THE OPPRESSED RICH  5:17 pm September 19, 2011

Multi-Millionaire Rep. John Fleming Can’t Afford Obama’s Rich People Tax

by Kirsten Boyd Johnson

House Republicans are flapping their jowls across the airwaves today complaining about Barack Obama’s proposal to raise taxes on the super-rich, because it’s a lot harder to survive on half a million dollars than your average middle-class hobo socialist who lives on a salary of $40,000 thinks it is. Louisiana Rep. John Fleming will make this point with math, by explaining that he grosses $6.3 million a year from his businesses, but he only takes home around $400,000 per year after expenses. And then he stares at anchor Chris Jansing blankly, because, uh, yeah, that was his point. What part of that wasn’t clear? Only $400,000, that’s what he wanted to say. Helloooo?

Might people not be entirely sympathetic to someone complaining about taxes being raised on his $400,000 a year income, Jansing asks? To which John Fleming replies that he should not be punished for having “virtue” in the form of millions of dollars, like Jesus. [ThinkProgress]

 

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PuckStopsHere September 19, 2011 at 5:20 pm

NEVER feel sorry for somebody who makes more money than you.

Lascauxcaveman September 19, 2011 at 5:21 pm

And NEVER plead poverty to someone who makes less than you.

a_pink_poodle September 19, 2011 at 7:21 pm

I'm stealing that line for my use.

LettucePrey September 19, 2011 at 5:29 pm

Maybe he can use that meager $400,000 to buy the world's tiniest Stradivarius.

DaRooster September 19, 2011 at 5:36 pm

But then he couldn't afford Red Lobster.

Mojopo September 19, 2011 at 5:46 pm

I don't know why he thinks he has a right to complain. He is not really rich. Only poors talk about take-home pay.

fuflans September 19, 2011 at 6:02 pm

yeah, no i don't

Come here a minute September 19, 2011 at 5:20 pm

I wonder if it would be more profitable to sell torches or pitchforks outside Rep. Flemming's house.

poncho_pilot September 19, 2011 at 5:52 pm

flaming pitchforks.

Gleem_McShineys September 19, 2011 at 6:06 pm

I'll take two!

Callyson September 19, 2011 at 6:23 pm

Throw in a slingshot and I'll buy up your supply. Am guessing the resale value will only increase once more people hear this guy's drivel.

Not_So_Much September 19, 2011 at 6:28 pm

Either way, you'll only be paid in emaciated chickens and potatoes…

BobsGunt September 19, 2011 at 7:54 pm

put your faith in the Almighty Free Market, and it shall guide you.

flamingpdog September 19, 2011 at 7:56 pm

Yes. But don't scare his teenagers.

finallyhappy September 19, 2011 at 5:21 pm

I'll trade with him and pay the rich people tax. After "expenses"- meaning he writes off every personal thing he has on the business

DahBoner September 19, 2011 at 5:35 pm

You know, I have a lot of "expenses" to write off in order to do my work.

I need food. Shelter. Transportation. Hookers. Etc…

Jukesgrrl September 19, 2011 at 11:43 pm

Don't forget a cleaning service, a landscaper, a driver, and a personal shopper so you have time to work (and be a job creator, too!)

hagajim September 19, 2011 at 6:39 pm

Wouldn't part of those "expenses" he refers to include the taxes he currently pays? If so, then he would only bring home about $12,000 less than he does now…poor, poor bastard.

EatFrankRich September 19, 2011 at 7:28 pm

$12,000 being, oddly enough, more than average salary he pays his 500 workers. H/T to the DFHs at the Kos for figuring that out, because Math Is Hard.

ibwilliamsi September 20, 2011 at 2:41 am

$12,000 less? And some asswipe is going to do something stupid with it like buy peanut butter or cheese for the kids! Is nothing safe?

Dashboard_Jesus September 19, 2011 at 10:48 pm

yeah exactly…actually I believe the douchebag said that AFTER he 'feeds his family' he only has about $400K left to reinvest (which is probably bullshit) so he didn't say he makes ONLY $400K…my bet is he pays himself a MUCH bigger salary than that, cuz his family has to eat (caviar?), the kids have to go to private (white) schools, his wife needs lots of jewelry, he drives multiple luxury (German?) cars/ monster SUVs & lives in a mansion in a gated community (to keep the poorz out!) so the $400K is just GRAVY after all his *bills* are paid…fucking typical lying hypocritical Repig

Barb September 19, 2011 at 5:21 pm

This is why slavery should be brought back. You don't have to pay them! Makes being super rich so much easier. I'm tired of the "job creators" being stressed out like this.

Indiepalin September 19, 2011 at 5:56 pm

And our pickininnies had a much better shot at a good life back then. In fact, Quentin Tarantino is making a movie on that very subject, starring Samuel L. Jackson.

widget2011 September 19, 2011 at 6:47 pm

Yeah, I'm in that quandry right now, I work for a company that is way, way top heavy and have a foreign boss is is an R-(Asshole) who has about 3 Lexus'es, comes into the office at 9:00 AM, works to 11:30, has a 3 hour lunch and leaves at 4:00 PM. I work about 50 hour a week, and he has a shit fit. I have worked about 250 to 400 hours a year off the clock, because I want to keep my job. All I have to say is MEAN PEOPLE SUCK.

TheMightyHaltor September 19, 2011 at 7:43 pm

Nah, the Teatards would then complain the the slaves PAY NO TAXES!!!

Sparky_McGruff September 19, 2011 at 8:58 pm

Those lucky duckies.

GeorgiaBurning September 19, 2011 at 8:00 pm

Real slaves were a problem in a down economy- you can't lay them off, you take a loss on selling, and starving them looks bad. Thanks to union busting, the last option is not only available but considered patriotic with hourly workers.

Dashboard_Jesus September 19, 2011 at 10:53 pm

yeah it does keep me up at night wondering how the assholes are going to *feed their families* on ONLY $400K, food ain't cheap y'know (funny but I know a fair number of these rich folk and most of them buy/ consume only the highest quality organic foods and such, cuz they don't want the kids to eat the same chemicals/ poison they're selling to make the big $$$ )

memzilla September 19, 2011 at 5:21 pm

Au contraire, mon cherie! The French Revolution created puh-lenty of jerbs, and had the added benefit of ridding the country of the poor-mouthing nobility which was leeching away its GDP.

Is it just me, or has everybody noticed that Rethuglicans, when confronted with the merest whiff of the word "plutocrat," go into this glassy-eyed glaze, and the next three sentences contain the phrase "job creators?"

savethispatient September 19, 2011 at 5:29 pm

And of course, the most popular job the French Revolution created was the Guillotine Sharpener.

Rotundo_ September 19, 2011 at 5:33 pm

And I always thought it was the guy on the lever. Though it would be fun to dull it up a bit before a particularly nasty bastard came up for his reward. Edited to add: Sorta like this guy.

Crank_Tango September 19, 2011 at 6:56 pm

I wonder if they make hybrid tumbrils these days? Cuz I could drive the shit outta one of them!

Comrade Wingtard September 19, 2011 at 7:31 pm

I don't think they had to be all that sharp, either. Nevertheless, the only "smart weapon" ever invented.

pdiddycornchips September 19, 2011 at 5:47 pm

Don't forget class warfare. That's their favorite.

It was Karl Rove who suggested the phrase "job creators" to replace "wealthy" or "rich". BTW–just where are all those job these creators are creating?

GeorgiaBurning September 19, 2011 at 5:58 pm

China, isn't it obvious???

Swampgas_Man September 19, 2011 at 7:18 pm

No, no — they're being purposely KEPT from creating jerbs by fear of the social-welfare taxes. It's the Kenyan's fault!

Chichikovovich September 19, 2011 at 6:01 pm

Perhaps we can out-Rove them: when they complain about taxing "job creators" we can say "but its good to be able to tax people like Mitt Romney. You know – Job *Destroyers*."

starfanglednut September 19, 2011 at 8:22 pm

I have long maintained that W was elected twice through the clever manipulation of language, with phrases like "support the troops" replacing "support wars no matter whether they are just, and no matter the human suffering involved" I would not be remotely surprised if Rove had a few linguists on board. Democrats suck at manipulating language in this manner, either because they are not sleazy enough or because they are just hopeless wimps, I'm not sure which.

Jukesgrrl September 19, 2011 at 11:49 pm

I agree. I heard more than one progressive accuse the Republicans of class warfare against the poors months ago — but what do they do? They snatch up the insult and turn it right around to mean what THEY want it to mean. As much as they make me want to vomit, I am in awe of their discipline. Try and get three Democrats to use the same buzz word on the same day. Meanwhile the Republicans can get 3,000 of them to do it.

tessiee September 21, 2011 at 12:40 am

Sorry, can't agree with you there.
Dumbya wasn't elected once, let alone twice.

starfanglednut September 21, 2011 at 9:24 am

Good point. I probably didn't phrase my thought properly. I just feel that manipulating language helped him keep a psychological hold over the population.

ManchuCandidate September 19, 2011 at 5:21 pm

Mo money. Mo whining.

Texan_Bulldog September 19, 2011 at 5:23 pm

As much as the tin foilers at DailyKos annoy me, one of them actually did the math. Basically, he pays all his employees around $11K a year. I guess they get by by eating the Subway leftovers people dump in the trash.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/09/19/1018241/

Texan_Bulldog September 19, 2011 at 5:40 pm

And I imagine most of these employees are kids/part time. That means ole Ebenezer doesn't have to pony up for health insurance for the majority of them. Double win!

ibwilliamsi September 20, 2011 at 2:55 am

I'm thinking that they're not legal.

mumbly_joe September 19, 2011 at 5:55 pm

Well, he's clearly making numbers up, is the main point, since he also claimed that "feeding his family" (including four adult children) costs him, personally, $200,000/year

Geminisunmars September 19, 2011 at 6:06 pm

It ain't cheap, not eating at the Olive Garden, you know.

starfanglednut September 19, 2011 at 8:24 pm

Does he feed them, or just get it on them?

Naked_Bunny September 20, 2011 at 8:10 am

Hey, flying in fresh French cuisine every day adds up.

Barrelhse September 19, 2011 at 6:33 pm

Don't you love it when the Job Creators bitch about having to PAY the fucking employees?
"I mean, they're lucky to have a job and now they want money!?"

glamourdammerung September 19, 2011 at 7:31 pm

Keep in mind a year or two ago, these same sorts were crying about an attempt by Democrats to make it illegal to import goods made with slave labor as it was a "job killing regulation".

axmxz September 19, 2011 at 5:23 pm

Republican businessman surprised and outraged that he has to pay workers, claims class warfare, threatens to fire those good-for-nothing non-slave workers. News at 11.

Mojopo September 19, 2011 at 5:24 pm

Diamond in the back, sunroof top, digging the scene with a gangsta lean…

ibwilliamsi September 20, 2011 at 2:57 am

ooh – ooh- hoo…

tessiee September 21, 2011 at 12:33 am

Holy fuck, we are OLD!

LettucePrey September 19, 2011 at 5:24 pm

Anyone notice that the math is way off?

$6.3 million (minus the $400,000 left over) means he's paying each of his 500 employees only $11,800 a year. He's either full of BS, and/or he's just a Republican and most of his workers are sub-minimum wage illegals.

El Pinche September 19, 2011 at 5:29 pm

Yes, yes, and yes.

jjdaddyo September 19, 2011 at 5:34 pm

People have also pointed out that he may not be including his $174,000/ year Congressional salary (not to mention bennies) in this calculation either.

Peckners September 20, 2011 at 9:08 am

What's weird is the WSJ has a story in which he more or less brags that the $6.3 is his profit-share. So you would assume from the way that article describes it, all those workers and rents and equipment has already been paid for. In fact it mentions ONE of his joints pulls in $5 million alone. Unless all these other ventures together gross a $1.6 mil, he's lying. This seems like a very easy thing to debunk.
The WSJ put up its firwall on me. Google: "Side Jobs Bolster Some Lawmakers' Paychecks"

NorthStarSpanx September 20, 2011 at 10:09 am

He's a rep from Louisiana? Sounds like a Texan job-creator to me. Rick Perry likes his math.

SudsMcKenzie September 19, 2011 at 5:25 pm

I'm not a violent person by nature, but I would beat the Shit out of this person for his lunch money.

comrad_darkness September 20, 2011 at 12:08 am

His lunch money appears to be $500 plus a day. Me, you and One_who_wanders can go eat sushi till we puke.

SudsMcKenzie September 20, 2011 at 12:33 am

Food makes me sick, lets just get cocktails.

LesBontemps September 20, 2011 at 9:55 am

Um, aren't cocktails one of the six food groups?

tessiee September 21, 2011 at 12:44 am

*thinks*
Um, let's see…
*counts on fingers*
Sugar, salt, fat, caffeine…
[chocolate has all four, which is why nutritionists consider it a perfect food]
Cigarettes and alcohol…

Yup, you're right.

arihaya September 20, 2011 at 8:46 am

I wish your enterprise today may thrive

LettucePrey September 19, 2011 at 5:25 pm

Also, WTF is he feeding his family? $100 bills marinated in Dom Perignon?

Mojopo September 19, 2011 at 5:28 pm

Whole Foods.

DahBoner September 19, 2011 at 5:33 pm

The MAJORITY of produce in WF is the same, pesticide-coated crap you can buy in any supermarket…

BTWBFDIMHO September 19, 2011 at 10:51 pm

Ass-Whole Foods?

SayItWithWookies September 19, 2011 at 5:29 pm

Don't be ridiculous. Cristal.

a_pink_poodle September 19, 2011 at 7:50 pm

How dare you?! This man's family is barely starving and yet you mock him for going to extreme lengths to keep his family fed with turducken, Dom Perignon and $100 bills to wipe their hands?! For Gods sake, they can only afford to drink wine imported every day from Italy! ITALY!

Do you know what they have to resort to eating to survive? Kobi beef in a red wine burgundy truffle sauce with a side of Black Sea caviar mixed with a pound of gold flecks every other God damn day. Just think about what you say about the unfortunate next time before you open your damn MOUTH

Dashboard_Jesus September 19, 2011 at 11:33 pm

wow now that you put it in perspective like that I actually kinda feel sorry for the *poor* slob…that kinda diet will KILL you!

tessiee September 21, 2011 at 12:46 am

Yes, and their sweaters are made from [shudder] Chinese cashmere!

Lascauxcaveman September 19, 2011 at 5:26 pm

Also, dipshit, business expenses are the expenses you have to run your business. That's why you don't take them home. They're paying for stuff at your business. They're write-offable. So they count against what you pay in taxes, get it?

Look, maybe you should hire and accountant or something.

smitallica September 19, 2011 at 5:51 pm

Thank you! I'm glad I'm not the only one sitting here thinking "Umm, isn't there a difference between PERSONAL, take home income and business income/expenses?" I don't give a shit what your BUSINESS makes. What's your SALARY, dickhead?

Geminisunmars September 19, 2011 at 6:08 pm

Does the IRS know about this?? Anyone have their phone #?

BarackMyWorld September 19, 2011 at 6:45 pm

Now that you've destroyed the "upper income tax hikes hurt small businesses" argument, I'm sure the Republicans will hop on board and support the president's proposal.

Wait, sorry…forgot I wasn't living in a world where facts can actually change someone's mind.

ibwilliamsi September 20, 2011 at 2:58 am

He has three, one to go along with each set of books.

ThankYouJeebus September 20, 2011 at 10:24 am

Plus, if his net earnings are only $400K then he doesn't qualify for the millionaire tax. This stupid asshat is bad at math and basic reading comprehension.

axmxz September 19, 2011 at 5:27 pm

What do you mean, either?

axmxz September 19, 2011 at 5:28 pm

The guy is why swirlies and audits were invented.

Swampgas_Man September 19, 2011 at 7:24 pm

And wedgies.

imissopus September 19, 2011 at 5:28 pm

I had sent this to Wonkette's tips without actually watching the video, and now that I have watched the video, I find it's even better than advertised. The end, when he tells the anchor that class warfare never solves anything? Awesome. Someone should mention to him that class warfare did relieve Marie Antoinette of the burden of walking around with that pesky head atop her shoulders.

Tommmcattt September 19, 2011 at 5:34 pm

And it seems to me there was a country, a rather large one, whose foray into class warfare- when they overthrew the reigning monarchist government- resulted in a system of government looked to by the world as the pinnacle of freedom and justice. I just can't put my finger on which one it was…it's on the tip of my tongue…

SudsMcKenzie September 19, 2011 at 5:51 pm

I'm sorry, can you put that into a "you know what other country" format? otherwise I have to think.

Crank_Tango September 19, 2011 at 8:36 pm

hitler?

SudsMcKenzie September 20, 2011 at 12:37 am

all of them Katie?

glamourdammerung September 19, 2011 at 7:35 pm

France?

johnnyzhivago September 19, 2011 at 5:28 pm

Blessed are the billionaires, as they shall owneth the Earth….

ManchuCandidate September 19, 2011 at 5:34 pm

True, but at this point I don't think you need "shall."

Rotundo_ September 19, 2011 at 5:35 pm

But us meek folk get it after they wipe their asses with it! That has to count for something right?

bikerlaureate September 19, 2011 at 6:54 pm

"Much will be required of the person entrusted with much, and still more will be demanded of the person entrusted with more."

That verse would carry weight, of course, only with those virtuous enough to render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's.

DahBoner September 19, 2011 at 5:32 pm

Cmon, you people should know by now that it's NOT "Class Warfare" when you give taxcuts to billionaires so they can pay less taxes than their secretary and janitor.

IT'S ONLY FUCKING CLASS WARFARE WHEN YOU WANT TO MAKE RICH PEOPLE PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE…

LettucePrey September 19, 2011 at 5:40 pm

The good Congressman has not studied nearly enough history if he thinks being grilled on MSNBC is "class warfare".

Class warfare is when the poors come after you with pitchforks and guillotines, bro.

mumbly_joe September 19, 2011 at 6:30 pm

Of course not. "Warfare" implies that the other side is fighting back. The status quo is more of a Class Massacre or Class Atrocity.

tessiee September 21, 2011 at 12:50 am

It's only class warfare when you point it out.

LesBontemps September 20, 2011 at 10:02 am

As far as I can tell, some actual class warfare is exactly what we need.

SayItWithWookies September 19, 2011 at 5:32 pm

Wow, these brass-balled captains of industry — these bold entrepreneurs who crossed the desert, these never-say-die visionaries who dammed mighty rivers, built skyscrapers and did what they said couldn't be done — have sure turned into a whiny possel of nancy boys haven't they? That's probably President Obama's fault too, now that I think of it.

Eve8Apples September 19, 2011 at 5:33 pm

He doesn't mention that he deducts all those "expenses" from his gross income when calculating his tax payments. The bastard probably gets a tax refund from Uncle Sam.

If anyone needs me, I'll be at Home Depot picking up materials for my do it yourself guillotine project. If these bastards want class warfare, I'm prepared to go French Revolution on their asses.

unclejeems September 19, 2011 at 7:58 pm

Um, if you need someone to hold the bucket that, you know, catches the lopped off heads, I'm your guy.

BobsGunt September 19, 2011 at 8:03 pm

liberté, egalité, and fraternité

mourningnmerica September 19, 2011 at 8:37 pm

I'm taking up knitting as we speak.

NorthStarSpanx September 20, 2011 at 10:13 am

When asked in August 2008 by Pastor Rick Warren to define "rich," McCain famously replied, "So — so — so I think if you're just talking about income, how about 5 million."

So technically speaking, Fleming is middle America.

imissopus September 19, 2011 at 5:33 pm

Plus it just occurred to me, don't House reps make something like $180,000 a year? Cry me another fucking river, asshole.

edgydrifter September 19, 2011 at 5:33 pm

FYI, Congressman Vanilla-Douche: If you need 500 employees to gross $6.3M annually, your company sucks. What industry are you in–professional panhandling?

DahBoner September 19, 2011 at 5:42 pm

That's because most of the workers quit after one hour or get swept up in Immigration raids or die horrible deaths in industrial accidents…

Geminisunmars September 19, 2011 at 6:12 pm

Ooops.

arihaya September 19, 2011 at 5:36 pm

oh please you stupid Libruls, if he should pay Millionaire taxes, he will not be able to afford rentboys anymore

Polythene_Pam September 19, 2011 at 5:37 pm

What is his family eating that costs $200,000 per year?

El Pinche September 19, 2011 at 5:43 pm

Olive Garden everyday. BUT THATS GOING TO CHANGE NOW!

Comrade Wingtard September 19, 2011 at 7:36 pm

Doing the math … uh, and assuming he doesn't tip (which I think is safe), that would be 57.67 endless pasta bowls per day.

poncho_pilot September 19, 2011 at 5:45 pm

what's small, soft, and filled with stem cells?

SayItWithWookies September 19, 2011 at 5:46 pm

Well, civet poop coffee alone can run upwards of $30,000 a year. Then you've got your gold-leafed truffles, your bowerbird-egg omelette — it adds up, and that's only breakfast.

ArmoredLibunatic September 19, 2011 at 6:28 pm

I don't know, but you could buy a LOT of five-dollar footlongs with that.

Steverino247 September 19, 2011 at 6:45 pm

They're eating my shit, that's what.

Well, they could be…

Negropolis September 20, 2011 at 2:47 am

Whore diamonds, darling, lots and lots of premium whore diamonds.

tessiee September 21, 2011 at 12:52 am

"What is his family eating that costs $200,000 per year?"

Members of the former middle class.

DaRooster September 19, 2011 at 5:38 pm

This guy needs a better accountant… sheesh… I could crap $400,000 if I started with $6.3 Million.

memzilla September 19, 2011 at 5:39 pm

Fleming owns "Subway stores and UPS locations."

But judging from his political contributors: "oil & gas:, "health," and "retired," in that order — I would've guessed he was running a chain of healthcare centers which catered to the extraction industry's lung disease victims.

Mojopo September 19, 2011 at 6:10 pm

Does it get any lower than this? Wow.

mannacler September 19, 2011 at 6:26 pm

And can you believe that anybody actually votes for this douche?

starfanglednut September 19, 2011 at 8:35 pm

Absolute fucking win.

imissopus September 19, 2011 at 9:28 pm

Fucker is actually a doctor, so maybe.

Also, he needed to join the Navy to get the money to pay for med school. Another small government asshole who has relied on the government to help him get where he is and now wants to turn around and make sure no one else has a similar opportunity.

antispandex September 19, 2011 at 5:39 pm

Wealth IS relative. A man with only a bushel of wheat, is wealthy in a village of starving people. Having said that, if you can go on the TeeVee, in an economy like this, and complain you ONLY take home 400k a year, you are not only wealthy, you are a heartless fuck…and Jesus HATES you!

unclejeems September 19, 2011 at 8:02 pm

Well said, oh one who for some reason has glommed on to the fact the late President Franklin Pierce is an ancestor of George W.

antispandex September 20, 2011 at 8:24 pm

Well, they are the worst Presidents in history…so there's that.

DahBoner September 19, 2011 at 5:39 pm

You people probably don't realize how much it costs to buy shoes with shoe radar for your kids, do you?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/12/1012

Lionel[redacted]Esq September 19, 2011 at 5:40 pm

Rep. Flemming has a point, as $400K is not that much money to live on since hookers and coke are not tax deductible.

Dr_Zoidberg September 19, 2011 at 5:40 pm

I detest these people with a passion that burns hotter than a million suns.

BaldarTFlagass September 19, 2011 at 6:33 pm

Someone had to say it.

V572 T-Blow September 19, 2011 at 5:40 pm

So yes, this brave Job Creator with his minimum-wage-earning, part-time-employed workforce of sandwich assemblers actually does create jobs — and you only have to go to your local Subway two or three times to see the turnover is about 100%/week, because the smarter kids get better jobs and the stoner/losers just stop showing up after a while. But all work is honorable and everybody has to start somewhere — at least, everybody who's going to have to earn a living.

But what about all the people whose income is solely from dividends and interest, and who therefore pay only 15% income tax? They (wisely) stay out of what is left of newspapers (except maybe the "society page," if that excrescence still exists) so it's not easy to produce a list of them. But why and how does a ridiculously low tax rate on these parasites rent seekers "create jobs"?

Come on, "investigative" reporters: we've had enough tear-jerker stories about "How the Recession Affected One Family." Stop re-writing those press releases, and get out there and find the few Riches who haven't moved to tax havens. We need some stories about "How Low Tax Rates Ensure that the Children of Greenwich CT Will Never Fill Out a W4," or "Study Finds Prep School Graduates Typically Live at Home Until They're 30."

poncho_pilot September 19, 2011 at 5:42 pm

"derp derp derp class warfare derp derp derp. i'm going to go jerk off into my copy of Atlas Shrugged. i use my ejaculate for a bookmark because i only have $400,000 for spending money and i'm poor, too." –John Fleming

Mojopo September 19, 2011 at 6:22 pm

I love this with my entire heart.

starfanglednut September 19, 2011 at 8:40 pm

If some of the pages stuck together, who'd know the difference?

DrunkenPalmetto September 19, 2011 at 5:42 pm

400k doesn't buy one a lot of transsexual hookers.

poncho_pilot September 19, 2011 at 5:55 pm

maybe there's a groupon so they can get their grope on.

DrunkenPalmetto September 19, 2011 at 5:57 pm

A cockpon

Geminisunmars September 19, 2011 at 6:17 pm

A discunt?

Gleem_McShineys September 19, 2011 at 6:22 pm

A male-in he-bate?

poncho_pilot September 19, 2011 at 6:26 pm

he could take a cue from one of his Subway locations: pay for 5 visits and get the 6th for free. the Donkey-Punch Card.

Lionel[redacted]Esq September 19, 2011 at 5:43 pm

I have a solution to this problems. Rep. Flemming can find eight people and give them $50K a year to see how well they can survive on that. In turn, he will see how well he can survive on just $25K a year, where he won't have to pay any taxes whatsoever. Whoever is in the best shape at the end of one (1) year gets to keep all of the money from then on.

Let's get it on!

Geminisunmars September 19, 2011 at 6:18 pm

And we'll film it, and sell it to the teevees, and we'll be the ones who are rich in the end.

pdiddycornchips September 19, 2011 at 5:43 pm

Meh, next week he'll be complaining about those overpaid union workers. Wingnuts have never really squared this circle have they?

45k a year union member—Overpaid

400k take home pay politico—on the verge of poverty

antispandex September 19, 2011 at 5:52 pm

Wish I could rate twice.

Sassomatic September 19, 2011 at 5:45 pm

Well, what with the cost of whore diamonds these days, can you blame him?

Radiotherapy® September 19, 2011 at 5:45 pm

I stare at anchor Chris Jansing blankly too, if you know what I mean.

SudsMcKenzie September 19, 2011 at 5:54 pm

What part of "Jansing and Company" doesn't he get? She is obviously a business owner too.

poncho_pilot September 19, 2011 at 5:58 pm

hello, nurse.

DahBoner September 19, 2011 at 5:45 pm

On April 27, 1942, President Franklin D. Roosevelt asked Congress to cap the income that any one American could claim and keep. With the United States in "grave national danger," said Roosevelt, "no American citizen ought to have a net income, after he has paid his taxes, of more than $25,000 a year." That would be the equivalent of an income a bit above $200,000 $330,680 today….

V572 T-Blow September 19, 2011 at 5:56 pm

And oh, how his own class hated Roosevelt. They called him "that man in the White House" because they couldn't bear to say his name.

And hey, aren't we fighting a Global War on Terrorism or Terror or some such? Bring it on!

ApplesauceRobot September 19, 2011 at 5:49 pm

This just makes me miss Ted Kennedy.

GeorgiaBurning September 19, 2011 at 6:06 pm

This makes me miss SENATOR Barack Obama

BTWBFDIMHO September 19, 2011 at 6:13 pm

And Antony Weiner.

Comrade Wingtard September 19, 2011 at 7:39 pm

Bah … makes me miss Bill Haywood

Negropolis September 20, 2011 at 2:49 am

And Russ Feingold.

Indiepalin September 19, 2011 at 5:49 pm

Loopholes that should obviously be closed are any and all related to the mortgage deduction, discontinuing the current tax break on payroll deductions (which is not a tax at all, but a premium like for insurance), and eliminating the Earned Income Tax Credit which subsidizes the poor at the expense of the rich. All savings should then be shifted to allow income tax rate reductions for all who make more than $250,000 a year so they can get busy creating jobs without having to worry about making ends meet.

Goonemeritus September 19, 2011 at 5:49 pm

When he says feed his family what he is clearly talking about is the total family burn rate. For his family this appears to be 200k in after tax dollars. The 400k left over is what he has to invest in more locations and equipment. Stack this against what he pays his employees at his Subway shops. I would bet they average well under 20k per year with no meaningful benefits. How much do you think they have left over? The republican plan is to reach into the pocket of the 20k guy by cutting programs that subsidize bellow survival wages. How the fuck are they winning this argument, it’s absurd.

Sassomatic September 19, 2011 at 5:49 pm

Wait, AFTER you feed your family you only have $400,000 for [high-class hooker blow] jobs?

WordSaladNation September 19, 2011 at 5:50 pm

This guy needs to start a Kickstarter campaign, and by "Kickstarter campaign," I mean "someone should kick him in the ass."

WhatTheHolyHeck September 19, 2011 at 5:50 pm

MONEY ISN'T VIRTUE YOU FUCKING GODDAMN MISERABLE SACK OF SHIT YOU WOULDN'T KNOW VIRTUE IF ITS TWO-JOB-HOLDING, BARELY-GETTING-BY, SELF-SACRIFICING-FOR-THE-SAKE-OF-ITS-CHILDREN SELF KICKED YOU IN THE FUCKING TAINT YOU UNWORTHY PILE OF FESTERING EXCREMENT

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Huh, I don't feel any better. I wonder why.

WordSaladNation September 19, 2011 at 6:05 pm

That rant made my pee-pee get all tingly, for some reason.

iburl September 19, 2011 at 11:37 pm

Because they still own our asses?

user-of-owls September 20, 2011 at 12:17 am

Well, I feel just a bit better if that helps. But my ears hurt pretty good.

Slim_Pickins September 19, 2011 at 5:51 pm

He needs to take the clue bus to the station and get on the clue train, or maybe just get run over by the clue bus.

V572 T-Blow September 19, 2011 at 5:54 pm

Love your avatar.

Mojopo September 19, 2011 at 5:54 pm

You know, he's paying a shitload for that dye job. Maybe if he switched to a highlighting cap he could save money.

Meh, at least it's not old guy red. I guess.

poncho_pilot September 19, 2011 at 6:16 pm

i was just noticing he's looking kinda…Trump-like. just a bit.

Mojopo September 19, 2011 at 6:28 pm

When Obe is relected, I hope he retains Cornel West's hairdresser. That would make my day.

GorzoTheMighty September 19, 2011 at 5:59 pm

He cries class warfare everytime a valet expects a tip for parking his Mercedes. Hang him then give him a fair trial. Extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures.

KommunistKitty September 19, 2011 at 6:00 pm

What does a man who spends $200,000 per year "feeding his family" usually eat for dinner? California Condor marinated in the blood of the secret descendants of Czar Nicolas II?

WordSaladNation September 19, 2011 at 6:11 pm

The Wikipedia says that he's married with four children, so there are six people in the house. $200,000 divided by 365 days leaves him with $547.95 to spend per day on food. $547.95 divided by 6 is $91.32 each. Divide that by three meals a day, and you have about $30 per meal per day.

Amazon.com is selling Rice-a-Roni for about $1.15 per box. Maybe each of his children eats 26 boxes of Rice-a-Roni for dinner every night? WHO KNOWS.

poncho_pilot September 19, 2011 at 6:17 pm

he's probably so, sooo poor that he makes his family eat at Subway every night so he can write it off.

TanzbodenKoenig September 19, 2011 at 6:23 pm

4 adult children. He lives with his wife. She must be a motherfucking whale

WordSaladNation September 19, 2011 at 7:37 pm

Okay, so he lives with his wife. That leaves $91.32 for both of them per meal per day. That's more than enough to eat the menu.

tessiee September 21, 2011 at 12:57 am

"Maybe each of his children eats 26 boxes of Rice-a-Roni for dinner every night?"

I think you're thinking of Mike Hucklebee's kids.

flamingpdog September 19, 2011 at 6:03 pm

For fuck's sake, can we Wonketeers pool and cash in our hobo bean stocks and open up a Subway shop where everyone can eat the rich?

babyeinstein September 20, 2011 at 11:00 am

save a crocodile, eat a prep!

fuflans September 19, 2011 at 6:04 pm

does louisiana seem to elect an above average number of tools or is it just me?

Mojopo September 19, 2011 at 6:14 pm

I live in Illinois – hard for me to say. I have a hair caught in my Blagojevich.

fuflans September 19, 2011 at 6:42 pm

me too part of the time.

but i think our grade A asshole is joe walsh. blago was just corrupt.

Mojopo September 19, 2011 at 6:48 pm

I'm still mad they left him out of the Deadbeat Dad round-up on the 10:00 news 2 weeks prior to the mainstream coverage.

Geminisunmars September 19, 2011 at 6:38 pm

Hmm. I thought tools were useful.

GeorgiaBurning September 19, 2011 at 7:48 pm

They are- ask the Koch family

Comrade Wingtard September 19, 2011 at 7:53 pm

Yes, and furthermore it made me very depressed when something as horrible as Subway Sandwiches became successful here. Then I realized my fellow Louisianians were not even capable of being sandwich snobs, which is the one thing we have the right to be.

But politics? After Huey P Long it was all downhill.

ibwilliamsi September 20, 2011 at 3:03 am

I love Huey. Fucker knew how to bring home the bacon.

tessiee September 21, 2011 at 12:58 am

You mean Louisiana is actually above average at something?

zappadoo76 September 19, 2011 at 6:05 pm

Actually, class warfare has created many jobs. Just one example: the Great Strike of 1886, which eventually got Americans the 8 hour day. US business had to hire more workers to take up the slack.

There are lots of other examples, dickwad.

OKthennext September 19, 2011 at 6:07 pm

The U.S. Census Bureau says 2010 median income in Louisiana is…

…$39,443

Also, my kid watched the video and did the math ($600,000 income and "after I feed my family" $400,000 left) and asked "What is he feeding his family for $200,000?"

zappadoo76 September 19, 2011 at 6:10 pm

Well, you can't have them eating pet food.

anniegetyerfun September 19, 2011 at 6:40 pm

Pets. They eat very expensive pets, like Persian kittens. I mean probably. They are Republicans.

Lionel[redacted]Esq September 19, 2011 at 6:43 pm

Hookers and Blow?

OKthennext September 20, 2011 at 8:43 am

It's Louisiana. Definitely hookers.

SudsMcKenzie September 19, 2011 at 6:08 pm

He's right, its hard to put food on your family.

mavenmaven September 19, 2011 at 6:09 pm

"Class warfare has never created a job" he says. No, but it has overthrown corrupt systems a few times (Ceaușescu is a relevant parallel).

Mort_Sinclair September 19, 2011 at 6:26 pm

The sad thing is that the average American, or Amurkin, as the case may actually be, doesn't have the math skills to see that this dude's "math" is fucked up and that there's a difference between business income and personal income. But, shit, he'll find some illiterate, toothless teatard to yell, "Yeah! That's right!" at some Louisiana ditchbug festival. That teatard will probably donate some of his social security to this bozo, too. Fuck 'em all.

Sassomatic September 19, 2011 at 8:57 pm

Leave the ditchbugs out of this, if you don't mind.

anniegetyerfun September 19, 2011 at 6:27 pm

Every conservative I have ever met with cry a river for this guy. I'm not lying. They will. They weep for the long-suffering rich.

grex1949 September 19, 2011 at 6:27 pm

So, tell me again how much more this DB will pay if his marginal tax rate is increased under President Obama's plan? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

rocktonsam September 19, 2011 at 6:36 pm

needs moar charts and graphs and what not for really stupid people.

nevermind

Beetagger September 19, 2011 at 6:40 pm

He should be relieved of his head.

Gleem_McShineys September 19, 2011 at 6:44 pm

My first guillotine will be called "Tax Cut"

Lionel[redacted]Esq September 19, 2011 at 6:43 pm

You know who else could barely make ends meet on $400,000 a year, after spending $200,000 on feeding his family?

SudsMcKenzie September 19, 2011 at 6:47 pm

Charlie Sheen?

SayItWithWookies September 19, 2011 at 6:47 pm

William Howard Taft?

SayItWithWookies September 19, 2011 at 6:49 pm

Warren Jeffs?

Mojopo September 19, 2011 at 6:50 pm

Redd Foxx?

iburl September 19, 2011 at 6:51 pm

That's only slightly more than a third of a ounce of pure gold, per day, for his entire family to eat. You monsters!

ApplesauceRobot September 19, 2011 at 7:07 pm

Mike Huckabee?

rahelio September 19, 2011 at 9:00 pm

Todd Palin?

Negropolis September 20, 2011 at 2:54 am

Chris "Krispy Kreme" Christie?

Osama Bin Laden's daddy?

tessiee September 21, 2011 at 1:01 am

Chris Christie?

Barrelhse September 19, 2011 at 6:46 pm

This tragic situation is a real tear-jerker, and all too common these days. I'm sending the Phlegmings some of my food stamps.

Polythene_Pam September 19, 2011 at 11:37 pm

This is actually a pretty good idea. People should mail food stamps (or a facsimile of them, if you actually get food stamps & need them to actually feed your actual family) to every fat cat who cries that they won't be able to survive if the tax hikes are passed.

hagajim September 19, 2011 at 6:49 pm

Ahhh, but Fleming will get the poor, dumb lemming that is 'Merikan society to support him because – we are stupid tools.

fletc3her September 19, 2011 at 6:51 pm

I'm thinking, let's try class warfare. You know, just for a few years. See where it gets us.

Fox n Fiends September 19, 2011 at 6:54 pm

Job Creators are easier to replace than $10/hour workers.

iburl September 19, 2011 at 6:55 pm

Money = Virtue
Therefore George Soros is a better person than Rush Limbaugh.

jus_wonderin September 19, 2011 at 7:00 pm

Does Fleming need a second job???

emmelemm September 19, 2011 at 7:28 pm

He has a second job: being a Congresscritter.

chimpgod September 19, 2011 at 7:00 pm

The Wall St Journal story referenced in the interview seems to indicate that the $6.3M is income, not revenue. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904

imissopus September 19, 2011 at 7:10 pm

Let's pass the collection plate for the poor guy. I'll throw in two weeks' worth of crud I swept off my kitchen floor this morning.

Chichikovovich September 19, 2011 at 7:12 pm

Y'know gang. I think we are being narrow-minded here. If the Republicans want to be known as the party of people who can't make ends meet on (actually well over) $400,000 a year, then it would be wrong of us to prevent them. They should be encouraged to embrace their inner nature and celebrate it.

donner_froh September 19, 2011 at 7:22 pm

Class warfare would allow Mr. Fucknutz Fleming to find out exactly how valuable he really is. Maybe he can hold down a spot on the sandwich line at one of his Subway shops for minimum wage plus an extra dime an hour.

owhatever September 19, 2011 at 7:29 pm

Congressman Fleming,
Is a GOP lemming,
Living off the fat of the land.

dsgruntled September 19, 2011 at 7:48 pm

I'm telling everyone I know to never eat at SCUMWAY again. Lets see he gets by on only $390,000 !!!

Sue4466 September 19, 2011 at 7:51 pm

He actually said he nets $600,000 and after "feeding his family," he only has $400,000 left. So that's $200,000/year to feed his family. Even shopping at Whole Foods shouldn't cost him that much. Oh, and there's the $174,000 congressional salary.

But yet he complains about the federal budget and overspending?

Chichikovovich September 19, 2011 at 7:56 pm

Sad news, mes chums. I examined Fleming's financial disclosure forms, and I was stunned to learn that this seemingly upstanding Christian gentleman is lying through his teeth:
http://clerk.house.gov/public_disc/financial-pdfs

First Jim Tressel, then this. What has happened to the role models for America's youth?

Barrelhse September 19, 2011 at 9:14 pm

Why, that little bitch.

snoopyfan2010 September 19, 2011 at 8:05 pm

In other countries, Republicans fight for the people not the corporations.

LiveToServeYa September 19, 2011 at 8:23 pm

Madame Guillotine could decrease his shortfall. Allons enfants de la Patrie, le jour de gloire est arrive…

Gomez571 September 19, 2011 at 8:24 pm

If my math is correct, class warefare is asking this asshole to pay $4,500 more in taxes. (3% of $400,000 – $250,000)

x111e7thst September 19, 2011 at 8:50 pm

John? Come here. I need to explain a thing to you. Making you pay your fair share of taxes is just good policy, and pretty good politics too. It's not class warfare till we hang you from a streetlight. By your feet.

tessiee September 21, 2011 at 1:03 am

John? Come here. I need to explain a thing to you.

SLAPPITTY SLAP SLAP SLAP!!!

Terry September 19, 2011 at 9:00 pm

This bozo is from the fourth district in Louisiana, in which Shreveport is the only highly populated area…if you can even call it that. His district is full of people for whom $400,000 is years and years worth of salary. His opponent in the next election should run this clip on tv over and over.

tessiee September 21, 2011 at 1:05 am

"His opponent in the next election should run this clip on tv over and over."

And yet, somehow, I have a feeling that he or she won't.

DemonicRage September 19, 2011 at 9:01 pm

I will not be able to sleep tonight, playing and replaying in my mind the fact that with $400,000, this man would have so much difficulty feeding his family. DOES HE REALIZE THAT 500,000 ARE FACING IMMINENT STARVATION IN SOMALIA WHEN HE SAYS THAT????????

starfanglednut September 19, 2011 at 9:01 pm

Ok let's see. As a disabled person, I get $143/month in food stamps.

*scribble, scribble, scribble (yes, asshole, disabled people can do math)

Equals $1,716 per year. Supposing there were 6 of me, that'd be $10,296. Oh, but I don't pay any income tax! And he only has $200,000 to feed himself, his wife, and his four kids! And he's so much more virtuous than me, as clearly indicated by his wealth! That poor guy, I feel so sorry for him. They should def cut my foodstamps. It's only fair.

Chichikovovich September 19, 2011 at 9:06 pm

maudit'ostie, the more I learn about this weasel the more I detest him. He has four children, the youngest of them is 21/22 years old, the oldest is over 30. Perhaps these layabouts are still being "fed" by Daddy, but if so, the fact that they can't get off their asses to provide for themselves should not be taken as a basis for national tax policy. And if they do in fact have real jobs and independent lives, then Mr. John Calvin Fleming is slinging some serious merde de taureau.

"Feed my family" indeed.

BTWBFDIMHO September 19, 2011 at 10:56 pm

He's afraid of warfare but I'm sure he denies union rights to his workers, while he is a member of the local Chamber of Commerce and who knows how many lobbies.
I miss Marx, Engels & Brothers, now.

comrad_darkness September 20, 2011 at 12:01 am

400k out of 6.3, eh? Let me guess, 2 mil of it a year goes into a annuity life insurance scam policy that he can borrow from at 0% interest without paying any tax nor ever paying any of it back.

Polythene_Pam September 20, 2011 at 12:57 am

http://www.facebook.com/RepJohnFleming

He's apparently deleting comments that are critical of him from his facebook wall post re: this story.

Not only is he poor, now we're hurting his feelings!

Negropolis September 20, 2011 at 2:29 am

No snark, but this is the central belief of conservative, Evangelical, American Christianity. That is that having wealth, in and of itself, is a virtue, and that being poor is a curse or moral failing. It is easily one of the most disgusting, vile corruptions of Biblical teachings you'll ever find, and it is probably one of the most uniquely American aspects of the modern faith in this country.

Shameless, absolutely shameless. Karma, come on back around, and be quick about it, this time.

Blessed are the job creators, for they shall….

horsedreamer_1 September 20, 2011 at 1:44 pm

Go to Hell?

Hahaha. There is no Hell, and these people know it. They preach eternal reward in Heaven to the Poors, all the while knowing the riches of the Earth are all there is. And they have them.

Negropolis September 20, 2011 at 10:45 pm

They preach eternal reward in Heaven to the Poors

No they don't; they don't even do that, anymore. Liberal evangelicals preach that (and, it's actually in the Bible). The conservative evangelicals are all about the "prosperity gospel" these days that preaches that the accumulation of material wealth on earth is next to godliness (the complete opposite of what Jesus actually taught in the Bible). It's mind boggling the degree to which they get away with this perversion.

salt_bagel September 20, 2011 at 7:15 am

This tard is so clueless that he really thinks he holds the moral high ground here. He has himself hypnotized into thinking he's right, because if any real compassion entered his little infant brain, it'd pop from the cognitive dissonance.

I'm gonna turn off the snark for a second and say that EVERYONE NEEDS TO SPREAD THIS VIDEO, NOW. Putting a face on the selfishness needs to happen. It's stuff like this that will open the public's eyes and see these pricks at face value.

Naked_Bunny September 20, 2011 at 9:09 am

The $400,000 take-home pay is even more impressive when you notice that he only works part time at best.

babyeinstein September 20, 2011 at 11:01 am

"You do understand that, don't you? ….Don't you? Jesus Christ, DON'T YOU???"

Porter Melmoth September 20, 2011 at 1:29 pm

Anyone who even mentions class warfare is indeed waging class warfare. With the 'upper class', wagons are always pre-circled.

ttommyunger September 20, 2011 at 1:47 pm

Multi-Millionaire Rep. John Fleming: Definitely a Finalist in the 2011 "Most Out-of-Touch Asshole in the Country" competition.

BZ1 September 20, 2011 at 4:53 pm

he spends $200,000 a year to feed his family? ooh sure …

hellbabe September 20, 2011 at 7:55 pm

expenses? what about after taxes? they're two totally different things. it'd be great if he had $400,000 after taxes. then, the taxes would be a little closer to just about right

tessiee September 21, 2011 at 12:35 am

"Barack Obama’s proposal to raise taxes on the super-rich"

You guys, I found this spine; anyone know who it belongs to?

horsedreamer_1 September 20, 2011 at 1:39 pm

In Wisconsin, we have taken to calling that Tonette Deafness.

Jukesgrrl September 20, 2011 at 8:48 pm

That's GREAT!

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