• May 26, 2012
OCCUPY HERMAN CAIN

October 5, 2011

Herman Cain To Ocupados: ‘Don’t Have a Job? Not Rich? Blame Yourself!’

by Ken Layne  

Pizza pizza!Delusional fast-food merchant Herman Cain is riding around in limousines and trying to sell his shitty book, which is all his “presidential campaign” was ever about, obviously. But he took a break from his self-promotional tour to do some self-promotion with the Wall Street Journal, so he could blame the Occupy Wall Street protests now spreading across the country on … Barack Obama, who planned these protests, apparently, “to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration.” Yeah Obama would definitely engineer a radical leftist movement against Wall Street … the same Wall Street that has run the Obama Administration from Day One. ALSO: Herman Cain has a message for the poor, unemployed protesters!

Here’s what Cain said, as transcribed by Mother Jones from this horrid WSJ video clip:

“I don’t have facts to back this up, but I happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration. Don’t blame Wall Street, don’t blame the big banks, if you don’t have a job and you’re not rich, blame yourself! It is not someone’s fault if they succeeded.”

“I don’t have facts to back this up,” hahahahahah. Asshole.

So, it is a conspiracy, but it’s Obama who is doing the conspiracy, to plan protests. But it’s not a conspiracy that all but a handful of the ultra-rich are doing okay in this shitty collapsing country. That’s the fault of, obviously, poor people. Poor people did it! Fucking poor people, why don’t they work? [Mother Jones]

{ 229 comments }

SorosBot October 5, 2011 at 1:15 pm

Blame yourself, really? What, for not being lucky enough to be born into a rich family? Dolt, wealth comes from dumb luck in America.

Lionel[redacted]Esq October 5, 2011 at 2:19 pm

I blame myself for being in a job where, if I screw up, I do not get at least a million dollar golden parachute, at best, a couple of million dollar bonus, and the government will make everything better. Why is it these dirty Socialist don't appreciate the hard work that has made people on Wall Street rich, whether or not they do anything right?

SorosBot October 5, 2011 at 2:22 pm

There's even some people who are so stupid they actually want to do something useful with their lives instead of becoming bloated parasites on society, feasting off the actual work of others.

Nothingisamiss October 5, 2011 at 2:26 pm

That's where I went wrong in my career choice.

jus_wonderin October 5, 2011 at 2:32 pm

Dang it, I saw that those courses were being offered but I became a teacher. Geez. I need the face palm of God!

Boojum_Reborn October 5, 2011 at 4:31 pm

Really? In America?

Boojum_Reborn October 5, 2011 at 4:30 pm

Yes, yes, it is my fault for having poor parents! Punish me more!

BradCummings77 October 6, 2011 at 7:58 am

I hate to break it to you Boojum, but Herman Cain had poor parents too.

Jukesgrrl October 5, 2011 at 5:42 pm

The poors understand about dumb luck. That's why most of them buy lottery tickets instead of putting that $2 a week into an IRA.

Fauxhemian October 6, 2011 at 9:31 am

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bebopluvr October 6, 2011 at 1:47 pm

Well, I *do* blame myself for picking the wrong parents.

memzilla October 5, 2011 at 2:15 pm

“I don’t have facts to back this up, but… [bloviation]

These nine words are the most honest thing a modern-day Rethuglican has ever said.

Lionel[redacted]Esq October 5, 2011 at 2:20 pm

Clearly, this should be the start of every campaign commercial from every GOP candidate. Hell, it could be FOX New's and the Journal's now slogan.

Studebaker Hawk October 5, 2011 at 2:21 pm

RINO!!1!!!

Sue4466 October 5, 2011 at 2:21 pm

He does get points for honesty, right? Granted, he then loses those points and then some for being a dick in general.

chascates October 5, 2011 at 2:23 pm

"I'm not intelligent but I try to project that image on TV."

Mumbletypeg October 5, 2011 at 2:48 pm

That's the baffling part and what's misunderstood, I think, about him: the man actually has a degree in mathematics, another in computer science and worked under the military in ballistics … But stand him up onstage to score political gain and he comes across like a pandering buffoon.

Fare la Volpe October 5, 2011 at 2:49 pm

As they say, a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

DaRooster October 5, 2011 at 3:04 pm

A lot like the new Godfather Pizza slogan-
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind"

BaldarTFlagass October 5, 2011 at 3:20 pm

"A mind is a terrible thing."

Dashboard_Jesus October 6, 2011 at 12:17 am

ouch, the United Negro College Fund salutes you!

MOG2410 October 5, 2011 at 4:22 pm

Gets him where he wants to go.

Rotundo_ October 5, 2011 at 5:59 pm

One may be very gifted, but if one has a delusional belief system one still looks like a blooming idiot to the external observer: He may be able to mathematically prove any point he wants, but the points he seems to want to make are painfully stupid. He may be bright, but his belief system is fucked up. The modern conservative mindset is more religion than reality based: How many times do they have to fail to be discredited and accept that they are wrong?

Dashboard_Jesus October 6, 2011 at 12:18 am

"It's not MATH, it's CLASS WARFARE!1!1!

chicken_thief October 5, 2011 at 2:24 pm

Better to not have the facts and bloviate than have the facts, ignore them, and bloviate anyway. I guess?!

Lionel[redacted]Esq October 5, 2011 at 2:37 pm

That is a fine line, but Herman Cain is just the man to walk it.

BaldarTFlagass October 5, 2011 at 2:38 pm

Six of one, half dozen of the other; come see come sah; win-win; tomato tomahto; whatevs…

Rotundo_ October 5, 2011 at 6:01 pm

He, like most of the republican orthodoxy, does not have much use for facts. Beliefs are so much more powerful. They're Magic!

SorosBot October 5, 2011 at 2:42 pm

Now if only they also would admit that before referring to climate change, the age of the Earth, the beliefs of the founding fathers, hell pretty much all of science and history really.

Omophagist October 5, 2011 at 2:50 pm

The next Republican presidential debate will end with, "We will now open up the floor to wild accusations."

DaRooster October 5, 2011 at 3:05 pm

Haven't they already?

Lionel[redacted]Esq October 5, 2011 at 4:01 pm

As opposed to the entire debate?

Barb October 5, 2011 at 2:17 pm

I'm still dying to hear what he "thinks" he's going to change "Hail to the Chief" to once he is President. Any ideas?

memzilla October 5, 2011 at 2:19 pm

Janis Joplin's Pizza My Heart?

DashboardBuddha October 5, 2011 at 2:26 pm

Dammit!

Mumbletypeg October 5, 2011 at 2:20 pm

Well he's already singing "Hail to the Thief" so there's that~

memzilla October 5, 2011 at 2:20 pm

John Lennon's Give Pizza Chance?

DashboardBuddha October 5, 2011 at 2:25 pm

I saw what you did there.

chicken_thief October 5, 2011 at 2:26 pm

Beatles "Number Nine"?

FlownOver October 5, 2011 at 2:27 pm

I'm guessing there'll be no room for subtlety — it'll be "Dixie."

widestanceshakedown October 5, 2011 at 2:31 pm

Patti Smith's 'Rock n' Roll N. . . on second thought, I ain't going there today.

V572 Moon! October 5, 2011 at 2:31 pm

Something by Coltrane, one would think.

DaRooster October 5, 2011 at 2:36 pm

Sgt. Pepperoni [Artichoke] Hearts Club Band?

#rehash

JustPixelz October 5, 2011 at 2:57 pm

True fact: Here in Hartford Connecticut — the nation's leading producer of Joe-mentum — there is a pizza joint called Sgt. Pepperoni's. Slices are $2, which I call the 2-2-2 Dinner.

Steverino247 October 5, 2011 at 2:43 pm

Horst Wessel Lied. And you know who else…

jqheywood October 5, 2011 at 4:57 pm

Hmmm….who vas this Horst Wessel of whom you speak, and why is his truthiness important. Ve haf vays of makink you talk, Mr. Blaine.

Major Thom October 5, 2011 at 2:50 pm

The theme from "The Godfather".

JustPixelz October 5, 2011 at 2:59 pm

Too easy. I'd suggest something by the Godfather of Soul, but Mr. Cain doesn't seem like a soulful kinda guy.

Fare la Volpe October 5, 2011 at 2:54 pm

Cheese Once, Twice, Three Times a Lady

WhatTheHolyHeck October 5, 2011 at 3:02 pm

Sadly, all I keep hearing in my head is that pootly Turkey in the Straw ice cream truck jingle.

Crank_Tango October 5, 2011 at 3:23 pm

Fight tha Power? No wait–wrong black guy, wrong pizza joint.

gurukalehuru October 5, 2011 at 3:31 pm

Cheese is Christ, Superstar

CapnFatback October 5, 2011 at 5:44 pm

Don't you mean "Cheesy Crust, Superstar?"

Lascauxcaveman October 5, 2011 at 7:01 pm

He wouldn't go for that hippie shit. He's more of a fundamentalist, so I'm guessing "Oh What a Friend We Have in Cheeses."

ChuckieJesus October 5, 2011 at 9:14 pm

I approve

user-of-owls October 5, 2011 at 3:33 pm

When the moon hits your eye…

Oblios_Cap October 5, 2011 at 3:49 pm

"Crossroads", by Robert Johnson?

capnhuggyface October 5, 2011 at 3:55 pm

"Crazy Train"

CapnFatback October 5, 2011 at 5:46 pm

Warrant's "Uncle Tom's Cabin"?

Which is worse: the Uncle Tom reference or the Warrant reference?

CapnFatback October 5, 2011 at 5:50 pm

I hear that Hank Williams, Jr. Is looking for work.

BaldarTFlagass October 5, 2011 at 2:18 pm

Herman: Having once made the mistake of eating a Godfather's pizza, I blame myself for the fact that you are now a rich clueless obnoxious blathering fuckwit.

NorthStarSpanx October 5, 2011 at 2:19 pm

What can we expect from a man who's world only involves pizza and black walnut ice cream?

Dr_Zoidberg October 5, 2011 at 2:23 pm

Oh, black walnut? Just had to play the race card, huh?!

NorthStarSpanx October 5, 2011 at 2:37 pm

Cunning American Black Walnuts processor jumps on this high-profile development to attack Haagen-Daaz.
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-681816

Lionel[redacted]Esq October 5, 2011 at 2:38 pm

Hey, at least he didn't use the old name, nigger walnut ice cream.

Fare la Volpe October 5, 2011 at 2:55 pm

It's the name of a flower, jeez!

Boojum_Reborn October 5, 2011 at 4:33 pm

Brazil nut ice cream?

paris biltong October 5, 2011 at 2:19 pm

This guy believes people are to blame for not being rich or having a job and he is trying to become president of the United States? Some people are actually supporting him?
Tell you what Herman: don't blame anyone but yourself if you don't win this election by a landslide.

chicken_thief October 5, 2011 at 2:30 pm

And it never seems to occur to his base that he is talking about them – they are the ones who didn't get off the ass and be a kazillionaire so we would be talking about their effective tax rate, golden parachutes for running companies into the ground, etc.

gullywompr October 5, 2011 at 5:50 pm

Win.

Swampgas_Man October 5, 2011 at 6:42 pm

The people who support him are not the poors and unemployeds.

Ducksworthy October 5, 2011 at 2:19 pm

"The same Wall Street that has run the Obama Administration from Day One" does not give me reason to hope.

Nothingisamiss October 5, 2011 at 2:28 pm

As it should not. Yet, I have to hope at least a few minutes of the day.

jus_wonderin October 5, 2011 at 2:35 pm

I am over my hope minute limit for the day. And I don't know how to use the rollovers.

TanzbodenKoenig October 5, 2011 at 3:33 pm

you just save up your tears of despair in little jars so instead of going through all the effort of sobbing while in your existential quandary you can just reuse the tears youve already cried

jus_wonderin October 5, 2011 at 3:37 pm

There is probably some fee on that. I need to check the contract.

Lionel[redacted]Esq October 5, 2011 at 2:42 pm

Ken's being a little harsh on that. Given the distress in the economy from the Bush years and the collapse that was going on, it made sense to bring in some Wall Street people. And there has been some attempts to better the consumer's plight. But let's face it, the GOP would rather raise taxes on their grandmothers than hold a rich person accountable for their sins.

Obama hasn't been perfect, but can you imagine the alternative?

Ken Layne October 5, 2011 at 3:21 pm

Haha, as my nonprofit environmental lobby friends say, "At least we would've been PREPARED had McCain won."

This horrifying new book about how Obama bowed to literally EVERYTHING that Geithner/Wall Street demanded, from day one, has all the details for those still in denial. And this same book has the fun fact that *on the way to his inauguration,* Obama was told the Republicans in the House and Senate would block everything he planned. Everything. He knew this before he even took the oath, and yet he persisted for three years trying to make nice with them, wasting TWO YEARS with a Senate/House huge majority.

Crank_Tango October 5, 2011 at 3:27 pm

The only silver lining I see is on the supreme court. It might even be tinfoil, but still.

imissopus October 5, 2011 at 5:12 pm

Let's at least quit pretending the guy had huge majorities in the Senate. He had conservative Dems like Baucus, Nelson, and Lieberman that he had to satisfy in order to reach that 60-vote majority that was needed to pass everything. The Dems simply don't have the ideological rigidity and uniformity of today's Republican Party.

Obama, like many presidents before him, promised to bring change to Washington, to govern differently, yadda yadda yadda. He's not the first to run headlong into reality, nor will he be the last, and every time there will be disappointed supporters who were just so sure their guy would be the one to turn the whole place around. But putting aside differences and working together to fix the country's problems was the theme of the man's entire fucking inauguration speech, so I don't know that he could be reasonably expected to do a 180 on that idea because of something someone told him on the way to giving said speech. And if he had, he would have taken fire for abandoning his campaign promise to not govern like an uncompromising dickhead. The guy was damned if he did and damned if he didn't, but at least he made the effort, which is more than one can say about damn near every member of Congress.

LetUsBray October 5, 2011 at 11:11 pm

Eleventy billion upfists.

Cicada October 5, 2011 at 10:25 pm

Oh yes, the HUUUUUUUGE majority. Can we finally dispense with the fiction that Obama had a unified Dem majority ready to pass liberal legislation, please?

The cuts to the stimulus were made to appease Blue Dog Dems. Without those Blue Dog votes it wouldn't have passed. Ditto the major concessions on the ACA. As much as it galls to remember, the big compromises on the ACA were made to get Democrats on board.

The Democratic party is a big tent, and that means that any legislation making it through Congress has to appeal to a broad coalition, including a lot of Dems who are just slightly less ratfuckcrazy than the Republicans. Add to that the fact that the GOP was unified in blocking any and all legislation sponsored by the Dems and you see why any bill had to appeal to the Blue Dogs in order to get passed at all.

Did it ever occur to you that Obama "making nice" with the Republicans was much more about making nice to the center-right wing of the Dem party? You know, the center-right wing that was needed to get any legislation at all passed in the face of unified GOP opposition?

Fuckity fuck fuck fuck, man.

axmxz October 6, 2011 at 1:54 pm

Yeah, people keep forgetting that a hefty chunk of self-proclaimed Democrats are basically Republicans lite.

axmxz October 6, 2011 at 1:52 pm

I have it on good authority that Suskind is a lying hack of the first order.

imissopus October 5, 2011 at 5:15 pm

Yes, and it is horrifying.

I still have yet to figure out what campaign people were watching in 2008 that they thought Obama was the liberal polar opposite of McCain and Palin. He was a moderate who brought in people who had worked for Clinton in the 90s. Some of them might have been the wrong people for the particular moment, but it can't have been a surprise that they were the ones Obama hired. If people want to be mad, perhaps they should be mad at the neoliberal drift of the Democratic Party that has been going on for almost twenty years now.

Cicada October 5, 2011 at 9:59 pm

The people who thought Obama was going to be the polar opposite of McCain were low-information voters who didn't look at Obama's record or his policy papers available on the OFA website. ZOMG, Obama was in favor of nuclear power development and ethanol subsidies, how liberal. He also voted in favor of warrantless wiretaps, how fucking far left.

I spent a lot of the 2008 campaign making sure that the correct position info was available to people working the phone banks/canvassers/ etc. The fact that Obama was/is a centrist Dem is no surprise to me. A lot of people apparently stopped at "hope & change" and figured they knew what Obama stood for by listening to some campaign speeches while completely ignoring his voting record and the positions clearly outlined on his campaign website. Now those people get angry because Obama continues to support the centrist Dem positions. Fuck it.

I have completely written off people who don't bother to research their candidates then turn around and scream about how they were betrayed.Caveat fucking emptor. And those people better not ever talk shit about those ignorant hicks who vote GOP, because they did exactly the same thing. The only difference is that the ignorant hicks delude themselves that Sarah Palin fights for them, while the oh so educated liberals delude themselves that a centrist Democrat who says he'll increase troop levels in Afghanistan is anti-war. Hahahahahaha.

imissopus October 5, 2011 at 11:03 pm

You are preaching to the choir here, my friend. Sometimes I wonder if Ken just writes stuff like that to tick off people like you and me and Chet Kinkaid, or if living in the desert really has fried his nerves and his brain.

4TheTurnstiles October 5, 2011 at 2:20 pm

This man is today's Sarah Palin. This is the face of right-wing grifting today.

chicken_thief October 5, 2011 at 2:32 pm

Glen Rice fucked Herman Cain?!!! Ewhhhhh.

ph7 October 5, 2011 at 2:20 pm

Abraham Lincoln to the slaves? "if you don’t like working for a master and you’re not free, blame yourself! "

V572 Moon! October 5, 2011 at 2:20 pm

All her admirers should note that the beauteous Tamron Hall is doing her show right now down with los Occupados on Wall Street. Do it, Tamron! And give Riley a kiss! By the way, she towers over Ezra Klein, who must be a physical as well as an intellectual dwarf. It would be better if she'd talk to actual protesters rather than other journohacks, but at least you get to look at her.

And i don't have the facts to back this up, but I believe Mitt Romney's magic underwear are woven of golden threads.

Crank_Tango October 5, 2011 at 3:28 pm

…and stained with golden skidmarks.

Gorillionaire October 5, 2011 at 11:14 pm

Tamron Hall reminds me of my six grade home room teacher – the one that I desperately wanted to bang.

freakishlywrong October 5, 2011 at 2:20 pm

"Let them eat shit pizza".

Dudleydidwrong October 5, 2011 at 2:46 pm

Isn't that part of every Godfather's pizza? "Hey, Marie, put some more shit on the next one, hon."

weejee October 5, 2011 at 2:21 pm

Cain is starting to play with his little balls. Mutiny in 3, 2, 1…

Lionel[redacted]Esq October 5, 2011 at 2:21 pm

I don’t have facts to back this up,

I don't have time to watch the clip, but did the Journal's editorial board chime in and say "That never stopped us."

NorthStarSpanx October 5, 2011 at 2:22 pm

Oh and Ocupado supporters? Make sure you don't order from Godfather's when sending pizza to the high bongo playing laze-abouts.

Callyson October 5, 2011 at 2:22 pm

Cain added that the banks "did have something to do with the crisis in 2008, but we're not in 2008, we're in 2011! Okay?"
Yeah, because it's not as if the banks are doing the same things in 2011 that they did in 2008. Oh wait…

Nothingisamiss October 5, 2011 at 2:30 pm

And there is no fucking WAY that anything like economic collapse in late 2008 would still be causing problems today! That's like, twelve reality TV show years.

horsedreamer_1 October 8, 2011 at 7:03 pm

Mc Fly!!!

Sue4466 October 5, 2011 at 2:22 pm

“I don’t have facts to back this up. But I'm just going to say some crazy ass shit so I'll be in the next news cycle. You got your pencil ready? Cause this is going to be insane! Just might win you a Pulitzer."

Asshole indeed.

Schmannnity October 5, 2011 at 2:22 pm

Can I have extra cheese on that half assed idea?

johnnyzhivago October 5, 2011 at 2:23 pm

Thanks for confirming my belief that this whole disorganized failure was engineered by the Obama Administration! At least when the Bush Administration "Did 911" they had a real plan and carried through with it.

SudsMcKenzie October 5, 2011 at 2:23 pm

Cain went on to say "there's always money in the banana stand".

Crank_Tango October 5, 2011 at 3:30 pm

NO TOUCHING!!!

Dr_Zoidberg October 5, 2011 at 2:24 pm

Here, Mr. Cain, have this bag of dicks. I was saving it for Ol' Crazy-eyes Bachmann, but you deserve it more.

Fare la Volpe October 5, 2011 at 2:56 pm

Shelly doesn't need another one anyway. Marcus has a a ton in the back of his closet.

Goonemeritus October 5, 2011 at 2:25 pm

I don’t have facts to back this up but I suspect Herman cut costs in his pizza empire by using only meat from cute lovable kittens. What kind of man kills kittens I ask you?

Preferred Customer October 5, 2011 at 2:30 pm

I don't have the facts to back this up, but I don't think any kind of man would do that. He must, therefore, be some sort of space alien/cyborg from the future/undersea creature. Either way, I don't think we should elect someone who may be a sci-fi horror creature president of this or any other country, except maybe Russia.

V572 Moon! October 5, 2011 at 2:35 pm

So what does he do with the scraggly, unlovable kittehs?

Not sure I want to know the answer.

chicken_thief October 5, 2011 at 2:36 pm

And I submit to you: "a man who proudly goes by the name of 'the Evil One' when translated from Hebrew".

Chichikovovich October 5, 2011 at 3:22 pm

Ah yes, that guy. According to Gen 4:15 he had some kind of mark on him. The mormons have had a striking interpretation of that passage. Cain should ask Romney about it.

Preferred Customer October 5, 2011 at 2:26 pm

There is nothing that takes the mind of of "failed policies of the Obama administration" faster than a group of people protesting the state of the economy. QED.

ndisang67 October 5, 2011 at 2:26 pm

Cain May not understand it…but I would like to remind him that, the collapse of the middle class would lead to the collapse of the America itself. The middle class is the bedrock of all institutions and democracy itself.
-The way I see America going, if it continues like this for another generation, that very scorge that they so abhor – socialism may be what is waiting down the road for us all.
-It's just a matter of time before teapublicans agree that CORPORATIZATION of our democracy has wrecked havoc on this nation…that CITIZENS UNITED was the day democray died in American…

Redhead October 5, 2011 at 2:27 pm

He then continued – "Not white? Not male? Blame yourself! Minor child without parents who can afford health insurance or, you know, food? Blame yourself! Not my problem! Bahahahahahahahaha!"

DashboardBuddha October 5, 2011 at 2:27 pm

What a dick.

freakishlywrong October 5, 2011 at 2:29 pm

Succinct, and crisp, the only change would be "buncha (s)".

poncho_pilot October 5, 2011 at 2:29 pm

"On a sadder note, Pizza the Hutt Chris Christie was found dead earlier today in the back seat of his stretched limo helicopter. Evidently, the notorious gangster governor became locked in his car helicopter and ate himself to death."

jus_wonderin October 5, 2011 at 3:03 pm

That had to take days. No, weeks. Damn a really slow death.

Mumbletypeg October 5, 2011 at 2:29 pm

I'm confused. Rand Paul thinks the poor are getting rich faster than the rich, so the wrong people are doing the protesting. Stephen L. Carter thinks the Occupados are taking aim at a figment of their [his] imagination and expressing it in the wrong public space. Alison Kosik thinks it's not the space but lack of explicitly-stated objectives that the movement's flawed, and now Cain says the accused are innocent til proven innocent.

Word salad, meet pretzel logic.

Blueb4sunrise October 5, 2011 at 2:43 pm

Yeah…..and….?

freakishlywrong October 5, 2011 at 2:47 pm

Mmmmm..pretzel salad pizza.

Gleem_McShineys October 5, 2011 at 6:44 pm

Confused? MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! (Also, check out the media's codpiece!)

SexySmurf October 5, 2011 at 2:31 pm

I don't have the facts to back this up, but I believe Herman Cain is an asshole.

No wait, I actually do have the facts to back that up.

BaldarTFlagass October 5, 2011 at 2:44 pm

No facts necessary, it's just stone cold self-evident.

V572 Moon! October 5, 2011 at 2:34 pm

No, wait, he lost fair and square in 2008…oh, that guy. It didn't work out well for the mutineers.

weejee October 5, 2011 at 3:04 pm

Nope. Some get melted-down into bars of soap, while others run for president.

widestanceshakedown October 5, 2011 at 2:34 pm

'I don't have/need facts to back this up' is one hell of a platform.

deleted1797764 October 5, 2011 at 2:36 pm

Seems to be working for the rest of the contenders – though he is the only one to say it out loud.

SorosBot October 5, 2011 at 2:34 pm

Rarely has the wingnut philosophy of "I got mine, so fuck you" been so succinctly and honestly been stated by one of its sociopathic supporters.

Lionel[redacted]Esq October 5, 2011 at 2:35 pm

Just wait until Herman Cain finds out that the whole 'bagger movement was in fact a clever plot by Obama to make everyone on the right look like knee jerk reactionaries who are racist, sexist, boo soldiers, and like to dress up funny.

Of course, Herman Cain is probably just another Obama strategy. Has anyone seen his birth certificate? How do we know he is not a Kenyan Muslim Socialist?

SayItWithWookies October 5, 2011 at 2:36 pm

"I don't have facts — not because they're not there, but because they'd get in the way of my opinion. Which is…"

Cain's great at not having the facts. Yesterday he said he's never seen the long-established science that being gay isn't a choice, but still didn't let that stop him from asserting the opposite as though it was true.

One thing about leadership: if it's based on faith instead of facts, it's going to fuck you up eventually.

Crank_Tango October 5, 2011 at 3:34 pm

"Faith is a fact."

George Bluth, "Caged Wisdom"

mumbly_joe October 5, 2011 at 2:37 pm

I don’t have facts to back this up, but [...]

Best summary of the Republican Party circa 2011, to date.

jus_wonderin October 5, 2011 at 2:37 pm

Is "I don’t have facts to back this up" the new "nothing in my statement was intended to be factual"?

chicken_thief October 5, 2011 at 2:37 pm

Needz moar chilean models.

Mumbletypeg October 5, 2011 at 2:38 pm

Don’t blame Wall Street, don’t blame the big banks, if you don’t have a job and you’re not rich, blame yourself! It is not someone’s fault if they succeeded.

It's with this kind of rhetoric that Superhero Jesus won money lenders' hearts and spurned the downtrodden! Listen to Cain croon about it next time you give his gospel album a spin. He loves to tell the, uh, story.

Poindexter718 October 5, 2011 at 2:39 pm

I don't have facts to back this up, but:
* Obama is orchestrating the protests.
* Gardasil turns your kids into retards.
* Fed Chair Ben Bernanke is all quantitaitve easy, not b/c his lifetime of scholarly work suggests it's exactly the policy he would pursue under these circumstances but, rather, because he's in cahoots with Obama's campaign.
These guys in the GOP freakshow primary think they'll get elected if they just make shit up! (And they're prolly right.)

horsedreamer_1 October 8, 2011 at 7:06 pm

The Fed Chair is a slut? Ok, who replaced Bernanke with Terry from Reno911!?

DaRooster October 5, 2011 at 2:43 pm

"If you haven't figured out how to fuck people over buy ripping them off with shoddy ingredients or imported crap… you're on your own."

lowaltflier October 5, 2011 at 2:44 pm

I don’t have facts to back this up but…

Should be the opening statement for all candidate at the next Republican debate.

SheriffRoscoe October 5, 2011 at 2:44 pm

Don’t blame Wall Street, don’t blame the big banks, if you don’t have a job and you’re not rich, blame yourself! It is not someone’s fault if they succeeded.

Just like the "Sermon On The Mount," but with less blessing and more blaming.

ph7 October 5, 2011 at 2:57 pm

More like Sherman on the March than Sermon on the Mount

BaldarTFlagass October 5, 2011 at 2:57 pm

"Blessed are the pizza makers, for they will fuck you in the ass. With sand for lube."

fuflans October 5, 2011 at 2:46 pm

i see nancy grace is weighing in on the miscarriage of justice in the amanda knox case.

that has about as much relevance as herman cain's pronouncments on the economy.

Troglodeity October 5, 2011 at 2:49 pm

Martin Luther King: "I have a dream …"
Herman Cain: "I don't have facts to back this up, but I happen to believe …"

Sigh.

OneYieldRegular October 5, 2011 at 2:51 pm

I don't have facts to back this up, but Godfather's Pizza is made from recycled cardboard, pesticide-contaminated vegetables, and ground-up kittens.

jus_wonderin October 5, 2011 at 3:09 pm

Damn, and I lost the 2 for 1 coupon.

MOG2410 October 5, 2011 at 4:30 pm

Yum, kitten the new white meat.

imissopus October 5, 2011 at 4:57 pm

Until Herman Cain proves otherwise, I will assume this is true.

ph7 October 5, 2011 at 2:54 pm

Pillsbury appointed Cain as President and CEO of another subsidiary, Godfather's Pizza. Aiming to cut costs, Cain over a 14-month period reduced the company from 911 stores down to 420. As a result of his efforts, Godfather's Pizza finally became profitable.

The fired employees of the 491 pizza stores Cain shut down had no one to blame but themselves.

johnnyzhivago October 5, 2011 at 3:01 pm

So you're telling me that Cain is an agent of the Pillsbury Doughboy???

Eve8Apples October 5, 2011 at 3:19 pm

Golly, I thought wealthy Republicans were job CREATORS. Now I find out that GOP business people get rich by making other people poor. Well, I'll be a monkey's ass.

Doktor Zoom October 6, 2011 at 1:55 am

Question for the next R debate: "Mister Cain, how many employees had to be laid off in the closing of those 491 restaurants? How many new employees were added at the remaining 420 outlets? Over the course of those 14 months, how many people lost jobs for each new job created?"

BaldarTFlagass October 5, 2011 at 2:56 pm

I was beat out of a job to be executive of a national pizza chain as a result of Equal Opportunity by some big dopey black guy. I blame myself.

Radiodead October 5, 2011 at 2:59 pm

Me thinks he doth protest too much.
Srsly, why are they worried if they are just a bunch of unorganized hippies??

slowhansolo October 5, 2011 at 2:59 pm

Facts are meaningless. You can use facts to prove that just about ANYTHING is true.

baconzgood October 5, 2011 at 3:00 pm

Damn. Baconz missed a snark. I nodded off there at my desk.

HistoriCat October 5, 2011 at 3:21 pm

Twelve martini lunches will do that to you.

MOG2410 October 5, 2011 at 4:32 pm

Do they? That's so '80s.

baconzgood October 5, 2011 at 4:44 pm

For your information it was screwdrivers! And I had only 7.

DaRooster October 5, 2011 at 3:50 pm

Drink up!!

widestanceshakedown October 5, 2011 at 3:00 pm

Yet another pledge to sign: I don't have facts to back this up.

SorosBot October 5, 2011 at 3:03 pm

Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, L. Ron Hubbard, Zoroaster…

Chillwaver October 5, 2011 at 3:13 pm

Now I feel like a Herman Cain for deleting the the original post:

Oh, man…you know who else "don't have facts to back this up"?

JustPixelz October 5, 2011 at 3:07 pm

Why is this a surprise from a Repubican? "I don't have facts to back this up, but …
… global warming is a hoax."
… evolution is wrong."
… Obama wasn't born here."
… tax cuts create jobs."
… Ronald Reagan was the greatest president."
… Iraq had WMDs."

SorosBot October 5, 2011 at 3:16 pm

…I'm a legitimate candidate for the Republican nomination, not just a token the other Reps can point to to claim they're not racist.

Jukesgrrl October 5, 2011 at 5:59 pm

"…Harriet Miers is an excellent candidate for the Supreme Court."
"…George Tenet is a great American who deserves the Medal of Freedom."
"…Alberto Gonzales had legitimate reasons for firing the Justice Dept. attorneys."
"…those Muslins deserve to be in Gitmo without charges."
"…it's not the government's fault the levees broke."
"…Obama owes the Cheney family an apology."

baconzgood October 5, 2011 at 3:07 pm

I don’t have facts to back this up…..

Then it must be true. Is Hermie "I Wanna Be the Prez" Cain jockeying for position to take over Glenn "Bat Shit Insane" Beck's former slot on Faux-Noose. If'n so you gotta try harder to be crazy. There's Michele "Chisel Face" Bachmann and "Grifter Meth Cunt Media Whore" Sarah Palin. You have to >crazy Hermie to lead into Bill O.

notreelyhelping October 5, 2011 at 3:09 pm

It's sure good planning on this guy's part not to be born about 200 years ago. In the south. That's some serious strategery.

Indiepalin October 5, 2011 at 3:11 pm

Headline of the day (Foxnews):

"Circumcision Funding Cuts Hurt, Doctors Say"

poorgradstudent October 5, 2011 at 3:13 pm

Tough words from someone who didn't even build his own business but instead got it handed to him.

KeepFnThatChicken October 5, 2011 at 3:15 pm

Most people on the right who have facts to back something up, don't have facts to back something up.

Maman October 5, 2011 at 3:19 pm

Call me when you DO have facts.

Thedongsofwar October 5, 2011 at 3:21 pm

I don't have facts to back this up but Herman masturbates into the dough of every single Godfather Pizza.

Slim_Pickins October 5, 2011 at 3:21 pm

The lack of evidence that President Obama actively discouraged the protesters is evidence that he planned the demonstrations. This argument works every time. Cain should have used it to back up his claim.

MistaEko October 5, 2011 at 3:24 pm

The 9 most dangerous words in the English language are "I don't have facts to back this up, but"

similarly, "I'm from the government and you're on your own" always scared me a fucklot more.

user-of-owls October 5, 2011 at 3:26 pm

Herman Cain is the correct answer to the LSAT question:

"What does the phrase, 'assumes facts not in evidence' refer to?"

SpiderCrab October 5, 2011 at 3:26 pm

I don't have facts to back this up, but I believe Herman Cain embezzled most of his fortune from the Brother's Pizza Company.

Sassomatic October 5, 2011 at 3:27 pm

I wonder if Godfather's Pizza training videos tell employees to blame themselves for making minimum wage.

Slim_Pickins October 5, 2011 at 3:29 pm

He might as well become an author, no self-proclaimed Christian would vote for someone named Cain, anyway.

user-of-owls October 5, 2011 at 3:34 pm

Appropriate use of the future tense ("become") there.

owhatever October 5, 2011 at 3:36 pm

“I don’t have facts to back this up." Well, shit, Herman, don't let that stop you from saying it. Moron.

proudgrampa October 5, 2011 at 3:36 pm

Facts? I don' got to show you no steenkin' facts!!

Pithaughn October 5, 2011 at 3:40 pm

Okay, here's my new death bed wish: to wit. I'd like to see Elizabeth Warren take down this huckster in a televised debate. Cain can pick any topic except "how to exploit min wage earners in a shitty fast food franchise".

Antispandex October 5, 2011 at 3:41 pm

You know, some people might say that they have no facts to back it up, but they just FEEL that you, Mr.Cain, are an old Tom. Oh, and Hermie, the French Revolution started ffor a reasson…you might want to look into it, but I don't think Obama was President (or the king of France) back then.

gurukalehuru October 5, 2011 at 3:44 pm

Think about it. The Republicans don't even need to print new bumper stickers. A quick snip with a pair of scissors and McCain/Palin becomes Cain/Palin.

He truly IS the black Walnuts!

user-of-owls October 5, 2011 at 3:50 pm

And a second quick snip will give you Cain/Pain.

Not_So_Much October 5, 2011 at 3:48 pm

Any sentence that starts with 'I don't have facts to back this up', should never start.

user-of-owls October 5, 2011 at 3:49 pm

Say, Herman, who should a 96-year old black woman denied the right to vote blame?

DerrickWildcat October 5, 2011 at 3:53 pm

We are taking our country back from the people who want to take our country back!

horsedreamer_1 October 8, 2011 at 7:08 pm

Divorce laws?

Pithaughn October 5, 2011 at 3:54 pm

Maybe if you knew the entire Tea Party movement was orchestrated by someone like oh say, K rove, then naturally you would suspect another grass roots movement to also be as grass roots as a back street boys fan club.

hagajim October 5, 2011 at 3:55 pm

I don't have the facts to back this up, but I understand Herman Cain likes to have giant butt plugs shoved up his ass on a daily basis…how about that make shit up stuff!

BTWBFDIMHO October 5, 2011 at 3:55 pm

But if you don't have a job and you are rich, then you are Mitt Romney and blame yourself as well!

BlueStateLibel October 5, 2011 at 3:56 pm

Yeah, hippies, it's all YOUR OWN FAULT that the taxpayers didn't bail you out with trillions of government bailout $$$$ like those banks, blah, blah, blah.

Edited to edit: get off the hood of my limo.

emmelemm October 5, 2011 at 7:02 pm

Disperse from under my building or I'll pour champagne on your head!

Toomush_Infer October 5, 2011 at 3:56 pm

I believe this is the new certifiable slogan of the Grifting Old Poobahs: "I Don't Have Facts to Back This Up!", but then I started thinking about the other part of Brother Cain's argument about the poor, mainly that we should grow a pair and sell them, and I had this thought: what should be the limits of success? Is a hundred car undersea garage enough, or do we need a car for every day of the year? Are a hundred homes with a hundred rooms enough, or is this too strict a limit? Should Scrooge McDuck have only one vault? – it must be the mass conscious of the Occupiers reaching me here in Cheboygan, Michigan – I don't usually have thoughts anymore….

Jukesgrrl October 5, 2011 at 6:08 pm

America won't be finished with building wealth for the rich until every one of them has a golden miniature giraffe to walk their treadmill for them in a golden gym filled with ten-whore-diamond call girls and 120-foot TV screens. And don't forget the diamond-encrusted, self-flushing, heated toilets.

emmelemm October 5, 2011 at 6:56 pm

Bring back the miniature giraffe!

LiveToServeYa October 5, 2011 at 3:58 pm

This is not surprising, since facts have a liberal bias.

Naked_Bunny October 5, 2011 at 3:58 pm

Being unemployed certainly would be your own fault if those "right to work" laws actually did what the name implied.

emmelemm October 5, 2011 at 7:01 pm

Yeah, that's some double-plus-good-think-speak they've got going on there, for sure.

Guppy06 October 5, 2011 at 4:04 pm

I noticed something while having to glance at his Wikipedia article. While it's true his parents weren't rich, they weren't exactly sharecroppers either. Specifically, his father was a chauffeur, someone who had direct, personal contact to the kinds of people who could afford a chauffeur.

He has quite the collection of college degrees. Who paid for the degrees? How, exactly, did he get into prestigious private schools? Who was on the admissions boards? Who was on the scholarship boards? Did daddy drive any of them around?

emmelemm October 5, 2011 at 7:01 pm

Was there any… GASP… Affirmative Action involved???

Guppy06 October 5, 2011 at 8:08 pm

I think using personal connections to "lift himself up by his bootstraps" would be a more delicious form of hypocrisy than would Affirmative Action.

crybabyboehner October 5, 2011 at 4:15 pm

Those hippies would rather bang a bongo than deliver pizzas. Fuckin' commies.

obbop October 5, 2011 at 4:24 pm

"There's class warfare, all right, Mr. (Warren) Buffett said, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning."

DemonicRage October 5, 2011 at 4:29 pm

For years people have denounced the Republicans for being totally Racist (Southern Strategy, that old guy on Morning Joe who used to write speeches for Nixon and who manages to put his foot in his mouth about once a week by saying something Racist, Rick Perry's insulting rock inscription…….But now the Party has totally redeemed itself by nominating this SAGE to be their Presidential Candidate. Whoo Hoooo! What a rennaissance it's going to be, as soon as he is in the White House!!!

Jukesgrrl October 5, 2011 at 6:11 pm

Obama vs. Cain: A prescription for the lowest voter turnout in American history.

Boojum_Reborn October 5, 2011 at 4:35 pm

I don't have any facts to back this up, but I happen to believe that Herman Cain sucked Rick Santorum's balls while Cain was ass fucked by Lindsay Graham.

coolhandnuke October 5, 2011 at 4:39 pm

Twas dough, as in pizza, that gave Herman Cain's career life.
Now pure dope will make his political career flatline.

neiltheblaze October 5, 2011 at 5:09 pm

Well, it is the fault of the middle class and the poor. We keep refusing to pitchfork the rich and the politicians they purchase – and the media that keeps stifling real debate in this country – and really always has – even before it went "mass".

Do you think we could convince the Canadians to start giving US Americans political asylum? Is there such a thing as "sanity asylum" maybe?

HelmutNewton October 5, 2011 at 5:27 pm

“I don’t have facts to back this up…"

If reporters were honest, they would out this disclaimer before ANYTHING a teabagger says.

Jukesgrrl October 5, 2011 at 5:52 pm

Something tells me that the day Cain's book is released is the day the conservatives will stop the circle jerk that is their book-publishing ponzi scheme. Palin will Tweet, "Sorry, Herb, but you just have one teeny problem that makes you be not one of us."

Rotundo_ October 5, 2011 at 6:22 pm

I wish I could believe that, but Regnery and all the other vanity publishers for conservative claptrap will peddle this nonsense along with all of the rest of it, and sooner or later it will be remaindered out at dollar stores or given away for sending money off to one of the conservative websites or something. If nothing else, they burn pretty well when you get a good base of coals going under them and they'll heat Cheney's cabin or some shit. There is always a way of getting rid of the pallets of unread shit that they produce.

ttommyunger October 5, 2011 at 6:21 pm

Herman Cain=George W. Bush in blackface.

Swampgas_Man October 5, 2011 at 6:47 pm

It's not someone's fault if they succeeded. It IS their fault if they make sure everyone else fails.

Pat_Pending October 5, 2011 at 11:08 pm

I think "I don't have the facts to back this up" should be the new "All of them, Charlie."

Negropolis October 5, 2011 at 11:27 pm

I don’t have facts to back this up, but…

This is where you calmly get up and walk away from deranged person.

DahBoner October 6, 2011 at 7:31 am

"I don’t have facts to back this up"

Ass Mode: It's a way of life..

PartyMarty October 6, 2011 at 6:16 pm

"if you don’t have a job… blame yourself!"

If the unthinkable happens and this guy actually DOES capture the nomination (zero chance of that happening) or if the very thinkable happens and he's cynically tapped as the VP nominee, that quote is gonna be GOLD, baby, GOLD.

worrierqueen October 7, 2011 at 11:48 am

And if dead people weren't such pussies, there wouldn't be any dead people.

Fare la Volpe October 5, 2011 at 2:52 pm

Why do you think every Daddy's Little Frat Boy becomes an econ major?

mayor_quimby October 5, 2011 at 7:06 pm

Look on the bright side, you get to spend all day with children. That's cool until they hit about 7yrs old in my experience.

SorosBot October 5, 2011 at 3:50 pm

And that's another reason not to want to go to work in the financial sector; they are all giant douchebags there, I for one wouldn't want a job where I'm guaranteed to hate my coworkers.

The worst job interview I ever had was with a law firm that worked for investment companies, and the interviewer was just a total prick who implied there must be something wrong with me because I didn't go work for "Morgan Stanley or Goldman Sachs" after college.

Fare la Volpe October 5, 2011 at 10:53 pm

You should have retorted back, "Why would I work for them? I went to law school to actually follow the law."

Cicada October 5, 2011 at 11:17 pm

I think Ken writes stuff like that because it's easier than thinking, no joke. Snark doesn't thrive on shades of gray, after all.

The irony of the name "Wonkette" does not escape me. Perhaps a name change is in order, although "Simplistic Rhetoric-ette" doesn't really roll off the tongue.

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