous scarves, big squishy cables, soft and beautiful wools from Alpacas, these people would envy your sartorial splendour.

SorosBot November 18, 2011 at 11:40 am

How the hell could someone live 50 years in America without eating Chinese? Christ, these people have probably never had pizza either.

Or are they Italian? I've known quite a few Italian-Americans who refuse to eat any non-Italian food, and they're actually proud of their willful idiocy.

GOPCrusher November 18, 2011 at 12:08 pm

I have a scarf that I've owned for 25+ years that I still wear. It's amazing the looks I get when I put it on.

V572625694 November 18, 2011 at 12:22 pm

Like so many other things, it all started with this guy. Real men call them "mufflers" of course.

DaRooster November 18, 2011 at 11:16 am

New band name-
FIDDLY MITTENS!!

(or perhaps Romney's new nickname)

Not_So_Much November 18, 2011 at 11:55 am

Nice. 'Floppity Mittens' doesn't have the same feel to it.

memzilla November 18, 2011 at 11:00 am

I suggest calling the National Lawyers Guild 212 number and asking: http://www.nlg.org/occupy.

Limeylizzie November 18, 2011 at 11:05 am

I will do that and hope those smarty-pants lawyers don't laugh at me.

memzilla November 18, 2011 at 11:12 am

Plz let us know either way.

Limeylizzie November 18, 2011 at 11:20 am

No answer from them just a recording, probably too busy bailing out those who were arrested yesterday.

slithytoves November 18, 2011 at 10:52 am

Bat signals! The new social media! Take that Twitter!

freakishlywrong November 18, 2011 at 10:52 am

Holy fascist police state, Batman!

smitallica November 18, 2011 at 10:52 am

TAKE BACK THE UGLIEST BUILDING IN NEW YORK!!

bureaucrap November 18, 2011 at 11:07 am

do we have to? Can't we take back the woolwoorth or the chrysler building instead?

weejee November 18, 2011 at 11:22 am

The Chrysler Building for the art deco-dence.

Lascauxcaveman November 18, 2011 at 12:10 pm

A lovely building, but a lousy projection screen. Ugly plain buildings have their purpose.

V572625694 November 18, 2011 at 12:23 pm

They also make the shrubs people hide them with serve a useful purpose. The whole profession of landscape architecture was created to hide "real" architects' mistakes.

nounverb911 November 18, 2011 at 10:53 am

Needs more bat guano.

poncho_pilot November 18, 2011 at 12:21 pm

yeah, but you'll have to answer to the coca-cola company.

chascates November 18, 2011 at 10:54 am

Denise Vega, you are awesome!

horsedreamer_1 November 18, 2011 at 8:51 pm

She lives on the 16th floor. She lives upstairs from you. Yes, I think you've seen her before.

Oblios_Cap November 18, 2011 at 10:54 am

The O'bama / Goldman Sucks sign is da bomb!

Bonzos_Bed_Time November 18, 2011 at 12:50 pm

Unfortunately….

DetectiveGrey November 18, 2011 at 10:54 am

Because they're the heroes America deserves, but not the ones it needs right now. So we'll hunt them because they can take it. Because they're not our heroes. They're a silent majority, peaceful protesters.

Monsieur_Grumpe November 18, 2011 at 10:55 am

And everything was spelled correctly.

Oblios_Cap November 18, 2011 at 10:57 am

And they didn't use hover rounds. They're not TeaTards.

proudgrampa November 18, 2011 at 11:08 am

It really is hard to take a written message seriously when it's misspelled. Probably why the "morans" are losing…

Monsieur_Grumpe November 18, 2011 at 11:27 am

This is just another example of how smart and creative the #OWS people are especially when compared to the Teaparty clan. The human microphone is brilliant,.

Toomush_Infer November 18, 2011 at 12:02 pm

The morans are losing? Are you sure? Seems to me we're just in the first act of Idiocracy…

proudgrampa November 18, 2011 at 1:01 pm

Well, maybe there is a bit of wishful thinking on my part, but I do like the way that the Republicans are exposing themselves through these endless debates. They are showing that they have no ideas, or contradict themselves week to week.

Familiarity breeds contempt.

fitley November 18, 2011 at 11:20 am

Watch the TeaChoads try to copy this by projecting a Swastika… and accidentily burning the building down.

Not_So_Much November 18, 2011 at 11:57 am

Because of all that liberal, elite, commie education that the, uh, unemployed drug addict hippies seem to have.

Oblios_Cap November 18, 2011 at 10:56 am

“If they want to come up they’re gonna need a warrant!,”

Apparently, the NYPD doesn't recognize those pesky "rights" and "laws". I'm surprised that they didn't burn the building down.

prommie November 18, 2011 at 11:17 am

You're thinking of the Philadelphia police.

Oblios_Cap November 18, 2011 at 11:23 am

The have CORE values in Philly! And it's always sunny there.

Oblios_Cap November 18, 2011 at 11:26 am

oops. that was MOVE…

Negropolis November 19, 2011 at 2:49 am

Our go all Philly on her ass and drop a bomb on it.

MzNicky November 18, 2011 at 10:56 am

This is … almost frighteningly amazing.

SayItWithWookies November 18, 2011 at 10:58 am

Oh, those filthy violent drug-addled hippies who want to destroy America — it's amazing how a little creativity and carbon-community networking can get around the police state, isn't it?

Chillwaver November 18, 2011 at 10:59 am

"Quick, to the battard mobile!"

Fare la Volpe November 18, 2011 at 11:00 am

The Revolution will not be televised…it will be Bat Signaled!

LiveToServeYa November 18, 2011 at 11:01 am

I can't hear the audio on that video over the sound of its awesomeness.

EatsBabyDingos November 18, 2011 at 11:01 am

I thought "99" was Rick Perry's partial answer to what he disagrees with in Cain's plan. "99…I disagree with 9, uh 9, and uh…I can't remember the other one."

jus_wonderin November 18, 2011 at 1:43 pm

You forgot the "Ooops".

SorosBot November 18, 2011 at 11:03 am

I wonder how Bloomberg is going to justify to New Yorkers why he wasted so much of the city's money and police resources to illegally arrest peaceful, lawful protesters, not to mention the huge payouts for unlawful arrests and civil rights violations the city's gonna have give out for all the lawsuits of the storm troopers' victims.

EatsBabyDingos November 18, 2011 at 11:04 am

Ask Chuck Ramsey how that worked out in DC a few years ago.

SorosBot November 18, 2011 at 11:18 am

Philly had to pay out millions after many unlawful arrests during the 2000 Republican convention; luckily we've got a different mayor and police chief now and the cops have been basically peaceful, unlike New York, Oakland, Portland, etc.

Fare la Volpe November 18, 2011 at 11:05 am

"Na-nana-poopoo, stick your head in doodoo"?

PhilippePetain November 18, 2011 at 12:53 pm

Honestly, no shit, here, most of the working class people I've talked to are blaming the protesters for overtime paid out to cops, as if the protesters should know, expect and ultimately deserve this kind of treatment. "Hey, they should have known that jackbooted thugs would need to be paid overtime for kicking them in the face. Stop whining!"

I just keep seeing so many reasons to think that, no, people will not get on board with this no matter how much sense it makes, because it upsets their genteel upper class senses, event though they're not upper class. The greatest trick the rich ever pulled is to make the working class expect that they would one day be a part of and should defend the upper class and their sensibilities.

Sorry. Rant over.

catchtheflava November 18, 2011 at 7:47 pm

Re: overtime, last I checked, these guys can ramp up their wages with it and then claim their pension based on their year with highest earnings.

Meanwhile, Bloomberg wants to weasel the city out of a defined benefit pension plan.

The waste, fraud, and abuse that his administration has occasioned in its psychotic over-reaction to this is disturbing and embarrassing.

skoalrebel November 18, 2011 at 11:03 am

Fuck this shit! [spit] Batman was obviously a 1% guy. Lives in a fuckin' mansion. Has a gay lover named Robin [spit] Got a creepy "servant" named Alfred. I bet Bruce Wayne made all his money selling complex derivatives to old ladies.

Fare la Volpe November 18, 2011 at 11:05 am

Worse: he inherited it all.

SorosBot November 18, 2011 at 11:13 am

Though that doesn't mean he'd necessarily side with the 1%; I mean, Green Arrow also has a great amount of inherited wealth, and he's a bleeding-heart liberal who spent most of it to fix up Star City and was its liberal mayor for a time. Batman's own politics have never been clear (except he was written by Frank Miller, there he's a straight-up fascist like Miller himself).

JerkCade November 18, 2011 at 11:36 am

NERD!

Fare la Volpe November 18, 2011 at 11:47 am

Keep in mind, I adore Batman, but I'll let Reginald D Hunter make my point for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&annot

Negropolis November 19, 2011 at 2:52 am

But, but, Bruce Wayne and Batman hated all of those rich motherfuckers who believed their shit didn't stink, and regularly handed their asses to them when they got out of line destroying the city for their personal and ill-gotten gains.

Fuckin' Batman libel, dude!

Joshua Norton November 18, 2011 at 11:03 am

$10 says Macy's steals the idea to advertise "Black Friday" sales.

poncho_pilot November 18, 2011 at 12:29 pm

recuperation. happens. every. time. but hey, that's how these innovative* business folks come up with their new ideas**.

*too boring, stupid, or scared to create anything of their own.
**old ideas stolen and marketed to death.

PhilippePetain November 18, 2011 at 12:55 pm

For the 99% off sale?

OccupytheDashboard November 18, 2011 at 11:04 am

“If they want to come up they’re gonna need a warrant!,”

I just home Bloomy doesn't get a hard-on for some retaliation. "Oh…it looks like you're 30 seconds late with your rent. Here's your eviction notice."

anniegetyerfun November 18, 2011 at 12:01 pm

I'm just delighted that there are people left in the world who know that police need a warrant. It's amazing how many folks will submit to searches without question.

OccupytheDashboard November 18, 2011 at 12:14 pm

I have a friend who has a door mat that reads: "Welcome: Now come back with a warrant"

WeHaveIssues November 18, 2011 at 3:40 pm

The 1% doesn't soil themselves with the poors. She is in a very safe place (in that regard only perhaps). Counting down until she is in the interview chair with Keith Olbermann…4-3-2-1

freakishlywrong November 18, 2011 at 11:04 am

I watched the whole thing, twice. If you can't agree with that message you are a serious sociopath. Well done!

donner_froh November 18, 2011 at 11:07 am

“I can’t charge you money, this is for the people,” said the person with very little money
"I would charge you money to breathe if I could" said both the Koch brothers.

Beowoof November 18, 2011 at 11:07 am

Technology win for the hippies. Thank you to Denise Vega.

ifthethunderdontgetya November 18, 2011 at 11:09 am

Not only does Goldman love Obama, the NYT loves FAUX Nooze.

Both of our political parties are corrupt, and our media is no better.

OWS is all we've got.
~

johnnyzhivago November 18, 2011 at 11:10 am

With no other option, Bloomberg then ordered police to blow up the Verizon building.

That is some serious projection equipment!

Smitros November 18, 2011 at 11:10 am

Next stop, Battery Park City.

proudgrampa November 18, 2011 at 11:10 am

Very impressive.

BlueStateLibel November 18, 2011 at 11:13 am

"And the meek shall inherit the earth …and project awesome bat signals that piss off the 1%!"

chicken_thief November 18, 2011 at 11:13 am

"Ha ha, the coppers failed, Denise Vega wins."

I think we win, thanks to Vega.

johnnyzhivago November 18, 2011 at 11:16 am

In all seriousness, that is really clever… Personally, this kind of "information" skirmishing is a million times more effective than interfering with people going to work. It's 2011, I mean there must be other incredibly creative ideas to get messages across to large numbers of people….

Ruhe November 18, 2011 at 12:16 pm

How about a blimp?

poncho_pilot November 18, 2011 at 12:31 pm

Venga Bus?

Bonzos_Bed_Time November 18, 2011 at 12:52 pm

O'Brien/Paul 2012!

Redhead November 18, 2011 at 11:20 am

Okay, it was cool until it got to the "We are winning" part, over and over and over… Now I have Charlie Sheen's voice stuck in my head. Thanks a lot.

mercianomad November 18, 2011 at 11:23 am

I dunno. Bruce Wayne is pretty 1%ish. Superman would be better, I think…oh, doh! He works for the mainstream media, same with Peter Parker and Billy Batson. Wonder Woman's alter ego is in military intelligence. Hrmm… Wonder Twins and Aquaman, maybe?

Toomush_Infer November 18, 2011 at 12:14 pm

Yeah, and how about the Silver Surfer, or should I say, the Silver Serfer…

SorosBot November 18, 2011 at 12:18 pm

How about Captain America, he's an old-school liberal (so much so that Reagan fired him and replaced him with a right-winger for a time) and has always sided with the little guys, standing up to the military-industrial complex as represented by Iron Man in the Civil War.

Baconzgood November 18, 2011 at 11:27 am

Any relation to Suzanne?

Nesnora November 18, 2011 at 11:29 am

When I did projection bombing in Providence, the rumor was that it was legal as long as it wasn't projected on a logo or advertisement (billboard)… we used a wacom tablet to draw all over the buildings. It was a real problem trying to find anyone to "host" our electricity in any sort of building though because the laws were kind of unclear to everyone.

I ended up hooking a converter to my car battery and mounting the projector on the roof when we parked. When we projected on the state capital building we were escorted off the property. The cops really didn't know what to say, but they just sort of ushered us out and it seemed they weren't clear whether what we were doing was legal or not, even though one of them chuckled and wanted to draw with the tablet himself. Good times.

SorosBot November 18, 2011 at 11:41 am

Of course, right now the NYPD doesn't seem to care whether a protester is actually doing something illegal or not before arresting them.

donner_froh November 18, 2011 at 1:42 pm

Of course, right now the NYPD doesn't seem to care whether a protester is actually doing something illegal or not before arresting them.

Or hitting them with a baton, spraying them with pepper spray or just beating the hell out of them.

Biel_ze_Bubba November 18, 2011 at 12:12 pm

A bottle of 18-year-old single malt says Bloomie's scurrying minions will come up with a city regulation that was violated. Failure to have the required city permit (and pay the fee) for projecting messages in public, or maybe failure to pay a tax on "advertising". They'll find something.

barto November 18, 2011 at 11:31 am

I nominate Denise Vega for the Medal of Honor – that will really give Boehner something to cry about!

KeepFnThatChicken November 18, 2011 at 11:40 am

Plain old optics in a fiber optic world… amazing what this uncanny human creature can do.

acidqueen5426 November 18, 2011 at 11:49 am

10 Quatloos sez that building gets bought by Verizon and demolished.

actor212 November 18, 2011 at 11:53 am

It would have been cooler if her name was Barbara Gordon

Lascauxcaveman November 18, 2011 at 12:22 pm

Heh. I've been watching some old Batman episodes on the local rerun channel. My 11-year-old thinks it's "dumb." But it's worth it, watching batgirl scampering about in that leotard.

BarackMyWorld November 18, 2011 at 12:55 pm

You're both right. I especially love the "Star Trek" episode where she played an Orion slave girl. Total nerd porn.

Dok-cupy Everything November 18, 2011 at 12:02 pm

OT, but not by much: So today's my sort-of last day* at my temp reception-desk job at the county Family Court office, where I help people calculate child support and work through the paperwork in their divorce and child custody cases. There's a lot of desperation out there, a lot of people seeking changes in child support because they've lost their jobs, a lot of divorces of soldiers, marines, and airmen coming off deployment. Our office helps people who are filing on a pro se basis, and it's not terribly unusual for them to be up against a spouse who both hates their guts and can afford a lawyer…and that is where some of the saddest stories come from. Not that poverty is ennobling or anything; there are plenty of people whose roots for a lifetime of screwups go back a few generations, and there are some parental horror stories out there that one of the social workers describes as "raised by wolves" cases–families so dysfunctional that feral kids might have a better chance at turning out well-adjusted. (And of course there are also plenty of cases of people who have both money AND seriously dreadful relationships…)

On the whole, working here has made me appreciate how sanely my ex and I get along, and how glad I am that we've done everything possible to be both divorced and decent parents. I also am convinced that humanity should give serious thought to ending procreation, die out, and let some other organism have a shot at evolving intelligence.

*Funding cuts, you know. I'll get two more weeks in December, but things are really slow in Family Court around the holidays, when people are busy generating the family troubles that eventually show up here…

V572625694 November 18, 2011 at 12:28 pm

Good luck.

poncho_pilot November 18, 2011 at 12:37 pm

"…when people are busy generating the family troubles that eventually show up here…"

job creation! anyway, i can't even imagine doing a job like yours. i'd be oscillating between crying jags and wanting to punch someone in the face so fast i'd be tearfully punching people in the face all day. how do you do it?

Dok-cupy Everything November 18, 2011 at 12:45 pm

Being a natural misanthropist helps a lot.

fredbell November 18, 2011 at 12:10 pm

The "Bat-Signal" angle to this just adds to the fun …Remember the incompetent NYC police of that 1960s show would use the bat-signal because they were so incompetent they needed the help of two guys with a computer in a cave…

ttommyunger November 18, 2011 at 12:14 pm

Truly innovative and intelligent, as opposed to mere racist smears and three-corner hats…Yes, I'm talking about you, Koch-Suchers.

Millennial Malaise November 18, 2011 at 12:22 pm

Hmm, what's this watery substance clouding my eyeballs? Unlike Speaker Boner, crying doesn't come so naturally to me, but reading about Denise Vega just made my grinchy heart grow a few percentage points.

outragedcitizen November 20, 2011 at 1:14 pm

OMG, me too. And I'm a 65 year old man! Denise Vega deserves the Metal of Freedom!

owhatever November 18, 2011 at 12:57 pm

Sir, I hate to report this, but the rabble are clever.

hunnybee November 18, 2011 at 1:32 pm

i hope they changed her name. there is a good chance she could be evicted.

EmiliePeacock November 18, 2011 at 2:45 pm

Evicted? For having company?

Soylent Green November 18, 2011 at 2:25 pm

absolutely bitchin'!

bomble November 19, 2011 at 1:24 am

Eh, not really. Turk 182 did a much better job. However, they kept repeating the names of the cities they are occupying (Cleveland, San Fran) maybe to exaggerate their influence, which is minimal.

Soylent Green November 18, 2011 at 5:12 pm

awwww – i wanna bat signal…

fuflans November 18, 2011 at 9:03 pm

The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls

fucking '60s. they never go away.

datateday November 19, 2011 at 12:36 am

I thought that projection was the most amazing thing I've ever seen in a while. It must've been powerful to make it all the way up there and be so large and all…

Negropolis November 19, 2011 at 2:56 am

My god, the peasants are revolting!

beavis420 November 19, 2011 at 8:31 am

The audio track of that video gave it this awesomely ominous vibe. And when the "Do Not Be Afraid / Love" came on, I nearly started crying like a happy scared adult baby.

Geminisunmars November 18, 2011 at 11:28 am

How can one become yours?

prommie November 18, 2011 at 11:29 am

I think they would more envy my scarf-knitter, if I were yours.

Nesnora November 18, 2011 at 11:35 am

ooo I don't know how to knit but I like picking out the guard hairs (I think that's what they're called) from the alpaca wool my aunt weaves with for her.

memzilla November 18, 2011 at 11:29 am

From http://www.occupywallst.org, try their contact info: email: general@occupywallst.org | help line: +1 (516) 708-4777.

prommie November 18, 2011 at 11:30 am

I am a smarty-pants lawyer, and I laugh at you all the time. When you are being funny intentionally, of course.

Limeylizzie November 18, 2011 at 11:34 am

Blushes .

Limeylizzie November 18, 2011 at 11:38 am

They are indeed called guard hairs.

Limeylizzie November 18, 2011 at 11:40 am

I feel with most lawyers it would be derision.

Limeylizzie November 18, 2011 at 11:41 am

I do tend to adopt waifs and strays, human and animal, it's fairly easy to become mine in the grand scheme of things.

prommie November 18, 2011 at 11:55 am

But why? Lawyers are no intellectuals, its a trade, like plumbing, easily learned by rote. Noone flunks out of law school, you know. If I were a better actor, I would be a much better lawyer, cleverness is really not the most valuable trait. The ability to lie convincingly, and to cause people to FEEL what you want them to feel, thats more important.

DaRooster November 18, 2011 at 11:58 am

That's what she said…

Limeylizzie November 18, 2011 at 12:02 pm

I must have low self-esteem then, because I am filthy with degrees but they are in the humanities and always feel as if my step-daughter,a lawyer who works in the public defender's office in LA, thinks I'm not as smart as she is, of course that could be because I married her father who is 20 years older than I am. maybe she thinks I'm a gold-digger.

Lascauxcaveman November 18, 2011 at 12:09 pm

It's possible your proximity in age makes her uncomfortable, too. A sort of twisted sibling rivalry.

prommie November 18, 2011 at 12:26 pm

Shakespeare is much harder than law, so is Joyce. It is nothing but reading closely, discerning meanings and intentions in difficult texts, and writing and explaining the same clearly and accurately.

BerkeleyBear November 18, 2011 at 1:01 pm

It cuts multiple ways, LL. I've been in academic settings where the PhDs all look askance at anyone with a mere JD, since I didn't have to waste several years writing a dissertation (I just chose to spend several years writing a bunch of law review articles instead, and not for any money or a degree). Colleges don't even consider it a "terminal degree" for eligibility for faculty positions in most disciplines.

But lawyers are generally full of themselves, especially the more successful ones. Prommie's right, it is like sales and most other business endeavors – the arrogance kinda comes with the territory, and only gets worse the higher up the food chain you get.

prommie November 18, 2011 at 12:26 pm

Its mostly drinking, truth be told.

Geminisunmars November 18, 2011 at 12:47 pm

Can I be your Denver waif?

prommie November 18, 2011 at 1:53 pm

I'm not a waif, but I am an oddball and an outcast. Nobody understands me, LimeyLizzie, nobody but you!

BerkeleyBear November 18, 2011 at 12:52 pm

Hey now! Don't let the cat out of the bag (or in this case let the cat see into the bag).

Limeylizzie November 18, 2011 at 1:07 pm

Of course you can! I have a waif who is currently incarcerated, a truly lovely, smart, charismatic young man who is from the mean streets of Harlem, I used to see him every day on my way to the gym and we struck up a friendship because he has a very cool Jack Russell and then one day he disappeared, I found out he had been caught buying drugs from an undercover cop, so I tracked him down and now we are penpals!

Limeylizzie November 18, 2011 at 1:08 pm

Of course the lawyers of the Wonkette are a different breed.

prommie November 18, 2011 at 1:23 pm

Don't worry, I said nothing of the frantic, random, drunken, instantly-regretted hookups.

prommie November 18, 2011 at 1:34 pm

Underachiever, and proud of it. Law is like a kind of "lego" scholarship. Every brief is a dissertation, but the material has all been pre-digested and indexed and analyzed for you and sliced into index-card sized paragraphs, and you just go to the sources and select a point from column A and another point from column B and you cite to the authorities, without ever having to have taken in the whole body of work in the field, you know what I mean? Its like writing research papers using only encyclopediae as sources.

jus_wonderin November 18, 2011 at 1:41 pm

Damn, and here I sit with only a degree in Education. I missed out.

prommie November 18, 2011 at 1:51 pm

Nope, they are just rural Pennsylvania protestant white-bread to an alarming, amazing degree. Dwight Schrutes. Truly, honestly, 50 years, never ate chinese. I bring in curries, they wrinkle their noses and tut-tut, as they do at the scarves.

Limeylizzie November 18, 2011 at 2:10 pm

Oh Prommie, the only good people are oddballs and outcasts. Everyone has been one or other of those things in their life, well except Mitt Romney.

BerkeleyBear November 18, 2011 at 2:26 pm

ehh, you didn't miss much – there weren't many hookups at my school. Then again, I got married before law school and my first child was born at the start of my third year (with the same woman I had married, just to be clear) so I may not be the right one to comment on them.

Geminisunmars November 18, 2011 at 2:49 pm

I would love to be your penpal, if I knew how. I don't have a Jack Russell but a chocolate lab and a shitsu. (They are darling when sleeping snuggled together.) And, alas, I am more brickshithouse than waif.

Limeylizzie November 18, 2011 at 3:08 pm

Wonkette is like a whole world of penpals, isn't it?

Geminisunmars November 18, 2011 at 3:27 pm

Have you ever acted in Denver. I'm married to a theatre producer (retired).

Limeylizzie November 18, 2011 at 3:37 pm

No, I haven't, I did audition for something that Denver Theatre Center was doing a couple of years ago, but the audition was in NYC ,I have never been to Denver at all.

Geminisunmars November 18, 2011 at 3:47 pm

Well, keep trying. Also Arvada Center holds lots of auditions in NYC and LA. Perhaps our paths will cross someday.

Limeylizzie November 18, 2011 at 3:50 pm

I think they do mainly musicals and I am a straight theatre gal.

Geminisunmars November 18, 2011 at 4:20 pm

True. Although once in a while a straight one will slip in. Arvada now also has a nice Black Box where we recently saw Athol Fugard's “The Road to Mecca” which was outstanding. An equity production from Creede.There are lots of good smaller theatres around these parts too, but only a few can take Equity. Curious Theater is one. Brand new Lone Tree, gorgeous space, is another.

comrad_darkness November 18, 2011 at 5:03 pm

Thus proving the point that lawyers like having loose ends tied up.

Biel_ze_Bubba November 19, 2011 at 3:46 pm

I know such people. Never mind the Chinese food — many have never gottem up the nerve to try spaghetti.

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