And the Wicked were cast into the Lake of Fire (Tar Sands).The difference between the environmental policies of Barack Obama and George W. Bush? You expected it to be bad with Bush Jr. Today, the White House is surrounded with people protesting the Keystone XL Tar Sands Pipeline. Here’s how Rep. Henry Waxman described it: “This pipeline is a multi-billion dollar investment to expand our reliance on the dirtiest source of transportation fuel currently available.” He was one of 50 in Congress to officially protest to Hillary Clinton, who as secretary of state has jurisdiction over this dirty nightmare being extended from Canada’s filthy earth-raping tar sands extraction pits to the American Midwest. Says the Politico just now: “The Obama administration is working overtime to fight the perception that it’s dissing green groups and rubber-stamping a controversial 1,700-mile oil pipeline.” Well that sounds about right for Obama, working at the last minute on the perception of something rather than its reality.

Burning fossil fuel is the dirtiest form of energy, and mining Tar Sands for oil is the dirtiest, most expensive and most environmentally devastating form of fossil fuel extraction. When you’re strip mining and digging up thousands of square miles of prairie and then using immense amounts of fossil fuel energy to process and chemically treat the bitumen that’s just a small part of the overall soil and mineral and organic material (life) you’re destroying to convert this “tar” into liquid petroleum, you’re also using a tremendous amount of fresh water and pumping insane amounts of greenhouse gases into the Earth’s atmosphere before the petroleum is ever burned. By the time “tar sands” make it to your gas tank and fart out the tailpipe into the sky, forever, this form of oil has produced 45% more greenhouse gases than the conventional stuff.

It’s as if the BP Gulf of Mexico disaster wasn’t an accident, but an integral part of the plan.

Also, surprise, the promised thousands of construction jobs are actually just a handful of jobs, and as usual all the immense profit from extracting this fossil fuel from public land (using government subsidies, of course, and Middle Eastern imported oil paid for in the lives of American soldiers) goes to a giant energy corporation. Anyway, Go Obama! [Treehugger/Politico/Tar Sands Action]

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  • nounverb911

    "Republican Barack Obama Says Filthy Tar Sands Pipeline Is Great"
    He's also abandoning the island peoples he's been visiting and going back to the land of make believe with Eric C. and Irene H.

  • genxr

    We are doomed.

    That is all.

    • SorosBot

      Yeah, but we've known that for quite some time. Not done anything about it, but we can't say we didn't see it coming.

      • DahBoner


  • SorosBot

    And here I though Canada was better than us with this environment thing.

    • Guppy06

      It's all relative.

    • Plus I think they have their own Fox News to confuse their idiots.

    • There are just fewer people up there. And the ones that are around are not as environmentally enlightened as you'd think. For instance: look up Victoria's history of dumping its raw sewage into the Puget Sound.

    • Fox n Fiends

      Conservative Steve Harper runs the show now. Waste Baby Waste.

    • OneDollarJuana

      They are cutting their forests at a very alarming rate, too. I think it's because most Canadians don't live anywhere near where the massive destruction is taking place, and they are complacent in feeling that there will always be enough nature left.

    • Lascauxcaveman

      Alberta oilmen make Texas oilmen look thoughtful and restrained, by comparison.

      • the_problem_child

        Alberta oilmen are mostly Texas oilmen. The roughnecks are from Newfoundland and the Maritimes though.

    • Grief_Lessons

      As a Canadian I can confirm that we're terrible at the environmental thing. Our whole economy is based on selling the natural commodities (trees, water, oil, etc) that happen to litter our extremely large and relatively unpopulated country.

      We're the number one exporter of asbestos in the world. ASBESTOS. Can you believe that shit?

    • V572 T-Blow

      Some buddies of mine who do environmental consulting for the US military went up to Canada to talk to them about how to reduce the impact of their military training. The Canuckistani Defense Forces were kind of amazed to find that chewing up the land with tracked vehicles results in water pollution. They'd even have been okay with that, but then they found out it might hurt the fishing. Oh no!

    • There is Good Canada and then there is Bad Canada. And there is a lot of In-Between Canada. This is Bad – very Bad Canada.

    • Negropolis

      Someone said it above, but Canadians are so closely backed near the American border, that their raping of the earth is just far enough removed as for them to not really know what's going on outside the urban areas. It's out of sight and out of mind.

  • Bonzos_Bed_Time

    3. Profit!

  • nounverb911

    Have the Kochs got Barry under their spell too?

    • Papa_Uniform

      No, but they are definitely on his dance card.

    • An_Outhouse

      The fact that the Kochs are actively funding the decimation of the Democratic Party should be reason enough to ban this thing.

  • Amo_of_Bogio

    As a proud-ish Canoodler, let me apologize for making USmurrica use our filthy oil, for freedumb.

  • peaceocrap

    It'd be nice to see Obama cave to the majority in the center just once, rather than always caving to the plutocrats.

    • Guppy06

      The plutocrats control more money than the majority.

  • SayItWithWookies

    Sure it's environmentally horrible, ridiculously expensive and actually worse than regular crude — but it's the Canadians who are destroying their pristine subarctic environment — we're just transporting it to a terminal. It's like being the getaway driver in a bank robbery, see — we're totally not responsible. Those getaway drivers have it made.

    • fuflans

      are you blaming canada?

      • Lionel[redacted]Esq

        Is there any other reason we let them exist as an independent country?

        • flamingpdog

          Build the OTHER dang fence!

      • Fuck yeah!

      • SayItWithWookies

        Don't worry — they're so polite, they won't even say they mind.

  • BornInATrailer

    Nature's Santorum.

    • Bambi's minute lube.

    • God's dinglePerrys.


      I dunno, i'm not an expert in the nature vs. nurture debate.

  • freakishlywrong

    Well, you can't make everybody happy. Might as well make sure the 26% of the righttards, the Cock Bros., and the very people who are not only against you, but want to destroy you, are happy and raking in the $$$.

  • mourningnmerica

    Barry, don't you get it? You are black. It doesn't matter what you do. They're never going to like you. Jesus, stop pandering.

  • BornInATrailer

    Doug Lamborn just referred to this issue as a tar sand baby.

  • Sue4466

    I got a fundraising call last night from Obama 2012. I told the certainly nice lady on the phone that I don't donate to Republicans. If he starts governing as a Democrat EVER, then I might, but until then. Nope. Might not be anyone else to vote for but I sure as shit ain't giving him money.

    • Haha that's exactly what I told the nice fundraising lady, who sounded about 22 years old and already exhausted from hearing variations on this theme a hundred times an hour …..

      • Radiotherapy┬«

        For some reason they never respond via e-mail either when I send them similar sentiments.

      • glamourdammerung

        Add me to the list of folks that have told them the same thing.

      • Sue4466

        Maybe we spoke to the same person. She seemed exhausted. Telling me that I was "just the sort of person the campaign needed to be involved." I told her that was obviously not true given Obama's treatment of people like me. You know supposedly his "base" that he's sold out over and over again to appease rightwing nutjobs and to further move the country rightward by giving Democratic cover to GOP policies.

        It's Bill Clinton all over again, but further over to the right. The left might have fought harder against IRAIRA, AEDPA, welfare reform, etc. if they'd been proposed by a Republican. But they had to fall into party line for a Democratic president pushing Republican policies.

        Democrats need to stop feeling guilty about getting elected. It's one thing for the GOP to treat them as if they have no legitimacy in governance, it's another thing entirely for them to do act that way.

        • Negropolis

          Democrats need to stop feeling guilty about getting elected.

          Truer words were never spoken. They also have to stop acting like it's an accident, or that their constituents are more conservative than they are.

          • Sue4466

            After the 2008 election, when the Dems took control of the White House and both houses of Congress, the GOP responded to everything they proposed as being "against the will of the American People ™." And so the Dems act like they didn't just win, and punk out on fighting for their policies.

            Then the GOP wins one chamber of Congress in 2010, and the GOP claims a mandate to undo everything the Dems managed to actually do. For their part, the Dems and Obama fell all over themselves talking about shellackings and needing to "move to the center." They just overlook that any shift to the center would be a move to the LEFT.

            I'm now cynical enough to think the whole thing is political theatre to delude the masses that at least one party gives a fuck. At the end of the day, they all pat each other on the back for another con job well done.

    • fuflans

      as i don't have a job it's a moot point.

    • What's more, I won't EVER give to ANYBODY who uses the money just to put Jerry Bruckheimer-produced ads on color television with threatening tinkling piano music.

  • hagajim

    I can't believe it took up to 12 comments before I saw a tar baby reference…..just pump that tar baby!!!

    • baconzgood

      I would have posted on but I couldn't remember the douche bag's name.

    • flamingpdog

      I would have posted it myself, but I still have a job, and sometimes I have to take "work breaks" from reading Wonkette to actually perform it.

      The "douch bag" is from my state, although fortunately not my district.

  • I don't get why they don't just refine the fucking shit in fucking Canada. Guess that's why I'm not President.

    • SexySmurf

      If they refined it in Canada then America would miss out on a chance to have a Deep Water Horizon-esque oil spill all over our valuable Midwestern farmland.

  • OkieDokieDog

    I've signed very petition that I've come across to PROTEST this pipeline. I don't want that damn thing coming through my state on its way to Texas. But I'm sure Jebus Inhofe and Gov Mattress Mary are all for it, so they'll be telling the Xtains here what a wonderful boon to the economy it will be.

    NO NUKES! And NO FUCKING TAR SANDS KeystoneXL pipeline!

  • We can always count on Ken to give us something uplifting for the weekend.

    • There are hundreds of people (including Van Jones!) who are melting outside the White House (and getting arrested by the dozens) while everybody in the News Media utterly ignores this because there's a rain storm approaching. Least I can do is make a dumb post on a blog!

      • OkieDokieDog

        Canadians are protesting & getting arrested. Ottawa has a protest movement going on too. American MSM won't care until a drunken Lindsay Lohan drives through the crowd and kills a few.

        • fuflans

          we could see if she's up for some community service…

      • Ok, I'll give you that. Just hoping for little more levity. Maybe some jokes about Waxman's amazing mustache?

      • glamourdammerung

        Hundreds of people will never be as press-worthy as ten teatards screaming about Obama taking away their fishing/guns/wives/etc.

    • flamingpdog

      I'm still waiting for Benincasa to give us something "uplifting" for the weekend!

      • widestanceshakedown

        I know I'd feel alot better going into the weekend if someone would call me a jizz-guzzling libtard.

        • If not a leftist maggot, a whoremonkey or my personal favorite, an offer to " to shit on your bed and blame it on your dead dog."

    • Didn't you hear? Most of today's media is in the Unholy Land, covering Glenn Beck's commanding the sun to stand still until his people are released from bondage by the evil imperialist Palestinians.

  • Tar baby jokes in 3, 2, 1 ???

    • too slow olde joe [see comment # 12 and more above]

  • Maybe it wasn't enough to have Margot Kidder merely show up on the White House lawn for protest. Maybe it's time to actually sick a thrice-divorced character actress turned activist rebounding from a host of mental afflictions
    on the President outright.. What better way to impress upon him "we're not…. kidding"?

  • Crank_Tango

    Dissing? Really?

    • SexySmurf

      Get it, cause he's black. Obama was all like, "Yo mama's hairy armpits smell like tar sands. Oh snap, boyeee!"

    • flamingpdog

      I think "dissing" is the new shorthand for "infiltrating and subverting". I'll have to ask my kidz.

  • OneYieldRegular

    Perhaps we should offer Canada the gift of a gigantic fake mastodon. Then, when it's mired in the tar sands like that one in the La Brea tar pits, protestors can pour out of its hollow belly and attack.

  • baconzgood

    All that stuff is bad but Ken you forgot about the the Tar Monster

    We need the gang from Scooby on top of this.

    • SorosBot

      And so the monster really is – [Velma takes off the Tar Monster's mask] – Stephen Harper!

      • baconzgood

        "I would've gotten away with it too eh if it wasn't for you meddling kids"

  • BlueStateLibel

    That photo – is that the "Italian villa" Dick Cheney was dreaming about?

    • ph7

      Dante's Villa and Spa.

  • Wouldn't it be cleaner to burn Canadians???

    • the_problem_child

      Since were almost as fat as Americans, yes.

  • edgydrifter

    Obama probably has a team working around the clock to figure out if the entire pipeline can be made out of hollowed-out old-growth trees caulked together with baby seal fat.

    • widestanceshakedown

      And cedar cheese. All held aloft by poor drug-test flunkies from Florida.

  • slithytoves

    Well that sounds about right for Obama, working at the last minute on the perception of something rather than its reality.

    Silly Wonkette, esse ist percipi
    At least, that's the rule in business and politics. The rest of us are on our own.

  • Eve8Apples

    Next year, I recommend the Obama family vacation in a tar sands pit. I'm no travel agent, but I'm willing to make the vacation arrangements for free.

  • HelmutNewton

    "Well that sounds about right for Obama, working at the last minute on the perception of something rather than its reality."

    An excellent summation of Hopey's Presidency.

    • pdiddycornchips

      The man came to power on the wings of his adoring angels. He is omnipotent, infallible. When one is infallible, there's never a need for course correction. The problem is our preception. In otherwords, it's our fault. We don't see what he sees.
      We need to be educated so that we may one day see.

    • Keep in mind that “The Obama administration is working overtime to fight the perception …" is how Politico reports what Obama is doing. It's standard media fare to filter Obama's actions though the lens of the political horse-race.

      I'm not defending Obama's action, but I'm not so ready to accept Politico's spin on it.

      • sati_demise

        it is what it is. and this one sucks big time.

  • well, when you run out of cocaine your start doing meth. what else are you going to do – stop doing cocaine? fuck that.

    • BornInATrailer

      Perfect. Tar sand and meth now is what light sweet crude and bountiful coke was to the 80s.

    • widestanceshakedown

      Tar sand adds life, where there isn't any.

      So, freeze.

  • Radiotherapy┬«

    Obama also says he is not going to raise "revenues" on any of the job creators involved in this mother earth fucking.

  • finally, we'll get a little relief at the pump, amiright? five or ten years down the road, sure, and maybe not even then but whatevs. this is literally the only thing i care about. the rest of the world can go to hell and fuck itself when it gets there – I DEMAND RELIEF AT THE PUMP!!! BLAAAARGGHHJH!!!!

    • mog253

      Perhaps a Posti-Vac? Certainly will provide relief at the pump.

  • baconzgood

    Maybe we'll get really lucky and Kansas will catch on fire because of the massive oil spill. C'mon people 'glass is half full' it with me.

  • tribbzthesquidz

    We are the ones we're still waiting for.

  • cuzcorrelation

    I work in the climate research field and the absolute lunacy of this shit blows my mind. I mean, Hopey was at Copenhagen just two years ago lobbying for an international climate deal and now we're on the eve of seeing the dirtiest energy in the history of the planet come online.

    I'm beyond snark. This will add to the weekend fun of binge drinking as Hurricane Irene (no climate change connection of course) bears down on my fair city.

    • sati_demise

      but as long as the perception is nice, amirite- home grown oil, not terrorist oil!

      • the_problem_child

        The terminology you're looking for is the Canadian Conservative Party's "ethical oil" bullshit.

        • Negropolis

          Wait, wait, they actually use that term? Are you serious? "Ethical oil"? They got a terrible PR team working for them. Even down here we've figured that if you put "clean" in the name or remark on "energy independence" you can get some mileage out of it.

  • Guppy06

    Ocean City bans the sale of alcohol and there is a coincidental spike in the number of Layne postings.

    Where exactly is he posting from again?

  • Someone needs to drug test Mr. Layne, I do believe he is becoming one of those "professional leftists".

    Remember Ken, every time you point out one of the ways Obama is screwing us slowly, you make it more likely that the Republicans will screw us quickly. Or something like that.

    Get with the pro-Obama anti-left:

    • Glad to see you're coming around.

      • Hey look, I used to joke, you know, how can he be such a great eleven dimensional chess player if he keeps giving the Republicans everything they want?

        It's when I realized he was playing against us though – the people who actually elected him – that's when his brilliance became apparent. I just couldn't love him until I realized I was the enemy, you know? And I took my drug test, and you know what? Positive. He was right all along. Amazing.

        • How do I say this tactfully…you're making an ass of yourself.

        • Negropolis


    • flamingpdog

      Yeah, death by slow torture is SO much more appealing than a quick Rethuglican bullet to the head.

      • You don't know true self-respect until you're pulling the lever for the false friend who's been hatefucking you for four years, my friend.

        • sati_demise

          Do we all have to acquire this classic Stockholm syndrome?

    • poorgradstudent

      What does "professional left" even mean? Was Jane Hamsher supposed to be paying me for having less than positive opinions about Obama's presidency all this time?

    • ShaveTheWhales

      Geez. That website should be named

      I'm well aware of the need to make the best available choice. I voted for Obama, and I expect to vote for him again. I also believe that he tries to achieve the best available outcome. My criticisms of him really rest on the range of "available".

      But these people, wowzers. Do not offer any criticism, because it will strengthen the bad guys, or something. Sheesh. The bad guys are already too strong.

      • Yeah, their stuff is often not particularly well written, and some of the articles are iffy. So if your aim is to pick just one site to prove that there is something called an "Obamabot" out there, they are a good choice. I believe I posted about 8 links last week when I temporarily bailed on this place (and if Ken is going to keep this shit up, I just may fade away without fanfare anyway), so those who wish can find ways to dismiss them all too.

        • CesarPx

          Christ you tedious fuck, don't hold back. Please fade away now. More Ken, fewer boring, tendentious Obama apologists.

        • CesarPx

          Whatever you do, please don't throw me into the briar patch.

  • GhostBuggy

    The best part of that Politico article quoting Rep. Fred Upton of Michigan bitching that Obama (R-Washington, D.C.) is taking too long on the pipeline deal is that a Canadian oil pipeline break destroyed a river right near his home district.

  • mourningnmerica

    "In one tale, Br'er Fox constructs a doll out of a lump of tar and dresses it with some clothes.When Br'er Rabbit comes along he addresses the tar "baby" amiably, but receives no response. Br'er Rabbit becomes offended by what he perceives as the Tar Baby's lack of manners, punches it, and in doing so becomes stuck. The more Br'er Rabbit punches and kicks the tar "baby" out of rage, the worse he gets stuck."

    So you see, Barry IS INDEED the tar baby, and we who voted for him are Br'er Rabbit. 'Cause it does seem like the guy is a fake, foisted upon progressives as something he clearly is not…

    • You are usually completely predictable, but the race-baiting is a fresh angle for you. Kudos to you, generic avatar!

      • mourningnmerica

        Race baiting. Because I insulted your hero? I was a civil rights activist, pencil dick. And predictable? Predictable? You will be supporting him, no matter what he does. There is nothing he could do to lose you. Sorry I'm not a True Believer, like you. I judge him on his actions. And I, like almost everyone else on this site, am disappointed and fucking pissed. We are judging him, harshly, for his actions.

        I just want to mention that you are the one to start the unpleasantness here. But, man, it is annoying that you are so completely his bitch, no matter what he does or says. Chet, please, try thinking for yourself. I know you see yourself as Apologist in Chief, but really, where is your limit? School vouchers? Fast tracking nuclear plants? Eliminating Pell Grants? Killing Head Start? What would he have to do? How about coming out against Affirmative Action? Anything? Use your fucking head.

        • I'm not quite convinced. You gotta give me another couple of paragraphs. I want to see the blood vessels popping in your words!

          • pdiddycornchips

            My man Chet is a true believer. A chosen one. No amount of evidence will ever be strong enough to convict. Personally, I admire him. The man is a genius. His ability to defend Hopey against any and all comers is legendary. Obama should hire this man as press secretary. The boys at Politico wouldn't know what hit 'em.

          • You see, when you start using phrases like "chosen one", you kind of make people doubt that your critique of the tar baby actually originates from anywhere on the left, gruntled or disgruntled. You should be a lot more careful next time.

          • pdiddycornchips

            "You should be a lot more careful next time."

            Or what? You'll kick off the team?

        • mog253

          Wow, tell us how you really feel. In case you missed the other zillion comments, no one here is acting like a TRUE BELIEVER. We leave that to Bush, et al.

        • sati_demise

          Testify, man. word up

      • sati_demise

        I thought it was a good fable and true. but thats just me and I am colorblind. tar is sticky.

        • Who left the dryer door open?! There are socks flying around all over the fucking place!

    • Negropolis

      Too far. You took what could have been a legitimate criticism of the president, and went somewhere you didn't even have to, and totally fucked up your point with the racial bullshit.

      Stay klassy, though. Ken usually does a great job legitimately criticizing power. All you are is a thoughtless, disingenuous PUMA.

  • DaRooster

    By the time “tar sands” make it to your gas tank and fart out the tailpipe into the sky, forever, this form of oil has produced 45% more greenhouse gases than the conventional stuff.

    C'mon… it won't be forever… maybe another 15 years.

  • *sigh.* Got any good Dear Shit-Fer-Brains entries to share, Ken? I need to feel smarter than something now, or whatever the opposite of foolish-and-helpless-in-the-U.S.ofA. feels like.

  • DashboardBuddha

    This pipeline is just part of a larger slippery slope.

  • OneDollarJuana

    BHO is going to pragmatize us into destruction.

    • mourningnmerica


  • FakaktaSouth

    In this time of constant constant constant anti-regulation anti-give a shit about your health pro-everybody's getting cancer and catching their faucet water on fire while unregulated oil wells continue to this day to poison the gulf…ANYway – do we really need a big ol unregulated (cause we hate those regulations!) sludge chute buried in with our groundwater straight down the middle of the country?

    • Beowoof

      Sure, we haven't made the country totally unlivable yet.

    • flamingpdog

      I dunno, I think God would approve. After all, he made us all with our very own big ol unregulated sludge chute buried in the middle of our own personal recreation area.

    • fuflans

      well, it could double as a conveyor belt / people mover for our obesity epidemic.

    • mog253

      I'm thinking that Crystal Lite will cover the taste. Or not.

      • Gonna have to boost it up to Crystal Meth prolly.

  • jus_wonderin

    Can't we just pour some Dawn on the stuff? It works on waterfoul.

    • OneDollarJuana

      And hair. Don't forget hair.

      • jus_wonderin

        Christine??? Is that you?

        • OneDollarJuana
          • jus_wonderin

            Oh, now I get it. We could use Rick Perry then too!!

    • genxr

      Surely there's some highly toxic carcinogen that would work better.

    • mog253

      Leave my neighbor out of this.

  • Papa_Uniform

    Anyone else remember that night in the park in Chicago? Didn't think so.

    • fuflans

      i remember there was no booze.

    • mourningnmerica

      Yeah, where is THAT guy?

  • Pragmatist2

    Are tar sands here tar babies come from?

    • OneDollarJuana

      Certainly seems to have something to do with tarheels, since they support this kind of development.

    • An_Outhouse

      No. Its where they play.

  • flamingpdog

    dissing green groups?

    The only "green" groups Obama is truly interested in is Greenspan groups.

  • keepem_sikanpor

    "…before the petroleum is ever burned…"
    Lube! Somehow that isn't providing me much comfort.

  • jus_wonderin

    My farm sits on Ngas. Let's move to Ngas. Baby needs a new pair of shoes!!

  • iburl

    Obama, the final nail in the heart of common sense.

  • DahBoner

    Invest in the past, because the past is over, so you know it's a sure thing..

    • flamingpdog

      But we can't look back at the past. Might see things we'd rather not deal with, like torture, and theft of our Constituional rights, and theft of the nation's wealth.

      • jus_wonderin

        See, this is why we should take more photos. That way, we can crack open the family album and remember fondly the torture and theft.

        Print those digital picture folks!!!!!

  • fuflans

    it's weird. in that picture of the tar sands protesters there was no scooter and everyone looked to be mildly fit.

  • BornInATrailer

    Well this fuel is pragmatic, it's traumatic, it's problematic
    Why it's sand lightnin'!

    We'll bulldoze old growth forests and any topsoil, oh yeah
    Keep minin'', whoah strip minin'
    Fuel rejection? Come on, people gotta drive, oh yeah
    I'll make some money, You'll see I make some money

    OK you'll be happy to know that is all I can muster.

  • An_Outhouse

    Has Obama even commented on this? or is this all Hitlery's doing?

  • It’s as if the BP Gulf of Mexico disaster wasn’t an accident, but an integral part of the plan

    It is part of the plan. Once we get used to oil soaked pelicans and fishermen, having a few tons of semi-liquid, highly toxic sludge leak into the water table of Montana will be no big deal.

  • sati_demise

    Big oil gets the big sludge pipe and still industrial hemp is illegal.

    At least throw us a bone, one small harmless plant for cultivation.

    • And risk reefer madness overtaking the country? Nevar.

  • ttommyunger

    Money comes in, morals go out; never a miscommunication.

    Republican Barack Obama Says Filthy Tar Sands Pipeline Is Great

    Lemme see if I've got this right – bureaucrats in the State Department (not necessarily political appointees, but career bureaucrats) issue a report, but no decision has been made or is expected for a few more weeks, Obama to my knowledge has not made any statement about this issue either publicly or privately, he hasn't even been at the WH so we have no idea if anyone's even told him about these protests, members of Congress seem to be actually lobbying the administration official who does make the decision to say no, we're relying on POLITICO for analysis, for fuck's sake (when at one time links to that rag weren't even allowed here)…..and we're still going to expend our energy lobbing cheap shots at the president in every writable field in the WordPress content manager starting with the title of the post and continuing on for 100+ comments?

    Yep, sounds like par for the course from Layne these days. I'm starting to think he's either actually a Koch plant or owns stock in a company that makes blood pressure medication.

    • Papa_Uniform

      Hey imiss, wouldn't care to take a bet on which way Barry is going to come down on this would ya? I'll give ya odds. Gotta warn ya though, I haven't lost yet.

      • My complaint is with the cheap shots and the defeatism, particularly because there is still more than enough time for people to make their voices heard directly to the WH and Congress and the State Department, instead of sitting on this blog griping to each other. You want to make a bet? I bet you could send out a petition opposed to this pipeline today and have ten thousand signatures by the end of next week. Or you can sit here and bathe in Layne's whining. Your call.

    • ShaveTheWhales

      "… the State Department has taken a further step towards approving the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline, issuing its final environmental impact report."

      It doesn't matter if those on the sig block are "bureaucrats" or "politicals", it's still a final EIR. Do you seriously think this would be issued if the "politicals" opposed it? Really? Really?

      Po'o, however crappy it is, doesn't affect this reporting of an event. And Obama's current presence or absence is irrelevant — opposition to this has existed for bloody years.

      • Do you seriously think this would be issued if the "politicals" opposed it?

        As a matter of fact, I do. Shit gets released/leaked in D.C. all the time in order to move public opinion one way or the other. If the consensus among some upper level bureaucrats or political people is that this pipeline should in fact be built and they want to pressure Obama or Hillary or whomever to give final approval, why not release the final EIR now to make the public think it's a foregone conclusion so they'll give up protesting it? Look at this crew here, automatically assuming it's a done deal the minute the EIR comes out and wasting no time in trotting out the same tired Obama bashing.

        Did anyone read to page 2 in that Politico article, where the reporters mentioned that other federal agencies still have to weigh in, particularly the EPA, which as recently as June was criticizing State's two earlier impact statements and has greatly increased regulatory power under Obama, and a louder voice in this administration then in the last one? Is anyone around here aware that there is now a 90-day comment period for the EPA and other federal agencies and the public to weigh in, and in particular there are supposed to be public meetings in all six states through which the pipeline would pass, meetings that presumably the public can attend and hold protests? Or was everyone too busy assuming they'd been fucked again, it's a done deal, and amping up their outrage accordingly?

        As I said above, my problem here is with the cheap shots and the defeatism. Shit, I thought invading Iraq was a done deal at least six months before it happened if not longer, but that didn't stop me from going to protest marches to express my outrage.

        Obama's current presence or absence is irrelevant

        No, it isn't. We had this conversation on another thread last week: the last two weeks in August are generally the worst time to try and publicize anything in D.C. The president is on vacation, Congress is on recess, which means that half the political press is probably gone as well. So a protest in front of the White House is less likely to get coverage. Hell, why do you think State released this thing at the end of the day on a Friday in August anyway? It wasn't because they were hoping it would get publicized, that's for goddamn sure.

        I don't know if the protesters knew when the EIR was being released, but if not this is actually a potentially huge break in their favor. If the protests hadn't been going on right now, this thing would have come out and it's unlikely the general public would have noticed. But now the protesters have something solid to connect to the images of themselves being handcuffed in front of the WH. If the environmental groups have good PR people they'll see the opportunity and play this up for all it's fucking worth. Shoot, I hadn't seen anything about the protests all week, what with the earthquake and the hurricane, but now stories about it are popping up in mainstream outlets like the NYT.

        And Obama, as he has said himself, is in a bubble anyway with all the people he has competing for his attention. So why not protest when he's in town and can hear the chanting through an open window, or see the protesters by the gate when he's walking Bo on the South Lawn? You think you can break through the bubble from D.C. when he's book-shopping with his kids on the Vineyard?

        Plus, whether the opposition to this has been around for years, nothing in D.C. gets done until the last minute, as we've seen over and over and over again. You can't keep the general public's attention on a pipeline for years and years, but you can (if you're smart and media savvy) get people to focus on it for a few weeks, a couple of months, and put pressure on the decision-makers.

        In other words, this is far from the end of this. There are still plenty of ways for environmental groups to lobby against the project. For people who are only now becoming aware of it, it's the beginning.

        Or you can sit here on Wonkette and read nihilistic headlines like "Fuck This Guy" and grumble under your breath until you get pissed off enough to punch your computer monitor. At which point the pipeline will still get built PLUS you'll need to buy a new monitor. So good luck with that.

    • sati_demise

      We know how this works. Some administration 'officical or Hillary 'floats' an 'idea' you know, just a suggestion in order to prepare us lefty hippies for the ass fucking we are going to get. This is just the lubing up of the enviros so they burn off the worst of the steam when Obama finally comes out in favor of big sludge.

  • henrypuppyhead

    Obviously trying to compete with Michelle Bachman's two dollar a gallon gas special.

  • It's simple: we're going to primary Obama from the left. Then we're going to sit back and watch our longed-for liberal paradise materialize out of thin air. I defy you to find the flaw in this plan.

    • Limeylizzie

      OK, so it will be me, imissopus and Chet standing firm for Barry and as I can't vote that sounds like a shoe-in for Rick Perry, well done!

      • Papa_Uniform

        Snark off. That "shoe-in" will be Obama's size 12 right up the ass. Don't put this on Ken, he's just the messenger, and don't put it on those who criticize Obama for doing the exact opposite of what he claimed to stand for when he was trying to get our votes. "Standing firm for Barry" doesn't mean making excuses for him when he sells us down the Republican river. If you want to get him re-elected remind him of what got him elected in the first place.

        • "Fuck this guy" is a really great reminder. I'm sure it will change his policies AND win crucial votes!

          • Papa_Uniform

            Prolly not, but if might get his attention. Nothing else seems to have.

  • karen

    I may be taking George Carlin's advice in 2012, don't vote. Fuck 'em, fuck 'em. This country was bought, sold and paid for a long time ago. The shit they shuffle around every four years? Doesn't mean a fuckin' thing.

    • ShaveTheWhales

      No, no, no. Really. The demise of America will be greatly accelerated with another Repofucklican SCOTUS-filling majority. I'm sorry, but you have to vote for the lesser evil until there is a legitimate alternative.

    • The lesser evil is at this point is no longer a euphemism. It's just evil. You have to subsidize and endorse evil to some degree, no matter what, and that sucks. It's either be evil, or get out. This is the choice we're left with?

      Sorry, just think of some funny joke someone told you at some point. I got nothing.

  • Negropolis

    You know, sometimes Ken can be hyperbolic about stuff, but tar sands is not one them. They are incredibly energy and water intensive, not even to mention again the sheer amount of physical land they take up. The energy/oil-per-acre ratio must be tiny. It's utterly insane.

    I've seen aerials and pictures of the tar sands in the Canadian prairies, and it actually looks like something straight out of Star Wars or some dystopian novel. It's the most terrific thing I've ever seen, and by terrific I mean literally inspiring terrible awe. I can't snark about tar sands. It's like montaintop remval without the mountains.

  • Warpde

    Guess it wouldn't be a good time to mention that I'm Canadian. Eh?

  • crybabyboehner

    Ken you better cool it right now, or no inauguration tickets for you!

  • I'm plenty disappointed at a lot stuff Hopey has done, and I respect the anger of my friends here on teh wonkette, but there is an attitude here of late that anyone who doesnt TOTALLY hate obez, and can point to some good he has done, or the extraordinary challenges he faces, is somehow stupid, which, frankly, I resent. We're better than this, people.

  • mysteryalizerex

    Oboma has NOT brought CHANGE, In fact ~~ THE ONLY real THING needing CHANGE !

    Was Barack Hussein Obama II.

    Barack Hussein Obama II ( Who hates American Values )

    Who who is A " SELF PROCLAIMED Enemy " ~ of responsible, Morally Conscious HARD WORKING Americans.

    oBOMAS supporters KNOW~ that Barack Hussein Obama II, WILL FORCE YOU to paY THEM, out of your PockeT ….

    This UN~CHANGABLE fraud, has done His VERY BEST to Inspire VIOLENCE.

    THESE ARE OBAMAS OWN WORDS.. saying “Bring it on” To his supporters.

    Oboma ~ Demands Saying “Get ready for hand-to-hand combat with your fellow Americans”

    – Obama has ALSO DECLARED to his Supporters

    “I want all Americans to get in each others faces!–

    Obama demands !

    “You bring a knife to a fight pal, we’ll bring a gun” – Obama Cant wait to get everybody involved in some kind OF CONFRONTATION of some



    Obama has ALSO DECLARED "Republicans are our enemies"-

    ** Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”

    ANGER VIOLENCE and more taxes….. THIS IS OBAMAS Change for america

    /“Hit Back Twice As Hard”. He commands !


    *Obama on the private sector: ~~ “We talk to these folks…~ / so I know whose a*$ to KICK.“
    OBOMA wants to KICK your a*$ /

    Shouting THAT Republican victory would mean ~ “hand to hand combat”

    HE IS EXPECTING people to kill & BE VIOLENT / for their immoral CAUSES

    * Obama Tells democrats: “ I’m itching for a fight.” !

    PLEASE go to reXes NEW WebsiTe ~ ! Oboma *( Just like Adolf Hitler~~ In that oBOMA~~~ Demands ! — [

    THE FINAL SOLUTION – For Un~Wanted Children

    Barak Obama A MURDERER .~Torturing UNWANTED babys on DEATH ROE

    OBAMA supports TAKING a little NEW BORN innocent child.. / BORN. ALIVE ~

    sTabing it iN the head & SUCKs ITS BRAINS OUT.

    He also demands, that a Child SURVIVING a FAILED ABORTION, Has no RIGHT to Life or medical care.

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