• May 27, 2012

Tennessee Muslims Can Keep Practicing Religion, For Now

by Blair Burke  10:31 pm August 31, 2011

“We’ll stop you next time, Muslim Americans!” is what wingnuts in Tennessee are saying right now, because in a brave act of reason, a Rutherford County judge decided that despite the constant nagging of crazy people with an interesting perspective on America’s freedoms, he would like to continue to provide Muslims with religious freedom.

A Rutherford County judge decided to uphold his earlier decision that the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro has a right, by law, to build a bigger place of worship.

“Those who are adherents to Islam are entitled to pursue their worship in the United States just as are those who are adherents to more universally established faiths (in our community),” ruled Chancellor Robert Corlew III.

Opponents of the mosque had asked Corlew to reconsider the decision he made in May, which was that the 17 plaintiffs suing Rutherford County government can only challenge whether an open meeting violation occurred over the mosque’s approval.

Hooray for that, but oh, of course:

Corlew’s latest ruling reiterated that Islam is a religion. Brandon disagreed with that.

“Chancellor Corlew seems to go on and on that it’s been decided that Islam is a religion, and we take issue with that,” Brandon said. “There’s no proof in this case that Islam is a religion. There is no case law or code that Islam is a religion.”

Ah, that is more like it. [Tennessean]

{ 118 comments }

OzoneTom August 31, 2011 at 10:36 pm

Sure they can practice religion.

As long as it is Christianity.

arihaya August 31, 2011 at 11:27 pm

it reminds me to old Colbert joke:

"Everyone has the right to their own religion — be you Hindu, Jewish, or Muslim, I believe there are infinite paths to accepting Jesus Christ as your personal savior..'

Negropolis September 1, 2011 at 1:13 am

And so long as it's Southern Baptistry or Methodism.

GhostBuggy September 1, 2011 at 11:39 am

I have this pal that's really Catholic and really conservative. I've tried to explain to him that, if the religious right in this country could really get what it wants, he and his fellow papists would be in the camps with the rest of us godless heathens. He won't listen.

MichelesPantalones August 31, 2011 at 10:37 pm

Duh, WUT? WTF does this birdbrain mean, "Islam is not a religion"? So, exactly what IS it then? Chopped LIVER?

nounverb911 August 31, 2011 at 10:56 pm

Do they schmaltz in their chopped liver? If so, then yes.

MichelesPantalones August 31, 2011 at 10:58 pm

Mein kind, it's not chopped liver if you don't schmaltz it!

littlebigdaddy August 31, 2011 at 11:44 pm

I always schmaltz in mine, but then I have had that problem for years.

MichelesPantalones August 31, 2011 at 11:58 pm

Chicken.

finallyhappy September 1, 2011 at 6:40 am

gribnes?? It isn't real chopped liver without the gribnes-the schmaltz w/o gribnes willl not cause your arteries to immediately clog

MichelesPantalones September 1, 2011 at 11:52 am

Alright, awreddy, gribenes! I love that stuff, it's highly addictive, but srsly. Just because there's onions in it doesn't mean your arteries aren't totalling up the insults.

arihaya September 1, 2011 at 12:33 am

well chopped liver maybe, since whatever kosher is likely halal

MichelesPantalones September 1, 2011 at 12:38 am

Betul.

tcaalaw September 1, 2011 at 10:15 am

WTF does this birdbrain mean, "Islam is not a religion"?

A large contingent of wingnuts have decided that Islam is a "political philosophy" rather than a religion, so the First Amendment allegedly wouldn't apply to it. Of course, this view suffers from two major problems: (a) the concepts of "religion" and "political philosophy" aren't exclusive, and (b) advocacy of even a political philosophy that is completely devoid of any religious component is also protected by the First Amendment.

MichelesPantalones September 1, 2011 at 12:13 pm

They're not getting any smarter, are they?

Chet Kincaid September 1, 2011 at 1:47 pm

Their argument is undermined by their brethren who are determined to enforce Christianity as a political philosophy.

Chet Kincaid September 1, 2011 at 10:50 am

Has "Islam" applied for a Tennessee Religion License, gone through the inspections and paid the annual fee?

MichelesPantalones September 1, 2011 at 12:13 pm

Sigh.

SayItWithWookies August 31, 2011 at 10:43 pm

Oh grerat — what's gonna happen to this country if everyone's allowed to practice the religion of their choice?

Come here a minute September 1, 2011 at 9:43 am

Hitler!

grandinquisitor September 1, 2011 at 10:46 am

Worse, Pat Robertson.

Barb August 31, 2011 at 10:43 pm

Muslims in Tennessee?
Assalam Alaiykum ya'll

ManchuCandidate August 31, 2011 at 10:45 pm

Seriously… next you'll be telling me that there are brown people who live in the midwest

SayItWithWookies August 31, 2011 at 10:59 pm

The hardest part about being a Tennessee Muslim? Climbing down from the deer stand five times a day to pray.

littlebigdaddy August 31, 2011 at 11:43 pm

I imagine finding halal bbq is not that easy either.

chascates September 1, 2011 at 12:15 am

Plus the lack of country songs sang in Arabic.

bagofmice September 1, 2011 at 12:28 am

Depends on the country.

Negropolis September 1, 2011 at 1:16 am

You want to know the hardest part of being a Muslim in Oklahoma? Toby Keith.

MittsHairHelmet August 31, 2011 at 10:45 pm

This activist judge clearly doesn't understand the founders' intent.

bagofmice September 1, 2011 at 12:32 am

They say Jefferson found 'er in tent, along with a few other things.

(ok, that was bad)

Lascauxcaveman September 1, 2011 at 11:23 am

That whole Revolutionary War Army camp experience? That was intense.

nounverb911 August 31, 2011 at 10:49 pm

Teabaggers demand a new amendment banning freedom of religion (except theirs) in 3…2…

MichelesPantalones August 31, 2011 at 10:59 pm

All three of them.

SorosBot September 1, 2011 at 12:36 am

Three? There's the true religion, then varying degrees; heretical non-Baptist Protestants, Papists, then Jews and other heathens.

MichelesPantalones September 1, 2011 at 12:40 am

Er, no. I was referring to the three, as in, remaining Teabaggers; their popularity is dropping like a stone, and attendance and identification with them is dropping off accordingly. At least among the sane, and nonpoliticians.

Chet Kincaid September 1, 2011 at 10:52 am

But organized, "official" teabagism and tea bag politicians will be propped up by the monied interests, so long as they can control them.

finallyhappy September 1, 2011 at 6:42 am

So before the invention of race as a way to divide and demean people, there were the Christians- I guess only Catholics at that time and then the heathens(Jews &Muslims &Hindus- oh, my!)

bagofmice September 1, 2011 at 12:35 am

One amendment to ban polytheism, and in the constitution bind them.

tcaalaw September 1, 2011 at 10:36 am

Actually, some of them have already proposed a constitutional amendment that would make an exception to the First Amendment to allow Islam to be banned: http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/op-ed/propos...

Swampgas_Man September 1, 2011 at 3:37 pm

My browser refused to open that link. Good going, Google Chrome.

SexySmurf August 31, 2011 at 10:52 pm

Theres no proof in this case that Islam is a religion. There is no case law or code that Islam is a religion.

According to the IRS it is.

MichelesPantalones August 31, 2011 at 11:00 pm

You know, according to, I don't know, just about every dictionary, encyclopedia, religious authority, and what-all, it is. I mean, these people are mind-numbingly dumb.

bagofmice September 1, 2011 at 12:35 am

So I guess you don't gotta have faith…

poncho_pilot September 1, 2011 at 12:55 am

not according to the Book Of Wham George Michael.

Negropolis September 1, 2011 at 1:20 am

And, well, nearly 2,000 years of religious tradition and it's 1.5 billion adherents. You know, just that. lol

savethispatient September 1, 2011 at 2:47 am

Well, according to the teabaggers' bible, Islam is merely a series of laws meant to bring down the American way of life…. and so is the IRS.

chicken_thief September 1, 2011 at 8:57 am

But the IRS is unconstitutional, so it don't count.

ph7 September 1, 2011 at 11:18 am

"Presidents as far back as Lincoln and Jefferson, and as recent as President George W. Bush, have publicly recognized Islam as one of the world's largest religions," U.S. Attorney Jerry Martin stated in a press conference on Monday.

"The federal government cited Thomas Jefferson in their press conference, and he owned slaves," Brandon asserted to Commissioner Gary Farley. "Is that who they want to cite as an authority?" .

A wingnut telling us that we can ignore the constitutional principles of any Founding Father who owned slaves? Time to check if my cat is sleeping with my dog.

GunToting[Redacted] September 2, 2011 at 4:27 pm

It's a perfect Möbius strip of wingnuttery.

Mahousu August 31, 2011 at 10:53 pm

"There is no case law or code that Islam is a religion.”

I don't know; seems like plenty of coded language is used to refer to Muslims.

DoktorThompson August 31, 2011 at 10:54 pm

The judge's face is priceless. "I'm surrounded by morons."

MissusBarry August 31, 2011 at 11:04 pm

I was making the same face. Of all the ret@rded crap of the haters of all things not white bread and jeebus, that quote at the end left me dumbstruck.

HeadsIWin September 1, 2011 at 12:38 pm

those be morans, boy.

ifthethunderdontgetya August 31, 2011 at 10:55 pm

In other news:

Obama bows to Boehner; jobs speech will be Sept. 8

In a retreat after an hours-long test of wills Wednesday, President Barack Obama agreed to deliver an address on jobs and the economy to a joint session of Congress on Sept. 8, yielding to House Speaker John Boehner, who had balked at Obama's request for a Sept. 7 speech.

You could knock me over with a feather.
~

nounverb911 August 31, 2011 at 10:57 pm

Maybe Bachmannn will lend Obama her titanium backbone one of these days.

SorosBot September 1, 2011 at 12:33 am

And so he's fucking with football instead; would have been better to move it up a day. Although it probably is a good idea; the more people see the Republican debates, the better his reelection chances become.

Radiotherapy® September 1, 2011 at 1:18 am

Now Barry will be available join us in the liveblogging of the clown car race?

Radiotherapy® September 1, 2011 at 12:33 am

You are looking at this the wrong way. Chancellor Obama is so strong and sturdy that he will go up against the NFL opener. Amirite? Right? Maybe? C'mon, he would never back down, cave or be morally weak?!? Please god this has to be the answer. ;..(

LetUsBray September 1, 2011 at 12:36 am

Man, I would not have guessed on election day '08 that the headline I'd grow most sick of would be:

"President Kneels Before Weepy, Orange Zod"

SudsMcKenzie August 31, 2011 at 11:00 pm

I'm pretty sure Brandon is right, I think "Islam" was that terrible movie with Dustin Hoffman and Warren Beatty.

ManchuCandidate August 31, 2011 at 11:01 pm

It wasn't all that long ago when the RC Church thought the various strains of the protestant church weren't a real religion.

Note to Botards: the only real religion of US America is money.

DoktorThompson August 31, 2011 at 11:33 pm

And the only real sin in US America is not having money.

Negropolis September 1, 2011 at 1:37 am

And to this day many Evangelical denominations don't think Roman Catholics are Christians, and America has a long history until very recently of oppressing Catholics. So, yeah. I wonder when Catholics will get a slur like "papist" to use on their very own?

littlebigdaddy August 31, 2011 at 11:07 pm

Jeez, every Super 8 and Motel 6 in Rutherford County will close down if they kick out the Mooselimbs.

arihaya August 31, 2011 at 11:24 pm

"“There’s no proof in this case that Islam is a religion"

and there is no prove that Mr Brandon is sane.

Negropolis September 1, 2011 at 1:39 am

There is also no proof that Mr. Brandon isn't a Tennessee goat-fucker. 'Cause, as you know, it would be irresponsible not to speculate.

BarackMyWorld August 31, 2011 at 11:25 pm

Islam isn't a religion like this lawsuit isn't moronic.

AlterNewt August 31, 2011 at 11:30 pm

“There’s no proof in this case that Islam is a religion. There is no case law or code that Islam is a religion.”

I…just… I …can't…I…arrrrrggghhhh…

bagofmice September 1, 2011 at 12:39 am

You'll just have to take it on faith.

chicken_thief September 1, 2011 at 9:01 am

I'm sure Jeebs leaked the info to someone… Michele possibly? Or Rick Perry – he and the Lawd seem really tight these days.

DashboardBuddha September 1, 2011 at 9:23 am

Well done.

DashboardBuddha September 1, 2011 at 9:25 am

I know, right? The jaw engages, but the words don't come out. The stupidity is breathtaking.

AlterNewt September 1, 2011 at 2:27 pm

These people are impossible to satirize.

(Thanks, BTW)

SudsMcKenzie August 31, 2011 at 11:30 pm

Hey, its not like these "Islam" people wrote down any "religious" things, in say a book or anything.

AlterNewt September 1, 2011 at 2:07 am

Only in that un-Amerkin funny-writin'.

DerrickWildcat August 31, 2011 at 11:31 pm

Probably a Catholic or Mormon Judge. They ain't Christians either.

FlownOver August 31, 2011 at 11:32 pm

Time for the Pastafarians to draw up plans and start raising funds for construction of the Crystal Colander.

finallyhappy September 1, 2011 at 6:44 am

Ramen, Brother, Ramen. May you and yours be touched by her Noodly Appendage!

GunToting[Redacted] September 2, 2011 at 4:29 pm

Pastify!

glamourdammerung August 31, 2011 at 11:32 pm

"There is no case law or code that Islam is a religion.”

Spoken like a true advocate of "small government and personal freedom".

Guppy06 August 31, 2011 at 11:36 pm

Islam hasn't been established as a religion.

bagofmice September 1, 2011 at 12:42 am

Well, that makes Sharia kind of a silly concern.

DerrickWildcat August 31, 2011 at 11:38 pm

As an agnostic, I feel it's my job to protect the thousands of denominations of Christians from strangling each other in the streets by keeping any of them from getting a foot in the door of the Government.

chascates August 31, 2011 at 11:43 pm

What 'Brandon' meant obviously is that there is no proof that Mohammed existed or that there is a long tradition of Islam, unlike the incontrovertible proof of the existence of our Blessed Savior, who was born on December 25th, year 0, and was visited by three wise asses or whatever.

Plus, Jesus was a handsome, yet soulful-looking white man with blue eyes. Not like those camel jockeys.

SorosBot September 1, 2011 at 12:22 am

Hey now, we all know the Jesus story is true, because a collection of stories written decades after the fact and edited by the rulers of Rome centuries later say so. Ignore the complete lack of actual corroborating documentation of his existence until over a generation after he was supposed to have died.

not that Dewey September 1, 2011 at 8:56 am

We also know that there was no year 0. If you'll recall, we had to go through that Millenium bullshit for like three years in a row because Matt Lauer, Harry Smith and George Stephanopoulos's respective morning shows could not agree on when centuries or millenia begin or end.

PubOption September 1, 2011 at 9:17 am

Pol pot made sure there was a year zero.

BaldarTFlagass September 1, 2011 at 9:24 am

And Ray Milland and Frankie Avalon panicked therein.

pinkocommi August 31, 2011 at 11:53 pm

“There’s no proof in this case that Islam is a religion. There is no case law or code that Islam is a religion.”

Right-wing idiocy on the other hand…. an abundance of proof that it is a religion. Unfortunately.

zhubajie September 1, 2011 at 12:04 am

Are Southern Baptists are real religion?

SorosBot September 1, 2011 at 12:18 am

OK, now this is completely O/T, but why the fuck is Cottonelle running ads trying to convince us that it's somehow rude to store toilet paper the way everybody does and always has, but instead we need to keep it covered in some stupid cozy thing?

poncho_pilot September 1, 2011 at 1:04 am

to make money off of our insecurities. in related news, my wife told me she saw a woman who was covering up her maxi-pads with an ad paper until she got to the register at Walgreens this morning.

finallyhappy September 1, 2011 at 6:47 am

Hey, are you dissing the Crocheted and Knitted Poodles everyone I knew had on the back of the toilet??? maybe you just didn't know that strangely cylindrical body hid a roll of TP?

Mumbletypeg September 1, 2011 at 9:05 am

Seriously. Crocheted "skirts" in pastel colors with a half-sawn-off Barbie® knockoff inserted in top like a hollowed b-day cake tier whose pop-out bimbo got stuck mid-"Surprise…"

DahBoner September 1, 2011 at 12:44 am

To the moon, Akbar!

Negropolis September 1, 2011 at 12:56 am

Needz moar Scopes Monkey Trial.

Seriously, though, I feel a bit defeated that this even had to be reaffirmed. We don't have a cut-copy-paste Constitution. You can't just ignore or take out the parts that you don't like.

BarackMyWorld September 1, 2011 at 1:23 am

Does "pretend it means something else entirely" count?

Radiotherapy® September 1, 2011 at 2:13 am

“There’s no proof in this case that evolution is a theory."

poncho_pilot September 1, 2011 at 12:59 am

i wish any of this nonsense surprised me but i feel like i've seen it so many times before…
http://www.freedomforum.org/templates/document.as...

"If other groups want to pray that way, let them put their Buddhas or their wooden statues up and there and pray to their dead gods."

poorgradstudent September 1, 2011 at 1:53 am

“There’s no proof in this case that Islam is a religion. There is no case law or code that Islam is a religion.”

It's been all downhill since conservatives discovered postmodernism.

FlipOffResearch September 1, 2011 at 2:08 am

Wasn't there a time in this country when you could be involuntarily committed to an insane asylum? I'm not saying those days were better. But maybe there was more incentive to not say crazy shit.

ttommyunger September 1, 2011 at 6:10 am

"There is also nothing in the Statute Books about Gravity, either" he expounded authoritatively, "I am being held on Earth by my own iron will alone!" With that, he put on his tinfoil hat, touched his nose with his left index finger and left the premises.

mavenmaven September 1, 2011 at 6:27 am

Well, we all know how Jesus wrassled with alligators and spoke in tongues, so we know that that's a legitimate religion.

Come here a minute September 1, 2011 at 6:28 am

The judge did not go as far as permitting Islam to be practiced during a Republican debate, that would have been unconstitutional.

Redhead September 1, 2011 at 7:15 am

“Chancellor Corlew seems to go on and on that it’s been decided that Islam is a religion, and we take issue with that,” Brandon said. “There’s no proof in this case that Islam is a religion. There is no case law or code that Islam is a religion.”

Personally, there are several "churches" that claim to be "Christian" around here, but I feel that there's no proof that they're Christian, or that their form of Christianity is a religion (never proven! though I'm pretty sure they're cults). So yeah, down with the building and your sharia law, move away from me, all that.

BaldarTFlagass September 1, 2011 at 8:49 am

When I was in the Navy, I invented my own religion in the hopes of getting something besides fish served on the messdecks on Fridays (the Catholic Filipino messcooks who made the menu apparently had not been informed of Vatican II).
It was the Holy Order of the Golden Arches, and our dietary requirements were cheeseburgers on Fridays.

Hail Ronald
Full of Mayo
The Big Mac is with me
Blessed are the holy McFries
Blessed is the fruit of the Hot Apple Pies.
Mayor McCheese
Keeper of the Secret Sauce
Keep warm our dinners
Now and until the hour of the Thick Frosty Shakes.
Mm-mmm.

chicken_thief September 1, 2011 at 9:03 am

I don't know how old Corlew is or the state of his health, but I wish I was the beneficiary of his life insurance. I could use a windfall here in the near future….

friendlyskies September 1, 2011 at 10:06 am

Well, at least they have something to blame for this season's predictably crap performance from the Vols. "Tennessee turned it's [sic] back on Jesus, and Jesus turned His back on UT. REPENT."

Troglodeity September 1, 2011 at 12:11 pm

"Theres no proof in this case that Christianity is a religion. There is no case law or code that Christianity is a religion." – The Pharisees' opening statement to Pontius Pilate

donner_froh September 1, 2011 at 12:27 pm

From the look on the face of Chancellor Robert Corlew III, he is about five seconds from asking the plaintiff's counsel, "Son, you did go to law school, didn't you?'

SilverTsunami September 1, 2011 at 2:10 pm

Well, Brandon has a point, because apparently only a few fashion designers in Paris and New York are Muslin and. . . oh, wait, if you spell it correctly, it looks like about 1.6 billion people are Muslims. Only about 23% of the world's population, then, not really a universally recognized faith.

LowProfileinGA September 1, 2011 at 3:45 pm

Muslims won a similar struggle in Lilburn GA. City Council caved this week; the Justice Dept. has now filed a complaint against the city for violation of the "Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act of 2000".
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/203633/40/LIL...

But Hindus seem to be OK – for now at least. An incredibly beautiful Hindu temple stands only a few miles away.

"The BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir Atlanta is the sixth BAPS traditional Hindu stone temple built outside of India. It is also the largest Hindu temple of its kind outside of India. It is currently open to the public. The 32000 sqft temple, officially called the Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, sits on 30 acre. With hand-carved stone spires that tower 75 ft, it is the tallest building in Lilburn, Georgia"
http://www.swaminarayan.org/globalnetwork/america...

bagofmice September 1, 2011 at 12:26 am

Some people might have a beef with that.

MichelesPantalones September 1, 2011 at 12:29 am

That's pretty foul.

Radiotherapy® September 1, 2011 at 1:32 am

What pigs!?!!

MichelesPantalones September 1, 2011 at 1:35 am

You sused them out.

not that Dewey September 1, 2011 at 10:12 am

That looks awesome.

MichelesPantalones September 1, 2011 at 12:15 pm

They didn't do so good at controlling them during the debt debate. And Hopey has figured out how to split them like kindling. I look forward to their coming demise as a movement.

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