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Multi-Millionaire Rep. John Fleming Can’t Afford Obama’s Rich People Tax

House Republicans are flapping their jowls across the airwaves today complaining about Barack Obama’s proposal to raise taxes on the super-rich, because it’s a lot harder to survive on half a million dollars than your average middle-class hobo socialist who lives on a salary of $40,000 thinks it is. Louisiana Rep. John Fleming will make this point with math, by explaining that he grosses $6.3 million a year from his businesses, but he only takes home around $400,000 per year after expenses. And then he stares at anchor Chris Jansing blankly, because, uh, yeah, that was his point. What part of that wasn’t clear? Only $400,000, that’s what he wanted to say. Helloooo?

Might people not be entirely sympathetic to someone complaining about taxes being raised on his $400,000 a year income, Jansing asks? To which John Fleming replies that he should not be punished for having “virtue” in the form of millions of dollars, like Jesus. [ThinkProgress]

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  • PuckStopsHere

    NEVER feel sorry for somebody who makes more money than you.

    • Lascauxcaveman

      And NEVER plead poverty to someone who makes less than you.

      • a_pink_poodle

        I'm stealing that line for my use.

    • LettucePrey

      Maybe he can use that meager $400,000 to buy the world's tiniest Stradivarius.

      • DaRooster

        But then he couldn't afford Red Lobster.

    • Mojopo

      I don't know why he thinks he has a right to complain. He is not really rich. Only poors talk about take-home pay.

    • fuflans

      yeah, no i don't

  • Come here a minute

    I wonder if it would be more profitable to sell torches or pitchforks outside Rep. Flemming's house.

    • poncho_pilot

      flaming pitchforks.

      • Gleem_McShineys

        I'll take two!

    • Callyson

      Throw in a slingshot and I'll buy up your supply. Am guessing the resale value will only increase once more people hear this guy's drivel.

    • Not_So_Much

      Either way, you'll only be paid in emaciated chickens and potatoes…

    • BobsGunt

      put your faith in the Almighty Free Market, and it shall guide you.

    • flamingpdog

      Yes. But don't scare his teenagers.

  • finallyhappy

    I'll trade with him and pay the rich people tax. After "expenses"- meaning he writes off every personal thing he has on the business

    • DahBoner

      You know, I have a lot of "expenses" to write off in order to do my work.

      I need food. Shelter. Transportation. Hookers. Etc…

      • Jukesgrrl

        Don't forget a cleaning service, a landscaper, a driver, and a personal shopper so you have time to work (and be a job creator, too!)

    • hagajim

      Wouldn't part of those "expenses" he refers to include the taxes he currently pays? If so, then he would only bring home about $12,000 less than he does now…poor, poor bastard.

      • EatFrankRich

        $12,000 being, oddly enough, more than average salary he pays his 500 workers. H/T to the DFHs at the Kos for figuring that out, because Math Is Hard.

      • ibwilliamsi

        $12,000 less? And some asswipe is going to do something stupid with it like buy peanut butter or cheese for the kids! Is nothing safe?

    • Dashboard_Jesus

      yeah exactly…actually I believe the douchebag said that AFTER he 'feeds his family' he only has about $400K left to reinvest (which is probably bullshit) so he didn't say he makes ONLY $400K…my bet is he pays himself a MUCH bigger salary than that, cuz his family has to eat (caviar?), the kids have to go to private (white) schools, his wife needs lots of jewelry, he drives multiple luxury (German?) cars/ monster SUVs & lives in a mansion in a gated community (to keep the poorz out!) so the $400K is just GRAVY after all his *bills* are paid…fucking typical lying hypocritical Repig

  • Barb

    This is why slavery should be brought back. You don't have to pay them! Makes being super rich so much easier. I'm tired of the "job creators" being stressed out like this.

    • Indiepalin

      And our pickininnies had a much better shot at a good life back then. In fact, Quentin Tarantino is making a movie on that very subject, starring Samuel L. Jackson.

    • widget2011

      Yeah, I'm in that quandry right now, I work for a company that is way, way top heavy and have a foreign boss is is an R-(Asshole) who has about 3 Lexus'es, comes into the office at 9:00 AM, works to 11:30, has a 3 hour lunch and leaves at 4:00 PM. I work about 50 hour a week, and he has a shit fit. I have worked about 250 to 400 hours a year off the clock, because I want to keep my job. All I have to say is MEAN PEOPLE SUCK.

    • TheMightyHaltor

      Nah, the Teatards would then complain the the slaves PAY NO TAXES!!!

    • GeorgiaBurning

      Real slaves were a problem in a down economy- you can't lay them off, you take a loss on selling, and starving them looks bad. Thanks to union busting, the last option is not only available but considered patriotic with hourly workers.

    • Dashboard_Jesus

      yeah it does keep me up at night wondering how the assholes are going to *feed their families* on ONLY $400K, food ain't cheap y'know (funny but I know a fair number of these rich folk and most of them buy/ consume only the highest quality organic foods and such, cuz they don't want the kids to eat the same chemicals/ poison they're selling to make the big $$$ )

  • memzilla

    Au contraire, mon cherie! The French Revolution created puh-lenty of jerbs, and had the added benefit of ridding the country of the poor-mouthing nobility which was leeching away its GDP.

    Is it just me, or has everybody noticed that Rethuglicans, when confronted with the merest whiff of the word "plutocrat," go into this glassy-eyed glaze, and the next three sentences contain the phrase "job creators?"

    • savethispatient

      And of course, the most popular job the French Revolution created was the Guillotine Sharpener.

      • Rotundo_

        And I always thought it was the guy on the lever. Though it would be fun to dull it up a bit before a particularly nasty bastard came up for his reward. Edited to add: Sorta like this guy.

        • Crank_Tango

          I wonder if they make hybrid tumbrils these days? Cuz I could drive the shit outta one of them!

      • http://www.deathwishcreeps.com/about/ Comrade Wingtard

        I don't think they had to be all that sharp, either. Nevertheless, the only "smart weapon" ever invented.

    • pdiddycornchips

      Don't forget class warfare. That's their favorite.

      It was Karl Rove who suggested the phrase "job creators" to replace "wealthy" or "rich". BTW–just where are all those job these creators are creating?

      • GeorgiaBurning

        China, isn't it obvious???

        • Swampgas_Man

          No, no — they're being purposely KEPT from creating jerbs by fear of the social-welfare taxes. It's the Kenyan's fault!

      • Chichikovovich

        Perhaps we can out-Rove them: when they complain about taxing "job creators" we can say "but its good to be able to tax people like Mitt Romney. You know – Job *Destroyers*."

      • http://wonkette.com/ starfanglednut

        I have long maintained that W was elected twice through the clever manipulation of language, with phrases like "support the troops" replacing "support wars no matter whether they are just, and no matter the human suffering involved" I would not be remotely surprised if Rove had a few linguists on board. Democrats suck at manipulating language in this manner, either because they are not sleazy enough or because they are just hopeless wimps, I'm not sure which.

        • Jukesgrrl

          I agree. I heard more than one progressive accuse the Republicans of class warfare against the poors months ago — but what do they do? They snatch up the insult and turn it right around to mean what THEY want it to mean. As much as they make me want to vomit, I am in awe of their discipline. Try and get three Democrats to use the same buzz word on the same day. Meanwhile the Republicans can get 3,000 of them to do it.

        • tessiee

          Sorry, can't agree with you there.
          Dumbya wasn't elected once, let alone twice.

          • http://wonkette.com/ starfanglednut

            Good point. I probably didn't phrase my thought properly. I just feel that manipulating language helped him keep a psychological hold over the population.

  • http://www.wonkette.com ManchuCandidate

    Mo money. Mo whining.

  • Texan_Bulldog

    As much as the tin foilers at DailyKos annoy me, one of them actually did the math. Basically, he pays all his employees around $11K a year. I guess they get by by eating the Subway leftovers people dump in the trash.
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/09/19/1018241/

    • Texan_Bulldog

      And I imagine most of these employees are kids/part time. That means ole Ebenezer doesn't have to pony up for health insurance for the majority of them. Double win!

      • ibwilliamsi

        I'm thinking that they're not legal.

    • mumbly_joe

      Well, he's clearly making numbers up, is the main point, since he also claimed that "feeding his family" (including four adult children) costs him, personally, $200,000/year

      • Geminisunmars

        It ain't cheap, not eating at the Olive Garden, you know.

      • http://wonkette.com/ starfanglednut

        Does he feed them, or just get it on them?

      • Naked_Bunny

        Hey, flying in fresh French cuisine every day adds up.

    • Barrelhse

      Don't you love it when the Job Creators bitch about having to PAY the fucking employees?
      "I mean, they're lucky to have a job and now they want money!?"

      • glamourdammerung

        Keep in mind a year or two ago, these same sorts were crying about an attempt by Democrats to make it illegal to import goods made with slave labor as it was a "job killing regulation".

  • axmxz

    Republican businessman surprised and outraged that he has to pay workers, claims class warfare, threatens to fire those good-for-nothing non-slave workers. News at 11.

  • Mojopo

    Diamond in the back, sunroof top, digging the scene with a gangsta lean…

    • ibwilliamsi

      ooh – ooh- hoo…

    • tessiee

      Holy fuck, we are OLD!

  • LettucePrey

    Anyone notice that the math is way off?

    $6.3 million (minus the $400,000 left over) means he's paying each of his 500 employees only $11,800 a year. He's either full of BS, and/or he's just a Republican and most of his workers are sub-minimum wage illegals.

    • El Pinche

      Yes, yes, and yes.

    • jjdaddyo

      People have also pointed out that he may not be including his $174,000/ year Congressional salary (not to mention bennies) in this calculation either.

      • Peckners

        What's weird is the WSJ has a story in which he more or less brags that the $6.3 is his profit-share. So you would assume from the way that article describes it, all those workers and rents and equipment has already been paid for. In fact it mentions ONE of his joints pulls in $5 million alone. Unless all these other ventures together gross a $1.6 mil, he's lying. This seems like a very easy thing to debunk.
        The WSJ put up its firwall on me. Google: "Side Jobs Bolster Some Lawmakers' Paychecks"

      • NorthStarSpanx

        He's a rep from Louisiana? Sounds like a Texan job-creator to me. Rick Perry likes his math.

  • SudsMcKenzie

    I'm not a violent person by nature, but I would beat the Shit out of this person for his lunch money.

    • comrad_darkness

      His lunch money appears to be $500 plus a day. Me, you and One_who_wanders can go eat sushi till we puke.

      • SudsMcKenzie

        Food makes me sick, lets just get cocktails.

        • LesBontemps

          Um, aren't cocktails one of the six food groups?

          • tessiee

            *thinks*
            Um, let's see…
            *counts on fingers*
            Sugar, salt, fat, caffeine…
            [chocolate has all four, which is why nutritionists consider it a perfect food]
            Cigarettes and alcohol…

            Yup, you're right.

    • arihaya

      I wish your enterprise today may thrive

  • LettucePrey

    Also, WTF is he feeding his family? $100 bills marinated in Dom Perignon?

    • Mojopo

      Whole Foods.

      • DahBoner

        The MAJORITY of produce in WF is the same, pesticide-coated crap you can buy in any supermarket…

      • BTWBFDIMHO

        Ass-Whole Foods?

    • SayItWithWookies

      Don't be ridiculous. Cristal.

    • a_pink_poodle

      How dare you?! This man's family is barely starving and yet you mock him for going to extreme lengths to keep his family fed with turducken, Dom Perignon and $100 bills to wipe their hands?! For Gods sake, they can only afford to drink wine imported every day from Italy! ITALY!

      Do you know what they have to resort to eating to survive? Kobi beef in a red wine burgundy truffle sauce with a side of Black Sea caviar mixed with a pound of gold flecks every other God damn day. Just think about what you say about the unfortunate next time before you open your damn MOUTH

      • Dashboard_Jesus

        wow now that you put it in perspective like that I actually kinda feel sorry for the *poor* slob…that kinda diet will KILL you!

      • tessiee

        Yes, and their sweaters are made from [shudder] Chinese cashmere!

  • Lascauxcaveman

    Also, dipshit, business expenses are the expenses you have to run your business. That's why you don't take them home. They're paying for stuff at your business. They're write-offable. So they count against what you pay in taxes, get it?

    Look, maybe you should hire and accountant or something.

    • smitallica

      Thank you! I'm glad I'm not the only one sitting here thinking "Umm, isn't there a difference between PERSONAL, take home income and business income/expenses?" I don't give a shit what your BUSINESS makes. What's your SALARY, dickhead?

    • Geminisunmars

      Does the IRS know about this?? Anyone have their phone #?

    • BarackMyWorld

      Now that you've destroyed the "upper income tax hikes hurt small businesses" argument, I'm sure the Republicans will hop on board and support the president's proposal.

      Wait, sorry…forgot I wasn't living in a world where facts can actually change someone's mind.

    • ibwilliamsi

      He has three, one to go along with each set of books.

    • ThankYouJeebus

      Plus, if his net earnings are only $400K then he doesn't qualify for the millionaire tax. This stupid asshat is bad at math and basic reading comprehension.

  • axmxz

    What do you mean, either?

  • axmxz

    The guy is why swirlies and audits were invented.

    • Swampgas_Man

      And wedgies.

  • http://whatisawatthedevolution.blogspot.com imissopus

    I had sent this to Wonkette's tips without actually watching the video, and now that I have watched the video, I find it's even better than advertised. The end, when he tells the anchor that class warfare never solves anything? Awesome. Someone should mention to him that class warfare did relieve Marie Antoinette of the burden of walking around with that pesky head atop her shoulders.

    • Tommmcattt

      And it seems to me there was a country, a rather large one, whose foray into class warfare- when they overthrew the reigning monarchist government- resulted in a system of government looked to by the world as the pinnacle of freedom and justice. I just can't put my finger on which one it was…it's on the tip of my tongue…

      • SudsMcKenzie

        I'm sorry, can you put that into a "you know what other country" format? otherwise I have to think.

        • Crank_Tango

          hitler?

          • SudsMcKenzie

            all of them Katie?

      • glamourdammerung

        France?

  • http://johnnyzhivago.blogspot.com johnnyzhivago

    Blessed are the billionaires, as they shall owneth the Earth….

    • http://www.wonkette.com ManchuCandidate

      True, but at this point I don't think you need "shall."

    • Rotundo_

      But us meek folk get it after they wipe their asses with it! That has to count for something right?

    • bikerlaureate

      "Much will be required of the person entrusted with much, and still more will be demanded of the person entrusted with more."

      That verse would carry weight, of course, only with those virtuous enough to render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's.

  • DahBoner

    Cmon, you people should know by now that it's NOT "Class Warfare" when you give taxcuts to billionaires so they can pay less taxes than their secretary and janitor.

    IT'S ONLY FUCKING CLASS WARFARE WHEN YOU WANT TO MAKE RICH PEOPLE PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE…

    • LettucePrey

      The good Congressman has not studied nearly enough history if he thinks being grilled on MSNBC is "class warfare".

      Class warfare is when the poors come after you with pitchforks and guillotines, bro.

    • mumbly_joe

      Of course not. "Warfare" implies that the other side is fighting back. The status quo is more of a Class Massacre or Class Atrocity.

      • tessiee

        It's only class warfare when you point it out.

    • LesBontemps

      As far as I can tell, some actual class warfare is exactly what we need.

  • SayItWithWookies

    Wow, these brass-balled captains of industry — these bold entrepreneurs who crossed the desert, these never-say-die visionaries who dammed mighty rivers, built skyscrapers and did what they said couldn't be done — have sure turned into a whiny possel of nancy boys haven't they? That's probably President Obama's fault too, now that I think of it.

  • Eve8Apples

    He doesn't mention that he deducts all those "expenses" from his gross income when calculating his tax payments. The bastard probably gets a tax refund from Uncle Sam.

    If anyone needs me, I'll be at Home Depot picking up materials for my do it yourself guillotine project. If these bastards want class warfare, I'm prepared to go French Revolution on their asses.

    • unclejeems

      Um, if you need someone to hold the bucket that, you know, catches the lopped off heads, I'm your guy.

    • BobsGunt

      liberté, egalité, and fraternité

    • mourningnmerica

      I'm taking up knitting as we speak.

    • NorthStarSpanx

      When asked in August 2008 by Pastor Rick Warren to define "rich," McCain famously replied, "So — so — so I think if you're just talking about income, how about 5 million."

      So technically speaking, Fleming is middle America.

  • http://whatisawatthedevolution.blogspot.com imissopus

    Plus it just occurred to me, don't House reps make something like $180,000 a year? Cry me another fucking river, asshole.

  • edgydrifter

    FYI, Congressman Vanilla-Douche: If you need 500 employees to gross $6.3M annually, your company sucks. What industry are you in–professional panhandling?

    • DahBoner

      That's because most of the workers quit after one hour or get swept up in Immigration raids or die horrible deaths in industrial accidents…

      • Geminisunmars

        Ooops.

  • arihaya

    oh please you stupid Libruls, if he should pay Millionaire taxes, he will not be able to afford rentboys anymore

  • Polythene_Pam

    What is his family eating that costs $200,000 per year?

    • El Pinche

      Olive Garden everyday. BUT THATS GOING TO CHANGE NOW!

      • http://www.deathwishcreeps.com/about/ Comrade Wingtard

        Doing the math … uh, and assuming he doesn't tip (which I think is safe), that would be 57.67 endless pasta bowls per day.

    • poncho_pilot

      what's small, soft, and filled with stem cells?

    • SayItWithWookies

      Well, civet poop coffee alone can run upwards of $30,000 a year. Then you've got your gold-leafed truffles, your bowerbird-egg omelette — it adds up, and that's only breakfast.

    • ArmoredLibunatic

      I don't know, but you could buy a LOT of five-dollar footlongs with that.

    • Steverino247

      They're eating my shit, that's what.

      Well, they could be…

    • Negropolis

      Whore diamonds, darling, lots and lots of premium whore diamonds.

    • tessiee

      "What is his family eating that costs $200,000 per year?"

      Members of the former middle class.

  • DaRooster

    This guy needs a better accountant… sheesh… I could crap $400,000 if I started with $6.3 Million.

  • memzilla

    Fleming owns "Subway stores and UPS locations."

    But judging from his political contributors: "oil & gas:, "health," and "retired," in that order — I would've guessed he was running a chain of healthcare centers which catered to the extraction industry's lung disease victims.

    • Mojopo

      Does it get any lower than this? Wow.

      • mannacler

        And can you believe that anybody actually votes for this douche?

    • http://wonkette.com/ starfanglednut

      Absolute fucking win.

    • http://whatisawatthedevolution.blogspot.com imissopus

      Fucker is actually a doctor, so maybe.

      Also, he needed to join the Navy to get the money to pay for med school. Another small government asshole who has relied on the government to help him get where he is and now wants to turn around and make sure no one else has a similar opportunity.

  • antispandex

    Wealth IS relative. A man with only a bushel of wheat, is wealthy in a village of starving people. Having said that, if you can go on the TeeVee, in an economy like this, and complain you ONLY take home 400k a year, you are not only wealthy, you are a heartless fuck…and Jesus HATES you!

    • unclejeems

      Well said, oh one who for some reason has glommed on to the fact the late President Franklin Pierce is an ancestor of George W.

      • antispandex

        Well, they are the worst Presidents in history…so there's that.

  • DahBoner

    You people probably don't realize how much it costs to buy shoes with shoe radar for your kids, do you?
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/12/1012

  • Lionel[redacted]Esq

    Rep. Flemming has a point, as $400K is not that much money to live on since hookers and coke are not tax deductible.

  • Dr_Zoidberg

    I detest these people with a passion that burns hotter than a million suns.

    • BaldarTFlagass

      Someone had to say it.

  • V572 T-Blow

    So yes, this brave Job Creator with his minimum-wage-earning, part-time-employed workforce of sandwich assemblers actually does create jobs — and you only have to go to your local Subway two or three times to see the turnover is about 100%/week, because the smarter kids get better jobs and the stoner/losers just stop showing up after a while. But all work is honorable and everybody has to start somewhere — at least, everybody who's going to have to earn a living.

    But what about all the people whose income is solely from dividends and interest, and who therefore pay only 15% income tax? They (wisely) stay out of what is left of newspapers (except maybe the "society page," if that excrescence still exists) so it's not easy to produce a list of them. But why and how does a ridiculously low tax rate on these parasites rent seekers "create jobs"?

    Come on, "investigative" reporters: we've had enough tear-jerker stories about "How the Recession Affected One Family." Stop re-writing those press releases, and get out there and find the few Riches who haven't moved to tax havens. We need some stories about "How Low Tax Rates Ensure that the Children of Greenwich CT Will Never Fill Out a W4," or "Study Finds Prep School Graduates Typically Live at Home Until They're 30."

  • poncho_pilot

    "derp derp derp class warfare derp derp derp. i'm going to go jerk off into my copy of Atlas Shrugged. i use my ejaculate for a bookmark because i only have $400,000 for spending money and i'm poor, too." –John Fleming

    • Mojopo

      I love this with my entire heart.

    • http://wonkette.com/ starfanglednut

      If some of the pages stuck together, who'd know the difference?

  • DrunkenPalmetto

    400k doesn't buy one a lot of transsexual hookers.

    • poncho_pilot

      maybe there's a groupon so they can get their grope on.

      • DrunkenPalmetto

        A cockpon

        • Geminisunmars

          A discunt?

          • Gleem_McShineys

            A male-in he-bate?

          • poncho_pilot

            he could take a cue from one of his Subway locations: pay for 5 visits and get the 6th for free. the Donkey-Punch Card.

  • Lionel[redacted]Esq

    I have a solution to this problems. Rep. Flemming can find eight people and give them $50K a year to see how well they can survive on that. In turn, he will see how well he can survive on just $25K a year, where he won't have to pay any taxes whatsoever. Whoever is in the best shape at the end of one (1) year gets to keep all of the money from then on.

    Let's get it on!

    • Geminisunmars

      And we'll film it, and sell it to the teevees, and we'll be the ones who are rich in the end.

  • pdiddycornchips

    Meh, next week he'll be complaining about those overpaid union workers. Wingnuts have never really squared this circle have they?

    45k a year union member—Overpaid

    400k take home pay politico—on the verge of poverty

    • antispandex

      Wish I could rate twice.

  • Sassomatic

    Well, what with the cost of whore diamonds these days, can you blame him?

  • Radiotherapy®

    I stare at anchor Chris Jansing blankly too, if you know what I mean.

    • SudsMcKenzie

      What part of "Jansing and Company" doesn't he get? She is obviously a business owner too.

    • poncho_pilot

      hello, nurse.

  • DahBoner

    On April 27, 1942, President Franklin D. Roosevelt asked Congress to cap the income that any one American could claim and keep. With the United States in "grave national danger," said Roosevelt, "no American citizen ought to have a net income, after he has paid his taxes, of more than $25,000 a year." That would be the equivalent of an income a bit above $200,000 $330,680 today….

    • V572 T-Blow

      And oh, how his own class hated Roosevelt. They called him "that man in the White House" because they couldn't bear to say his name.

      And hey, aren't we fighting a Global War on Terrorism or Terror or some such? Bring it on!

  • ApplesauceRobot

    This just makes me miss Ted Kennedy.

    • GeorgiaBurning

      This makes me miss SENATOR Barack Obama

    • BTWBFDIMHO

      And Antony Weiner.

    • http://www.deathwishcreeps.com/about/ Comrade Wingtard

      Bah … makes me miss Bill Haywood

    • Negropolis

      And Russ Feingold.

  • Indiepalin

    Loopholes that should obviously be closed are any and all related to the mortgage deduction, discontinuing the current tax break on payroll deductions (which is not a tax at all, but a premium like for insurance), and eliminating the Earned Income Tax Credit which subsidizes the poor at the expense of the rich. All savings should then be shifted to allow income tax rate reductions for all who make more than $250,000 a year so they can get busy creating jobs without having to worry about making ends meet.

  • Goonemeritus

    When he says feed his family what he is clearly talking about is the total family burn rate. For his family this appears to be 200k in after tax dollars. The 400k left over is what he has to invest in more locations and equipment. Stack this against what he pays his employees at his Subway shops. I would bet they average well under 20k per year with no meaningful benefits. How much do you think they have left over? The republican plan is to reach into the pocket of the 20k guy by cutting programs that subsidize bellow survival wages. How the fuck are they winning this argument, it’s absurd.

  • Sassomatic

    Wait, AFTER you feed your family you only have $400,000 for [high-class hooker blow] jobs?

  • http://www.wonkette.com WordSaladNation

    This guy needs to start a Kickstarter campaign, and by "Kickstarter campaign," I mean "someone should kick him in the ass."

  • WhatTheHolyHeck

    MONEY ISN'T VIRTUE YOU FUCKING GODDAMN MISERABLE SACK OF SHIT YOU WOULDN'T KNOW VIRTUE IF ITS TWO-JOB-HOLDING, BARELY-GETTING-BY, SELF-SACRIFICING-FOR-THE-SAKE-OF-ITS-CHILDREN SELF KICKED YOU IN THE FUCKING TAINT YOU UNWORTHY PILE OF FESTERING EXCREMENT

    [/vent]

    Huh, I don't feel any better. I wonder why.

    • http://www.wonkette.com WordSaladNation

      That rant made my pee-pee get all tingly, for some reason.

    • iburl

      Because they still own our asses?

    • user-of-owls

      Well, I feel just a bit better if that helps. But my ears hurt pretty good.

  • Slim_Pickins

    He needs to take the clue bus to the station and get on the clue train, or maybe just get run over by the clue bus.

    • V572 T-Blow

      Love your avatar.

  • Mojopo

    You know, he's paying a shitload for that dye job. Maybe if he switched to a highlighting cap he could save money.

    Meh, at least it's not old guy red. I guess.

    • poncho_pilot

      i was just noticing he's looking kinda…Trump-like. just a bit.

      • Mojopo

        When Obe is relected, I hope he retains Cornel West's hairdresser. That would make my day.

  • GorzoTheMighty

    He cries class warfare everytime a valet expects a tip for parking his Mercedes. Hang him then give him a fair trial. Extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures.

  • KommunistKitty

    What does a man who spends $200,000 per year "feeding his family" usually eat for dinner? California Condor marinated in the blood of the secret descendants of Czar Nicolas II?

    • http://www.wonkette.com WordSaladNation

      The Wikipedia says that he's married with four children, so there are six people in the house. $200,000 divided by 365 days leaves him with $547.95 to spend per day on food. $547.95 divided by 6 is $91.32 each. Divide that by three meals a day, and you have about $30 per meal per day.

      Amazon.com is selling Rice-a-Roni for about $1.15 per box. Maybe each of his children eats 26 boxes of Rice-a-Roni for dinner every night? WHO KNOWS.

      • poncho_pilot

        he's probably so, sooo poor that he makes his family eat at Subway every night so he can write it off.

      • http://www.wonkette.com TanzbodenKoenig

        4 adult children. He lives with his wife. She must be a motherfucking whale

        • http://www.wonkette.com WordSaladNation

          Okay, so he lives with his wife. That leaves $91.32 for both of them per meal per day. That's more than enough to eat the menu.

      • tessiee

        "Maybe each of his children eats 26 boxes of Rice-a-Roni for dinner every night?"

        I think you're thinking of Mike Hucklebee's kids.

  • flamingpdog

    For fuck's sake, can we Wonketeers pool and cash in our hobo bean stocks and open up a Subway shop where everyone can eat the rich?

    • babyeinstein

      save a crocodile, eat a prep!

  • fuflans

    does louisiana seem to elect an above average number of tools or is it just me?

    • Mojopo

      I live in Illinois – hard for me to say. I have a hair caught in my Blagojevich.

      • fuflans

        me too part of the time.

        but i think our grade A asshole is joe walsh. blago was just corrupt.

        • Mojopo

          I'm still mad they left him out of the Deadbeat Dad round-up on the 10:00 news 2 weeks prior to the mainstream coverage.

    • Geminisunmars

      Hmm. I thought tools were useful.

      • GeorgiaBurning

        They are- ask the Koch family

    • http://www.deathwishcreeps.com/about/ Comrade Wingtard

      Yes, and furthermore it made me very depressed when something as horrible as Subway Sandwiches became successful here. Then I realized my fellow Louisianians were not even capable of being sandwich snobs, which is the one thing we have the right to be.

      But politics? After Huey P Long it was all downhill.

      • ibwilliamsi

        I love Huey. Fucker knew how to bring home the bacon.

    • tessiee

      You mean Louisiana is actually above average at something?

  • zappadoo76

    Actually, class warfare has created many jobs. Just one example: the Great Strike of 1886, which eventually got Americans the 8 hour day. US business had to hire more workers to take up the slack.

    There are lots of other examples, dickwad.

  • OKthennext

    The U.S. Census Bureau says 2010 median income in Louisiana is…

    …$39,443

    Also, my kid watched the video and did the math ($600,000 income and "after I feed my family" $400,000 left) and asked "What is he feeding his family for $200,000?"

    • zappadoo76

      Well, you can't have them eating pet food.

      • anniegetyerfun

        Pets. They eat very expensive pets, like Persian kittens. I mean probably. They are Republicans.

    • Lionel[redacted]Esq

      Hookers and Blow?

      • OKthennext

        It's Louisiana. Definitely hookers.

  • SudsMcKenzie

    He's right, its hard to put food on your family.

  • mavenmaven

    "Class warfare has never created a job" he says. No, but it has overthrown corrupt systems a few times (Ceaușescu is a relevant parallel).

  • Mort_Sinclair

    The sad thing is that the average American, or Amurkin, as the case may actually be, doesn't have the math skills to see that this dude's "math" is fucked up and that there's a difference between business income and personal income. But, shit, he'll find some illiterate, toothless teatard to yell, "Yeah! That's right!" at some Louisiana ditchbug festival. That teatard will probably donate some of his social security to this bozo, too. Fuck 'em all.

    • Sassomatic

      Leave the ditchbugs out of this, if you don't mind.

  • anniegetyerfun

    Every conservative I have ever met with cry a river for this guy. I'm not lying. They will. They weep for the long-suffering rich.

  • grex1949

    So, tell me again how much more this DB will pay if his marginal tax rate is increased under President Obama's plan? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

  • rocktonsam

    needs moar charts and graphs and what not for really stupid people.

    nevermind

  • Beetagger

    He should be relieved of his head.

    • Gleem_McShineys

      My first guillotine will be called "Tax Cut"

  • Lionel[redacted]Esq

    You know who else could barely make ends meet on $400,000 a year, after spending $200,000 on feeding his family?

    • SudsMcKenzie

      Charlie Sheen?

    • SayItWithWookies

      William Howard Taft?

    • SayItWithWookies

      Warren Jeffs?

    • Mojopo

      Redd Foxx?

    • iburl

      That's only slightly more than a third of a ounce of pure gold, per day, for his entire family to eat. You monsters!

    • ApplesauceRobot

      Mike Huckabee?

    • rahelio

      Todd Palin?

    • Negropolis

      Chris "Krispy Kreme" Christie?

      Osama Bin Laden's daddy?

    • tessiee

      Chris Christie?

  • Barrelhse

    This tragic situation is a real tear-jerker, and all too common these days. I'm sending the Phlegmings some of my food stamps.

    • Polythene_Pam

      This is actually a pretty good idea. People should mail food stamps (or a facsimile of them, if you actually get food stamps & need them to actually feed your actual family) to every fat cat who cries that they won't be able to survive if the tax hikes are passed.

  • hagajim

    Ahhh, but Fleming will get the poor, dumb lemming that is 'Merikan society to support him because – we are stupid tools.

  • fletc3her

    I'm thinking, let's try class warfare. You know, just for a few years. See where it gets us.

  • Fox n Fiends

    Job Creators are easier to replace than $10/hour workers.

  • iburl

    Money = Virtue
    Therefore George Soros is a better person than Rush Limbaugh.

  • jus_wonderin

    Does Fleming need a second job???

    • emmelemm

      He has a second job: being a Congresscritter.

  • chimpgod

    The Wall St Journal story referenced in the interview seems to indicate that the $6.3M is income, not revenue. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904

  • http://whatisawatthedevolution.blogspot.com imissopus

    Let's pass the collection plate for the poor guy. I'll throw in two weeks' worth of crud I swept off my kitchen floor this morning.

  • Chichikovovich

    Y'know gang. I think we are being narrow-minded here. If the Republicans want to be known as the party of people who can't make ends meet on (actually well over) $400,000 a year, then it would be wrong of us to prevent them. They should be encouraged to embrace their inner nature and celebrate it.

  • http://hong-kong-actresses.blogspot.com/ donner_froh

    Class warfare would allow Mr. Fucknutz Fleming to find out exactly how valuable he really is. Maybe he can hold down a spot on the sandwich line at one of his Subway shops for minimum wage plus an extra dime an hour.

  • owhatever

    Congressman Fleming,
    Is a GOP lemming,
    Living off the fat of the land.

  • dsgruntled

    I'm telling everyone I know to never eat at SCUMWAY again. Lets see he gets by on only $390,000 !!!

  • Sue4466

    He actually said he nets $600,000 and after "feeding his family," he only has $400,000 left. So that's $200,000/year to feed his family. Even shopping at Whole Foods shouldn't cost him that much. Oh, and there's the $174,000 congressional salary.

    But yet he complains about the federal budget and overspending?

  • Chichikovovich

    Sad news, mes chums. I examined Fleming's financial disclosure forms, and I was stunned to learn that this seemingly upstanding Christian gentleman is lying through his teeth:
    http://clerk.house.gov/public_disc/financial-pdfs

    First Jim Tressel, then this. What has happened to the role models for America's youth?

    • Barrelhse

      Why, that little bitch.

  • snoopyfan2010

    In other countries, Republicans fight for the people not the corporations.

  • LiveToServeYa

    Madame Guillotine could decrease his shortfall. Allons enfants de la Patrie, le jour de gloire est arrive…

  • Gomez571

    If my math is correct, class warefare is asking this asshole to pay $4,500 more in taxes. (3% of $400,000 – $250,000)

  • x111e7thst

    John? Come here. I need to explain a thing to you. Making you pay your fair share of taxes is just good policy, and pretty good politics too. It's not class warfare till we hang you from a streetlight. By your feet.

    • tessiee

      John? Come here. I need to explain a thing to you.

      SLAPPITTY SLAP SLAP SLAP!!!

  • Terry

    This bozo is from the fourth district in Louisiana, in which Shreveport is the only highly populated area…if you can even call it that. His district is full of people for whom $400,000 is years and years worth of salary. His opponent in the next election should run this clip on tv over and over.

    • tessiee

      "His opponent in the next election should run this clip on tv over and over."

      And yet, somehow, I have a feeling that he or she won't.

  • DemonicRage

    I will not be able to sleep tonight, playing and replaying in my mind the fact that with $400,000, this man would have so much difficulty feeding his family. DOES HE REALIZE THAT 500,000 ARE FACING IMMINENT STARVATION IN SOMALIA WHEN HE SAYS THAT????????

  • http://wonkette.com/ starfanglednut

    Ok let's see. As a disabled person, I get $143/month in food stamps.

    *scribble, scribble, scribble (yes, asshole, disabled people can do math)

    Equals $1,716 per year. Supposing there were 6 of me, that'd be $10,296. Oh, but I don't pay any income tax! And he only has $200,000 to feed himself, his wife, and his four kids! And he's so much more virtuous than me, as clearly indicated by his wealth! That poor guy, I feel so sorry for him. They should def cut my foodstamps. It's only fair.

  • Chichikovovich

    maudit'ostie, the more I learn about this weasel the more I detest him. He has four children, the youngest of them is 21/22 years old, the oldest is over 30. Perhaps these layabouts are still being "fed" by Daddy, but if so, the fact that they can't get off their asses to provide for themselves should not be taken as a basis for national tax policy. And if they do in fact have real jobs and independent lives, then Mr. John Calvin Fleming is slinging some serious merde de taureau.

    "Feed my family" indeed.

  • BTWBFDIMHO

    He's afraid of warfare but I'm sure he denies union rights to his workers, while he is a member of the local Chamber of Commerce and who knows how many lobbies.
    I miss Marx, Engels & Brothers, now.

  • comrad_darkness

    400k out of 6.3, eh? Let me guess, 2 mil of it a year goes into a annuity life insurance scam policy that he can borrow from at 0% interest without paying any tax nor ever paying any of it back.

  • Polythene_Pam

    http://www.facebook.com/RepJohnFleming

    He's apparently deleting comments that are critical of him from his facebook wall post re: this story.

    Not only is he poor, now we're hurting his feelings!

  • Negropolis

    No snark, but this is the central belief of conservative, Evangelical, American Christianity. That is that having wealth, in and of itself, is a virtue, and that being poor is a curse or moral failing. It is easily one of the most disgusting, vile corruptions of Biblical teachings you'll ever find, and it is probably one of the most uniquely American aspects of the modern faith in this country.

    Shameless, absolutely shameless. Karma, come on back around, and be quick about it, this time.

    Blessed are the job creators, for they shall….

    • horsedreamer_1

      Go to Hell?

      Hahaha. There is no Hell, and these people know it. They preach eternal reward in Heaven to the Poors, all the while knowing the riches of the Earth are all there is. And they have them.

      • Negropolis

        They preach eternal reward in Heaven to the Poors

        No they don't; they don't even do that, anymore. Liberal evangelicals preach that (and, it's actually in the Bible). The conservative evangelicals are all about the "prosperity gospel" these days that preaches that the accumulation of material wealth on earth is next to godliness (the complete opposite of what Jesus actually taught in the Bible). It's mind boggling the degree to which they get away with this perversion.

  • salt_bagel

    This tard is so clueless that he really thinks he holds the moral high ground here. He has himself hypnotized into thinking he's right, because if any real compassion entered his little infant brain, it'd pop from the cognitive dissonance.

    I'm gonna turn off the snark for a second and say that EVERYONE NEEDS TO SPREAD THIS VIDEO, NOW. Putting a face on the selfishness needs to happen. It's stuff like this that will open the public's eyes and see these pricks at face value.

  • Naked_Bunny

    The $400,000 take-home pay is even more impressive when you notice that he only works part time at best.

  • babyeinstein

    "You do understand that, don't you? ….Don't you? Jesus Christ, DON'T YOU???"

  • http://yakkingmelmoth.blogspot.com/ Porter Melmoth

    Anyone who even mentions class warfare is indeed waging class warfare. With the 'upper class', wagons are always pre-circled.

  • ttommyunger

    Multi-Millionaire Rep. John Fleming: Definitely a Finalist in the 2011 "Most Out-of-Touch Asshole in the Country" competition.

  • http://howtosavetheworld.ca/ BZ1

    he spends $200,000 a year to feed his family? ooh sure …

  • hellbabe

    expenses? what about after taxes? they're two totally different things. it'd be great if he had $400,000 after taxes. then, the taxes would be a little closer to just about right

  • tessiee

    "Barack Obama’s proposal to raise taxes on the super-rich"

    You guys, I found this spine; anyone know who it belongs to?

  • horsedreamer_1

    In Wisconsin, we have taken to calling that Tonette Deafness.

  • Jukesgrrl

    That's GREAT!