OUR FLOURISHING JUSTICE SYSTEM  9:53 am September 22, 2011

Troy Davis Execution Is Wingnut Chance To Talk Abortion, Obamacare

by Kirsten Boyd Johnson

National pastimes die hard.The Napoleonic legal theory of “guilty until proven innocent, suckers” won a major victory for racism in the United States legal system last night with the execution of Troy Davis, a black man from Georgia convicted of the murder of a white police officer 22 years ago and sentenced to death under deeply dubious circumstances that has made everyone from the former director of the FBI to even the crazy Nazi Pope go, “R U F*#KING SERIOUS, AMERICA.” Yes, America is very serious about executing people, any people it can find! It is actually the only form of “American exceptionalism” left, since the U.S. is the last first world country to cling to the death penalty. While most sane people can recognize this as a pathetic failure of justice, the reliable crowd of violent sociopath wingnuts who crowd Twitter with incessant piles of garbage would like to weigh in and say, eh, “Since when is the death penalty a justice issue? It’s Obamacare and abortion discussion time, for no reason except racism.” Naturally.

THE PROFESSIONAL IDIOT SQUAD WEIGHS IN:

Yes, why hasn’t NBC been reporting on all of its employees’ medical issues instead of discussing really anything else at all? That is the important thing here.

Yeah, everybody, there was a white guy who died. Why has everyone forgotten that a white guy died? A WHITE GUY. WHY IS EVERYONE FOCUSING ON THE BLACK GUY.

This whole case, it is about Obamacare. OBAMACARE KILLED TROY DAVIS.

Ugh. Just go look at the Think Progress collection of protester photos, to preserve your sanity. Not everyone in America is insane. [AP/ Twitter]

 
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Sue4466 September 22, 2011 at 9:57 am

If it's Thursday, it must be false equivalency day!

BaldarTFlagass September 22, 2011 at 9:59 am

I thought EVERY day was false equivalency day, with these yobbos.

Lascauxcaveman September 22, 2011 at 11:31 am

No, silly. Only those days ending in 'y.'

Mumbletypeg September 22, 2011 at 10:13 am

Seriously… between this and the Clinton-backwards-invalidation rationale days ago, we're seeing a groundswell of stoopid across the calendar.

mumbly_joe September 22, 2011 at 11:56 am

Honestly, there's a common social-psychological thread here, and also with the whole "Obama's an illegal kenyan because we don't like his ideas" thing: Teabaggers, believe in a shame culture, like that thing people used to "other-ize" muslims back when we were looking for an excuse to invade Iraq. In essence, they believe that the only thing that matters is subjective, external conditions like societal condemnation, whereas modern Western standards of justice concern themselves with objective, internal measures such as 'guilt'. To the teabagger, living in a shame culture, it doesn't matter whether someone is guilty or not

Mumbletypeg September 22, 2011 at 12:36 pm

For me: how interesting the contrast, with yesterday's display of 'tards running illogical loops around their willful ignorance of evidence [of climate change]; then today those voices ride roughshod over protests that decry lack of [physical] evidence to condemn Troy. Their logical jumps over & around the obvious just astounds me.
Culturally, from what you're saying, I realize demonization of otherliness is nothing new here – - that ilk will twist the means to fit their end – - your post makes me wonder how this "shame" culture departs in expression within places like Japan.. (at the risk of total departure from your point) a place where it manifests differently and feeds a different purpose such as "propriety"'s sake; whereas here, 'shame' in the land of the free gets full license to serve bigotry, xenophobia and sociopathology for a loose network of individuals out to 'prove' the prevail-itude of their backwards morals.

ShaveTheWhales September 22, 2011 at 12:58 pm

Shorter: they're fucking assholes.

Omophagist September 22, 2011 at 10:15 am

Wld be nice if those who didn't trust the gov't to get it right on healthcare felt the same way with our gov't making decisions on death penalty.

chicken_thief September 22, 2011 at 12:00 pm

Consistency of logic for Tea Baggers?! Aha. Ahahahaha. AhahhHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Gleem_McShineys September 22, 2011 at 2:21 pm

There is consistency there!

It just happens to be the consistency of diarrhea.

Dr_Zoidberg September 22, 2011 at 10:20 am

And wouldn't you know it, I left my delusions at home today!

kissawookiee September 22, 2011 at 11:29 am

Thursday is TOTALLY Monday! Never Forget!

jqheywood September 22, 2011 at 11:50 am

Nevar Forget!

Fixed.

mumbly_joe September 22, 2011 at 11:57 am

Why, yes, there is a GOP debate today, now that you mention it.

GOPCrusher September 22, 2011 at 1:00 pm

Don't quite grasp the wingnut outrage over why the Lawrence Brewer execution didn't get the same level of protest as Troy Davis's.
Perhaps it had something to do with the fact that Brewer was bragging about being a White Supremist scumbag that dragged a black man behind his pickup truck, while Troy Davis denied his guilt as part of his final words.

Sue4466 September 22, 2011 at 1:41 pm

Or perhaps it had to do with Brewer being white, his victim black, and thus the outrage over his execution should be more! Oy vey.

Though part of it is that the anti-death penalty movement has shifted to making arguments about why the death penalty is wrong *in this particular case* rather than opposing the death penalty in all cases. I oppose it in all cases. I'm surprised that right wingers–who say they want limited government–seem okie dokie with giving the government the power to kill its own citizens (while simultaneously denying said citizens the right to kill themselves).

The right is all about a culture of life, after all.

Barb September 22, 2011 at 9:58 am

'We need to execute people like (John Walker Lindh) in order to physically intimidate liberals.''
—Ann Coulter
I'd call her a "cunt" but I don't think she has one.

V572 Moon! September 22, 2011 at 10:07 am

She bought those boobs; no reason she couldn't get herself a twat if (s)he wanted one.

BaldarTFlagass September 22, 2011 at 10:09 am

Strange, I thought "she" was headed in the opposite direction.

V572 Moon! September 22, 2011 at 10:15 am
mookwrthwilson September 22, 2011 at 10:24 am

She went from a skanky hag to a skanky hag with tits…what an improvement.

chicken_thief September 22, 2011 at 12:10 pm

I saw her on Bill Maher and her tits looked real. Not that she whipped them out, but they moved "naturally" when she leaned forward/sat back and did that head whip thing to get her stringy mane out of her face. Not that I was focused on them or anything. I mean I did glance, but, you know…. appropriately…

Ok, ok. I admit it. I like tits. And hers looked pretty good, espeshually for a man. Besides, what was I supposed to look at – her Adams Apple?!

Texan_Bulldog September 22, 2011 at 10:13 am

I imagine it's got teeth like a bear trap that snaps shut on the poor unsuspecting dude's dick…which is why this lovely blonde, blue-eyed paragon of virtue is still single! (Oh, and the whole being a class A bitch.)

V572 Moon! September 22, 2011 at 10:39 am

She's known to have dated Bill Maher and Mickey Kaus. This explains a lot.

snoopyfan2010 September 22, 2011 at 1:21 pm

I thought Maher liked his women with a little color.

freakishlywrong September 22, 2011 at 10:33 am

Her Adam's apple is filled with bile. One wishes she'd choke on it.

metamarcisf September 22, 2011 at 10:34 am

I'd call her an "asshole" but I don't think she has one.

glamourdammerung September 22, 2011 at 10:37 am

What do you think he/it is screeching out of?

PsycWench September 22, 2011 at 11:44 am

because she's full of shit?

DashboardBuddha September 22, 2011 at 1:20 pm

She has one…but it's called an Annhole.

Maman September 22, 2011 at 11:36 am

She might not have one, but she is one.

Pat_Pending September 22, 2011 at 11:50 am

at least the stupid whore is beginning to resemble Patsy Stone in last episode of AbFab.

Isyaignert September 22, 2011 at 2:32 pm

Man Coulter needs to shave his Adam's apple.

arihaya September 22, 2011 at 6:30 pm

HE HE HE !! it is "HE" and not "SHE"

zhubajie September 22, 2011 at 6:41 pm

An ovipositor, perhaps?

x111e7thst September 22, 2011 at 9:58 am

I refuse to have anything to do with Michelle Malkin unless she is wearing her cheerleader outfit and shaking her pom poms.

BaldarTFlagass September 22, 2011 at 9:58 am

If this had happened in Texas, we could say "Faster Perrycat! Kill! Kill!"

iburl September 22, 2011 at 10:08 am

This has happened in Texas. Many Times.

BaldarTFlagass September 22, 2011 at 10:10 am

Actually, I think it happened as recently as yesterday.

BerkeleyBear September 22, 2011 at 11:09 am

Well, he was scheduled for 3 – count em! – in one week, which would have resulted in massive TP spooging at the Florida debate/panderfest next week, but that pesky Supreme Court delayed 2 of them (the black dudes whose convictions were marred by racial animum). But he still got 1 – and for once, one where the racism was in the crime (dragging Mr. Byrd behind a truck) not the punishment. So he's still a death penalty All-Star, and on pace to be the Hank Aaron of killing in the US, just not the Barry Bonds/Mark McGwire (compelete with needles) of the death penalty.

FakaktaSouth September 22, 2011 at 9:58 am

Every Ann Coulter statement ever:
I am trying to say something so ridiculous and "offensive," so out of bounds, so impertinent and yet somehow still so trite, simplistic, and cliche that people will have to talk about me.
NOTICE ME NOTICE ME MAKE ME RELEVANT.

AND Crap. I just did it. Whatever. She sucks.

PsycWench September 22, 2011 at 10:16 am

The "tantrum theory" proven true once more.

jodyleek September 22, 2011 at 10:42 am

And, to top it off, she wears a cross and spouts the most evil shit, for fun and profit! Jokes on us, I guess.

glamourdammerung September 22, 2011 at 10:44 am

Erickson likes to go on about following "the Lord's will" in between bearing false witness against folks (like claiming Souter was a "goat fucking child molester").

hagajim September 22, 2011 at 10:43 am

Has Sarah been taking lessons from her?

whiskeybaby September 22, 2011 at 11:58 am

She truly is the Westboro Baptist Church of humans

Sparky_McGruff September 22, 2011 at 9:59 am

As usual, Erick Erickson sees a valid point, then makes a U-turn and drives a few blocks away. If Obamarcare soshulist medisuns is as terrible as he says, well… it can be fixed. If the state of Jaw-Juh botched the trial of Troy Davis, well, too bad.

Oh, nevermind. There's more brown skinned people where he came from, so who really cares if the trial was botched. He's obviously guilty — just look at his face (hint: it's black). If it wasn't that crime, well, he was certainly guilty of something else.

Sue4466 September 22, 2011 at 10:54 am

Some halfwit today said there's no point talking about whether Troy Davis was innocent or not. Because he's dead, so it's "all water under the bridge." Because this will never ever happen again. The end.

And, by the same halfwit logic, there was never any reason to prosecute anyone for the cop's death because dead = water under bridge, let's move on!

Gratuitous World September 22, 2011 at 9:59 am

because i disagree politically with many supporters of a possibly innocent man, he should be executed.

holy shit that's gross

Doktor Zoom September 22, 2011 at 10:14 am

Don't be ridiculous. Innocent people don't get executed, or even convicted. Why would an innocent person ever be accused of a crime?

Also, what are you hiding?

SorosBot September 22, 2011 at 10:23 am

Nancy Grace, is that you?

weejee September 22, 2011 at 10:30 am

Wake up poodles, chip implants are coming – PerryTrakin' is much better than Obamacare.

V572 Moon! September 22, 2011 at 10:40 am

Or, in the case of a certain person of color, deported.

chicken_thief September 22, 2011 at 12:16 pm

You'd think that seeing former FBI Director Sessions name on the list of "Let's Take Another Look at This Conviction" might make them reconsid….. wait, I forget who we were talking about here. Never mind.

Not_So_Much September 22, 2011 at 12:27 pm

They love them some Jeebus! But that one 'shalt not kill' commandment seems to be inconvenient for them.

Rosie_Scenario September 22, 2011 at 9:59 am

R.I.P., Troy Davis. A sad day as another person is murdered by the state (GA this time), in our name.

BarackMyWorld September 22, 2011 at 10:00 am

Consider this…At some point in the future, a black person who works for MSNBC may use Obamacare to get an abortion. And then the circle will be complete.

PsycWench September 22, 2011 at 10:18 am

I'm sure no white person who works for Fox has used any form of insurance for an abortion. Probably a lot of "D&C"s though.

MildMidwesterner September 22, 2011 at 10:20 am

I think Georgia did Troy Davis a favor by saving him from the perils of Obamacare.

Limeylizzie September 22, 2011 at 10:35 am

Tamron Hall is pregnant? Which of you is responsible?

V572 Moon! September 22, 2011 at 10:40 am

It was awesome.

Limeylizzie September 22, 2011 at 10:51 am

You and Chet Kincaid will have to vie for paternity.

Chet Kincaid September 22, 2011 at 10:41 am

We're calling the baby "Chyron."

Limeylizzie September 22, 2011 at 10:50 am

Excellent, she looked insanely hot the other day she had on a tight, cream skirt and knee-high boots and some kind of form-fitting blouse, she has an amazing body.

Chet Kincaid September 22, 2011 at 10:55 am

Are you the creamy center of a Chet-Lizzie-Tamron Éclair?

mayor_quimby September 22, 2011 at 12:21 pm

Shit, I'm late to the party, but still open to Sloppy Thirds.

BerkeleyBear September 22, 2011 at 11:14 am

And if they admitted it on air, while condemning an execution of a person convicted under dubious circumstances, the resulting mushroom cloud of right wing exploding heads could be seen from space. Awesome!

mereoblivion September 22, 2011 at 10:00 am

"USA An Even Stinkier Shithole Than We Were 12 Hours Ago"

metamarcisf September 22, 2011 at 10:00 am

Wld be nice if those who trust gov't to get it right on the death penalty felt the same way with gov't making our healthcare decisions.

Rosie_Scenario September 22, 2011 at 10:01 am

QUOTE (TWEET) FOR THE DAY:
"I refuse to believe corporations are people until Texas executes one." –
Ara Rubya

V572 Moon! September 22, 2011 at 10:16 am

Been there, done that, Enron.

See? The system works!

Tundra Grifter September 22, 2011 at 11:38 am

V572 Moon!

I believe the free market did in Enron – not the state of Texas.

V572 Moon! September 22, 2011 at 11:52 am

True. It was Arthur Anderson Consulting that got the DP, and that was from los federales

snoopyfan2010 September 22, 2011 at 1:16 pm

And I thought it was common greed and selfishness that screwed both of them up. Where do I get this misinformation from???

Sparky_McGruff September 22, 2011 at 10:27 am

I refuse to believe corporations are people until Texas executes an entire board of directors. Or at least a CEO or two.

DaRooster September 22, 2011 at 10:46 am

Next move Pick Parry?

DalePues September 22, 2011 at 10:59 am

Thanks! something like that has been causing my scalp to itch for a while now. Corporations are not people, that is…..seems like that would be pretty easy to prove, yet it may take the kind quote you posted for the fact to penetrate the scalp.

Respitetini September 22, 2011 at 10:01 am

I look at those kids camped out on Wall St. and think maybe there's some hope for our country. Then crap like this and I wonder if we ought to bother.

GOPCrusher September 22, 2011 at 1:09 pm

Like they said on Keith Olbermann last night, if they were Tea Baggers, every media outlet on the planet would be broadcasting about it. Instead it's a group of people pointing out the obvious, that unfettered capitalism is the root of all evil, and it doesn't even get a blurb in the New York Times.

GhostBuggy September 22, 2011 at 10:01 am

Don't forget all the people pointing out he had 22 years to "prove his innocence." Some real legal scholars, there.

not that Dewey September 22, 2011 at 10:43 am

Sisyphus was framed!

OneYieldRegular September 22, 2011 at 12:32 pm

It's a wonder that they still know how to breathe.

CZL September 22, 2011 at 12:59 pm

Except after a conviction, where the state had the burden of proof, the burden shifts to a habeas applicant claiming actual innocence to establish that innocence by clear and convincing evidence.

If you're not a lawyer, don't pretend to understand post-conviction procedure.

Fare la Volpe September 22, 2011 at 3:32 pm

REWR! Someone's brought her kitty claws today.

BaldarTFlagass September 22, 2011 at 10:02 am

Sarah is mad that Alaska doesn't have a death penalty for her to have used during her half-term. "I'd-a mowed 'em down!"

Biel_ze_Bubba September 22, 2011 at 11:34 am

From a helicopter.

Come here a minute September 22, 2011 at 10:02 am

Stupid librulz don't want gov to kill murdrer but want to kill jerb createrz with big tax!

YasserArraFeck September 22, 2011 at 10:03 am

OK, sure, the black guy got killed, but the real victim here is Lou Sarah. Where is her Twitter comment, hmm? Why do you hate her? Why do you hate America?

fuflans September 22, 2011 at 10:44 am

she's keeping a low profile so her poll numbers go up.

SorosBot September 22, 2011 at 11:05 am

She's probably just going through a depressive phase; once her bipolar disorder has her back in manic mode she'll be saying incredibly stupid and offensive things again.

EatsBabyDingos September 22, 2011 at 10:03 am

Why do zygotes matter to pro-lifers, but not the afterbirth we call humanity?

ManchuCandidate September 22, 2011 at 10:10 am

Because they cost too damn much, but mostly because they believe that women shouldn't have ANY choices whatsoever.

MissTaken September 22, 2011 at 11:58 am

Because zygotes don't have the nasty brown skin yet that much of humanity has.

chicken_thief September 22, 2011 at 12:20 pm

Or fucked up religions like the Jooz, Muslins, and Boodists. Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ!!! Jesus Christ!!!!

Redhead September 22, 2011 at 12:51 pm

And there's still a 50-50 chance the zygote will turn out to be a man. Once it's a born person, you KNOW it's a woman/brown/muslin/etc, and not a white Christian man, so you can do whatever you want!

Captain_Quark September 22, 2011 at 10:03 am

This is why we must work diligently to keep Sharia law from being established here. In that barbaric system, people are put to death by stoning. Civilized societies like ours use lethal injection, because that's what Jesus meant when he said no sinner can cast the first stone.

YasserArraFeck September 22, 2011 at 10:07 am

"….let he who is without sin swab the spot with an alcohol pad and stick the first IV….."

The prose lacks a certain majesty, indeed

Tundra Grifter September 22, 2011 at 11:40 am

Larry "Bubbles" Brown asked why they bother with the alcohol swab?

BaldarTFlagass September 22, 2011 at 10:12 am

Just imagine, if the technology had existed, all the Christians today would be worshipping a syringe instead of a cross. Or a cute little electric chair pendant around the neck.

Chichikovovich September 22, 2011 at 11:44 am

Two little vials of potassium cyanide and sulphuric acid on a chain could be quite chic.

Doktor Zoom September 22, 2011 at 10:17 am

Frankly, I think that churches would look a lot more interesting if Jesus had been drawn and quartered.

BaldarTFlagass September 22, 2011 at 10:26 am

Impalement would have simplified the architecture considerably.

Crucifixion's a dawdle.

not that Dewey September 22, 2011 at 10:27 am

They could worship the Holy Quartenary!

kissawookiee September 22, 2011 at 11:36 am

The Mesozoic might have a thing or two to say about that. Of course, it's of the Devil.

BaldarTFlagass September 22, 2011 at 12:04 pm

Paleozoic=Trilobites=Satan's Waterbugs.

Biel_ze_Bubba September 22, 2011 at 11:36 am

I dunno … Easter would have been sort of gross.

not that Dewey September 22, 2011 at 12:44 pm

But Communion would be a lot easier.

Chichikovovich September 22, 2011 at 11:53 am

The resurrection story would also be more compelling in that case. Especially if, for comic relief, the left and right legs got mixed up. Then Christ could tell Peter: "Three times before the cock crows you will laugh and call me 'stumbles'. And Peter would be, like, "No way Lord, you must be confusing me with Thaddeus or Bartholomew". But you know old Rocky, he just couldn't help himself sometimes.

Lascauxcaveman September 22, 2011 at 1:42 pm

Heh. "Rocky." LOL.

not that Dewey September 22, 2011 at 10:30 am

The Market is Speaking. If even Holy Capitalism doesn't see the percentage in state-sponsored executions, perhaps it is an idea whose time has gone?

SorosBot September 22, 2011 at 11:59 am

It's very important to make sure that executions are as safe, painless and comfortable as possible for the executioner.

GunToting[Redacted] September 22, 2011 at 12:36 pm

Some are arguing that a more humane way to execute someone would be a bullet to the head. There appears to be enough evidence that lethal injection results in pain and suffering for the executed, while shooting someone at close range with the correct round is nearly foolproof. Of course, this would result in some messy cleanup, and would also serve to bring home the fact that we are, you know, killing a guy. Giving someone a shot just doesn't produce the same visceral feelings.

Biel_ze_Bubba October 3, 2011 at 1:02 pm

The guillotine has a lot to recommend it, if these are your primary concerns.

AlterNewt September 22, 2011 at 10:04 am

Evidence, schmevidence.

Poindexter718 September 22, 2011 at 10:05 am

Erickson, you venal fat feck, here's a better question that doesn't rely on your bogus premise: Why do conservatives, who generally believe the government gets NOTHING right have this innate faith in its infallability when it comes to capital punishment?

Crank_Tango September 22, 2011 at 10:07 am

because most people executed have the brown?

YasserArraFeck September 22, 2011 at 10:09 am

because not all Death Panels are bad?

You see, the 'Baggers are indeed capable of nuanced thinking

Doktor Zoom September 22, 2011 at 1:23 pm

They think the death panels run by insurance companies do a fine job.

LetUsBray September 22, 2011 at 10:13 am

Hey, they have the same faith when it comes to invading random countries for dubious reasons.

The right just distrust the government when it comes to helping people. When it's to be used to hurt or, better yet, kill people, why, that's FREEDOM!!!11!

PsycWench September 22, 2011 at 10:21 am

"It's the next best thing to shooting them myself"

prommie September 22, 2011 at 10:50 am

Typical conservatives have no faith at all in the courts. But they have complete faith in the doctrine of police infallibility. They looove authority and force and power, and therefore the sight of armed men in blue uniforms makes their groinal areas tingle. The courts, they are just typical bumbling mddling government, but the police (and the soldiers), they are manly heroes who do no wrong, and they have no connection to the government.

Crank_Tango September 22, 2011 at 10:08 am

History is gonna love all you assholes.

KeepFnThatChicken September 22, 2011 at 10:22 am

Not if it won't be permitted to talk about a history, of course.

V572 Moon! September 22, 2011 at 10:09 am

Troy Davis was a black man from Savannah. Clarence Thomas is a black man from Savannah (well, Pin Point, a suburb thereof). Does this mean anything?

Bob fucking Barr and his weird mustache were against this. What does it take to persuade these people?

MildMidwesterner September 22, 2011 at 10:22 am

I think it means that Paula Deen is a black man from Savannah.

BaldarTFlagass September 22, 2011 at 10:47 am

And Lady Chablis, too.

V572 Moon! September 22, 2011 at 12:00 pm

Man, I adore Savannah. "The Book" (as Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil is called there) only began to do it justice, and the movie was not nearly so good as that.

Paula Deen's place is a chancre on a great city, serving TGI Friday's-style food to pathetic tourists who actually line up to to go into her cholesterol-delivery unit.

Elizabeth's on 37th, on the other hand, serves spectacular meals without pretense in a beautiful old house.

babyeinstein September 22, 2011 at 11:29 am

today, we all have weird mustaches.

ProudLibunatic September 22, 2011 at 10:54 am

I saw that, and had to do a double take. Bob Barr?! THE Bob Barr?! Wow!

Lascauxcaveman September 22, 2011 at 1:47 pm

I think Bob Barr is just standing on the core Libertarian value that it's OK to kill cops, if you feel it necessary.

chicken_thief September 22, 2011 at 12:23 pm

Clearly Barr has been drinkin the koolaid. He'll come to his senses after a spell. And if he doesn't, well, it don't really matter any more.

littlebigdaddy September 22, 2011 at 10:10 am

I would not be surprised if one of the Repug candidates suggested that we bring back public execution, you know, for the lulz.

Swampgas_Man September 22, 2011 at 10:15 am

They'd bring back crucifixion if they didn't find it blasphemous.

ProudLibunatic September 22, 2011 at 10:55 am

YEAH!

BaldarTFlagass September 22, 2011 at 11:08 am

"Well, you did say 'Jehovah'."

Chichikovovich September 22, 2011 at 11:56 am

Just to be on the safe side, I wouldn't go gathering any sticks on a Sunday if Perry becomes prez.

OneYieldRegular September 22, 2011 at 12:36 pm

What do you think this was, if not primarily for Republican "lulz"?

Beowoof September 22, 2011 at 12:58 pm

Oh they plan to raise money to do more by making them pay per view. No tax No tax No tax, kill the browns on TV.

AJWjr. September 22, 2011 at 1:09 pm

Bake sales!

GOPCrusher September 22, 2011 at 1:45 pm

Absolutely. But I don't think it would be for the lulz.

LetUsBray September 22, 2011 at 10:10 am

Someone got executed. Even better, someone who's not white. Even better yet, someone who possibly isn't even guilty. Figures Teabag Nation would be walking around with sticky shorts this morning.

not that Dewey September 22, 2011 at 10:42 am

They got their country back.

102415 September 22, 2011 at 3:21 pm

They sure the fuck did didn't they?

babyeinstein September 22, 2011 at 11:30 am

Eeeewwwwwwwww!

glamourdammerung September 22, 2011 at 10:12 am

It would be nice if the same morons that cry about how the government is never to be trusted did not scream about how the government is always correct when executing black men.

SayItWithWookies September 22, 2011 at 10:58 am

If it's any consolation, most of them are perfectly comfortable with a certain — um — degree of error.

Swampgas_Man September 22, 2011 at 10:13 am

Nope, that's punditry.

OneYieldRegular September 22, 2011 at 12:29 pm

Nope, that's murder.

Goonemeritus September 22, 2011 at 10:14 am

It’s interesting that conservatives line up so closely on this issue with Chairman Mao who felt capital punishment was the one indispensible tool of the state. And yes I don’t trust any government with this power and no I don’t have a problem with single payer healthcare. Republican’s need to change their elevator speech to “Totalitarianism it’s worth another look”.

Sue4466 September 22, 2011 at 10:15 am

I'm a bit astonished having talked to some right winger who says that we should trust the PROFESSIONALS (his caps, not mine) to know more about the case and to have gotten it right. Because the GOP is all about trusting the government when it comes to killing the browns and restricting women's reproduction, but not so much on regulating safe cars, food, or children's toys.

joobajooba September 22, 2011 at 11:54 am

Since when is a jury PROFESSIONAL?

chicken_thief September 22, 2011 at 12:43 pm

Natural confusion with civil suits involving major corporations.

Sue4466 September 22, 2011 at 1:45 pm

Yeah, there's the problem, trying to find logic or factual basis for right wing stupidity. Ain't gonna work.

GOPCrusher September 22, 2011 at 1:47 pm

WHAT DOES OSHA KNOW ABOUT WORKER SAFETY?????

sezme September 22, 2011 at 2:07 pm

I think you've summed up the GOP platform which has nothing to do with trusting or not trusting the government, and everything to do with fucking the powerless. See, it suddenly makes complete sense.

Sue4466 September 22, 2011 at 2:18 pm

Yours is more succinct.

KeepFnThatChicken September 22, 2011 at 10:15 am

We have to import the killing chemical now. "American Exceptionalism" indeed.

not that Dewey September 22, 2011 at 10:38 am

Except that there is no country willing to export.

Conundrum!

Lascauxcaveman September 22, 2011 at 1:51 pm

I bet we can still get it from the Germans.

not that Dewey September 22, 2011 at 4:19 pm

Or the British and the Austrians. This is pretty fucked up:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/23/letha

Last year, California and Arizona illicitly obtained supplies of the drug, manufactured in Austria, from a UK wholesaler, Dream Pharma, which had obtained it from the British licence holder, Archimedes Pharma UK. Arizona used the drug in the execution of a man in October. After an outcry, the British government imposed export controls on the drug in November to prevent its use in executions.

SorosBot September 22, 2011 at 10:16 am

As Antonin Scalia said, "There is no basis in text, tradition, or even in contemporary practice (if that were enough), for finding in the Constitution a right to demand judicial consideration of newly discovered evidence of innocence brought forward after conviction." Who cares if the guy was actually guilty or not, there's some killin' to be done, time to celebrate!

James Michael Curley September 22, 2011 at 11:24 am

I sincerely hope that Scalia quote is a joke.

Biel_ze_Bubba September 22, 2011 at 11:37 am

Keep wishing … that's what the prick actually said.

Lascauxcaveman September 22, 2011 at 1:57 pm

Because he knows the Constitution, in its original text, having been anointed by the tears of angels and the holy urine of The Lord, is perfect in every way and has never been edited, changed or amended and never will be because it's perfect andneverchanges and only things that are EXPLICITLY WRITTEN DOWN BLAHBLAHBLAH NANANA NANANANANANANANA I CAN"T HEEEEAR YOU!!!!!!

This is our long-sitting Associate Justice Scalia's position in a nutshell.

James Michael Curley September 22, 2011 at 2:39 pm

I read the opinion. From now on I’m telling people I’m a fry cook.

Sue4466 September 22, 2011 at 11:43 am

It is not. It is an awful awful reality.

SorosBot September 22, 2011 at 11:46 am

Nope! http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/91-7328.ZC1

He also says in the opinion that such judicial revue is unneccessary because "it is improbable that evidence of innocence as convincing as today's opinion requires would fail to produce an executive pardon." Try telling that to Rick Perry and Georgia's current governor (whoever that is). Oh and the appellant in that case was executed just a few months later too. What a wonderful country this is.

Chichikovovich September 22, 2011 at 12:01 pm

Georgia is one of three states that do not allow executive clemency by the governor. (After the out-of-control power grabs of the Talmadge governorship, the Georgia legislature scaled back the governor's powers immensely.) But Scalia is like a soooper-genius, we are constantly assured, so I'm sure he knew that.

Sue4466 September 22, 2011 at 2:21 pm

Because political expediency being prized above any other goal by every politician, killing some poor is worth it to secure re-election.

I believe the adage is something like, it is far better that one innocent man be executed than for a politician to risk losing an election.

Biel_ze_Bubba October 3, 2011 at 1:08 pm

"Your life, vs. my re-election. Sorry dude … priorities, you know?"

Tundra Grifter September 22, 2011 at 11:44 am

SorosBot:

One could respond to Justice Scalia that the US Constitution forbids "unusual punishment."

However, since executing possibly innocent people is becoming more common…

SorosBot September 22, 2011 at 11:57 am

It's probably been just as common forever; but thanks to modern technology it's easier to prove someone innocent now than it used to be. Stopping their execution, however, is a different story.

AJWjr. September 22, 2011 at 1:18 pm

Isn't he the guy who sez torture isn't punishment, it's just interrogation? So if we re-classify executions as interrogations, no problem!

An_Outhouse September 22, 2011 at 12:13 pm

Maybe its time for a basis to be inserted in the text and practice. "newly discovered evidence of innocence" sounds like a Big Fucking Deal.

Beowoof September 22, 2011 at 1:02 pm

Innocence really, in case you didn't notice he's black.

UnholyMoses September 22, 2011 at 3:38 pm

Um … so if that's the case, why the fuck do we have a system of appeals courts? Aren't they there to provide "'judicial consideration of newly discovered evidence of innocence brought forward after conviction."

Or did I miss something … ?

And would it be wrong for me to wish for Scalia to get hit by a bus? A big one. Going somewhere just short of the speed of light (to ensure they can't find all the bits).

Also, too: Looooonnnnnggggg time lurker (from all the way back in the "All Buttfucking, All the Time" days) and this is my first ever post.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have pieces of cherry to clean up. brb

Texan_Bulldog September 22, 2011 at 10:16 am

Come on Ann, Michelle & Erick. Where's the love for Lawrence Brewer? He also got the needle last night.

I just want to know who at MSNBC got an abortion? Dylan Ratigan? Lawrence O'Donnell?

Sparky_McGruff September 22, 2011 at 10:32 am

Rachel Maddow gets a gay abortion every Friday night, on the air — didn't you know?

Frost/Nixon/Robocop September 22, 2011 at 10:17 am

Stop preaching class warfare, even when someone ACTUALLY IS KILLED BECAUSE OF HIS CLASS!

V572 Moon! September 22, 2011 at 12:20 pm

Watch Elizabeth Warren talk about class warfare. Good stuff.

KeepFnThatChicken September 22, 2011 at 10:17 am

Erickson, great new low there. Troy's dead, and you use it to excuse your healthcare rant.

Karma kept my ideals in check for a while a while. Now that I realize there may be no karma, I believe you really need a good ass-whipping.

glamourdammerung September 22, 2011 at 10:21 am

I could think that the guy was totally guilty and just the absolute filth of the Earth and not been as gleeful about this as these cretins. How does one get so morally depraved as to look at a murder and cheer it on?

jodyleek September 22, 2011 at 10:38 am

Those good Christian folks, casting the first stone and extolling Pontius Pilate to "kill him"…what a virtuous bunch! Blech.

I declare it "Punch a hypocritical Xtian in the gut" Day.

Mumbletypeg September 22, 2011 at 10:50 am

part nature, part nurture… the ghoul in their genes + the 'troll' in their upbringing.. b/c clearly they reap satisfaction from not just pouncing on an opportunity to troll, but anticipate it even; that, & any compassion-resembling impulse must've gotten scrubbed out with some mutantly devolving strain of antipathy.

I'm w/ you: I try to think whether I've experienced *that* level of desire to dance on someone's grave or someone's misfortune. I think it comes down to a distinction between righteous anger vs. hate-driven grandstanding. With so many bilious ragers in their audience they only get rewarded for their efforts and the cycle fuels itself.

Biel_ze_Bubba September 22, 2011 at 11:39 am

Yeah … it's not as if he failed to purchase health insurance or anything.

102415 September 22, 2011 at 3:28 pm

They got a lot of practice during "Operation iraquiFreedoms! Acomplished."

Mumbletypeg September 22, 2011 at 10:21 am

ERICK-san, you wisecracker — surely you jest. Isn't there a wildfire or twenty over Texas-way you could apply your false metric to? Some *Gawd*-beseeching prayer warriors "can't get it right" down there either: if you can't help them save face, save your own by driving that direction anyway.. and just keep driving…

jodyleek September 22, 2011 at 10:21 am

Didn't Jesus say something about what you do to the least of these, so have you done to me? Seems like the devil went down to Georgia and killed Hay-seuss last night. And the conservatards rejoice! Sickening.

johnnyzhivago September 22, 2011 at 10:21 am

I'd like to give Twitter a lethal injection.

metamarcisf September 22, 2011 at 10:22 am

There's gonna be a real celebration over this during tonight's GOP debate / goatfuck.

Barb September 22, 2011 at 10:32 am

There is a goatfuck tonight?
"Bathe her and bring her to me!"

johnnyzhivago September 22, 2011 at 10:35 am

not another one!

widestanceshakedown September 22, 2011 at 10:35 am

The lot will be doing lines of Bachmann's migraine meds on the podium. Or perhaps the teleprompters, since they don't use them.

James Michael Curley September 22, 2011 at 11:27 am

Damn! Tonight. I have no excuse to be out of the house so Ms Curley will have it on the BigTV; and I'm out of Xanax.

metamarcisf September 22, 2011 at 11:31 am

Guess which one of tonight's debaters is NOT out of alprazolam?

James Michael Curley September 22, 2011 at 2:50 pm

In that case, may I suggest Chlorpromazine?

AJWjr. September 22, 2011 at 1:24 pm

How DARE they interfere with TeeVee's ongoing premiere week? I'll just come here later and read the aftermath.

GOPCrusher September 22, 2011 at 1:50 pm

New drinking game, every time someone mentions the fact that Lawrence Brewer was executed and it did not receive the same attention that Troy Davis got, do a shot.

Chillwaver September 22, 2011 at 10:26 am

Oh, Malkie…nothing says stupid like a non-white person defending a white supremacist.

anniegetyerfun September 22, 2011 at 10:28 am

I refuse to believe that Coulter doesn't get an abortion every few months.

jodyleek September 22, 2011 at 10:33 am

I can't help but think that if the she-beast does get knocked up, the tiny zygote commits hari kari to avoid being the spawn of that septic farce.

anniegetyerfun September 22, 2011 at 10:35 am

It's possible that her uterus is too inhospitable an environment for developing fetii, but there's just something about her obsession with abortion that strikes me as… well, more "off" than with most conservatards.

hagajim September 22, 2011 at 10:47 am

Funny, I thought she was an abortion – of humanity anyway.

AJWjr. September 22, 2011 at 1:32 pm

I didn't think gender reassignment was advanced enough to allow actual procreation.

GOPCrusher September 22, 2011 at 1:51 pm

Do the transgendered get pregnant?

Doktor Zoom September 22, 2011 at 10:30 am

Has anyone else here read Rick Perlstein's Nixonland? He makes a pretty powerul case* that virtually all of our present culture-war battles began brewing in the 1960s, and that the figure who most effectively exploited the divisions between aggrieved "ordinary folk" and uppity libruls-n-blacks was Richard Nixon. It's one hell of a read, and has been on my "gotta-get-to-it" list for a while. Back in August, I saw that Barry was reading it too, which put it on the top of my book pile.

EDIT for on-topicness: There's a certain law-n-order mentality that will always celebrate an execution and deny the possibility that an innocent person might be convicted of a capital crime…and those folks will never be convinced by eggheads who drone on about "fairness." They want swift retributive justice, and see any equivocation as weakness and siding with killers.

* And of course, he's far from the only person to point that out…

weejee September 22, 2011 at 10:49 am

Dr. Z, I have a modest hoard of anti-Nixon memorabilia from the '60's'. Is that wrong?

Dick, withdraw like your father should have

Chet Kincaid September 22, 2011 at 11:11 am

How old are you? His premise is no revelation to anyone who was actually alive back then.

BaldarTFlagass September 22, 2011 at 11:15 am

Yeah, I'm sitting here, saying to myself, "No shit, Sherlock." And I was a child, in the 60s (though I probably would have said "No duh, Dexter" back then).

Chet Kincaid September 22, 2011 at 11:20 am

It was the entire premise of "All In The Family."

Ruhe September 22, 2011 at 11:24 am

Damn, man. That is right on the money. That's a dissertation that practically writes itself.

Doktor Zoom September 22, 2011 at 1:37 pm

Yup, was but a child when it all happened; the "culture wars is fallout of the 60s" part is indeed fairly obvious; what I'm finding interesting is Perlstein's careful dissection of just how adroitly Nixon–"a serial collector of resentments"– capitalized on them and basically wrote the playbook for politics ever since.

I've always hated Nixon as a slimy bastard–the book is not so much about surprising new revelations as it is about looking at the mechanism of how Nixon exploited threads of anger and distrust that have been here all along.

James Michael Curley September 22, 2011 at 11:35 am

Hard Hat Riot, NYC, 1970 says it all. Two hundred construction workers armed with debris from a construction site beat down on high school and college students protesting their pending doom in the draft and Viet Nam and, as the Watergate tapes reveal, Nixon laughs and offers to bring the hard hats to the White House.

V572 Moon! September 22, 2011 at 12:11 pm

When I was first old enough to vote in a presidential election, I was already in Vietnam, so at least had the modest satisfaction of voting against the man who drafted me, Richard "Milhaus" Nixon. That of course was the landslide of '72, when McGovern was defeated by the three A's: amnesty, acid and abortion.

So having grown up in Nixonland, I feel I can excuse myself from reading about it. When you think of Nixon and criminal justice, it's hard not to recall him pronouncing Charles Manson guilty before the trial was over. And the Trickster was a Duke-educated lawyer!

Fox n Fiends September 22, 2011 at 1:20 pm

I daresay the aggrieved ordinary folk have been exploited very well since the 1770s.

BaldarTFlagass September 22, 2011 at 10:31 am

"So #RIPTROYDAVIS is trending, and #RIPMARKMCPHAIL is not…"

Maybe if you spelled his last name right. MacPhail, you stupid cunt.

Texan_Bulldog September 22, 2011 at 10:37 am

Funny you should mention that. I did the Google on Mark McPhail and found out he was a dean at some college in WI. Didn't know WTH she was talking about.

freakishlywrong September 22, 2011 at 10:40 am

EPICPHAIL.

smitallica September 22, 2011 at 10:41 am

Just call her MacFAIL.

mumbly_joe September 22, 2011 at 10:35 am

Re: Ewick: Weird, I don't remember hearing teabaggers cheer for Obamacare, at the most recent Republican debate.

smitallica September 22, 2011 at 10:39 am

I would like to hate-fuck Michelle Malkin to death, then use her tiny corpse to beat Ann Coulter to death. Is that wrong?

Crank_Tango September 22, 2011 at 10:44 am

if that's wrong, I don't wanna be right.

Neilist_Returns September 22, 2011 at 12:00 pm

::Polite golf clap:::

Well played, sir. I say, well played.

glamourdammerung September 22, 2011 at 10:47 am

Since Malkin is one of those terror babies that the conservatives scream about, I am pretty sure she has no legal rights. And Coulter is in drag, so I am assuming the same applies there. Just do it in the South and you should be fine.

Neilist_Returns September 22, 2011 at 12:03 pm

And why do you hate the transgendered/transsexuals so much, Glams?

Poor Mr/Ms Coulter needs your understanding, not your vile, reflexive scorn.o

Does a poor tranny need to be a nine-year-old child soldier chopping the arms off pregnant women to get your sympathy?

glamourdammerung September 22, 2011 at 4:58 pm

Funny how you and spanky both take the same time off from here.

hagajim September 22, 2011 at 10:47 am

So wrong it might be right.

widestanceshakedown September 22, 2011 at 11:08 am

Not if you remember to hide the bodies amongst Rush's sweaty empire of fat folds, so he can absorb them.

(I'd like to repeatedly feed Malkin more flakes than she can consume in 10 minutes, so her tank goes septic.)

prommie September 22, 2011 at 12:26 pm

It is admirable.

freakishlywrong September 22, 2011 at 10:39 am

Today, we are all former wealthy, kind, generous countries.

weejee September 22, 2011 at 10:41 am

Speaking of throwing old stones…

♪♫ When you're sittin' there, on your silk upholstered chair
Talking to some Teatards that you know
I'll be on a green gurney, with a needle stuck in me
With the warden set to take my blues away
Take me down Ricky Perry, take me down
I know you think you're the king of all around
And you can send me dead flowers at my lynchin'
Send me dead flowers by the dead US mail
Send me dead flowers at my injection
And I hope that some others will piss upon your grave ♫♪

GunToting[Redacted] September 22, 2011 at 1:35 pm

Brilliant. The only quibble I have is that they USPS will be defunct soon, so you'll have to change that to the private sector shipping company of your choice. DHL would probably fit rhythmically, if they are still in business.

weejee September 22, 2011 at 2:02 pm

I'm guessing from your avatar yer a guitar picker as well. Acoustic, electric, jazz, blues, folk, rock….?

GunToting[Redacted] September 22, 2011 at 2:19 pm

Acoustic strummer, mainly. I've mostly been playing mandolin over the past few years (my garage band does a cover of Dead Flowers). I did just buy a new acoustic (Seagull) which sounds great and was a good price. I'm trying to work on fingerstyle blues, and my ancient deep-bowl Ovation wasn't cutting it.

weejee September 22, 2011 at 2:30 pm

Maybe try sliding around on a round neck Dobro in open G? I have one that's fun to do the bluez. Also open G is where Keef lives. Finger picking, though I go back to the 000 most usually in standard tuning.

slithytoves September 22, 2011 at 10:50 am

I look forward to teaching my class about Gandhi today, particulary this quote:"Satyagrapha (clinging to truth) excludes violence because people are not capable of knowing the absolute truth and therefore are not competent to punish."

That's all I got today.

jodyleek September 22, 2011 at 10:59 am

Did Ghandi really say the thing about liking the Christ but not Xtians, because they are nothing alike? I hope so, because that is about the most truth ever spoken by anyone re: Xtianity. And even more true today.

Mumbletypeg September 22, 2011 at 11:11 am

That's a class I'd rather be sitting in on .. than here at work anyway…

From Democracy Now on 9/11:
"…This year on September 11, India will mark the 105th anniversary of Mahatma Gandhi launching the modern nonviolent resistance movement."

Well it was news to me since I"m under/miseducated on most Asian histori-culture (I remember being taught Indira & Mahatma = no relation), but this item was at least something I could 'celebrated' that day, anyway~

Ruhe September 22, 2011 at 11:21 am

Thanks for that.

James Michael Curley September 22, 2011 at 11:38 am

I'll take that with a grain of salt.

jqheywood September 22, 2011 at 12:20 pm

I see what you did there. Very nice.

AJWjr. September 22, 2011 at 1:39 pm

And long grain rice.

James Michael Curley September 22, 2011 at 2:37 pm

Unpolished, of course.

fuflans September 22, 2011 at 10:54 am

these people make me think twice about turning the other cheek.

ttommyunger September 22, 2011 at 1:38 pm

After turning both cheeks, it is OK to beat the living shit out of them…..word.

freakishlywrong September 22, 2011 at 10:54 am

Only in Conservativeland, ( a place I'm really tired of living), can being "Pro-life" be twisted in to "insane support of the death penalty, just to piss off libruls"

HempDogbane September 22, 2011 at 10:56 am

Come on, people, you're either in favor of the "government shot" or you're not !

Chet Kincaid September 22, 2011 at 11:15 am

I will risk my liberal bona fides by saying that the death penalty doesn't bother me, and is in many cases richly deserved. But one death of an innocent man invalidates the whole system. That's one thing IL's penultimate corrupt governor got right.

fuflans September 22, 2011 at 12:02 pm

i think i don't really believe in the death penalty but i do know for sure it's ineffective, grossly expensive and often kills innocent people. so – like the war on drugs – just stupid policy.

but then again, we are often a nation of stupids.

BlueMonkeh September 22, 2011 at 12:21 pm

I concur, CK.

glamourdammerung September 22, 2011 at 12:34 pm

Exactly. Between the conservatives high-fiving and claiming it was up to Davis to "prove he was innocent", it is hard to see the death penalty as being compatible with our proclaimed government.

BerkeleyBear September 22, 2011 at 12:44 pm

The only thing that bothers me is that I know I'm not fair enough to apply it in an unbiased manner even if I was the sole arbiter of the case. Which probably means 12 folks who can't get out of jury duty listening to a DA whose main job is to be seen as "tough on crime" and can use a disproportionate amount of public funds to secure a death penalty conviction are probably not going to apply it in an unbiased manner. Especially since the odds are pretty good the defendant has one or more of a crappy defense, crappy lawyer or horribly unsympathetic personal nature, since otherwise the case would have settled out long before the jury got to the point of considering the death penalty. The deck is just too stacked and way too uneven for me to be comfortable with it as a tool of a society that even pays lip service to the idea that justice should include some element of evenhandedness.

snoopyfan2010 September 22, 2011 at 1:34 pm

That sounds nice but there a too many people in this country who get away with murder because of their social status, wealth or connections for me to believe that it is a fair punishment. As long as that's the case, I don't support it. Also too, so many of those who support the death penalty are of the evangelical-super-Christian variety. But they seem to forget that their lord and savior was also an innocent man who was put to death. But then those are minor details I guess. As a Cat-o-lick, I agree with the man in the red shoes (pope). This was wrong.

Ruhe September 22, 2011 at 11:19 am

I think somewhere lost in one of the many correspondences between Descartes and his critics there was one fellow who pointed out to the thinker that his proof of the existence of God is refuted by the very existence of humans. If God existed he'd find humans so loathsome that he'd have smacked us right out of the universe years ago. I think Nietzsche and a few others (Holderlein, maybe) came to the conclusion that at some point God had simply lost interest in us. America: an ongoing effort to get Jesus to pay attention that fails perennially. But does that prove that He does not exist. If the Higgs Boson refuses to appear at current energies does that mean it doesn't exist or that we should amp the experiment up? More senseless violence, America! Jeebus can't ignore you forever.

weejee September 22, 2011 at 11:28 am

But real 'Murcians have to try to put the whores in front of Descartes.

/ sorry, too early in the morning here on the left coast for that..needz moar coffee

LiveToServeYa September 22, 2011 at 11:34 am

Jesus wept.

Chichikovovich September 22, 2011 at 1:02 pm

Interesting line about what God's attitude to man might be, but I'd be astonished to learn that it came from Descartes' correspondence. First of all, I'm pretty sure that no-one Descartes corresponded with, except perhaps Gassendi, was an atheist, and second, even if one of the correspondents was an atheist, there is no way anyone would admit it in a letter. People still got imprisoned and (in some places) killed in nasty ways for that. (Several correspondents rightly argued that Descartes' purported proofs of God's existence were invalid, but no-one denied God existed.)

Also, the idea that man is to disgusting for God to tolerate is a basic feature of hard-core Christian theology, of a kind that most of Descartes' correspondents (again, except maybe Gassendi, and perhaps Hobbes too) accepted. Because of the fall, we are hopelessly degraded, and we would have no complaint if God were to abandon us. But God is such a great guy that he loves us and offers us forgiveness (subject to certain minor clauses in the fine print) anyway.

DaRooster September 22, 2011 at 11:19 am

How many abortions has Ann Colter asked chicks to get?

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El Pinche September 22, 2011 at 11:22 am

I'm tellin ya, it's the extra Neanderthal gene in conservaturds.

BaldarTFlagass September 22, 2011 at 11:45 am

I saw in an article in the New Yorker last month that we all have around 4% Neanderthal in our genetic makeup, but I think that number is a bit low for some of our fellow citizens.

El Pinche September 22, 2011 at 11:51 am

Some have more than others , too. Have you seen Hannity's forehead lately?

jqheywood September 22, 2011 at 12:23 pm

NEANDERTHAL LIBEL!!!!!?!!?!!!

AJWjr. September 22, 2011 at 1:46 pm

Needz moar DEATH!

BerkeleyBear September 22, 2011 at 11:23 am

Georgia and Texas remain the best evidence of Thurgood Marshall's view, as expressed in cases involving (shockingly enough) Georgia and Texas., Which was basically that even if you buy the idea that we should stick with the 18th century view in the Constitutions that killing folks should be part of the law, people are too fucking stupid to be trusted with anything like the death penalty, since it almost always gets applied in an arbitrary manner than has more to do wiht how sympathetic the particular victim(s) and/or criminal is than any even handed application of justice.

He was right then, he is right now. I guess my point is we should all watch Laurence Fishburne play him in Thurgood and weep that his beautiful mind was replaced on the Supreme Court with Clarence Thomas. Sob!

AJWjr. September 22, 2011 at 1:52 pm

It's like rats vs squirrels. Both are rodents, both vectors for plagues, yet squirrels are deemed cute because they have a furry tail whereas rats have an ugly bald tail and therefore must be killed. Story of my life.

subsum September 22, 2011 at 11:28 am

One of the racist motherfuckin' white trash hillbillies that killed James Byrd in Jasper, Texas, was also executed yesterday. I'm okay with that.

grex1949 September 22, 2011 at 2:10 pm

Not me. Ever. Under no circumstances should the justice system be able to take a life. What's wrong with punishing a truly vile asshole like the James Byrd perps by locking them up in prison for the rest of their natural lives? This doesn't sound like a picnic to me, and in the (occasional) circumstance in which DNA evidence or some other irrefutable means surfaces to exonerate such an individual, we won't have to visit his grave to say, "Sorry 'bout that."

Terry September 22, 2011 at 11:38 am

"Yeah, everybody, there was a white guy who died. Why has everyone forgotten that a white guy died?"

Because the white guy who was executed was one of the ones who tied that black man behind a pickup and dragged him for three and a half miles until he was finally decapitated when his head hit a culvert. There was no controversy at all as to whether the white guy was guilty or not.

Is Michelle Malkin defending the practice of dragging people behind pickups until they die?

El Pinche September 22, 2011 at 11:48 am

Malkin makes a living being a self-loathing minority. If she sympathizes with a black man in any way, her inbred cromagnon fans would turn on her .

Terry September 22, 2011 at 1:08 pm

Ok, I merged two rants there. The white guy I was referring to was a man executed yesterday in Texas who was one of the ones who dragged James Byrd behind a pickup until he died. THAT execution didn't receive the same degree of outrage because there was no indication at all at he might be innocent.

The death penalty should be abolished for the following reasons, among others:
- We can't risk executing innocent people
- It's not the deterent people say it is. In the Byrd case, it didn't stop those guys from chaining him to a truck, did it?
- We risk creating martyrs out of people like McVey
- The whole "Thou Shalt Not Kill" thing. Should the State be killing people?

glamourdammerung September 22, 2011 at 1:38 pm

Actually, Brewer claimed he was not only unrepentant but that he enjoyed it and would do it again if he had the chance. The comments he made implying he would do more if he had the opportunity is also something that makes it real hard to suggest he may have been innocent.

Though he wanted the death penalty because he did not want to do life in prison. That was a pretty good argument for sparing him to me.

Biel_ze_Bubba September 23, 2011 at 1:27 am

A decent society should take pride in not lowering itself to the level of its worst criminals.

Putting a bastard like Brewer to sleep is letting him off easy. Having to spend the rest of his worthless life in a prison (well-populated by large, mean men of color) would be SO much more satisfying, from my point of view.

Maman September 22, 2011 at 11:38 am

Do you think that it is ironic that Erick Erickson's initials mean a docile female sheep.

GunToting[Redacted] September 22, 2011 at 1:41 pm

I just prefer thinking of him as EW Erickson.

AJWjr. September 22, 2011 at 1:57 pm

ew. Can't finish that, nope.

glamourdammerung September 22, 2011 at 2:08 pm

Given conservative issues with projection, that makes his comments about Souter being a "goat fucking child molester" a bit more creepy.

Sue4466 September 22, 2011 at 11:44 am

“It is tempting to pretend that [persons] on death row share a fate in no way connected to our own, that our treatment of them sounds no echoes beyond the chambers in which they die. Such an illusion is ultimately corrosive, for the reverberations of injustice are not so easily confined . . . The way in which we choose those who will die reveals the depth of moral commitment among the living.”

McClesky v. Kemp, Justice William J. Brennan (dissenting).

Guppy06 September 22, 2011 at 11:49 am

"Not everyone in America is insane."

Just the majority of the electorate.

Chet Kincaid September 22, 2011 at 11:53 am

Dizzy Gillespie said it best: "I'll never go back to Georgia!"

Guppy06 September 22, 2011 at 12:00 pm

Where were all those activist judges I keep hearing about?

102415 September 22, 2011 at 3:42 pm

In Georgia there is only the parole board dicks. How do you try them for murder?

Pat_Pending September 22, 2011 at 12:00 pm

I've always been anti-death penalty, pro vigilante. Catch someone in the act of murder, you get to take 'em out with extreme prejudice. Of course, if someone catches you in the act of murdering someone who is in the act of murdering someone, I suppose they could murder you. And so on.

Biel_ze_Bubba September 23, 2011 at 1:28 am

There's a word for that. I think it's called "Texas".

chascates September 22, 2011 at 12:00 pm

Truly we are returning to the Great Days of the Founding Fathers! From an account in colonial times:
"Crowds of thirty thousand or more were expected to be at high profile hangings; viewing stands had to be erected to contain the throngs. Often chaos erupted out of these bloodthirsty crowds — a viewing stand collapsed at an execution in Cooperstown, New York, and killed two people."

DustBowlBlues September 22, 2011 at 12:02 pm

I'm going to say this on every topic today: Jim Lehrer is fucking prescient. The old man pulled his eyes away from the porn last night and we began reading "Mack To The Rescue", a One Eyed Mack novel. The first chapter opens with Gov. Buffalo Joe Hayman aka "The Chip" to his detractors, appearing on the biggest radio station in OK, an "anger radio" station show called "Sooner Sam Screams at Noon." Joe promises to privatize the entire state government, because what the people of OK want is to "make government work by getting the government out of it. " Lt. Gov Mack thinks this insane idea it will be totally unpopular, but, of course, it tests insanely well.

With a 2008 copyright, I've got to believe Lehrer saw the Teabagger movement coming and got to them first.

That is all, except I thought equating an execution with taxing rich people was so crazy, no one could go there. How wrong I was. When do we give up and just admit the inmates and the corporation that runs their privatized state looney bin have really taken over?

proudgrampa September 22, 2011 at 12:04 pm

We should be ashamed of ourselves. I want to move to Norway.

fuflans September 22, 2011 at 12:10 pm

this is OT but joe walsh is being a pain in the ass again – this time to republicans. his district got redistricted out and now he's going to challenge the next nearest district held by a fellow conservatard.

(rubs hands in glee).

Chet Kincaid September 22, 2011 at 12:50 pm

I saw that – I hope he gets all his dirty laundry aired on the way to losing the seat for the bot'of'em!

mrblifil September 22, 2011 at 12:10 pm

Mark MacPhail has been dead 20 years and his now-grown son attended Davis' execution. Also MacPhail's funeral featured legendary turn out, according to contemporaneous reports. Kind of hard to make the case that the victim got ignored.

Now about the state of Georgia's record at applying justice fairly for the blax…

prommie September 22, 2011 at 12:33 pm

Its surprising none of them made the obvious connection, that all this anti-death penalty handwringing over the black man is precisely the problem with having a black president. You just know its only a matter of time before he frees all the black criminals and then raises taxes on hard-working whites to give them all welfare cadillacs.

James Michael Curley September 22, 2011 at 12:51 pm

I want a welfare Lincoln.

BaldarTFlagass September 22, 2011 at 1:01 pm

Ooooh! Very good!

prommie September 22, 2011 at 2:04 pm

I want a hot-rod Lincoln.

GregComlish September 22, 2011 at 12:39 pm

Winners don't execute wrongly convicted persons

— William S. Sessions

CommieLibunatic September 22, 2011 at 12:53 pm

Try not to take TOO much joy in the execution of another human being, Twittersphere. You might come across as crazy or something.

/drinkatwork

ttommyunger September 22, 2011 at 1:42 pm

Don't know enough about the facts of the case to determine guilt or innocence regarding the death of that poor officer ( a fellow Army Ranger) ; but I do know Troy Davis was guilty of one thing: being a black man in Chatham County, Georgia. A ton of men have been executed for that offense over the years.

snoopyfan2010 September 22, 2011 at 1:42 pm

#RIPMARTINLUTHERKING

grex1949 September 22, 2011 at 2:01 pm

Cold-blooded murder. There is no other way to describe it when a living person is strapped to a table and poison is injected into his blood with intent to end his life. And we call ourselves civilized? This is not a moral act in any sense of the word; it's simply savagery.

CivicHoliday September 22, 2011 at 2:11 pm

An eye for an eye. Anyone's eye, really. Anyone at all. That's 'justice' in these here united states.

sezme September 22, 2011 at 2:29 pm

It is actually the only form of “American exceptionalism” left, since the U.S. is the last first world country to cling to the death penalty.

I feel the need to point out the fact that the US is joined in this happy club of thugs who should know better by the Japanese, who at least generally reserve this punishment for killers of multiple victims, but still… For a brilliant and harrowing dramatic exploration of this subject, I highly recommend the 2008 film Vacation (Kyuuka).

SorosBot September 22, 2011 at 2:40 pm

Though there is a big difference; according to that article there are currently 95 people facing a death sentence in Japan, which has a population of about 130,000,000, about 40% of the size of the US, where we have over 3000 currently condemned to die.

sezme September 22, 2011 at 3:02 pm

Total agreement on that point, it's just that I'm of the opinion that capital punishment is absolutely a bad idea.

Limeylizzie September 22, 2011 at 3:00 pm

In the UK, this case is what started us on the road to realising that mistakes can be made and thus the end of the death penalty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Evans

__kth__ September 22, 2011 at 3:25 pm

I don't know about y'all, but reading those tweets gave me a moment's peace. Being those people is a crueler fate and a greater revenge than anything I could dream up for them.

BZ1 September 22, 2011 at 4:45 pm

even commenting on what these vile people say gives them more ammunition …

NewtsUndies September 23, 2011 at 9:49 am

I noticed one of the protesters in a shirt which read 'i am Troy Davis'. I guess they DID execute the wrong person.

BaldarTFlagass September 22, 2011 at 10:27 am

I bet she's got "Marty Feldman" nips.

Limeylizzie September 22, 2011 at 10:34 am

I am going to regret this, I know, but what does that mean? All googly and going in different directions?

not that Dewey September 22, 2011 at 10:45 am

The Last Remake of Ann Coulter

BaldarTFlagass September 22, 2011 at 10:37 am

Exactly. I'd have said Colin Hay, but figured that might be too obscure for the youngsters here…

Limeylizzie September 22, 2011 at 10:44 am

I have no idea who that is.

BaldarTFlagass September 22, 2011 at 10:49 am

Wall-eyed singer for Men at Work.

Limeylizzie September 22, 2011 at 11:00 am

Only if she can keep her clothes on, she has fabulous taste.

V572 Moon! September 22, 2011 at 11:05 am

So, we met at O'Hare (all I had to tell her was that I grew up on the South Side) and limo-ed to the Drake, where we had a lake-view suite overlooking Oak Street Beach, where the critical scenes of David Mamet's great movie "Things Change" were filmed. Tamron likes fine wines, of course, and gentle, langorous oral sex with the lights from Lake Shore Drive glinting across the ceiling.

Then, at 5:00 AM, I turned on "Morning Joe," of course, and she fled.

Chet Kincaid September 22, 2011 at 11:36 am

ANCHOR LIBEL!!

We met in the darkened studios of MSNBC off-air during a prison show marathon. My probing fingers unbuttoned, unsnapped and unzipped every item of her delicious ensemble to reveal the glory of her taut, caramel body. I held her gently but firmly against the green screen as we made torrid, urgent love amid the howling winds of Hurricane Irene footage.

Chillwaver September 22, 2011 at 11:48 am

She is what her Asians counterparts call a "Twinkie."

Beowoof September 22, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Not_So_Much September 22, 2011 at 12:24 pm

To steal an old line, "You could take those tits off and bowl with them".

Beowoof September 22, 2011 at 12:47 pm

Did you check her package? That has always been the zone where the questions of gender arise.

not that Dewey September 22, 2011 at 12:45 pm

Sarah Palin has Waterbugs?

GOPCrusher September 22, 2011 at 1:02 pm

This is why the 80's should never be remembered fondly.

AJWjr. September 22, 2011 at 1:28 pm

Or Tank!

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