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Right-Wing Extremist Pat Robertson Calls For Less Extremism In GOP

It does not require major political math to figure out that the stark raving lunacy of the GOP base is bound to eventually backfire in a presidential election when American voters are faced with a choice between even a Barack Obama they are extremely “meh” about and some hollering Republican promising to personally bludgeon uninsured workers to death, but this very basic calculation appears to now be filtering down to even dank gutter rats like Pat Robertson, who has belatedly figured out that his lifetime of hateful crowing may in fact be alienating to mass quantities of ordinary voters.

From the video, via Right Wing Watch:

I believe it was Lyndon Johnson that said, ‘Don’t these people realize if they push me over to an extreme position I’ll lose the election? And I’m the one who will be supporting what they want but they’re going to make it so I can’t win.’ Those people in the Republican primary have got to lay off of this stuff. They’re forcing their leaders, the frontrunners, into positions that will mean they lose the general election. Now whether this did it to Cain I don’t know, but nevertheless, you appeal to the narrow base and they’ll applaud the daylights out of what you’re saying and then you hit the general election and they say ‘no way’ and then the Democrat, whoever it is, is going to just play these statements to the hilt. They’ve got to stop this! It’s just so counterproductive!

Eh, probably it’s because the Black Guy is leading the current GOP field, which is against Jesus and racism, but whatever, sure, Pat Robertson. [Right Wing Watch]

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201 comments

      1. poncho_pilot

        Same here, it's kinda scary.

        probability was not on our side.

        No really, hold me. I'm scared.

        i'm so poor i can't afford arms. bungee cords?

    1. Callyson

      Well, there's a difference between agree with a viewpoint and wanting to change the behavior of others as a result of that agreement. I technically agree with Pat Robertson for once, but that doesn't mean I want the Reeps actually to take his good advice, and thus have a chance of winning next year…

      1. poncho_pilot

        well, of course i don't want them to take his advice. i don't think they will, either. i think they'll write him off and keep going on about ponzi schemes, electric fences, and keep trying to rewrite history to make the lunacy contingent happy.

  1. OC_Surf_Serf_#OLA

    This loon calling you out is like Gingrich accusing another Republican candidate of spending too much at Tiffany's…

  2. Sue4466

    I refuse to say I agree with Pat Robertson. But he does have a point. Though honestly, the GOP went past midnight on the crazy clock a long time ago.

    1. HogeyeGrex


      the GOP went past midnight on the crazy clock a long time ago.

      Largely because of this festering hate-carbuncle and his ilk screaming 24-7 that God wants you to be a dick.

      And Lady Irony twitched one final time before expiring.

      1. NorthStarSpanx

        Check that, we need more modernity to relate to. Sarah Palin seeks conservation of gas consumption. She'll sacrifice her love of smelling emissions in the morning.

  3. OC_Surf_Serf_#OLA

    They’ve got to stop this! It’s just so counterproductive

    Unfortunately he doesn't mean for all of America, he just means to get elected…

    1. emmelemm

      Yes, I saw this pointed out elsewhere: He's not saying the GOP shouldn't be this crazy, he's saying they should still be doing a better job of hiding it, at least until after election results are in.

    2. BlueStateLibel

      Yeah, it's like some con wrote, I forget who or where, about how first you have to convince them to elect you and THEN you tell them you're taking away their Social Security, not vice-versa.

    1. Chichikovovich

      When I first moved to the 'States in 1984 (Reagan versus Mondale) I was staggered to hear Barry Goldwater described by talking heads as a "moderate" after his speech to the Republican Convention. Now by Republican standards Pat Robertson is a moderate and Goldwater is a raving liberal. A scary progression, to be sure, but at least it gives me a tipping point. When, in another 25 years, Michele Bachmann is described as a "Republican moderate" (without having changed positions in the least), the wise man will say to me "Now grasshopper, it is time for you to leave."

          1. Occupy V572

            Dude looks like a freakin' Green Party advocate in retrospect. And no one hates Nixon more than I do.

        1. Callyson

          Tricky Dick looks like a fucking gem compared to today's clowns.
          I said that to my baby boomer mom once and she nearly had an aneurysm.
          If she were with us today, I dare say she would agree…

      1. Negropolis

        I kind of hate how how ideologies and parties are laid out in America. Barry Goldwater was a liberal in what it would mean in most other parts of the world. In most other parts of the world, "liberal" using means someone's who believe in free markets (which also means they are usually for starving government of money, or at least in comparison to others) and free self-expression.

        In America, this type of historic liberalism actually exists across both parties. Our parties tend to rope in a lot of ideologies that wouldn't be allies in other countries. The Republicans are basically a cross between a Christian Democratic party and a Liberal Party (increasingly only on the economy), though more socially conservative than their counterparts in Europe, generally. The Democrats seem to be a cross between a Labour Party and a Liberal Party. If America has a centralized liberal party, you could split the nation's voters into almost equal thirds.

        1. Beowoof

          Congrats, but watching the horse shit that is America today I couldn't give up that which helps me sleep.Or pass out depending upon your perspective.

          1. user-of-owls

            That's why I am titling my next book:

            Contemporary American Politics: A Reason to Take Strong Drink.

        2. Callyson

          Many congrats on being able to get off the sauce in this political environment. I'm highly impressed (especially since I sure as hell can''t accomplish the same.)

          1. user-of-owls

            Thanks! But I'm not alone…I have a well-loved Wonkette commenterator who's been walking the same road I have since shortly before I started, which is wicked pissah actually!

        3. Limeylizzie

          Good for you, MrLimeylizzie is 30 years sober, after nearly bankrupting a movie studio while drinking, he got a clue!

  4. FritzBrogan

    This is just Pat's selfish griping because HE wanted to be THE extremist in the GOP. He was loony before it was cool and he hates all of these upstart posers biting his shit. All he wants is one more platinum rat dick and after that, fuck CPAC, you can have it back.

  5. Schmannnity

    Robertson appeals to the moderate middle of the Republican Party? Unfortunately, Chuck Percy died last month and the other three are out of town.

    1. BerkeleyBear

      We could zombie up Percy and Mark Hatfield – they aren't too decayed yet, right?

      I'm just waiting to see if Dick Lugar has to go full right wingnut to win his primary. That will mean the (political) death of the last guy I know of in the Senate who can still actually work with Dems on anything and mean it. Granted, what he cares about has fuck all to do with the economy (loose nukes) but still . . .

  6. user-of-owls

    Tomorrow on Drudge:

    Radical cleric denounces GOP as 'extremist'
    Demands Republicans 'stop' all campaigning
    Limbaugh: The 'Mad Mullah' of America

  7. Antispandex

    But, but, without extremism, there would be no place for…Pat Robertson. Falling on his proverbial sword?

    1. Chichikovovich

      Or maybe he's been in a state equivalent to having a stroke for 60 years, but for a brief, fleeting moment he's having an un-stroke.

    1. BerkeleyBear

      I have no idea why, but I was just thinking about that little photo op the other day. That was about the most hilarious thing I've ever seen. If that's what passes for a leg press, I must have been able to lift 2 tons just with my big toe. Praise Jeebus.

  8. weejee

    Lewis Carroll on a handful of orange sunshine, or purple double dome – you decide, wouldn't have been able to make this shit up.

  9. CapnFatback

    Maybe he's referring to "extreme position" in the X Games sense, creating a metaphor of the Republican candidates doing verbal boardslides and ollies in their campaigning.

    It's the only thing that makes sense, right? I mean, no candidate has called for the assassination of Hugo Chavez, right?

  10. Dok-cupy Everything

    Yes, Pat, and as I said when Herman Cain announced that "stupid people are ruining America," we are all in great danger: the National Institute of Irony is just about to explode.

    1. BerkeleyBear

      Idi Imin telling you "you're too intense." (Stole it from Robin Williams, who probably stole it from a comic you've never heard of).

      William Shatner telling you, . . . your. Delivery – is stilted!

      Weird Al telling you your music is derivative.

      Al Gore telling you that you seem stiff.

      John McCain telling you you're too impetuous and impulsive with major decisions.

      Lindsey Graham saying you are effeminate.

      Emeril saying you're too excitable in the kitchen.

      Vladimir Putin calling you a cold hearted bastard.

      Ronald Reagan saying you are forgetful.

      W saying you're a loudmouthed Texas sized idjit (or just Rick Perry)

      Herman Cain calling you an Uncle Tom

      Michele Bachman saying you're mentally unstable.

    2. unclejeems

      Like Carl Rove apologizing for shooting you in the face.
      Like Hitler telling the SS, nah, we've slaughtered enough of them . . .
      Like Richard Nixon admitting he's a crook.
      Like Franco, rising from his grave and governing Spain.
      Like Louis XV, telling his courtiers, apres moi, maybe a little dry spell.
      Like the Father of our Country, telling his dad, well, maybe a little teensie, weensie white lie, once in a while.
      LIke Napoleon, saying "Constitutions? Hell, yeah."
      Like Amelia Earhardt's navigator, who told her, "No problem, I've crossed the Pacific by the seat of my pants dozens of times."
      Like a Republican, with a conscience . . . no, wait a minute.

      (Slaps himself on the forehead and stomps off muttering to himself.)

  11. Swampgas_Man

    Crazy Shit realizes shit has gotten too crazy. Unless this is his way of dropping into the race as a moderate.

    1. NYNYNYjr

      He doesn't think it's got too crazy- he's saying keep the crazy in your mind when you're running, then, when elected, do the crazy.

    1. Biel_ze_Bubba

      I think he means, "Holy shit … everyone's gone pandering so far to the right that Herman *coughblackcough* Cain might be the nominee!!! We gotta dial it back, people!" (Just until the primary is over, you understand.)

  12. JackObin

    Pat Robertson is mentally ill. He needs to be locked in a padded cell. He represents everything that is wrong with this defective species.

      1. Slim_Pickins

        As Fox announced in a World Series promo, "Albert Pujols joined Babe Ruth and Reggie Jackson as the only two people to hit three home runs in a single World Series game." Who can argue with logic like that?

    1. poncho_pilot

      Adelia Elmer? anyway, the act of pegging is why God hates us and there are hurricanes, also too.

  13. poncho_pilot

    does this have something to do with the Overton window? or is that just the window Christie has to be defenestrated from?

  14. SayItWithWookies

    So is Pat telling the GOP to stop it with the crazy-ass ideas, or to just shut up about them for now? I'm going with the second — it's like whoever pulled Dubya's strings in 2000 managed to keep him from saying his highest priority was going to be invading Iraq.

    1. BerkeleyBear

      Ding. Ding. Ding. (Only don't let them know, please).

      The number one difference between Perry and W – W actually listened to Rove, who kept him sounding sane with all that "compassionate conservative" bs. Perry and Cain have no filters, and Mitten is all filter all the time.

        1. BerkeleyBear

          Comes from raising a kid with autism and having my own Asperger trait issues – you know when someone has no ability to discriminate between what should be an internal and external monologue (even if you can't keep yourself from making the same sort of mistake).

  15. OccupytheDashboard

    Hey Pat. It's nice you're taking a break from your own idiocy spattered invective. Too little too late though. Hey…you're a Bible guy, maybe this is familiar?

    "For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind…"

  16. ThundercatHo

    Translation: Tell 'em what they want to hear and after you're in office phone it all it to Jesus.

  17. GeorgiaBurning

    Strange that Pat Robertson now represents the left-wing of the Rethuglican party. If I was Obama I'd have some dirty tricks guys stirring up shit just to see the Rethuglican candidates try to out-crazy each other.

    1. Rotundo_

      Why? They seem to be doing magnificently without any help at all. Save the cash and energy for dealing with the election. The primary season has yet to even begin and these jokers are bursting out every which way. Sit back and watch the circular firing squad and marvel that it is the right doing this shit this time around.

  18. Chichikovovich

    What Robertson actually means is "Sure, you should want to crush unions, raise taxes on the po' to cut taxes on the Louis XIV class, make war on every country with a funny name and borrow from the Chinese to do it so as to make future social programs impossible, hobble public schools and smuggle in public support for religious schools, *silently* cheer the death of the uninsured and *silently* boo gay soldiers, regard praying for rain as a state's entire forest fire fighting policy and howlingly blame Obama for everything from the assassination of Garfield to the designated hitter rule. That's all in the Republican platform that nobody reads anyway. Just DON'T admit that that's what you're doing. Stealth is the only way to get what we want."

  19. MissTaken

    I hope the candidates do listen to him, because he knows about failed GOP presidential primary bids.

  20. iburl

    I think as long as the GOP does not nominate that one gay republican guy that's running that they won't let in the debates, they SHOULD be safe from hurricanes.

  21. Rotundo_

    When Pat Robertson tells you that you've gone round the bend, you have really accomplished something. The combination of Randian nutjobs, Christian nutjobs and opportunistic political whores has perhaps, not that I would put money on it, but perhaps has finally overshot far enough into fascism to even scare the old guard shitless. I never thought they would go too far right for Pat. Damn.

  22. BlueStateLibel

    You know who else belatedly figured out that a lifetime of hateful crowing wasn't such a good idea?

  23. Dok-cupy Everything

    It's official: Freeplandia has declared Pat Robertson a RINO.

    Samples:

    For my money, Pat has gone daft. The "Republican Base" is no where near conservative enough. The "base" of the GOP has been shifting left for years.

    Extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice.
    What happened to that GOP?

    Too extreme?
    Because we think the government should spend only what they take in?
    ….
    [much snippage of Tea Party talking points, for length--DokZoom]…
    Because we think there is too much government intrusion into our daily lives, from regulating the amount of water we can flush down a toilet, electricity we burn in a lightbulb, or fat we eat in a meal?
    …[snip again]…
    Because we feel that abortion should not be as easy an option as taking an aspirin for a headache?….

    I love that they see regulations to limit resource waste as an unwarranted intrusion of Big Gummit into our lives, but think that Big Gummint should reach right into a woman's uterus…

    Pat’s main beef with those of us on the right is that we support Israel and he is a dirty, rotten, filthy anti-semite.
    He loves the Palenstinians.

    He lost me when he suggested that a man may divorce his wife if she has Alzheimer’s. The Christian community condemned his statements. Poor guy needs to pass the reigns to his son. He is obviously very confused.

    I think the #1 job of the stealth Democrat known as a RINO in the leadership of the GOP has been as I’ve posted numerous occasions the redefining of the meaning of Conservatism. It’s seemingly, to me anyway been a cause for them.
    They’ve been working at it for a long time.

    Enemies everywhere–even–or ESPECIALLY–in our ranks!!!

    These guys are going to be so much fun when Romney sews up the nomination.

    1. poncho_pilot

      the base isn't conservative enough? shifting left? haha. and…Democrats! with glowing red eyes! dressed as sheep! the only thing that would be funny to me about these jackasses being in power would be the frequent Party Purges.

    2. Cicada

      These guys are going to be so much fun when Romney sews up the nomination

      PUMA II : Electric Boogaloo

    3. grex1949

      A sincere "thank you" for sifting through that swamp to bring us the essence of what these dipshits are saying to one another. Amazing that Pat Robertson is just too liberal for this crowd. These folks, I'm afraid, are seriously fucked up.

  24. OutsideAgitator

    Hey, what about heavily taxing the churches and the obese felines, and slashing military spending by 75% as a way to finance jobs for all who want one?

  25. VespulaMaculata

    Next, Casey Anthony, Andrea Yates and Susan Smith collaborate on a book of parenting tips.

  26. Jukesgrrl

    Love the use of "those people." Aren't they the same ones who financed your empire, Rev. Grandpa Douchebag?

  27. comrad_darkness

    >They’ve got to stop this! It’s just so counterproductive!

    Yeah, candidates, don't tell the truth, lie!

  28. littlebigdaddy

    Maybe it's true what the philosophers say–senility is a second childhood. Just as young children are incapable of strategic lying, Pat is finally speaking the truth.

  29. Negropolis

    Oooo…this could be a fun game. Guess the next End-of-the-World newspaper headlines:

    1. KKK proposes merge with NAACP
    2. GOP congressman caught screwing adult female intern
    3. Koch Bros. stop meddling in American politics, move to India for spiritual enlightenment.
    4. Taliban funds construction of a womens' center in downtown Kabul

  30. Negropolis

    Kirsten, I love you for calling Robertson a "dank gutter rat." God bless you.

    Can you believe this guy is shilling for that apostate, Mitt Romney? Then again, this is a Christian conservative, and they are like the very definition of strange bedfellows…and it's allways the fellahs.

  31. valgal2342

    …."Now whether this did it to Cain, I don't know, but nevertheless…."
    Cain, Abel whatever, this shit is just getting too weird.

  32. subsum

    Pat is dead wrong. The Republican base must not give in on their principles. They need to make sure their nominee is a true conservative; someone who will not cave in no matter what the consequences. That way we'll make sure they stay out of the White House for another four years at least.

  33. Dok-cupy Everything

    Hey, speaking of right-wing extremists, PBS's Frontline is rerunning "Death By Fire," its episode on the Todd Willingham case. You know, the one where Rick "Execute everyone" Perry ignored scientific evidence that probably exonerated a man accused of killing his children by arson? Only the "investigation" that convicted Willingham depended mostly on disproven techniques, not science? But hey, Willingham was convicted, and he was kind of an asshole, so there's no way he could have been railroaded, no big whoop.

    "I'm Rick Perry, and I like killing people."

    The Frontline site also includes an excellent collection of links, including David Grann's New Yorker story that brought the Willingham case to national prominence.

    1. grex1949

      Willingham was kind of an asshole, by most accounts, but he probably didn't kill his children. Every responsible expert in the field of fire propagation patterns testified that the evidence that convicted Willingham of arson was seriously flawed, and that conclusions drawn by the prosecution's expert were not based on fact and science, but on hand-me-down, anecdotal "truth" shared by fire marshals from one generation to the next.

      1. Dok-cupy Everything

        Rick Perry is sure Willingham was a monster, since his last words in the death chamber were an "obscenity-laced triad" (Perry's word) against his wife, who had publicly said that she was convinced of his guilt. Perry was so certain of Willingham's guilt that he fired the state science commission that was preparing a report which probably would have reflected the thinking of fire scientists, and replaced the head of the commission with a political ally. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVKizlWVzmI

        Rick Perry knows that if science gives you answers you don't like, science is worthless.

    2. Biel_ze_Bubba

      Not based on fact and science, but on hand-me-down, anecdotal "truth" passed from one generation to the next.

      Gee, that sounds really familiar.
      Fuckwit Perry is a fuckwit.

  34. MiniMencken

    The Kochs and their posse don't necessarily need to believe any of this Bircher jibber-jabber, but they know how the adaptive network model works and are using it to create these swarms of Teabaggers, who will clamor for legislation that puts the plutocrats ever more firmly in the driver's seat. I just realized this while reading about swarming behavior in locusts.

  35. ColonelDoctor

    Is it possible that this irony is so ironic that it's a conspiracy? That the right is spinning Pat so that we could be distracted in the other direction? Or that Pat is talking shit just to give a polarizing sentiment to make things more Romney-friendly? Or is this shit just totally fucked-up?

    1. Biel_ze_Bubba

      Nothing so elaborate: Pat's just freaking out now that he sees where the candidates' pandering to the wingnuts has left the GOP: with Herman *coughblackcough* Cain as the frontrunner. He wants them to tone down the crazy until a white guy is safely installed.

  36. glamourdammerung

    It seems more like Robertson is telling the GOP to lie about how extreme it is in order to try to con sane people into voting for them. Kind of like what Robertson did with his "combat veteran" military record.

  37. awwalk56

    One of the main social arsonist that started this fucking fire now complains that the fire is too hot. Fuck him. Soon rev.pat will be with the other social arsonist falwell licking hot skillets in their imaginary hell. None too soon.

  38. johnnyzhivago

    Pat is a defeatist socialist swine. Probably a Mooslim now too. Republicans must stand their ground and express the MOST EXTREME positions possible. This is not the time to surrender – this is the time to go even more EXTREME! Expose the foreign imposter in the White House. Shut down the post office and replace it with UPS and FedEx like Ben Franklin envisioned! Derail Amtrak – if Jefferson wanted the United States to run passenger trains he damned well would have mentioned it to someone!!!

    Republicans are shining an incandesent light of freedom on the horrors of enslavement under the sickly, flickering glow of democrat sponsored communism.

    1. Biel_ze_Bubba

      "Republicans are shining an incandescent light of freedom."

      The light is from the flames of their self-immolation, but I'm cool with that. I like the nice, rosy glow of spontaneously combusting wingtards.

    1. Negropolis

      Because God has a wickedly dark sense of humor?

      Because hate is a great motivator to continue onward in life?

  39. lulzmonger

    Translation: "Stop saying what we really want out loud, you stupid fuckers!"

    Pat fears the passing of the venerable GOP tradition of secret deals in smoke-filled back rooms.

    The Grotesque Old Parody is forgetting Reagan's OTHER 11th Commandment: thou shalt not go out in public with the rat still stuck on the end of thy dick.

  40. Troglodeity

    Sitting on a sofa on a Sunday afternoon.
    Going to the candidate's debate.
    Laugh about it, shout about it, when you've got to choose
    Every way you look at this you lose.
    So here's to you, Mr. Robertson …

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