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Geezers Charged With Terror Plot Inspired By Fox News ‘Expert’

Everyone enjoying their news media?The Year of Rage is moving along nicely: The four elderly Georgia men arrested for their alleged plot to kill a bunch of federal employees and simultaneously attack a half-dozen cities with poison and some other Rage Batman stuff were all inspired by a Fox News personality’s insanely inspirational novel about killing all the evil gubmint peoples. One interesting thing about mass worldwide insurrections is that all points on the ideological spectrum are eventually represented, which is exactly what we’re seeing in the three-year era (so far) that future alien historians will refer to as “The End of These Goddamned People.”

ABC News reports today:

Four senior citizens will appear in front of a federal judge in Georgia today after telling undercover informants about plans to attack federal buildings with explosives and a biological toxin.

The men named in the charging documents, Frederick Thomas, 73, of Cleveland, Ga., and Toccoa, Ga., residents Dan Roberts, 67, Ray H. Adams, 65, and Samuel J. Crump, 68, were all members of a fringe militia organization, according to investigators.

They called themselves “the covert group,” and met several times throughout the year to discuss killing federal employees with rifles, explosives and ricin, a dangerous toxin that can be extracted from castor bean seeds using acetone and lye.

The four geezers, all reportedly retired from government agencies or contractors including the U.S. Navy, the USDA and the Centers for Disease Control, allegedly dreamed up their terror spree as a “bucket list,” meaning a list of fun things to do in the last years of life. But what inspired the apparently well-behaved Southern Old Folk? Oh, some shitty book about people killing their government leaders, the standard paperback “patriot fiction” that also inspired Timothy McVeigh. But this time, the “paperback” was an “online novel.” So, futuristic?

Fox News reported on the arrests too, with a wink and a nod, but the Fox News announcers decided not to mention that the author of the terror fiction is a constant presence on Fox News, where he serves as an “expert” to talk about how Obama is a criminal.

Media Matters has this update:

Fox News is now actively concealing a link between an Alabama-based blogger repeatedly featured on the network as an expert and allegations of a domestic terrorist plot. This morning on America’s Newsroom, Fox News ran an extensive report on yesterday’s arrest of four Georgia men accused of plotting an attack on federal employees and U.S. citizens using explosives, guns, and the biological toxin ricin. At the end of the segment, correspondent Jonathan Serrie pointed out that one of the defendants “allegedly cited the online novel Absolved, which discusses small groups of citizens attacking U.S. officials,” with the defendant allegedly “saying that the attacks would be based on events in that novel.”

[...]

But Fox’s report neglected to mention the allegedly inspirational novel’s author, who is no stranger to Fox viewers. Indeed, the author, Mike Vanderboegh, has been mainstreamed by the network, which has repeatedly featured him as an expert on the ATF’s failed Operation Fast and Furious. Fox has identified Vanderboegh as an “online journalist” and an “authority on the Fast and Furious investigation,” and has consistently failed to acknowledge his extremist views, actions, and affiliations.

Haha, remember when “online journalist” was an insult? (It still is.)

Anyway, the old dudez were reportedly trying to make ricin, and then spreading it on the interstates we guess, and then assassinating a lot of state and federal government officials, and also killing a bunch of corporate CEOs, and all kinds of stuff that fits right in with the General Insanity of the times. They are supposedly part of a secret militia called “The Covert” or something. And now the FBI is saying they sure don’t want to get in the way of anyone’s personal beliefs about wanting to kill the government and the corporates, but when it gets to the point of actually trying to do it, there are arrests and then Fox News acts like it hasn’t created this whole scene. [AJC/Media Matters/ABC News]

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164 comments

    1. Not_So_Much

      I have no way of proving that the secret plans for this Oceans 11-like plot are not hidden in Roger Ailes ass. Probably safest to send a team in there to check.

    1. BaldarTFlagass

      I didn't see that movie, was "prison food and ass raping" on Nicholson & Freeman's Bucket List too?

    1. chicken_thief

      I wonder if it rhymes with "overt" or "Colbert"? If the latter, I see much finger pointing headed Comedy Central's way….

  1. Terry

    "The four geezers, all reportedly retired from government agencies or contractors including the U.S. Navy, the USDA and the Centers for Disease Control, "

    In the CDC's defense, the one guy was a maintenance man there, not a biochemist or geneticist.

    1. Chichikovovich

      It would ward off this sort of misunderstanding if news agencies would just refer to it by its full name "Centers for Disease Control and Mopping up the Revolting Crap we Spill on the Floor" (CDCMRCSF). But in these days of McJournalism it's all about the soundbite.

    2. WhatTheHeck

      That's one hellva Bucket list of things to do for told men with no brain.
      Maybe their pants were hiked way too far north for southern comfort.

    3. Dashboard_Jesus

      well OF COURSE the anti-govt morons just happen to be assholes who sucked off the govt tit their entire life…for some reason Repigs don't know the meaning f the word *hypocrisy*)

    4. oldmayfly

      Right, Terry. And I read that the guy didn't work directly for the Center for Disease Control, but was employed by a private company providing building maintenance for the CDC.

  2. x111e7thst

    Note to other covert groups: that friendly guy offering you all the stuff you need to make your insane dream come true is not really your friend.

  3. Gratuitous World

    federal salaries -> federal benefits -> federal prison

    these old timers are part of their own problem and could've saved everyone the trouble by drinking ricin-taited Metamucil in a suicide pact we all could cheer.

    1. Chichikovovich

      Goddammit! And my tax dollars will go to supplying them with the steak and lobster that they'll buy with the scrip they get for making license plates!

      1. WunkRocker

        Farking too old to have any useful organs too. This is like the Japanese olds volunteering to clean up Fukushima, only the complete farking opposite of that.

  4. BaldarTFlagass

    I thought the idea of George Burns, Art Carney, and Lee Strasberg robbing a bank was a cute premise in that movie "Going in Style." This, not so much.

  5. Lionel[redacted]Esq

    But if FOX News had to reveal all of their experts extreme views, where would there be time to blame Obama for everything?

  6. DahBoner

    "…were all inspired by a Fox News personality’s insanely inspirational novel about killing all the evil gubmint peoples."

    The FED calls this policy "jawboning"…

    1. Generation[redacted]

      Now I'm picturing the gun sight camera footage from collateral murder, but with an arrow and text saying, "This is Sean Hannity."

      I bet Fox News wouldn't be quite as gung-ho if it was one of their reporters.

  7. memzilla

    The phrase "Alleged 'news organization' Faux News…." also has a nice, radical-fringy edge to it.

  8. Poindexter718

    Hilarious that these geriatric jihadis all used to work for the government and are all now pissed off at it. I'll never forget at a recent family wedding listening to a retired school teacher, a state trooper on disability and retired government accountant sitting around bitching about Obama "raising their taxes," which he obviously hasn't. Alas, sometimes it's better to bite your tongue and head back to the open bar…

    1. Tundra Grifter

      "…a state trooper on disability…" is redundant. Here in California an astonishing number of highway patrol officers retire on work-related disability.

      Driving a car down the highway really takes it out of one. Apparently.

      1. DaRooster

        Well… it will screw up your back. In my delivery days I suffered… but my chiropractor had me move my wallet and it helps… (tips to the CHP)

      2. HistoriCat

        Here in California an astonishing number of highway patrol officers retire on work-related disability.

        So is that why Erik Estrada doesn't work much these days?

        1. OccupytheDashboard

          In the 70's epic MIDWAY :::cue dramatic music::: he played a Mexican American named "Chilibean" and he always scratched his head when the Japs were near.

          I wish I was making this up.

        2. DaRooster

          My favorite episode of CHiPs… as it is the only thing I remember from a show I never watched and being from Mendo County-
          Ponch and John walk into party and Ponch says, "Smells like a Mendocino County brush fire in here."

    2. fuflans

      see, but i head back to the bar and then come right back out with an inflammatory comment and then everyone tells me to quit drinking.

      1. BarryOPotter

        …everyone tells me to quit drinking

        Gawd, I hear that everyday, morning to night, and I'm sick of it! Idont'haveaprolemyoudoo!!!!

      2. Chet Kincaid

        Yes, fuflans, the problem is obviously YOUR DRINKING, not the uninformed, partisan ranting and raving of old people who were told in their youth not to discuss politics and religion when other folks are trying to have a good time.

    3. McRibzgood

      "Alas, sometimes it's better to bite your tongue and head back to the open bar"

      Alas, it's better to stay at the open bar

      FIXED

    4. Fox n Fiends

      Its safe to assume that most Teabaggers have long sucked from the teat of the taxpayer. And will continue to do so until they are 100 years old, sadly.

  9. coolhandnuke

    …The men named in the charging documents, Frederick Thomas, 73, of Cleveland, Ga., and Toccoa, Ga., residents Dan Roberts, 67, Ray H. Adams, 65, and Samuel J. Crump, 68,…
    With such fine saltine names as these, would it merit, or be redundant to even mention the lack of pigment in their respective skin.

    1. memzilla

      You would have to fair and balanced about it, and note that their targeted cities — Washington, Atlanta, New Orleans, Jacksonville, and Newark — are mostly populated by people with an abundance of pigment in their skin.

  10. MaxNeanderthal

    Angry old white anger bears are feeling grumpy….. Those cranky prostates sure get you ratty…

  11. Lionel[redacted]Esq

    Stop being so cynical. I'm sure FOX News will get to the full story on this as soon as they finish with their extensive coverage of the various Newscorp scandals.

  12. BornInATrailer

    If only they had taken their inspiration from Beck and O'Reilly, they would have just called up federal employees and talked dirty about gold.

  13. Tundra Grifter

    Once again – remember the Department of Homeland Security report about the danger of domestic terrorists (and that doesn't mean just a pissed off housekeeper).

    Over the past few years, as the economy cratered, the right wing nutz have raised the level of fear, the GNoP cries about taking our country back, the number of incidents has kept growing.

    The dots are becoming clusters. They are connecting themselves…

  14. NickDanger007

    Hmm, if only we could convince these plotters that Fox is the enemy. I light up with joy at the idea of them planting ricin at Murdock's HQ. And hear him scream for help from the feds.

  15. flamingpdog

    ♫ We started singin’,
    "Bye-bye, Miss American Pie."
    Drove our chevy to the levee,
    But the levee was dry.
    Us good old boys were using acetone and lye
    And singin’, "This’ll be the day that they die.
    "This’ll be the day that they die." ♫

    1. Chet Kincaid

      Jesus, if all the White Wonketeers would just turn in their inlaws, parents, grandparents and aunts & uncles, as well as their childhood buddies on Facebook, we wouldn't HAVE a domestic terrorism problem!

    1. FakaktaSouth

      I was all ready to be a butt about Georgia…like haha "black hole calling the kettle black" stuff, but NOPE here comes sweet home Alabama. Motherfuckers. I can't ever be superior to nothing.

        1. FakaktaSouth

          Thanks. I feel a little better.
          I also JUST sold two extra tickets I had to the LSU game this weekend, so being from here finally, literally just paid off for the first time in my entire low rent Alabama life.

          1. prommie

            That will be the national championship game. Meanwhile my Gators are getting violated like a little sister who passed out at a keg party, by every team in the SEC East.

          2. FakaktaSouth

            I think I smell whiskey – the LSUbrigade is already on the scene. Super fun.
            Florida has been so bad they have weakened our strength of schedule for not beating you harder. And I am totally gonna brag about Gainesville, to someone in Haiti maybe. (or here, same diff)

          3. elviouslyqueer

            LSU has the best, most party-hardy fans, hands down. I just hope for your sake that Tuscaloosa doesn't run out of beer.

          4. FakaktaSouth

            Yeah, that was cause they were able TO BUY BEER THERE – for us poor no-count no-beer selling leagues, going to a WVU (or in my case Hawaii, when we went there it was super exciting) game where concessions sell beer is like going to a grown up party and being underaged. The SEC makes it so that everyone I know can sneak a bottle of any shape (crown, handle of Turkey, whatever) into a stadium in their leggings, but no money for the conference. Smarter than us all, they are… but Tuscaloosa knows what LSU likes and we likes they money – we'll be ready!
            I love LSU fans. They have ALWAYS been so much fun.

  16. BaldarTFlagass

    Given the picture at top, I think I'm going to change my mind about buying one of those 3-D televisions.

  17. Schmannnity

    To Fox's credit, it also features people who are opposed to domestic terrorism and mass murder. Fair and balanced.

  18. elviouslyqueer

    So meanwhile, four old geezers plotting treasonous and potentially fatal acts against a variety of government agencies sounds like the textbook definition of "disgusting filth," eh, Brian Kilmeade?

    1. 102415

      Hey! Get off MY lawn! And take that chemical shit with you! I've got this smartphone pointed right at your dick.

  19. Joshua Norton

    Rule No. 1: Fox is always wrong.
    Rule No. 2: If you ever think Fox is right, see Rule No. 1.

    That is all.

    1. Chichikovovich

      There is one exception to rule 2: whenever a Republican candidate for President begins to look like a liability, and the real power people in the Republican party give out the order to deep six them. In that case, when Fox opens up with both barrels they usually annihilate the candidate by simply telling the truth about them. Saves time and allows them to husband valuable creative energy.

  20. Trannysurprise

    I'm pretty sure one of these idiot geezers could run right now in a Republican primary and get at least 20% of the vote.

  21. Andrew Drinker

    I'm sure by now there are comments galore on various news sites (cnn.com for starters) claiming that they were influenced by the Left.

    Wheee!

    P.S. Thank you Dad for moving out of Georgia before I was born.

  22. BarackMyWorld

    "These old people were obviously liberals because they are on government programs and because we don't like them."

    -Rightwing Brains

  23. DerrickWildcat

    Glenn Beck responds:
    People, I didn't say that you should kill Government employees.
    I said that if you wanted change…real change, you need to take matters into your own hands and perhaps kill Government employees…to…to…get the change you need…but I in no way said that you should kill Government employees!

  24. MissTaken

    rifles, explosives and ricin

    Just some darling White Christian Males exercising their 2nd Amendment rights. Nothing to see here.

  25. poncho_pilot

    Devolved. Starring the corpses of Ronald Reagan, Charlton Heston, and Timothy McVeigh and introducing Joe The Plumber.

  26. user-of-owls

    As someone who has actually appeared on the TVs as a "Terrorism Expert" (really! Ok, local news, but still!), I can assure you that for TV news folks, the term "Expert" is shorthand for "Some Moron Willing To Schlep His Ass To The Studio At The Last Minute."

  27. 102415

    I just had a tiny visit to Yahoo's NeoCivilWar Advocacy News comment board. It's totally just another way to take away our freedomz, highly suspect and all part of Obama's government plan to strip our liberties. They want to be free to wake up and smell the ricin. I agree. Not in bars or restaurants or at work but at home why not? No one's called them terrorists yet I notice.

  28. mavenmaven

    I hope their bucket list involves "picking up soap in the shower", since it looks like that might be a major activity for them soon.

  29. datateday

    With seniors this crafty, who knows if they were really just using Fox News as a front-man so that when they're caught, they can just blame the friendly TV criminals as the ones who put them up to it all?!? I mean, they could do this with just about any program on television since it's so violent these days… But FOX News was a stellar choice. Nice try, old looneys.

  30. mereoblivion

    Ricin-Roni
    The Georgia geezer treat
    Ricin-Roni
    The toxin can't be beat
    Just soak your castor beans in lye
    Then make some total strangers die
    Ricin-Roni
    The Covert's favoreet!

    (The "Rice-a-Roni, the San Francisco Treat" commercial was on TV in the bloomin' sixties, so the melody may not be readily available in everyone's aural memory banks.)

  31. Beowoof

    If they were all hot to kill government employees or people sponging off the government why wouldn't they just kill themselves. That works so many ways.

  32. comrad_darkness

    > Vanderboegh: "Pierce was trying to start a war, I'm trying to prevent one."

    Yeah. I'm writing a novel detailing in easy to follow steps the seventeen ways a wife can undetectably murder their philandering husbands but I'm doing it to prevent the murder of philandering husbands.

  33. rickmaci

    I have been saying since 2008 that lefties and progressives need to make friends with the second amendment. Setting aside the usual leftish condescension about the gun issue, this is a seriously clear wake up call, IMHO.

    1. 102415

      Guns won't help you much against ricin. Look up the sarin attack in Japan also those idiots in 1991 in Minnesota.

  34. Generation[redacted]

    Guns, explosives, and ricin. Are you sure they were watching Fox News and not Breaking Bad?

  35. GregComlish

    The cops also confiscated a lacquered pink sandalwood dildo and a worn betamax copy of "Granny Trannies"

  36. Mumbly_Occupado

    These guys were all just lone nuts, though. Four lone nuts, specifically, each a "lone wolf" attacker, who like true lone wolves, was actually part of a pack. Also, all of these lone wolves who were working together on this conspiracy got the idea from the same book about exactly the thing they were doing, but it's really impossible to say for certain that they were "incited". After all, each of these four people working together was a lone nut, and it's extremely common for four people to go (blamelessly) crazy in exactly the same way, simultaneously, for reasons that definitely don't involved being incited to violence.

    What I'm saying, basically, is that there's no way these guys are terrorists, because they're white guys. And that Vanderbeough was on conservative media, so it's Insulting and Offensive, not to mention Censorship, to suggest that may be he incited violence.

  37. NewtsChicknNeck

    I like how the Faux News Caption reads "4 GA[y] Men Accused…" Brilliant. Read that too quickly (or with old white-people eyeballs) and you'd think 4 Gheyz were going after the gubmints right after they finished their daily sodomy routine.

    Bravo, Faux. This ranks right up there with misidentifying every outed gay republican as a democrat. See e.g. Foley, Mark and Craig, Larry.

  38. lulzmonger

    Just some good ol' boys lookin' to spend their golden years engaging in chemical warfare, exactly like the Founding Fatwahs intended.

    BLOODTHIRSTY OLD BASTARD LIBEL!

  39. MzNicky

    Huh. Well ya know whut? I'm wonderin' if these Jawja senior citizens might have been in the same super-patriot club as the super-awesome patriot who traveled up here to east Tennessee a while back. He was all armed up and a-swearin' to the Tennessee Highway Patrol, who stopped him at one point on his righteous journey but aw-shucks waved him on down the road anyway, that he was gonna git all citizen's arrest on the feds for not takin' his birther lawsuit serious-like. Yessir, showed up at the courthouse with a buncha his buds all wavin' their assault guns around and such. Jury got hung up the first time on whether he done wrong. Some liberal socialist judge told 'em to get their shit straight, finally decided wayell, mebbe the ol' boy oughta serve some time after all. Anyway, I wonder if it's the same fucktards.
    http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2011/oct/25/georgia-

  40. Wonderthing

    "I'm shocked! Shocked to find assassination plots occurring right after I've agitated the mindless into a ricin makin' frenzy!"

  41. ndisang67

    This is exactly why medicare and SS were terrible ideas in the first place…won't these geriatrics be dead by now.?..in a GOP world?….we libs bring these problems upon ourselves…by caring for people too much…

  42. Dashboard_Jesus

    srsly have you ever thought about getting some *counseling* for your gun fetish/ obsession? it just doesn't seem HEALTHY!

  43. wondering where i am

    How To Make Ricin

    Find a Castor Bean Bush (Ricinus communis)
    Put on those thin rubber gloves (blue, in honor of Mittens)
    Pick a bean or two
    * * * *
    Profit

    The castor bean plant grows in the southwest United States mainly along streams and riverbeds. Castor beans are oblong and brown in color with speckled dark brown spot.

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