OCCUPY POVERTY  2:17 pm November 11, 2011

Random Gang Shooting Near Occupy Oakland Causes News Coverage of Random Gang Shooting In Oakland

by Ken Layne

Did you hear some dude got capped in downtown Oakland the other day, and died? This happens a lot in the poor parts of Oakland, and elsewhere in the United States. But, thanks to the unrelated Occupy protest/camp currently occupying the grim downtown of Oak-Town, this gun killing got coverage all over the country. The Authorities are even using it as an excuse to shut down #Occupy Oakland! You know, because there is apparently gang violence in this nation of 50 million poor people and Zero Hope and a billion guns.

The San Jose Mercury News reports:

There’s been no significant change in the number of tents on Frank H. Ogawa Plaza, despite Mayor Jean Quan’s plea for the campers to leave on their own in the wake of Thursday night’s violence. The man was shot and killed at about 5 p.m., Thursday just yards from the entrance to the Occupy Oakland encampment, apparently after a fight with other men.

The killing, which came as hundreds of occupiers prepared to celebrate the camp’s one-month anniversary, prompted Quan to call for the campers “to leave voluntarily tonight.”

The violence occurred on the same day as UC Berkeley police defended their crackdown on Occupy Cal. Oakland City Council president Larry Reid condemned the shooting and said it was yet more proof that the tent city needed to be dismantled. “We can no longer continue to sit back,” he said. “This has raised the red flag even more.”

Uhh, so there was a red flag raised somewhere (but not all the way?) about poverty and gun violence in this country, and now it’s raised “even more,” so the people protesting inequality and injustice should be evicted? Makes sense to us! [San Jose Mercury News]

 

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chicken_thief November 11, 2011 at 2:26 pm

The red flag was raised from 10 to 11-11-11.

nounverb911 November 11, 2011 at 2:28 pm

“This has raised the red flag even more.”
We sold Oakland to the Chinese?

Beowoof November 11, 2011 at 2:37 pm

I think we still owe the Chinese for the bridge to get there, so it seems fair.

horsedreamer_1 November 13, 2011 at 8:35 pm

Tough luck, Oaktown: no more foodstamps.

CarnyTrash November 11, 2011 at 2:29 pm

I've worked in downtown Oakland for 10 years. This is SOP in these parts.

Ken Layne November 11, 2011 at 2:44 pm

That is kind of the entire point of this post.

berkeleyfarm November 11, 2011 at 7:00 pm

Yeah, I've heard of it happening at 14th and Broadway (Occupado-land) more than once. Once it was someone came off a bus (*), popped a cap in someone, and tried to get back on the bus.

* for out-of-towners: this is a major transit hub because it feeds into BART.

SorosBot November 11, 2011 at 2:32 pm

It makes about as much sense as calling the Occupy Wall Street protests "violent" because some police have used violence against protesters.

weejee November 11, 2011 at 2:43 pm

But Soros, obvs there woulda been no police violence if those filthy #OWS hippies hadn't been out protesting. The cops woulda be peacefully eating donuts instead of shooting rubber bullets at the #OWSs. This is like the guy telling the judge there woulda been no domestic violence incident if his wife hadn't insisted on repeatedly putting her face in the way of his fist.

Herring_Burnit November 11, 2011 at 4:35 pm

Yes. That's exactly what it's like.

Bitch wouldn'a got a blackeye if she wasn't fuckin' asking for it.

GOPCrusher November 11, 2011 at 5:43 pm

True story, saw a Yahoo comment this AM that stated that this is proof that the OWS protesters are about to turn violent and that the police and National Guard need to set loose and use any means necessary to break up the protesters.

Callyson November 11, 2011 at 2:33 pm

the Oakland Police Officers Association joined the chorus with an open letter to the campers, asking them to "leave Frank Ogawa Plaza peacefully and immediately so Oakland police can get back to work fighting the devastating crime that's occurring in our neighborhoods."
Sgt. Dom Arotzarena, OPOA president, said the letter was sent out mainly because of Thursday's violence.
"In light of yesterday's violence, enough is enough. What more needs to happen? We would like to see the protesters leave peacefully," Arotzarena said.
Quick fix:
the American people joined the chorus with an open letter to the 1%, asking them to "leave Wall Street peacefully and immediately so Main Street can get back to work fighting the devastating economic collapse that's occurring in our neighborhoods."
"In light of today's violent economy, enough is enough. What more needs to happen? We would like to see the reckless speculators leave peacefully"
/done

SorosBot November 11, 2011 at 2:37 pm

Or the Oakland police can just go back to work fighting the crime in their neighborhoods anyway, since the protesters aren't doing anything illegal and the cops have no need to be there.

Fred_Wertham_Jr November 11, 2011 at 2:55 pm

Or they can just go back to shooting their own undercover guys.

BlueStateLibel November 11, 2011 at 3:00 pm

I look forward to the day when we can tell the 1% to peacefully and immediately leave the entire country.

Sparky_McGruff November 12, 2011 at 12:55 pm

I'll admit — the peacefully part seems kind of anti-climactic. It might be nice to see a few beatdowns of the Biffs and Buffys of the world before it all winds down. Just so they know what it's like to be on the other end of the stick for once.

Gleem_McShineys November 11, 2011 at 5:10 pm

the Oakland Police Officers Association joined the chorus with an open letter to the campers, asking them to "leave Frank Ogawa Plaza peacefully and immediately because the Oakland police suffering from a form of tennis elbow, from swinging their nightsticks so much. Also, how will we fight devastating crime occurring in our neighborhoods, when shooting people in the face becomes nothing special anymore to our officers?"

/red flag fix'd

TitsOccupado November 13, 2011 at 3:47 pm

Like the abusing spouse that screams "LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!" to the battered spouse, (usually the wife).
Fuck me.

edgydrifter November 11, 2011 at 2:33 pm

Bulldozing tent villages solves gang violence? Shit–it's so simple! Why didn't we think of this in the '80s? I'll bet if we'd napalmed a couple concerts at Red Rocks back then there wouldn't even be Crips or Bloods today.

Dok-cupy Everything November 14, 2011 at 1:29 pm

It worked great for Douglas MacArthur in 1932

CliveWarren November 11, 2011 at 2:33 pm

Typical drive-by media…

ifthethunderdontgetya November 11, 2011 at 2:36 pm

Ladles and Jellyspoons, Free Speech™ is not free.

Your local too-big-to-fail bank will be happy to provide you with the necessary loan.

Loan modifications to your Free Speech™ may be applied without your knowledge or consent, as permitted by the paid-off powers that be.
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weejee November 11, 2011 at 2:37 pm

Tent cities are the problem? Well then, let's nuke some Boy & Girl Scout Camps.

Ken Layne November 11, 2011 at 2:45 pm

They don't do much camping these days. But there's a merit badge for "blogging." (Not kidding at all.)

DaRooster November 11, 2011 at 2:58 pm

*sob*

ifthethunderdontgetya November 11, 2011 at 3:05 pm

I was a Boy Scout!

I got merit badges for Canoeing and Reptile Study.
~

flamingpdog November 12, 2011 at 1:37 am

Well, that last one certainly should help you in understanding Wall Street behavior.

not that Dewey November 11, 2011 at 3:15 pm

And "finance"

weejee November 11, 2011 at 3:39 pm

We're 10 years after and then some on our four libtarded Eagles, so things do change. I don't miss igloo camping on Mt. Rainier one bit. Nope, not one bit, but the oldest, who's pulling 40 now still goes snowshoe camping on the Cascade Crest in the dead of winter.

Crank_Tango November 11, 2011 at 6:59 pm

meh, lemme know when there is a badge for "warblogging."

horsedreamer_1 November 13, 2011 at 8:39 pm

They did have one, but its only recipient, Jack Steuf, saw his revoked over the Papa John's Down's n' Out Special fiasco.

HateMachine November 12, 2011 at 11:08 am

Well, the computer science or whatever badge I got in my stint didn't teach any practical skills anyway, so at least now it's teaching something they can at least pretend is a practical skill.

Biff November 13, 2011 at 3:50 pm

The fuck?

Lionel[redacted]Esq November 11, 2011 at 2:39 pm

Gang Violence, in Oakland? What's next. Drug sales?

DaRooster November 11, 2011 at 2:58 pm

Fuckin OWS!

GuanoFaucet November 11, 2011 at 2:39 pm

Um, so, I was 4 BLOCKS! from the Oakland shooting. So maybe it was a bit inappropriate to post about this so soon.

Ken Layne November 11, 2011 at 2:46 pm

Somewhere (Newell's couch), Jim Newell's google news alert is beeping.

GuanoFaucet November 11, 2011 at 3:09 pm

Exactly, it's like a ginger bat signal.

Chichikovovich November 11, 2011 at 3:36 pm

Uhuh. Four blocks. And you have an alibi witness I hope? You wouldn't be the notorious "Batshit – G" would you, Mr. GuanoFaucet. If that is your real name.

Lionel[redacted]Esq November 11, 2011 at 2:40 pm

I've been busy, but has FOX News blamed the riots at Penn State on the Joe Pa branch of OWS yet?

Herring_Burnit November 11, 2011 at 4:38 pm

Actually, they've been claiming that the whole football scandal was due to OWS. I'm still trying to figure out herp derp herpderp.

DoktorThompson November 11, 2011 at 8:00 pm

#OccupyUnderageAsshole was back in the 90s for the Penn State coaching staff.

edgydrifter November 11, 2011 at 2:41 pm

Sending Patton to burn out the Bonus Army encampment in DC is what crushed the mafia once and for all, isn't it? I'm sure this will work equally well.

Chichikovovich November 11, 2011 at 3:37 pm

Quite the contrary. It killed the Irish mobs, which gave Lucky Luciano his chance to take control.

BarackMyWorld November 11, 2011 at 4:37 pm

It'd be ironic if something like that happened at MacArthur Park.

Biff November 13, 2011 at 3:53 pm

I don't think that I could take it.

SexySmurf November 11, 2011 at 2:42 pm

The protesters need to leave so the police can go back to doing their regular job of ignoring brown people getting killed. Now, because of the coverage, they have to act like they actually give a rat's crap.

Negropolis November 12, 2011 at 12:33 am

…doing their regular job of ignoring brown people getting killed.

Or doing the dirty work, themselves. They definitely aren't above it. Neither is BART, apparently…

Beowoof November 11, 2011 at 2:43 pm

The red flag that has been raised by the Occupy movement is that the American public, not the most astute crowd on the planet, has finally started to realize that the top 1% is screwing them with no lube. Which of course requires immediate reaction from the the 1%'s lackey's and brown shirts to the threat to getting an even a bigger pile of money.
Next thing you know every crack head and meth addict will be labeled as a OWS participant. The usual suspects are already making this claim http://www.theblaze.com/stories/increasingly-deba….
http://www.observer.com/2011/10/new-york-post-dee

SorosBot November 11, 2011 at 2:53 pm

Sex and drugs? What's next, those filthy hippies playing some of that negro rock and/or roll music?

Goonemeritus November 11, 2011 at 2:48 pm

The NRA has been strangely silent on this OWS “related” story wouldn’t a typical response be something like; if those protestors were armed maybe they could have..blah blah blah.

sati_demise November 11, 2011 at 11:42 pm

Of course this is in Phoenix, open carry at OccupyPhoenix:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0HNr2Y7B5c&fe

AmericanBeauty November 14, 2011 at 11:05 pm

Teabaggers were packing second amendment heat but the MSM NEVER brought up potential violence, nor pegged violent crimes occurring in the neighborhood of their idiotic protests on them.

CliveWarren November 11, 2011 at 2:52 pm

I've also heard that there is serious fraud, embezzelment and immoral banking activity happening in the immidiate vicinity of the Occupy Wall Street protests… Time to lock up those tent-dwelling white-collar criminals in the park.

McRibzgood November 11, 2011 at 3:08 pm

A shooting in downtown Oakland? Whoda thunk it.

SexySmurf November 11, 2011 at 3:10 pm

Slightly O/T: Occupy LEGO Land complete with LEGO drum circle!

McRibzgood November 11, 2011 at 3:11 pm

If we need to go in violently to stop this unrelated violence we will!

-Larry Reid-

Sharkey November 11, 2011 at 3:45 pm

Nice try, Mayor Quan. Is that the best you could come up with?

BarackMyWorld November 11, 2011 at 4:31 pm

Are some of the Occupy Oakland protesters Muslim?
Because then this would warrant the rare Wingnut Trifecta Freakout.

berkeleyfarm November 11, 2011 at 7:02 pm

I wouldn't be surprised. We have a substantial local population.

johnnyzhivago November 11, 2011 at 5:02 pm

You gottta keep'em sep-ar-ated.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jOk8dk-qaU

Callyson November 11, 2011 at 5:08 pm

Also, from HuffyPo:
The Occupy Wall Street demonstrations are "as American as apple pie," former Secretary of State Colin Powell said… "What you're seeing with Occupy Wall Street and the others are people who are unhappy and they're directing their unhappiness now toward Wall Street and toward those they think are doing too well in our society."
Salute!

GOPCrusher November 11, 2011 at 5:49 pm

Colin Powell keeps it up, somebody is going to revoke his Republiklan membership and decoder ring.

WootInTarnation November 17, 2011 at 4:06 am

He does this every now and then. Speaks his mind and demonstrates that he actually understands the challenges and mis-steps of sloppily-conceived policy. He offers up intelligent, insightful criticisms and practical ideas on a well-conceived comprehensive plan to improve X situation.

Then he gets a phone call or something, disappears and holds his peace for another 3 years.

EatsBabyDingos November 11, 2011 at 5:09 pm

This happened at my house. Mom forgot to flush, so we took out her toilet. Now she doesn't have that problem anymore. Wait. Isn't it Spurious Analogy Day?

OneYieldRegular November 11, 2011 at 6:38 pm

Seems to me this is one of the best arguments in FAVOR of maintaining the OWS camp; were it not for OWS, no one would ever have to know or care about the community shooting itself to bits in an annual bloodbath that covers each entire year. Heck, maybe one of those reporters will even ask about HIV in Oakland.

chascates November 11, 2011 at 8:13 pm

This shooting is a godsend for the right. For the longest time the only thing they could come up with was public urination or rubbing feces on cars. I can't wait for each and ever potential GOP Presidential candidate to crow in unison that this behavior must end!

Rhyscurrency November 11, 2011 at 9:03 pm

Can downtown Oakland (which includes everything from Jack London Square to Uptown in the eyes of a visitor from outside our fair city) survive only on business from residents and downtown employees? I doubt it. We need destination eating, drinking, and entertainment (good luck with destination retail). Expecting visitors to analyze the geography and demographics of Oakland is a bit too much to ask–they just see a riot and reconsider.

ShaveTheWhales November 11, 2011 at 11:20 pm

Fucking correlation and causation, how do they work?

Of course, at this point they don't even have correlation, just a data point.

sati_demise November 11, 2011 at 11:52 pm

The right wing would like to brand the Occupy camps as full of lice, TB, new scary lung diseases, sexual assaults, drug addiction, crazy people, hippies, et al, so other people will not go there to explore what it is about.
Guess who else was demonized in this way?

Negropolis November 12, 2011 at 12:19 am

Psst. I saw Sarah Goode dancing with the devil in the pale moonlight. Pass it on.

the Oakland Police Officers Association joined the chorus with an open letter to the campers, asking them to "leave Frank Ogawa Plaza peacefully and immediately so Oakland police can get back to work fighting the devastating crime that's occurring in our neighborhoods."

Here's a peace of advice: why don't you get back to fighting actual devasting crime in the neighborhoods, then?

Fuck this shit. OWS doesn't need a babysitter; obviously the police do. Grow the fuck up, already. You're acting like petulant children.

Negropolis November 12, 2011 at 12:38 am

Hey, Mayor Jeanquan, the very last thing you want to do is to fuck with the protestors, again. Obviously, you haven't learned your lessen. Y'all got recalls in Oakland? 'Cause if you do, mayhaps it's time to remind her that she serves at the pleasure of her constituents, and while Oakland may not be San Francisco, most urban citizens frown upon attacking peaceful protestors, ya' see?

gurukalehuru November 12, 2011 at 1:33 am

"Just yards from the entrance…" How many yards? Because just 857 yards, to choose a random number, is not that close at all.

Negropolis November 12, 2011 at 1:43 am

Yeah, are we talking "40 meters dash" close, or close as the "Ground Zero Mosque" is to the WTC site? lol

ttommyunger November 12, 2011 at 11:37 am

Also, one of my dogs just farted. I have decided in the best interests of clean air I must stop feeding them from this day forward. FIXED!

chascates November 12, 2011 at 1:24 pm

Today's Drudge hedes on the Occupy Apocalypse:
DEATH, DISEASE PLAGUE 'OCCUPY' PROTESTS…
Dead man in Salt Lake City…
Tuberculosis in Atlanta…
'Zuccotti Lung' on Wall Street…
Suicide in Vermont…
Murder in Oakland…

friendlyskies November 12, 2011 at 7:32 pm

Oh I know, I check Drudge every morning just to find out the day's anti-Occupy talking points. That TB in Atlanta slide is the kind of slacker excuse for psyops that Allen Dulles would have rewarded with a quick trip to Eastern Europe carrying only a parachute, cyanide pill and orders to kill Stalin.

The homeless people are letting Occupy ATL stay at the biggest shelter in Georgia, which is being foreclosed on to build a parking lot. Shockingly, TB was discovered here – before Occupy ATL even moved in. And of course it is present in poor/homeless communities all over the USA thanks in part to our sacred, American, for-profit healthcare system. No one covered the "homeless man has TB" story two months ago, when it happened. But now that these communist anarchist liberal art majors are in the mix, MY GOD CONSUMPTION.

horsedreamer_1 November 13, 2011 at 8:41 pm

Commence the bombing runs over Oglethorpe, Morehouse, and the Georgia Tech College Dems immediately.

Dok-cupy Everything November 14, 2011 at 1:31 pm

Yeah, this does remind me of another protest that was put down by force

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